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September 12, 2017
Asheville City Council Meeting
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A
And
I
also
wanted
to
thank
all
of
the
folks
in
our
city
today,
who
have
been
working
so
hard
to
clean
up
after
the
storm
and
get
the
streets
cleared
and
the
trees
moved
off
the
streets
and
clean
up
all
the
debris
and
get
the
power
back
on
and
my
house
hopefully
some
time
before.
I
get
home
tonight.
But.
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Despite
the
many
risks
and
personal
sacrifices,
they
encounter
continue
to
be
inspirations
to
their
families,
employees
and
the
community
and
the
community
and
whose
success
stories
we
can
learn
to
emulate.
And
whereas,
when
Hispanics
succeed,
our
nation,
our
state,
our
region
and
our
city
succeeds
and
their
potential
should
only
be
limited,
only
regret
their
dreams
by
the
breadth
of
their
dreams.
D
Once
again,
thank
you
very
much
for
having
me
here.
It
is
an
honor
for
me
to
represent
my
community.
I
am
very
excited.
I
do
believe
that
I
have
never
seen
this
happen
before
in
Asheville.
Perhaps
it
happened
last
year.
I
heard,
but
I
was
known
here
so
to
be
here
means
a
lot,
especially
at
this
moment
in
the
nation,
where
all
the
things
I
have
happening
that
happen.
So
in
the
name
of
my
community.
Thank
you
one
day
hope
now,
one
scientist
or
Lopez
is
there
with
you.
Thank
you.
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Item
item
D
is
about
changing
the
speed
limit
to
25
miles
per
hour,
and
there
are
I
didn't
count
them
up,
but
an
awful
lot
of
streets
and
I
was
curious.
How
many
streets
in
Nashville
are
now
25
or
less
and
what
the
effect
would
be.
If
we
made
25
miles
an
hour,
the
de-facto
speed
limit
and
higher
than
25
would
be
a
an
exception.
H
Good
evening,
I'm,
Jeff,
Moore
city
traffic,
engineer
I'll
be
glad
to
talk
about
that.
A
little
bit.
I
can't
give
you
an
exact
number
right
off
the
top
of
my
head.
How
many
streets
are
twenty
five
that
is
pretty
much
our
standard
residential
speed
limit
that
if
there's
an
issue,
if
it's
brought
to
our
attention,
we
do
this
study
and
that's
pretty
much
what
it
ends
up
being
for
residential
street
to
make
a
citywide
standard.
H
You
know
the
appropriate
speed
limit
to
ask
for
I,
don't
believe
that
there
would
be
way
for
us
to
legally
say
25
is
the
the
citywide
standard
official
as
in
the
statutory
speed
limit
that
the
state
has
for
a
speed
limit
inside
the
city
limits
and
that's
35,
so
for
us
to
do
that,
I,
don't
believe,
there's
a
legal
way
without
an
engineering
study
for
each
individual
Road.
You
know
it's
my
goal
to
hit
each
and
individual
Road
and
do
that
now.
H
If
we
go
into
a
study
and
find
that
the
speeds
are
actually
lower
than
that
people
are
traveling,
say
20
miles
per
hour,
I've
actually
got
some
out
there,
where
the
speed
limit
or
the
speeds
are
being
traveler
80
miles
per
hour.
Setting
a
speed
limit,
that's
higher
than
that.
As
the
ordinance
sign
speed
limit,
it
may
have
unintended
unwelcome
consequences.
So
I'll
be
glad
to
get
you
an
answer
as
far
as
how
many
streets
are,
how
many
miles
of
streets
have
the
25
or
lower
very
few
have
30.
That
number
is
shrinking
even
tonight.
H
If
you
all
concur,
it
will
shrink
even
further.
There
are
streets
where
they've
been
30
miles
per
hour
for
years,
but
it's
changed.
The
characteristic
of
that
Street
has
changed
more
pedestrians,
more
transit
or
circumstances
that
indicate
a
lower
speed
limit
so
over
time.
I
expect
that
to
shrink
even
more
yes,.
H
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They
like
to
do,
and
if
they
have
the
opportunity,
has
come
to
a
city
with
a
demonstration
of
their
past
successes
as
qualifications.
First,
because
for
them
to
take
the
time
to
actually
make
a
serious
design,
is
his
time
invested
that
they
don't
really
want
to
do
if
they
don't
think
they
have
a
good
shot
at
getting
the
job?
G
So
what
we're
doing
by
calling
it
a
request
for
qualifications
that
we're
limiting
the
number
of
designers
who
might
forward
with
ideas,
and
it
seems
since
we
don't
have
a
budget
for
it
at
all
at
the
present
time,
I,
don't
understand
why
we'd
want
to
limit
the
input
at
the
front
end
when
we
might
get
more
ideas
presented
if
we
opened
it
up.
So
what
I'm
saying
is
I
think
we
want
qualifications,
not
proposals,
and
yet
the
language
of
this
says
we're
asking
for
them
to
bring
designs
to
us.
G
M
M
The
intent
of
that
was
to
provide
some
general
scope
of
services
to
provide
a
framework
to
give
the
potential
designers
or
consultant
teams
some
idea
of
what
we
were
looking
for,
but
the
three
design
options
is
not
what
we're
asking
for
as
part
of
the
qualification
process,
the
RFQ
process,
but
but
rather
after
a
consultant
or
designer
was
selected.
Those
are
some
of
the
expectations
of
that
design.
Team
is,
you
know,
for
we
would
hire
that
designer.
G
Okay
I
mean
again
that
my
my
reading
of
it
says
it
says
we're
asking
them
for
one
two:
three
or
up
to
three
designs:
how
does
a
company
the
white
want
to
participate
reap
that?
Are
they
reading?
That
is
show
us
what
you've
done
in
the
past
or
are
they
reading
that
as
we
got
to
show
you
designs,
I?
Think.
M
The
the
way
we
tried
to
structure
the
RFQ
is
to
provide
what
staff
thought
was
the
would
be
the
scope
of
services,
but
but
again
after
that,
designer
or
design
team
is
selected,
but
we
do
have
a
separate
section
of
the
RFQ
that
does
provide
the
actual
simpson
middle
requirements
and
the
submitter
requirements.
We
are
only
looking
for
early
that
the
qualifications
that
that
you
referred
to
and
not
not
any
design
options
as
part
of
a
proposal
at
this
time.
M
G
L
Could
we
could
I
think
it's
a
valid
point,
I
appreciate
you
bringing
up
full
council,
as
you
did
with
me,
we
can
look
very
carefully
at
the
wording
to
make
sure
it's
absolutely
clear
that
we're
not
asking
for
the
three
proposed
three
design
options
to
be
submitted
with
their
qualifications
up
front.
Okay,.
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C
That's
just
a
proposal,
but
this
is
a
with
qualifications
for
design
services.
That's
my
understanding
from
from
Todd
and
Alan,
and
that's
why
this
is
the
process
you
have
to
follow.
So
it
should
read
like
that.
As
an
RFQ,
we
can
maybe
tighten
up
the
language,
but
any
designers
should
be
familiar
with
that
statutory
process.
Okay,.
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All
right
mass
exodus,
after
the
finishing
of
the
consent
agenda,
we
have
no
presentations
and
reports.
We
have
a
few
public
hearings.
The
first
one
is
a
continuation
of
the
public
hearing
to
consider
the
kiss
conditional
zoning.
A
property
located
on
triad
tried
street
from
RSA
that
residential
single-family
high-density
district
to
rs8
cz
residential
single-family,
high-density
district
conditional
zoning
for
the
development
of
a
single-family
residential
project
and
jessica
is
here
to
refresh
our
memory
about
this
I
think
we
got
hung
up
on
open
space
last
time,
hello.
O
Thank
You
mayor
councilmembers,
members
of
the
public,
so
just
to
refresh
your
memory.
You
all
discuss
this
at
your
meeting
on
the
22nd
of
last
month.
Its
this
is
the
site.
That's
currently
zoned
rs8.
They
are
requesting
to
conditionally
rezone
it
to
RS
8
CZ,
because
the
proposal
really
closely
mirrors
a
single-family
subdivision
it's
to
the
construction
of
the
new
road
and
20
homes
sites.
O
The
conditions
that
went
along
with
this
proposal
widely
applicant
was
required
to
through
this
process
is
because
some
of
those
Lots
had
a
lot
with
that
at
the
time
of
application
was
less
than
the
rs8
standards.
Now
you
all
passed
that
amendment
so,
but
but
but
the
time
that
they
that
this
application
came
in
the
minimum
lot
width
is
40
feet.
Also
some
of
the
Lots
have
a
minimum
area
of
40,000
square
feet.
O
So
that
is
really
the
crux
of
the
conditional
zoning
and
then
was
the
open
space,
and
so,
as
the
applicant
explained
that
when
we
met
the
last
time
they
were
really
trying
to
avoid
the
creation
of
a
homeowner's
association.
When
we
have
the
requirements
for
open
space
in
these
residential
developments
and
typically
they
would
be
handled
by
a
homeowners
association,
they
were
trying
to
avoid
that
so
that
there
wouldn't
be
that
additional
cost
burden
to
the
homeowners.
O
But
it
really
seemed
like
it
was
difficult
to
avoid
that
they
were
trying
to
propose
alternatives
where
the
open
space
could
be
met
in
terms
of
area.
There
would
be
that
compliant
amount
of
space
that
would
not
be
developed,
but
it
wouldn't
be
physically
accessible
to
folks,
because
it
would
be
placed
on
individual
Lots
or
to
continue
working
with
the
neighborhood
association
to
be
able
to
come
to
an
agreement
where
the
neighborhood
would
be
able
to
take
over
the
management
of
that
space,
and
it
would
be
a
separate
lot.
O
The
direction
from
Council
was
to
come
back
with
just
a
proposal
and
not
have
those
alternatives,
kind
of
hanging
out
there.
So
the
applicant
has
has
revised
their
requests
to
create
that
that
21st
home
lot-
and
this
was
one
of
the
alternatives
that
we
showed
the
last
time
so
there's
the
20
parcels
that
would
be
for
single
family
home
development
and
then
that
21st
lot.
O
That
is
not
for
development,
it's
just
for
the
open
space,
so
they
will
then
have
to
create
a
homeowners
association
that
would
manage
that
they
are
still
talking
with
the
Neighborhood
Association
and
so
there's
the
possibility
that
that
could
happen.
They
could
take
over
that
management
and
and
maintenance
of
that
parcel,
but
there's
no
condition
any
longer
to
restrict
access
to
the
parcel.
There's,
no
condition
that
the
open
space
would
be
handled
on
individual
home
Lots.
It
is
compliant
with
what
the
you
do
requires.
B
F
O
It's
a
residential
subdivision.
The
you
do
does
stipulate
that
it
has
to
be
publicly
I.
Don't
have
the
words
the
wording
right
in
front
of
me.
It
I
don't
believe
that
it
means
that
everyone
in
the
public
has
to
be
able
to
go
into
it,
because
there
would
be
a
homeowner's
association
that
that
group
could
restrict
that
that
access
would
just
be
for
the
folks
in
there
that
live
there
and
their
guests.
It
doesn't
it.
We
don't
say
in
the
in
do
that
it
has
to
be
for
anyone
to
go
into
okay,
I,
just.
P
I'm
here
good
evening,
Mike
Vance
with
mountain
housing
opportunities,
so
this
development
in
front
of
you,
I
just
wanted
to
mention,
is
part
of
a
growing
homeownership
program
for
Mountain
housing
opportunities.
I
talked
to
quite
a
few
of
you
over
the
last
couple
weeks,
and
maybe
you
weren't
clear
that
this
is
a
big
push
that
we
are
moving
forward
with,
and
it
is
in
addition
to
20
downpayment
assistance
loans
that
we're
going
to
provide
this
year.
We
will
begin
construction
on
23
new
single-family
homes.
P
P
Last
year,
the
average
household
income
of
the
44,
low-income
homebuyers,
that
we
helped
to
build
was
thirty
thousand
four
hundred
twenty
four
thousand
so
just
below
31,000.
The
annual
and
average
annual
income
of
the
folks
that
we
serve.
This
is
what
we
do
and
and
we're
good
at
it.
We'd
like
to
do
more
of
it.
Buildable
Lots
in
the
city
with
water
and
sewer
are
now
priced
well
above
550
thousand,
so
we
often
develop
the
Lots
that
we
build
on.
Mostly.
These
are
minor
subdivisions,
however,
to
increase
our
production
to
30
homes
per
year.
P
We
need
more
land
in
larger
subdivisions.
Allow
more
homes,
we've
just
completed
a
46
lot
subdivision
in
Weaverville
and
tried
Street.
This
development
in
front
of
you
is
our
first
major
subdivision
for
seeing
family
homeownership
in
the
city
of
Asheville,
so
the
proposed
development
of
20
homes
at
just
about
five
units,
an
acre.
What
we're
asking
for
is
Jessica
mentioned
is
just
that
minimum
lot
size
of
4,000
square
feet,
we're
not
asking
for
an
increase
in
density
from
that
rs8
zoning.
P
Mho
prefers
mixed
income
approach
in
housing
development.
It
creates
stronger,
neighborhoods
market
rate
homes
also
help
to
support
those
that
are
affordable
in
a
development
like
tried
street.
We
don't
have
all
the
funding
to
make
all
twenty
homes
affordable,
but
the
the
site
is
suitable
for
the
20
homes
so
offering
some
homes
to
higher
income.
Households
Ritu
helps
us
reduce
land
costs
by
spreading
it
across
more
homes.
We
fully
expect
that
more
than
half
of
all
homes
at
Ryde
street
will
be
sold
affordably,
but
at
this
time
we're
only
committing
to
the
20%.
N
A
F
The
proposal
supports
the
strategies
found
in
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
on
infill,
residential
development
and
affordability
to
the
design,
provides
sidewalks
and
dedicates
open
space
and
three
the
development
is
compatible
to
the
character
of
the
neighborhood.
As
indicated
in
the
shiloh
community
plan.
Thanks.
I
Vice
mayor
Whistler
for
that
motion
and
I
a
couple
of
comments,
thanks
MHO
for
moving
in
this
direction
and
your
continued
commitment
and
partnership-
it's
we
couldn't
couldn't
do
without
you,
there's
so
many
folks
who
need
the
what
you're
doing
and
you
do
it
with
such
a
vehemence
and
dedication.
That
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
appreciate
that
I
also
want
to
see
if
there
would
be
interest
on
council
in
visiting
flexibility
in
open
space.
I
I
think
that
myself
I'd
like
to
make
sure
I'd
like
a
zero
net,
canopy
loss
and
any
sort
of
thing,
but
as
far
as
open
space
itself
as
space
becomes
more
and
more
of
a
premium
in
the
city
of
Asheville.
If
we
do
have
builders
who
are
willing
to
come
forward
with
affordable
housing,
I
would
love
for
them
to
have
some
flexibility
in
the
open
space
requirements.
If
y'all
are
open
to
it,
we
can
move
that
onto
an
HDD
agenda
in
the
near
future.
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I
Q
Thank
You
mayor
members
of
council.
This
wording,
amendment
to
the
unified
development
ordinance,
seeks
to
do
two
things.
The
first
thing
is
to
move
the
temporary
parking
lot
standards
from
article
16
to
article
14,
where
it
is
a
use
by
right
to
our
temporary
uses
section,
which
is
an
article
14.
It
also
proposes
to
add
standards
that
would
allow
temporary
gravel
parking
lots
in
our
central
business.
Q
District
gravel
today
is
not
permitted
in
the
central
business
district,
and
the
reason
for
this
is
rooted
primarily
in
the
need
for
tighter
site
control
that
addresses
a
heightened
need
for
a
walkable,
accessible
pedestrian
friendly
environment
and
for
environmental
and
safety
concerns.
Wear
loose,
gravel
can
wash
off
the
site
into
the
road
and
then
eventually
down
into
the
storm
system.
Q
If
approved,
the
amendment
would
only
apply
to
properties
that
are
less
than
5%
in
grade
and
would
also
and
would
allow
unimproved
gravel
Lots
to
be
permitted
for
one
year
with
the
option
to
renew
for
a
second
year.
The
Lots
would
also
require
a
driveway
apron
and
other
measures
to
keep
the
gravel
on
site
and
some
minor
landscaping
that
would
help
break
up
large
surface
Lots.
Q
Q
This
amendment
has
been
reviewed
by
both
the
downtown
Commission,
where
it
was
approved
six-zero
and
by
the
planning
zoning
commission,
where
it
was
supported
5-2
in
both
reviews.
It
was
discussed
and
generally
acknowledged
that
this
amendment
does
not
fully
address
the
parking
concerns
and
that
it
may
be
in
conflict
with
other
goals
and
could
potentially
introduce
an
enforcement
challenge.
However,
it
is
a
temporary
measure
and
it
was
felt
that
the
benefits
generally
outweighed
the
detriments,
so
it
was
supported
by
both
of
those
advisory
bodies.
That
essentially
concludes
my
introduction.
A
A
K
K
K
K
Have
friends
who
don't
live,
downtown
and
I'm
constantly
hearing
from
them
that
they
don't
wish
to
drive
downtown?
They
don't
wish
to
try
to
drive
and
try
to
find
a
place
to
park,
and
it's
it's.
It's
a
constant
problem.
I
have
parking
behind
where
I
live
on
Biltmore
and
frequently
I'll
go
to
park
in
our
assigned
parking
lot
and
again
find
people
who
have
decided
an
illegally
parked
there,
because.
B
R
Hello,
thank
you
for
listening
to
me
today,
not
a
great
public
speaker,
so
this
was
difficult.
I
work
with
Mass
General,
Store
and
I'm
lucky
to
work
for
a
company
that
does
provide
or
tries
to
provide
parking
for
all
of
the
staff.
We're
up
to
probably
50
employees
now
and
mass
does
an
incredible
job
of
benefits
for
our
staff
and
employee
owned
company,
but
parking
for
downtown
is
becoming
so
difficult.
I'll
dress,
first,
the
needs
of
my
store.
R
If
the
staff
cannot
get
to
work,
we
can't
fill
the
needs
that
we
have
to
for
the
business
and
I
believe
we
provide
a
good
store
and
a
good
entertainment
for
visitors
that
come
to
our
town,
but
staff
parking
has
become
almost
impossible.
I
have
pieced
together
different
places.
All
within
like
three-quarters
of
a
mile.
That's
five
people
are
parking
in
one
lot.
R
Six
people
are
parking
in
another,
a
lot
there's
a
few
more
in
another
lot
and
then
there
that
I
have
to
release
them
in
the
timely
fashion
that
they
can
get
to
their
spaces
together.
So
what
he
wants
to
walk
alone
at
night,
they're
forced
to
drive
without
public
transportation
that
will
accommodate
the
hours
that
the
store
is
open.
R
So
I
am
very
much
for
you
know
benefit
of
these
gravel
Lots
that
folks
can
afford
to
rent
by
the
month,
and
we
can
of
court
to
give
parking
to
our
staff
by
the
month
and
this
one
year
with
another
year.
Extension
I
think
is
definitely
a
hope,
but
I
I
mean
my
concern.
Is
that
I've
got
two
years
that
there's
some
other
solution,
because
if
employee
and
workforce
can't
get
downtown,
they
can't
live
downtown,
they
can't
drive
into
town
and
find
a
place
to
park.
R
This
is
going
to
be
even
a
greater
problem
in
two
years,
because
it
appears
that
our
town
is
growing
in
a
wonderful
way
without
taking
too
much
more
time.
Of
course,
my
friends
and
family
can't
come
to
downtown
either
because
of
parking.
We
I
deal
with
customers
every
day
that
are
where
do
I
park.
They
even
call
and
say
where
can
I
park
if
I
want
to
come
to
your
door,
it's
tough
I,
don't
know
what
to
tell
them.
R
We
had
a
young
lady
apply
for
a
job,
I
come
in
for
an
interview
and
she
had
to
pay.
It
was
during
an
event
she
had
to
pay
$13
to
park
in
order
to
come
in
and
have
an
interview
for
a
job
that
she's
just
trying
to
find
employment,
and
then
her
first
question
was:
do
you
provide
parking
because
she
couldn't
work
with
us
if
we
didn't
so
I
respectfully
request
that
we
do
find
a
temporary
solution?
R
B
S
I'm
Adam
tone
and
my
wife,
Emily
and
I
own
and
operate
67
Biltmore,
downtown
eatery
and
catering
I've
been
in
business
for
a
little
over
two
years,
and
before
that
we
manage
Laurie's
catering
for
15
years
or
so
so.
We've
been
on
that
block
for
nearly
two
decades,
and
you
know
we
have
watched
the
city
change
quite
a
bit
over
the
years.
I
think
we
all
agree
that
it's
the
small
independent
businesses
that,
with
our
what
make
downtown
special
and
unique
there's
a
lot
of
people
depending
on
these
businesses.
S
Collectively
we
employ
a
lot
of
people.
We
support
a
lot
of
vendors
farmers,
suppliers
we're
all
providing
goods
and
services
to
each
other
and
we're
part
of
a
much
larger
network
which
in
turn,
benefits
the
city.
When
you
look
at
all
of
these
small
independent
businesses
and
all
of
the
companies
that
they
work
with
and
support,
we're
responsible
for
a
great
deal
of
revenue
and
a
great
deal
of
jobs
here
in
Asheville,
being
a
small
business
owner
is
tough.
It
takes
a
lot
of
courage,
hard
work,
there's
a
lot
of
ups
and
downs.
S
The
margins,
particularly
in
our
industry,
are
very
slim,
and
the
cost
of
doing
business,
especially
downtown,
continues
to
rise
in.
In
order
for
us
to
succeed.
All
of
us
collectively,
we
need
the
support
of
the
city
for
this
parking
issue,
parking
effects
to
the
most
important
pieces
to
our
small
business
puzzle,
our
customers
and
our
employees.
S
S
U
We
have
a
lot
of
customers
who
tell
me
in
the
grocery
store
well,
I
tried
to
come
to
your
store,
but
I
circled
around
circle
direct
and
find
a
parking
space,
and
unless
you
come
downtown
before
8
a.m.
you
won't
have
a
parking
space
on
anywhere
near
my
stores
period.
The
parking
situation
is
darker
for
small
businesses
that
are
downtown
I've,
been
watching
this
for
many
years,
and
I
haven't
seen
a
great
improvement
on
the
city
in
making
sure
that
the
unique
favor
of
down
of
Asheville
is
protected
by
you
all.
U
E
E
My
name
is
Karen
Ramshaw
I've
been
a
resident
of
Asheville
since
1967
and
I
work
for
Public
Interest
projects
and
downtown
Asheville
has
a
parking
crisis.
We
do
not
have
a
parking
problem.
We
have
a
parking
crisis.
The
city
had
a
parking
study
done
in
February
of
this
year
and
they
looked
at
58
cities
and
towns.
So
we
extracted
the
data
for
the
cities
that
seem
more
equivalent
and
relevant
to
our
situation.
Can.
E
E
So
each
of
the
cars
in
the
graph
on
the
Left
represent
a
thousand
vehicles
and
then
on
the
right.
Those
are
affect.
Each
car
is
a
thousand
parking
spaces.
So,
as
you
can
see,
Asheville
is
quite
popular
with
more
visitors
than
Greenville,
Spartanburg
or
Charleston,
but
our
city
provides
far
fewer
spaces.
Charleston
provides
almost
nine
thousand
Greenville
has
6226.
Spartanburg
is
ready
for
growth
with
3559
and
Asheville
has
two
thousand
two
hundred
and
ninety
nine.
So
in
Charleston,
Greenville
is
Harbor.
E
They're
about
two
vehicles
competing
for
each
city
provided
space
and
in
Asheville
it's
almost
eight
now
I
recognize
the
city
doesn't
provide
all
the
parking
for
a
community,
not
in
Asheville
and
not
in
any
of
the
other
cities
listed
here.
Many
large
businesses
and
organizations
provide
parking
for
their
end
users,
but
cities
do
provide
parking
for
visitors,
employees
at
the
small
local
downtown
businesses
and
for
downtown
residents,
recognizing
the
very
different
character
and
needs
of
an
urban
center
and
the
economic
benefits
of
concentrating
parking
with
multiple
users.
E
Ashley's
leadership,
vil
parking
decks
with
downtown
was
empty.
Knowing
we
needed
the
infrastructure
for
growth,
Greenville
did
the
same
thing,
but
has
continued
to
invest
so
parking
is
readily
available
and
they
can
afford
to
eliminate
some
street
parking
to
provide
wider
sidewalks
and
more
plantings
and
Street
tees.
Now.
E
E
E
The
parking
garages
that
are
years-
that's
plural
years
long
and
there
are
a
handful
I
believe
less
than
5
that
are
month,
monthly
street
permit
spaces
available
in
the
central
business
district
and
those
aren't
always
open.
When
the
permit
holders
come
to
work.
The
2008
plan
stated
there
were
plans
to
evaluate
adding
levels
to
rank
in
and
evaluate
the
possibility
of
a
new
parking
lot
on
Rankin
across
from
the
Civic
Center.
No,
the
2008
plan
recommended
satellite
park
and
ride
transit
systems
with
a
dedicated
shuttle
route.
E
C
E
Property
been
purchased,
but
in
an
early
meeting
this
year
we
were
looking
at
a
map
and
I
asked
staff
to
point
out.
The
properties
that
had
been
identified
by
the
city
is
suitable
for
parking
structures.
None
there's
a
popular
narrative
in
this
community
right
now
that
parking
is
for
tourists,
so
we
shouldn't
care
about
it,
but
lack
of
parking
hurts
locals.
Many
of
our
neighbors
work
downtown,
but
parking
is
unavailable.
And/Or
on
and
the
simple
act
of
getting
to
work
is
stressful.
Many.
A
E
Isn't
a
realistic
option
for
many
downtown
employees,
particularly
employees
of
small
business
businesses?
Excuse
me,
tourists
will
circle,
20
minutes
or
pay
whatever
to
park,
but
locals
will
not
and
locals
are
feeling
shut
out
of
their
downtown.
Many
proudly
declare
we
never
found
come
downtown.
I
mean
we've
all
heard
it,
so
our
kids
are
playing
in
Splash,
Ville
and
running
around
Roger
Maguire
green.
B
E
You
know
all
the
things
that
people
travel
here
to
experience
and
that's
a
shame,
but
you
can't
really
blame
locals.
I
came
downtown
over
Labor
Day
when
the
LAT
festival
was
downtown.
The
city
was
charging
nine
dollars
to
park
at
the
Civic
Center
nine
dollars
for
our
all
locals,
somewhat
local,
all
original
free
street
festival,
and
it's
not
the
fault
of
parking
services.
When
you
don't
have
adequate
parking.
Your
primary
management
tool
is
to
price
people
out
of
the
market.
E
You
know
they
really
don't
have
a
choice
and
some
people
are
saying
that
parking
should
be
the
responsibility
of
developers,
so
hello,
Aspen
and
you
might
as
well
roll
out
the
carpet
for
the
chain
stores,
because
the
lack
of
public
parking
means
a
lack
of
housing
diversity.
Downtown
building
dedicated
parking
is
expensive,
particularly
on
smaller
parcels,
and
this
Dix
dictates
high-end
luxury
or
short-term
rentals.
E
If
the
parking
situation
requires
developers
to
include
structured
parking,
the
city
is
effectively
dictating
no
affordable
or
no
workforce
housing
downtown
and
what's
the
point
of
pushing
developers
to
provide
more
affordable
in
downtown
if
monthly
parking
is
unavailable
or
a
hundred
and
twenty-five
dollars
a
month.
So
prior
structured
parking
also
requires
higher
commercial
rents,
threatening
local
businesses
about
the
let
general
lack
of
public
parking
threatens
their
ability
to
do.
Business
I
mean
we've
all
gnashed
our
teeth
about
chain
stores
coming
downtown
and
we're
pushing
building
owners
to
offer
lower
rents
to
small
local
businesses.
E
But
what's
the
point
if
they
can't,
if
they're
forced
to
leave
because
their
employees
can't
get
to
work
and
their
local
customers
can't
afford
or
find
parking?
So
why
should
the
city
provide
parking?
Well,
I
mean
private
developers
don't
benefit
from
the
increased
value
and
growth
that
surrounds
a
parking
deck.
E
But
cities
do
we
did
a
study
back
when
we
were
looking
at
the
5051
biltmore
garage
project
and
we
looked
at
property
values
and
city
property
taxes
around
the
Civic,
Center
Rankin
and
wall
street
parking
garage
garages
in
the
three
decades
after
they
were
built
and
sought.
Private
investment
and
property
tax
increases
that
were
two
to
three
times
higher
than
the
rest
of
downtown.
E
So
not
only
does
the
city
get
paid
back
through
parking
fees
and
the
newest
built
work
project
behind
the
alot
is
far
exceeding
in
income
projections,
but
the
city
also
benefits
from
the
value
of
surrounding
properties,
particularly
when
surface
Lots
can
be
converted
to
higher
and
better
use.
We
can
just
look
at
the
public-private
partnership
at
51
Del
Mar.
There
were
two
properties
at
the
location.
E
There
was
a
surface
lot
with
99
parking
spaces
that
paid
less
than
ten
thousand
dollars
a
year
in
property
taxes,
and
there
was
the
hot
dog
king,
which
probably
didn't
pay
any
more.
Today,
those
parcels
contain
the
Biltmore
garage
which
added
much-needed
parking
to
the
area
and
is
generating
an
income
stream
that
surpasses
expectations
will
soon
I
hope,
have
32
additional
housing
units,
many
which
meet
workforce,
housing,
guidance
guidelines
and
the
a
loft
Hotel,
which
alone
is
paying
over
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
dollars
in
property
taxes
and
ask
the
nearby
businesses
what's
happen
to
sales.
E
Now
their
customers
can
actually
get
to
the
shops
parking
garages
for
good
investments.
The
city
makes
mine
and
larger
garages
with
shared
parking
and
less
dedicated.
Asphalt
are
better
for
the
environment,
free
UPS
care
city
center.
They
can
concentrate
disruption
for
pedestrians,
they
contribute
to
equity
by
offering
reduced
parking
fees
for
service
workers
or
locals,
or
lower-income
residents.
Local
government
and
local
policies
decide
of
our
city
center
is
inclusive
or
exclusive,
and
our
current
crisis
is
a
crisis
of
leadership.
As
agile
is
growing.
We
have
failed
to
provide
the
infrastructure
necessary
for
growth.
E
E
Currently
uses
15%
of
the
taxpayer
providing
parking
spaces
downtown
and
we
also
pay
for
the
city
to
lease
a
24,
its
employees.
There
is
no
member
of
city
staff
on
a
waiting
list
for
a
parking
space
and
we
and
no
city
staff
are
using
the
street
but
spaces
which
are
not
often
available.
City
staff.
Don't
pay
for
mark
parking
city
staff
can
ride
the
bus.
A
V
V
One
of
the
things
I
think
that
we
should
consider
is
you
know
our
current
pit
of
despair
until
we
know
exactly
what
we're
gonna
do
with
that
exactly
how
we're
gonna
pay
for
it.
It's
sitting
right
there.
It's
a
gravel
lot
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
people
have
put
in
some
effort
recently
to
spruce
that
up
a
little
bit.
But
currently
we
have
this.
One
problem,
of
course,
is
a
small
band-aid,
considering
how
much
parking
that
we
need.
V
I
think
that
we
need
to
look
at
all
of
our
city
properties
and
see
how
we
can
immediately
start
using
them,
and
I
would
like
to
explore
ways
that
we
could
perhaps
incentivize
people
who
have
private
lots
that
simply
don't
want
people
to
park
on
their
lot
after
dark
that
kind
of
thing,
there's
any
kind
of
rebate
on
their
water
bill
or
something
that
we
can
do
to
incentivize
the
use
of
that
space.
I
think
that
would
be
some
things
that
we
could
do
in
the
short
term.
F
Comments
or
a
motion
I'll
make
a
motion.
I
moved
to
approve
the
wording,
amendment
adding
standards
for
temporary
parking
lots
in
the
CBD
and
find
that
the
request
is
reasonable,
is
in
the
public
interest
and
is
consistent
with
the
Comprehensive
Plan
and
other
adopted
plans
in
the
following
ways.
One
modifies
development
standards
to
support
a
changing
local
economy
and
two
supports
the
creation
of
necessary
parking
infrastructure
in
the
downtown.
A.
A
Second,
second,
all
right
I
have
a
motion
and
a
second
any
other
questions
comments.
All
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
and
I
just
have
a
thought.
On
the
issue
of
parking
I
know
the
county
is
about
to
finish
up
a
600
space
plus
parking
deck
on
Cox,
Avenue
and
I
know
there's
some
question
about
whether
any
of
those
spaces
will
be
available
on
nights
and
weekends
for
the
public
to
use
so
I
don't
know
if
staff
could
follow
up
with
County
and
find
out
if
what
their
plans.
F
I
I
A
A
Q
Thank
You
mayor
members
of
council
this
this
particular
property
located
at
421,
Airport
Road,
may
look
or
sound
familiar
to
some
of
the
council
members
back
in
June
of
June
27th
of
this
year,
this
property
voluntarily
annexed
into
the
city's
jurisdiction.
So
the
corporate
limits
line
that
you
see
on
this
map
is
actually
around
this
parcel
to
jump
across
airport
Road.
The
parcel
is
1.26
acres
and
is
currently
under
development
for
a
high
turnover
restaurant.
Q
It
is
directly
adjacent
to
highway
business,
zoning
and,
as
a
result
of
the
annexation,
we
need
to
apply
a
zoning
designation
to
this
property,
both
because
of
its
proximity
to
the
highway
business,
as
well
as
because
of
its
current
development
pattern
being
very
similar
and
consistent
with
the
highway
business.
Zoning
designation.
Our
recommendation
is
to
zone
at
highway
business,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
so.
S
A
G
A
A
The
next
item
is
a
public
hearing
to
receive
public
comments
on
the
proposed
limited
obligation,
bond
financing
for
various
capital
projects
and
acquisitions,
as
well
as
the
refinancing
of
existing
debt,
and
to
also
hear
public
comment
on
the
special
obligation.
Bonds
as
part
of
the
overall
plan
of
finance
and
Barbara
is
going
to
make
a
presentation.
I
know
I
need
to
read
this
attachment
to
the
agenda,
but
I
assume
we'll
wait
for
Harbor
to
make
the
presentation
first.
W
This
debt
pardon
me,
is
related
to
the
general
CIP
program
that
we
already
had
in
place
and
and
going
along
before.
We
undertook
to
to
have
a
vote
on
general
obligation,
bonds,
so
different
project
group
and
from
there
I'll
just
go
on
and
I
do
have
a
final
project
list
that
is
online
and
after
and
after
I
go
through
the
presentation,
I'll
put
it
on
the
elmo,
so
people
can
see
it.
W
W
Those
are
the
bonds
that
have
to
be
voted
on
through
referendum
and
they
are
secured
by
property
tax
revenues
and
that's
actually
why
they
have
to
go
to
referendum,
because
when
you
and
I
go
in
and
say
we
want
to
do
those
projects,
we're
saying
we
are
willing
to
pay
on
our
property
tax
for
those
projects.
So
that's
how
that
those
ones
work,
limited
obligation,
bonds
or
lobs
are
secured
by
city-owned
property
they're
a
little
closer
in.
If
you
think
about
a
mortgage
or
something
you
know
it's
it's
more
similar
to
that.
W
Well,
you
get
giggles
if
we
don't,
if
we
don't
say
sobs,
so
the
sobs
are
are
specifically
secured
by
sales
and
other
taxes
and
they
must
be
located
in
a
municipal
service
district
and,
as
you
all
recall,
we
adopted
for
municipal
service,
district
districts,
first,
the
central
business
district,
and
then
we
added
the
south
slope,
River
Arts
and
north
Charlotte
Street.
So
special
obligation
bonds
can
only
be
used
to
fund
projects
in
those
areas
that
meet
the
definition
of
kind
of
revitalizing
an
area.
So
those.
J
W
Three
kinds
of
debt
that
generally
the
city
uses
and
when
we
say
that
basically
just
loans,
they're,
just
big
loans
that
we
sell
on
the
market
rather
than
going
to
a
bank
and
saying
we
need
to
borrow
this,
we
actually
go
to
the
capital
markets
and
we
say
you
want
to
buy
our
bonds
because
we're
really
great
and
we
pay
them
off
with
a
high
interest
rate
and
how
excellent
for
Asheville-
and
we
get
a
lot
of
traffic.
Actually
so,
okay.
So
then
I
wanted
to
talk
about
how
we
actually
use
the
bonds.
W
We
start
out
with
short-term
debt,
which
is
18
to
59
months.
I
mean
short-term
debt
can
be
shorter
than
that,
but
that
short-term
debt
that
we
use
for
our
capital
program
is
usually
18
to
36
months,
but
18
to
59
is
is
about
the
the
most
and
then
this
is
during
construction,
and
it's
also
called
interim
or
construction
debt,
and
we
usually
for
the
case
of
this
short-term
debt,
limited
obligation
bonds
because
that's
a
that's
the
simplest
transaction
for
the
city,
it's
the
least
expensive.
W
As
far
as
doing
short-term
debt,
general
obligation
is
not
really
suited
for
short
term,
because
that's
a
long-term
commitment
of
property
tax
revenues
and
then
long-term
debt.
What
we
do
is
we
issue
our
short-term
debt
and
we
have
a
project
going
and
say
it's
five
hundred
thousand
dollars,
so
we
get
short-term
construction
debt
and
we
work
on
the
projects
and
when
the
project
is
done
or
nearing
done,
then
we
issue
long
term
20-year
debt
that
we
pay
out
then
over
the
life
of
that
capital
asset.
W
Now
the
capital
asset
may
last
50
or
60
years,
but
the
state
limits
us
to
20
years
on
debt,
which
basically
ensures
that
you're
never
paying
for
something
that
is
no
longer
usable.
So
that's
the
idea.
So
essentially
we
get
short-term
debt
and
then
we
refund
it
or
refinance
at
a
lower
rate.
Long-Term
debt
and
the
long-term
debt
can
be
either
limited
obligation,
special
obligation
or
general
obligation,
depending
on
the
project
and
the
location.
W
W
W
If
we
refinance
that
debt,
given
the
market
rates
right
now,
we
normally
wouldn't
do
a
refinancing
for
a
savings
of
six
hundred
and
fifty
five
thousand,
because
the
cost
of
issuing
the
debt
would
offset
too
much
of
that
savings.
But
since
we
are
already
issuing
long-term
debt
to
refund
our
short-term
debt,
that
savings
is
just
kind
of
a
bonus
that
we
can
throw
in
there
by
refunding
these
2012
bonds.
And
we
always
look
at
that
when
we
do
a
debt.
W
But
we
always
want
to
look
at
all
of
our
other
outstanding
debt
and
see
if
it's
eligible
to
be
refunded,
refinanced
and
if
it
is
and
interest
rates
are
in
our
favor.
It's
always
a
good
thing
to
do,
because
that's
six
hundred
and
fifty
five
thousand
dollars
we
didn't
have
so
so
then
the
breakdown
of
the
issuance
that's
going
to
be
in
October,
and
these
are
these
estimates
are
about
what
we
anticipate
them.
W
W
The
local
government
Commission
are
LGC
is
a
state
entity
that
was
created
after
the
financial
markets,
crashed
in
the
Great
Depression
and
all
the
cities,
especially
Asheville,
were
in
a
really
bad
spot.
So
the
state
created
the
local
government
Commission
to
approve
local
debt,
so
they
take
all
of
our
statements
and
our
pro
formas
and
our
comprehensive
annual
financial
report,
our
budget
and
everything,
and
we
go
and
present
all
these
things
to
them
and
they
say
yeah.
You
look
good.
You
can
issue
this
debt
or
no
we're
not
comfortable
with
this
debt.
W
We
think
your
debt
load
is
too
high
or
you
know
whatever,
but
we've
been
to
the
LGC
for
our
preliminary
meetings,
they've,
given
us
the
go-ahead
and
they
should
approve
the
issuance
in
their
October
meeting,
which
is
the
first
week
in
October.
So
that's
the
LG
C's
role
and
they
actually
kind
of
guarantee
by
having
the
LG
see
that
municipal
debt
in
North
Carolina
is
very
safe,
which
is
part
of
why
we
get
excellent
rates
when
we
seller
are
dead
in
the
marketplace.
W
So
then
I
wanted
to
show
how
this
works
right
now
is
the
yellow.
So
the
yellow
of
2012
lobs,
we
have
12
million
and
2016
short-term
lobs.
We
have
about
33
million,
so
you
have
45
million
total
when
we
sell
the
new
bonds
in
October
will
sell,
26
that
26
million
eight
hundred
thousand
in
lobs
and
that's
the
12
million
refunding
the
2012
and
then
the
other
for
the
for
the
projects
that
were
in
the
short
term
and
then
18.2
million
of
sobs
for
a
total
of
45
million.
W
So
we're
basically
taking
45
million
out
of
these
two
buckets
and
putting
them
over
in
these
two
buckets.
But
it's
essentially
the
same
amount
of
debt
with
a
little
less
interest,
because
that's
how
our
that's?
How
our
model
works
as
we
do
the
short,
the
shorter
term
higher
interest,
and
then
we
refund
it
and
pay
it
out
over
the
20
years.
So
that's
so.
A
F
W
We
will
I
mean
I
I'm,
always
hoping
for
an
upgrade.
We
have
an
a
triple-a
from
S&P,
so
we're
as
high
as
we
can
get
with
S&P
with
Moody's
were
one
step
below
that.
Moody's
is
always
a
little
more
challenging
to
make
that
last
step
to
the
triple-a.
It
is
my
fervent
hope
that
during
my
tenure
here,
we
would
get
there.
So
I
will
keep
you
posted,
but.
A
The
City
Council
adopted
a
resolution
on
August
22nd
2017,
which
called
a
public
hearing
on
an
installment
financing
which
is
being
done
through
a
limited
obligation,
bond
financing
structure
and
a
related
special
obligation
bond
financing
for
September
12th.
The
notice
of
the
public
hearing
was
published
on
September
1st
2017.
The
public
hearing
is
being
held
to
hear
public
comments
on
the
proposed
installment
financing,
as
required
by
the
North
Carolina
statutes,
as
well
as
the
special
obligation
bond
financing
being
done
in
conjunction
to
refinance
a
number
of
projects
financed
in
2016
through
an
interim
installment
financing.
A
The
proposed
installment
financing
also
includes
refinancing
a
portion
of
a
financing
done
in
2012
to
achieve
debt
service
savings.
The
proposed
installment
financing
is
for
a
principal
amount
not
to
exceed
30
1.2
million
dollars,
and
the
proposed
special
obligation
bond
financing
is
for
a
principal
amount
not
to
exceed
20
million
dollars.
The
City
Council
will
hear
public
comments
this
evening
and
the
plan
is
for
the
council
to
consider
the
final
approvals
for
both
financings
on
October
3rd,
which
is
our
next
meeting
when.
A
X
Chris
Peterson
on
your
right
mayor.
This
40
million
is
not
got
anything
to
do
with
the
70
million
dollar
bond
that
73
that
year
to
pass.
This
is
40
million
on
your
past
mistakes,
which
go
to
your
city
manager,
Gary
Jackson,
who
should
have
been
fired
four
years
ago,
but
you're
not
going
to
do
that.
So
we're
gonna
sit
here
and
suffer
and
have
to
pay
the
consequences
over
a
hundred
and
thirty
million
dollar
in
debt.
X
So
I
want
people
out
there
TV
land
to
realize
what
you
have
up
here
is
seven
council
people
that
are
absolutely
clueless.
When
it
comes
to
a
budget,
they
have
bankrupted
us
they're,
going
to
continue
to
bankrupt
us.
Oh
I
see
you
smiling
over
there
you're
spending
7
million
on
a
river
that
floods.
Well,
that's
genius!
Where
did
you
get
that?
That's
genius,
any
business
person,
but
we
don't
have
any
business
people
up
there?
X
X
X
B
X
That
money,
and
then
you
got
our
mayor
and
boy
she's
a
genius.
She
absolutely
said
after
she
was
twenty
six
million
dollars
in
the
hole
that
she
was
shocked.
Well,
I'm
not
shocked,
you've
been
here
for
years,
and
you
didn't
know
you
were
26
million
in
the
hole.
It's
a
disgrace
it.
The
public
out
here,
is
not
that
stupid.
None
of
you
people
need
to
be
sitting
in
that
chair.
You
all
need
to
go
and
we
better
get
some
people
up
there
that
need
to
know
how
to
do
a
budget.
It's
a
disaster.
X
V
To
get
kind
of
a
feeling
like
that,
it's
the
Roaring
Twenties
in
Asheville
we've
seen
so
much
prosperity
in
the
last.
You
know
five
six
seven
years,
but
we're
not
keeping
up
with
being
able
to
pay
for
all
of
these
things
see
a
lot
of
these
projects
aren't
even
done
yet,
and
this
is
this
is
money.
The
kind
of
the
bonds
are
paying
for
work.
That's
already
been
done,
I
totally
understand,
taking
the
construction
loan
and
sort
of
refinancing
it
into
the
mortgage,
which
is
essentially
what
we
do
on
these
capital
improvement
projects.
V
It
all
makes
sense,
but
what
doesn't
make
sense
is
how
much
money
we're
spending
and
how
effective
some
of
these
things
are.
You
know,
Craven
Street
is
way
over
budget
Eagle
market
I
believe
is
done.
Yet
we've
got
7.3
million
dollars
in
the
Tiger
six
projects.
Until
yesterday,
it
was
my
understanding
that
rad
tip
was
gonna,
be
funded
from
the
NGO
bonds.
Now
I'm
told
that
that's
not
having
this,
so
we
we
still
have
to
fund
rad
tip.
This
is
forty
five
million
dollars
of
debt
that
we
already
have.
V
What
happens
when
property
values
decline
and
our
tax
base
falls
from
that
we're
gonna
have
to
raise
our
tax
rates
up
in
order
to
pay
for
these
bonds.
This
seems
like
a
really
precarious
situation.
I
am
appalled
that
we
are
also
using
City
Hall
itself
as
collateral
on
these
bonds.
I
mean
I.
Think
that's
just
kind
of
a
symbolic
like
you
know
that
we
have
a
lien
on
our
own
City
Hall.
To
do
this
to
pay
for
stuff,
that's
already
been
done
and
stuff
that
is
yet
to
be
completed.
V
So
I
would
like
a
big
in
a
more
complete
picture
of
what
it
is
that
we
think
we're
gonna
be
spending
in
the
years.
Coming
with
better
information
about
exactly
how
much
all
of
that
stuff
is
going
to
cost
like
you
know,
we
don't
know
what
it's
going
to
cost
two
years
from
now,
when
some
of
these
construction
projects
get
underway,
we
can't
even
get
bids
for
it.
This
is
so
much
money.
That's
what
concerns
me,
not
the
issuance
of
a
bond
right
now
to
consolidate
debt.
V
That
makes
sense,
but
the
amount
of
principle
that
we
have
doesn't
make
sense
and
what
we're
going
forward.
I,
don't
know
if
the
NGO
bonds
would
have
passed
if
the
public
knew
that
we
already
have
this
much
debt
in
the
first
place,
and
we
were
so
far
away
from
completing
the
projects
that
we've
started.
So
that's
what
that
costs
me
quite
a
bit
of
concern.
Thank
you.
Y
My
name
is
Jan
Howard,
Cuban
AK
and,
as
you
know,
I'm
running
for
City
Council,
also,
but
I'm
not
here
to
campaign
I'm
not
here
to
name-call
either,
but
when
I
look
at
these
projects
and
what
is
going
on
and
I,
don't
understand
the
budget,
its
massive
everything
about
it
is
massive.
All
the
projects
does
anyone
know.
As
you
know,
I
live
right
next
to
white
fun
park,
so
all
of
a
sudden,
through
six
million
going
in
up
there
for
a
radio
infrastructure
project.
Y
Now,
where
I've
never
even
seen
that
one
so
there's
been
greenways,
there's
been
white,
fun
Park,
there's
been
boquete,
your
Overlook
Park,
there's
been
and
I'm
concerned,
because
that's
six
million
dollars
now
on
a
budget.
It
hasn't
even
shown
up
before
so
tonight.
You
know
you
don't
have
parks
and
recs
here
so
I
know
you
don't
have
any
answers
for
me
what's
going
on,
but
that
I.
A
G
G
Y
A
H
A
A
I
just
add
a
comment
here
when
we,
when
we
were,
and
me
in
particular,
making
many
many
many
many
presentations
about
the
Geo
bonds
that
were
considered
by
the
voters
last
fall.
One
of
the
things
that
I
would
include
in
my
presentation
was
what
the
current
state
of
the
debt
was
for.
The
city,
which
happens
to
be
at
that
time,
was
relatively
small
compared
to
other
cities
similar
to
us,
and
the
concern
was
that
we
had
been
too
conservative
in
making
investments
into
fixing
infrastructure
and
building
up
a
new
infrastructure.
A
So
you
know
I
know
that
debt
is
a
word
that
makes
many
people
recoil,
including
myself,
but
the.
But
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
that
the
way
the
city's
finance
infrastructure
improvements
is
through
debt
financing,
because
it's
every
to
handle
single
projects
is
on
a
pay-as-you-go
basis.
Would
we
would
never
keep
up
with
what
needs
to
be
done,
and
it's
not
the
best
way
to
leverage
the
funds
so
and.
A
So
so
I'm
glad
to
continue
this
process
and
I'm.
During
the
last
several
years,
we've
put
together
a
pretty
strong
capital
program,
and
obviously
we
heard
earlier
tonight
that
there
needs
to
be
more.
You
know
folks
want
another
parking,
deck
downtown
and
that's
another
item
that
would
have
to
be
debt
financed
and
something
that
we
would
need
to
discuss.
A
F
So
the
plan,
so
the
next
item
of
business,
is
to
confirm
the
interview
candidates
for
our
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission,
and
so
we
have
three
openings
for
that
and
so
for
the
boards
and
commissions
would
recommend
that
we
interview
Laura
Hudson,
Joseph,
Archibald,
Carter,
Webb,
Sandra,
Kilgore,
Robert,
Carol
and
Paul
hark
writer
for
three
three
openings.
Laura
Hudson
would
be
a
brief
renewal.
F
G
F
Those
in
favor
any
opposed
so
again
that's
for
that's
for
interviews
that
will
be
October
3rd
and
so
for
the
affordable
housing.
Advisory
Committee,
previously
City
Council
had
interviews
before
the
meeting.
So
what
I'm
gonna
do
is
ask
you
to
tell
me
which
of
the
two
candidates
for
one
open
seat,
write
one
open
seat,
but
there
are
two
candidates
and.
K
F
Well,
then,
there's
no
vote
unless,
unless
you,
unless
you
want
to
reopen
so
we
had
Leslie,
Hennessey
and
Randall
Barnett
apply
so
boards
and
commissions
would
make
the
motion
that
we
would
reappoint
Randall
Barnett
and
appoint
Leslie
Hennessy,
so
all
those
in
favor
any
opposed.
Okay,
okay,
we'll
start
again
for
the
TDA
for
the
Tourism
Development
Authority.
Before
this
meeting
we
had
interviews,
there
is
one
open
seat,
and
this
is
for
the
position
that
and
I'm
going
to
read
the
definition
of
the
applicant.
F
So
it's
an
individual
actively
involved
in
the
tourist
business
who
who
has
participated
in
tourism
promotion
and
does
not
own
or
operate
hotels,
motels
or
other
taxable
tourist
accommodations.
So
this
is
this
is
for
that
opening.
We
interviewed
Andrew
Andrew,
Selwyn,
jennifer,
lizanne
and
Elizabeth
button.
So
what
I'm
gonna
ask
is,
if
you
would
vote
for
one
of
those
and
I'm
gonna
start
with
you
Keith,
please.
J
F
J
I
F
B
F
G
F
A
Z
Greetings
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
My
name
is
Brenna
stout
I
am
an
actual
based
advocate,
educator,
organizer,
etc.
Also,
transgender,
woman
and
I
want
to
take
a
minute
to
talk
about
HP
142,
but
for
some
context.
Last
year
the
Family
Research
Council
drafted
their
five-point
plan
to
legislate
transgender
people
out
of
public
life.
The
five
points
are
as
follows:
one
legal
gender
marker
changes
should
no
longer
be
allowed
at
either
state
or
federal
levels.
Z
This
one
is
relevant.
Transgender
people
should
not
have
any
legal
protections
against
discrimination.
Three
transgender
people
should
be
denied
access
to
public
facilities
in
accordance
with
their
gender
identities,
for
medical
coverage
related
to
transition
should
be
restricted
to
the
point
of
unavailability.
Five
transgender
people
should
not
be
allowed
to
serve
in
the
military,
mandis
probably
seem
familiar,
and
in
fact
we
have
seen
them
achieved
in
sequence,
both
the
state
and
federal
levels
over
the
last
few
years.
Z
Z
This
comes
after
a
solid
year
of
public
vilification
of
our
community
at
every
level
of
political
discourse
in
the
state.
Our
harasses
have
never
been
so
involved
in
to
discriminate
against
us,
and
our
is
left
with
no
apparent
recourse
to
address
that
situation.
But
there's
not
just
abstract
speculation
and
the
reality
is
HB.
142
are
being
felt
by
those
whose
basic
dignity
it
continues
to
render
out
of
reach.
Z
Glen
Arden
elementary,
a
little
girl
was
made
to
urinate
on
herself
twice
her
parents
had
no
recourse
but
to
remove
her
from
the
school
they
had
to
take
her
out
of
the
school
and
it's
a
story.
That's
been
in
local
papers,
more
recently,
The
Huffington
Post
last
week
and
some
other
story.
It's
the
reality
of
our
state
in
our
town
under
HB,
142
and
I.
Z
Don't
mean
to
suggest
that
the
mayor
had
this
scenario
in
mind
when
she
endorsed
the
legislation
shortly
after
its
passage,
but
I
do
hope
that
the
actual
human
realities
of
that
legislation
can
serve
to
move
your
hearts.
Currently,
our
community
watches,
as
the
current
administration
checks
off
that
five-point
plan
for
eradicating
trans
people
from
public
life
bullet
by
bullet.
We
are
hurting
and
the
federal
government
can
will
not
help
us
and
neither
Stovall
the
state
of
North,
Carolina
and
so
I.
Ask
you:
will
the
city
of
Asheville
stand
with
us?
Z
Will
our
local
representatives
announce
the
cynical
yet
effective
moratorium
on
our
own
civil
rights,
wages
and
labor
regulations?
Well,
the
problem
he
acknowledged.
Will
you
buy
on
our
behalf,
even
gets
messy
to
do
what
you
know
is
right.
I
deeply
want
Asheville
to
live
up
to
the
progressive
spirit
it
claims
to
embody.
The
Asheville
people
are
expecting
when
they
come
here
to
spend
their
money
to
spend
their
lives
I'm
desperate.
Well,
you
got
Thank.
AA
AA
It
was
a
success
and
although
it
was
a
trying
circumstance
to
get
it
off
the
ground,
we
fed
a
lot
of
people
and
there
was
no
violence
at
all
reported
at
the
event.
The
next
item
that
I
want
to
suggest
is
that
I
don't
know
whether
or
not
I
need
to
be
placed
on
a
consent
agenda
or
what
I
sent
both
councilman
young
and
yourself
copies
of
a
letter
on
August,
the
second
making
a
request
for
a
revival
tent
if
I
had
not
put
it
on
my
Visa
card,
the
event
wouldn't
have
taken
place.
AA
AA
AA
Also
I
approached
you
about
an
issue
at
the
last
council
meeting
in
reference
to
Walton
Poulin
Park
becoming
an
historic
site.
I
also
bring
to
your
attention
that
Floyd
McKissick
Shirley
Hempfield.
What
would
be
kissing
was
president
of
the
Corps
and
the
father
of
SolarCity.
Shirley
Hemphill
was
a
comedian
both
internationally
known
both
residents
of
Asheville.
AA
We
have
a
Martin
Luther,
King,
Boulevard,
Martin,
Luther,
King,
Park
and
dr.
King
made
it
as
far
as
mantri.
We
don't
have
a
bobblehead
doll
representing
Florida,
McKissack
or
Shirley
Hemphill,
and
they
have
born
native
ash
billions.
Something
is
wrong
with
this
piece,
so
I
think
mr.
Jackson,
who
told
me
that
I
would
back.
AB
Hello,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak
today,
I'm
here
today
to
publicly
give
my
support
to
Bren
Estelle
and
to
affirm
the
need
of
a
condemnation
of
HB
142
and
the
local
non-discrimination
ordinance.
If
we
would
establish
ourselves
as
a
city
that
is
open
to
people
of
all
walks
of
life,
we
need
to
make
a
firm
public
stand
against
bigoted
laws
like
HB,
2
and
H
would
be
142.
AB
Members
of
the
city
government
have
expressed
concerns
about
a
legal
battle
with
the
state
which
most
likely
would
into
but
activist
groups
like
the
campaign
for
Southern
equality
have
repeatedly
offered
to
pay
for
legal
expenses
associated
with
this
kind
of
legal
battle.
So
this
argument
doesn't
really
hold
water.
I
think
this
would
be
a
strong
message
that
you
could
send
to
your
constituents
to
the
people
of
North
Carolina,
that
we
do
protect
people
all
walks
of
life
and
that
Asheville
is
an
open
place.
That's
going
to
protect
its
citizens.
Thank.
T
T
Mm-Hmm
and
I'm
here
to
talk
about
your
last
City
Council
meeting,
we're
in
new
business,
the
item
a
repeal
resolution,
nine,
five,
five,
nine
changes
to
the
city
of
national
Americans
with
disability,
Disabilities
Act
title
two
policy
that
took
place
it
was
happened.
It
was
enacted,
I'm,
developing
a
non-profit
way
and
would
love
to
include
a
program
supporting
justice,
equity
diversity.
Inclusion
for
Americans,
with
Disabilities
I,
have
now
submitted
the
city
of
Asheville
Americans,
with
Disabilities
Act
compliance
and
public
transparency
resolution.
T
Among
other
elements,
this
resolution
that
directs
the
city
manager
to
release
comprehensive
eighty
eight
performance
data
within
fifteen
days.
If
that
data
was
being
effectively
compiled,
it
would
be
easy
enough
to
make
public.
This
information
cannot
be
attained
by
citizens
or
journalists.
Ting
records
requests,
since
city
council
and
city
map
manager
have
not
been
willing
to
discuss
these
tons
of
matters
in
public
with
a
proper
supporting
civic
engagement
process.
This
lut
resolution
presents
the
challenge
tonight.
T
Mayor,
suspend
your
committee
process
being
there
is
no
identifiable
committee
that
is
covering
88
issues
currently,
and
you
won't
discuss
that
last
week.
As
a
matter
of
fact
of
last
meeting.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
initiate
dialogue
on
the
resolution
and
move
to
enact
the
resolution
before
a
german
adjournment
tonight,
September
the
12th
2017
I
saw
in
the
elderly
african-american
man
who
was
using
a
cane
fall
quite
violently
at
the
heart
station
last
week.
T
Let's
see
yeah
two
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
dollars
and
to
that
two
hundred.
Seventy
thousand
four
hundred
eighty
four
dollars
for
a
facilities,
condition
assessment,
diagnostic
study,
but
the
ad
a
transition
plan
and
self
assessment
requirements
were
not
mentioned.
I
am
sorry
if
you
all
do
not
understand
the
ad
a
transition.
A
T
I
Sorry
to
interrupt
your
flow
here,
but
just
briefly
I
just
wanted
to
mention
with
Hispanic
Heritage
Month
I
just
wanted
to
do
a
follow
up
with
the
manager
about
Spanish
language,
translation
and
kind
of
where
we've
gotten
to
on
that.
There's
something
we
just
a
couple
months
ago.
I
just
wanted
to
check
in.
L
There
there's
quite
a
bit
of
work
that
could
be
done
in
terms
of
putting
together
a
multicultural
communication
plan.
We
provided
some
information
on
where
we've
been,
and
what
the
communication
and
engagement
office
is
doing.
We'd
be
happy
to
follow
up
with
with
more
additional
information
or
to
pursue
any
specific
strategies.
The
council
would
like
us
to
to
pursue.
A
L
A
J
That
Asheville
City
Council
go
in
a
closed
session
for
the
following
reasons:
number
one
to
prevent
disclosure
of
information
that
is
privileged
and
confidential.
Pursuant
to
the
laws
of
North
Carolina
are
not
considered
a
public
record
within
the
meaning
of
chapter
132
of
the
General
Statutes.
The
law
that
makes
the
information
privileged
and
confidential
is
north
carolina
general
statute,
143
318
point
one:
zero.
J
Eight
three,
the
statutory
authorization
is
contained
in
north
carolina
general
statute,
143
318
point
11a,
one
second,
to
consult
with
an
attorney
employed
by
the
city
about
matters
with
respect
to
which
the
attorney-client
privilege
between
the
city
and
its
attorney
must
be
preserved.
Statutory
authorization
is
contained
in
north
carolina
general
statute,
143
318
point
11
a
3
second.