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From YouTube: City Council Meeting – March 14, 2023
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Regular meeting of the Asheville City Council.
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A
B
B
If
you
could
just
please
take
one
moment
and
silence
your
cell
phones
and
if
you
haven't
already,
and
you
want
to
speak
tonight,
you
can
go
outside
in
the
hall
and
sign
up
to
speak,
and
probably
most
of
you
already
heard
that,
as
you
made
your
way
into
the
chamber,
we
do
have
an
overflow
room.
Maggie
do
we
have
folks
in
the
Overflow
room?
We
do
okay
and
if
you
could
please
rise
for
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
B
B
Now,
therefore,
I
Esther
mannheimer,
mayor
of
the
city
of
Asheville,
do
hereby
Proclaim
March
2023.
As
Red
Cross
month
in
the
city
of
Asheville,
and
encourage
all
to
recognize
the
daily
efforts
and
contributions
made
by
the
American
Red
Cross
in
our
community
and
across
our
nation,
in
its
vital
work
to
prevent
and
alleviate
human
suffering
in
the
face
of
emergencies,
foreign.
E
Hello,
everyone.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
this
important
recognition
for
the
Red,
Cross
and
I
know
we're
short
of
time,
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
for
the
Red
Cross,
everything
that
we
do
every
day
of
the
year
every
week,
every
hour
of
the
day
is
important,
because
our
mission
is
to
really
be
out
there
and
alleviate
human
suffering
and
do
all
we
can
to
prevent.
E
There
are
different
ways
that
all
of
you
here
today
can
support
that,
and
that
can
be
three
really
simple
ways
that
I'll
just
summarize
one
you
can
make
a
financial
donation
two.
You
can
donate
your
time
like
friends,
I
have
here
today
with
me.
There
are
our
board
members
and
board
chair
and
then
three.
The
other
thing
that
you
can
do
also
is
help
Save
a
Life
by
donating
blood.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
reach
out
to
us.
If
you
have
any
questions
in
which
also
we
can
help
you
as
well
help
others.
B
Okay,
moving
on
to
the
consent
agenda,
I've
got
a
request
to
pull
Item
B
from
the
consent
agenda.
This
is
the
park
facility
in
management
and
license
agreement.
So
we'll
talk
about
that
in
just
do
you
want
a
separate
vote
on
that?
Yes,
please,
yes,
okay,
so
do
I.
Have
a
motion
to
adopt
the
consent
agenda,
accept
Item,
B,
so
move.
Second,
all
right,
I
have
a
motion
a
second
and
one
Antoinette.
Then
Sage
got
it
yes,
okay,
I!
D
B
I
have
a
motion
to
adopt
to
approve
Item
B
on
the
consent
agenda.
B
F
My
understanding
was
that
we
would
benefit
and
have
shared
benefit
between
the
two
facilities,
but
now
it
looks
like
we
are
potentially
paying
up
to
171
thousand
dollars
over
the
life
of
a
potential
18-year
lease
without
me,
understanding
fully
what
the
programming
would
look
like
if
it
was
going
to
take
capacity
from
our
other
facilities,
which
are
in
a
lot
of
ways
over
programmed
and
have
some
unprogrammed
activity
as
well,
so
I'm
not
able
to
support
it
at
this
time.
So.
B
Do
we
want
the
Tyrell
mcgurt
to
it
to
or
do
we
have
someone
else
who
wants
to
speak
on
this
item?
I
see
them
all
the
way
in
the
back.
B
G
Basically,
yeah
the
benefit
for
the
city
of
Asheville
in
parks
and
Records
to
have
more
field
space.
We
know
that
we're
pretty
field
poor,
specifically
as
it
relates
to
rectangle
fields
or
multi-purpose
fields
and.
H
G
In
South
Asheville
benefits
to
overall
parts
and
Rec
Department
operation,
just
to
spill
out
a
few
programs
that
we're
currently
operating
out
of
Memorial
Stadium.
We
have
our
programs
adult
flag
football,
Youth,
Flag
Football.
We
also
partner
with
some
Community
groups
to
offer
Recreation
youth
football
and
cheerleading.
We
partnered
with
Asheville
City
Schools
to
be
able
to
host
some
of
their
athletic
events.
Asheville
Asheville
Empire,
Lacrosse,
Ultimate
Frisbee,
as
well
as
once
the
track
is
in,
we
hope
to
have
a
track
and
field
program.
G
We
have
other
youth
football
programs
that
want
to
utilize
the
space
field
hockey
and
then,
of
course,
we
have
a
number
of
pickup
groups
that
utilized
in
space.
So
you
can
imagine
all
those
demands
on
one
particular
space
leaves
a
lot
of
people
out
a
lot
of
times
so
being
able
to
have
an
additional
space
in
another
part
of
town,
helps
Asheville,
Parks
and
Rec
be
able
to
provide
more
services
to
the
people
that
live
here.
G
B
C
B
D
Thank
you
and
good
evening,
everyone
I'm
going
to
ask
for
our
I,
can't
believe
I
just
missed
her
name.
Thank
you,
Kim
Mormon
Sachs
to
come
up
and
give
the
presentation
on
the
American
Rescue
plan
act.
It
is
to
update
you
on
the
funding
that
we
received
and
will
provide
kind
of,
an
update
of
where
we
are
particularly
in
terms
of
our
contractual
arrangements
and
the
disbursement
of
the
funding.
So
Kim
I
apologize.
K
J
Update
you,
but
I
can
assure
you
that
it
has
been
the
Alpha
Project
has
been
moving
along.
We
started
and
I
think
the
last
time
I
spoke
to
you.
We
talked
about
the
robust
evaluation
process,
I'd
like
to
add
to
that
that
we've
also
done
a
lot
of
work
on
the
performance
aspect
of
these
projects
as
they
go
forward
and
what
it
looks
like
to
work
in
partnership
with
the
organizations
that
we
selected.
J
J
J
We
have
worked
very
hard
on
looking
at
the
outcomes
from
the
beginning
to
make
sure
that
these
projects
are
successful
for
us
and
the
community
as
we
go
forward.
So
we've
been
trying
to
work
in
in
a
different
way
in
partnership
with
the
organizations
and
I
think
having
that
freedom
to
discuss
with
us
what
they
want
to
achieve
and
how
to
achieve
it
without
too
many
restrictions,
as
far
as
the
performance
is
concerned,
has
been
a
very
positive
thing.
J
We
continue
to
work
with
the
city
very
closely,
sorry,
the
the
county
very
closely,
and
we
have
nine
shared
projects
of
the
15
external
projects
that
you
decided
to
go
forward
with
in
the
resolution.
In
may,
we
have
nine
of
them
that
are
shared
with
Buncombe
County.
We
have
a
bi-weekly
meeting
with
Buncombe
County,
the
Buncombe
County
team,
and
that
includes
for
a
number
of
these
projects
Dogwood
as
well,
because
Dogwood
are
involved
in
some
of
these
projects.
J
Just
as
a
reminder
reminder,
this
is
the
proof,
funding
categories
and
the
way
that
we
did
the
evaluation
score
is
just
to
go
through
again.
The
eligible
categories
for
the
projects
that
you
selected
and
voted
on
so
I
think
it's
important
to
go
through
the
timeline
as
well,
because
I
know
that
you
know
we
are
over
a
year
past
the
original
RFP
process,
and
you
know
coming
up
to
a
year
since
you
made
the
decision
in
the
May
resolution,
so
I
think
it's
important
to
talk
about
this
process.
J
After
the
initial
funding
awards
from
July,
we
took
a
slight
Hiatus
in
June
because
of
end
of
year
and
things
like
that
and
not
doing
new
contracts
at
that
point.
So
from
July
through
September
last
year
we
had
orientation
meetings
and
a
number
of
discussions
to
finalize
draft
contracts
with
the
funding
recipients
from
September
2022
to
November
22.
We
started
the
process
of
having
the
kickoff
meetings
and
those
kickoff
meetings
are
in
crucial
to
the
process
of
how
we
measure
the
performance.
J
So
we
had
to
with
the
draft
contracts
prior
to
the
kickoff
meetings,
get
to
the
point
where
the
recipients
were
comfortable
with
the
scope
of
work.
We
were
comfortable
with
the
scope
of
work
and
the
treasury
were
comfortable
with
the
scope
of
work,
because
that
was
also
an
important
aspect
of
this
whole
process
that
we
were
going
through
is
to
make
sure
that
we
were
adhering
to
the
treasury
criteria
and
rules
and
regulations
which
I
think.
As
you
know,
from
the
last
meeting,
they
are
an
ever-moving
Feast.
J
As
far
as
the
rules
and
regulations
plus
also,
there
was
a
major
change.
As
far
as
the
treasury
was
concerned,
the
dedicated
staff
that
were
working
on
the
arpa
project
from
the
treasury
perspective
were
disbanded
in
November
last
year,
so
the
response
times
from
any
questions
or
anything
to
the
treasury
is
significantly
longer
since
November.
J
So
you
know
sometimes
when
we
we
put
questions
through
the
treasury
to
see
whether
or
not
things
are
acceptable.
It
takes
a
a
long
time
to
get
the
answers,
but
we've
tried
to
mitigate
that
as
much
as
possible
and
push
forwards
from
December
we
completed
nearly
all
kickoffs
by
the
end
of
December.
J
J
Once
we
had
the
kickoffs,
we
could
then
move
to
putting
all
the
performance
and
the
compliance
reporting
that
was
needed
going
forward
into
the
contract.
So
we
did
draft
contracts
first
of
all,
then
we
did
the
kickoffs
and
then
the
final
draft
contract
that
was
had
to
be
reviewed
both
internally
and
externally
happened
between
March
and
December
and
March
this
year.
So
and
then
from
February.
J
We
did
actually
have
some
people
under
contract
so
which
it
seemed
to
be
a
long
hard
slog
to
get
to
that
point,
but
actually
I
think
we
were
very
diligent
and
we
followed
the
process
closely.
We
learned
from
Buncombe
County
because
their
first
set
of
contracts
that
went
through
have
had
to
be
Rewritten
and
their
second
batch
of
contracts.
J
We
work
closely
with
them
to
make
sure
that
our
contract,
their
contract
and
the
treasury
stipulations
were
very,
very
closely
adhered
to
and
we're
we're
on
Pace
with
Buncombe
County's
second
set
of
contracts
and
their
first
ones.
They
are
still
trying
to
rewrite
and
restructure
according
to
the
process.
J
So
as
far
as
our
implementation
process
is
concerned,
we
divided
the
sub-recipients
into
groups
so
that
we
could
stagger
the
onboarding,
because
again
we
had
to
go
through
the
draft
Contracting
the
kickoff
and
then
finalizing
the
performance
part
from
this.
Each
each
group
went
through
that
process.
Then
they
had
the
kickoff
after
the
kickoff.
The
contracts
were
finalized
and
signed
was
the
idea,
and
then
projects
are
initiated.
At
that
point,
there
is
ongoing
weekly
and
monthly
partnership
conversations
that
are
happening
between
us
and
the
partners.
J
J
I
wanted
to
just
spend
a
couple
of
minutes
talking
about
the
Contracting
process,
because
I
know
that
it's
felt
like
a
long
time.
Believe
me
working
in
it.
It's
felt
like
a
long
time
too,
but
we
we
were
constantly
working
with
the
partners
and
the
treasury
to
make
sure
that
the
contracts
were
acceptable
and
worked
for
everybody.
So
we
went
through
that
process.
J
But
one
of
the
the
challenges
that
we
had
before
we
actually
managed
to
detail
all
the
contracts
and
get
them
sent
out
was
we
needed
three
things
from
each
of
the
sub-recipients?
We
needed
a
Certificate
of
Insurance,
which
included
crime
liability
because
of
the
sums
of
money
that
we
were
actually
just
redistributing.
J
J
There
could
be
no
contracts
or
funds
dispersed
until
they
were
registered
on
that
process
and
then
also
they
had
to
be
registered
as
a
vendor
for
the
city
of
Asheville.
The
first
two
of
those
documents
have
been
the
slowest
part
of
this
process.
A
lot
of
our
sub-recipients
had
to
go
and
get
additional
crime
liability
insurance
and
getting
logged
on
the
Sam
system.
We
had,
for
example,
one
of
our
clients
and
in
fact
we
allowed
them
to
go
forward.
J
They
did
they
only
had
a
PO
Box
as
their
registered
address
with
the
bank.
The
Sam
system
will
not
accept
a
PO
Box
as
an
address,
so
they
had
to
change
the
address
with
the
bank
and
once
the
bank
had
changed
the
address
there
to
then
send
it
to
the
treasury
to
get
registered
on
the
Sam
system.
They
told
us
about
that.
J
We
spoke
to
the
treasury
and
we
were
allowed
to
go
forward
and
issue
their
contract
before
they
had
their
Sam's
number
because
they
were
in
in
that
process,
but
sometimes
getting
the
samp
getting
registered
on
the
Sam
system
took
three
four
five
weeks
for
people
to
go
to
that
process
and
the
same
with
certificates
of
insurance.
So
once
the
final
contract
was
sent
to
the
partners,
it
was
reviewed
and
signed
and
then
came
back
through
our
system
through
seamless,
docs
I
have
to
say
at
this
point.
J
I
wanted
to
just
thank
Tom
Downing
for
all
the
work
that
he.
J
He
was
the
one
that
actually
generated
all
the
contracts
and
did
that
process
for
us
within
within
the
city
and
also
the
other
staff
within
the
city
as
well,
because
as
the
process
went
through
and
it
was
reviewed,
people
were
really
did
on.
You
know,
reading
all
the
information
and
making
sure
that
we've
got
it
absolutely
right.
J
Once
the
fully
executed
contract
was
was
signed,
then
communist
and
it
was
loaded
onto
munis
and
the
treasury
portal,
and
then
we
began
dispersing
funds,
so
we
did
from
February
start
disbursing
funds
to
some
of
our
projects,
but
that
process
with
all
the
backups
and
forwards.
J
All
the
information
that
we
needed
to
get
from
from
the
partners
before
they
could
actually
have
a
fully
executed
contract
took
us
from
pretty
much
from
September
through
February
when
we
started
and
currently
we're
in
a
situation
where
there
is
six
outstanding
contracts
and
I'll
talk
to
you
about
those
in
just
a
second.
So
this
is
from
our
dashboard
on
on
the
website.
So
this
is
the
amount
of
funds
that
we
have.
J
We
got
in
the
first
place
the
number
of
projects,
the
totals
that
we've
awarded
so
far
and
then
the
total
spent,
so
we
have
actually
dispersed
close
on
seven
million
dollars
at
this
point.
J
So
these
are
all
the
projects
that
are
listed
and
the
ones
that
are
in
green
are
in
progress,
and
you
can
see
the
funds
that
have
spent
so
the
ones
that
we
have
where
we
have
dispersed
some
funds
in
their
eyes
is
some
currently
going
through
on
three
or
four
of
these
projects
to
the
tune
of
about
three
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Still,
that
is
just
going
through
accounts
payable
at
the
moment.
J
The
ones
that
are
in
White
on
here
that
I
have
not
have
are
not
fully
executed
at
the
minute.
Eagle
Market
Street
are
still
trying
to
get
certificates
of
insurance.
They
are
actually
a
Fiscal
Agent
for
health
advocacy
project
that
we're
doing
and
the
as
the
Fiscal
Agent
they
have
to
have
the
crime
liability,
so
we
have
been
working
with
them
at
the
minute
and
their
insurance
brokers
to
get
their
coverage
for
Eagle
Market
Street.
J
We
have
the
Certificate
of
Insurance
for
if,
if,
if
which
isn't
a
health
advocacy,
so
we're
still
waiting
for
that
and
at
that
point
we're
ready
to
go
with
that
contract.
Food
Connection
is
currently
going
through
seamless
stocks,
so
we
have
sent
it
out.
They
have
signed
it
and
it
is
coming
through.
It's
in
seamless
docks
at
the
moment,
Homewood
bound.
J
We
had
a
delay
on
their
kickoff
because
I
I'm
not
sure
if
you're
aware
they're,
they
lost
their
executive
director
and
there
was
a
new
one
coming
from
London
apparently,
but
who
who's
not
here
yet
so
they're
interim
Ed
came
to
the
kickoff
meeting,
which
we
had
in
January
and
they're
still
trying
to
get
their
stiffness
insurance
and
trying
to
get
that
all
agreed
at
the
moment.
J
Step
Up.
We
are
due
to
have
a
kickoff
meeting
with
them,
but
their
schedule
is
they
don't
need
to
start
until
July.
So
we
are
trying
to
just
arrange
the
kickoff,
so
they
can
come
in
and
then
we
can
get
that
the
contract
is
already
signed
because
Brian
was
previously
working
on
this
before
he
left
and
so
back
in
I.
Think
June
time
last
year,
I
think
we
kind
of
negotiated
the
contract.
J
So
when
we
have
the
kickoff
with
them,
we
will
go
through
that
process
and
then
issue
a
new
contract
to
get
them
to
sign
it,
and
then
it
will
go
through
to
be
fully
executed.
We
give
a
share
or
equal
plates
as
it
is
now
they
are
going
through
seamless
stocks
as
we
speak,
and
then
why
am
I
Cultural
Center?
J
We
were
waiting
for
a
certificate
of
insurance
for
them,
but
because
they've
had
some
change
in
in
their
leadership.
At
the
moment
we
are
having
a
second
kickoff
meeting,
that's
scheduled
for
the
week
after
next
with
their
interim
leadership
team
and
their
director
of
operations,
so
that
we
can
agree
what
the
Performance
Management
is
going
to
be
like
for
their
operational
options.
So
for
all
of
those
that
are
not
yet
under
contract,
we
are
very
close.
J
We
are
just
waiting
for
a
few
things
to
occur
so
that
we
can
get
them
under
contract
and
again
just
from
the
the
draft
or
the
sorry,
the
dashboard
on
the
website.
This
is
just
kind
of
what
it
looks
like
again.
A
summary-
and
you
can
see
where
the
funds
are
being
allocated
as
far
as
the
criteria
that
came
from
the
treasury
and
then
you
have
that
same
spreadsheet
we've
just
been
looking
at
on
the
last
page,
is
up
on
the
website.
J
I
think
at
the
moment,
the
only
one
that
was
under
question
was
the.
Why
am
I
because
of
their
change
in
circumstance
and
things
like
that,
but
we
have
met
with
Dogwood,
Buncombe,
County
and
and
why
am
I
themselves
and
we're
confident
that
they
have
the
right
direction
going
forward
and
nothing
is,
is
going
to
change
so
that
that
is
the
only
one.
So
far
that
there
has
been
any
question
about
I
think
it's
just
been
a
case
of
getting
certificates
of
insurance
and
things
like
that.
J
But
we're
confident
that
we've
put
mitigation
in
place
and
had
conversations
hard
conversations
with
ymi
about
what
happens
going
forward,
and
we
are
confident
that
we
can
still
go
ahead.
F
If
there
are
additional
funds
that
remain
unallocated,
because
I
was
looking
at
that
five-month
Contracting
period,
you
taught
about
September
through
February
two
questions.
What
timeline
are
we
up
against
in
being
able
to
Pivot
and
then
to
save
time?
Is
it
possible
to
revisit
High
ranked
applications
like
the
application
to
Pilot
Staffing
and
services
to
address
public
safety
issues
at
the
transit
center.
J
I
mean
I
think
we
we
know
now
what
the
timeline
is.
I
think
we've
got
much
more
experience
and
so
I
think
the
timeline
would
be
cut
down
to
probably
two
or
three
months
and
we
have
take.
We
have
to
expend
the
funds
by
December,
the
31st
2026.,
so
I
think
until
the
end
of
this
year
we
are
probably
comfortable
after
that.
J
I
think
we
would
probably
need
to
look
at
how
we
were
going
to
allocate
them,
depending
on
other
decisions
that
I
made
across
the
city
and
then
then
go
through
the
process
of
deciding
how
what
that
process
is
going
to
be.
So.
Thank
you,
but
I
think
at
the
moment,
I
don't
think.
There's
too
drastic
a
restriction
on
the
timeline
if
they
were
good.
J
I
think
you've
already
voted
on
this,
but
just
to
give
you
the
information,
the
Dogwood
funds
have
gone
through
and
both
abccm
and
Asheville
area
Habitat
for
Humanity
are
under
contract
for
both
sets
of
funding
the
arpa
funding.
We
in
essence
use
the
same
contract,
but
we
had
two
for
each
of
them
to
cover
the
Dogwood
funds
and
dog
we're
working
closely
with
Dogwood
as
well,
because
they
are
helping
they
are
willing
to
help
with
capacity
and
resources
for
all
of
the
projects.
J
If
there
is
a
need,
so
so
they.
Obviously,
this
is
a
matching
or
a
grant
that
match
these
two
specifically
because
we
applied
for
this,
but
they
are
involved
in
nearly
all
the
meetings
we
have
with
Buncombe
County
as
well,
because
they
are
willing
to
you,
know
kind
of
offer,
some
funds
to
help
with
capacity
building
and
things
within
the
organizations,
because
we're
asking
them
on
reporting
and
things
to
give
us
some
very
specific
information,
and
sometimes
their
resourcing
doesn't
run
to
that.
J
So
again,
I
think
that
the
whole
process
for
the
evaluation,
but
also
for
now
the
the
metrics
for
the
performance
and
I've
been
working
with
Eric
Jackson
and
Tom
Downing
in
all
of
our
kickoff
meetings
and
I
know
that
Eric
has
published
a
few
papers
on
the
process
that
we've
done
done
for
Performance,
Management
and
metrics,
and
one
that
just
went
out
recently
and
I
think
that
we're
very
proud
proud's,
probably
not
the
right
word
but
I,
think
we
have
been
very
creative
in
the
way
that
we're
doing
the
Performance
Management
and
this
partnership
management
and
the
projects
are
appreciating
it.
J
We
have
had
a
lot
of
positive
feedbacks
from
everybody
about
this
process,
so
I
think
it's
a
good
process.
J
I
think
it
should
be
published
because
you
know,
as
far
as
managing
projects
of
this
type
I
think
we
are
very
Innovative
and
have
been
very
creative
and
I
think
hopefully
going
forward
now,
whilst
the
projects
are
all
up
and
running,
you
should
see
some
more
and
I'm
hoping
to
get
some
some
of
the
projects
themselves
to
come
and
speak
to
you
about
the
the
process
that
they're
going
through
and
what
they
feel
about
it
and
I
think
that's
it.
J
And
we
we
meet
bi-weekly
with
with
Buncombe,
County
and
Dogwood
are
now
involved
in
that
process
and
then
also
with
specific
clients.
We're
also
meeting
with
them
bi-weekly,
so
I
think
the
communication
is
is,
has
really
benefited
everybody
and
we're
learning
as
we
go.
But
I
think
it's
been
a
learning
experience
for
all
of
us,
but
I
think
especially
for
the
projects
that
we're
working
with,
because
I
think
that
they've
got
a
voice
which
they
they
haven't
had
in
a
lot
of
situations
with
this
kind
of
Grant
before
I.
M
Think
there's
also
really
prepares
us
for
all
of
the
inflation
inflation
reduction
act.
Money
that's
coming
through
there's
so
much
more
Federal
resources
that
continue
to
be
opened
up
under
the
Biden
Administration
and
it
takes
work
to
be
prepared
to
receive
money
like
that
and
so
I
think.
We've
built
a
really
important
muscle,
yeah.
J
An
important
point
to
note
is
that
you
know
we've
had
to
this
is
so
unprecedented
that
we've
had
to
kind
of
develop
things
as
we've
gone
along
and
I
think
you
know
and
then
learning
to
work
with
the
treasury
as
they've
been
learning
to
manage
these
kinds
of
funds
as
well
has
been
horrendous
at
times,
but
also
you
know,
it's
been
an
exercise
in
patience
for
sure,
but
I
think
you
know
we
have
done
a
lot
to
research
and
mitigate
and
things
like
that
and
I
would
again
say
for
for
Eric,
Jackson
and
Tom
Downing,
who
have
you
know
other
things
to
do
in
their
day,
job
they've
been
invaluable
support
as
everybody
else
in
the
city
of
Asheville
I.
C
B
Okay.
That
concludes
the
manager's
report
for
this
evening.
People
who
need
to
make
their
getaway.
This
is
a
good
time
for
you
to
try
to
do
that
before
we
move
to
our
only
public
hearing,
which
is
a
public
hearing
to
consider
submission
to
the
U.S
Department
of
Housing
and
Urban
Development,
the
home
art
allocation
plan
and
Nikki
Reed
is
here
to
speak
on
this
item.
Great.
O
Thank
you
so
much
good
evening,
mayor
and
members
of
council
Nikki
Reed
I
am
the
director
of
the
community
and
economic
development
department
for
the
city,
so
Hallmark
funding
is
the
subject
of
our
public
hearing
tonight.
This
is
a
special
one-time
allocation
of
federal
home
funds
from
the
U.S
Department
of
Housing
and
Urban
Development.
O
So
as
far
as
home
ARP
has
set
forth
by
Hud,
there
is
a
specific
framework
for
the
expenditure
of
these
funds.
The
first
step
in
that
process
is
the
development
of
an
allocation
plan.
To
do
this,
the
city
has
engaged
a
consultant
Baker
Tilly
to
develop
the
allocation
plan
in
compliance
with
those
HUD
requirements.
So
at
this
point,
I
would
like
to
introduce
Ely
Mathis
with
Baker
Tilly,
to
walk
us
through
that
process
and
the
final
results
in
order
to
frame
up
the
public
hearing
tonight.
P
Q
Thanks
Becky
and
good
evening,
everybody
thank
you
for
having
us
here
to
present
on
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
again.
My
name
is
Ely
Mathis
I'm,
a
manager
with
Baker
Tilly's
housing
and
economic
development
team,
and
we've
been
working
on
housing
and
economic
development
grants
across
the
country
and
I've
been
doing
quite
a
bit
of
Home
ARP
allocation
plan
work
in
the
past
several
months
and
I
was
really
excited
to
see
the
Asheville
opportunity
come
around
I'm,
a
former
lot
former
Asheville
resident
and
City
employee.
Q
So
it's
great
to
be
back
and
working
with
you
all
and
I'm
also
joined
by
Baron
Bell
who's,
a
subconsultant
on
this
project
with
Baker
Tilly,
who
has
just
an
enormous
amount
of
experience
over
25
years,
I
think
working
with
HUD
and
Housing
Programs.
We
brought
a
wealth
of
expertise
to
the
project,
so
we
want
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
tonight,
taking
you
through
the
home
ARP
program
and
it's
actually
I,
don't
know
if
someone
planned
it,
but
it
actually
turned
out
great
to
have
the
ARP
update
prior
to
this
I.
Q
Don't
know
if
that
was
Maggie
planning
the
agenda.
Q
So
we'll
spend
a
couple
of
minutes
just
walking
through
the
home
ARP
program
and
explaining
some
of
the
the
guidelines
there
and
the
restrictions
and
then
I'd
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
data
collection
and
Community
engagement
process
that
we
went
through
and
then
finally,
we'll
take
a
look
at
some
of
the
recommendations
in
the
plan
for
this
4.7
million
dollars
of
Home
ARP
funding.
Q
Q
So
a
couple
of
key
takeaways
before
we
get
started
are
key
findings
that
we
went
found
during
the
process
and
you'll
probably
hear
me
mention
these
things
a
few
times,
because
we
really
want
to
drive
these
points
home.
But
the
first
item
is
again:
this
is
about
4.7
million
dollars
and
I
think
it
is
really
important
to
understand
that
it
is
a
one-time
allocation.
So
this
is
not
like
the
annual
recurring
home
funding.
Q
It's
also
targeted
specifically
at
homeless
individuals
or
families,
as
well
as
populations
that
are
at
risk
of
homelessness,
so
very
low
income
populations
and
the
allocation
plan
has
to
be
data
driven
and
based
on
public
engagement
and
consultation
with
service
providers.
So
I
think
that's
an
important
Point
too
I
certainly
don't
want
anyone
to
get
the
impression
that
this
is
Baker
Tilly's
plan
or
even
the
city
of
Asheville's
plan.
Q
Based
on
all
the
data
and
information
we've
collected
really
some
some
key
themes
have
come
across
and
there's
just
an
enormous
need
for
affordable
rental
housing
units
in
the
region,
as
well
as
additional
Supportive
Services
for
things
like
case
management,
mental
health
and
substance,
abuse
and
I
know,
that's
you
know,
I'm
sure,
that's
no
surprise
to
the
people
sitting
here
tonight.
So
we'll
take
you
through
some
of
this
information
that
what
we
heard
through
public
engagement
and
also
some
of
the
data
that
we
analyzed
to
come
to
these
conclusions.
Q
So
to
begin
with,
these
are
the
eligible
populations
for
the
home
ARP
program.
So
again,
we're
really
focusing
on
individuals
that
are
families
that
are
experiencing
homelessness
or
individuals
that
are
at
risk
of
homelessness,
and
we
can
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
in
a
minute
about
eligible
populations
and
specific
qualifying
characteristics.
Q
There's
also
on
the
right
hand.
Side
of
the
screen
here
is
the
four
kind
of
main
buckets
of
eligible
activities
for
home,
ARP
funding,
so
production
or
preservation
of
affordable
rental
housing,
tenant-based
rental
assistance,
Supportive
Services,
which
really
covers
a
pretty
broad
range
of
areas
of
services
and
then
purchase
and
development
of
non-congregate,
shelter
and
I
did
want
to
just
clarify
with
that.
Q
It
really
is
focusing
on
purchase
and
development,
so
operating
expenses
for
shelters
is
excluded
under
the
grant
and
also
want
to
clarify
that
within
the
allocation
plan,
we
include
an
allocation
table
for
the
funding
breakdown
between
these
different
activities.
We
don't
have
to
specify,
in
the
plan
at
this
point,
detail
Beyond
how
the
funding
would
be
broken
down
for
these,
so
the
example
of
Supportive
Services.
We
don't
need
to
identify
at
this
point
the
types
of
supported
services
that
are
included
just
what
percentage
of
the
overall
funding
that
category
would
receive.
Q
R
P
R
General
home
funds,
the
idea
is
to
make
rents
available
to
households
at
certain
income
levels
with
the
home
ARP
allocation.
We
have
the
qualifying
population
so
homeless
are
people
who
are
living
in
a
situation
or
a
location
is
not
fit
for
a
human
habitation
or
living
in
a
shelter.
This
slide
right
here
gives
you
definition
of
at
risk
of
homelessness.
So
the
first
thing
to
understand
about
at
risk
of
homelessness.
These
are
households
whose
incomes
are
at
30
percent
and
below
the
area
median
income.
R
So
in
our
chart
you
see
here
the
for
metro
Asheville.
The
median
income
for
a
single
person
is
56,
000,
56,
000
annual
adjust
that
for
a
one-person
household.
Sixteen
thousand
nine
hundred
is
thirty
percent
of
a
median
income
for
the
Asheville
area,
so
persons
that
at
extremely
low
income
at
thirty
percent,
are
considered
extremely
low
income
under
the
HUD
guidelines.
So
what
we've
done
here?
We
give
an
example
from
a
one-person
household.
Extremely
low
income
is
sixteen
nine
hundred
to
a
four-person
households.
Extreme
low
income
is
twenty
four
thousand
one
hundred.
R
So
once
they
have
that
income
with
30
and
Below
median
or
the
extremely
low
income,
then
they
have
if
they
have
one
of
these
other
housing
situations,
then
you're
at
risk
of
homelessness,
which
is
basically
have
insufficient
resources
to
immediately
get
housing,
make
sure
they
need
housing,
and
then
they
have
several
characteristics
move
frequently
because
of
economic
reason
lived
in
the
home
of
another
because
of
economic
hardship,
lives
in
a
hotel,
motel
or
lives
in
a
severely
overcrowded
housing,
which
is
a
situation
where
you
know
the
rooms.
In
a
home.
R
You
have
1.5
Point
persons
of
in
a
room.
That's
severely
overcrowded.
Q
And
so
this
is
a
list
of
the
Supportive
Services
category
and
I
won't
really
go
into
a
lot
of
detail
here,
but
we
did
want
to
show
this
slide
just
to
make
everyone
aware
that
it
is.
You
know
it
really
does
cover
a
broad
range
of
services.
All
the
way
from
you
know,
case
management
and
Mental,
Health
Services
to
Legal
Services
and
life
skills,
training
and
again
we
won't
within
the
plan.
Q
We
won't
go
into
the
level
of
detail
of
which
of
these
services
will
be
funding,
but
we
do
want
to
be
clear
that
it
is
a
broad
category
and
covers
you
know
a
lot
of
the
different
qualifying
populations
that
Baron
just
talked
about,
so
the
home
ARP
allocation
plans.
Again
this
is
required
for
the
participating
jurisdiction
to
receive
the
home
ARP
funding
and
at
a
minimum.
Q
The
plan
needs
to
describe
the
proposed
home
ARP
activities
and
how
the
funding
will
be
distributed
between
these
different
eligible
activity
categories
and
again,
HUD
is
going
to
be
ultimately
the
one
reviewing
and
approving
this
plan,
so
everything
we've
been
doing
is
based
on
HUD
guidelines
for
how
these
plans
need
to
be
completed
and
the
deadline
for
submitting
it
is
March
31st.
So
we
do
want
to
call
attention
to
that.
Just
to
point
out
that
it
is
a
really
Advanced
timeline.
Q
That's
an
announcement
that
HUD
made
I
think
just
before
the
holidays,
so
it
did
kind
of
catch
communities
across
the
country
off
guard
that
it
is
just
a
rapidly
approaching
deadline,
but
we
are
in
shape
to
get
the
plan
submitted
by
then,
and
these
are
the
key
components.
The
allocation
plan
has
to
include
and
will
be
as
we
go
through
the
presentation
we'll
touch
on
each
of
these,
but
the
first
two
components:
the
consultation
process
and
public
participation.
Q
Consultation
is
really
focused
specifically
on
stakeholder
agencies
and
organizations
that
work
specifically
with
the
qualifying
populations.
So
we
did
a
significant
amount
of
Outreach
with
these
groups
through
a
series
of
meetings
and
surveys
that
I'll
show
you
in
just
a
minute.
The
public
participation
process
is
much
broader
and
includes
any
member
of
the
public
and
that's
actually
still
kind
of
ongoing.
Q
We'll
also
walk
you
through
the
needs,
assessment
and
GAP
analysis
that
was
completed
to
show
the
level
of
need
within
the
community
and
then
finally,
we'll
be
looking
at
home,
ARP
activities
and
production
housing
goals,
which
will
determine
the
an
estimate
of
the
number
of
new,
affordable
housing
units
that
would
be
created
using
the
These
funds
and
the
preferences
and
the
refinancing
guidelines
these
two
items
at
the
end.
These
are
both
optional
under
Hud's
rules,
and
neither
of
them
are
actually
going
to
be
included
in
the
plan
for
this
region
preferences.
Q
Again,
it's
an
optional
activity
that
can
be
included.
Communities
can
identify
specific
populations
and
give
them
priority.
For
certain
funding
and
with
refinance
and
guidelines,
there
is
an
option
to
refinance
existing
debt
with
a
home,
ARP
funding
and
again
we
decided
not
to
address
either
one
of
those
in
the
plan.
Q
So,
to
start
the
consultation
process,
we
held
a
series
of
virtual
focus
group
meetings
with
stakeholder
organizations
and
because
of
the
regional
nature
of
the
Consortium,
we
actually
structured
this
a
little
bit
different
than
we
have
with
other
communities.
Previously
we
scheduled
four
different
meetings,
so
one
meeting
for
each
County
within
the
Consortium,
so
that
we
could
focus
on
specific
needs
within
those
geographies
and
a
total
of
51
agencies
were
invited
to
participate
in
the
focus
group
meetings.
And
ultimately,
we
had
42
individuals
representing
30
different
agencies
that
participated
in
at
least
one
focus
group.
Q
We
also
had
some
additional
phone
calls
and
direct
conversations
with
some
of
these
groups
that
weren't
able
to
attend
meetings
or
wanted
to
have
some
additional
feedback
after
the
meetings.
It's
a
really
strong
participation
across
the
board
and
really
three
different
areas
were
identified
as
kind
of
the
higher
priorities
for
using
the
home
ARP
funding
and
the
one
that
really
came
to
the
top
was
production
and
preservation
of
affordable
rental,
housing,
I,
would
say
really
kind
of
across
the
board.
Q
We
heard
that
that
was
the
highest
priority
again
I'm
sure,
not
a
huge
surprise
to
most
people
here
tonight.
Non-Congregate
shelter
was
also
something
that
was
definitely
discussed
quite
a
bit
and
Supportive
Services
was
a
major
priority
and
I
guess.
One
thing
to
note
here
too,
when
we
were
structuring
this
to
have
a
meeting
in
each
County.
I
actually
expected
there
to
be
a
pretty
significant
difference
in
what
we
heard
between
the
different
counties,
especially
with
the
more
rural
areas
and
I,
was
actually
surprised.
We
had
pretty
consistent
feedback
from
all
groups.
Q
I
didn't
hear
a
huge
disparity
between
what
the
the
priorities
were.
You
know
really
across
the
board.
Affordable
rental
housing
units
was
the
priority
in
addition
to
the
stakeholder
meetings.
Q
We
also
had
a
stakeholder
survey
that
was
really
meant
to
augment
what
we
heard
in
the
meetings
and
provide
you
know
additional
feedback
opportunity
for
people
who
were
able
to
attend,
and
if
someone
was
not
able
to
attend
the
meetings
they
could
complete
the
survey
and
we
had
34
responses
to
that
survey
again
focused
just
on
stakeholders
and
service
providers
and
the
entire
survey
is
included
as
an
attachment
to
the
allocation
plan.
So
you
can
go.
Q
Take
a
look
at
that
in
more
detail,
but
I
pulled
a
couple
of
questions
out
here
that
really
get
to
the
root
of
what
we're
trying
to
Define
within
the
allocation
plan.
So
this
first
question
we're
asking
about
what
is
the
the
highest
priority
issue
related
to
homelessness
in
the
region
and
91
percent
identified,
lack
of
affordable
rental
housing
as
the
highest
priority
issue?
Also,
six
percent
for
financial
assistance
or
tenant-based
rental
assistance,
and
then
three
percent
identified
lack
of
shelter
units.
Q
So
that
was
significant.
You
know
when
we've
done
this
in
the
past,
I,
don't
think.
We've
seen
that
a
significant
number
of
people
identifying
one
issue
like
that,
we
really
you
know
kind
of
see
a
broad
list
of
activities
there
that
are
listed
as
priorities,
so
that
was
significant
and
then
the
next
question
we're
really
trying
to
hone
in
specifically
on
the
use
of
the
home
ARP
funding.
So
we
ask
about
you
know,
given
that
these
are
the
priority
issues.
Q
How
should
this
funding
be
used
to
address
these
issues
and
again
79
percent
identified
development
of
affordable
housing
as
the
top
priority
still
definitely
some
interest
in
non-congregate,
shelter
and
rental
assistance,
as
well
as
some
for
non-profit
operating
assistance,
but
by
and
large
most
people
were
identifying
development
of
more
affordable
housing
is
the
top
priority.
Q
So
the
public
participation
process
again,
this
is-
is
still
ongoing,
but
the
the
first
part
of
the
first
step
in
this
process
was
a
public
survey
that
was
made
available
in
both
English
and
Spanish,
and
we
received
a
total
of
302
responses
to
that
survey,
which
is
pretty
significant.
It's
a
really
good
response
rate
based
on
the
other
communities
that
we've
worked
with
recently.
Q
We
I
pulled
a
couple
of
different
questions
from
here.
That
I
think
highlight
the
the
priorities
that
are
coming
across
from
that
survey
and
again
that
the
entire
survey
is
attached
to
the
allocation
plan.
If
you'd
like
to
look
at
it,
but
when
asked
to
rank
community
housing
needs,
construction
of
new,
affordable
housing
was
ranked
as
the
most
important
and
there's
a
screenshot
there
of
the
survey.
What
we've
done
is
with
most
of
these
questions,
we
allow
people
to
do
ranked
choice
so
they
can
identify.
Q
You
know
one
through
four
based
on
their
priorities,
but,
as
you
see
the
the
first
item
there,
construction
of
new,
affordable
housing
units
has
over
40
percent.
So
it's
kind
of
the
strong
favorite
of
the
priorities,
but
again
Stills
interest
in
shelters,
Supportive,
Services
and
housing
vouchers
or
tenant-based
rental
assistance.
B
B
Does
that
make
any
sense?
Well.
Q
So
this
is
the
public
survey,
so
I
think
the
one
you're
referencing
was
actually.
Q
So
again,
this
was
made
available
to
the
entire
public.
So
you're,
you
know
you
have
to
sort
of
take
that
with
a
grain
of
salt
they're
got
a
stakeholder
survey
is
really
kind
of
the
experts
in
the
industry.
Q
And
then
we
also
asked
some
questions
about
gaps
and
services
and
again,
even
though
we
don't
need
to
Define
within
the
plan
specific
types
of
services
that
will
be
funded.
We
still
wanted
to
take
this
opportunity
to
get
more
information
about
specific
services
that
are
needed,
and
this
really
was
was
pretty
telling
Mental
Health,
Services
and
substance.
Q
Abuse
treatment
really
were
the
biggest
priorities
here:
Mental
Health
Services,
you
see
there
in
red
and
then
most
of
the
individuals
that
identified
other
identified
substance
abuse
treatment,
and
there
were
also
a
lot
of
comments
that
many
people
kind
of
considered
the
two
linked
that
when
they
were
selecting
Mental
Health
Services,
they
were
talking
about
substance
abuse.
So
we
were
really
kind
of
looking
at
those
going
hand
in
hand
in
a
lot
of
cases,
but
that
was
telling
there's
definitely
a
huge
need
for
services
across
the
board,
but
mental
health
and
substance
abuse
specifically.
C
R
Incorporate
into
the
allocation
plan,
so
you
can
get
a
feel
for
everyone
to
get
an
understanding
how
the
data
actually
plays
a
role
into
the
impact
and
received
by
stakeholders
and
citizens
have
the
same
ideas.
You
know
based
upon
some
real
concrete
numbers,
so
this
particular
chart
here
we
deal
with
the
first
part
of
the
qualifying
population
or
number
one
qualifying
population
persons
who
are
homeless.
So
the
information
here
comes
from
the
point
in
time
survey
for
the
Asheville
region,
so
this
data
includes
Asheville
Buncombe,
Transylvania
Madison
in
Henderson
County.
R
So
these
are
special
calculations.
Just
for
this
ARP
plan
to
the
left
of
this,
you
see
the
current
inventory.
These
are
the
number
of
beds
that
were
available
for
certain
population
groups
on
January
1st,
so
the
takeaways
from
this
particular
chart
here
on
the
current
inventory
for
emergency
shelter.
We
have
33
units
and
67
beds
were
available.
R
Adult
only
beds,
233
for
transitional
housing.
Transitional
housing
is
a
housing
situation,
that's
only
for
a
24-month
period.
We
had
59
beds
and
21
units
available
for
families,
and
we
had
218
adult
only
beds.
We
have
permanent
Supportive
Housing,
but
we
had
118
beds
and
37
units
for
adults
only.
We
had
536
permanent
Supportive
Housing
beds
that
were
available
on
the
night
at
a
point
in
time
survey
and
then
we
have
other
permanent
housing
which
is
permanent.
Housing
is
subsidized
housing
for
persons
living.
R
There
do
not
require
certain
Supportive
Services
in
order
to
continue
their
residence.
So
the
thing
to
understand
from
this
is
the
number
of
veterans
that
have
transitional
housing
beds
or
a
number
of
beds
that
are
available
for
Veterans
for
transitional
housing
and
permanent
Supportive
Housing.
You
see
those
numbers
there,
174
and
382.
so
of
the
beds
that
are
available
in
the
region.
Veterans
have
the
majority
of
beds
for
transitional
housing
and
also
permanent
housing.
R
Now,
in
the
middle
of
the
chart,
we
have
the
homeless
population,
and
this
is
on
January
again
where
persons
go
out
and
try
to
enumerate
and
find
people
who
are
homeless,
taking
into
consideration
people
who
are
outside
living
in
a
car
living
in
a
park
and
also
people
who
are
already
residing
within
a
shelter.
R
So
what
we
have
here
and
these
datas
I
don't
like
to
say
good,
because
all
of
this
is
really
unfortunate,
but
for
families
we
had
34
families
on
the
point
of
time
survey
that
were
sheltered,
nine
unsheltered,
homeless
families
were
enumerated
as
compared
to
adults.
We
had
412
adults
only
that
were
residing
in
a
shelter
and
we
had
291
unsheltered
adults
during
the
point.
In
time,
survey
can.
C
R
F
Somebody
who
participated
in
the
point
in
time
count
I
know
the
public
is
very
concerned
and
watching
this
with
us
and
looking
for
Meaningful
action.
We
know
that
this
number
is
an
undercount
because
it's
really
hard
to
get
this
number.
So
this
is
as
close
a
picture
as
we
could
achieve
in
a
very
short
window.
A
year
ago,.
R
That
is
correct,
so
the
point
in
time
count
and
that's
why
I
emphasize
this
account.
That's
done
one
night
in
January
in
different
places
of
the
country.
You
might
get
more
account,
but
in
East
and
Northern
areas
you
don't
get
that
much
of
account,
so
this
data
should
not
be
seen
as
the
year-round
homelessness
impact.
It's
just
a
point
in
time
count
to
try
to
get
an
idea
on
any
given
night.
How
many?
What
was
the
impact
of
homelessness
in
a
region?
Thank.
F
R
And
consistent
with
that,
we
have
victims
of
domestic
violence.
During
the
point
in
time
survey
we
had
60
households
and
families
that
were
sheltered
in
41
that
were
unsheltered.
But
again,
that's
just
the
point
in
time.
Those
are
enumerated.
We
had
in
our
narrative
that
has
been
updated.
There
was
some
discrepancy
in
the
state
data
source
where
we
had
eight
persons
during
the
year
from
July
to.
T
R
That
reported
eight
referrals,
but
that
number
was
incorrect.
It
was
481
referrals
for
domestic
violence.
We
don't
know
from
that
data
source
of
those
persons
were
served
or
not
served,
but
at
this
point
in
time,
data
should
have
no
way
be
seen
as
an
annual
total
count.
So
the
idea
is
to
have
you
know,
units
available
for
persons
during
a
given
night,
but
not
for
the
entire
year.
The
data
that
you
see
on
this
chart
for
homeless
so
over
to
the
left.
We
have
the
Gap
analysis
now.
R
The
Gap
analysis
is
not
necessarily
a
calculation,
a
mathematical
calculation
about
the
numbers
you
see
here
and
some
of
the
numbers,
but
it's
a
lot
of
consultation
and
other
reports
that
exist
locally.
So
some
of
the
other
data
that
we
had
available
to
other
studies,
we
had
a
strategic,
a
five-year
strategic
plan
with
cdbg
and
home.
We
had
the
National
Alliance
in
homelessness,
Within,
Reach
report
and
based
upon
those
data
sources.
We
estimated
a
gap
of
60
additional
beds
or
15
units
for
families
and
200
35,
adult
bed
so
for
homelessness.
R
The
takeaway
is
that
the
adults
have
a
greater
homelessness
need
within
the
area
based
upon
this
data
than
do
families.
Okay.
Now
this
next
chart
deals
with
additional
data
for
the
ARP,
so
the
ARP
again
going
back
to
the
qualifying
populations
is
just
not
to
resolve
homelessness,
but
the
funds
are
also
available
for
persons
who
are
at
risk
of
homelessness,
and
then
we
have
also
persons
who
are
at
greatest
risk
of
housing
instability.
R
So
when
we
talk
about
persons
who
have
greater
risk
in
housing,
instability
we're
talking
about
affordable
rental
units,
the
need
for
affordable
rental
units
when
we
deal
with
that
population
group,
so
this
table
here
has
actual
data
that
doesn't
come
from
surveys
per
se,
but
this
is
a
HUD
data,
special
tabulations
provided
by
the
Census
Bureau.
They
do
it
for
HUD
each
year,
based
upon
the
American
Community
survey
data.
These
are
one
to
five.
These
are
five
year
estimates,
so
the
total
number
of
rental
units.
R
According
to
the
ACs,
we
had
63
000
rental
units
and
are
those
rental
units.
According
to
the
special
tabulated
data,
3528
of
those
units
were
available
to
households
extremely
low
income.
That's
30
percent
in
below
median,
and
we
had
11
445
units
available
for
folks
that
are
fifty
percent
and
Below
or
fifty
percent
to
31
of
the
median
area
income.
R
So
you
see
further
on
the
chart
at
zero
to
Thirty
of
Ami,
there
were
approximately
9463
households,
extremely
low
income
that
has
a
severe
housing
problem,
which
is
lacking
indoor
plumbing
kitchen
facilities,
1.5
more
persons
per
room
and
also
paying
rents
that
are
50
percent
of
their
monthly
income.
So
again,
at
extremely
low
income,
we
had
nine
thousand
four
sixty
three
and
the
data
showed
for
the
population
group
at
30
to
50
percent,
seven
thousand
twenty
eight.
So
by
this
we
came
up
with
a
gap
of
6115
households,
because
this
data
did
show.
R
Presumably,
if
it's
accurate,
that
there
were
enough
rental
units
available
to
households
at
50
percent
of
median
to
deal
with
those
who
are
severely
cost,
spurred
now
also
within
the
narrative.
We
have
some
other
data
just
to
give
you
some
numbers
here
so
from
a
2015
to
2019.
It
was
twenty
thousand
nine
hundred
and
forty
five
persons
who
are
extremely
low
income
in
the
region
and
of
these
people
of
these
households.
Fourteen
thousand
25
had
a
housing
problem.
R
10
115
were
paying
more
than
50
percent
of
their
incomes
for
rent
those
at
50
at
median
income.
Those
who
had
greatest
risk
of
housing
instability.
We
had
22
775
households
that
were
at
greatest
risk
of
housing,
instability,
11
000
of
those
being
owners,
ten
thousand
nine
sixty
five
renters
and
of
these
twelve
thousand
seven
hundred
and
forty
had
some
form
of
a
housing
problem.
R
So
the
numbers
do
show
that
the
persons
who
may
not
be
at
risk
of
homelessness
or
may
not
be
homeless
for
who
had
greatest
risk
of
housing
instability
because
of
the
market
here.
So
in
our
data
analysis,
Asheville
has
the
highest
fair
market
rents
or
the
highest
rents
in
any
region
in
the
state
of
North
Carolina.
So
when
you
have
those
very
high
rents,
it's
kind
of
like
a
bottleneck
effect
that
impacts
you
know
on
down
to
the
lower
income
levels.
R
So
that's
what
this
data
shows
is
that
there
are
a
lot
of
individual
who
could
afford
housing
if
units
were
available.
It's
a
great
great
need,
it's
a
great
great
need
for
everything,
but
in
terms
of
the
quantity,
the
terms
of
the
numbers,
there
are
a
lot
of
persons
who
had
greatest
risk
of
housing,
instability
that
could
afford
rents.
If
there
were
more
rental
units
available.
Q
Q
So
I
think
Baron
made
an
important
point
that
I
want
to
say
as
we're
walking
through
these
I'll
kind
of
take
you
through
each
of
these
line
by
line
but
across
the
board.
We
know,
there's
just
a
huge
amount
of
need
in
all
of
these
areas
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
make
these
projects
extremely
difficult.
There's
also
kind
of
a
risk
of
trying
to
fund
everything
and
then
not
having
enough
funding
in
one
particular
area
to
make
a
significant
impact
and
also
the
consideration
that
it
is.
Q
You
know,
one-time
allocation,
not
an
annual
funding
source.
So
all
of
these
factors
went
into
determining
which
eligible
activities
to
fund
with
a
program,
so
I'll
kind
of
start.
With
the
largest
item
here,
we
identified
66
percent
of
the
funding
to
go
towards
the
development
of
affordable
rental
housing.
So
that's
about
3.1
million
dollars
with
the
balance
of
program
dollars
going
towards
Supportive
Services,
that's
one
million
dollars
at
21
of
the
total
budget
and
then
there's
the
13
that
covers
the
administrative
and
planning
cost
of
administering
the
program
for
several
years.
Q
Q
But
really
what
we
heard
across
the
board
was
there's
kind
of
a
there's,
a
bottleneck
or
Log
Jam
with
the
housing
Continuum
in
the
region,
so
you're
in
a
situation
where,
with
tenant-based
rental
assistance,
for
instance,
with
your
existing
vouchers
over
50
percent
of
them
are
expiring
before
people
are
able
to
use
them
and
find
a
house,
that's
willing
to
accept
them.
So
there's
just
this
huge
need
for
affordable
units
so
that
we
can
maximize
the
use
of
existing
voucher
programs
with
non-congregate
shelter.
Q
There's
some
concern
about
the
high
cost
per
unit
of
shelters
and
not
being
able
to
allocate
operating
funding
for
those
so
again
with
it
being
a
one-time
allocation
and
no
operating
dollars.
The
risk
some
concerns
about
that
and
the
thinking
is
that
development
of
affordable
rental
units
combined
with
Supportive
Services,
is
going
to
help
relieve
some
of
the
pressure
with
non-congregate,
shelters
and
tenant-based
rental
assistance.
Q
If
we're
putting
more
units
in
the
marketplace,
we
can
better
utilize
voucher
programs
to
help
move
people
out
of
shelters
in
public
housing
and
into
permanent
housing
and
help
free
up
space
in
those
facilities.
And
again
this
you
know
this
isn't
Baker
Tilly's
recommendation
or
staff's
recommendation.
This
says
what
we've
developed,
based
on
reviewing
the
data,
the
consultations
that
we
had
the
public
feedback
really
kind
of
all.
Q
The
information
we've
been
gathering
for
the
last
several
months
has
pointed
in
this
direction
and
I
want
to
point
out
just
a
couple
other
things
before
we
shift
into
questions,
but
this
plan
we
presented
this
to
the
housing
Consortium
on
March
6th
and
there
were
a
couple
of
recommendations
for
some
pretty
minor
modifications
to
the
funding
chart.
I
just
showed,
which
really
just
resulted
in
shifting
additional
funding
towards
production
or
preservation
of
affordable
housing.
Q
So
these
changes
are
all
reflected
in
the
current
draft
and
that
was
officially
endorsed
by
the
housing
Consortium
on
March
6th
and
then
a
couple
of
important
dates
going
forward.
So
again,
we've
presented
and
received
the
endorsement
of
the
the
arhc
on
March
6th,
which
kicked
off
our
public
comment
period
and
that
will
continue
to
run
through
March
20th.
So
we
are
still
accepting
public
comment
and
reviewing
everything
that
we
receive
tonight
is
actually
the
public
hearing.
So
we're
not
asking
Council
to
approve
the
plan
tonight.
Q
We're
really
here
to
hear
from
the
public
give
them
a
forum
to
provide
feedback
to
us,
and
then
we
would
be
returning
with
the
final
plan
on
March
28th
so
that
we
can
get
final
approval
to
submit
to
hide
by
March,
31st,
okay
and
I
think
we
had
a
couple
more
slides
but
I'm
going
to
stop
there
just
to
make
sure
we
don't
run
too
far.
Every
time.
F
Yeah
I
guess
my
main
curiosity
is
like
when
I
zoom
in
and
I
see
the
intention
as
like
a
holistic
approach
with
this
pool
of
funds
and
also
the
need
for
regional
Partnerships
to
have
a
big
impact.
I'm
also
thinking
about
zooming
out
and
the
opioid
settlement
funds.
So
I
did
a
little
bit
of
digging
to
figure
out.
We've
got
Buncombe
County,
Madison,
Transylvania
and
Henderson.
Is
that
right
for
this
Regional
Consortium,
which
we
all
received?
Opioid
funds
and
so
I'm
wondering?
Q
Yeah
it's
a
great
question:
I
mean
we
did
look
I,
don't
know
that
we
were
specifically
honing
in
on
that
funding
source,
but
we
were
looking
holistically
across
the
board
at
what
services
are
currently
available
with
the
tenant-based
rental
assistance.
There
was
definitely
interest
in
doing
that.
But
again
there
was
a
lot
of
concern
about
putting
any
funding
towards
that
without
being
able
to
utilize
the
current
vouchers
and
I
think
they're.
One
thing
about
the
the
affordable
housing
funding
I
think
there
were.
Q
Q
Excuse
me
a
huge
demand
for
that
and
there's
projects
that
are
kind
of
primed
and
ready
to
go.
The
thinking
is,
we
can
put
the
money
towards
that
get
units
on
the
street
as
quick
as
possible,
and
there's
I
guess
just
that
hesitation
of
putting
money
into
that
that
voucher
program
when
there's
already
difficulty
utilizing.
What's
there.
F
And
is
there
any
conversation
and
I
said
you're
the
liaison
with
the
regional
Consortium
around
partnering
with
the
county
or
how
we
get
closer
to
that
30
Ami
I
think
we've
struggled
to
get
partnership
for
development
at
that
low
area,
immediate
income.
N
Does
the
Consortium
talked
about
partnership
with
the
county
to
achieve
lower
Amis?
No,
not
specifically
I
mean
this
particular
approach
and
how
Baker
Tilly
approached
it
was
to
really
seek
input
from
those
communities
about
what
they
needed
specifically
and
I
I.
Don't
think
we
ever
really
sat
down
and
said
now
that
we
all
know
we
need
more
low
income.
Who
are
we
going
to
look
to,
but
I
mean
it's
a
conversation
we
could
have.
This
has
been
pretty
studied.
Data
results
next
steps
kind
of
methodology
so
far.
R
N
Then
vouchers
know
it
it
does
and
just
because
I
know
we
tend
to
throw
out
Ami
and
percentages
a
lot
for
everyone.
Listening
like
when
you
hear
us
reviewing
affordable
housing
projects
and
targeting
80
Ami
and
then
also
saying
want
half
of
these
units
to
accept
vouchers.
That's
where
that's
what
we're
talking
about
here,
the
Gap
in
available
units
that
accept
housing
vouchers,
which
essentially
you
may
not
have
a
Housing,
Voucher,
I,
guess
30
up
to
50
Ami,
a
Housing
Voucher
will
cover.
N
So
if
you
are
a
30
Ami
resident,
you
are
hopefully
with
a
voucher
in
hand,
but
we
do
not
have
enough
units
for,
as
many
vouchers
are
issued
in
the
community,
so
we're
seeing
a
lot
go
back
unused.
So
that's
really
what
we're
speaking
to
here,
but
another
initiative
I
mean
the
county
talks
a
lot
about
their
goals
of
partnering
on
tax
credit
projects,
which
are
always
60,
Ami
or
lower.
So
in
a
sense
they're
already
Buncombe,
County
Commission
is
already
targeting.
F
N
No
I,
don't
think
so.
I,
don't
think
there's
any
limitation,
and
what
came
out
of
this
is
I
mean
I
chaired
this
commission.
So
every
year
we
do
about
two
and
a
half
million
one
and
a
half
1.2
million
in
funds
to
align
with
tax
credit
projects
and
another
million
or
so
for
services
and
programs.
And
this
to
me
I
mean
we
never
have
enough
every
year
when
we
sit
down
it's
never
enough
to
Eli's
point.
It
was
8
million
and
asked
last
time.
N
F
C
B
Any
other,
okay,
we
are
going
to
open
the
public
hearing
on
this
item
and
we
have
a
one
person
signed
up
to
speak.
First.
Let
me
just
remind
speakers
for
this
evening
that
you
will
have
three
minutes
to
speak.
Watch
the
lights
on
the
lectern
green
means,
go
orange
means
they're
almost
done,
and
red
and
the
buzzer
means
stop,
and
the
first
person
signed
up
to
speak
is
Cheryl
sermons.
U
Yeah,
can
everybody
hear
me
I
guess
what
my
problem
is:
I
moved
to
Asheville
and
I
know:
I
have
30
minutes
in
2020.,
I
had
plenty
of
money.
I
was
I'm,
disabled,
financially,
exploited
domestic
violence.
I
live
in
an
apartment
because
I'm
on
Social
Security
disability,
that
is
sixteen
hundred
dollars.
I
make
fifteen
hundred
dollars
I,
don't
know
where
to
go
for
vouchers.
U
U
U
I
want
to
be
able
to
go
to
school,
so
I
can
better
myself
I,
don't
know
how
to
get
funding
for
that
I.
Don't
know
how
to
get
vouchers.
So
I
can
see
if
my
apartment
complex
will
take
it
or
if
I
can
find
a
private
owner
of
a
home
or
a
town
home.
You
know
so
I
can
live
without
fear,
I
mean
this
is
again
and
then
someone
has
remotely
accessed
my
internet
I
know
who
it
is.
I
had
a
50b
against
that
person.
U
I've
had
people
come
to
my
house
to
look
at
it
all
and
they
said
I
need
a
cyber
forensic
person
because
they
have
never
seen
this
type
of
infiltration.
So
I
went
six
months
without
a
phone
without
internet
I
got
into
a
car
accident
in
July,
I
have
no
family
here,
I
couldn't
even
get
to
the
hospital,
and
no
one
cares.
I
told
I
mean,
and
it's
in
your
general
assembly,
I
told
Philip
Hardin
Stoney
Bevins
foreign.
C
U
Doesn't
do
me
any
good
and
I
know
it's
blinking,
but
who
will
help
me?
I
said
to
Philip
Hardin
I
said
so.
I'm
close
to
the
time.
Are
you
going
to
give
me
money
for
a
tent
I?
Don't
even
have
a
car
to
live
in
because
he
won't
sign
the
D
the
title
so
I
can
get
an
insurance.
So
this
is
from
July
I'm
58
years
old,
I
walk
to
the
store.
U
U
B
B
V
U
B
N
I
do
want
to
share
before
I
make
this
motion.
I
I
am
very
much
reminded
right
now.
B
B
We
do
have
some
people
in
the
Overflow
room
and
I.
Think
we've
got
some
seats
available
up
here
hold
on.
Let's
see
what
what
what
happens
here,
we
might,
we
might
even
have
like
almost
a
whole
row,
one
two.
C
B
C
B
And
this
is
under
new
business
and
it
is
a
resolution
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
sign
a
funding
letter
of
commitment
addressed
to
Major
League
Baseball
regarding
the
city's
intent
to
bring
McCormick
field
into
compliance
with
new
player
development
league
facility
standards.
But
it's
also
so
much
more
and
we're
going
to
hear
about
that
from
Chris,
coral
and
folks.
We
we
weren't
positive.
We
were
going
to
be
able
to
vote
on
this
tonight,
but
we
are
going
to
so.
B
So
thank
you
for
for
all
those
folks
that
are
here
attending
and
for
those
on
the
Overflow
room
and
the
gazillions
of
people
watching
on
TV
don't
be
nervous.
Chris,
sorry.
W
The
chance
good
evening,
mayor
city,
council,
Chris,
Coral,
director
of
community
and
Regional
Entertainment
facilities
for
the
city
here
to
talk
about
McCormick
today,
so
we'll
start
with
key
takeaways
I
know
we
just
went
through
this
in
the
budget
work
session,
so
I'll
try
to
go
a
little
quicker,
but
McCormick
field.
It's
a
regional
asset
currently
owned
by
the
city.
Over
the
years
it
hasn't
been
adequately
invested
in
the
facility
has
been
leased
out
and
principally
used
by
the
minor
league
baseball
team
there,
which
is
the
Asheville
Taurus.
W
As
you
know,
the
facility
should,
in
our
opinion
and
can
be
used
for
many
other
purposes,
sure
drive
a
broader
Community
benefit
and
a
funding
plan
would
require
team
investment,
County
investment,
City
investment,
TDA
investment
and
possibly,
if
we're
lucky
the
state
in
order
to
retain
majorly
baseball
affiliation
in
Asheville,
though
a
significant
Renovations
required,
and
we
would
need
a
commitment
for
that
renovation
by
April
1st
of
2023
later
this
month.
W
K
W
Asset
opened
in
1924
I
was
last
renovated
in
1992
it
seats
about
4,
000
people,
eight
and
a
quarter
Acres
on
the
total
property
and
it
replaced
the
stadium
down
on
Choctaw
Street.
Just
a
brief
history.
In
2022
Major
League
Baseball
issued
a
new
facility
standards
document
in
a
rubric
scoring
system
that
applies
beginning
on
April
1st
this
year.
It's
kind
of
like
a
health
score,
but
in
Reverse
you
want
to
have
low
numbers,
not
high
numbers.
W
The
goal
is
to
be
below
30
points
by
April
1st
of
this
year,
we're
currently
at
177.
So
we
know
we
are
not
going
to
meet
that.
Hence
the
need
for
a
funding
and
renovation
plan
to
Major
League
Baseball
in
2022
the
team
in
the
city.
We
started
our
negotiations
on
what
a
lease
structure
would
look
like
based
on
a
facility
renovation
and
last
month
on
the
14th
of
February.
We
had
a
council
work
session
with
the
Deep
dive
reviewed
options
and
took
some
recommended
Direction.
W
So
on
February
14th.
At
the
work
session,
we
heard
clearly
from
this
body
to
do
a
little
marking,
Community
engagement,
a
request
for
further
information
related
to
non-baseball
event,
Revenue
potential
and
to
further
explore
the
financial
model
seeking
additional
inputs
and
to
try
to
limit
the
impact
on
the
current
project.
Our
currently
budgeted
CIP
projects
step
one
Community
engagement.
We
met
with
East
End
and
Oakhurst
neighborhoods,
which
are
on
either
side
of
the
stadium
that
they
had
three
real
main
points
to
really
dig
deep
into
first
and
foremost,
parking
and
traffic.
W
W
We
heard
clearly
that
at
least
on
the
Oakhurst
side,
they
feel,
like
the
team,
does
a
really
good
job
on
parking
and
traffic
and
that
baseball
games
are
actually
not
a
problem.
It's
Memorial
Stadium
events
and
trying
to
find
a
way
to
work
together
better
there
on
the
East
End
side,
which
is
the
North
End
of
the
stadium,
there's
not
really
a
lot
of
traffic
and
parking
management
and
they've
had
an
ass
to
expand
that
management
to
the
north
side
of
the
stadium
as
well.
W
W
Another
asked
to
create
a
better
communication
and
notifications,
so
the
team
runs
a
text
program.
That's
opt-in
for
fireworks!
That
texts
you
I
believe
the
morning
of
the
event
to
say:
hey,
fireworks
are
being
shot
tonight
and
then
gives
you
a
five
minute
warning
before
the
first
one
explodes
in
the
air.
So
they
want
to
expand
that
the
best
we
can
to
include
include
all
other
programming.
So
anything
else,
that's
at
the
baseball
stadium
or
up
at
Memorial.
W
So
it
would
be
on
the
city
to
help
create
a
One-Stop
Shop
with
a
programming
calendar
that
includes
Parks
and
Rec
any
non-baseball
events
and
baseball
events
that
are
in
that
complex
of
stadiums
and
with
that
One-Stop
shop.
The
team
would
then
use
their
opt-in
text
notification
to
send
out,
for
example,
like
every
Monday
this.
These
are
the
events
coming
this
week
and
find
more
information
at
this
link,
so
the
neighborhoods
could
always
know
what's
coming
up
and
be
prepared.
W
So
with
that
feedback
we
made
some
slight
adjustments
to
the
deal
points
with
the
Taurus
parking
and
traffic.
The
club
has
agreed
to
manage
all
McCormick
events,
baseball
and
non-baseball
and
we're
in
talks
about
them
operating
the
parking
and
traffic
for
events
at
Memorial
Stadium,
an
additional
support
from
the
city
for
enforcement.
We
don't
know
what
that
looks
like
yet,
but
we
know
that's
something
we're
open
to
and
we
can
try
to
find
a
way
to
help
with
that
portion
of
the
project,
noise
and
fireworks.
W
The
team
has
revoked
the
requests
for
additional
fireworks
nights
and
amended
their
requests
for
the
ability
to
shoot
on
back-to-back
nights
to
apply
only
on
July
4th
and
only
when
July
4th
falls
on
a
Saturday,
which
is
three
times
in
the
next
20
years,
in
2026,
2037
and
2043.,
and
just
a
little
note
last
year
was
the
first
year
with
a
pitch
clock
and
earlier
start
times
the
team
moved
to
their
game
times
up
to
6
30,
so
the
average
firework
shot
was
at
9
26
PM,
compared
to
close
to
11
p.m.
A
I,
don't
really
have
a
question,
but
I
would
like
to
convey
a
great
deal
of
things
from
both
neighborhoods.
They
felt
that
the
engagement
you
provided
was
greater
than
as
usual
and
same
holds
true
for
the
baseball
club.
They
consider
the
tourists
a
neighbor
and
one
they
can
get
to
consensus
with
very
easily
so
I
want
to.
Thank
you
on
their
behalf.
Thank.
W
All
right
so
current
and
facility
current
and
future
facility
usage
who
attends
tourist
games
currently.
So
this
statistic
is
just
for
baseball
games.
It's
from
their
most
recent
economic
impact
report
showing
that
residents
of
Buncombe
County
that
are
not
City
residents
make
up
about
29
of
their
ticket
buyers.
Asheville
City
residents
about
23
percent
and
you'll
see
surrounding
counties
make
up
a
good
portion
too,
and
then
not
from
North
Carolina
about
16,
so
showing
it
really
is
a
Local's.
W
W
000
per
year
for
20
years,
all
of
these
estimates
are
best
case
scenarios.
None
of
these
have
been
committed
to
other
than
the
team.
At
this
point,
so
a
scenario
breakdown.
We
have
the
ability
to
add
in
a
facility
fee
on
tickets
sold
at
the
stadium,
for
example
like
50
cents,
on
every
general
admission
ticket
sold
that
could
come
100
to
the
city
that
we
could
use
to
offset
the
stat,
so
we're
recommending
that
facility
fee
be
put
in
place
if
no
State
funding
is
put
in
as
comes
to
the
table.
W
So
with
no
change
from
the
partners
and
the
facility
fee
instituted,
our
annual
payment
would
be
about
875
000
per
year
and
then,
depending
on
what
other
inputs
come
in,
that
payment
could
go
down
to
as
low
as
380
000,
like
we
discussed
earlier
in
the
budget
work
session,
so
two
million
dollar
fund
balance
being
a
big
one
of
upfront
cash
thinking
of
it
as
a
down
payment
on
your
mortgage,
for
example,
there's
a
state
funding
opportunity
that
may
come
through
the
state
budget
based
on
the
parameters
that
we
are
aware
of.
W
That
would
exist
if
this
goes
through
the
maximum
that
we
could
expect
for
any
one
project
is
5.4
million,
but
with
10
other
mining
modeling
teams
out
in
the
state.
It's
realistic
to
assume
that
it
would
be
more
in
the
three
million
dollar
threshold
so
that
630
to
485
numbers,
probably
realistic
if
the
state
money
comes
through
so
impact
on
CIP
projects.
W
So
if
we're
utilizing
fund
balance
no
effect
on
currently
planned
projects,
and
we
have
the
ability
to
incrementally
increase
the
CIP
contribution
over
the
next
two
to
three
years
up
to
the
total
of
the
new
debt
burden.
So
if
we
land
at
8.75
up
to
that,
if
we're
in
that
500
number
up
to
500
and
the
biggest
one
here
is
that
all
currently
planned
and
budgeted
projects
would
move
forward
as
scheduled.
W
Funding
this
question:
no:
will
the.
W
W
F
One
of
the
questions
I
had
earlier
that
I
think
probably
could
like
firm
up
a
little
bit
is
when
I'm
getting
questions
from
proximal
neighbors.
They
bring
up
issues
with
parking
issues
with
the
Hunt
Hill
facility.
What's
the
future
of
us
really
supporting
the
whole
area,
but
another
one
that
came
up,
that
I,
really
appreciated
and
added
to
my
understanding
is
folks
feel
like
we
don't
do
a
really
great
job,
maintaining
our
contracts.
F
We,
we
don't
do
a
great
job
of
maintaining
our
facilities
historically,
and
we
hear
the
word
deferred
maintenance,
a
lot
and
then
price
tag
gets
really
expensive.
So
I
think
one
of
the
questions
for
me
that
is
still
really
strong
today
is
what
happens
if
the
contract
fails?
What
are
our
mechanisms
for
ensuring
that
we
can
keep
our
deal
for
the
people
of
Asheville
and
maintain
this
facility.
X
That
is
an
excellent
question
and
I
will
always
start
by
saying
that
there
is
a
degree
of
risk
with
any
contract,
our
goal
as
City
staff
and
specifically
Chris
and
his
Department,
as
well
as
our
city,
attorney's
office
staff,
is
to
mitigate
that
risk
of
the
greatest
degree,
specifically
on
issues
that
you
brought
up
councilwoman
Roney.
In
this
particular
case,
we
are
looking
to
include
in
the
contract
as
a
cons
as
a
contractual
obligation,
a
guarantee
that
would
essentially
act
as
an
insurance
policy
for
the
contractual
fulfillment
by
the
team
in
this
case.
So.
C
C
X
This
language,
and
although
we're
still
trying
to
firm
up
exactly
the
details
of
that
any
vote
that
Council
takes
this
evening
to
authorize
moving
forward,
would
only
allow
us
to
go
for
it
and
finalize
those
kind
of
agreements.
So
we
would
not
be
entering
into
that
until
those
elements
were
finalized
included,
and
you
had
not
only
the
obligation
of
the
team,
but
the
obligation
of
that
Grand
Tour.
Excuse
me
that
guarantor
as
the
backup
option,
to
give
us
a
great
deal
more
protection
for
many
of
those
bad
situations.
F
I
also
just
wanted
to
say
things
that
brought
this
up
a
lot,
but
some
cities
are
losing
their
teams
and
would
like
to
have
our
team.
But
one
of
the
things
I
really
appreciated
was
that
we're
looking
at
that
creative
way
to
make
sure
that
there's
also
non-baseball
use
off-season
so
that
it
really
is
the
People's
Park
and
we
use
it
for
baseball,
but
it
can
also
be
for
graduations
and
weddings
and
and
winter
events
and
community
events,
neighborhood
events,
food
security
issues.
W
Thank
you
and
to
follow
on
Brad's
point
to
be
clear.
The
requests
tonight
is
just
to
approve
a
funding
letter
right,
so
we'll
be
back
later
with
the
approval
for
a
lease
when
we
get
through
probably
two
months
of
the
details
of
a
Leaf's
negotiation
and
getting
that
out.
We
have
the
deal
points,
but
now
we
have
to
write
it
so
that
would
come
later
so
back
to
the
key.
W
Takeaways
I
won't
go
through
this
again
for
the
fourth
time
today,
but
we
leave
it
with
a
staff
recommendation
of
a
motion
to
approve
a
resolution
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
sign
a
funding
letter
of
commitment
address
to
Major
League
Baseball
regarding
the
city's
intent
to
bring
McCormick
field
into
compliance
with
the
new
player
development
league
facility
standards.
O
C
B
Is
how
the
process
is
going
to
go?
Okay,
so
for
these
kinds
of
items
on
our
agenda,
a
meaning
under
new
business
or
old
business,
we
would
first
need
a
motion
to
approve
and
a
second
and
then
we
will
begin
taking
public
comment.
However,
also
Council,
if
you
have
questions
or
want
to
make
comments
before
we
do
that.
That's
fine,
too,
but
but
bottom
line
is
we'll
get
a
motion
in
a
second
and
then
we'll
begin
public
comment.
N
I'm
happy
to
make
a
baseball,
enthusiastic
promotion,
baseball,
enthusiastic
recommended
motion
up
there.
Let's
play
ball.
I
motion
to
approve
a
resolution
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
sign
a
funding
letter
of
commitment
addressed
to
Major
League
Baseball
regarding
the
city's
intent
to
bring
McCormick
field
into
compliance
with
new
player
development
league
facility
standards.
B
I
second,
okay:
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
and
we
do
have
a
bunch
of
people
signed
up
to
speak.
I
will
just
say
we
have
had
many
many
many
meetings
about
about
this
and
I
see
a
lot
of
new
faces
in
here
tonight.
So
I,
don't
know
if
you
all
probably
watched
every
single
one
of
them
on
our
YouTube
channel,
I
don't
know,
but
but
we
we.
This
has
come
a
long
way.
B
You
know
this.
This
has
been,
you
know,
kind
of
an
interesting
process
because
we
were
experiencing
covet
and
the
season
the
team
only
had
a
kind
of
a
normal
season.
B
If
you
will
this
last
summer,
and
this
we
had
a
kind
of
a
good
picture
of
what
this
could
look
like
personally
I,
you
know,
I
think
the
the
this
facility
needs
a
great
amount
of
investment
regardless,
but
it
is
a
great
opportunity
to
host
a
wonderful
baseball
team
and
a
family-friendly
fun
activity
for
people
to
enjoy
I'm
a
mom,
a
former
baseball
players.
B
But
despite
my
best
efforts,
I
ended
up
in
track
and
wrestling
and
stuff,
but
but
we
did,
we
did
baseball
through
middle
school,
but
it
is
you
know
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
opportunities
for
families
to
do
activities
in
our
in
our
city.
B
So
so
a
lot
of
neat
opportunities
there
I
am
I
got
married
in
1998
and
my
wedding
party
spent
thirsty
Thursday
having
fun
before
before
my
wedding
at
at
the
tourist
game.
So
a
lot,
it
just
makes
a
lot
of
memories
for
a
lot
of
people,
including
myself,
so
I'm
excited
that
we
I
think
we
have
figured
this
out.
It
is
it
is.
B
B
The
legislature
will
be
considering
this
funding
possibility
in
their
budget
cycle,
which
is
happening
now
so
after
everyone
leaves
here
start
sending
your
emails
that
you've
been
sending
to
us
to
your
to
your
county
officials,
to
your
state
representatives
to
see
what
other
funds
we
can
generate
for
this
project,
so
I,
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
landing
on
this
and
excited
to
hear
from
you
all
tonight.
I
know
I'm,
not
everyone
is
supportive,
but
we
have
gotten
a
lot
of
feedback
of
General
support
from
from
the
community
overall.
M
Been
with
a
couple,
thoughts
where
I
started
with
this
project
is
is
different
than
where
I'm
landing
we've
gotten
last
count
like
1700
emails.
M
I
have
not
read
all
of
them,
but
I've
read
like
most
of
them,
which
I
feel
like
I
might
deserve
a
cookie
for,
but
nonetheless,
there's
there's
a
there's
a
lot
of
people
talking
about
this
and
there's
a
lot
of
points
that
when
I
first
would
hear
a
concern
about
this
really
stuck
with
me
and
I
sat
and
I
chewed
on
it
and
I
talked
to
people
and
I
thought
about
it
and
I
crunched
numbers,
and
so
I
just
want
to
talk
through
some
of
the
things
that
were
most
concerning
to
me
and
where
I'm
kind
of
Landing
with
them.
M
The
first
one
is
that
I
really
needed
to
know.
If
we
were
going
to
say
yes,
what
were
we
going
to
have
to
say
no
to
that's
just
a
fiscal
responsibility
and
in
The
Proposal
that
we're
hearing
from
staff?
Today
we
don't
have
to
take
our
foot
off
the
gas
on
the
infrastructure
that
we're
currently
planned,
for
we
don't
need
to
delay
sidewalks
or
streets.
We
can
have
that
type
of
infrastructure,
Improvement
and
an
improved
outdoor
facility,
so
that
was
assuring.
M
The
second
thing
is
that
we
have
a
long
list
of
needs
and
I
mean
just
to
be
real.
Is
baseball
a
top
priority,
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
are
really
concerned
about
that
and
and
I
understand.
That
and
I.
Think
where
I
have
landed
is
that
we
do
have
so
many
challenges
in
our
community.
But
we
can't
only
focus
on
the
problems.
We
need
to
invest
in
the
good
things
too,
or
they'll
tarnish
and
right
now.
75
percent
of
the
people
that
come
to
this
space
are
us.
M
It's
like
one
of
the
only
places
I
can
think
of
That's
So
locally
focused,
and
we
need
to
keep
investing
in
the
places
that
keep
us
Asheville
we're
Buncombe,
County
and
really
the
third
concern
I
had
was.
Are
we
getting
a
fair
deal?
I
hear
a
lot
of
folks
saying:
okay,
are
we
spending
all
this
money
for
a
private
company
and
at
the
gracious
offer
of
this
team,
I
went
and
looked
at
tax
returns
for
five
years
on
Friday
and
then
I
was
like
I.
M
M
You
know
they're
they're
when
they
make
money
they're,
investing
it
back
into
the
team
they're,
making
an
honest
living
they're,
a
good
Community
partner
and
I
think
that
is
really
evidenced
in
the
amount
of
change
we've.
Seen
from
the
starting
proposal
to
this
final
proposal
of
the
partnership
that
we're
looking
at
and
those
three
things
took
me
a
long
time
up
until
honestly.
Yesterday
to
really
say
you
know
what
this
is
a
lot
of
money.
M
N
I
appreciate
that
input
that
was
good
I
just
want
to
share
one
perspective
and
that
I've
only
been
doing
this
a
couple
years
and
I've
always
been
wowed
by
the
level
of
emails.
We
get
they're
across
the
board,
but
all
the
time
we
hear
about
projects
we
hear
about
sidewalks.
We
hear
about
events,
we
hear
about
a
policy
here
and
there,
but
this
was
the
first
time
I
got
flooded
with
emails
about
a
family
experience
or
a
cherished
memory
or,
as
the
mayor
said,
a
wedding
party,
a
childhood
event.
N
I
mean
we
don't
get
a
lot
of
emails
like
that.
That
really
speak
to
the
experience
of
living
in
a
city
as
opposed
to
one
little
facet
like
it
really
spoke
to
the
way
that
this
institution
has
changed
and
impacted
lives
over
and
over
and
over,
and
just
want
to
share
that,
because
we
don't
get
that
a
lot
and
I
thought
it
meant
a
lot.
F
I
have
one
comment,
so
I
just
went
ahead
and
wrote
this
out
because
I've
been
thinking
a
lot
about
this
Asheville
has
been
pitched
a
narrative.
It's
either
tourists
or
no
baseball
at
our
public
McCormick
field.
I.
Think
there's
more
to
the
game,
including
how
and
when
our
public
park
facilities
use
and
who
benefits
I'm.
F
Considering
urgent
priorities
in
our
community,
I
honestly
struggled
to
put
this
on
the
front
burner,
so
I
took
a
behind
the
scenes.
Tour
of
the
facility
I
read
every
single
email.
Thank
you.
Some
of
you
actually
got
two
responses
back
which
informed
the
more
than
50
questions
I
presented
to
staff,
including
issues
around
Asheville's
goals
to
address
neighborhood,
resiliency
equity
and
engagement,
especially
the
historic
Easton,
Valley
Street
and
economic
development,
as
well
as
funding
Logistics
and
the
history
of
baseball
in
Asheville
and
this
facility,
including
the
champion
Asheville
Blues
of
1946
and
1947..
F
Thank
you
to
everyone.
Pitching
ideas
calling
for
support
of
affordable,
family-friendly
spaces
and
events.
I
know
we
can't
save
Minor
League
Baseball,
so
we've
been
asked
to
which
honestly
is
an
industry
extracts,
the
labor
of
players
and
I
know
we
can't
save
the
tourists,
which
is
up
to
the
management
of
the
owners
of
the
team,
but
I
can
root
for
the
home
team,
which
is
why
I
support
a
vastly
improved
contract
for
the
people
of
Asheville
and
the
maintenance
of
our
facility,
and
it's
why
I'm
calling
for
and
ready
to
support
this
better
contract.
N
B
Out
there,
so
so
I'm
gonna
call
the
speakers
in
order.
I'm,
gonna
and
I'm
gonna
tell
you
if
you're
on
deck
and
we
use
that
any
before
this
was
a
baseball
thing,
but
we
have
one
speaker
that
has
folks
that
have
deferred
to
them.
That's
Brian
dewine
he's
our
first
speaker,
so
we
have
three
people
Janie
who
Jane
you're
gonna
tell
us,
so
your
last
name
Janie
raise
your
hand
and
Alyssa
Quirk
and
Doug
Marr.
Yes,
okay,
so
the
three
of
you
have
deferred
your
time
to
Brian
dewine.
B
So
he
gets
to
have
10
minutes
and
then
you
all
are
seating.
Your
time.
So
you
won't
be
speaking
and
then
on.
Deck
is
going
to
be
Nina,
tovish,
so
Brian.
If
you'll
come
forward
and
you
have
up
to
10
minutes
to
speak.
T
B
You
first.
T
Of
all
I
appreciate
everyone.
Here's
work,
Chris's
work
all
the
city
staff
work
on
this.
It's
been
a
long
two
years
so
but
I
appreciate
your
work
on
this.
For
all
you
don't
know
me,
my
name
is
Brian
dewine
and
I'm
the
controlling
owner
of
the
Asheville
tourist.
13
years
ago,
my
wife
and
I
chose
to
move
to
Asheville
with
our
infant
son
to
raise
a
family
and
run
a
ballpark.
Our
community
will
be
proud
to
call
theirs.
Since
then,
we've
had
two
more
children,
both
born
at
Mission
Hospital.
T
Our
family
has
been
a
part
of
800
gangs
of
McCormick
field
at
each
one
of
those
games.
We
felt
like
a
steward
of
this
amazing
City
asset
from
cornfield.
We
have
worked
to
provide
safe
and
affordable
entertainment
to
our
community.
Baseball
is
a
game
of
numbers.
So
let's
talk
about
numbers:
9.8
million
dollar
annual
impact
600
000
a
year
in
cash
and
in-kind
Gifts,
180
000
fans
a
year,
140
000
that
local
nonprofits
earn.
While
working
our
concession
stands
the
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
need-based
scholarships.
We
do
each
year,
the.
G
T
T
What
about
these
numbers
and
take
us
into
Extra
Innings?
But
but
what
is
most
important
to
talk
about
is
what
we
cannot
measure
is
the
reason
we
moved
to
Asheville.
We
love
baseball,
but
we
love
what
minor
league
baseball
does
for
Community
more.
It
is
why
we
believe
this
ballpark
is
the
center
of
the
community.
This
team,
this
ball
play.
This
ballpark
is
a
place
for
our
city
to
connect
and
build
a
community
at
the
Ballpark.
T
We
cannot
measure
the
number
of
friends
we
Unite
with
the
first
dates
that
occur,
the
family,
bonding
moments
or
the
lives
are
enriched
and
then
there's
the
impact,
our
team,
our
staff
and
our
fans.
Many
are
here,
carry
out
to
the
community.
Just
last
week,
Mr
Moon
presented
my
daddy
taught
me
that,
with
a
check
to
support
their
work
with
youth,
Mr
Moon
visits
schools
regularly
to
read
to
students
and
host
a
reading
program
to
encourage
literacy
across
our
community.
T
One
of
my
favorite
stories,
I,
hear
over
and
over
again
is
about
community
members
and
I'm
sure
you
guys
all
heard
the
same
stories.
Community
members
who
took
their
sulky
teenagers
to
a
game
and
for
three
hours
dad
and
mom
were
cool
again.
The
cell
phone
stayed
in
the
pocket
and
they
had
a
blast
and
they
told
them
all
about
their
life.
T
The
number
one
reason
the
team
is
here
is
to
add
the
quality
of
life.
The
community.
This
ballpark
does
not
belong
to
one
person.
It
belongs
to
the
community
that
gathers
in
it
are
any
of
us
happy
that
there's
a
deadline
for
Major
League
Baseball
approaching
no,
but
does
the
ballpark
need
the
repairs,
the
upgrades
and
the
female
facilities?
Yes,
the
city
county
and
I
have
been
trusted
with
the
responsibility
of
making
sure
the
community
continue
to
gather,
build
relationships
and
make
memories.
T
B
First,
okay:
next
is
Nina
tovich
and
then
Bob
Kearney
is
on
Deck.
I
I
But
it
will
commit
TDA
funds
for
this
purpose
at
the
expense
of
other
alternatives
for
the
city
and
what
happens
if
the
TDA
funds
dry
up
for
some
reason
will
the
city
be
on
the
hook
for
the
balance,
but
the
commitment
of
the
tourists
is
I
believe
for
only
seven
years,
yet
we'll
be
paying
for
20
years,
no
matter
what
happens?
What,
if
MLB
withdraws
support
for
the
tourists?
What
if
the
tourists
go
belly
up
or
move?
What
happens
if
we
have
a
fancy
finished
facility
with
no
team
to
use
it?
I
I
For
me,
the
overall
question
remains:
is
this
truly
the
best
use
for
37
million
dollars
of
the
city's
limited
fiscal
resources
appreciated
hearing
from
councilwoman
Omen
that
she's
worked
through
this
and
she
believed
that
it
does
I
wish
I
could
say
that
I
was
also
convinced.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration.
B
H
H
H
The
value
of
the
tourists
would
rise
from
the
7
million
they
paid
for
it
in
2010
to
at
least
25
million,
with
all
the
new
amenities.
According
to
investment
bankers,
investment
experts
that
I
consulted
number
two
retain,
and
this
is
important-
retain
the
city.
The
naming
rights
to
McCormick
field,
bringing
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
to
the
city
instead
of
giving
it
away
for
20
years
to
the
tourists
and
third
reject
any
contractual
requirement
that
forces
the
city
to
make
future
unspecified.
H
Capital
Improvements
just
collect
the
rent
and
keep
it
there
are
thousands
upon
thousands
of
sports
events
televised
nationally,
not
just
college
and
pro
pro
versions
of
football
basketball
and
baseball
competition.
In
golf
tennis,
softball
gymnastics
boxing
and
mixed
martial
arts
all
get
there
to
air
time
throw
in
summer
and
winter
Olympics
World,
Cup
soccer,
Wimbledon,
Tennis,
Masters,
Golf,
auto
racing.
You
have
the
tip
of
the
iceberg,
and
yet,
with
a
hundred
and
twenty
minor
league
baseball
teams
in
this
country,
you
cannot
find
a
single
game
that
interests
the
world
of
television,
not
a
single
one.
H
H
B
H
B
You
guy
Skinner
and
then
Kevin
ring.
Y
My
name
is
Guy.
Skinner
I've
lived
here
a
long
time.
I
want
to
touch
on
all
your
points.
It
was
really
heartwarming
to
hear
you
know
the
fact
how
important
is
baseball,
I,
always
think
of
Field
of
Dreams
build
it.
You
know
Terence
man
peeled
it
that
will
come.
You
know
you
know.
I
I
I
was
going
to
have
had
a
lot
of
comments.
Oh
your
family,
and
so
you
know,
I
was
at
one
game
and
a
guy
from
Boston
had
his
bachelor
party
at
McCarthy
field.
C
Y
I
can
still
sit
there
and
close
my
eyes
and
feel
the
heat,
but
in
my
in
my
in
my
12
years
of
college
and
graduate
school,
I
had
some
comments
and,
and
then
I
realized
one
of
my
best
friends,
one
of
our
best
friends
from
Minnesota
who
said
all
these
those
Jared
Warner.
He
said
y'all
need
to
read
his
comments.
I
realized
that
he's
a
elementary
school
teacher
and
he's
much
more
eloquent
than
I
could
ever
be
and
and
part
of
it
involves
we
met.
Y
Then
in
2015
at
the
All-Star
Game
and
I
can't
read
his
comments
about
that,
because
I'm
about
to
cry
anyway,
but
he
says
he
says,
I've
been
blessed
to
have
gone
to
over
40
stadiums
in
minor
leagues
and
without
hesitation.
Mccormick
field
is
at
the
top
of
the
list.
I
live
in
Minnesota
and
yet
I've
been
more
tourist
games
than
any
other
Affiliated
teams,
the
ambience,
the
views,
the
people,
the
organization,
the
players
just
knowing
that
we're
watching
the
stars
of
Tomorrow.
Y
This
makes
the
difference
in
the
world
having
the
gem
of
a
stadium
and
all
its
story
passed
nestled
in
the
heart
of
the
Blue
Ridge
Mountains
is
pure
America
and,
and
you
know,
I
was
you
were
talking
about
watching
baseball
games
on
TV,
our
friends
in
Minnesota.
They
watch
every
game,
they
listen
they're,
always
talking
hey
I,
hear
Doug
and
after
the.
Y
Always
sit
in
their
their
opinion
on
you
know
what
happened
so
it
is.
It
is
more
than
a
look
as
much
as
it
is
local
and
we
love
it
and
it's
a
gem
of
ours.
You
know,
like
I,
said
20
26
of
the
people
from
out
of
North
Carolina.
We
have
friends
from
Ohio,
Minnesota
Tennessee,
all
these
people
they
come
in.
The
one
thing
they
have
in
common
is
that
we
want
to
go
to
a
tourist
game
that
and
Papas
and
Beer,
but
yeah.
C
S
Mayor
mannheimer
and
the
city
council,
my
name
is
Kevin
ring
and
I'm
hoping
you
will
support
this
proposal
this
evening.
The
tourists
have
published
many
impressive
figures
about
the
economic
impact
of
professional
baseball.
Here
in
Asheville
those
numbers
are
real
and
they
are
important.
They
are
not
the
reason
you
should
support
this.
The
history
of
the
field
is
important:
Babe,
Ruth,
Jackie,
Robinson,
Eddie,
Murray,
Cal,
Ripken
senior
and
Junior.
That
history
is
not
why
you
should
support
these
upgrades.
S
My
family
started
attending
tourist
games.
When
our
son
was
two
years
old,
he's
now
a
sophomore
playing
High
School
baseball.
When
we
first
attended
games
it
wasn't
because
he
hoped
we
hoped
he
would
become
a
baseball
player
or
even
develop
a
love
for
the
game.
It
was
because
it
was
an
affordable
way
to
go
out
with
the
family
and
have
a
fun
night
outside
of
baseball.
Our
son
had
his
bar
mitzvah
at
McCormick
field
during
covet,
when
that
was
the
only
place
that
anyone
could
really
gather.
S
Last
year
over
170
000
people
passed
through
the
gates
at
McCormick
field.
I
know
that
some
of
them
are
Die
Hard
seam
heads
that
simply
love
the
game
of
baseball,
but
if
you
pulled
the
crowd,
On
Any,
Given.
Ninth,
the
majority
are
there
for
the
reasons
that
I
started
going.
As
you
know,
Major
League
Baseball
has
made
it
clear
that
these
upgrades
are
mandatory
for
the
tourists
to
remain
in
Asheville.
It
was
a
blessing
that
Asheville
was
even
given
this
chance.
43
cities
lost
their
minor
league
teams
by
force
during
coven.
S
S
We
are
three
weeks
from
the
99th
anniversary
of
the
official
opening
of
McCormick
field,
and
your
decision
today
will
determine
the
future
of
professional
baseball
in
Asheville.
A
vote
against
these
improvements
is
a
vote
to
deny
the
next
five
generations
in
our
city
the
opportunity
that
we
have
all
been
afforded
to
have
an
affordable
night
out
with
our
family,
watching
the
most
uniquely
American
game.
Past
leaders
of
this
city
thought
this
so
important
to
protect.
They
actually
took
ownership
of
the
team
in
order
to
preserve
it.
S
The
city
is
fortunate
today
to
have
passionate
ownership
that
wants
to
keep
the
team
here.
I
know
that
there
are
always
competing
priorities
for
city
funding,
but
this
is
your
only
opportunity
to
save
professional
baseball
in
Asheville
and
the
gym
that
is
McCormick
field.
I.
Ask
that
you
please
vote
to
support
this
funding
and
preserve
the
future
of
professional
baseball
in
Asheville.
Thank.
B
V
So
I
had
two
two
of
my
other
boys
and
my
wife
were
here:
they've
already
dropped
out,
I
mean
honestly.
What
you
just
said
is
pretty
much
similar
to
what
I'm
going
to
say
is
here,
but
I'm
here
to
speak.
My
name
is
Frank
Capelli
from
Black
Mountain.
This
is
Charlie.
This
is
Leo
right
here.
He.
Z
V
Speak
on
behalf
of
the
citizens
of
our
region,
in
favor
of
funding
these
renovations
to
McCormick
field
that
have
been
pushed
upon,
the
city
of
Asheville
and
the
Asheville
Tourists
by
Major
League
Baseball.
Just
please
do
everything
you
can
to
keep
this
professional
team
here
in
Asheville
we
are
the
Envy
of
Charleston
West
Virginia
Bluefield
West
Virginia
Bristol
Virginia
Burlington
North
Carolina
Danville
Virginia
Elizabethton
Tennessee,
Greenville,
Tennessee,
Johnson,
City,
Tennessee,
Kingsport,
Tennessee,
Princeton,
West
Virginia.
Those
are
10
Regional
cities
within
a
couple
hours
drive
of
us
right
here.
V
They
all
had
minor
league
baseball
teams
back
in
2018..
They
don't
have
them
anymore.
They
didn't
have
a
choice.
They
didn't
have
a
say
whether
they
were
going
to
keep
their
baseball
teams.
Major
League
Baseball,
stripped
those
cities
of
their
teams.
They
didn't
ask
them
to
meet
halfway
without
a
thought
of
how
their
impact
of
that
decision
would
have
on
the
local
communities.
They
took
their
baseballs
and
went
home
42
cities
just
like
Asheville,
had
their
minor
league
teams
taken
away
a
couple
years
ago.
V
Asheville
is
not
a
television
market,
we
don't
have
the
advertising
dollars
of
the
Charlotte's
and
the
Atlantis
have
doesn't
mean
our
citizens.
Shouldn't
deserve
a
team
that
we
can
root
for
and
call
our
own
at
the
professional
level
we
lost
our
minor
league
hockey
team
a
few
years
ago.
Go
ask
our
your
colleagues
down
in
Greenville
how
they
like
having
the
Greenville
swamp.
Rabbits
minor
league
hockey
team
in
town
that
used
to
be
the
Asheville
smoke.
X
V
The
opportunity
that
42
cities,
just
like
ours,
didn't
have
just
three
years
ago
an
opportunity
that
the
citizens
of
those
cities
would
kill
for
I,
know
people
in
Johnson
City.
They
were
devastated
when
this
happened.
No,
it
might
seem
dramatic,
hyperbolic,
but
you've
got
the
power
to
make
sure
that
126
years
of
professional
baseball
continues
here
in
Black
Aaron
here
at
Asheville.
Excuse
me:
if
you
don't
act
now,
professional
Nashville
and
baseball
and
over
125
years
ceases
to
exist.
So
please
support
that.
Thank
you.
Yes,
Leo's
up
next,
okay.
V
AA
Here
to
talk
about
why
I
want
to
fund
the
stadium
Renovations
being
requested
by
Major
League
Baseball,
if
you
haven't
experienced
the
magic
yourself,
I,
remember,
recommend
you
go
take
in
a
game
a
few
or
a
few
of
the
season.
I
love
baseball
when
I'm,
not
playing
on
my
own
in
Black
Mountain.
My
favorite
thing
to
do
is
catch
a
tourist
game
over
at
McCormick
field.
In
fact,
some
of
my
fondest
life
memories
involve
watching
baseball
at.
P
AA
Oldest
baseball
stadium
in
minor
league
baseball,
the
best
is,
if
you
catch
a
game
on
Friday
night
during
the
summer.
If
you
time
it
just
right,
you
need
to
head
over
to
the
Dippin
Dot
stand
about
before
the
first
first
firework
can
set
off.
Nothing
is
more
magical
than
seeing
those
fireworks
exploding
in
the
warm
Asheville
summer
nights
over
McCormick
field
I
also
have
grown
up
at
McCormick
field.
My
dad
lets
my
brother
and
I
bring
seven
dollars
to
each
game
to
spend
it
on
whatever
we
want.
AA
AA
You
convince
your
brother
to
split
peanuts
with
you.
Then
you
can
both
get
still
get
your
own
Dippin
Dots.
Did
you
know
you
could
teach
Financial
literary
at
a
baseball
game
heck
my
dream?
Job
is
one
day
to
be
a
bat,
the
bat
boy
for
the
Taurus.
It
was
right
of
a
passage
for
me.
The
first
time
I
left
our
seats
and
ordered
something
from
the
concession
stand
on
my
own.
AA
Just
like
it
was
a
right
path
of
passage
for
my
little
brother
Daniel
last
season
when
he
was
first
allowed
to
leave
our
seats
to
fill
up
our
water
bottles
on
his
own
I
guess
you
can
say
that
I've
had
it
pretty
good
in
life
before
I
was
around
to
learn
a
lot
of
life's
lessons
at
McCormick
field.
If
you
don't
save
the
Taurus,
for
my
sake,
do
it
for
my
little
brothers,
Charlie
and
Teddy.
B
B
All
right
do
we
have
a
Ken,
Grant
and
then
Russ
rowers.
AB
You
know
I'm,
obviously,
here
to
support
the
funding
of
the
of
McCormick
field
and
I
wanted
to
give
you
just
a
glimpse
of
my
personal
experience,
working
at
the
stadium
and
also
I'm
a
lifelong
baseball
fan
and
I've
traveled
across
the
country
going
to
minor
league
baseball
stadiums
and
I
can
tell
you
without
a
doubt
that
McCormick
field
is
is
second
to
none
and
we
are
very
lucky
to
have
it
and
I'm.
I
am
really
pleased
to
hear
some
of
the
positive
comments
from
the
council
and
I'm.
AB
You
know
looking
forward
to
many
more
years
of
having
our
team
here
and
having
a
great
facility
that
the
whole
Community
can
be
proud
of.
I
I
also
see
from
the
the
presentations.
Obviously
you
know
all
the
economic
data,
and
that's
not
really
my
role
to
to
talk
about
that.
AB
But
from
a
personal
experience,
I
can
tell
you
that,
when
I'm
at
the
stadium,
I
can
feel
the
strong
connection
between
the
fans,
the
team,
the
and
the
stadium
itself,
the
history
and
the
City
of
Asheville
and
the
players
have
the
word
Asheville
on
their
Jersey
or
at
least
when
they're
on
the
road,
and
it
brings
a
lot
of
civic
pride
to
all
of
us
and
it's
very
important
that
we
keep
this
team
I
see
when
I'm
at
the
stadium,
a
really
diverse
fan,
base
and
I
see
a
lot
of
children
and
that's
the
best
part
I
see
a
lot
of
kids
like
Leo
is
up
here
and
I
I
get
the
privilege
of
handing
out
little
buttons.
AB
That
say
this
is
my
first
Taurus
game
and
the
faces
light
up
and
I
and
I.
Remember
myself
when
I
was
a
child
and
I
saw
a
professional
baseball
stadium
for
the
first
time
and
I'll,
never
forget
that
feeling
and
that's
something
that
we
can
give
we're
in
a
small
town.
We
can
give
that
to
our
children
and
our
town
and
that's
priceless.
We
are
very
lucky
that
we're
you
know.
We
have
the
ability
to
do
that.
AB
A
professional
sports
team
in
the
city
really
puts
the
city
on
the
map,
and
I
can
tell
you
it's
how
startling
it
is
to
see
the
differences
in
I've
been
to
places
where
there
used
to
be
a
team,
because
I'm
curious
about
baseball
history
and
I
can
see
the
devastation
I,
see
stadiums
filled
with
graffiti
and
overgrown
weeds,
and
it's
really
sad
and
you
can.
You
can
feel
it
in
the
town.
AB
Things
about
the
role
of
government
is
to
do
big
things
that
we
can't
do
ourselves,
and
this
is
a
big
thing
that
we
can't
do
ourselves
and
it's
so
important,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
wonderful
Legacy
that
you're
going
to
leave
to
this
city
and
it's
going
to
be
great
for
baseball.
But
it's
also
going
to
be
great
for
other
events
and
it's
going
to
be
a
sparkling
gem.
Thank.
AC
Got
a
lot
more
at
home.
So
do
these
folks
too
good
evening,
mayor
and
Council,
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
address
you
tonight,
I've
been
a
lifelong
baseball
fan
and
I've
been
in
Asheville
since
2000,
and
have
regularly
attended
tourist
games
throughout
that
time.
Probably
neighborhood
of
200
200
games.
That's
a
lot
of
peanuts
and
beer
through
the
years
I
look
at
it
in
the
audience.
AC
I
see
a
lot
of
season
ticket
holders
that
have
been
to
probably
thousands
of
games
over
the
years
and
it's
you
know,
you've
already
heard
from
Chris
and
others
about
some
of
the
economic
benefits,
and
you
know
all
the
statistics
and
that
Brian
presented
I
wanted
to
bring
it
kind
of
a
personal
level.
AC
I
have
been
to
a
lot
of
minor
league
baseball
parks
around
the
country
through
the
years
I've
been
to
some
within
the
Sally
League
that
the
tourists
play
in
and
most
of
those
are
much
newer
and
much
much
better
condition
than
what
we
have.
We
have
a
great
historic
ballpark,
but
it's
one
that
really
needs
to
be
upgraded
to
to
stay
competitive,
Within
within
the
the
industry
and
within
for
the
team
itself
and
for
and
for
the
fans
to
to.
AC
I
want
to
just
take
it
down
to
a
personal
level.
I
brought
my
son
to
a
game
when
he
was
less
than
a
year
old.
A
few
years
later
he
had
a
a
birthday
party
there
and
then
his
first
paycheck
as
a
14
year
old
was
as
a
bat
boy
for
the
Asheville
tour.
So
Leo
you
can
start
when
you're
14
to.
AC
And
this
is
this:
is
my
son
in
The
Dugout,
with
one
of
the
players
celebrating
their
birthday
together
few
years
ago,
and
he
cherished
the
two
seasons
that
he
had
to
play.
I
had
to
be
a
bat
boy.
I
also
want
to
bring
a
personal
connection
from
a
business
standpoint,
I
own,
a
business
called
second
gear,
and
we
advertise
with
the
tourists.
AC
We've
spent
thousands
of
dollars
advertising
and
so,
as
a
term
goes,
I
think
we
put
our
money
where
our
mouth
is
and
I
think
other
businesses
see
the
value
too,
of
the
connections
they
can
make
with
both
the
with
attendees
and
other
businesses
that
that
are
supporting
supporting
the
team.
Finally,
I
wanted
to
say
about
on
a
personal
level
of
all
the
the
employees
that
are
that
work
for
the
tourists.
AC
B
K
I
I
moved
here
not
quite
two
years
ago
from
Colorado
and
as
looking
for
a
place
to
move
to
when
I
retired
I
was
looking
for
more
moderate
climate
than
Colorado
I
was
looking
for
a
less
true,
less
traffic.
K
You
might
think
the
traffic's
bad
here,
but
go
check
it
out
in
metro,
Denver,
and
but
the
primary
thing
that
brought
me
here
was
that
we
had
a
baseball
team
and
I've
been
to
the
tourists
have
played
roughly
100
games
since
I've
been
here
and
I've
attended
all,
but
four
of
them
because
and
the
only
reason
I
missed.
Those
four
is
I
was
out
of
town.
K
B
O
C
Z
Visual,
that's
all
right!
That's
that's!
Quite
all
right,
my
name
is
Jonathan
Wayne
Scott
I
lived
in
Asheville
for
24
years.
Clearly
this
is
being
funded.
I
don't
want
to
see
the
tourists
go
anywhere,
so
I'm
not
trying
to
tell
you
not
to
do
it.
I
did
want
to
thank
you
for
having
an
updated
lease.
Z
It
was
I
believe
in
2018,
I
came
to
council
and
and
pointed
out
that
the
lease
had
expired
in
2016
and
it
hadn't
even
been
renewed
and
I
think
we
had
to
wait
until
we
had
Deborah
Campbell
on
board
as
a
full
manager.
That
was
the
first
thing
that
you
did
on
your
first
night
of
being.
A
manager
was
to
renew
the
lease
here,
so
it
did
get
a
a
little
bit
sloppy,
so
I'm
glad
that
that's
happening.
Z
Of
course,
I
would
like
to
talk
about
the
tourism
Development
Authority
and
how
it
should
be
their
responsibility
for
paying
for
this.
It's
not
the
role
of
government.
To
do
this.
It's
the
role
of
a
quasi-governmental
agency
called
the
tourism
Development
Authority,
who
is
collecting
46
million
million
dollars
a
year,
half
of
which
needs
to
go
into
the
tourism
Product
Development
Fund
for
prod
projects.
Exactly
like
this
they're
collecting
two
million
dollars
a
month.
Z
They
could
pay
for
this
entire
project
in
a
year
and
a
half
and
we
wouldn't
have
to
pay
for
any
of
it.
So
you
know
the
fact
that
taxpayers,
as
the
city
of
Asheville
taxpayers,
are
on
the
hook
for
it.
Buncombe
County
taxpayers
are
on
the
hook
for
it,
North
Carolina
state
taxpayers
are
on
the
hook
for
it.
If
we
get
the
Grant
and
I
heard
a
lot
of
ifs,
this
happens.
Hopefully
this
will
happen.
Z
We
don't
even
have
a
drawing
of
anything
yet
and
we're
going
to
commit
to
the
funding
on
this
I
think
the
questions
of
like
what
happens.
If
this
gets
half
built-
and
it
you
know-
doesn't
come
through
I've,
never
seen
anything
come
be
done
on
time
and
on
budget-
and
this
is
very
last
minute
here
and
I
would
also
point
out
that
the
9.8
million
dollars
this
contributes
to
the
local
economy.
We
have
a
four
and
a
half
billion
dollar
tourism
economy
now
here
in
Asheville.
Z
So
this
is
a
tiny
drop
in
the
bucket
10
million
dollars
versus
four
thousand
five
hundred
million
dollars
is
the
factor
by
which
you
know
this.
Great
economic
impact
is
I.
Just
don't
think
it's
the
responsibility
of
the
city
anymore.
To
do
this,
I
want
my
streets
paved,
you
know
and
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
that
any
sooner.
By
doing
this,
the
benefit
of
the
tourists.
Z
You
know
tax
here
that
the
hotel
tax,
the
room
tax,
whatever
you
want
to
call
it-
is
to
alleviate
our
property
tax
burden
and
they're
not
doing
it.
I
mean
they're,
just
so
greedy
over
there.
It's
just
absolutely
disgusting
that
they're
not
gonna.
Let
go
of
this
money,
it's
their
job,
to
build
this
stuff.
It's
not
our
job.
Z
To
do
it,
and
so
it's
probably
a
good
thing
we
didn't
have
the
visuals
I
was
going
to
compare
the
length
of
a
hot
dog
bun
to
the
anyway,
so
anyway,
I
know
that
you're
going
to
vote
for
this
and
yeah
I'm
glad
I'm
glad
that
the
city's
got
the
tourists.
It's
just,
not
our
job
anymore.
To
do
that,
for
them.
B
AD
First
time
ever
speaking
and
part
of
the
soccer
community
and
have
nothing
against
baseball
at
all,
but
after
sort
of
sitting
on
the
sideline
of
the
Memorial
Stadium
discussion
and
finding
out
that
it's
not
going
to
be
wide
enough
to
Hal's
USL
soccer
I'm,
not
part
of
that
organization.
But
you
know
the
women's
team
did
have
record-setting
attendance
last
year.
They
have
a
diverse
ownership
group,
minority
owned,
diverse
inclusive
community.
In
the
soccer
Community
there
are
only
black
or
minority
owners
in
the
MLS
they're
basketball
players.
AD
AD
Okay,
so
records,
where
do
I
need
to
start
start.
AD
So
I
put
on
the
beer,
City
cup
and
now
Memorial
Stadium
is
not
wide
enough,
so
that
we
can't
host
the
finals
there.
We
did
that
for
the
first
eight
years,
Dem
Bradford
did
an
economic
study
on
the
tournament.
We
have
a
3.1
million
dollar
impact.
In
two
days
the
tourists
are
pulling
in
9.8
in
70
games.
I
know
that's
a
small
drop
in
the
bucket
where
a
smaller
drop
in
the
bucket,
but
it
is
a
big
impact
in
two
days
bigger
than
the
Billie
Jean
King
tennis
tournament.
AD
I
do
agree
that
we
shouldn't
be
using
our
tax
dollars
to
subsidize
a
for-profit
private
entity,
especially
since
it's
based
out
of
state
it's
at
least
10
times
more
and
more
putting
forward
towards
Memorial
Stadium
Eastern
neighborhood
association
did
not
get
a
fair
share
there.
Their
track
may
be
nice,
but
the
concrete
stands
need
to
go.
The
Press
Box
is
dangerous.
Metal
stands
doesn't
matter
so
I
agree
with
Mr
Kearney
Miss
tovich
on
a
number
of
things.
We
did
lose
the
smoke
based
on
bad
decisions.
AD
I,
don't
know
how
long
Asheville
City
soccer
club
will
remain
here
without
Memorial
Stadium.
But
when
we
agreed
to
use
Memorial
only
every
year,
every
other
year,
when
the
tourists
were
out
of
town,
that
was
two
years
on
two
years
off
that
lasted
for
one
term,
and
then
they
had
three
years
at
home,
so
we
had
to
scramble
and
all
host
everything
at
JBL.
So
you
know
the
U.S
national
team
is
mostly
minorities.
We
hosted
Jess
McDonald
she's.
Only
African-American
national
player
national
team
player
won
the
World
Cup.
She
came
to
our
tournament.
AD
B
Mr
Turner
I
would
ask
that
you
speak
with
Tyrell
mcgirt,
raise
your
hand
our
Parks
and
Rec
director
back
there
as
well
as
Chris
Coral.
If
you,
if
you
would
who's
in
the
front,
maybe
work
with
them
to
put
together
a
meeting
to
talk
through
some
of
the
things
that
you
raised
around
Memorial.
That
would
be.
B
B
AE
AE
when
the
tourists
was
in
the
midst
of
being
the
Asheville
Oreos
I
think
my
granddad
might
pay
what
75
cents
a
dollar.
Something
like
that
for
me.
Going
the
game.
I
wouldn't
worry
about
the
prices,
because
once
I
got
in
I,
wanted
to
leave
out
with
the
rest
of
the
little
kids
and
go
out
behind
the
fence
and
try
to
catch
home
runs
well,
unfortunately,
I
didn't
catch,
no
home
runs
so
I
stayed
outside
the
game
and
missed
the
game,
but
I
did
get
to
go
to
king
off
that
it
was
always
I.
AE
I
was
kind
of
hesitant
about
this
thing
here
about
the
baseball
team,
but
then
I
got
to
thinking
about
all
the
help
that
we
got
from
the
tourists
when
we
had
June
10th
over
at
MLK,
Park
I
got
to
thinking
about
the
help
that
the
management
of
the
tourists
gave
our
kids
our
key
agendas,
inviting
them
to
come
down
to
the
stadium,
and
then
some
of
them
had
never
done
nothing
like
that.
They
enjoyed
it
and
they
looking
forward
to
doing
it
again.
AE
Apprehensive,
though,
because
by
the
time
y'all
do
all
these
renovations
to
catch
up
with
where
you
need
to
be
at
you're,
gonna
be
back
behind
again,
so
it
says
that
y'all
will
come
to
the
city,
the
TDA,
the
county,
whoever
and
the
wine
seed
group
all
come
together.
Trying
to
come
out
come
up
with
a
way
to
build
a
new
stadium
that
would
be
up
to
par
when
it's
built
and
not
trying
to
get
caught
up
to
something.
AE
You
know,
I
feel
that
they
have
really
been
shorted
by
being
squeezed
into
the
little
space
at
the
end,
although
it's
historical
place,
it's
just
too
small,
inadequate
parking,
I
mean
people.
Gotta
talk
all
the
way
up
dog
on
Martin
Luther
King
by
Saint
John,
a
church
up
through
there,
Saint
John,
Baptist
Church
up
on
the
hill
I
know
you're
dead.
AE
Nazareth
St
James
at
the
end,
I'm
thinking
about
St
John,
but
Nazareth
cars
parked
all
the
way
up
there
and
people
walking
all
the
way
back
down
to
the
stadium
that
doesn't
make
sense.
There
should
be
something
developed
where
y'all
can
keep
the
things
going
right
now
with
the
team
and
still
come
out
with
a
plan
to
build
a
new
stadium
and
use
the
old
stadium
for
high
school
baseball.
AE
AE
B
Thank
you,
okay,
that
was
the
last
person
signed
up
to
speak.
We
have
a
motion
to
approve
and
a
second
council
do
we
have
any
other
questions.
N
M
M
If
we
go
down
the
road
of
having
all
of
our
services
have
to
justify
an
economic
benefit,
we're
in
trouble.
Our
parks
are
here
for
joy
and
Recreation
and
family
and
time-
and
this
is
one
of
this-
is
our
building-
this
isn't
a
private
company's
building.
This
is
a
city
facility,
so
I,
just
I
I
know
that
there
are
times
where
we
use
economic
benefit
to
justify
investment,
but
I
mean
the
heart
and
soul.
We're
hearing
in
this
room
right
now
doesn't
have
a
dollar
figure
to
it.
B
You
know
one
other
well
a
couple
other
points
I
just
wanted
to
make.
We
did
see.
There's
some
good
data
around
who
visits
this
facility
right
now
and
about
a
quarter
of
it
is
from
the
city
of
Asheville
and
then
outside
the
city,
but
within
Buncombe,
County
and
and
I
know.
The
Buncombe
County
Commissioners
will
strongly
consider
that,
as
they
weigh
next
week,
their
decision,
whether
or
not
to
help
support
this
project,
but
we
also
serve
folks
from
around
the
region.
B
Henderson
County
and
Madison
County
coming
over
from
our
areas
around
here
and
I.
Think
as
we
continue
to
think
about
our
relationship
with
the
broader
Community
Western
North
Carolina,
it's
important
to
me
that
we
have
our
region
able
to
visit
us
and
experience
positive,
a
positive
thing
and
coming
to
our
community
and
taking
that
back
home
with
them,
so
that
we
continue
to
maintain
a
relationship
with
folks
across
our
region.
Even
if
we
might
be
politically
divided
or
otherwise
divided.
B
We
can
have
a
shared
love
around
a
fun
moment,
a
joyous
moment
and
I.
You
know
I'll
share
with
you,
I
think
that
one
of
the
functions
of
a
city
is
to
provide
opportunities
for
people
to
spend
time
together
in
Recreation
and
having
fun.
I
went
to
a
Dodgers
Mets
game
this
summer,
when
I
was
up
in
New
York
and
it
has
sold
out
Stadium.
B
That
was
like
transformational
experience
for
me.
I'd
love
to
go
to
baseball
games
in
other
cities,
but
just
listening
to
the
crowds
singing
together
and
that
moment
of
people
being
together
is
something
you
can't
just
replicate
you
you
have
to.
You
have
to
just
provide
the
opportunity,
and
then
people
will
seize
it
and
it
does
change
lives
and
it
does
enhance
the
quality
of
life
that
people,
experience
and
I.
Think
that
is
it's
not
everyone's
cup
of
tea.
B
Or
whatever,
whatever
it
is
that
they
that
they
like,
but
to
me
this
is
a
place
where
people
will
experience
that
time
together
and
finally,
I
want
to
I
want
to
recognize
when
we
began
this
journey.
Our
city
manager,
Deborah
Campbell,
recognized
the
importance
of
this
investment
in
this
facility
and
she
really
helped
work
behind
the
scenes,
with
her
staff
and
and
especially
Chris
Coral,
who
should
take
a
standing
ovation
working
very
hard
to
make
to
make
this
work?
Can
I
hear
first
pitch
and.
C
B
Have
done
the
first
pitch
and
it
was
horrible
I
think
maybe
Deborah
she
could
give
it
a
try,
don't
feel
bad
if
it
bounces
not
saying
that
happened
to
me,
but
but
anyway,
I
just
want
to
recognize
that
you
know.
There's
not
a
not
people,
don't
always
realize
how
much
goes
into
putting
together
something
this
Monumental
for
us.
So
so
just
know
that
that's
happening
it's,
it's
not
all
just
magic,
even
if
sometimes
it
seems
like
it.
So,
yes.
B
N
B
F
F
C
F
C
F
Opposed
it's
unanimous.
The
downtown
commission
boards
and
commissions
committee
does
not
have
a
recommendation
and
defers
to
the
full
Council
for
two
vacancies.
The
chair
of
the
downtown
commission
recommends
the
appointment
of
Nur
Edwards
and
Eva
Michelle.
Spicer
I
will
have
a
couple
words
here
about
my
recommendation
for
Bill
Cooney.
F
So
I
was
looking
at
section
2-7-7
of
the
code
that
established
the
downtown
commission
and
there
are
some
very
specific
purposes
and
Powers
assigned
to
the
members,
including
that
downtown
Commissioners
fill
four
out
of
nine
seats
of
the
design,
Review
Committee,
which
reviews
development
projects
within
the
central
business
district,
the
river
Arts,
District
and
hotel
projects
outside
of
those
areas,
so
I
compared
The,
Experience
loss
of
previous
and
current
appointees,
as
well
as
the
balance
as
we
have
multiple
varied
business
experiences
represented.
Some
of
them
have
an
automatic
appointment
feature
like
the
downtown
Business
Association.
F
So
I
ask
that
we
consider
asking
when
considering
the
downtown
review
guidelines
that
has
been
suggested
by
councilwoman,
Turner
I,
just
hope.
We
don't
miss
opportunity
to
consider
the
extensive
planning
infrastructure,
cost
assessment
and
public
engagement
experience
needed,
which
Bill
Cooney
brings
to
the
table.
So
I
have
a
recommendation
from
the
clerk's
office
that
we
might
each
lift
up
two
names
and
that
in
going
through,
essentially
a
roll
call
that
would
surface
the
answer.
C
N
To
the
downtown
commission
and
I
spent
a
little
time
on
this
today
and
I
want
to
say
first
I'm
I
have
been
on
on
the
downtown
commission.
I
think
before
this
for
I
don't
know
six
seven
years,
and
this
was
the
most
amazing
set
of
applicants.
I
had
seen
I'm
thinking
that
it
has
something
to
do
with
the
current
matters
facing
downtown,
but
there
was
a
great
pool
of
people
now
what
I
did
here
across
the
board
whether
it
was
from
the
design
review
members?
N
The
downtown
commission
members
that
there
was
a
notable
absence
of
commercial
or
I'm,
sorry
storefronts,
just
storefronts
in
general,
people
representing
the
businesses
and
the
stores
and
that's
their
business,
it's
their
employees,
and
that
we
don't
have
that.
So
we
have
a
series
of
Architects.
We
recently
lost
two
people.
One
was
a
landscape
architect,
and
one
was
a
business
representative
that
was
pretty
passionate
about
design
and
stuff.
So
we're
not
I,
don't
know
that
we're
trying
to
replace
more
architects
now.
N
For
me,
that
was
Noor,
Edwards
and
even
Michelle
Spicer
so,
and
that
was
also
the
two
that
the
commission
put
forth.
So
if
we
need
to
do
the
two
thing
out
of
Norm,
we
can
I'm
also
happy
to
make
a
motion.
That's
in
step
with
what
the
commission
chair
recommended
and.
F
N
F
N
F
And
we're
we're
still
going
to
be
missing
due
to
the
passing
of
the
late
Guillermo
Rodriguez
will
be
needing
to
fill
a
design,
Review
Committee
and.
N
N
Mr
Rooney
I
think
there
was
something
else
about
having
that
particular
person
on
board
that
would
have
helped,
and
that
is
something
that
you
and
I
continue
to
bring
up,
which
is
the
impact
that
Urban
three
found
in
our
property
tax
assessment
and
disparities
and
I
wondered
if
that
was
potentially.
Why
you
also
wanted
to
lift
up
that
person.
But
I
would
encourage
us
to
continue
to
push
on
that
matter
and
have
that
discussion
wherever
it
needs
to
be.
F
N
F
For
bringing
that
up
yeah
the
next
opening
was
on
the
homeless
initiative
advisory
committee.
The
boards
and
commissions
committee
will
postpone
the
appointment
while
the
homeless
initiative
advisory
committee
continues
working
on
a
transition
plan.
We
have
heard
about
this
transition
plan
for
a
while.
They
are
making
recommendations
and
meeting
regularly
to
address
that
work.
F
The
last
opening
is
for
the
multimodal
Transportation
Commission.
The
boards
and
commissions
committee
recommends
the
appointment
of
Elise
martyr,
who
also
serves
on
neighborhood
advisory
committee.
Can
I
get
a
second
second,
any
questions
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed,
and
it
passes
unanimously
in
other
boards
and
commissions
Council
committee
business.
The
committee
voted
to
support
a
change
in
the
appointment
process
from
monthly
appointments
to
appointments
four
or
five
times
a
year.
F
In
addition,
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
and
Buncombe
County
TDA
appointments
will
remain
in
August
due
to
the
robust
application
process
for
these
boards.
The
new
process
will
begin
with
advertising
of
Summer
cycle
appointments
this
week
for
appointments
in
June
April
appoints
appointments
will
take
place
as
usual,
so
as
not
to
delay
the
planned
appointments
without
full
and
robust
communication
in
the
new
process.
I
also
just
wanted
to
personally
say
thank
you
to
the
clerk's
office
staff.
F
We've
been
working
on
ways
to
support
our
boards
and
commissions
and
for
the
volunteers
who
are
working
through
the
realignment
process
by
extending
our
openings
for
our
board
advisory
appointments.
It
means
that
we'll
be
able
to
do
Outreach
with
Publications,
for
example,
that
have
monthly
deadlines
like
the
urban
news
and
to
do
effective
translation
for
for
outreach
with
hola
Carolina
La
noticia
JM
Pro.
It
also
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
bolster
support
and
training
for
our
Advisory
board
members,
and
that
concludes
the
boards
and
commissions
committee
business.
B
B
B
X
Hours,
okay,
so
we.
I
I
I
acknowledge
it
is
indisputably
distressing
and
sometimes
scary,
to
see
our
fellow
human
beings
behaving
erratically
or
that
they're
visibly
down
and
out
and
somehow
at
risk.
It
makes
us
realize
how
vulnerable
we
all
are,
how
easily
we
too,
given
bad
circumstances,
could
slip
through
the
safety
net
and
become
pitiful
outcasts,
as
mentioned
earlier
this
evening.
Much
of
our
population
is
one
medical
catastrophe
away
from
bankruptcy.
One
lost
job
away
from
homelessness,
one
bad
choice,
away
from
addiction,
family,
estrangement
and
loss
of
social
support,
and,
frankly,
no
one
wants
to
be
reminded
of
that.
I
I
The
people
who
are
defecating
on
the
street
aren't
doing
it
because
they
want
to
it's,
not
fun,
they're
doing
it,
because,
right
now
we
have
no
public
toilet
facilities.
That
are
easily
available
or
they're
doing
it,
because
they're
too
sick
or
strung
out
to
control
their
bowels
to
out
of
it
to
find
a
discreet
corner.
I
I
P
I
B
You
Kalani
Jackson.
P
Hi
guys
I'm
Kalani,
Jackson
I'm,
a
former
Miss,
Asheville
and
I'm
here
today,
because
two
weeks
ago,
I
own
a
salon
and
one
of
my
co-workers,
she
lost
her
mother
on
Hendersonville,
Road,
August,
17,
2022,
I
was
thrown
out
of
my
vehicle,
I
broke
my
hand
in
three
places:
I
broke
my
wrist
and
I
have
had
three
compression
back
fractures.
My
car
was
stopped
going
30
miles
per
hour
and
I
was
hit
at
80
miles
per
hour.
The
gentleman
that
hit
me
what
I'm
noticing
is
there's
a
lot
of
accidents
happening
on
Hendersonville
Road.
P
The
week
of
Miss
Sheila's
death,
there
were
two
accidents
that
happened.
Oh
happened
on
that
road
that
week,
what
I'm
coming
to
you
guys
to
talk
about
is
maybe
coming
up
with
a
plan.
I
know
in
bigger
cities
in
bigger
cities,
you
see
where
traffic
lights
catch,
the
car
is
going
like
super
fast
and
they
write
them.
Tickets.
P
This
has
just
been
like
very
traumatic.
For
me,
this
experience
and
I
don't
want
it
happening
to
someone
else.
I
see
the
hurt
that
her
family
is
experiencing.
That's
my
salon,
family
at
work,
so
I
experience
that
as
well
also
me
being
in
a
car
accident.
I
understand
that
getting
in
a
car,
it's
not
a
joke.
It's
not
a
game!
Our
infrastructure.
We
have
so
many
beautiful
people
moving
to
the
mountains,
we're
working
on
I-20,
six
I
believe
are
40
West.
P
A
F
A
F
Just
so
it's
on
the
council's
radar.
No
we're
not
we're
gonna,
make
comments
on
public
comment,
but
the
mpo
is
going
to
be
addressing
prioritization
of
funding
for
I-26
Sweeten
Creek
Swannanoa,
River
Road.
We
also
have
a
Hendersonville
Road
Project,
but
it's
something
to
keep
an
eye
on.
B
Know
and
red
light
cameras,
I
think,
is
what
you
were
talking
about,
and
we
can
provide
more
information
about
that.
But
North
Carolina
has
a
little
bit
of
a
tricky
issue
legislatively
around
red
light
cameras,
but
but
I
think
what
councilman
roney's
talking
about
in
both
both
the
councilwoman
Ullman
and
Bernie
serve
on
our
regional
MPA,
which
is
our
transportation
planning
body.
B
These
roads
are
on
dot
roads
but
they're
on
their
project
list
for
for
and
we've
had
several
I
think
fatalities
on
Hendersonville
Road
as
recently
so
so
stay
tuned
for
more
on
that-
and
we
appreciate
you
coming
down
here
to
talk
to
us
about
this
and
then
the
last
person
signed
up
to
speak
under
general
public
comment
is
Jonathan
Wainscott.
Z
I
did
all
right.
My
name
is
Jonathan
Wayne
Scott
citizen,
reporter
reporting
for
Duty
I,
just
I
wanted
to
look
at
our
last
meeting
city
council
meeting
was
moved
up
to
four
o'clock
so
that
everybody
who
wanted
to
be
here
and
also
attend
the
ta-nehisi
Coates
lecture
at
UNCA
could
be
there.
Tanahasi
Coates
is
the
author
of
the
case
of
reparations
and
when
he
was
asked,
if
he
had
any
specific
recommendations
for
our
reparations
process
here,
he
said
according
to
the
reporting,
I
wasn't
there.
Z
He
said
this
is
my
first
time
in
Asheville.
I
just
flew
in
today.
Far
be
it
for
me
to
sit
back
and
recommend
to
you
guys
who
are
enmeshed
in
this
on
a
daily
basis.
The
case
for
reparations
is
an
article.
That's
built
on
reporting
and
I,
haven't
done
the
requisite
and
required
research
and
reporting
to
have
an
understanding
to
make
recommendation.
Of
course,
this
reporting
of
this
you
know
nationally
renowned
author
was
covered
by
a
guy
named
Johnny
Casey
I
have
never
heard
of
him.
Z
He's
a
Madison
County
report
order
hasn't
written
anything
for
the
Citizen
Times,
usually
Joel,
Burgess
and
Sarah
I.
Guess
she
split,
but
there's
been
a
lot
of
his
history,
Spoken
Here
at
city,
council
and
I.
Think
our
reporters
should
do
a
better
job
of
it.
Of
course,
our
local
press
does
have
a
history
of
causing
harm
to
the
black
community
here
in
Asheville.
Z
This
is
from
the
1800s,
but
you
know
I
can
find
instances
in
the
20th
and
21st
century
of
that,
and
then
another
interesting
thing
in
the
news
this
week
was
that
we've
got
here
in
Buncombe,
County
40
outstanding
or
you
know,
pending
murder
cases
in
the
judicial
docket
over
there.
Some
of
these
cases
are
going
back
to
2020
it's
2023.
Already,
that's
crazy!
Z
Not
to
be
outdone.
We
have
an
arson
case
in
which
the
suspect
was
a
rich
arrested
on
March
15th.
Z
Tomorrow
will
be
the
four-year
anniversary
of
that
for
the
January
12
2019
birding
of
a
really
beautiful
2003
Toyota
Celica
GTS,
with
a
six-speed
manual
transmission
and
it's
rad
trim
package
and
a
sunroof
and
a
killer
stereo
in
the
next
court
date
will
be
April
3rd
2023,
but
there
won't
be
a
trial
on
that
and
who
knows,
maybe
this
year,
something
will
get
resolved
with
this
because
I
I
know
my
sources
tell
me
that
the
victim
is
really
really
annoyed.
Z
With
this,
having
happened
as
you
can
see,
this
is
a
picture
of
that
fire.
I
know
that
vehicular
emissions
break
your
heart
Megan.
This
is
right
next
to
a
house
right
there.
So
who
knows?
Maybe
maybe
this
will
happen
this
year.
This
this
case
will
get
tried,
but
who
knows
you
know
I
mean
it's
the
Buncombe
County
Courthouse.
You
can
never
really
rely
on
them
to
be
prompted
about
just
about
anything
all
right.
Thank
you.
B
M
I
move
that
the
Asheville
city
council
go
in
a
closed
session
for
the
following
reasons:
one
to
prevent
disclosure
of
information
that
is
privileged
and
confidential
pursuant
to
the
laws
of
North
Carolina
or
not
considered
a
public
record
within
the
meaning
of
chapter
132
of
the
general
statutes.
The
statutory
authorization
is
contained
in
North
Carolina
General
statute,
143-318.11
parentheses,
A1.
M
The
laws
that
make
the
information
privileged
and
confidential
are
NC,
General
statute,
143-318.10e
and
two
to
consult
with
an
attorney
employed
by
the
city
about
matters
with
respect
to
which
the
attorney
client
privilege
between
the
city
and
its
attorney
must
be
preserved,
including,
but
not
limited
to
the
handling
of
the
following
matters:
Matthew
Roos
for
city
of
Asheville
and
Brett
L,
Faust,
civil
action
number
one,
colon
22-cv,
dash
four
zeros
and
then
a
five.
The
sessions,
the
statutory
Authority
authorizations
contained
in
North
Carolina,
General
statute,
143-318.11
A3.
Second,.