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A
Okay,
welcome
to
the
Asheville
city
council,
meeting:
everybody
we're
live,
yeah,
okay,
all
right!
Well,
very
enthusiastic
crowd
tonight.
Thank
you.
So
everyone
just
take
a
moment
and
silence
your
cell
phones
and
make
sure
if
you
want
to
speak
on
an
item
on
the
agenda
sign
up
out
in
the
hall
with
Jerry
she's
she's
in
there,
and
we
have
a
spreadsheet
that
populates
during
the
meeting.
So
we
can
see
your
name
pop
up.
A
B
A
Okay,
we
do
not
have
any
proclamations
this
evening,
the
so
we're
going
to
begin
with
the
consent
agenda.
I
have
just
been
notified
that
councilwoman
Rooney
would
like
to
pull
items
H
through
K
to
be
voted
on
separately.
So
can
I
have
a
motion
to
adopt
the
consent
agenda?
Well,
wait!
Let
me
just
say
this:
does
anyone
else
have
an
item
they
want
removed
from
the
okay,
so.
D
A
Okay,
sorry,
okay!
So
then
so
we're
pulling
items
to
be
voted
on.
Do
you
want
to
vote
on
them
separately,
or
do
you
just
want
to
ask
some
questions
separately?
Okay,
so
for
H
I
j,
k
and
Q.
So
do
I
have
a
motion
to
adopt
the
remaining
items
on
the
consent
agenda.
This
is
Sage
I'll
move.
A
C
Before
we
do
that,
then
I
have
a
comment
on
item
C.
Okay,
sorry
for
item
C.
This
is
the
resolution
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
accept
Grant
funds
from
the
Golden
Leaf
foundation
for
Swannanoa
River
Road
flood
mitigation
and
damage
reduction
and
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
the
appreciation
for
staff
on
the
study.
C
I
think
this
is
really
important
work,
but
also
I
wanted
to
acknowledge
the
Oakley
neighborhood
association
who's
been
hosting
events
like
the
open
streets,
events
helping
us
to
imagine
how
this
road
could
not
only
be
safer
for
all
modes
of
transportation.
Not
just
for
this
want
to
know
a
river
Corridor,
but
also
connected
streets
like
Thompson.
E
A
Opposed
okay,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
think
about
how
to
do
the
rest
of
this
I
assume.
We
need
separate
votes,
then
on
H
one
and
two
I
one
and
two
I
can
do
H
one
and
two
together.
You.
D
A
Okay,
all
right
so
I'm
just
trying
to
decide
here
where
we're
going
to
take
public
comment,
because
we've
got
folks
that
have
signed
up
here
and
then
it's
going
to
take
us
a
little
bit
to
get
through
all
of
these.
A
So
here's
what
we'll
just
start
with
the
first
one
and
then
I
think
we'll
take
public
comment.
I
do
want
to
explain
that
for
the
last
item,
Q,
which
is
the
committee
assignments
and
liaison
positions
for
council
members-
that
although
the
entire
list
is
attached
our
agenda,
the
only
committee
assignments
that
the
council
needs
to
vote
on
is
to
appoint
Maggie
Ullman
to
the
mpo
sage,
Turner
to
the
audit
committee
and
Maggie
Ullman
to
these
to
CPAC.
A
So
otherwise
the
rest
of
those
committee
assignments
are
my
discretion
and
and
do
not
need
to
be,
and
nor
are
they
voted
on
typically
by
Council.
So
I
just
wanted
to
explain
that
for
purposes
of
our
voting
tonight.
So
with
that
and
we're
going
to
go
through
each
of
these,
but
with
that
first
do
I.
Have
a
motion
to
approve
H1
resolution
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
apply
for
and
accept
Grant
funds
from
the
US
Department
of
Justice
for
the
2022
bulletproof
vest
partnership,
Grant.
A
Okay,
the
first
okay.
So
if,
when
you
speak,
you'll
have
three
minutes
and
the
lights
on
the
lectern
will
be
green
means
go
and
that
orange
one
means
you're
getting
close
to
the
end
and
red
and
the
buzzer
means
stop,
and
so
please
be
mindful
of
that.
We
try
to
keep
it
to
three
minutes
so
that
we
can
hear
from
everyone
who
signed
up
to
speak.
So
the
first
person
signed
up
to
speak
is
Sheila
surette.
A
B
Okay,
there
you
go
convenient
font,
we
don't
need
Kim
Romney
on
the
environment,
public,
safe
committee,
I,
don't
feel
safe
with
her
at
all.
On
this
committee,
she
votes
against
our
APD,
which
is
not
safe
for
our
community.
We
should
not
have
a
lot
of
crime
for
a
city
over
99,
000
people,
our
First
Responders
manner.
We
have
a
D.A
that
then
this
is
the
charges,
puts
these
people
right
back
on
the
street
and
repeat
our
repeat
the
crime.
Over
and
over
I'll
watch
someone
Kick
a
Hole
in
the
window.
B
Last
week
in
a
business
downtown
I've
watched
many
business
owners.
I've
watched
many
people
get
assaulted
in
downtown
Asheville.
Our
firefighters
I'd
like
to
know
what
happened
to
the
back
pay
that
was
promised
to
them.
I
was
here
in
the
room
when
it
was
promised
to
them.
That
was
part
of
the
of
the
pay
plan
that
was
approved
in
last
year's
budget.
We
need
a
safe
community.
B
A
B
E
G
Council
mayor
I'm,
a
single
female
in
Asheville,
North,
Carolina
and
I'm,
not
safe
in
my
city,
I,
carry
multiple
sources
of
protection
for
myself,
which
you
know
if
it
was
a
different
team
over
the
safety.
Maybe
it
would
be
different,
I,
don't
believe
in
defunding
the
police
that
is
such
an
asinine
thing
to
even
come
up
with,
but
I'm.
G
Also,
an
advocate
and
I
have
activist
for
all
people
for
the
homeless,
I'm
on
the
trans
Transit
committee
for
everyone,
but
we
all
need
to
be
safe
and
we
don't
need
to
be
scared
to
walk
downtown
anywhere
around
downtown
or
anything
like
that,
and
the
people
who
are
on
meth
are
et
cetera,
Etc
do
get
arrested
and
they
are
lit
right
back
out
because
I
keep
up
with
the
inmates
and
I
watch,
because
I
want
to
know
what
everybody's
doing
in
my
town.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank.
H
Respectfully
City
Council,
thank
you
for
the
decision
to
rotate
Kim
Roney
off
the
newly
combined
Public
Safety
and
environment
committee.
I've
attended
several
Public
Safety
meetings
and
it's
clear
that
Kim
didn't
have
interest
in
supporting
any
request
from
a
beleaguered
police
department
down
by
42
percent.
H
She
votes
no
99
of
the
time
and
no
twice
to
bulletproof
vests
what
a
slap
in
the
face.
This
is
to
the
police
department
she's,
an
elected
protester
versus
a
public
servant
willing
to
govern.
With
balance,
we
also
have
a
new
Council
Committee
Member
Maggie
Olman,
who
has
the
experience
for
the
environmental
portion
of
this
new
committee.
As
for
this
claim
for
lack
of
transparency,
we
are
a
city,
manager-driven
city,
with
Deborah
Campbell,
who
comes
with
vast
experience
for
the
oversight
of
this
department.
H
We
have
two
Vice
Mayors
Shanika,
Smith
and
Sandra
Kilgore
on
this
committee
and
literally
anyone
can
attend
from
the
public.
As
for
our
Asheville
Coalition
for
Public
Safety,
we
continue
to
research,
the
Fallout
of
many
cities
with
high
attrition
rates
in
their
police
departments.
It
is
clear
that
we
cannot
ignore,
punish
and
disregard
the
city
Department
any
longer.
No
one
wants
to
work
where
they
are
constantly
maligned
by
the
public.
The
APD
has
sort
of
defunded
itself
by
sheer
attrition.
H
They
have
absorbed
a
long,
calculated,
Community
organized
effort
to
abolish
them
driving
a
false
Narrative
of
the
actual
decision-making
process
in
a
chain
of
command
within
our
city.
Asheville
has
changed
dramatically
in
the
past
two
years.
We
are
attracting
an
acute
humanitarian
crisis
from
other
cities
that
has
grown
exponentially,
as
our
police
department
has
shrunk.
How
do
we
address
the
problem
of
houseless
people
being
given
one-way
bus
tickets
to
Asheville?
H
Can
Asheville
afford
to
absorb
more
and
more
people
in
our
streets
coming
in
from
places
like
Morganton,
Durham
and
Winston-Salem,
we
have
professional
panhandling
families,
exploiting
children
who
are
when
they're
confronted
drive
off
in
their
new
minivans.
We
continue
to
hear
from
business
around
Asheville
of
theft,
people
fighting
in
parking
lots
and
just
Monday
morning
a
group
of
female
Runners
were
chased
down
by
a
man.
Yesterday,
an
employee
at
Trader
Joe's
told
me
how
he's
tired
of
the
homeless
coming
in
and
stealing
while
he
works
stocking
the
shelves.
H
H
I
Thank
you,
I'm
Todd,
Levin
I've
lived
in
Asheville
since
probably
mid
90s
I'm,
a
local
attorney
and
I
live
in
Montford
I'm
here
on
my
own
behalf
and
I
just
want
to
come
and
really
quickly
say
that
I
love,
Asheville,
I
love,
my
neighborhood
I'm,
so
glad
I'm
raising
my
children
here,
but
lately
the
crime
has
been
increasing
and
so
I
just
really
want
you
all
to
urge
I
want
to
urge
you
please
try
to
look
after
our
Police
Department
support
them.
I
did
not
touch.
I
Bill
that
comes
up
where
you
can
increase
the
safety
or
the
pay
of
our
Police
Department.
Please
do
it.
I
have
two
young
girls
and
I
really
want
them
to
love
Asheville
as
much
as
I.
Do
okay,
I'm
a
little
disappointed
in
some
of
you
for
your
lack
of
support
and
I
hope
that
changes
and
just
be
good
people
and
protect
our
police?
That's
all
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you.
A
Is
that
going
to
fall
off
of
there?
Anybody
get
eyeballs
on
that?
Don't
worry
it
wasn't
you.
It
happened
in
our
earlier
work
session
too.
E
A
A
A
L
Council
members,
city
manager,
please
support
the
Asheville
Police
Department
more
than
you
have
in
the
past.
Please
give
them
the
PPE
that
they
need,
such
as
bulletproof
vests.
When
there
are
grant
money
is
available
to
give
the
Asheville
Police
Department
the
tools
that
they
need
to
go
home
safely
to
their
families
at
the
end
of
a
shift.
Please
do
not
vote
against
it.
It's
a
slap
in
the
face
of
the
police.
L
Also,
we
need
the
D.A
to
enforce
the
laws
and
not
have
a
catch
and
release
program.
Please
support
the
police
by
letting
the
district
attorney
know
that
we
need
and
expect
him
to
prosecute
the
criminals.
Thank
you
for
your
service
to
the
city
and
supporting
the
men
and
women
of
the
Asheville
Police
Department.
M
We
we
don't
suffer
from
a
lack
of
advertising,
I'm,
going
to
tell
you
how
to
fix
it
and
I'm
not
going
to
charge
you
a
cent
you
need
to
respect
honor
and
support
the
police
department.
They
get
none
of
that
from
the
present
City
Council.
How
many
of
you?
This
is
a
rhetorical
question!
How
many
of
you
have
ever
called
up
the
chief
and
said
chief?
Let
me
buy
you.
A
cup
of
coffee
I
want
to
come
over.
Ask
you
what
we
we
can
do
for
the
police
department
in
the
city
I.
M
M
Asheville
some
vague
Russian
criminals,
I
mean
people
that
defaced
public
property
in
front
of
the
police
department
painted
in
bright
red
letters.
Defund
the
police
and
the
police
never
came
out
to
stop
this
or
I
understand
that
there
was
a
lot
of
turmoil
going
on
in
the
city.
At
that
time
it
may
not
have
been
safe,
but
the
next
day
you
spent
eighteen
thousand
dollars
of
our
taxpayer
money
to
remove
the
graffiti
on
the
street.
Defund
the
police-
and
my
last
point
is
this
new
committee.
M
A
M
N
A
O
I
come
before
Council
and
the
public
is
a
registered
Democrat
I
admire
your
passion
and
that
of
your
followers
Miss
Rainey
I
do
I
am
passionate
too,
but
I
see
a
city
council,
Public,
Safety
Committee
as
being
in
a
type
of
parent-child
relationship
with
the
police
department.
There
have
been
countless
times.
I
have
disagreed
with
my
children's
choices,
where
I'm
not
just
asked
for,
but
demanded
Improvement
in
certain
areas.
O
That
is,
and
will
always
be
not
just
okay
but
necessary,
but
I
have
never
thrown
my
children
symbolically
or
virtually
in
front
of
an
oncoming
train
to
teach
them
a
lesson
to
vote.
However,
symbolically
against
a
grant
that
provides
bulletproof
vests
for
our
offers
led
me
to
stop
seeing
your
role
as
that
of
the
council
member.
That
was
asking
for
accountability,
and
instead
is
one
who
lost
sight
of
their
purpose
on
the
committee.
O
A
much
more
powerful
move
for
me
would
have
been
to
see
you
vote
unequivocally,
yes
to
the
best
and
simultaneously
make
a
statement
about
what
you
want
to
see
changed
going
forward.
I
gotta
admit
I
paused
when
I
read
the
cold
Pro
media
marketing
their
mission
to
create
media
content
that
would
provide
Community
Building
spin
for
lack
of
a
better
word
can
be
taken
at
face
value
to
be
troubling.
O
But
why
do
we
need
a
PR
firm
in
police
departments
across
this
country,
because
we
have
learned
that
the
Playbook
has
changed
quickly
and
radically
in
the
reporting
of
incidents
to
the
media
to
even
faster
and
more
careless
content?
Spin
is
everywhere.
Spin
is
never
necessarily
lying
per
se,
but
it's
leaving
out
facts.
Editing,
quotes
phrasing
content
in
a
way
that
leads
a
predisposed
public
to
immediate
danger,
anger
and
indignation.
It
promotes
a
one-sided
narrative
that
will
never
lead
to
consensus
or
resolution
that
benefits
us
the
public.
O
So
when
you
have
an
agenda
that
seeks
to
discredit
the
police
whenever
possible
and
people
that
specialize
and
spin,
naturally,
on
your
side,
you
leave
a
police
force
whose
job
it
is
to
serve
and
protect
the
community
with
a
choice,
don't
respond
because
they
don't
have
resources,
pull
a
person
off
duty
to
deal
with
the
media
and
try
and
fill
in
missing
context
or
keep
the
officers
doing
what
they
are
so
minimally
paid
to
do
and
hire
a
PR
firm
proposition.
This
is
a
renewable
contract.
Chief
Zack
is
not
required
to
renew
it
next
year.
O
So
why
don't?
We
all
spend
this
year
working
towards
not
needing
it
next
year?
Let's
stop
creating
spin
on
either
side
of
these
issues.
Let's
commit
to
reporting
the
facts
of
every
situation
with
complete
integrity
and
instead
use
our
precious
resources
of
time,
intelligence,
passion
and
money
to
work
together
with
compassion
and
a
newfound
absence
of
animosity
to
support
the
thing
that
we
all
want:
a
safer
Asheville
for
our
homeless,
our
police
and
our
community
at
large.
Clearly,
it's
not
easy
or
we'd
already
be
doing
it.
O
P
Hey
Council
I
want
to
quickly
offer
congratulations
to
council
members,
Mosley
and
Smith
and
Omen,
and
to
the
mayor
for
your
electoral
success
last
month.
I
want
to
speak
to
a
couple
of
consent
items
as
the
person
just
before
the
consent,
Jay
and
I.
Don't
I
personally,
don't
understand
why
we
need
162
000
for
a
PR
firm,
especially
one
that
seems
to
specialize
in
in
obscuring
the
truth.
Even
though
they're
called
it's
called
transparency,
engagement
and
I.
Don't
understand
why
this
kind
of
thing
is
on
the
consent
agenda.
P
It
just
feels
like
if
you
all
want
to
do
that.
It
should
be
more
of
a
discussion,
because
I
think
the
last
person
was
correct.
This.
This
is
an
issue
which
people
feel
strongly
about
it:
different
directions:
I,
don't
think
the
solution
is
just
to
try
to
slip
it
through.
So
I
think
we
should
be
talking
about
these
things
and
ultimately,
I
think
our
problem
is
not
really
a
PR
problem
when
it
comes
to
Public,
Safety
I
think
spin
is
not
gonna.
It's
not
gonna
solve
this
issue.
P
The
other
thing
I
want
to
address
is
is
item
Q,
which
is
the
and
I
thanks
to
the
citizen
times
today.
For
for
their
reporting,
we
now
know
that
Chief
Zach
essentially
thinks
that
that
council,
member
Roney
adversely
affects
Public
Safety
I.
Guess
one
could
say
that
she's
a
perceived
threat
to
Public,
Safety
and-
and
that's
a
it's
a
very
to
me-
it's
a
very
serious
charge.
This
is
somebody's
a
threat
to
Public
Safety
and
requires
some
explication.
So
what
what
is
the
threat?
E
P
Think
that
council,
member
Rooney,
is
a
threat.
I
think
these
are
very
serious
allegations.
What
what
is
observable
when
you
watch
these
meetings
is
that
councilman
Roney
can
be
a
pain
in
the
ass
and
can
can
ask
a
lot
of
questions
and
can
be
make
people
uncomfortable,
right
and
and
I
I
understand
not
liking.
That
I
mean
my
my
partner.
Sometimes
will
question
me
and
query
me
about.
P
Supportive,
but
people
have
talked
about
how
do
we?
You
know
the
police
don't
feel
supported.
Everybody
wants
to
feel
supported,
but
sometimes
support
looks
like
people
asking
you
hard
questions,
and
so
I
I
feel
like
it's
really
essential
that
if
there
are
a
perception
of
threat
from
somebody,
then
it
needs
to
be
something
that's
actually
articulated.
It
can't
just
be
sort
of
an
innuendo,
and
chief
sack
did
not
want
to
elaborate
on
how
he
perceives
council
member
Roni
as
a
threat,
so
we're
left
to
speculate.
I
feel
like
if
this
is
really
the
issue.
P
If
that's
the
reason,
then
there
should
be
some
more
explanation
as
to
what
the
threat
is,
because,
what's
observable
is
mostly
that
she
she
asks
a
lot
of
questions
and
she
pushes
back
and
she
wants
to
know
what
the
budget
numbers
are
and
things
like
that
which
does
not
seem
what
seems
like
a
threat
to
me
to
Public
Safety
is
for
that
to
be
perceived
as
a
threat.
That
is
a
reason
to
have
somebody
not
on
a
committee.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
P
R
That's
a
great
segue
actually
because
that's
exactly
what
I
want
to
talk
about
I'm,
not
here
to
say
that
our
service
members
don't
need
bulletproof,
vests
I'm,
not
here,
to
say
that
they
don't
need
to
be
safe
because
they
do
and
I
want
them
to
be
safe.
I
am
here
because
I
take
issue
with
how
money
is
allocated
in
our
police
force.
R
Following
on
the
heels
of
the
person
who
came
before
me,
we
don't
have
racially
Equitable
policing
in
Asheville.
We
just
don't
that's
what
the
data
shows
and
I
know
it,
because
I've
worked
with
that
data
myself
and
that's
where
the
contention
comes
from
between
the
community
and
the
police.
Some
of
us
believe
this
that
we
don't
have
racially
Equitable
policing
and
some
of
us
don't
and
because
of
this
disagreement,
we're
at
odds
with
each
other
and
that's
where
I
see
this
PR
firm
coming
in
to
kind
of
smooth
that
over.
R
But
the
fact
is,
we
don't
need
that
smooth
over.
If
that's
not
a
fact,
if
it's
not
true,
then
we
need
to
research
that
and
we
need
to
have
data.
That
shows
that
it's
not
true
if
it
is
true-
and
that
is
what
the
data
shows,
then
we
need
to
address
that
directly.
We
need
to
come
up
with
solutions
that
produce
data
that
does
show
that
we
will
have,
or
on
track
to
have
racially
Equitable
policing
at
Asheville.
R
Pr
Company
won't
solve
that.
It's
also
not
going
to
build
trust
with
the
community,
because
what
it
looks
like
is
just
covering
things
up:
taking
actionable
steps
to
improve
things
and
having
data
that
shows
that
things
are
in
fact
improving
will
build
trust
with
the
community
and
that's
what
we
need.
R
S
It's
despicable
for
us
to
spend
an
additional
162
thousand
dollars
of
the
people's
money
to
fund
propaganda,
PR
firm,
Cole,
Pro
media
and
make
us
all
forget
about
the
atrocities
Asheville
Police
Department
is
committing
in
our
community.
Your
own
documents
acknowledge
that
this
fixer
firm
comes
from
a
recommendation.
After
the
appalling
beating
of
Johnny
Rush
David
Zach
came
to
our
community
ready
to
employ
TV
journalist,
Laura
Cole's
company
to
bury
bad
news
after
our
City's
cops
made
international
news
for
destroying
the
medic
tent
and
stabbing
water
bottles
during
the
uprisings.
S
S
We
spare
no
expense
for
police,
while
the
people
who
live
here
suffer
meanwhile
cold
Pro
media
is
also
at
the
ready
for
any
critical
incident
videos
to
spend
whatever
horrific
act.
We
catch
our
police
engaging
in
next
in
Pacific,
Grove
California.
When
residents
were
concerned
that
an
officer
was
displaying
a
bumper
sticker
for
the
three
percenters,
a
right-wing
terrorist
militia
group,
Cole
Pro,
advised
elected
officials
to
tell
community
members
quote
that
continuing
to
bring
this
up
has
been
counterproductive
and
does
not
allow
us
to
move
past
this
as
a
community.
S
This
same
radical
is
the
same
rhetoric.
We
heard
after
APD
blatantly
fabricated
data
to
fear-monger
our
community
about
our
unhoused
neighbors
APD
continues
to
pull
over
our
black
community
members
in
seven
out
of
10
investigative
traffic
stops
and
use
of
forces
directed
at
black
people
33
of
the
time,
while
they're
just
11
percent
of
our
population.
S
We've
seen
APD
protect,
gun,
toting
KKK
member,
allow
fascists
to
run
into
protesters
and
brazenly
they
continue
to
employ
deputy
chief
James
baumstark,
while
he's
currently
being
sued
for
overseeing
a
sex
trafficking
ring
in
Virginia,
Cole,
Pro
and
apd's
strategy
ignore
questions
from
the
media
and
pretend
none
of
this
is
happening
post
a
picture
of
a
flower
instead
to
call
this
transparency
is
like
1984
Newspeak.
This
item
being
held
as
on
the
consent
agenda
and
not
as
a
public
hearing,
is
absolutely
ridiculous.
You
do
not
represent
us
you're
representing
the
police
interest.
S
You
yourselves
have
been
intimidated
by
the
police
power
that
pushes
you
around.
Meanwhile,
we
have
no
say
in
the
matter,
but
we
will
continue
to
speak
the
truth,
as
you
continue
to
blow
consultants
in
order
to
obscure
information,
ignore
any
questions
about
you
or
your
cops
content
and
fuel
extremist
rhetoric.
We
are
watching
and
we
see
the
game
that
is
being
played
here,
no
matter
what
quote
tree
huggerish
slogan,
coolpro
media
comes
up
with
next
thank.
A
You,
the
next
person
signed
up
to
speak,
is
Joe
Wilkerson.
T
Thank
you
for
having
me
I
wanted
to
speak
in
response
to
the
committee
assignments
also,
which
I
think
is
consent.
Agenda.
Q
I,
understand
that
city
council
Works
in
tandem
with
City
staff,
and
that
respect
for
the
subject
matter.
Expertise
of
your
appointed
colleagues
is
essential
to
Civic
process
that
any
particular
Department
might
have
a
preference
about
which
elected
officials
they
prefer
to
work
closely
with
does
not
come
remotely
as
a
surprise,
I've
got
colleagues
too.
T
Doing
so
washes
out
the
important
distinction
between
collaboration
with
staff,
which
is
essential
and
cooperation
with
resisting
run-of-the-mill
oversight.
Oversight,
I
understand,
might
seem
like
obstruction
when
any
department
is
struggling.
As
so
many
police
departments
Across
the
Nation
are,
but
we
don't
ultimately
serve
anyone
by
allowing
that
Twisted
logic
to
stand.
T
My
concerns
are
twofold:
first,
bowing
to
pressure,
undermines
The
public's
trust
in
sort
of
the
separation
of
powers.
That's
the
way
it
was
put
to
me
in
grade
school
and
the
second.
It
risks
cutting
chairwoman
Oldman
and
vice
mayor
Kilmore
and
councilwoman
Smith
off
at
the
knees,
because
the
message
that
I'm
taking
in
rightly
or
wrongly,
is
sort
of
ask
too
many
questions,
and
this
is
going
to
be
your
last
term
on
this
particular
committee.
T
This
particular
very
important
committee,
so
I
really
want
Asheville
to
have
an
effective,
functional,
adequately,
staffed
trusted
and
trustworthy
police
department
and
I
suppose
Madam
mayor
to
you.
My
concern
is
that
by
replacing
a
squeaky
wheel
and
I
understand
that
councilman
warning
can
be
exactly
that.
We've
made
it
more
difficult
in
the
long
term
to
do
this.
Visionary
work
of
reimagining,
Public
Safety,
so
all
is
not
lost.
I'm,
not
standing
up
here
as
a
pessimist.
T
We
have
three
excellent
and
very
capable
Council
women
on
the
committee,
look
forward
to
the
work
that
you
all
will
do
and
I
just
speaking
as
a
family
member
of
multiple
recovering
alcoholics
for
a
second
confrontation
is
an
act
of
Love.
Asking
difficult
questions
is
a
way
of
showing
care
and
commitment
to
what
matters
most
and
so
I
hope
we'll
see
that
happen
whoever's
on
the
committee.
Thank
you
all
for
listening
to
me.
Thank
you.
J
J
You
don't
know
me
I'm
from
DC,
I,
understand
government
and
that's
why
you
haven't
seen
me
before
when
I
was
born.
I
was
in
the
in
the
womb.
Both
my
parents
worked
in
Congress
I
understand
this
stuff
in
ways
that
I
wish
I
didn't
I'm,
asking
all
members
of
the
city
council
to
deliver
the
clear
message
that
they
believe
that
police
accountability
deserves
more
discussion.
J
U
As
a
member
of
this
community
I
would
like
city
council
to
reject
the
request
of
the
Asheville
Police
Department
for
162
thousand
dollars
to
hire
a
PR
firm,
called
Cole
Pro
media,
which
has
made
it
clear
through
their
practices
that
their
goal
is
to
cover
up
bad
PR.
Instead
of
holding
people
and
systems
accountable
for
the
harm
they
cause,
our
community
members,
the
money
could
instead
be
used
to
support
Social
Services
for
the
most
at-risk
folks
in
our
community.
I
also
want
to
Parrot
the
concerns
from
folks
here
about
how
restructuring
the
committees
has
limited.
U
E
V
What
I
saw
was
it
again,
there's
a
phrase,
but
the
actions
are
more
of
the
same
handling.
A
PR
firm
to
produce
spin
for
the
police
department
is
not
reimagining,
Public,
Safety,
bowing
to
pressure
from
the
Asheville
Police
Department
as
to
who
is
on
the
committee
that
oversees
their
budget
is
not
reimagining,
Public
Safety
Not
only
is
it
not
reimagining
Public
Safety,
it's
hampering
any
ability
to
reimagine
Public
Safety.
V
V
We
cannot
reimagine
Public
Safety.
If
those
who
ask
very
reasonable
questions
in
the
name
of
transparency
for
budget's
sake
are
removed
for
asking
questions
at
the
request
of
the
police
department,
I
ask
you
Council
to
consider
removing
the
approval
of
Co
media
and
their
contract
from
the
consent
agenda,
and
I
really
hope
that
this
is
not
setting
a
standard
for
the
future,
where
anyone
who
asks
questions
of
the
police
department
is
summarily
removed
from
their
position
and
have
somebody
more
agreeable
put
in
place.
Thank
you.
W
W
X
It's
been
a
while,
since
I
came
and
provided
public
input
to
you
all
I,
don't
really
have
confidence
in
anything.
Changing
most
things
are
on
the
consent.
Agenda
are
already
decided
upon,
but
I
would
like
to
point
out
that.
X
I,
don't
really
see
the
I,
don't
really
understand
why
you
can't
give
a
reason
why
certain
things
are
happening,
whereas
you
know
with
the
Public
Safety
Committee,
and
you
have
a
police
chief,
this
that
has
the
ability
to
decide
who
can
get
on
and
who
can
get
off
of
the
committee.
That
sets
a
terrible
precedent
for.
Y
Hello
I
did
not
prepare
remarks
so
I'll
be
rather
brief
and
you'll
have
to
before.
You
can
give
me
If
I
Stumble,
but
I
wanted
to
say
that
I,
along
with
many
of
the
other
commenters
here
I,
am
firmly
against
the
contract
with
with
Cole
Pro
media
and
the
and
the
the
censoring
of
council,
member,
Roni
and
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
for
a
moment.
Y
Y'all
you're,
not
letting
criticism
happen,
you're,
not
letting
members
of
the
council
who
say
stuff
that
you
don't
want
to
hear
say
their
say
their
part,
and
that
really
makes
me
wonder
what
you
think.
Your
role
is
in
in
all
this
and
and
how
you
operate.
If
you
operate
at
the
behest
of
the
people
or
the
police
department,
are
you
uncom
comfortable?
Y
You
should
be
uncomfortable,
that's
part
of
your
job
and
if
you
are
not
happy
with
being
uncomfortable,
then
maybe
you
shouldn't
be
in
this
job,
so
think
about
that
and
Maybe
consider
how
to
better
serve
all
the
the
folks
in
in
Buncombe
County,
including
houseless
folks,
who
are
literally
being
evicted
as
we
speak
by
Asheville
Police
Department.
Y
A
Z
Z
Full-Time
I
was
born
for
14
years
prior
to
that
I
was
a
medic
and
worked
for
EMS,
not
only
here
in
Buncombe
County,
but
also
in
Gaston
County
I've
got
the
unique
position
of
having
Warner
ballistic
vest
to
protect
me,
while
I'm
out
trying
to
protect
the
public
I,
don't
do
that
job
anymore,
I
left
for
other
reasons,
if
I
were
the
way
that
law
enforcement
has
been
treated
in
this
County
and
in
this
city,
specifically
I
would
absolutely
leave.
I
would
advocate
for
officers
that
are
currently
here
dealing
with
this
to
leave.
Z
I
think
the
removal
of
Miss
Roney
from
the
Public
Safety
Committee
is
a
step,
a
small
step
in
the
right
direction.
I've
got
experience
in
in
that
realm.
I've
got
experience
in
law
enforcement.
I
can
say
that
unequivocally
when
you
have
an
agenda
driven
activist
on
a
Public
Safety
Committee.
That's
not
in
the
interest
of
Public
Safety,
that's
just
activism
I
appreciate
that
she
is
no
longer
or
should
not
be
any
longer
on
that
committee.
Z
I
appreciate
that
we
are
going
to
it
looks
like
except
the
best
Grant,
that's
a
step
in
the
right
direction,
but
not
I'm,
not
just
advocating
for
law
enforcement.
Z
It's
it's.
Not
it's
not
up
here.
I
would
invite
Miss
Roney
and
any
other
member
of
council
jump
in
a
patrol
car.
They'll,
probably
give
you
a
vest
jump
in
there
ride
with
them.
Don't
do
it
during
the
day
go
to
West
Asheville
right
on
the
third
shift,
see
what's
actually
happening
in
the
city
and
what
our
officers
are
doing.
We
have
lost
so
many
police
in
this
city
that
you're
not
going
to
replace
one
recruit
for
one
lost
officer
of
15
20
years,
and
it's
not
just
attrition
for
retirement.
Z
AA
I
was
just
writing
up
what
I
was
going
to
say
right
now,
I'm,
not
here,
to
pretend,
like
you
care
that
you
will
even
listen
to
me.
I've
been
coming
here
for
the
past
four
years,
with
the
hopes
that
my
voice
will
be
heard,
whether
you
listen
or
not,
it
will
be
heard,
as
we
all
know.
Now.
Maybe
you
don't
know,
but
that's
going
to
happen.
I
will
say
the
people
of
Asheville
deserve
that
people
who
represent
them.
AA
When
I
look
and
listen
to
you
all
I
am
positive
that
I
don't
most
of
the
people
in
my
communities
don't
either
and
that
Community
batteries,
because
I'm
involved
in
many
different
communities
in
this
city,
I,
say
community
and
I
already
said
that
forward.
I,
don't
think
you
should
remove
Kim
from
the
committee,
because
you're
already,
but
I
also
believe
that
you're
already
doing
that.
So
it's.
AA
To
say,
I
went
to
school
for
criminal
justice,
my
dad's
a
cop,
my
grandfather's,
a
cop,
my
uncles,
are
all
cops
and
I
think
the
criminal
justice
system
has
done
more
to
traumatize
me
in
my
life,
aside
from
the
that
happened
in
2020
than
I
can
ever
ever
undo
and
I.
Think
that
the
longer
you
continue
down
this
path,
you're
going
to
do
that
to
every
person.
Excuse
me
every
person
in
this
County
don't
excuse
me,
I
mean
it
is
what
it
is.
It's
human
language
you've
already
have
a
great
evening.
AC
Thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you,
council
members,
I
am
a
newer
import
to
Asheville,
I
have
lived
in
the
Cleveland
area.
I
lived
in
Utah
I
continue
to
be
so
disappointed
in
the
ways
that
the
criminal
justice
system
is
terrorizing,
especially
our
children,
I
work
with
Children
and
Youth
and
I
spend
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
Council
culture
and
what
that
means
is
when
you,
don't
you
don't
agree
with
something
you
just
say:
I
don't
want
it
anymore.
I
can
cancel
it.
AC
I
get
increasingly
concerned
that
people
use
their
power,
which
is
why
we
need
to
reimagine
a
whole
lot
of
things
in
our
government,
but
we
need
to
understand
that
we
are
modeling
for
our
children
what
it
means
to
work
together,
and
if
someone
and
they're
questioning
is
being
canceled
and
removed,
then
we're
telling
our
children
and
our
youth.
It's
not
okay,
to
question:
it's,
not!
Okay,
that
you
need
to
have
accountability.
AC
Accountability
is
a
key
component
to
growth.
I
hope
that
we,
like
one
of
my
siblings,
said
that
you
are
uncomfortable.
I
have
a
young
man
who
is
19
as
a
son.
The
way
that
he
encounters
the
world
is
in
Terror
whenever
the
police
department
is
around,
and
that
is
not
because
every
police
person
that
he
has
interacted
with
is
negative
or
hateful.
It
is
because
the
the
collective
experience
tells
him
it
is
scary,
and
it's
not
okay,
so
please
reconsider
Kim
Rooney
being
appointed
to
this
Safety
Committee,
because
questions
are
okay
and
transparency
is
necessary.
AC
A
You
and
Stacy
Griffin.
AD
AD
This
evening,
but
as
the
spouse
of
a
APD
officer,
I
feel
it's
important.
We
talk
about
transparency.
We
talk
about
mental
health,
we
talk
about,
don't
cancel
Kim
Rooney,
but
you
know
what
Kim
Rooney
talks
about
canceling
the
police
every
single
time
she
gets
on
that
call
and
I've
been
on
those
I've
watched
them.
AD
Why
we
vote
for
safety?
Vests
is
ridiculous.
In
my
opinion,
that
is
something
that
should
be
a
given.
You
have
health
insurance,
don't
you
that's
a
given.
That's
a
safety
for
them.
Have
you
ever
seen
a
police
funeral?
Have
you
because
I
have
when
the
officer
in
Greenville
was
shot?
He
was
a
friend
of
ours
and
I
watched
his
family
and
I
watched
the
procession
and
I
watched
all
of
those
things,
and
it
was
horrible
and
I.
AD
Don't
ever
want
that
to
happen
to
my
husband
or
anybody
else's
husband
or
family
member,
so
vests
shouldn't
even
that
shouldn't
even
be
a
question
and
I've
watched
her
vote
against
them.
I've
watched
her
vote
against
grants
grants
free
Federal
money
to
help.
You
talk
about
money
and
budgets,
it's
free
money.
She
doesn't
want
that
either.
You
talk
about
Mental
Health.
AD
These
officers
are
working
12
hours
a
day
and
they're
working
14
days
in
a
row
because
they
are
so
understaffed.
Okay,
but
if
they
don't
go
out
there
and
do
it
guess
what?
When
someone
comes
to
break
into
your
house
or
kills
your
family
member
or
something
horrible
happens,
there's
not
going
to
be
anyone
there,
but
you
want
mental
health.
What
about
their
Mental
Health
10
hours
a
day,
12
hours
a
day,
10
15
days
in
a
row?
That's
okay!
You
want
better
policing,
then
pay
them.
AD
What
they're
worth
to
live
in
a
city
that,
quite
frankly,
isn't
worth
a
you
are
based
on
tourism.
Oh
trust,
me
I
tell
my
family
all
the
time!
Please
don't
come
here,
you're
going
to
get
hurt,
I
moved
here!
Eight
years
ago
you
used
to
be
able
to
walk
downtown.
They
had
a
whole
police
department
down
there
that
watched
over
people
and
now
nothing
because
they
can't
afford
to
it's
pretty
sad.
You
argue
about
money
and
trying
you
talk,
transparency
and
talk
about
mental
health
and
all
reimagining.
AD
Okay,
that's
great!
What
are
we
reimagining
for
the
force?
What
are
we
reimagining
for
the
Department?
What
are
we
reimagining
to
help
each
one
of
them
buy
a
house
support
their
families.
Guess
what?
If
you
work
15
days
in
a
row,
12-hour
shifts
yeah,
you're
mentally
burned
out
you
burned
out,
but
with
what
we
paid
them
and
what
we
expected
them.
AD
A
I'm
there's
more
okay,
we're
gonna,
we've
got
two
more
people
signed
up
and
I
think
we're
we're
gonna
complete
our
public
comment
process
here,
so
we've
got
Tyler
Smith
and
then
after
that,
Bernard
I
think
it
says.
West.
AF
I
just
wanted
to
say
more
to
maybe
the
people
back
here
I
feel
like
there's
a
lot
of
frustration
in
this
room,
and
there
are
people
on
both
sides.
I,
don't
agree,
obviously
with
one
side,
but
if,
if
you
are
trying
to
help
Kim
Roney
and
take
the
city
forward,
maybe
think
about
joining
the
DSA
or
starting
a
union
or
having
some
way
to
withhold
your
labor.
AF
So
that
way
you
can
do
something
where
you
build
power
in
your
community
instead
of
go
coming
up
here,
with
no
power
and
just
kind
of
begging
for
people
to
do
what
you
want
so
yeah.
N
My
name
is
Bernard
good
evening.
I,
keep
hearing
this
conversation
I
didn't
plan
on
speaking
tonight,
but
at
least
when
I
was
growing
up.
I
was
told
all
throughout
school
to
be
proactive,
be
proactive,
be
proactive
and
for
some
reason
I
grew
up
and
all
the
adults
now
are
being
reactive,
so
I
keep
hearing.
Let's
spend
money
on
bulletproof
vests.
Let's
do
this.
Let's
do
that,
but
I.
Why
aren't
we
solving
the
the
problems
that
cause
those
things
in
the
first
place
like
I?
N
Don't
something's,
not
meshing
for
me
and
I,
don't
know
if
that's
something
everyone
else
is
missing
as
well,
but
I'm
22,
now
22
years
of
my
life,
adults
have
been
telling
me
to
be
proactive
and
then,
when
I
get
into
a
room
with
adults,
adults
are
telling
me
I'm
wrong
and
that
I
I'm
being
proactive
but
me
being
proactive,
is
wrong.
So
I
I'm,
sorry
something's,
not.
N
I,
don't
know
if
that's
a
problem
in
the
community
or
what
but
I
think
we
should
address
the
things
that
are
happening
there
first
and
for
people
who
are
saying
you
know:
oh
they're
they're
under
staff
they're
underpaid
well,
okay,
so
firefighters
fight
fires,
Medics
deal
with
medical
issues.
So
if
a
cop
needs
to
deal
with
the
homeless
and
people
peeing
on
the
sidewalk
and
also
robbers
and
murder,
I'm
sorry
like,
let's
give
them
one
job,
then
to
stop
crime.
And
then
we
can
have
somebody
else
deal
with
mental
health
issues.
A
AB
L
I
Q
My
name
is
Alex.
My
degree
is
in
criminal.
Q
Grew
up
in
Rutherford
County,
so
a
little
bit
about
me,
I
had
a
hard
time
with
my
family
when
I
was
growing
up
and
when
I
was
in
school
for
criminal
justice.
One
of
my
instructors
was
a
magistrate
and
there
I
met
two
wonderful
lesbian
officers
who
kind
of
took
me
in
so
I
love
officers,
I
love
people
in
law
enforcement,
they're,
some
of
the
kindest
people
that
you'll
ever
meet.
They
don't
do
this
job
for
money.
They
do
it
because
they
have
a
passion
for
their
communities
and
I.
Q
Q
Q
They
can't
because
they're
having
to
react,
because
there
are
so
few
of
them,
so
if
you
think
you're
being
Progressive,
you're,
actually
not
you're
being
regressive
and
the
crime
statistics
show
ads,
crime
is
up
dramatically
and
people
are
like
I
mean
in
real
estate.
There
are
so
many
people
that
do
not
want
to
move
into
the
city
of
Asheville
I'm
selling,
more
homes
in
Henderson,
County
and
Haywood.
County
people
are
looking
outside
of
the
city
because
they
don't
want
to
live
here.
They
don't
trust
that
they're
going
to
be
safe.
Q
A
I'm
gonna
have
to
revisit
the
rules
because
I
don't
think
swearing
or
clappings
allowed,
but
we
just
devolved
during
that,
but
we'll
move
through
the
consent
agenda,
starting
with
H1.
We
have
a
resolution
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
apply
for
and
accept
Grant
funds
from
the
US
Department
of
Justice
for
the
2022
bulletproof
vest
partnership
Grant.
We
already
had
a
motion
and
a
second
all
the
okay.
C
Please
comment:
I
know
that
I'm
asked
to
explain
my
vote.
So
regarding
h,
I
j
k.
Our
city
is
desperate
for
an
appropriate
and
Equitable
quality.
Public
Service
response
disparities
in
our
service
outcomes
are
well
documented,
which
is
why
I've
asked
for
the
city
to
add
to
our
Public
Safety
response,
ensuring
we
send
the
right
person
with
the
right
tools
and
training
during
crises
including
mental
health,
opioid,
poisoning,
intimate
partner,
violence
and
violence,
Interruption
and
prevention.
C
C
There's
an
expectation
anticipation
will
again
have
a
budget
surplus
that
can
be
used
to
meet
the
very
serious
public
safety
issues
in
our
community.
I,
repeat
the
understanding
that
overtime
is
expensive,
so
we
likely
don't
have
the
Surplus
that
the
public
expects
with
so
many
vacancies,
but
we
need
to
be
able
to
inform
and
educate
the
public
on
budget
resources
that
are
available
in
the
last
Public
Safety.
C
As
a
council
member
compel
me
to
continue
to
ask
hard
questions,
though,
I
may
not
be
seated
on
the
environment
and
Safety
Committee.
I
am
committed
to
the
work
of
oversight
and
ensuring
quality,
Equitable
service
outcomes
and
I
hope
that
my
neighbors,
who
care,
regardless
of
whether
they
agree
with
me
on
the
details,
will
stay
committed
to
this
conversation
because
I
think
that
we
care
and
we
can
do
better.
Thank
you.
A
A
K
Guys
want
to
do
it,
I
mean
it's
a
little
confusing
sorry,
just
a
procedural
question,
so
in
the
digging
into
the
documents.
K
You
all
hear
me:
okay,
that's
better
great
sorry,
so
I
was
just
looking
at
the
document,
and
the
contract
for
the
media
is
three
years
for
162.
So
it's
54
000
a
year
I'm
just
curious.
It
says
it's
an
optional
renewal.
Is
that
an
option
for
both
parties?
Yes,
so
in
in
fact
we
have
it's.
Okay,
it's
just
a
simple:
it's
usually
a
contractual
on
both
sides
could
release
themselves.
So
in
effect,
we
have
a
one
year
period
to
look
at
this
I
heard
someone
mention
that
and
I'm
just
sharing
that
perspective.
K
I
will
be
supporting
this
tonight,
but
I
understand
the
frustration
in
the
room.
I
also
want
to
say
what
is
very
clear
to
me
right
now
is
no
matter
what
side
you're
on
or
if
there
are
two
sides
or
four
sides
of
all
these
issues.
One
thing
is
very
clear:
we
all
very
much
care
about
public
safety
and
what
is
happening
so
I
also
requested
to
be
on
that
committee.
K
I
understand
the
frustration
in
the
room
is
that
you're
losing
someone
you
feel
is
transparent,
but
more
people
did
apply
to
be
on
that
committee
and
were
not
appointed
and
or
request
Beyond
and
also
I.
Think
what
I'm
hearing
and
something
I've
said
at
this
diet
several
times
when
we've
brought
public
safety
items
to
consent
or
for
additional
Council
support,
is
that
perhaps
more
of
these
items
that
are
Public
Safety
related
should
come
to
the
entire
Council,
because
I'm
hearing
that
more
people
want
to
be
on
the
committee
to
be.
J
J
K
I'm
physically
on
10
of
these
boards,
I
can't
attend
public
safety
as
well.
I
would
like
to
but
I'm
full
and
I.
Don't
feel
that
I'm
as
fully
engaged
on
all
of
these
items
and
when
they
come
here,
I'm
catching
up
and
I'm,
not
sure.
That's
the
same,
like
I'm
sensing
in
the
room,
the
brevity
is
it's
intense
and
perhaps
that
needs
to
be
a
grander
conversation.
That's
all.
AG
No,
no
I'll
jump
in
hey
folks.
It's
my
first
council
meeting,
so
I'm
thrilled
to
be
here
with
you
all
and
I
am
a
little
nervous,
so
I
prepared
something
to
say
so.
Apologies
as
I
read
from
this,
but
I'll
be
getting
a
hang
of
this
before
no,
we
know
it
so
we've
heard
a
lot
about
Public
Safety
tonight.
I
also
want
to
pause
and
just
make
sure
we
lift
up
something
that
no
one
has
talked
about.
AG
The
fact
that
this
public
safety
and
environment
committee
is
happening
and
for
the
first
time,
Council
Has
Lifted
concerns
about
our
environment
to
a
council
committee
level.
That's
pretty
massive!
That's
very
important
to
the
community
and
I
want
to
thank
my
colleagues
for
acknowledging
my
deep
experience
as
a
National
Environmental
leader
to
ask
me
to
chair
this
committee.
So
I
appreciate
that
I
also
appreciate
y'all's
wisdom
in
not
siloing
the
environment
and
integrating
it
with
Public
Safety
through
this
committee,
because
we
need
to
respond
to
the
climate
emergency.
AG
A
lot
of
what
we
will
experience
will
be
public
emergencies,
where
we're
going
to
need
Public,
Safety
response
in
a
really
meaningful
way
and
I
want
to
talk
specifically
about
what
a
lot
of
what
I've
been
hearing
and
corresponding
with
folks
over
email
and
talking
with
folks,
ahead
of
this
I'm
hearing
a
lot
of
concern
about
accountability
and
transparency,
they
are
Paramount
to
the
success
of
this
Council
committee
and
to
what
we
all
do
around
Public
Safety.
AG
That's
what
this
is
about
right,
that's
what
Public
Safety
is
about,
and
when
we
look
at
the
data
of
who
is
most
impacted
by
violence
and
by
climate
change,
we
see
that
women
of
color
are
our
most
vulnerable
to
me.
The
proposed
committee
centers,
two
of
our
three
women
of
color
and,
in
my
case
myself,
with
the
most
professional
experience
on
the
environment,
to
serve
for
the
next
two
years.
I
think
this
is
a
good
makeup.
AG
I
think
that,
as
Sage
said,
there
were
several
committees
that
I
volunteered
to
be
on
that
I
won't
be
on
I.
Think
that's
just
the
nature
of
this
I.
Don't
think
that
by
losing
when
we
have
a
rotation
like
this,
those
that
are
appointed
are
still
completely
accountable
to
you.
All
and
I
will
be
accountable
to
you
all
and
I
appreciate
everyone
who
came
to
make
comments
tonight.
AG
A
You
so
to
clarify
why
we
do
vote
on
these
they're.
Actually,
relatively
small
contract
amounts
I
believe
it's
because
then
maybe
we
can
have
some
confirmation,
because
anytime
we're
receiving
Grant
funds.
In
this
case
it's
Federal
grant
funds.
We
have
to
vote
to
receive
them,
even
if
they're
small
amounts
of
money.
A
And
we
and
we
try
to
maximize
leveraging
federal
and
state
grants,
not
just
in
public
safety,
but
whether
it's
Transportation
or
whatever
the
project
is
that
we're
trying
to
fund.
We
try
to
take
advantage
of
those
opportunities
because
it
makes
sense
for
folks
who
are
having
to
pay
into
taxes
to
support
our
budget,
which,
if
you
listen
to
our
work
session
earlier
tonight,
you'd
hear
our
budget
is
fairly
tight.
So
so
these
are
good
opportunities
to
receive
funds
for
things
that
we
need.
A
So
so
this
first
item
we
have
does
anyone
else
want
to
speak
on
this?
First
one
H1.
We
have
a
motion.
A
second
did.
You
want
to
say
something:
yes,
I
will
okay
go
ahead.
F
What
I
would
like
to
say
is
I
I
realize
this
is
a
a
very
difficult
decision
that
Council
has
to
make
and
it
basically
I
can
understand
parts
of
both
sides.
F
However,
I
think
we
have
to
take
in
consideration
whenever
we
make
decisions,
it
has
to
be
based
on
what
we're
dealing
for
dealing
with
at
that
particular
time
and,
as
you
know,
right
now,
we're
dealing
with
a
lot
of
challenges
here
in
Asheville
and
unfortunately,
of
course,
reimagining
Public,
Safety
I'm
a
big
Advocate.
We
definitely
need
to
do
something
about
it
and
we
are
doing
things
about
it.
F
We
actually
have
all
kinds
of
of
a
committee:
I
mean
organizations
that
take
care
of
drug
drug
overdoses,
and
we
have
committees
that
take
care
of
the
homeless
and
we're
dealing
with
a
lot
of
these
issues
as
we
speak,
and
basically,
we
have
to
do
both.
F
At
the
same
time,
we
cannot
move
to
one
extreme
or
from
the
other,
and
basically
with
this
particular
situation,
the
mayor
has
been
given
Chief
the
responsibility
of
keeping
the
people
in
the
community
safe
and
that's
the
most
important
thing
that
we
all
need
to
look
at
right
now
and
because
our
Police
Department
is
down
42
percent
and
we
and
right
now
it's
really
hard
to
even
get
people
to
apply
for
the
job
or
even
get
more.
F
We
cannot
afford
to
have
that
number
actually
go
any
lower,
so
basically
I
think
in
this
situation
like
this,
the
mayor
has
made
the
best
decision.
She
feels
at
this
particular
time
for
the
people
in
the
city
and
therefore,
like
I,
said
I
believe
in
transparency,
I
believe
in
everyone
having
a
voice,
but
right
now
these
are
difficult
times
and
trying
times,
and
decisions
may
not
be
the
best
decisions
that
all
of
us
feel
it's
needed
at
that
particular
time.
F
A
A
Okay,
the
second
one
is
H2,
do
I
have
a
motion
for
the
budget
amendment
that
corresponds
with
this
item
in
the
amount
of
20
327.22
from
the
U.S
Department
of
Justice
2022
bulletproof
vest
partnership.
Grant
I
need
a
motion.
I'll
move.
Second,
anybody.
Second,
okay,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
that
was
yeah
all
those
in
favor.
Please
say:
aye.
E
A
A
K
E
A
K
I
have
a
comment:
okay,
is
it
possible
for
this
to
come
back
to
us
in
a
year,
rather
than
it
be
executed
at
a
staff
level.
A
Yes,
thank
you.
We
have
a
motion
a
second
all,
those
in
favor.
Please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed.
No!
Okay.
Do
you
want
a
hands?
Okay,
all
those
in
favor
raise
your
hand.
All
those
opposed
raise
your
hand.
Okay
got
it.
Okay
do
I,
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
resolution
authorizing
acidity
manager
to
renew
a
contract
with
Lexus
Nexus
for
the
accurate
virtual
crime,
Center
crime,
analysis
platform,
okay,
second,
okay,
I
have
a
motion.
A
second
did.
You
get
it
Antonette
G3
for
a.
A
There
are
six
of
those
and
then
also
all
the
boards
and
commissions
that
we
serve
as
Liaisons
too.
All
of
those
appointments
are,
at
my
discretion,
except
three
of
them,
which
are
the
only
three
you
actually
need
to
vote
on
tonight.
So
before
I
get
a
motion
to
appoint
Maggie
Ullman
to
the
mpo
sage,
Turner
to
the
audit
committee
and
Maggie
Allman
to
this
to
CPAC.
Let
me
just
say
a
couple
of
things.
A
So,
when
I
was
first
elected
mayor
in
2013,
I
learned
that
the
mayor
makes
these
appointments.
Well,
I
learned
it
when
I
was
on
Council,
when
Terry
Bellamy
made
these
appointments
to
the
subcommittees
of
council
and
the
liaison
positions
and
the
liaison
positions,
are
it's
really
more
trying
to
get
everyone
to
volunteer
to
take
on
the
duty?
Because
it
is
a
lot
of
time
commitment,
especially
if
you
try
to
go
to
all
of
the
meetings
and
I
appreciate,
councilwoman,
Roney
and
councilwoman
Ullman
are
sharing
actually
some
of
the
environmentally
focused
and
other
committees.
A
So
that's
a
great
compromise,
but
just
so
folks
know
who
are
talking
about
the
concern
around
transparency
and
accountability,
which
is
a
very
real
issue
and
concern,
and
one
that
we're
constantly
working
to
do
better
on.
Please
note
that
Council
subcommittees,
including
the
new
environment
and
Public
Safety
Committee,
make
recommendations
to
the
full
Council.
They
are
not
the
final
stop
for
the
approval
or
denial
of
well.
A
They
may
be
the
final
stop
for
the
dollar,
something,
but
they
for
the
approval
of
something
it
has
to
come
to
this
body,
and
everyone
on
this
Council
can
ask
questions.
Ask
for
data.
Ask
for
information,
ask
for
information
regarding
budget
items,
whatever
information
they
need
to
be
able
to
make
a
decision
one
way
or
another
on
the
items
that
come
to
this
Council,
so
that
process
has
not
changed.
We
created
the
council
subcommittee
concept
years
ago.
It's
not
necessarily
used
in
every
city,
it's
voluntary!
A
It's
something
that
every
city
decides
how
to
do
on
their
own.
We
decided
that
the
topics
were
large
enough
that
we
needed
to
have
the
council
subcommittee
process
for
review
of
items
before
they
got
to
council.
So
that's
the
system
we've
been
using
and
the
after
every
election.
The
mayor
makes
appointments.
I've
been
doing
that
since
I've
been
mayor-
and
this
is
the
this
is
the
first
time
we
actually
posted
it
on
the
agenda
so
that,
but
normally
that
these
are
it's
more
of
an
internal
process.
A
Appointment
process
anyway.
So
I
appreciate,
though,
that
now
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
about
that
and
that
we've
had
that
discussion
it.
It
is
my
decision,
I,
I,
gotta,
say
I
I
I'm
a
little
ruffled
at
the
idea
that
I
need
a
chief
of
police
to
tell
me
what
to
do,
because
that's
not
how
this
works.
A
A
We
are
sharing
that
pain,
so
my
greatest
concern
is
that
the
work
is
getting
done,
that
it
is
transparent,
and
this
Council
has
the
information
it
needs
to
make
decisions,
and
so
that
I
do
consider
how
that
works
internally
with
our
1200,
hopefully
1200,
staff
1200
positions
that
need
to
be
filled
so
that
we
can
all
do
our
work
most
effectively
for
the
community
if
we're
not
functioning
at
our
best
level,
we're
not
serving
the
community
in
our
to
the
best
of
our
ability
and
that's
to
me
not
a
good
outcome
to
me.
A
This
is
not
a
decision
about
what
matters
more
APD,
reimagining
Public
Safety.
That
to
me
is
not
what
this
conversation
about.
It's
about
getting
the
work
done,
I
am
personally
very
focused
and
I
know
this.
This
council
is
very
focused
on
continuing
the
work
around
reimagining
Public
Safety.
We
have
not
taken
our
foot
off
the
gas
pedal
and
that
in
that
goal,
so
please
know
that
the
you
know
these
are
difficult
decisions.
I
I
did
speak
with
councilwoman
Rooney
prior
to
to
tonight
about
this
decision.
We
had
a
discussion
about
it
and.
A
A
We
have
the
longest
consent,
agendas
of
any
city
in
North,
Carolina
I'm
pretty
sure,
but
maybe
that's
a
lesson
for
what
shouldn't
be
on
consent,
but
that
that
brings
us
to
this
moment
where
we
need
a
motion
to
approve
councilwoman
Maggie
Ullman
to
serve
on
the
mpo
councilwoman
Sage
Turner,
who
thank
you
was
willing
to
serve
on
the
audit
committee.
Now.
C
Real
quick,
so
on
our
on
our
agenda,
that's
public
facing
the
MBO
appointment.
K
U
D
Need
yeah
so,
just
as
the
mayor
stated,
the
entire
list
of
appointments-
and
there
are
considerable
appointments,
including
a
list
of
members
who
are
already
on
various
boards
and
commissions,
was
included
on
the
agenda.
So
we
had
full
transparency
about
which
council
members
were
serving
on
the
various
boards
commissions
and
committees.
There
are
two
that
were
pulled
out.
We
certainly
could
have
added
one
additional
one,
which
is
the
appointment
of
council
member
Allman
to
the
mpo,
but
you're
free
to
as
the
mayor
is
done,
make
a
motion
to
Simply.
D
Add
that
that
is
the
only
item
that
is
only
listed
on
the
separate
full
list,
as
opposed
to
the
two
that
were
pulled
off
separately.
So
it
is
on
the
full
agenda.
It
was
just
included
as
part
of
the
full
list
of
appointments
me.
Those
have
already
been
made.
D
A
E
A
A
AE
B
AE
Thank
you
mayor
and
a
good
evening.
Everyone
I'm
going
to
try
to
step
through
this
very
very
quickly.
I
have
a
couple
of
updates
related
to
the
Asheville
Fire
Department
and
unfortunately,
the
first
one
starts
out
with
a
little
a
bit
of
sad
news
for
us.
We
lost
one
of
our
our
heroes
in
the
city
of
Asheville
Family,
particularly
with
the
Asheville
Fire
Department
safety
and
training
Officer
Jeff
Lyons
passed
on
November,
the
16th.
AE
He
served
26
years
with
the
Asheville
Fire
Department
also
served
in
the
U.S
army
and
is
an
Air
Force
veteran
as
as
well
so
what
I'd
like,
if
the
chief
and
I
think
the
deputy
chief
and
we
have
a
number
of
firefighters
that
are
in
the
audience,
if
you
all
could
just
stand,
I
really
want
to
express
both
my
continuing
thoughts
to
the
family
of
Mr
Lyons,
but
also
to
our
afd
employees.
Our
thoughts
are
with
you
continue
to
be
with
you.
Thank
you.
AE
We
need
to
pay
a
lot
of
people.
Fortunately,
the
next
one
is
the
a
bit
of
good
news.
Actually
I'm
understating
this.
It
is
really
really
good
news
for
our
community
and
for
the
Asheville
Fire
Department
and
for
the
city
of
Asheville,
the
insurance
services
office
of
writing.
This
is
something
that
happens
on
a
recurring
basis
and
our
afd
was
awarded
the
highest
fire
suppression
rating
of
a
class
one
by
the
NC
insurance
commission
and
the
State
Fire
Marshal.
Once
every
five
years,
every
aspect
of
a
FD
is
inspected.
AE
This
rating
included
components
of
key
Partners,
Buncombe
County
Emergency,
Management,
Public,
Safety
Communications
and
Water
Resources
Department.
The
key
bullet
up.
AE
There
is
less
than
one
percent
of
all
fire
departments:
Nationwide,
not
just
North
Carolina
have
achieved
this
rating
and
so
I'm
not
going
to
read
the
rest
of
the
bullet
points,
but
just
to
express
what
a
difficult
time
it
is
for
an
agency
to
receive
this
type
of
a
rating
and
I
know
it's
been
in
the
news
about
us
achieving
this,
but
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
and
and
then
to
share
with
city
council
what
an
exceptional
job
our
afd
has
done
over
the
past
five
years
and
obviously
historically
so
again,
we
have
our
if
there
are
any
particular
chief
of
their
office,
firefighters
that
you
want
to
acknowledge.
AE
AE
C
On
there
can
I
ask
a
question:
absolutely
we
just
talked
a
lot
about
the
importance
of
our
fire
department
and
how
they
may
have
actually
resulted
in
their
actions,
result
in
a
cost
savings,
but
for
five
or
six
years
they've
had
to
fight
for
an
advocate
for
greater
wages.
So
I
know
we
talked
about
wage
increases
in
a
compression
study.
Impact
and
I
know
that
we're
expecting
to
see
that
from
a
council
level.
So
when
we
see
a
future
manager
report,
can
we
look
at
that
compensation
and
like
make
sure
that
we're
following
our
obligations?
AH
AH
So,
as
I
mentioned,
the
fiscal
year
runs
July
1
through
June
30th
each
year,
and
this
is
actually
the
first
time
in
approximately
10
years
of
the
city
of
Asheville
has
prepared
an
annual
report.
We
made
a
commitment
back
as
your
March
Retreat
to
provide
more
regular
performance
reporting
to
you
via
the
council
committees,
as
well
as
other
outlets.
So
this
is
a
part
of
that
effort
to
be
more
forthright
and
transparent
in
reporting
the
progress
that
we're
making
in
achieving
your
strategic
priorities.
AH
Fiscal
year,
2122
operations
begin
to
normalize,
as
we
became
more
equipped
to
respond
to
the
ongoing
challenges
associated
with
the
pandemic,
Staffing
shortages
and
increasing
demands
for
City
Services.
This
annual
report
by
no
means
is
comprehensive,
but
it
does
highlight
many
of
the
achievements
and
successes
from
throughout
the
year,
particularly
the
work
that
was
done
to
fulfill
the
city
council's
vision
and
priorities.
AH
Currently,
staff
is
working
hard
to
refine
processes
from
the
prior
fiscal
year
to
further
align
the
work
that
we're
doing
with
your
priority
Direction
in
the
interest
of
time,
I'm
not
going
to
read
through
this
slide,
but
listed
on
the
slider,
your
city
council
Vision,
which
was
which
is
established
in
2016,
along
with
the
eight
Vision
Focus
areas,
which
were
also
established
in
2016
and
then
each
year.
Your
vision
is
reviewed,
along
with
the
establishment
of
your
annualized
strategic
priorities.
AH
So
for
fiscal
year
22
you
had
four
strategic
priorities
identified:
those
included
reparations,
reimagining,
Public,
Safety
utilization
of
arpa
funds
and
employee
compensation,
so
I'm
going
to
briefly
go
through
each
of
those
priority
areas
and
highlight
a
few
of
the
accomplishments
that
we
had
within
each
of
those
prior
priority
areas,
starting
with
preparations.
So
in
July
2020,
the
city
council
passed
a
resolution
being
one
of
the
first
local
governments
in
North
Carolina
to
approve
of
support
for
Community
reparations
for
black
residents.
AH
This
resolution
called
for
the
city
manager
to
establish
a
process
to
develop
recommendations,
focus
on
the
creation
of
gender
generational
wealth
and
enhancing
Economic
Opportunity
in
the
black
community.
Following
that
direction,
the
city
manager
recommended
a
three-phased
approach,
which
included
an
information
sharing
and
truth-telling
focus.
This
occurred
in
June
of
2021
with
the
speaker
series
feedback
received
from
that
speaker.
Series
ultimately
impacted
the
implementation
of
the
next
two
phases.
Next
phase
was
formation
of
a
reparations
Commission
in
March
of
2022,
the
city
council
and
Buncombe
County
Commission
appointed
a
25-member
commission.
AH
AH
So
what's
next
with
reparations
because
of
the
importance
of
the
work
that
the
reparations
commission
is
doing
and
the
importance
of
reparations
in
our
community
at
your
March
16th
and
17th
Retreat,
you
re-adopted
reparations
as
a
strategic
priority
for
the
current
fiscal
year.
The
reparations
commission
is
currently
working
to
develop.
That
report,
which
is
scheduled
currently
for
completion
in
spring
or
summer
of
2024.
The
next
regularly
scheduled
meeting
of
the
reparations
commission
is
January
9th.
AH
The
next
priority
area
I'll
highlight
is
reimagining
Public,
Safety,
reimagining
Public
Safety
examines
how
the
city
of
Asheville
structures
departmental
responsibilities
as
well
as
Community
Partnerships,
in
a
way
that
promotes
racial
equity
and
economic
inclusion.
Examples
of
efforts
in
the
previous
fiscal
year
to
support
reimagining
Public
Safety
include
transferring
animal
control
as
well
as
noise,
ordinance
enforcement
from
APD
to
development
services
department
on
January,
1st,
the
city
and
county
9-1-1
Services
were
Consolidated.
We
also
use
salary
savings
from
APD
to
increase
training
opportunities.
AH
Examples
of
increased
training
opportunities
offered
in
FY
22
include
civility
training,
Crisis
Intervention
training
and
advancing
racial
Equity
training.
We
also
had
the
creation
of
the
office
of
data
and
performance
in
FY
22,
and
this
was
established
to
enhance
the
use
of
data
for
Equitable
outcomes,
accountability
and
communication
moving
forward
with
reimagining
Public
Safety.
Because
of
the
importance
of
this
work,
it
was
yet
again
identified
as
a
strategic
priority
for
fiscal
year.
2223
and
examples
of
important
work.
AH
That's
currently
underway
is
apd's
support
for
intervention
and
community
outreach,
implementation
of
retention
and
recruitment
strategies
which
were
presented
to
you
during
a
recent
city
managers
report
to
help
make
APD
more
competitive
for
maintaining
existing,
as
well
as
recruiting
new
officers
and
then
you've
recently
heard
at
the
Public
Safety
Committee
about
work
that
the
Asheville
Fire
Department
has
underway
collaborate.
Reading
with
Buncombe
County
on
a
community
response
team
that
helps
address
overlapping
Community
needs
related
to
the
unsheltered
behavioral
health,
as
well
as
substance
abuse.
C
Pause
right
there,
because
there's
something
missing
from
that
conversation:
I
did
have
a
request
of
the
Public
Safety
Committee.
Could
we
get
a
side-by-side
comparison
of
what
would
be
the
cost
of
us
doing
our
own
program
versus
Contracting
to
expand
the
County's
program
because
they
already
have
established
training
some,
you
know
rules
of
procedure.
They
already
have
some
equipment,
so
my
understanding
is.
We
might
have
an
opportunity
to
look
at
maybe
having
a
downtown
unit
just
of
community
paramedicine.
C
What
would
that
look
like,
but
we,
if
we
haven't
asked,
then
staff
won't
have
the
instruction
to
start
having
that
conversation.
I
think
that
we
should
have
a
conversation
of
we
already
know:
Transit
we
duplicate
everything.
So
why
would
we
move
into
duplicating
this
when
we've
already
Consolidated
9-1-1?
Can
we
make
sure
we
have
one
streamlined
communication
instead
of
creating
our
own?
That's
my
concern
is
duplication.
A
You
know
I
I,
think
I.
What
I
just
did
a
community
paramedic
ride
along
my
second
one
this
last
week
and
what
I
heard
from
Taylor
the
Emergency
Services
director
and
the
community
paramedic
themselves
was
they're
having
a
challenge
even
Staffing,
up
to
what
they've
now
been
funded,
because
now
they're
off
the
pilot
and
they're
moving
they're
trying
to
expand
their
service
provision
to
and
they're
fully
funded
now
for,
I
think
at
least
two
years
through
the
county
to
expand
what
they're
doing
and
they're
having
the
same
Staffing
challenges.
A
What
I
heard
them
say
to
us
was
great
you're.
You
want
to
utilize
your
staff
to
complement
and
partner
with
us
on
the
our
community
Paramedic
program.
What
would
be
the
best
thing
is,
if
you
could
ask
us
how
that
would
that
compliment
would
best
function.
So,
for
example,
the
night
we
were
out
there
was
a
woman
who
had
she
needed,
wound
care
and
she
just
helping
her
and
then
get
her
situated
in
a
temporary
shelter,
took
one
paramedic,
pretty
much
I,
don't
know
maybe
four
hours
or
five
hours.
A
You
know
those
were
some
of
the
the
the
conversations
that
probably
needed
to
happen
about
since
they've
been
doing
this
now
for
almost
two
years,
they've
learned
a
lot
about,
what's
working,
what's
not
working
and
how
we
could
best
complement.
What
they're
doing
Staffing
is
such
a
challenge
that
it,
it
sounded
to
me
like
throwing
more
money
at
them,
might
not
solve
anything
because
they
can't
even
staff
up
to
what
they've
been
funded
at
yet,
but
but
figuring
out.
AI
Happening
that
conversation
was
had
during
Public
Safety
in
our
last
meeting
when
this
conversation
was
raised,
Taylor
stepped
in
and
said
the
same
thing
that
we
were
trying
to
figure
out
the
scope
of
work
that
our
co-responder
unit
would
do
and
as
we
Define
the
scope
of
our
work,
we'll
ensure
that
we're
not
doing
duplicating
Services
already
rendered
by
Community
paramedics.
So
the
the
committee
already
heard
that
in
Taylor
reiterated
that
that
he
supports
working
alongside.
A
Well
and
I
think
again
complimenting
their
expansion
of
their
program
because
they
do
they
do
say
that
they
spend
a
lot
of
time
in
the
downtown.
We
actually
ended
up
on
a
bunch
of
calls
out
in
the
county,
but
but
they
said
normally
they're
more
in
the
downtown
area.
I
think
they
would
love
to
be
able
to
get
to
that
point
again.
Staffing
issues
to
be
able
to
it's,
just
like
just
like
us,
having
designated
districts
even
for
APD
to
be
able
to
have
it's
the
same
issue.
The
Staffing
issue
not
not
recognize.
A
AE
AH
So,
moving
on
to
the
next
Council
priority
for
fiscal
year,
2022
that
is
utilizing
arpa
funds.
The
federal
government
approved
a
65.1
billion
dollar
American
Rescue
plan
act
program
to
help
communities
recover
from
covid-19.
The
city
of
Asheville
received
26
million
dollars
locally
in
arpa
funding
and
during
fiscal
year
22.
The
city
council
made
important
decisions
on
how
best
to
invest
those
arpa
funds
back
into
the
community.
Projects
were
selected
for
funding
based
on
the
categories
and
criteria
listed
on
the
screen.
18
projects
have
been
funded
to
date
for
a
total
of
24.9
million.
AH
As
the
majority
of
the
city's
26
million
dollars
in
arpa
funding
has
been
allocated,
staff
is
now
working
on
the
implementation
phase.
Staff
is
working
on
reporting
and
working
on
making
sure
that
the
partner
agencies
who
receive
those
arpa
dollars
are
able
to
comply
with
the
federal
requirements
for
these
arpa
funds.
Future
information
about
arpa
funding
will
be
shared
with
the
community
throughout
the
implementation
phase,
using
an
online
dashboard
in
future
presentations
to
the
city
council,
as
well
as
post
to
the
City
Source
blog.
AH
The
fiscal
year
22
operating
budget
also
included
eight
weeks
of
paid
parental
leave,
which
I
am
personally
very
grateful
for,
and
the
city
also
added
two
additional
paid
holidays,
including
Juneteenth
and
Veterans
Day
last
fiscal
year.
So,
on
the
horizon
for
employee
compensation,
the
fiscal
year
23
budget
expanded
employee
compensation
with
the
following
increases.
This
included
an
increase
of
at
least
thirty
five
thousand
three
hundred,
and
sixteen
thousand
dollars
is
an
annual
salary
for
employees,
with
an
additional
adjustment
on
January
of
2023
to
36
816
annually.
AH
An
important
note
since
2020
the
city's
minimum
starting
salary
has
increased
by
18.
So
thank
you
to
all
of
you.
Thank
you
to
the
city
manager
for
her
leadership
in
that
effort.
The
current
fiscal
year
budget
also
included
staff
with
a
five
percent
cost
of
living
adjustment
for
anyone
who
has
hired
on
or
before
December
31st,
or
a
two
and
a
half
percent
increase
for
employees
hired
after
that
date.
AH
Most
recently,
the
human
resources
staff
did
conduct
a
compression
study
and
compression
adjustments
actually
went
into
effect
on
November
26th,
a
special
thanks
to
our
human
resources
staff
for
the
work
that
they
did.
They
actually
conducted
that
work
more
quickly
than
they
had
originally
anticipated
because
we
did
want
to
have
those
increases
for
impacted
employees
reflected
on
their
paycheck
prior
to
the
holidays,
ongoing
for
fiscal
year
23.
AH
I
want
to
also
highlight
a
few
key
statistics
related
to
core
services
that
we
provide
across
the
city
that
aren't
necessarily
aligned
with
the
priorities
that
were
established
for
fiscal
year.
2022.
I
want
to
highlight
that
calls
for
Police
Service
were
actually
down
in
fiscal
year
2022
and
in
conversations
with
Police
Department
staff.
A
lot
of
that
is
a
result.
We
Believe
of
increased
usage
of
the
online
police
to
Citizen
platform
for
reporting
non-emergency
matters
online,
rather
than
having
to
make
those
calls
for
service.
AH
Transit
ridership
was
down
in
fiscal
year,
22
likely
because
of
service
Cuts
in
the
spring
and
summer,
resulting
in
labor
shortages,
I
confirmed
with
Jessica
Morris
today
that,
as
of
November
1st,
all
of
the
routes
that
were
cut
have
been
re-established.
So
we
hope
to
see
an
uptick
in
fiscal
year
23
in
those
numbers
in
the
spirit
of
kind
of
responding
to
and
having
that
new
normal
in
the
pandemic.
There
was
actually
a
65
percent
increase
in
unique
program:
participants
for
Parks
and
Recreation
programming
in
fiscal
year,
22.
AH
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
all
these
I
know
it's
already
been
a
long
evening,
but
we
do
have
a
few
other
notable
accomplishments
that
we
wanted
to
highlight.
1.5
million
people
participated
in
programs
and
attended
events
at
City
facilities.
Last
fiscal
year
over
26
000
linear
feet
of
water
pipes
were
replaced.
AH
We
generated
214.32
megawatt
hours
of
renewable
energy,
reducing
152
metric
tons
of
carbon
dioxide
equivalent.
We
also
implemented
the
new
neighborhood
matching
grant
program
where
13
neighborhood
neighborhoods
were
awarded
a
total
of
sixty
thousand
nine
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
and
using
the
different
Tools
in
our
affordable
housing
toolkit.
We
funded
an
additional
257,
affordable
housing
units
in
fiscal
year
2022.,
so
staff
is
working
really
hard
to
better
align
the
work
that
we're
doing
with
your
strategic
priorities
and,
ultimately,
your
vision
and
the
way
we
are
communicating
across
the
organization.
AH
Why
we
do
what
we
do
is
ultimately
the
City
council's
Vision,
as
well
as
your
strategic
priorities.
What
we're
doing
is
organized
by
the
city
council
committee
work
plans
which
you've
all
adopted
and
will
be
working
on
refining
with
the
establishment
of
the
new
Council
committee
structure.
We
have
a
more
operationally
focused
organizational
work
plan
and
then,
at
the
departmental
level,
we
have
departmental
work
plans
which
department
directors
who
are
listening,
they're
due
December
16th,
so
please
remember
to
get
them
submitted
and
then
how
we
do.
AH
What
we
do
is
what
we
call
our
project
management
framework,
and
this
is
really
implementing
project
management,
best
practices
for
all
of
the
work
that
we
do
across
the
organization,
including
having
really
intentional
stakeholder
engagement,
having
clearly
defined
scopes
of
work
for
the
projects
that
we're
working
on
and
making
sure
that
we
have
sign
off
at
necessary
levels
of
leadership
before
implementing
work.
But
our
goal
ultimately
is
to
make
sure
that
every
single
individual
employee
can
tie
the
work
that
they're
doing
back
to
the
priorities
that
you've
established
as
a
council.
AH
So
the
way
this
cycle
is
going
to
work
and
we're
working
closely
with
Taylor
and
Tony
on
how
better
to
integrate
these
processes
is
Council
sets
their
broad
vision
for
the
city,
where
staff
should
focus
efforts
and
improve
or
expand
Services
then,
via
the
budget
process,
resources
are
allocated
to
achieve
those
stated
goals
through
work
plan.
Development
staff
then
identifies
how
to
best
achieve
those
goals
with
the
allocated
resources
and
then
throughout
the
year,
including
with
the
annual
report.
AH
AH
That's
part
of
what
that
move
of
the
odac
team
to
the
finance,
as
well
as
budget
division,
hopefully
we'll
achieve
with
having
not
just
an
annual
report
but
having
online
dashboards,
more
readily
accessible
information
and
being
more
intentional,
with
how
we
structure
our
reports
at
the
city
council
level,
as
well
as
at
the
council
committee
level,
to
make
sure
that
you
can
see
how
the
work
that
we
are
doing
ultimately
is
helping
impact
that
priority
direction.
That
we've
gotten
from
you.
That
I
will
gladly
answer
any
questions.
And
that
concludes
our
annual
report
overview.
AH
Sure
it's
available
online
under
government.
It
actually
just
got
loaded
so
I'm
gonna
not
want
to
quote
exactly
where
it
is.
But
if
you
Google
annual
report
a
city
of
Asheville,
it
should
pop
up,
and
it
is
definitely
under
the
government
section
I
know
you
have
to
scroll
about
three
quarters
of
the
way
down
the
page,
but
other
than
that
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
quote
exactly
how
to
access
it.
AG
I
I
have
a
question:
you'd
mentioned
that
you've
talked
to
transportation
and
that
can
you
just
go
in
a
little
more
depth.
You
did
a
quick
note,
there's
so
much
awesome
stuff
here,
but
that
we
had.
We
had
pulled
back
on
Transit
routes
and
now
they're
fully
staffed,
and
we
are
back
up
to
running
what
we
had
been.
Can
you
tell
me
more
about
what's
going
on
with
that.
AH
So
that's
the
level
of
detail.
I
have
I,
believe
Jessica
is
here,
and
so
Jessica
can
certainly
provide
more
specificity
around
the.
What
was
re-established
on
November
1st,
with
the
service
levels
from
our
Transit
contractor.
AJ
Good
evening,
so
we
had
to
cut
the
frequency
of
two
routes.
One
was
the
S5
I
think
and
one
was
the
we1
or
I'm,
sorry,
the
N3
and
the
we1,
and
that
was
due
to
driver
shortages.
So
we
have
gotten
back
to
a
comfortable
point
of
having
enough
drivers
to
where
we
were
able
to
re-establish
both
of
those
routes
to
full
service.
AJ
K
A
AJ
About
this,
yes,
thank
you.
This
is
a
very
straightforward
right
of
way.
Closure
request,
Buncombe,
County,
Rescue
Squad
is
the
applicant
for
this
request.
They
own
a
property
at
77,
Hansel
Avenue,
and
this
is
actually
a
request
related
to
rectifying
an
error
on
the
original
plat
that
shows
Clayton
Avenue
in
a
different,
slightly
different
location
than
it
actually
is.
So
really.
What
this
request
is
is
to
rectify
that.
AJ
For
the
applicant
there
are
no
utility
conflicts
or
future
Transportation
uses
of
this
right-of-way,
and
this
is
a
graphic
of
the
closure
you
can
see
where
Clayton
Avenue
is
in
the
real
world
and
where
it
had
it
on.
The
plat
is
not
actually
where
it's
where
it's
supposed
to
be.
So
we
are
closing
this
right-of-way
and
that,
therefore,
that
area
will
become
part
of
the
parcel,
and
this
is
this
is
looking
to
the
East,
and
you
can
see.
A
C
A
All
right,
we
have
a
motion,
a
second
all,
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
aye
any
opposed.
Okay!
Thank
you!
Jessica!
All
right.
Next,
we've
got
Tony
talking
to
us
on
a
public
hearing
on
issuance
of
not
to
exceed
26
million
dollars
in
general
obligation,
refunding
bonds.
Tony
explain
to
us
what
we're
doing
here.
D
AK
So
again,
there'll
be
a
public
hearing,
followed
by
Council
action
on
the
issuance
of
our
2023
General
obligation,
refunding
bonds,
and
so
it's
actually
a
timely
agenda
item
tonight,
ties
into
the
council
work
session.
We
had
earlier.
We
discussed
the
city's
process
around
issuing
debt
and
how
we
typically
issue
short-term
bank
loans.
As
we
begin
projects
and
as
we
spend
more
money,
we
convert
that
short-term
bank
loan
into
a
long-term
debt
financing
and
that's
what
we're
here
to
do
tonight
to
statutorily
required
step
by
the
local
government.
AK
Commission,
the
the
on
you
all
are
issuing
tonight
are
in
association
with
the
74
Million
Dollar
General
obligation,
Bond
referendum,
that
was
approved
by
voters
in
November
of
2016..
The
city
took
out
a
short-term
three-year
bank
loan
in
the
amount
of
25
million
dollars
in
2020
that
bank
loan
is
coming
due
in
June
of
2023,
and
so
in
order
to
stay
on
schedule
to
refund
that
short-term
bank
loan
and
turn
this
into
a
long-term
debt
financing.
AK
We're
asking
Council
to
take
action
tonight,
we'll
go
from
here
to
the
local
government
Commission
in
January,
where
hopefully
they
will
approve
the
debt
issuance
as
well,
and
then
in
February,
we'll
go
out
to
the
to
the
markets
and
sell
this
debt
so
happy
to
answer
any
questions
or
turn
it
back
over
to
the
mayor
for
the
public
hearing.
A
Okay,
we
don't
have
anyone
to
sign
up
to
speak
on
this.
All
open
and
close.
The
public
hearing
do
I,
have
questions
comments
or
a
motion
to
approve,
be
one
consideration
of
adopting
a
bond
order
authorizing
issue
instead
of
not
to
exceed
26
million
General
obligation
refunding
bonds
of
the
city
of
Asheville
North
Carolina,
I'll
move
I'll.
Second,
all
right.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
all,
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed.
A
Okay,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed
all
right.
Thank
you,
okay
and
then
last
our
public
hearing
agenda
as
a
public
hearing
to
consider
amending
will
do
you
need
me
to
talk
slowly.
I
know
he's
listening
from
some
other
room.
Will
Palmquist
paging
will
Palmquist
public
hearing
to
consider
amending
the
conditional
zoning
ordinance
ordinance
number
4625
for
property
located
at
175
Lyman
Street
from
mixed-use
expansion,
slash
conditional
Zone
to
commercial
expansion,
slash
conditional
Zone.
AK
A
A
A
A
Yeah
once
you
open
it
I
think
something
yeah
yeah.
Should
we
go
ahead?
Okay,
hey
we're
gonna
start
taking
public
comment
for
folks
signed
up
at
the
end
of
the
agenda,
so
the
first
person
signed
up
to
speak.
There
is
Paul,
Howell
and
Mr.
Howell
has
folks
seeding
their
time
to
him
to
speak,
which
means
the
people
seeing
their
time.
Don't
get
to
speak
so
you're
seating
to
Mr
Hall,
which
means
he
has
10
minutes
to
speak
on
Maggie
will
get
you
ready.
AL
Okay,
let's
pull
back
the
blinds
and
take
a
closer
look
at
this
little
Edge
selection.
Commit
y'all
must
first
understand
that
John
Stillman
met
with
Thomas
Boyd
CEO
of
top,
which
is
true.
Opportunist
promotions
about
bringing
Juneteenth
downtown
for
the
city,
told
him
to
get
a
non-profit
to
be
his
faith,
and
he
would
be
good
to
go
from
day.
AL
One
John
was
talking
business
with
a
businessman
who
maintained
his
stance
as
a
businessman
throughout
the
event
to
his
completion
after
acquiring
the
ymi
as
his
face
and
members
of
joa
Community
Committee
to
assist
in
producing
planning
and
executing
the
event.
It
was
made
clear
to
the
members
of
the
committee,
which
I
am
more
that
Thomas
was
operating
as
a
businessman
outside
of
the
committee.
He
was
representing
top
and
would
pay
us
for
our
services.
AL
There
was
an
issue
that
Thomas
had
with
John
about
the
wording
in
the
contract.
John
had
drawn
up,
which
stated
that
the
city
were
looking
for
someone
to
come
in
and
plan
and
produce
and
execute
a
city-owned
event
which
wasn't
flying
with
Thomas.
So
Thomas
stated
that
the
city
doesn't
own
Juneteenth,
the
community
does,
and
he
wasn't
going
forward
until
he
spoke
with
the
mayor,
will
enter
city
manager,
Deborah
Campbell
and
City
attorney
Brad
Brenner,
Auntie
John.
This
may
in
Chagrin.
AL
AL
AL
That
isn't
one,
whereas
the
partnership
with
joa
Community
Committee,
there
isn't
one
we
couldn't
John
couldn't
offer
a
partnership
to
us,
because
he
we
weren't
at
the
Forefront
top
was
at
the
Forefront.
AL
Yet
you
could
get
the
best
of
them,
so
the
selection
committee
was
for
what
were
the
qualifications
to
be
on
this
committee
other
than
being
on
a
city,
staff
or
city
committee?
A
city
commission
already
I
mean
because
the
invitation
to
join
the
committee
post
it
not
on
the
regular
page
with
all
the
other
committees.
AL
AL
AL
Committee,
so
you
end
up
getting
up
all
this
information
for
us
that
we
didn't
share.
Thank
you
with
the
equity
commission
and
you're
gonna
help
us
and
you
ain't
help
us
out.
Y'all
use
that
against
us
and
you
crapped
on
us
to
get
us
out
of
the
way
laughs
well
anyway,
by
saying
in
front
of
in
front
of
these
men
and
somebody
from
a
genius.
The
end
of
the
genius
on
the
land
in
the
dark
said
often
was
nothing
but
people
selling
hot
dogs
and
a
rap
concert.
AL
I
guess
you
didn't
hear
Miss
Simmons
when
she
spoke
on
the
history
of
Juneteenth
or
Dr
Randall
Johnson.
He
spoke
on
the
Investments
made
in
medical
advancements,
physical
and
mental
medical
advancement.
Well,
he
didn't
hear
a
change
agent.
Phillip
Cooper
speak
on
the
restoration
after
addiction
and
incarceration
Brittany
Bentley
spoke
on
credit
repair
and
traps
also,
she
invited
everyone
that
chose
to
give
her
a
call
for
a
free
consultation
and
surely
as
loud
as
I
hoped
Michael
Hayes
was
I,
don't
know
how
he
missed
the
knowledge
he
dropped
an
entire
event.
AL
These
proposals
in
this
portal
is
another
joke,
because
one
from
one
poem
states
that
they
were
accepting
applications
from
non-profits
to
plan
produce
and
execute
the
event.
Yet
the
form
we
were
sending
in
was
the
contract
with
a
non-profit
to
develop,
manage
and
execute
the
event.
This
stole
our
internet,
our
proposal
into
the
portal,
because
John
went
after
our
call
to
tell
us
what
was
up
this
form.
AL
AL
K
AL
Why
would
and
what
would
a
selection
committee
be
needed
for
to
approve
who
a
non-profit
chooses
to
work
with
that?
Don't
make
no
sense
too
many
things
only
had
nothing
I
mean
it's
one
thing
that
post
and
say
that
y'all
are
holding
requests
for
proposals
from
non-profits
to
Magic
and
then
another
thing
to
get
somebody
a
form
and
haven't
sent
in
saying
that
they
want
a
contract
with
the
non-profit.
AL
AL
AL
It
means
freedom,
freedom
of
expansion,
especially
from
all
that
our
ancestors
were
prohibited
and
restricted
from
enjoying,
while
in
servitude,
expansion
and
Reading
Writing,
teaching,
building
and
living
in
their
own
homes,
owning
their
own
business,
earning
wages
for
their
own
work
and
their
goods,
freedom
of
movement
no
longer
having
family
separated
and
so
yet
to
enjoy
the
freedom
of
expansion,
while
underconfident
attack
from
those
that
didn't
recognize
nor
respect
their
freedom
just
said
it
still
is
today.
Let
me
continue
to
move
forward.
AL
A
A
Okay,
I
I,
so
now
we're
going
to
shift
back
to
finish
our
public
hearings
and
we
we
see
that
will
is
here.
A
AE
AM
Members
Council
will
fondquist
for
planning
an
Urban
Design
Department
I'll
be
presenting
this
conditional
zoning
request
for
the
project
known
as
Woodfield
stone
yard,
which
is
an
amendment
to
an
existing
conditional
zoning
located
at
175
Lyman
Street.
Here
you
can
see
the
location
of
the
site
at
the
corners
of
Lyman
Street.
This
area
is
a
little
aerial.
Imagery
is
a
little
outdated,
but
it
shows
the
site
that
is
currently
vacant.
The
former
Carolina
colonized
building
has
been
demolished.
AM
The
radtip
transportation
Improvement
project
has
been
completed,
as
well
as
the
Wilma
dikeman
Greenway,
which
is
located
along
the
river,
and
then
this
chart
just
compares
the
previously
approved
conditional
zoning
from
2017
on
the
in
the
middle
column,
to
the
proposed
project
on
the
right.
You
kind
of
get
a
sense
of
what
was
previously
approved.
First,
what
the
amendment
would
approve
with
the
new
zoning,
which
would
be
commercial
expansion,
conditional
Zone
due
to
the
size
of
the
project
being
more
than
50
residential
units.
AM
You
can
see
it's
almost
a
doubling
of
the
number
of
residential
units
additional
parking
spaces,
including
bicycle
parking
and
similar
similar
height
and
impervious
surface
between
the
previously
approved
project
and
the
proposed
project.
AM
Deck
is
off
of
both
both
sides
of
Lyman
Street
at
the
north
of
the
site
and
then
to
the
West.
There's
also
loading
and
move-in
access
area
to
the
building
just
to
the
south
of
that
parking
garage
entrance
as
well.
No
new
sidewalks
are
proposed
for
this
project
you
can
see
outlined,
and
this
red
is
the
existing
sidewalk,
which
is
about
kind
of
varies,
but
a
minimum
five
feet
wide
and
that
was
completed
just
a
few
years
ago
as
part
of
the
rad
tip
project.
So
the
sidewalks
in
the
area
are
already
very
new.
AM
A
landscape
plan
includes
required
landscape
elements
such
as
Street
trees
and
parking
garage
screening,
as
well
as
the
tree
canopy
preservation
standards,
which
are
going
to
be
met
through
a
combination
of
new
tree
plantings
and
payment
and
fee
of
Lou.
There
are
no
open
space
requirements
in
the
the
rad
River
sewing
District,
which
is
what
this
project
also
conforms
to
per
the
code
in
the
commercial
expansion
districts.
AM
So
then,
I'm
actually
just
a
couple
of
perspectives
of
the
project
site
in
the
proposed
building.
This
one
is
looking
South
East
from
the
French
Broad
River.
AM
You
can
kind
of
see
that
courtyard
feature
and
then
the
north
facade,
where
those
retail
Studio
spaces
would
be
located,
and
then
some
recessed
areas
of
the
building,
such
as
this
upper
level
Courtyard
as
well,
and
then,
if
you're,
looking
down
Lyman
Street
kind
of
heading
towards
the
river
and
that
and
that
recently
constructed
roundabout
to
give
a
view
of
the
north
elevation
of
the
building,
with
some
suggested
design
features
like
a
potential,
mural
and
other
other
balconies
and
other
features
such
as
that.
AM
One
of
the
a
minimum
of
one
of
the
commercial
spaces
will
be
made
available
at
below
market
rate
in
perpetuity
and
85
percent
80
parking
spaces
total
will
be
available
for
public
use
and
there
are
a
number
of
technical
modifications
being
sought
through
the
conditional
zoning
process,
which
mostly
relate
to
the
layout
and
design
of
the
building.
This
includes
a
height
both
number
of
stories
and
feet
in
excess.
The
maximum
height
allowed
in
the
rad
River
District
of
four
stories
and
55
feet:
a
reduction
of
the
setback
along
the
northern
Lyman
Street
to
four
feet.
AM
Instead
of
the
required
15
feet,
impervious
surface
totaling,
85
percent
in
excess
of
the
maximum
eighty
percent
standard,
no
new
sidewalks
being
proposed,
where
typically
an
eight
foot
wide
sidewalk
was
six
foot
wide
planting
strip
would
be
required
and
then
a
couple
Design
Elements,
building
design
requirements
that
are
in
the
rad
River
District,
such
as
that
the
pedestrian
entrance
spacing,
is
in
excess
of
the
maximum
50
feet
on
both
both
the
primary
elevations
facing
Lyman
Street,
and
then
also
that
the
street
facing
facade
length
is
in
excess
of
the
200
feet.
AM
Maximum
for
both
both
of
those
elevations
as
well,
the
project
was
approved
with
conditions
by
the
technical
Review
Committee.
It
was
reviewed
informally
by
the
Asheville
area,
Riverfront
Redevelopment
commission,
where
the
project
received
overall
supportive
overall
support
with
some
comments,
given
it
was
formally
reviewed
by
the
design
Review
Committee,
as
the
project
is
located
in
the
riverfront
design
overlay
District,
where
it
was
approved
with
conditions
relating
to
the
design
of
the
project.
AM
One
of
those
conditions
was
that
the
project
returned
to
the
DRC
for
an
informal
review,
which
happened
at
the
next
meeting,
where
the
DRC
kind
of
confirmed
that
those
approved
conditional
elements
of
the
project
had
been
met,
and
then
also
the
project
was
approved
by
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
at
its
November
2nd
meeting,
with
the
condition
that
a
minimum
of
one
of
the
commercial
spaces
be
made
available
at
below
market
rate
and
perpetuity
which
the
applicant
agreed
to
regarding
the
Project's
compliance
with
the
living
Asheville
comprehensive
plan,
it
is
consistent
with
the
future
land
use
category
category
of
traditional
Corridor.
AM
Furthermore,
the
project
also
supports
the
overall
character
described
in
the
Wilma
dikeman
Riverway
master
plan
regarding
the
river
Arts
District,
which
is
seen
as
a
thriving
mixed-use
District,
where
Artisans
and
those
interested
in
living
along
the
river
can
work
and
live
Steph
and
kurs
with
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
to
represents
approval
of
the
proposed
conditional
zoning.
That
concludes
my
presentation
under
by
the
answer.
Any
questions.
You
also
have
representatives
of
the
project
with
us
here
this
evening.
K
Can
I
ask
you
a
technical
question?
Yes,
yes,
it's
over
here,
Sage
thanks!
Sorry,
thank
you
will
so
the
list
of
technical
modifications
a
couple
slides
back.
K
This
is
a
kind
of
a
long
list,
but
it
seems
to
me
the
sixth
story,
the
story
height,
the
pedestrian
entrance,
these
last
few.
In
the
end,
there
is
this
all
related
to
what
I
understand,
I
heard,
I
think
in
a
design
review
meeting.
Originally
that's
a
pro
approved.
This
was
a
one-story
Parking
Deck,
the
flood
levels
have
changed
or
something
and
I
think
they
had
to
go
up.
Another
story
like
this
is
all
related
to
two
stories
of
parking
right.
AM
Yeah,
a
lot
of
this
is
driven
by
the
design
of
the
building
which
I
should
have
mentioned
is
located
in
a
100
year.
Flood
plain,
so
the
habitable
floors
of
the
building
have
to
be
out
of
that
floodplain
area,
so
The
Logical
design
is
to
have
the
building
and
those
units
on
top
of
structured
parking,
which
is
what
the
proposal
is
did.
AM
I
believe
that
is
accurate,
I
know
they
remap
those
regularly
and
I
think
some
changes
had
been
made
to
the
mapping
of
the
floodplain
that
affected
the
design.
I,
don't
know
to
what
extent
it
drove
the
design
to
change
substantially.
AM
I
know
we
have
the
civil
engineer
with
us
tonight.
You
can
probably
speak
more
through
that
to
that
as
well.
Okay,
I
believe
that
is
correct.
AM
That
was
not
explicitly
discussed.
I
know
the
topic
of
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
came
up
throughout
the
meeting,
and
the
project
is,
is
prepared
to
be
able
to
expand
the
number
of
recharge
stations
for
vehicles,
but
I'm,
not
aware
of
solar
panel
kind
of
either
installation
or
the
ability
to
do
that
in
the
future.
At
this
point,
thank.
C
You
I
think
we
are
going
to
have
to
probably
start
to
expect
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
because
I'm
seeing
all
these
articles
about
how
electric
vehicles
are
being
plugged
in
across
sidewalks
and
it
becomes
an
ADA
issue
and
also
a
mobility
issue
and
a
land
use
issue.
We
don't
want
to
have
a
bunch
of
plans
for
places
to
not
only
start
cars,
but
also
to
store
electric
cables
tree
fee
and
Lou.
Do
we
have
in
place
a
tree
fee
and
Lou
plan
so
that
we
can
actually
use
that
fee
to
plant
trees.
D
Hop
Imran
we
do
to
a
certain
degree.
The
trifian
Liu
is
specifically
incorporated
as
part
of
the
tree
save
ordinance,
which
Council
adopted
some
time
ago.
As
part
of
that
ordinance,
there
is
also
a
designation
of
dependent
upon
where
the
tree
fan
Lewis
is
incurred.
What
part
of
the
city?
The
requirement
is
that
those
funds
collected
are
utilized
back
in
that
same
district
I,
believe,
is
the
designation
we
use,
which
just
defines
a
geographical
portion
of
the
city
for
new
plantings,
new
tree
plantings
within
that
particular
District.
D
D
Yeah
I
can't
recall
exactly
where
the
geographic
districts
are
and
where
this
one
would
fall
into,
but
certainly
that
is
defined
within
our
ordinance
and
I
know.
We
have
those
issues
throughout
the
city:
okay,.
C
And
my
last
one
is
this:
I
appreciate
the
on-site
storm
water
mitigation
working
with
neighbors
to
address
public
benefits
like
public
parking,
we've
gotten
a
letter
of
support
from
local
business
around
that,
but
also
local
business
invitation
for
commercial
space.
Honestly
I'm
just
glad
to
see
it's
housing
and
not
a
lodging
use,
though
there
is
issue
around
the
affordability.
If
that
is
actually
the
case,
so
this
site
is
three
tenths
of
a
mile
from
a
Transit
stop
and
the
river
Arts
District
radtip
Corridor,
so
I'm
curious.
C
If
more
affiliate
ability,
affordability
might
have
been
allowed
if
we
had
gotten
to
that
height
density
which
isn't
taken
advantage
of.
But
more
importantly,
is
it
possible
that
this
is
going
to
be
short-term
rentals?
Is
it
restricted
in
any
way,
and
would
we
be
able
to
ask
for
deed
restrictions
for
it
to
not
be
short-term
rentals?
So
it's
not
ultimately
a
lodging
use.
D
To
answer
your
first
question:
there
are
currently
restrictions
on
the
ordinance
books
that
would
prevent
this
or
any
new
development
of
this
size
or
at
all
residential
development
from
becoming
whole
home
short-term
rental.
We
do,
as
you
know,
allow
for
Homestay
permits
to
be
issued
within
the
city,
but
in
terms
of
whole
home
rental.
There.
The
prohibition
in
this
particular
zoning
district
is
in
place,
and
it
would
already
apply
to
this
particular
development
without
any
new
action
by
the
city
or
Council.
A
Just
while
we're
on
the
broader
topic,
I'm
hopeful
and
we'll
probably
talk
about
this
more
at
our
Retreat-
that
we
can
move
towards
a
multi-family
housing
process
that
includes
a
community
benefits
table
to
create
a
buy
right
process
like
we
did
for
our
hotel
ordinance.
That
includes
a
lot
of
these
items
that
we're
talking
about
here
tonight,
so
that
we
can
create
expectations
up
front
about
what
we'd
like
to
see
through
a
community
benefits
table
and
then
create
a
more
efficient
way
to
move
multi-family
through
that
process.
A
I
mean
right
now.
What
we're
doing
is
we're.
You
know
this
system
does
allow
us
to
kind
of
take
other
things
into
consideration.
For
example,
this
project
has
a
whole
bunch
of
public
parking
and
we
need
public
parking
in
the
rad,
so
so
that's
a
benefit
that
another
project
might
not
bring,
but
we
might
not
need
so
I.
You
know
there's
pros
and
cons,
but
I'm
hopeful,
we'll
move
towards
a
community
benefit
concept
for
multi-family
housing.
Are
you
about
to
tell
me
how
long
it's
going
to
take
so.
K
We
can
do
it
pretty
quickly,
a
while
I
agree
and
it's
a
great
segue
to
what
I
was
going
to
comment
on
I
reached
out
to
the
development
team.
We
had
a
discussion
about
this
and
I
encourage
them
to
look
at
the
hotel
moratorium
or
the
hotel,
overlays
Community
benefits
table,
because
I
sense
that
that
is
what
I'm
hearing
we're
going
to
be
trying
to
shift
into
that
kind
of
approach,
and
when
I
looked
at
that
table
myself
and
did
the
math
I
mean
I'm.
K
The
riverfront
commission
liaison
I'm
I'm
talk
about
the
river
a
lot
and
time
and
time
again
the
biggest
need
right
now
has
been
parking
so
I.
You
know
we
don't
have
this
table
to
look
at
now
and
if
we
did
for
housing,
parking
might
be
on
it.
Some
of
these
better
Community
benefits
so
I'm
personally
uncomfortable
with
the
five
percent.
Affordability
I've,
never
supported
something
with
such
a
small
percentage
of
affordability,
but
we
also
can't
require
it.
K
The
more
we'll
see
projects
like
this
that
have
been
touching
on
some
of
the
things
we
need
and
I
want
to
share
too
that
this
has
not
happened
before,
but
everyone
I
talk
to
about
this
project,
neighbors
business
associations,
nearby
businesses,
all
shared
a
common
sentiment
that
they
were
able
to
reach
out
to
this
developer
and
be
able
to
talk
with
them,
share
their
concerns
and
get
some
ideas
and
stuff
on
the
table
which
I
thought
was
kudos
to
the
development
team.
K
I,
don't
know
that
we've
had
them
develop
in
our
community
before,
but
it
made
me
also
want
to
push
a
little
more
and
something
has
been
bothering
me
of
late.
That
is
very
anecdotal.
We
don't
have
data
to
support
this
so
I'll
just
start
with
that.
K
I'm,
a
housing,
Advocate
I
believe
we
have
a
shortage
of
Supply
I,
believe
some
of
our
affordability
issues
are
tied
to
that
lack
of
Supply.
It's
not
the
only
reason
we
have
a
affordability
crisis,
but
it's
one
of
them,
so
I'm
inclined
to
support
these
large
projects
where
my
concern
is
starting
to
brew.
K
K
It's
not
a
tool
in
our
toolbox,
but
when
I
see
and
hear
that
some
development
teams
are
meeting
with
community
members
and
feeling
in
businesses
and
nearby
are
feeling
heard,
I
want
to
encourage
those
types
of
developers
to
try
some
new
ways
to
some
Grassroots
ways.
Maybe
before
you
go
leasing
nationally
or
putting
up
a
website
that
coming
soon
in
Asheville,
is
this
beautiful
new
complex
on
the
river?
Maybe
we
have
meetings
locally.
K
Maybe
we
have
Partnerships
with
housing
agencies
or
something
that
we
can
do
to
help
get
the
people
in
Asheville
that
are
desperate
for
housing
into
these
places
before
they're,
Californians
and
Texans,
and
no
offense.
That's
where
you
moved
from,
but
my
point
is
I'm
just
getting
concerned
as
much
as
we
build
if
80
of
them
are
going
to
folks.
That
aren't
you
know
already
here.
Are
we
creating
a
problem,
and
part
of
this
is
why
we're
also
looking
at
missing
middle
like
this
is
a
big
complex.
K
I
made
sure
to
talk
with
legal
before
this
before
I
missed
that
because
I,
don't
you
know
we,
we
are
restricted
in
these
things.
I
can't
say
to
this
developer.
I
need
I,
need
our
locals
here
and
please
do
it.
We
can't
contract
that.
So
it's
more
of
an
encouragement
and
a
conversation
I
think
this
community
should
start
having
in
what
ways
we
can
be
creative
to
resolve
that
yep.
E
K
A
AM
A
Okay,
so
does,
if
anyone
has
any
other
questions
for
will
right
now,
just
ask
them.
Otherwise
we.
D
D
There
there
was
one
vote
that
felt
uncomfortable
with
the
affordability.
Yes,.
F
A
AN
Well,
vice
mayor,
my
name
is
Brian
Schick
with
Woodfield
development.
This
would
be
our
second
project
in
Asheville
we're
pushing
20
years
in
North
Carolina
as
a
developer.
This,
actually
is
our
sec
would
be
our
second
project
in
the
river
architecture
as
well,
but
to
get
specific
to
that
before,
I
make
some
brief
overview
remarks
and
introduce
our
design
team.
That's
here.
AN
There
are
quite
a
number,
as
you
know,
fair
housing
laws
that
are
on
the
books,
federally
that
came
into
existence
for
very
good
reasons
in
the
1960s.
So
we
are
very
keenly
aware
of
those
and
follows
to
the
letter
and
our
management
companies
Who
oversee.
These
are
very
keen
on
that,
but
there
are
ways
to
do
that
and
still
Focus
marketing.
It's
amazing
when
we
got
in
this
business
just
way
back
before
Al
Gore
had
been
to
the
internet.
AN
AN
Single
person
that
comes
to
our
property
now
has
absolutely
toured
it
on
the
internet,
they've
absolutely
and
they
go
into
the
social
media
and
they
want
to
see
what
the
neighbors
are
saying
about
it.
Previous
neighbors
or
residents
were
saying
about
it,
so
there
are
ways
to
direct
that,
while
honoring,
following
to
the
letter
of
the
law
and
the
spirit
of
all
of
our
fair
housing.
AN
AN
Apologies,
we
picked
that
up
a
couple
years
ago
and,
as
you
all
know,
we're
under
construction
and
we're
very
excited
about
that.
Notwithstanding
all
the
challenges
in
the
dirt
and
working
in
the
slumpy
part
of
the
state,
but
that
has
16
000
feet
of
retail.
This
has
4
500
feet.
AN
AO
AN
Fair
housing
laws
on
retail,
so
we're
very
focused
on
trying
to
curate
he's
a
tired
word,
really
local,
authentic
type
offerings
that
we
know
the
citizens
of
Asheville
in
this
region.
The
state
want
and
we're
certainly
doing
that
on
retail
and
I-
think
there
are
ways
to
do
that
and
be
to
understand
where
we
are.
We
are
here
because
a
couple
of
three
three
big
reasons:
Asheville
all
you've-
done
all
the
great
offerings.
AN
Your
your
city's
investment
in
the
river
Arts,
District
transportation
Improvement
program
is
a
huge
driver
in
this.
We
are.
AN
This:
is
a
private
sector
developer,
absolutely
responding
to
that
public
investment
and
we're
there,
because
this
is
funky
cool
arts
district,
and
we're
also
very
aware
that
it
has
happened
throughout
this
country
that
the
artists
kind
of
go
to
the
places
where
there's
these
neat
buildings
that
need
you
know
they
don't
mind-
maybe
they're
they're,
cold
and
drafty,
but
they've
got
these
big
windows
and
great
light
and
they
can
do
their
art
and
then
the
private
development
responds
and
they
get
pushed
out.
So
we're
very
aware
of
that.
AN
So
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
that
area
cool
and
funky
and
we
honor
it
Deborah
and
I
we're
in
Charlotte
for
a
time,
and
we
know
what
happened
in
Noda.
You
know
Charlotte
hasn't.
E
AN
Used
to
be
an
Arts
District
you'd
be
hard-pressed
to
find
an
artist
in
that
District.
Now
you
got
pushed
out
so
we've
had
these
discussions
with
our
neighbors
and
speaking
of
the
neighbors
I
got
to
know
all
of
these
varied
groups
down
in
the
river
Arts
District
when
we
said
we're
going
to
close
Robert
Street,
so
I
met
a
lot
of
folks
and
it's
actually
been
great.
So
our
one
resident,
neighbor,
Patty
torno,
who
I'm
pretty
sure
is
hi
Patty,
just
got
hip
replacement.
AN
She
lives
directly
across
from
the
site,
the
river,
the
river
Arts
District
Business
Association,
the
rad
pack,
the
river
Arts
District,
artists,
Association.
We
got
to
know
them
through
this
challenge.
Were
there
these
lemons
and
we
think
together
we
made
Lemonade
by
finding
a
way
to
get
that
road
kept
open.
AN
At
least
one
lane
and
having
this
site
under
contract
helped
do
that
by
moving
our
Construction
trail
over
there
lay
down
over
there
and
we
helped
that
owner
that
we'll
buy
the
site
from
tear
down
the
buildings
of
the
city
and
the
fire
department
had
deemed
unsafe.
It's
too
bad.
We
couldn't
save
the
old
colonized
building,
so
didn't
intend
to
go
into
all
that,
but
that's
kind
of
how
we
got
here,
how
we
were
attracted
to
this
site.
AN
I
know
y'all
had
a
long
long
night,
and
let
me
just
say
this
is
my
first
time
having
the
honor
to
address
the
council
and
thank
you
for
what
you
do.
This
is
democracy
in
action
and
starting
with
the
pledge
and
seeing
the
flag
and
having
you
all
patiently,
listen
to
all
sides
of
the
previous
debate.
Thank
you.
This
is
tough
work
and.
F
One
one
other
thing:
I
would
like
to
say
before
you
said
you
know
if
you're
but
I
know,
a
lot
of
people
are
concerned
about
the
affordability
issue
of
the
five
percent,
but
maybe
you
could
give
us
an
idea
as
to
when
you
build
on
Brownfield
and
in
flood
areas.
The
expenses
to
build
are
a
whole
lot
greater
than
you
would
have
in
any
other
building
a
regular
building.
Could
you
maybe
give
them
an
idea
of
that
increase
and
how
that
impacts?
What
you
can't
offer
as
far
as
affordability,.
AN
Thank
you
vice
mayor,
so
just
to
take
you
back
the
current
developer
and
I.
Don't
pretend
to
speak,
for
them
got
this
approved
with
an
ordinance
in
2017.
so
four
years
they
had
it
and
could
not
find
a
way
to
get
this
capitalized
a
couple
of
challenges.
One
is
it
just.
They
didn't
have
enough
intensity
to
to
have
enough
units
which
translates
to.
E
AN
Income
to
offset
the
challenges
of
the
site
and
sent
a
hundred
year
flood,
the
flood
has
increased
by
three
feet.
We
learned
at
the
TRC
committee,
there's
just
all
the
mitigation
that
we
have
to
go
through
to
take
care
of
the
unsuitable
soils
and
the
contaminated
dirt.
There
there's
a
hole
in
more
advanced
Foundation
system
that
has
to
go
into
a
site
such
as
this.
We
are
finding
that
on
the
site,
we're
under
construction
with
it's
even
more
than
we
thought
from
what
the
Geotech
showed.
AN
You
all
are
probably
aware
of
the
challenges
of
this:
the
site
where
they've
built
a
garage
on
in
the
South
slope
on
Cox
street.
That
developer
is
now
selling
that
site.
There's
a
it's
for
sale.
The
garage
is
built,
but
that
apartment
currently
is
not
going
to
be
built
because
of
the
challenges
there.
So
there
are
site
challenges
from
the
Brownfield
there's
site
challenges
from
the
flood,
and
you
all
know
this
interest
rates
have
gone
up
five
times
into
more
at
two
o'clock.
AN
They're
going
up
again
and
construction
prices
have
increased
10
percent
per
year
consistently.
So
it
translates
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
More
per
unit
that
we've
seen
in
just
the
last
two
and
a
half
years
and
it
costs
the
same
for
two
by
four
or
a
brick
or
a
sheet
of
drywall
for
a
Market
unit
as
it
does
for
an
affordable,
so
that
all
adds
to
it
and
I'll
just
volunteer.
We
plan
to
be
in
Asheville
for
a
while
to
serve
on
this
committee.
C
I
do
have
this
yeah
the
same
question
that
I
was
going
to
ask
is
like
when
we
are
looking
at
meeting
our
carbon
reduction
goals,
we're
also
talking
about
resilient
neighborhoods,
and
that
means
resiliency
during
crisis
for
all
the
people
who
will
live
in
the
housing
that
you're
building,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I've
been
asking
every
single
Housing
Development.
What's
the
plan
for
renewable
energy
for
these
new
neighbors,
do
you
have
a
plan
for
this
development
for
renewable
energy?
Well,.
AN
We
do
not
have
solar
panels
on
the
building,
we
do
have
Chargers
and,
as
I
believe
will
mention
that
we
are
building
in
capacity
to
the
panel,
which
is
the
most
critical
thing
to
first
dollar,
to
build
your
panel
to
to
scale
up
as
the
adopt-fold
option
of
electric
vehicles
happen.
We
build
these
to
Green
standards.
It's
not
the
lead
standard,
I'm,
a
leader,
credit
leader,
Credit
Professional,
but
we
use
our
association
screen
standard,
which
is
the
ngbs,
the
national
Green
Building
standard
through
the
National
multi-housing
Council.
AN
So
we
do
strive,
for
you,
know:
responsibility
and
sourcing
the
material,
highly
efficient,
15
Seer
HVAC
systems
that
are
far
more
efficient
and
sensitive
to
the
environment.
But
this
particular
project
does
not
have
solar
panels
or
or
things
of
that
nature.
It's
not
a
net
zero
building
by
any
means.
AN
That's
that's
a
good
question
and
I
was
invited
to
be
on
a
panel
by
the
Chamber
of
Commerce.
They
had
one
of
their
policy
on
tap
sessions
last
summer
and
I
was
one
of
four
panelists
and
the
topic
was,
you
know,
getting
updates
on
things
going
on
in
development
in
the
river
Arts
District
I
got
seated
next
to
Jay
Hackett
I
never
met
Jay
before
we
became
fast
friends.
AN
I
frankly
was
completely
ignorant
that
there
was
such
a
thing
as
black
Wall
Street
in
Asheville
I
had
learned
of
the
story
of
what
happened
in
the
massacre
in
Tulsa
and
I
was
really
intrigued
by
that
I
followed
up
with
Jay
and
asked
to
meet
with
him
and
I
told
him
about
something
we're
doing
on
a
proposed
project
in
Greenville,
South
Carolina.
So
this
project,
stone
yard
has
five
retail
Bays
could
be
for
artists
could
be
for
hard
Goods
a
retailer.
AN
It
could
be
for
a
restaurant,
it's
on
Lyman
and
we
intentionally
put
it
where
River
Arts
Place
T-Bones
in
coming
up
from
Patty's
car
Studios,
that's
where
they
are
and
I
volunteered
and
asked
them
if
he'd
be
interested
in
having
one
of
those
if
below,
Market,
rent,
that's
kind
of
a
New
Concept.
We
talk
about
affordable
housing
for
residents,
but
affordable
housing
for
commercial
is
something
so
we're
trying
to
do
our
part.
AN
AN
So
we
actually
offered
that
at
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
like
good
poker
players,
they
took
those
chips
and
raked
them
right
off
the
table
and
put
it
onto
the
as
one
of
the
Amendments
per
their
that
they
voted
upon
and
asked
me
how
long
and
I
said
in
perpetuity
so
that
it
was
our
initiative
to
create
that.
So
our
our
one
thing
to
have
20
percent
of
that
commercial
space
to
be
below
Market
rents.
AN
You
I
have
my
whole
design
team
here
when
you
get
into
deliberation.
Warren
with
CDC
is
here
our
our
civil
engineer.
We
have
our
land
planners
landscape,
architect,
Lisa
artist
designer
so
y'all
had
a
long
night
when
you
want
to
get
into
it
happy
to
go
into
more
detail
than
what
you
saw
in
the
staff
report.
A
Okay,
are
we
ready
for
the
public
hearing
portion
or
does
anyone
have
any
other
questions
before
we
do
that?
I
have
two
people
signed
up
to
speak?
A
AP
A
AG
AQ
What's
going
on
family,
how
y'all
doing
everybody's
good
yeah
so
touching
base
for
Brian
and
the
team?
Has
it's
been
pretty
dope
actually,
when
we
actually
went
down
there
after
his
initial
conversation
with
Jay
to
what
it
does
it
really
look
like
to
be
like
talking
about
the
creative
piece
of
what
does
it
look
like
to
be
in
a
space?
AQ
You
know
that
was
formerly
known
as
south
side
and
also
what
has
happened
and
taking
place
in
this
great
Exodus
that
took
place
in
Asheville
and
the
thing
is
I'm
a
transplant
but
I'm
fully
aware
and
I've
been
here
for
about
12
years,
but
I'm,
fully
aware,
like
the
stuff
that
has
taken
place,
talking
to
community
members
and
being
a
part
of
the
community
in
various
ways.
AQ
So
being
one
of
the
founding
board
members
and
stepping
into
the
directorial
role
for
Black
Wall
Street
going
to
meet
Brian
and
the
team
I
thought
it
was
really
cool
because
I'm
always
vetting
always
looking.
Are
you
just
using
up?
You
know
what
I'm
saying,
like
am
I
a
token
in
my
am
I
just
a
scapegoat
to
do
a
certain
thing
and
I
keep
them
at
the
very
visceral
level
at
a
whole
thousand
percent.
That's
a
real
thing
or
not.
AQ
Am
I
am
I
being
utilized
that
way,
but
after
we
really
got
down
to
the
regular
details
and
really
peeling
through
the
layers,
this
was
something
that
Black
Wall
Street
could
really
like
sink
into
I
mean
we
already
have
the
location
in
the
river
Arts
District
and
Black
Wall
Street
and
uncovering
the
riches
that
are
already
here
when
it
comes
to
entrepreneurship,
development
and
at
the
visceral
level
we
deal
with
dollars
in
cash
registers.
AQ
We
don't
do
the
active,
you
know,
Academia,
we
don't
do
all
the
other
different
pieces
and
components
we
rely
on
on
them
as
partners,
but
we're
really
dealing
with.
How
can
we
support
other
biopark
businesses,
honestly
black
businesses
in
the
area,
so
to
for
the
retail
space
and
supporting
Brian
and
the
team?
AQ
It's
been
really
cool
to
see
how
that
has
come
to
be
to
even
now,
and
also
what
it
looks
like
for
our
entrepreneurs
to
take
advantage
of
this
opportunity
in
River,
Arts,
District
and
support
them,
and
they
are
unable
to
exceed
and
win,
and
so
we're
still
mapping
out
those
details
and
creating
our
mous
and
making
it
super
official,
but
also
referral
to
local
people.
AQ
Because
I
know
housing
is
a
thing
and
I
was
one
of
the
things
I
asked
Jay
like
yeah,
we'll
be
doing
about
housing,
and
so
when
we
stopped
mapping
through-
and
it
was
like
okay,
the
pieces
that
that
what
they
do
have
available
that
we
can
refer
people
that
are
entrepreneurs
or
artists,
because
we
did
start
the
artist's
leg
in
our
district
to
represent
our
artists
in
the
area.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
had
a
leg
with
that
and
to
say
so
to
working
and
being
instrumental
working
with
Brian
and
everybody.
AQ
So
I
just
want
to
support
that
work
and
that
we
are
still
mapping
through
those
details
and
really
creating
a
solid
plan
that
I
see
is
very
promising.
So
I
want
to
thank
him
for
your
time.
Thank.
A
You
appreciate
it
and
then
Lucius
Wilson.
AO
Hello,
my
name
is
Lucius
Wilson
I'm,
the
chair
of
the
reverse,
District
Business,
Association
I'll,
be
really
quick.
I
am
not
with
my
kids
right
now,
which
I
really
love
to
be
to
be
here
to
support
this
project.
AO
I've
talked
with
Brian
chick
a
lot.
I
know
that
he's
available
I
know
we
can
talk
to
him.
I
know
we
can
push
stuff
I
understand
that
we're
trying
to
solve
all
the
problems,
but
the
reality
is,
is
look
at
what
this
site
is
right,
now,
look
at
what
this
site
has
been
and
the
ability
to
create
housing
on
someone
else's
dime
is
something
that
I
think
is
important
and
the
ability
to
work
with
a
developer
who
is
accessible
because
they
are
not
always
but
not
to
push
you
hard.
AO
AO
You
know,
I've
talked
with
some
of
you
on
a
personal
level.
I
appreciate
all
of
your
work.
I
appreciate
how
many
times
I
see
you
out
all
the
time
and
away
from
your
families
doing
the
stuff
that
you
do
and
just
as
someone
who
works
in
the
community
who
lives
really
close.
This
is
a
good
project
and
I'm,
just
asking
if
you
guys
can
approve
it
would
be
awesome.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
K
A
Hold
on
oh
so
sorry,
yeah,
we
we
don't
worry,
we
are
still
gonna
do
what
we
call
General
Public
comment
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
after
this
item
and
we
have
gotta
yeah
I
know
we
took
so
that
was
confusing.
Remember
we
took
a
break,
we
took
a
break,
we
were
just
filling
in
there
because
we
didn't
yeah.
So
we'll
definitely
we're
right
up.
Well,
not
right!
Now,
one
other
item
I'm
ready
to
make
a
motion.
Maybe
we'll
never
do
that
again,
because
that
was
so
confusing.
Okay,.
K
Please
make
a
motion
I
motion
to
approve
the
the
conditional
zoning
Amendment
request
for
the
property
located
at
175
Lyman
Street
from
mixed-use
expansion,
conditional
Zone
to
commercial
expansion
conditional
Zone
and
find
that
the
request
is
reasonable
is
in
the
public.
Interest
is
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
and
meets
the
development
needs
of
the
community
and
that
the
request
one
provides
infill
development
and
targeted
growth
areas.
Two
increases
the
supply
of
housing,
including
affordable
housing
and
proximity
to
schools.
Transit
and
Parks.
AR
A
And
that
is
on
the
conditions,
so
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
any
other.
Questions
are
kind
of
comments
before
we
vote.
AG
I
do
have
one
comment:
just
we
talked
about
how
this
is
a
Brownfield
in
a
flood
plain
and
the
fact
that
at
any
minute
we
are
vulnerable
to
having
a
flood
that
would
take
all
of
that
very
nasty
stuff
and
put
it
right
back
into
our
river
river.
So
I
think
that
this
is
a
a
nice
opportunity
for
a
lot
of
reasons,
but
it
is
not
easy
to
do.
AG
Brownfield
remediation
work
in
a
flood
plain
and
I
think
that,
like
others,
are
saying,
I
want
more
affordable
housing
everywhere,
all
the
time
anytime
possible,
and
we
some
used
to
say
you
know
you
can't
I
can
do
anything
you
want,
but
I
can't
do
everything
you
want
and
I
think
y'all
are
doing
a
lot
of
really
good
public
benefits
with
this
project.
So
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
in.
K
A
Will's,
noting
it
yeah
yeah,
you
guys
can
help
us
fix
that.
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
all,
those
in
favor.
Please
say.
A
A
AS
AS
Presentation
so
thank
you,
mayor
and
members
of
council.
It's
my
fault.
I
heard
you
calling
for
Will
and
then
me
and
I
grabbed
will
and
I
said.
Let's
go
down.
The
stairs
and
I
ran
down
the
stairs.
We
got
locked
out.
So
it's
my
fault,
so
I
apologize.
AS
I
thought
it'd
be
faster
to
run
down
the
stairs,
but
it
was
not
faster,
so
I'm
here
to
talk
about
Housing,
Trust,
Fund
policy
revisions,
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
was
established
in
2000
and
as
a
result
of
allocations,
we
currently
have
7.65
million
in
the
Housing
Trust
Fund.
We
wanted
to
make
revisions
at
this
point
in
time
to
respond
to
the
fluctuating
market
conditions,
some
of
which
you
just
heard
about.
We
want
to
further
align
with
the
North
Carolina
Housing
Finance
Agency
requirements
and
adjust
some
scoring
criteria
as
well.
AS
AS
It
previously
had
an
annual
cycle,
then
it
evolved
into
a
evolving
like
kind
of
accepting
applications
on
an
on-rolling
basis.
So
we're
going
to
try
going
back
to
a
major
once
a
year
cycle,
possibly
twice
a
year
through
the
budget
process.
City
council
generally
approves
about
a
half
million.
Every
year,
we've
put
money
from
the
bonds
into
the
fund
as
well.
AS
So
currently
eligible
uses
for
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
include
for
sale
and
Rental
housing,
including
land
acquisition
and
hard
costs,
converting
or
adaptive,
reuse
of
existing
non-residential
structures
for
housing,
purchase
and
Rehab
of
existing
substandard
housing
units,
also
purchasing
and
rehabilitating,
or
conversion
of
market
rate
units
to
affordable
housing.
It
also
can
be
used
for
manufactured
housing
and
modular
construction,
and
it
also
can
be
used
for
down
payment
loans
as
long
as
loans
as
funds
are
not
forgiven.
That's
the
current
standards.
AS
There
are
some
restrictions,
obviously
they're,
not
maybe
this
isn't
obvious,
but
they're
not
available
for
individuals
to
use
on
their
own
house.
So
it's
we're
really
looking
to
produce
affordable
housing
for
other
folks,
a
minimum
of
20
of
the
units
for
the
project
have
to
be
affordable.
AS
Currently,
if
affordable
units
have
been
pledged
for
the
city
in
exchange
for
a
density,
bonus
or
conditional
zoning,
just
like
you
just
did
this
evening
right
now,
you
can't
come
back
and
ask
for
housing
trust
funds
for
that
same
amount
of
units.
We
usually
ask
for
developers
to
add
additional
number
of
units
if
you're
asking
for
funding
Rehabilitation
of
single-family
homes
and
duplexes
projects
have
to
be
located
within
the
city
and
currently
pre-development
expenses
are
not
an
eligible
use.
AS
So,
as
I
started
to
talk
about
before,
we
want
to
revise
this
policy
now,
because
we
are
seeing
construction
costs
are
just
skyrocketing
right
now.
In
our
current,
we
have
caps
in
our
policy
that
really
limit
how
much
money
we
can
loan
out,
and
we
also
want
to
add
additional
underwriting
criteria
to
evaluate
proposals
and
again
we
want
to
align
with
the
North
Carolina
Housing
Finance
Agency.
AS
That's
the
agency
that
evaluates
tax
credit
projects,
so
some
of
the
bigger
projects
we
get
in
our
community
are
applying
to
both
for
tax
credits
and
to
the
Housing
Trust
Fund.
So
it
makes
sense
for
our
requirements
to
be
the
same
as
that
agency
and
again,
we
want
to
align
with
the
city
with
the
county
cycle.
AS
So,
just
really
quickly
our
proposed
schedule
for
Housing
Trust
Fund
applications.
We
will
open
the
cycle
in
December.
The
application
deadline
would
be
in
February,
we'll
have
initial
review
by
the
hcd
committee
Housing
and
Community
Development
Committee
in
March,
with
final
recommendations
in
April
by
that
committee,
and
they
would
then
come
to
City
Council
in
April
for
funding
decisions,
and
this
also
lines
up
very
nicely
with
the
tax
credit
process.
AS
So
here
there
are
a
lot
of.
There
are
a
lot
of
little
tiny
policy
changes,
but
here
are
the
biggest
nuggets
of
the
policy
changes
we
are
proposing
to
remove
the
one
million
dollar
cap
on
requests
and
instead
use
10
of
the
total
estimated
project
costs
as
a
cap.
This
is
a
similar
cap
that
Buncombe
County
is
using
seven
out
of
the
last
11
approved
applications
were
over
a
million
dollars,
so
it's
not
something
we're
really
holding
to
these
days
and
it
doesn't
seem
to
be
a
realistic
number.
AS
It
also
lets
us
be
more
responsive
to
those
changing
conditions
in
the
housing
market.
We
also
have
an
existing
cat
per
unit
subsidy
per
unit
of
20
000
and,
as
you
just
heard,
you
know
with
those
ex
you
know
big
change
in
costs.
That
is
no
longer
a
realistic
number
at
all,
and
so
we
actually
just
want
to
take
that
cap
out
and
just
instead
consider
the
perception
unit
as
a
metric
that
we're
looking
at.
AS
But
it's
not
a
cap
per
se,
and
that's
also
in
line
with
something
that
Buncombe
County
does
as
well
and
I.
Guess.
One
last
note
is
we
see
a
real
variation
in
that
per
unit
subsidy,
like
so
for
tax
credit
projects
that
have
a
lot
more
layers
of
funding?
They
tend
to
be
lower
subsidies,
whereas
a
private
developer
who's,
not
getting
other
big
sources
of
funding.
We
might
have
a
higher
subsidy
amount.
AS
Just
a
few
more,
we
are
adding
averaging
incomes
into
this
mix,
which
is
something
you
can
do
for
tax
credit
input
applications
and
it
also
allows
a
developer
to
get
some
higher
incomes,
not
higher,
that
aren't
affordable
but
also
really
dig
deeper
into
the
lower
incomes.
So
if
say,
your
entire
project
needs
to
average
60
percent
Ami.
You
can
have
some
that
are
above
that,
but
then
you
also
are
probably
you're
reaching
30
Ami
as
well.
So
it
allows
us
to
get
a
little
bit
more
income
diversity
within
developments.
AS
AS
So
we
really,
we
talked
a
lot
about
proposed
policy
changes
in
the
scoring
rubric.
Generally,
some
themes
were
that
the
scoring
rubric
has
room
for
improvement.
It's
understood
this
is
one
factor
in
decision
making.
It's
not
the
deciding
factor
for
all.
You
know
decisions
it.
AS
AS
They
made
some
recommendations
to
the
scoring
Matrix,
which
I'll
go
over
in
just
the
next
slide.
Next
slide
or
two
which
staff
adopted,
they
also
committed,
as
I,
said,
to
doing
a
kind
of
in-depth
look
at
the
scoring
rubric.
AS
AS
What's
the
right,
number
and
I
think
we
need
more
time
and
more
data
collection
to
really
make
if
we
were
going
to
put
this
in
the
scoring
Matrix
make
a
good
choice
around
that
again,
we
will
still
be
reporting
on
it,
it'll
be
in
our
staff
reports
and
it'll
be
considered
as
a
part
of
the
decisions
number
of
bedrooms.
Now
this
is
interesting.
So,
for
a
long
time
we
have
operated
under
this
assumption
and
I
think
it's
actually
a
good
assumption
that
we
need
a
lot
of
one
bedrooms
in
our
community.
AS
So
it's
generally
speaking,
we
have
a
shortage,
but
there
has
been
a
concern
recently
brought
up
about
housing
for
family
units,
so
we
don't
really
have
the
data
to
propose
the
correct
scoring
measurement.
Here
we
will
still
report
on
it,
I
think
housing
providers
know
and
if
you're
doing
a
big
project
you're
many
of
them
are
doing
Market
studies.
They
know
the
need
so
something
again
we'll
report
on,
but
we
just
took
it
out
of
the
scoring
Matrix
and
then.
Lastly,
we
added
bonus
points
in
for
setting
aside
units
for
housing,
Choice
vouchers.
AS
The
hcv
committee
reviewed
all
of
this
on
December
6th
and
voted
in
favor
of
it
unanimously.
AS
So
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
these
changes.
I,
don't
want
to
repeat
everything.
I
just
said
to
you:
I
will
just
to
point
out
a
couple
things.
Additionally,
we
are
one
of
the
additions
we
made
is
that
if
you're
rehabilitating
single-family
homes
and
duplexes,
it
could
be
an
allowable
use,
we
kind
of
said
you
have
to
do
at
least
four
units,
so
there
might
be
some
like
the
CLT
or
some
other
organizations
that
just
want
to
do
more
modest
projects
and
that
we've
got
existing
housing
that
we
want
to
keep
affordable.
AS
AS
There
are
some
future
affordable
housing
policy
changes
and
considerations.
We've
talked
about
both
here
in
these
in
this
chamber
and
at
the
hcd
committee
and
staff
will
be
working
on
those
the
next
year.
Things
like
some
of
these
items
are
like
funding
for
site
Readiness
program,
so
funding
pre-development
expenses,
which
we
don't
fund
right
now,
down
payment
assistance,
land
acquisition
and
previously
redlined
areas
and
goals
for
reaching
lower
Amis
in
those
areas
as
well
and
then
voucher
set
aside
so
going
Beyond
just
the
points
we
have,
but
can
we
start
requiring
them?
AS
AS
K
I
just
want
to
share
how
incredibly
thankful
I
am
for
you
and
your
work
Sasha
and
your
whole
team.
This
is
like
rapid
fire.
We
just
put
you
on
housing
this
year,
you've
wrangled
a
hack,
hcd
I
mean
like
it's
amazing,
I,
just
don't
want
I,
don't
want
that
to
be
lost.
It's
a
big
undertaking.
What
you've
done
here-
and
you
got
it
to
us
by
the
end
of
the
year,
like
you
said,
just
want
to
acknowledge.
K
C
I
do
have
a
question:
can
we
take
it
back
to
the
last
slide?
Sure
I
do
appreciate
the
expeditious
nature
of
this
coming
forward,
as
promised
before
the
end
of
the
year.
C
I
also
heard
legally
feasible
tip
for
us
to
make
sure
that
their
voucher
accepting,
but
we
weren't
sure
how
it
was
going
to
work
with
developers
and
so
I
have
some
curiosity
around
that
we
saw
what
Charlotte
was
doing
with
essentially
making
sure
that
people
weren't
going
to
be
excluded
from
housing
because
of
how
they
paid
their
rent,
veteran
vouchers,
housing
vouchers,
child
support
payments
in
City,
funded
or
municipally.
You
know
funded
housing,
which
this
does
and
I've
taught
us
some
other
Municipal
electives
across
the
state,
and
they
said
you
don't.
E
AS
AR
F
AR
So
it
may
or
may
not
do
any
good,
but
a
set-aside
is
saying
you
will
accept
a
voucher
for
less
than
the
fair
market
or
whatever
the
rental
rate.
So
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
have
all
of
these
vouchers
out
there
is
there
are
even
developers
who
will
accept
them,
but
they
don't
have
to
accept
them
at
a
lower
rate.
AS
Or
can
I
just
add
one
piece
of
information,
so
we
do
have
a
non-discrimination
clause
in
our
Housing
Trust
Fund
and
we
are
writing
it
into
our
agreements.
So
that
part
we
are
already
doing
it's
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
was
clear.
AS
C
AR
AR
Is
the
operative
word
they're
basically
saying
yeah
we'll
take
them,
but
they
don't
have
to
take
them
if
someone
else
comes
in
and
is
willing
and
able
to
pay
the
market
rate.
Hence
the
word
set
aside
so
set
aside
is
saying:
will
take
five
below
market
rate
when
just
accepting
they
don't
have
to
you
see
the
distinction.
C
I
do
I
do
and
I'm
wondering,
because
we've
already
talked
about
how
that
this
was
going
to
be
coming
to
council
by
the
end
of
the
year.
Are
we
are
we
doing
something
because
we're
getting
ready
to
have
this
application
and
everyone's
going
to
apply
to
do
this
and
then
we're
going
to
see
a
bunch
of
projects
come
through
that
don't
meet
our
goals?
F
This
tonight,
yeah,
okay,
yeah
and
one
other
thing.
I
would
just
like
to
ask
okay,
if
you,
even
with
the
vouchers
say,
for
instance,
you
have
people
that,
basically
because
the
developer
I
mean
whoever
will
not
accept
that,
because
it's
a
lesser
amount,
the
the
the
the
occupant
has
the
they
can't
actually
pay
the
overage
themselves
right,
or
do
you
look
at
basically
does
that
take
them
out
of
the
33
percent?
You
know
part
of
their
income.
How
does
that.
AR
K
K
J
AS
We
don't
really
know
right,
and
the
point
has
been
made
to
me
and
I'm
not
trying
to
divert
us
down
another
road,
but
that
there
are
people
who,
with
very
low
income,
who
don't
have
vouchers
that
also
need
units
too
interesting
yeah,
so
that
you
might
have
low
income
and
you
qualify
for
the
rent
of
the
unit.
You.
W
F
AR
K
F
W
F
Can
get
I
was
trying
to
find
a
way
that
some
of
these
people
can
get
into
units
that
they
may
would
like
to
have.
But
the
developer
will
not
accept
certain
things,
but
I
think
they
may
want
to
consider
the
gift
situation,
if
that's
an
option
to
get
people
in
and
use
the
vouchers,
because
well
that
might
be.
F
AS
Next
year,
this
is
spring
and
summer
which
just
making
sure
a
little
scary
to
me,
but
because
we
have
luige
policy,
we
want
to
get
to
it's.
Probably
the
next
thing.
AS
E
AS
A
AT
AT
Yeah,
it's
not
already,
and
we
also
have
a
eight
million
dollars
in
the
whole
trust
fund
and
we
add
a
half
a
million
dollars
every
year.
Is
that
right,
correct,
okay
supply
and
demand,
of
course,
was
as
often
as
Kim
Roney
will
talk
about
solar
panels.
If
we're
going
to
talk
about
affordable
housing,
affordability
as
a
function
of
supply
and
demand,
and
how
much
are
we
not
we,
the
city
of
Asheville,
and
not
you,
because
this
money
isn't
in
your
control
or
our
control
whatsoever.
AT
The
tourism
Development
Authority
is
collecting
46
million
dollars
a
year
in
hotel
taxes
to
create
the
demand
which
causes
our
lack
of
affordability,
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
versus
forty
six
million
and
growing.
That's
not
even
with
all
the
new
hotels
online
that
are
still
under
construction,
so
we're
going
to
reach
50
million
dollars
a
year,
50
million
dollars
a
year
versus
a
half,
and
that's
one
percent
I'm,
not
scolding!
You
because
we
should
spend
more.
AT
AT
46
to
50
million
dollars
a
year
spent
on
telling
people
that
ads
at
the
U.S
open
how
many
millions
a
million
and
a
half
to
get
our
name
put
on
a
banner
during
the
U.S
open,
that's
three
years
of
Asheville
City
commitment
to
affordable
housing.
This
is
just
so
ridiculous.
It's
I
feel
so
bad
for
all
the
people.
Putting
so
much
effort
into
this
impossible.
AT
A
Bye
yeah,
so
we
don't
have
anyone
else
to
sign
up
to
speak
on
that
I
I
on
this
and
I
do
think
that
we.
A
Reminded
of
that
challenge
in
our
community
that
the
room
tax
is
not
controlled
by
this
body
or
the
commissioners
and
goes
to
the
tours
and
Development
Authority
and
we've
had
discussions
with
them
about
whether
or
not
they
can
use
those
funds
for
housing,
at
least
Workforce
housing.
For
folks
who
work
in
the
tourism
industry,
and
that
is
an
ongoing
conversation.
A
Interestingly,
though,
the
last
check
38
of
our
room
tax
collected
in
Buncombe
County,
is
from
airbnb's
and
BRBO.
So
the
growth
is
not
so
much
in
hotel
rooms,
but
in
our
own
housing
stock,
which
is
an
issue
that
this
city
has
tackled
through.
Zoning
and
the
county
will
be
looking
at
in
the
next
year,
where
there
are
no
regulations
around
short-term
rental
at
all.
So
so
we
have.
K
A
E
A
K
A
K
Say
for
the
folks
that
we're
listening
like
maybe
this
doesn't
always
come
clear
because
we
don't
say
it,
but
when
we
do
take
on
these
projects
and
and
with
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
or
something
we
subsidize,
we
actually
are
able
to
go
back
and
verify
that
they
are
charging
affordable
rents.
We
can
request
their
rentals
I.
Get
that
question
a
lot
like.
Well,
how
do
you
know
it's
really
affordable?
How
is
it
really
happening?
We
do
have
that
established.
I,
assume
that
you
know,
as
we
navigate
this
with
the
voucher
set
aside.
A
E
A
Okay,
so
we
we're
gonna
go
back
to
our
general
public
comment.
We
have
already
heard
from
Mr
Hal
and
I'm
going
to
continue
through
the
list.
I
will
tell
you
for
for
folks
who
haven't
participated
in
our
general
public
comment.
This
is
a
the
part
of
our
agenda
where
we
allow
three
minutes
to
speak
for
each
speaker.
We
do
not
respond
to
each
speaker.
We
do
not
ask
questions.
We
just
moved
through
the
list
and
allow
each
speaker
three
minutes
to
speak.
A
I
know
there
are
some
issues
that
folks
are
raising
on
our
under
our
general
public
comment
tonight
and
there
are
opportunities
outside
of
this
meeting
to
continue
those
discussions
and
I'm
looking
at
the
city
manager,
because
I'm
I'm
not
quite
sure
who
or
how
some
of
this
will
be
addressed.
But
just
just
please
know
that
we
we
don't
ask
questions
and
engage
in
conversation,
also
we'd
be
here
till
midnight.
A
If
we
did
that
every
time
we're
sometimes
we're
here
to
midnight
anyway,
so
the
next
person
to
speak
is
Daniel,
Suber
and
you'll.
Tell
me
if
I'm
saying
and
right.
AU
Yeah
good
to
see
everybody
here
great
to
see
everybody
here.
Thank
you
for
the
service
that
you
are
provided
to
the
community.
Thank
you
for
the
rose
that
you
play,
especially
if
you
play
authentically
and
well
and
especially
if
you're
listening
to
community,
especially
if
you're
ready
to
invest
in
community
a
wholesome,
long-term
Innovative,
thoughtful
way,
because
the
city
of
Asheville
needs
something
that
city
of
Asheville
needs
a
lot.
We
can.
You
know
we
can
play.
AU
Situations
like
like
everything
is
all
good,
but
for
anybody
that
really
lives
in
community
and
knows
that
there's
a
lot
of
things
to
be
addressed
and
that
there
are
heroes
in
the
community
that
are
already
working
on
those
things
all
kind
of
people
that
are
working
to
support.
What's
going
on
support,
the
efforts
that
are
already
happening,
I
would
love
to
see
a
concerted
effort
to
Embrace
those
connection.
AU
I
would
love
to
see
a
million
dollars
go
to
each
public
housing
neighborhood
every
year
and
those
purple
housing
neighborhoods
are
included
in
the
process
of
descent,
deciding
how
to
spend
that
money.
But
I
got
a
presentation
to
get
to
I'm
part
of
the
Dune
teams.
I
Asheville
committee,
I,
actually
I've
been
working
volunteering
we
got,
we
got
members
of
our
group.
That's
that's.
You
know
been
been
vendors
of
this
event
that
celebrates
the
you
know.
You
know
the
the
release
of
of
of
the
laws
that
that
brought
people
into
slavery.
AU
You
know
I'm
saying
so
we're
here
to
celebrate
this.
We've
been
celebrating
stuff
on
and
off
since
2011
in
the
Hillcrest
Community.
Some
of
y'all
in
this
room
have
been
to
a
Juneteenth
event,
and
maybe
you
remember
that
I
was
there
or
that
we
had
members
of
the
Hillcrest
Community
being
paid
to
to
provide
services
for
the
event
or
volunteering
out
of
their
own
heart,
because
that's
what
they
wanted
to
do,
or
they
they're
donating
their
own
money
to
their
Community,
because
that's
what
they
wanted
to
do.
AU
We
saw
that
Juneteenth
over
the
years
were
working
with
us.
We
saw
that
it
brings
Community
together
and
we
saw
times
with
peace
really
through
the
community
engagement
effort
to
make
sure
that
the
community
actually
bought
into
it.
AU
We're
actually
able
to
create
an
event
that
invited
other
neighborhoods
to
come
to
that
public
housing
neighborhood
that
there
were
people
all
across
the
city
from
all
kind
of
walks
of
life,
maybe
from
City
Council
Members
to
you
know,
maybe
someone
that
that's
addicted
to
drugs
and
they're,
trying
to
get
off
and
they're
trying
to
feed
their
family
like
there's
all
kind
of
people
that
are
you
know,
I
have
attended
this
event
and
it's
something
that's
really
really
important
to
the
black
community
here
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
it
stays
in
community,
because
we
always
appreciate
City
efforts
to
make
things
Equitable
and
include
people,
and
things
like
that.
AU
I
think
it's
important
to
look
at
those
processes
very
carefully
and
well
and
think
long
term
how
we
can
do
that,
engage
in
that
now
surely
I'm
running
over
my
time,
but
I
wanted
to
go
through
some
slides
here.
Our
purpose
is
to
celebrate
the
local
and
National
History
of
Juneteenth
in
Asheville
history
of
the
black
community
as
a
whole
lot
of
entrepreneurs
and
black
community
here
we're
a
group
of
individuals.
We've
all
worked
on
participating
attendance,
provided
funds
for
materials,
supported,
attended
or
are
vended
with
doing
teams
of
Asheville
since
2011..
AU
They
started
in
the
Hillcrest
Community
here
in
this
recent
history
in
2011,
and
we
think
it
would
have
been
possible
without
the
women's
well-being
and
development
foundation,
especially
Ethiopia
Nicole
Nicole
heinbach,
who
at
that
time
was
really.
They
were
really
in
in.
You
know,
involved
in
the
Hillcrest
neighborhood
and
were
able
to
get
the
buy
enough
community.
So
community
did
what
they
could
to
embrace
it.
It
would
not
have
been
possible
without
that
Community
Support.
AU
So
for
years
and
years
and
years
and
years
and
years
until
2020,
we
had
Juneteenth
of
Asheville
and
Hillcrest,
and
we
it
finally
got
so
big
for
the
neighborhood
we
had
to
take
it
out.
We
collaborated
with
the
city
of
Asheville
to
do
it
at
MLK,
Association
in
2021,
at
the
MLK
Park
and
then
in
2022.
Finally,
we
were
able
to
do
it
downtown
with
the
city.
A
I
hate
to
interrupt
you,
but
so
you've
sent
us
this
presentation.
Are
there?
Are
you
speaking
for
a
group
of
folks
who
are
seeding
their
time
to
you?
Okay,
okay,
so
raise
your
hand
if
you're
not
going
to
speak
tonight
and
you're
seeding
your
time
to
Mr
Suber
one,
two,
three:
okay!
Thank
you.
So
please
continue
wait.
A
Yeah
I
think
raise
your
hand
if
you're
seeding
your
time
again
and.
A
AU
All
right
here
we
go.
You
Maggie!
You
got
the
timing,
thank
you
for
making
sure
that
we
have
enough
time
to
speak
about
community
and
the
community
involvement
in
an
event
that
ended
up
becoming
a
national
holiday
after
we
have
been
celebrating
it
for
so
long,
so
we
have
celebrated
and,
like
I
say
in
Hillcrest
until
like
2020
and
then
finally,
we
were
able
to
collaborate
with
the
city
of
Asheville
in
2021
when,
finally,
it
was
declared
as
a
national
holiday
first
by
the
city
of
basketball.
AU
I,
wonder
why,
like
maybe,
there
was
some
influence,
maybe
we'd
known,
there's
a
community
support
for
this
community
involvement.
Finally,
after
that
Joe
body
even
announced
it
as
a
national
holiday.
Obviously
it's
something
that's
relevant,
so
this
event
that
we've
been
working
for
and
and
and
you
know
putting
our
time
into
and
going
to
communities
and
knocking
door
to
door
and
talking
to
people
and
making
sure
that
there's
no
violence
and
there's
no
peace,
because
through
every
single
event
that
we've
had
there
were
no
fights.
If
there's
anything
that
we
settled
it
immediately
and.
AU
A
lot
for
a
black
community
here
what
we
know
that
there's
violence
in
community,
where
we
know
that
there's
problems
that
for
someone
when
we
see
Community
efforts
that
really
address
things
in
an
authentic
way,
I
would
love
to
see
more
support
for
it.
Like,
like
I,
say,
I
appreciate
everybody
that
support
I,
appreciate
the
city
of
Asheville
for
funding
us
last
year
and
providing
us
with
in-kind
support,
especially
like
being
able
to
use
pack
Square
place
and
actually
bring
this
downtown.
So
we
can
expand
it
to
the
entire
Western
North
Carolina.
AU
Anybody
in
the
area
that
would
come
here,
so
we've
been
working
on
this
really
hard.
We're
glad
we're
excited
to
be
able
to
bring
this.
Now
we
had
challenges
that
we
have
problems,
but
we
did
the
best
that
we
could.
So
our
team
consists
of
Daniel
Suber
time
of
Go
diva
photography,
pow
Howell,
Damien,
DJ,
Superman,
Smith,
Aldi
green
of
Young
Circle
Daniel
young
of
the
direct
catering
rain
map
Janita
estonia's.
AU
So
what
are
the
qualities
that
have
made
this
important?
We
think
that
through
the
the
involvement
of
leaders
in
Hillcrest
throughout
the
years
such
as
Mr
Elder,
Donnie
Hayes,
that
Hillcrest
was
ready
to
support
such
an
event
in
2011
women's
well-being
and
development
foundation.
You
know
began
that
current
series,
so
they
did
that
until
about
2015.
AU
Leaf,
the
MLK
Association,
the
housing
authority
of
the
city
of
Asheville
and
green
opportunities,
we
can
find
members
of
that
groups
at
our
events
on
a
regular
basis
and
they
usually
provided
funding
or
support
in
some
way
or
another,
even
if
they
baked
the
cake
or
our
pie
or
and
and
came
as
I've
seen,
council
member
Kim
Roney
do
I,
don't
know
if
I've
ever
seen
that
Miss
A
Juneteenth
she
maybe
have
been
at
everyone,
and
you
know
as
well
as
Shanika
Smith
we've
seen
we've
seen
members
to
actually
show
up
and
to
see
this
happen
in
Hillcrest.
AU
It
was
not
a
secret,
though
some
people
that
may
be
new
to
Asheville
may
think
that
in
2020
that
was
the
first
student
team
celebration
that
happened
here
and
that's
okay,
but
we're
here
to
clear
that
and
provide
transparency.
So
in
2015,
Damien
DJ
Superman
Smith
began
to
be
the
main
coordinator
for
the
Savannah
Hillcrest,
but
he
had
been
providing
playground
equipment
from
the
very
first
one
and
continued
to
do
so
after
that
2017,
in
collaboration
with
Dwayne
Barton
in
support
of
him
and
many
others.
E
AU
Necessarily
the
easiest
thing
to
do,
but
this
event
grow
bigger
and
bigger
and
bigger.
So
we
could
not
contain
it
within
a
neighborhood
anymore
and
then
we
did
it
at
MLK
Park
and
it
was
big
there
and
there
may
be
thousands
of
people
there
and
we
had
it
now
time.
There
were
maybe
thousands
of
people
there
throughout
the
day.
So
this
is
something
that
we
have
engaged
in.
AU
We
may
not
be
perfect,
but
we
have
plenty
of
experience
doing
this
and
coordinating
this
and
through
our
members
that
we
have
connections
throughout
the
city
that
can
frame
Community
by
people
that
could
actually
walk
into
a
public
housing,
neighborhood
no
gun-
or
you
know
no,
no
black
outfit
or
anything
like
that.
You
don't
have
anybody
protecting
you,
you
walk
through
and
you
actually
talk
to
people
and
say
hey
how
you
doing
what's
going
on
with
you
how's
your
day.
What
do
you
need?
AU
So
we
have
people
on
our
team
that
can
do
that
all
right,
so
we
talked
finally
in
2020,
Dana
teamed
up
with
Thomas
boy,
the
true
opportunist
promotion
to
celebrate
Juneteenth
celebration
in
Hillcrest,
really
because
I
was
about
to
move
from
Hillcrest
and
I
wanted
to
make
sure
Hillcrest
still
had
it.
So
in
2021,
Daniel,
super
and
Thomas
boy,
Award,
with
Paul
Howell,
Tom,
Mo
and
and
Daniel
young
I
missed
many
others
to
start
the
beginning
of
the
Juneteenth
of
Asheville
committee,
but
they
have
been
doing
stuff
in
their
neighbor.
AU
AU
AU
Cool
but
I
know
y'all,
probably
got
a
pile
of
notes
on
your
desk.
Y'all
probably
got
all
kind
of
sound
y'all
got
all
kind
of
things
to
do
and
through
those
and
and
buy
that
indirectly.
Yes,
so
if
I'm
collaborating
with
the
city
of
Asheville,
then
I
have
to
abide
by
those
things
that
y'all
have
to
abide.
AU
But
I
have
to
be
concerned
about
some
of
the
things
that
y'all
need
to
be
concerned
with
it's,
not
the
easiest
thing,
but
we
did
our
best
and
we
worked
through
it,
and
we
did
that
with
the
wild
mind
as
our
fiscal
sponsor
for
this
year
and
then
last
year
we
had
my
dad
taught
me
that
as
a
fiscal
sponsor,
but.
AU
Successfully
and
luckily
so,
but
after
the
events
completion,
we
decided
to
go
without
troop
opportunist
promotions
and
we
still
miss
wish
Mr
boy
well,
but
we
just
have
some
differences
and
we
decided
it'd
be
better
to
go
on
in
that
way.
But
we
still
support
him
in
his
efforts.
So
the.
AU
Announced
this
year
that
it
had
new
call
for
proposals
to
be
submitted
in
order
to
you
know
manage
the
Juneteenth
event
on
the
behalf
of
the
city
of
Asheville.
Well,
suddenly,
we
needed
to
compete
in
order
to
put
on
this
event,
but
we
had
been
a
part
of
it
for
its
entire
recent
history
and
with
the
support
of
various
members,
various
non-profits
and
groups
and
Community
organizations.
We.
AU
For
his
entirety,
it
was
recent
history,
so
the
city
of
Astro
would
not
budge
on
this,
maybe
side
in
some
type
of
laws
or
something
that
regulations
guidelines
which
we
understand,
but
that
this
put
us
in
a
in
a
Buy
in
a
certain
way.
AU
So
we
know-
hopefully
everybody
here
knows
what
Juneteenth
even
is,
but
it's
celebration
of
the
news
that
that
slaves,
enslaved
people
were
free.
All
right,
we
already
mentioned
making
a
national
holiday
here
in
Asheville,
hopefully
credentials
are,
are
given
to
like
just
all
the
people
over
the
years
that
have
just
been
working
on
this
stuff
right.
So
we.
AU
Within
a
lot
and
reasonable
to
work
with
the
Juneteenth
of
Asheville
community
that
we
already
have
in
place
and
find
organizations
to
support
them
and
what
they're
already
doing,
and
the
trails
that
they've
already
blazed
help
them
to
expand?
How
about
doing
something
like
that?
This
is
what
we
were
expecting
or
that
we
had
hoped
for,
but
that
we
realized.
Maybe
it
was
not
the
best
or
easiest
thing
to
do
so.
AU
Thank
you.
Our
request
is
that
we
have
a
face-to-face
election
with
the
selection
committee
and
that
the
selection
committee,
that
their
identities
be
a
public
record
and
that
there'll
be
a
reselection
process
where
our
community
group
actually
has
a
chance
to
put
together
an
accurate,
accurate
and
adequate
application
for
this,
since,
if
there
must
be
a
reselection
process,.
AU
A
Thank
you.
The
next
person
signed
up
to
speak
is
Bernard
West.
N
Good
evening,
I'm
currently
employed
with
a
local
business
in
the
heart
of
downtown
Asheville
I'm
22
and
have
lived
in
Asheville
for
19
years.
I
stand
before
you
to
please
ask
that:
should
David
Moritz
the
developer
of
the
newly
approved
Aston
Street
development
seek
out
a
city
subsidy,
you
deny
him
any
money
from
the
city.
It
is
unlikely
that
he
will
build
some
parking
for
the
residents
of
the
development
and
ensure
an
application
process
that
prioritizes
downtown
workers.
N
Therefore,
you
must
deny
him
subsidy,
David
Morris
has
said
this
new
231
micro
unit,
Housing
Development
is
meant
to
Target
downtown
workers,
I
believe
an
application
process
that
prioritizes
the
workers
who
hold
jobs
in
the
immediate
downtown
area
is
the
best
way
to
ensure
that
the
housing
gets
into
the
hands
of
those
who
need
it.
Not
someone
looking
to
have
a
small
second
home
or
another
place
to
rent
out
to
tourists.
N
I
told
the
Citizen
Times
in
June
that
the
development
would
come
with
shared
laundry
kitchen
and
Lounge
facilities.
He
says
the
development
would
bring
desperately
needed
Workforce
housing
to
the
area,
but
I
find
that
comment
to
be
a
gross
misrepresentation
of
what
the
workers
of
downtown
need.
We're,
not
just
a
Workforce
that
needs
to
be
housed,
we're
real
people
with
real
lives.
We
need
to
have
our
own
space
to
come
back
to
after
a
long
day
of
work.
N
Space
will
be
available,
we're
not
just
some
Workforce
to
be
housed,
we're
people,
people
want
a
home
that
includes
our
own
kitchen
and
a
quiet
place
to
kick
our
feet
up.
We
want
to
know
for
certain
that,
yes,
we
will
have
clean
clothes
tomorrow.
David
Moritz
called
his
idea.
An
elegant
solution
to
affordable
housing.
I
think
the
idea
is
completely
out
of
touch
with
what
the
community
with
the
community.
N
It
seeks
to
help
I
ask
that
you
deny
him
a
city
subsidy
if
he
refuses
to
build
parking
for
the
development
with
units
that
could
house
two
people,
each
that
leaves
no
place
to
park
for
the
potential
662
residents
of
the
building.
The
unit
includes
a
total
of
76
bike
spaces,
but
it's
unreasonable
to
think
that
not
one
person
in
the
building
will
own
a
car
or
that
662
people
are
going
to
be
riding
bikes.
N
This
could
lead
to
Residents
taking
up
the
already
very
limited
parking
spaces
that
have
been
specifically
designated
for
downtown
workers,
I'm
all
for
encouraging
public
transportation.
But
let's
show
people
why
public
transportation
is
a
better
option
by
investing
in
those
systems,
not
by
forcing
it
upon
them.
N
It's
a
simple,
simple
solution
to
a
simple
problem:
David
Moritz
needs
to
include
parking
in
his
development.
If
he
refuses
the
city
government
rather
than
giving
him
a
subsidy
should
use
that
money
to
instead
create
a
free
shuttle
service
or
parking
garage
for
downtown
workers
as
a
downtown
worker
I
believe
the
development
is
a
complete
mess
and
is
grossly
out
of
touch
again
we're
real
people
with
real
lives
outside
of
our
jobs,
not
just
a
Workforce
to
be
housed
nearby
until
we're
needed.
I
asked
this.
Should
David
Morris
ask
for
a
city
subsidy.
N
A
AT
AT
The
swearing-in
ceremony
and
I
was
honored
to
be
given
a
reserve
seat
in
Miss
Mosley's
section.
It
was
like
being
in
first
class
without
the
snacks,
but
that's
okay.
It's
still
an
honor
and
I
got
a
big
old
hug
from
councilwoman
Smith,
which
was
fabulous
and
I
met.
Maggie
birth
through.
AT
And,
let's
see
I
just
wanted
to
say:
oh
yeah,
there's
some
history
that
was
made.
This
was
the
first
time
in
this
election
Arrangement,
where
we
have
a
staggered
every
other
year
for
four-year
term,
where
two
black
candidates
were
elected
in
the
same
election
cycle.
AT
The
last
time
that
happened
was
in
on
1989,
when
Gene
Ellison
joined
Willamina
Bratton
on
Council
and
back
then
the
entire
Council
was
elected
every
two
years,
so
you
had
two
black
candidates
out
of
seven,
and
this
year
you
had
two
black
candidates
out
of
three
so
that
more
than
doubled,
the
accomplishments
of
that
Council
and
you've
been
elected
for
four
years.
AT
When
there's
somebody
else
in
the
in
the
campaign
and
like
the
the
judges,
there's
a
little
bit
of
an
irony
to
sit,
talk
about
that
and
then
be
sworn
in
by
a
judge.
No
disrespect
to
that
judge.
Just
the
agency
that
she's
in
is
failing
in
democracy
and
I
appreciated
Kim
Roney
talking
about
the
Democracy
involved
in
the
selection
of
the
vice
mayor,
though
I
disagree,
I
think
it
would
be
better
if
the
people
chose
that
and
that,
of
course
would
be
solved
by
having
an
at-large
member
and,
of
course,
districts.
AT
We
don't
have
voting
districts,
that's
crazy,
and
there
was
one
other
thing:
I
was
going
to
say,
but
I
couldn't
remember.
Oh
yes
and,
of
course,
Vice
mayor
Kilgore.
Welcome
to
that
position,
I
appreciate
that
you
allowed
some
space
for
the
dissidents
as
I,
guess
in
the
community.
Of
course,
I
consider
myself
to
be
one
and
then
miss
Mosley
brought
a
dissident
vote
to
that
in
keeping
with
the
spirit
of
what
you
had
just
called
for.
So
it
was
a
fun
evening.
AT
A
A
So
so
we'll
stick
around
after
the
meeting
so
that
we
because
I've
got
some
other
people
signed
up
speaker,
I'm,
not
sure
if
they're
still
here
so
Mike
Martinez.
AV
Mayor
good
evening,
councilman
thanks
for
having
me
I'm
here
again
to
speak
to
you
about
live
music
being
authorized
at
Hazel,
Robinson
Amphitheater
in
Montford.
AV
I
know
I
spoke
to
you
last
time,
but
wanted
to
keep
keep
pushing
this
since
2018
we've
been
working
with
the
monster
part
players
to
expand
the
utilization
of
the
amphitheater
and
to
bring
more
diverse
crowds
and
cultural
events
to
the
space.
It
was
about
this
time
last
year
that
it
kind
of
caught
wind
of
folks
in
sit
in
the
city.
We
had
a
constructive
meeting,
seemingly
with
DSD
in
real
estate
and
Parks
and
Rec.
AV
In
that
meeting,
you
know
we
kind
of
talked
about
our
involvement
and
our
vision
for
the
space.
In
response
to
that
meeting,
we
were
asked
to
provide
more
more
information
about
how
we
were
in
compliance
with
zoning
and
noise
and
the
existing
leads
for
the
Monfort
players.
We
did
that
we
submitted
a
nine
page
response.
AV
To
the
mom
for
part
players,
basically
halting
concerts
for
this
2022
season
that
we
would
have
had
since
that
time
there
was
an
outpouring
of
support.
I
know
you
all
have
received
hundreds
of
emails
and
we
have
a
petition
going
from
the
Montford
neighborhood
and
we're
basically
here
pushing
this
and
continuing
to
push
it
on
on
their
behalf.
Since
that
time,
we've
also
followed
up
with
department
heads
of
of
legal
and
Parks
and
Rec
and
the
city
manager's
office.
AV
All
who
have
said
that
they
would,
you
know
legal
saying
they
would
consider
any
proposal
for
for
us
to
look
at
utilizing
the
space
and
our
vision
to
expand
the
utilization,
Parks
and
Rec
mentioned
that
they
would
listen
to
the
will
of
counsel
and
the
will
of
the
community
and
the
city
manager's
office
confirmed
that
concerts
can
resume
per
City
per
city
council
approval
and
under
Udo
7-14-2,
which
is
basically
City,
authorized
and
co-sponsored
event.
AV
But
really
it's
not
about
us
wanting
to
do
concerts
in
this
space.
It's
really
about
what
the
community
wants
and
the
feedback
we've
heard
from
them,
and
it's
a
great
Community
Asset.
So
my
question
to
the
city
is:
why
are
we
only
doing
Shakespeare
in
the
park?
Why
would
the
city
not
want
to
further
utilize
this
amazing
and
unique
asset
to
do
very
special
things
for
the
communities
in
which
we
serve
through
our
vision
and
the
work
we've
accomplished?
AV
We've
developed
a
proposed
operating
terms
that
some
of
some
of
which
we've
included,
including
engaging
with
non-profit
organizations,
to
help
host
benefit
concerts
and
events
to
raise
funds
and
awareness
to
support
the
organizations
and
their
missions
to
perform
Outreach
to
minority-owned
businesses
and
bypoc
businesses
and
non-profit
organizations
that
are
interested
in
vending
and
coming
to
the
coming
to
the
amphitheater
and
setting
up
booths
and
being
involved,
establishing
a
neighborhood
volunteer
program
reaching
out
to
community
colleges
and
high
schools
for
marketing
promotions
and
production
positions.
AV
We
really
want
this
to
happen
and
we
can't
do
it
without
without
your
help
and
seemingly
this
rest
was
on
on
your
shoulders.
Now.
Thank
you
and
we
look
forward
to
continuing
to
push
this
along
with
you.
Thank.
A
You
Jackson
Whitfield.
A
AW
Good
evening,
I'm
also
here
to
speak
about
live
music
Hazel,
Robinson
Amphitheater.
We
know
it's
been
a
long
night,
a
lot
on
the
agenda.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
It's
obviously
near
and
dear
to
Kyla
and
I,
but
many
others
who
have
attended
shows
we're
at
Community
engagement,
artistic
creation
and
bringing
together
together.
Different
backgrounds
has
always
been
at
the
our
main
goal.
AW
But
the
result
of
achieving
that
goal
was
Major
economic
impact
to
the
tune
of
over
one
million
dollars
to
local
businesses,
for
our
concert
season
last
year,
directly
benefiting
the
market
players
as
well
in
the
city-owned
amphitheater,
most
notably
the
paving
of
Jersey
Street,
which
was
a
major
safety
hazard.
AW
That
was
all
due
to
our
concerts
funds
that
were
raised,
and
you
know,
we've
heard
people,
you
know
talk
about,
affordable
housing,
and
you
know
the
struggle
of
living
in
this
town,
where
we
had
people
who
wanted
to
speak
to
the
necessity
of
the
jobs
and
how
much
they
relied
on
it.
But
we're
actually
busy
this
evening
working
second
and
third
jobs.
AW
I
could
and
couldn't
make
it,
but
really
really
left
left
a
void
in
their
income,
whether
when
the
concerts
were
canceled,
you
know,
art
artists
is
as
well
who
you
know
had
to
miss
miss
the
opportunity
to
have
a
gig
last
year,
and
you
know
also
wanted
to
be
here,
but
I
have
a
excerpt
from
a
letter
co-signed
by
local
musicians,
John
Stickley,
Lindsey,
Pruitt
and
Taylor
Martin,
and
they
have
said
that
we've
been
blessed
to
attend
concerts
at
Hazel
Robinson
Amphitheater,
both
as
fans
in
the
crowd
and
musicians
on
the
stage
We
Tour
nationally,
as
do
many
of
our
musical
Heroes
that
helped
put
this
town
on
the
map
and
all
agree
how
special
this
National
Amphitheater
is.
AW
We
strongly
urge
the
city
to
allow
concerts
to
continue.
We
have
faith
in
this
town
yet
fear
that
wasting
this
opportunity
is
equivalent
to
tearing
down
an
art
museum
Vic
Eisley,
president
of
explore,
Asheville
also
realizes
the
importance
of
live
music
to
this
town
and
specifically,
the
benefit
to
music,
Hazel,
Robson
Amphitheater
and
wrote
a
formal
letter
sharing
support
of
explore
Asheville
for
plugged
in
Productions
continuing
to
mount
shows
at
the
amphitheater
Hazel
Robinson
Amphitheater
is
another
utilized
City
asset
and
performance
program.
AW
There
have
helped
activate
the
facility
and
importantly,
help
support
the
Monfort
players.
We
recognize
the
balance
of
neighborhood
interests
and
City
facilities
and
believe
that
if
all
parties
work
together
collaboratively,
there
will
be
a
successful
Way
Forward
for
more
live
performances
at
the
venue
and
for
the
benefit
of
the
venue
and
community,
and
it's
that
is
that
balance
of
of
the
community
that
we're
trying
to
juggle
our
entire
concert
series
resulted
in
just
one
formal
noise
complaint
only
one,
and
that
was
before
we
had
even
the
chance
to
implement
noise.
AW
P
AB
One
thanks
thanks
Council
thanks
for
helping
me
I'm,
a
Montford,
neighbor
Montford
live
in
Montford
neighborhood,
my
wife
and
I
moved
here
about
12
years
ago.
We
vacationed
here
a
lot
before
that
came
here
where
we
play
outside
all
the
time
we
bicycle
High,
climb,
paddle
and
enjoy
music
and
the
music
is
what
brought
us
here
and
attending
some
of
the
events
at
the
amphitheater
has
been
incredible.
We
actually
went
to
the
amphitheater
this
past
weekend.
They
had
a
Charles
Dickens,
Christmas
Carol.
AB
They
did
this
weekend
for
a
short,
a
shorter
shortened
version
of
it,
but
we
had
I
think
the
this
past
year
we
had
attended
some
of
the
events,
the
concerts
that
the.
E
AB
Productions
had
had
had
and
thoroughly
enjoy
them.
I
think
that
the
we
have
a
lot
of
friends
that
are
in
the
music
community
and
they
are,
are,
you
know,
using
this
venue
to
help
support
them,
so
we're
we're.
Not
only
are
they
bringing
in
Acts
that
we
may
not
have
seen
at
some
other
venues
in
the
area
they're
supporting
our
local
musicians
and
they're,
certainly
important
as
friends
and
neighbors.
So
I
would
really
like
everyone
to
think.
E
AB
AB
A
Just
checking
we
don't
have
a
closed
session
tonight,
good,
okay,
all
right,
so
that
that
concludes
our
our
meeting
tonight.
We
we
can
stay
after
a
little
bit
to
talk
to
folks
around
the
Juneteenth
selection
issue.