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From YouTube: City Council Meeting, November 12, 2013
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November 12, 2013
Asheville City Council meeting.
A
A
Good
evening,
everyone
I'd
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
Astro
City
Council
meeting
for
november
12,
2013
11,
12,
13
and
just
for
the
records
it's
my
last
meeting
as
mayor,
and
I'm
really
excited
about
that
in
many
different
ways.
Tonight
we're
going
to
begin
with
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
Oh
hey
I
see
a
couple
of
Boy
Scouts
on
the
back
door.
You
want
to
be
put
on
the
spot
come
up
here
and
leave
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance
come
on
your
time
to
be
a
part
of
ashley's
history.
A
A
Eight
years
ago,
I
had
the
opportunity
to
do
the
implication
like
f
of
my
sworn
in
and
so
I'm
really
happy,
but
it
fell
on
you
to
be
able
to
do
the
implication
as
I
leave
after
14
years
on
City
Council,
and
this
would
be
a
brief
meeting.
I
figure
that
the
new
administration
is
ready
to
go
and
want
to
get
on
to
doing
the
people's
business
and
I
doing
a
mouse
that
the
sword
answer
isn't
December
a
third
which
has
been
said
several
times
on
the
news.
It's
actually
December
the
10th.
A
But
tonight
is
special
to
me.
It
is
my
last
meeting
it's
11,
12,
13
and
so
I'll
be
able
to
remember
that
for
many
years
to
come,
but
the
nostalgic
part
of
this
is
I
grew
up.
Looking
at
this
building,
my
mom
lives
less
than
a
mile
away
in
the
house
that
she
got
when
she
worked
three
jobs
to
get
the
house
and
it's
fun
for
me
and
as
mayor
I,
get
the
hold
of
gavel.
So
I
can
go
on
and
leave
it
longer
if
I
want
to
the
funny
part
about
being
north
asheville.
A
It
has
been
humbling
and
has
been
a
wonderful
opportunity,
but
it's
one
of
those
things
that
my
grandmother
used
to
say
that
never
let
anyone
limit
your
dreams
and
she
used
to
clean
rooms
over
it,
books,
house,
home,
and
it's
amazing
that
her
granddaughter
no
have
opportunity
layer
of
the
city
where
she
clearly
rooms
going
to
Africa
was
life.
It
was
transformational
to
hear
I
had
the
opportunity
to
school
kids
and
to
hear
them
say
what
class
are
you
in?
A
A
Not
look
at
it,
it
hasn't
been
easy,
but
one
of
my
favorite
poems
is
my
links
and
he's
talks
about
life
not
being
crystal
stairs
and
it's
the
mother
talking
to
our
son
about
the
fact
that
it's
not
easy,
but
I've
learned
in
life.
You
don't
do
things
because
it's
easy,
you
do
it,
because
it's
right
so
tonight
my
invocation
isn't
necessarily
a
prayer.
A
A
You
all
in
prayer
to
God
and
try
to
save
you
no
I'm
just
kidding,
but
tonight
I
just
have
a
heart
full
of
filled
with
gratitude,
a
heart
that
says
thank
you
so
very
much
that,
as
we
look
at
November
being
a
time
that
we're
thankful
for
our
nation,
we're
thankful
for
our
community
I,
just
want
to
say
I'm
thankful
for
each
one
of
you.
You
have
made
me
stronger
in
a
lot
of
different
ways.
I
was
talking
to
a
leader
today,
the
scars
that
I
have
tell
me
I'm
human.
A
It
tells
me
that
I
have
a
story
and
I
have
a
testimony
that
this
too
shall
pass.
Isn't
just
a
saying:
I've
lived,
it
I've
done
it
in
the
best
city
in
the
United,
States
and
I,
wouldn't
trade
anything
for
my
journey
and
that
I'm
so
grateful
to
have
been
mayor
of
this
wonderful
city.
So
that's
my
invocation
and
I
just
say.
Thank
you
all.
So
very
much.
A
D
Of
the
items
on
the
consent
agenda
is
updating
with
amendments
to
our
greenways
master
plan.
Mayor
I
just
came
from
a
master
plan
review
session
for
the
hominy
Creek
Greenway,
that's
underway
right
now,
at
river
link
and
they'll
be
going
another
hour
to
and
I
want,
counsel
to
know
that
there
are
some
happy
Greenway
advocates.
This
is
the
first
update
we've
done
since
we
adopted
the
plan
four
years
ago,
and
these
are
in
the
updates
are
much
needed
for
various
different
reasons.
D
E
D
A
Opposed
like
son,
the
motion
carries
council.
We
have
two
great
presentations.
The
first
one
is
from
the
north
island
department,
transportation
on
diverging
diamond
interchange,
I,
26
and
airport
road.
As
for
this
update,
because
it's
a
transformational
project,
that's
coming
to
our
community
and
I,
ask
that
DLT
come
explain
it
to
our
community.
Officially,
so
John
come
14e
a
four
time
for
tat
no
John's,
not
here
tonight.
Okay,.
F
F
What
it
does
is
it
limits
the
number
of
traffic
signal
phases
that
you
encounter
at
the
interchange
and
allows
the
motors
get
through
a
little
quicker
movements
on
and
off
of
the
interchange
off
of
the
freeway
have
less
conflicts
and
in
some
cases
may
be
free-flowing
and
it
moves
a
high
volume
of
traffic
without
increasing
the
number
of
lanes
at
the
interchange
concept
was
first
identified
by
a
grad
student
from
Maryland
over
he
was
taking
a
vacation.
France
noticed
this
interchange
and
as
traffic
engineers
tend
to
do.
You
know
we
go
to
France.
F
Instead
of
taking
pictures
of
the
Eiffel
Tower
Shawn
sale
is
a.
We
take
pictures
of
interchanges.
He
brought
the
concept
back,
we
looked
at
it.
It
took
a
little
while,
for
it
to
take,
Missouri
was
the
first
state
that
took
the
plunge
in
2009
put
in
the
first
DDI
and
the
in
the
country.
That's
in
the
left
side
of
the
picture
in
Springfield
Missouri,
the
one
on
the
upper
right
is
from
Utah,
which
is
the
first
one
that
was
a
complete
reconstruction
of
an
interchange.
F
F
We
have
fewer
conflict
points
than
what
we
would
have
at
a
standard
diamond
interchange,
conflict
points
where
travel
paths,
vehicle
travel
paths,
either
cross,
merge
or
diverge.
So
we
go
from
30
from
a
conventional
diamond
interchange
down
to
18.
When
you
have
fewer
conflict
points,
that
means
there's
less
of
a
chance
for
a
crash.
F
We
have
better
sight
distance
at
the
turns
wrong
way.
Entry
onto
the
freeway,
which
is
a
major
problem
when
someone's
going
east
in
the
westbound
direction,
that
normally
when
there's
a
crash
there,
it's
usually
going
to
be
a
fatal
because
the
way
the
interchange
can
be
designed,
we
virtually
eliminate
that
problem
before
Missouri
went
ahead
and
did
the
first
one.
They
did
a
lot
of
testing
FHWA
help
with
that
with
some
of
their
facilities.
We
found
almost
no
driver
confusion.
The
drivers
understand
the
concept
really.
F
When
you
get
to
operations,
it's
very
simple:
if
you're
going
left
on
the
freeway,
you
stay
the
left.
If
you
go
into
the
right,
you
stay
the
right.
If
you're
going
through,
you
use
the
appropriate
lanes
go
through.
It
increases
the
left
turn
capacity
without
adding
lanes.
When
you
think
about
a
standard
diamond
interchange.
Those
turn
lanes
are
essentially
parking
lots,
they're,
storing
vehicles
until
they
get
the
little
window
of
time
at
the
signal
to
turn
left
with
the
diverging
diamond
you
set
up
before
the
interchange.
F
So
when
you're
on
the
interchange
bridge
itself,
you
already
set
up
in
your
lanes
and
you
keep
moving
two
phases
at
the
signals.
Each
time
you
know
yeah
the
main
street,
that's
the
green,
and
then
you
have
the
ramp
traffic.
That's
a
second
phase
with
the
traditional
diamond
you'd.
Add
the
left
turn
onto
the
ramp.
F
From
a
cost
standpoint,
a
retrofit
of
the
bridge,
like
the
one
in
Asheville
at
asheville
airport,
that
I'll
show
in
a
minute
or
two,
the
retrofit
caused
a
very
inexpensive
relative
to
reconstructing
a
brand
new
bridge
with
a
new
interchange
concept.
Usually
the
existing
bridge
can
be
used.
Additional
right
away
is
rarely
needed
for
a
new
interchange.
We
can
narrow
the
the
width
of
the
bridge
that
saves
money,
and
also
there
are
some
benefits
from
a
construction
standpoint.
F
It's
easier
to
construct
gives
worries
it's
easier
to
move
traffic
back
and
forth
on
the
interchange,
bikes
trucks.
Emergency
vehicles
really
operate
the
same
way
as
they
would
through
it
through
an
interchange
through
it
standard
diamond
all
of
our
interchange
designed
to
handle
trucks.
They
have
no
trouble
with
the
crisscross
intersection
and
the
angles
on
either
through
the
crisscross
intersection
or
onto
or
off
of
the
ramps
access
fire
trucks,
emergency
vehicles,
it's
the
same
as
any
other
diamond
interchange,
and
if
bicycles
need
to
be
accommodated,
which
of
course,
we
want
to.
F
We
can
either
provide
a
wide
outside
lane
or
a
separate
bike
lane.
The
bike,
the
bikes
bike
lane
is
to
the
right,
and
it
continues
to
the
interchange.
Just
as
you
would
it's
actually
better
for
the
bikes,
because
there's
less
distance
that
they're
exposed
to
crossing
vehicles
at
a
standard
diamond
you'd
cross,
the
left
turns
going
on
to
the
ramp.
The
left
turns
coming
off
the
other
ramp
and
also
the
so
you're
exposed
in
two
directions.
With
the
diverging
diamond,
the
bikes
have
a
much
shorter
crossing
and
they're
only
exposed
on
one
side.
F
Pedestrians
also
accommodated
a
Missouri
found
that
the
best
place
to
put
the
pedestrians
is
right
in
the
center
of
the
bridge.
While
it
seems
counterintuitive
that
that
would
be
a
safe
place
to
to
for
the
pedestrians
to
be
really
is
very
comfortable
and
also
on
either
end
of
the
bridge,
we
can
have
all
of
the
pedestrian
movements
under
signal
control.
That's
a
better
situation.
We
would
have
with
it
with
the
standard
diamond.
F
Also,
the
crossings
are
shorter
and
again
the
traffic's
only
coming
from
one
direction,
so
the
pedestrians
have
less
exposure
should
be
safer
for
the
pedestrians.
The
one
on
the
right
is
from
Atlanta,
which
is
probably
the
closest
one
of
the
closest
DD
is
here
either
this
or
Alcoa
Tennessee
I
took
that
picture
last
year
in
the
center.
It's
a
wider
path
feels
very
comfortable
did
not
feel
like
unconstrained,
and
that's
been
the
experience
of
most
pedestrians
council
members
from
the
town
of
Cornelius,
which
also
has
a
retrofit
just
about
to
be
go
under.
F
Speaking
of
Cornelius,
this
is
the
interchange
that
they
have.
They
requested.
This
we've
studied
it.
So
it
was
the
right
answer
here.
This
is
the
existing
interchange
of
Catawba
Avenue
and
then
just
laying
on
the
top
of
the
on
the
top
of
the
arrow.
With
the
plans
you
see
that
it
fits
essentially
in
the
same
space.
F
What
was
previously
proposed
here
was
a
single
point.
Urban
interchange,
long,
Shoals
Road,
would
be
an
example
of
that
much
bigger
bridge,
very
costly
to
construct
the
single
point
and
the
DDI
have
essentially
the
same
traffic
operations.
However,
diverging
diamond
is
going
to
be
a
lot
less
expensive
to
construct.
Our
estimate
for
the
reconstruction
at
Catawba
Avenue
in
Cornelius
with
a
single
point,
was
30
million
dollars.
A
lot
of
that
had
to
do
with
construction
phasing
trying
to
build
that
much
bigger
bridge,
while
maintaining
traffic.
F
The
diverging
diamond,
which
was
let
to
contract
in
September,
is
right
about
5.5
million.
So
you
can
see
a
huge
savings
and
it'll
be
built
a
lot
faster
than
it
would
have
with
the
single
point
coming
closer
here
at
asheville
airport,
at
NC,
280
and
I
26.
Very
similar
situation,
what
Catawba
Avenue
was
what
you
have
is
the
standard
diamond
you
can
see
widening
from
three
or
four
years
ago
to
add
turn
lanes
on
the
ramp.
F
Even
with
those
turn
lanes,
we're
still
limited
to
the
six
lanes
there
on
the
bridge
processing
the
vehicles
through
the
two
signals
in
the
interchange
is
very
difficult
and
you've
seen
the
backups
that
result
from
from
really
people
crossing
each
other.
The
past
the
left
turns
off
the
ramp
have
to
cross
the
past
of
the
left
turns
that
are
turning
onto
the
freeway
as
well
as
the
through
moves
with
the
diverging
diamond.
Let
me
with
diverging
diamond
operations,
much
simpler.
Here's
our
initial
analysis.
F
F
When
we
can,
you
see
here
with
the
existing
configuration
existing
traffic
level
service
e,
mostly
DS,
an
F,
and
also
extensive
queuing
throughout
the
interchange,
when
we
look
at
the
existing
counts,
putting
it
into
the
diverging
diamond
interchange
with
the
same
cross-section
of
the
bridge,
you
see
A's
and
B's,
even
going
out
to
2025,
which
is
what
we
did
basically
to
indicate
this
project
was,
was
a
good
one.
You
still
see
some
C's
some
cueing
getting
getting
on
280
as
you're
approaching
the
interchange,
nothing
in
the
interchange
itself
with
the
existing
diamond.
F
You
see
all
f's
and
really
bad
doing
so
it's
a
huge
difference
from
a
traffic
operation
standpoint.
Here's
the
plans.
We
also
had
planned
to
let
this
in
September
our
bids
came
in
actually
forty-nine
percent
higher
than
our
engineers
estimate.
We
are
rebidding.
This
project
in
january
hope
talk
to
the
construction
firms
that
did
bid
and
hope
to
encourage
more
to
get
the
cost
much
closer
to
what
we
had
in
in
Cornelius.
The
black
lines
that
you
see
here
is
is
the
design
that's
laid
on
top
of
the
existing
aerial.
F
You'll
see
that
it
fits
essentially
in
the
same
space
as
we
are
developing
this
project.
We
did
identify
an
issue.
One
of
the
things
that
we
have,
that
we
know
is
an
issue
when
we
put
in
diverging
diamond
is
we
fix
the
interchange
and
then
we
have
a
adjacent
intersections
that
have
the
multi-phase
signals
and
caused
problems
for
the
interchange.
Basically,
when
you
fix
the
interchange,
it
looks
like
we've
moved
the
traffic
over
to
the
other
intersection.
F
What's
really
happened
is
the
interchange
has
been
fixed
so
much
that
problems
goes
away
and
then
you
start
noticing
the
other
intersections,
which
are
lesser
problem,
but
still
a
problem.
In
particular,
at
the
airport
we
had
the
driveway
to
the
general
aviation
and
I
also
believe,
there's
a
fire
station
either
built
or
about
to
be
built
at
that
location.
F
On
the
other
side,
you
have
the
car
dealers
driveway,
which
are
way
too
close
to
the
interchange
now
and
will
be
even
closer
because
we're
moving
the
interchange
over
that's
what
we're
doing
is
changing
the
configuration
the
airport
entrance
to
allow
ingress
and
egress
the
general
aviation
part
and
as
well
putting
in
a
service
road
to
the
to
the
car
dealer.
So
we
can
come
down
on
the
first
intersection,
that's
already
signalized
we're
not
just
putting
them
in
and
just
saying
here
go
at
it.
F
We
have
some
information
brochures
left
a
few
copies
with
the
city
clerk
that
she
can
pass
to
you
later
distribute
and
I've
got
a
couple
extras
for
the
for
the
public.
In
addition,
we
have
a
video,
it's
actually
our
number
one
hit
on
youtube.
If
you
search
NCDOT
and
DDI
you'll
pull
this
up.
I've
seen
this
used
at
across
the
country,
newspapers
and
TV
stations
use
this
to
explain
how
to
drive
a
DDI
by
the
time.
The
first
DDI
is
open
in
North
Carolina
for
operation
next
spring.
F
F
Seven
are
under
construction
to
the
Kitab
avenue
and
the
asheville
ones
are
ready
to
be
Latin.
We
have
three
others.
There
are
being
worked
on
right
now.
Again,
DDI
is
safer
operationally
better
in
this
in
particular
locations.
There
will
be
some
interchanges
where
DD
I
will
make
the
operation
worse.
If
we
don't
have
the
ramp
traffic,
then
a
DDI
is
not
a
good
fit,
but
what
we've
identified
with
that
list
is
projects
we
have
right
now
that
are
good
fits
asheville
airport,
especially
using
the
bridge
reusing.
B
A
Time
I
say
thank
you
so
very
much
for
coming
and
explain
it
and
give
it
I
do
have
a
question
or
requests
from
you
with
the
video
which
is
very
popular
on
YouTube.
Is
there
any
way
we
can
get
that
out
to
people
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
because
we
had
people
hitting
roundabouts
years
ago
when
we
saw
it
put
in
there.
Man
and
so
people
know
that
they
can
find
more
information
out,
see
how
it
run
and
works
that
I
think
people
will
actually
take
advantage
of.
F
A
Could
just
get
that
out
because
I
think
it's
something
new.
It
sounds
like
it's
going
to
save
a
lot
of
congestion
and
money,
and
so
just
letting
the
community
have
an
opportunity
to
understand
it
in
advance
of
it
being
implemented.
What
I
think
really
helped
the
community
as
a
whole
council.
Any
comments,
questions
having.
G
Come
across
a
diverging
diamond
interchange,
one
time
I
didn't
know
was
there,
it
was
very
intuitive.
I
was.
I
was
through
it
before
I
really
understood
what
I
was
driving
through
and
it
was
really
seamless
and
aside
from
the
whoa,
this
is
weird
I'm
on
the
wrong
side
of
the
street.
It
just
flowed
very
seamlessly.
That's.
F
A
A
I
do
want
to
say
thank
you
for
being
such
a
good
or
per
citizen
and
willing
to
meet
with
City
Council,
to
discuss
issues
to
work
with
this
a
million
and
thank
you
for
helping
to
arrange
that
I
sincerely
appreciate
the
time
that
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
work
with
mission.
You
all
have
been
great
corporate
citizens
and
I
sincerely
appreciate
that
you've
already
set
up
a
meeting
with
the
Knicks
administration,
because
that's
how
you
do
and
I
appreciate
that
communication
and
it
being
open
and
a
free
fluence.
So
thank
you
so
very
much
well.
H
Thank
you
Mary,
it's
an
honor
to
be
here
at
the
transition
point.
We've
appreciated
our
time,
working
with
you
and,
of
course,
the
council
members,
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
us
there
and
the
rusty
of
going
forward,
and
in
that
regard,
let
me
introduce
My
partner.
Jill
hoga
Green
is
the
president
and
CEO
of
mission
health.
It's.
I
A
pleasure
to
be
here
today
and
to
take
just
a
few
minutes
to
give
you
an
update
of
the
wonderful
two
things
that
are
happening
at
Mission
health.
You
know
it's
an
amazing
time
right
now
in
healthcare
anywhere
around
the
country,
with
lots
of
creativity
and
challenges,
and
it
was
actually
fun
following
the
innovation
that
just
occurred,
because
what
really
needs
to
happen
in
healthcare
is
a
lot
of
innovation
and
a
lot
of
redesign,
and
this.
H
Is
really
a
almost
like
a
preview
of
coming
attractions?
You
all
know
that
we
have
plans
to
build
a
new
tower,
bringing
our
two
campuses
together.
But
what
you're
less
familiar
with
is
the
work
that
we're
doing
right
now
to
sort
of
reengineer
and
redesign
our
processes
so
that
we're
ready
to
go
into
that
new
building
and
we
want
to
start
out,
and
since
he
didn't
show
the
video
we're
going
to.
H
H
H
H
Impressive,
so
thank
you.
We,
as
you
know,
we've
shared
previously
hear
that,
because
of
our
demographics,
the
fact
that
we're
older,
poor,
sick
or
less
likely
to
take
care
of
ourselves
and
others
in
the
state
nation
and
because
of
issues
with
the
federal
and
state
governments.
You
know
we're
facing
a
350
million
dollar
reimbursement
reduction
over
the
next
ten
years,
and,
if
we're
not
doing
things
like
that,
each
and
every
day
to
become
more
efficient,
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
provide
the
services
that
we
have
for
so
long.
But
we
will
what's.
I
So
exciting
is
we
have
engaged
many
of
our
physicians,
nurses,
caregivers
at
the
bedside
and
throughout
mission
health
and
we're
looking
at
every
process.
This
is
learning
that
wooden
the
most
we
can
from
manufacturing
industries
and
others
the
best
we
can
from
healthcare
and
then
taking
each
process
and
making
it
more
reliable,
safer,
more
effective
and
what
we
do
that
it's
actually
reducing
costs.
I
H
Just
close
with
this
that
coming
back
to
that
building
as
an
example
of
our
inefficiencies
related
to
two
campuses,
it's
embarrassing,
but
11,000
times
per
year,
we
put
somebody
in
an
ambulance
at
all
times
of
day
and
night
and
move
the
patient
across
the
street
so
that
they
can
access
some
service.
That's
not
available
on
the
other
side
of
the
street.
That,
in
and
of
itself,
is
about
a
two
and
a
half
million
dollar
in
annually.
Additional
expenditure
that
we
really
shouldn't
have
over
the
life
of
the
building.
H
The
building
cost
itself
is
only
ten
percent
of
the
total
cost.
The
ninety
percent
of
the
costs
over
the
life
of
the
building
is
the
people
on
the
equipment
and
the
processes.
Just
yesterday,
there
was
a
publication
in
one
of
the
clinical
journals
that
showed
that
intra-operative
radiation
for
breast
cancer
is
the
equivalent
of
an
entire
a
series
of
radiation
therapies
after
discharge
from
surgery,
our
operating
rooms,
don't
have
the
ceiling
heights
that
would
enable
us
to
implement
all
of
these
technologies.
So
a
lot
more
to
come.
A
Thank
you
so
very
much
as
I
open
up
account,
so
I
do
and
say
thank
you
so
very
much
for
man,
one
doctors
drive
building
after
Jeff
bo
and
I
apply
butter
who
perished
in
the
fire
in
that
building.
I
want
to
say
thank
you
so
very
much
for
doing
that
for
our
community
and
working
quickly
to
heal
that
building
and
it
helped
heal
our
community.
So
thank
you
so
very
much
council.
J
A
Right
they'll
see
you
next
month
and
we
look
for
a
hard
Thank,
You
counsel.
We
only
have
one
public
hearing
tonight
and
Julia
phils
will
lead
us
through
that,
but
everyone
who
will
be
speaking
on
this
issue
will
need
to
be
sworn
or
affirmed
and
Jamie
deputy
city
clerk
will
do
that
for
you,
so
anyone
who's
in
the
room
who
likes
public
hearings
who
may
think
they
may
be
inspired
to
speak,
maybe
a
expert
on
an
issue
that
may
come
forward.
If
you
could
come
at
this
time
to
be
sworn
or
affirmed.
A
K
Bellamy
members
of
council
you've
seen
this
site
before
so
I'll.
Try
to
be
brief.
It
is
12.8
seven-acre
portion
of
the
a
B
Tech
campus
located
off
of
Victoria
Road
on
a
drive
that
has
now
been
newly
named
Genevieve
circle,
and
that
will
be
that
the
road
that
will
go
through
this
portion
of
the
campus,
here's
Livingston,
here's
Victoria,
here's,
the
Asheville
high
school
campus,
Oakland
drive
and
here's
the
road
that
goes
on
to
the
rest
of
the
a
B
Tech
campus.
K
On
December
11
2012,
the
actual
city
council
voted
to
approve
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
new
184,000,
approximately
180
4,000
square
foot,
allied
health
and
workforce
facility
for
Asheville
buncombe,
Technical,
Community
College
to
be
constructed
on
the
site
that
I
just
introduced
to
you.
The
building
was
to
be
located
on
the
western
portion
of
the
site
back
towards
the
Earth
kent
street
apartments.
K
With
a
footprint
of
47,000
square
feet,
it
was
designed
to
be
a
mixed-use
facility,
housing
classrooms,
laboratories
offices,
the
campus
daycare
center
and
an
864
seat
auditorium
the
only
existing
building
under
the
previous
plan.
That
would
remain
with
ivy
building
it's
a
former
chapel,
and
that
was
the
only
building
that
was
scheduled
to
remain
under
this
plan.
Under
the
previous
plan,
I'm
going
to
briefly
just
put
up
here
with
the
design
of
the
building
the
front
facade
of
the
building.
K
Buncombe
County,
who
is
the
applicant
in
this
case,
is
back
now
with
an
amendment
to
the
conditional
use
permit
that
address
some
of
the
concerns
that
had
been
raised
with
the
original
design,
the
concern
being
the
the
size,
the
expense
of
the
building,
and
also
there
was
concern
with
the
proximity
to
the
residential
community.
Behind
behind
the
building.
The
new
proposal
reduces
the
size
of
the
building
to
a
hundred
and
sixty
nine
thousand
square
feet
of
fourteen
thousand
six
hundred
and
sixty
feet
less.
K
It
moves
the
building,
as
I
indicated,
to
the
eastern
portion
of
property
along
Victoria
Road
400
feet
further
from
the
adjoining
neighborhoods
than
the
original
design.
The
footprint
is
reduced
by
ten
thousand
eight
hundred
and
eighty
eight
square
feet,
and
the
height
is
basically
the
same.
Actually
this
building,
because
the
reduced
footprint
would
be
about
seven
feet
taller
as
before.
This
building
is
designed
to
be
LEED
certified.
K
Additionally,
this
new
proposal
retains
not
only
the
ivy
building,
but
it
also
retains
the
existing
childcare
facility
and
also
retain
sure
we
call
from
this
previous
drawing
when
the
child
care
facility
disappeared
and,
and
there
was
a
playing
field.
That's
here
that
was
shown
to
be
parking
in
the
previous
design.
You'll
see
here
now
that
its
proposed
to
be
retained,
buffers
still
provided
where
the
property
adjoins
residential
development
and
as
before,
the
existing
two
access
points
along
Victoria
Road
will
be
improved
and
as
before,
a
bus
shelter
is
proposed
on
the
Asheville
high.
I
K
Victoria
Road
and
a
new
sidewalk
will
be
constructed
all
along
the
side
of
victoria
road
adjacent
to
the
campus.
A
meeting
for
interested
folks
was
held
on
october
15th.
Very
few
people
were
in
attendance,
but
it's
my
understanding
that
the
applicant
has
met
subsequently
with
neighborhood
context
to
to
try
to
reach
out
to
them.
Since
so
few
people
came
to
the
actual
meeting
and
I'll.
Let
them
again
just
like
the
design
discuss
that
with
you,
and
here
is
the
front
of
the
new
building.
K
So
I'll
leave
all
these
materials
up
here
for
comparative
purposes,
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
what
all
the
applicant
has
to
present
to
you,
but
they
can
feel
free
to
use
these
as
well.
At
the
technical
review
committee
meeting
held
on
october
twenty
first
of
this
year,
the
committee
reviewed
and
approved
this
amendment
with
conditions
this
matter,
because
it's
a
conditional
use
permit
amendment
did
not
have
to
go
to
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission.
So
now
it's
before
you
and
that
completes
my
presentation
and.
C
Creighton
assistant
county
manager,
madam
mayor
councilmembers,
I,
basically,
we
came
back
in
what
we
we
basically
went
through
a
redesign
process
and
I
personally
think
we
came
up
with
a
better
building
when
it
doesn't
impact
the
surrounding
community.
Like
it
did,
we
came
away
with
less
parking.
We
saved
the
green
space,
the
the
soccer
field
in
the
bank
and
I
think
the
most
important
part
of
it
is
that
pulling
the
building
up
on
front
on
Victoria
that
you
know
that
you're
actually
on
a
B
Tech
campus.
C
I'd
like
to
ask
Scott
diner
to
come
up
and
answer
any
kind
of
questions
you
may
have
about
the
appearance
of
the
building
or
anything
else,
but
like
I,
say
I
personally,
think
that
we
came
back
with
a
better
product.
Also,
the
interim
president
of
a
BTech
is
here
also,
if
you
have
any
questions,
Dennis,
Kings,
present
and
I,
if
nothing
else,
I'd
like
to
introduce
Dennis,
he
would
just
kind
of
second
but
he's
also
oppressed.
Thank
you.
Ok,.
A
D
Moved
to
approve
the
conditional
use
permit
amendment
adopting
the
proposed
plan
for
Asheville
buncombe
Technical,
Community,
College,
allied
health
and
worse
workforce
development
facility,
subject
to
the
conditions
recommended
by
staff.
I
found
that
this
request
is
reasonable
and
is
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
other
adopted
plans
based
on
information
provided
in
the
staff
report.
In,
as
stated
in
the
staff
recommendation.
A
L
A
Opposed
like
sign
the
motion
carries
unanimously
council.
We
have
a
couple
of
items
under
unfinished
business
issue
that
we
talked
about
briefly
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
and
they
are
item
a
concealed
handguns
number,
one
in
ordinance
amending
chapter
12
of
the
Code
of
Ordinances
to
revise
the
definition
of
recreational
facilities,
whether
carrying
a
concealed
handguns
is
permitted
prohibited
and
pursuant
to
state
law,
roderick
'cimmanon,
no,
not
Roger,
okay,
Janice,
all
right,
I
guess:
Roger
sit
back
up.
M
And
then
project
horses
here
for
backup,
I'm,
Janice,
Ashley,
assisted
a
city
attorney
for
the
legal
staff
and
I'll
be
brief,
because
this
matter
did
come
before
you
at
the
last
council
session
and
then
has
been
to
to
public
safety
considered
by
the
Public
Safety
Commission
twice
as
well.
But
this
is
a
consideration
of
an
ordinance
to
amend
the
prohibition
of
concealed
handguns
in
certain
City
recreational
facilities.
M
So,
to
summarize,
under
the
new
law,
the
city
still
has
the
ability
to
prohibit
concealed
handguns
in
swimming
pools
and
athletic
facilities
like
gymnasiums,
but
cannot
prohibit
like
concealed
handguns
in
playgrounds
and
athletic
fields
during
when
there
is
no
event
in
order
to
comply
with
the
state
law.
The
staff
is
recommending
that
we
that
we
amend
our
ordinance
to
comply
with
the
state
law
so
that
the
city
is
still
able
to
prohibit
where
we
are
able
to
under
the
law
to
the
fullest
extent
able
by
the
law.
A
A
M
It's
it's
our
legal
opinion
that
this
law
went
into
effect,
October
first
2013.
If
we
don't
update
our
law
to
make
it
in
compliance,
then
I
would
say
our
whole
ordinance
that
we
have
would
be
could
be
at
risk
of
being
considered
invalid,
meaning
that
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
prohibit
where
we
are
still
able
to
prohibit
in
athletic
facilities
and
in
swimming
pools
and
in
athletic
fields
during
an
event.
So
that's
why
we
advised
that
we
do
make
this
in
compliance
with
the
law.
N
All
of
course,
we
had
the
opportunity
to
look
at
this
twice
now
at
public
safety
and
I.
Think
that
the
the
disturbing
part
is
just
what
ms
ashley
said
that
we're
having
to
do
this
in
order
to
be
able
to
protect
some
facilities
for
people
caring
handguns
in
to
all
into
recreational
areas
that
are
programmed,
and
it's
disturbing
to
me
that
this
morning's
headline
in
the
asheville
citizen-times
may
look
as
though
council
was
setting
about
enabling
handguns
to
be
carried
into
recreational
areas
and
it's
kind
of
fuzzy.
The
way
it
is.
N
But
what
we're
really
doing
tonight
is
is
doing
the
best
job
we
can
to
protect
our
children
and
citizens
and
older
citizens
they're
using
recreational
areas
by
by
proving
this,
and
it
would
it's
very
tempting
not
to.
But
if
we
don't
do
it,
then
we
put
at
risk
our
citizens.
So
at
this
time,
I
will
move
that
that
we
approve
the
adoption
of
the
ordinance
amending
chapter
12
of
the
Code
of
Ordinances
to
revise
the
definition
of
recreational
facilities
where
the
carrying
of
concealed
handguns
is
prohibited.
That's.
L
L
O
A
P
My
name
is
Dean
Worley
I
am
a
proponent
of
concealed,
carry
and
I'm
not
going
to
ask
if
any
of
the
council
members
or
concealed
carry
permit
holders,
but
I'm
just
wondering
if
you're
aware
of
the
rules
and
regulations
that
a
person
that
applies
and
goes
through,
the
training
for
concealed
carry
has
to
go
by
once
they
get
a
concealed.
Carry
it's
very,
very
tight.
They
you're
not
allowed
any
alcohol
or
drugs
illegal
drugs
in
your
system,
if
you're
carrying
concealed,
you
can
go
into
a
building
with
300
offices.
P
There
are
being
asked
and
agreeing
to
much
more
stringent
guidelines
than
just
the
average
person
that's
allowed
to
have
a
handgun
legally.
So,
as
we've
seen,
you
have
these
school
shootings
that
go
on
and
people
are
being
people
that
take
these
guns
and
go
to
do
harm
going
to
places
where
there
are
no
guns
allowed.
P
Okay
and
that's
a
big
debate
in
the
news
media
and
across
especially
with
our
representatives
in
Washington
I,
feel
that
somebody
that
has
a
concealed
carry
is
agreeing
to
a
much
stronger
route
set
of
rules
imposed
upon
themselves
and
therefore
they're
more
respectable
of
the
law.
I
certainly
am
as
a
concealed
carry
permit
holder
and
I
feel
like
that.
P
If
you
go
to
a
park
and
you're
there,
if
I
was
a
bad
guy
and
I
went
to
a
park
and
I
knew
that
guns
were
not
allowed
period
at
this
park,
then
that
would
basically
give
you
more
of
an
opportunity
if
you
wanted
to
do
something
bad
with
a
gun.
You'd
have
the
opportunity,
but
you
go
into
a
park,
and
you
know
that
good
citizens
are
staring
there.
There
might
be
some
of
them
there
with
a
handgun
that
will
protect
their
family
and
the
rest
of
the
citizens
if
they
have
to.
P
Nobody
wants
to
have
to
do
something
like
that,
but
if
you
have
to-
and
these
bad
guys
know
that
somebody
is
there
that
might
be
carrying
a
gun
concealed
the
chances
of
them.
Maybe
you
know,
being
staying
under,
control
might
be,
might
be
greater
and
and
like
I
say,
I
feel
that
a
person
that
has
a
handgun
you
know
concealed
carry
permit
they're
they're
agreeing
to
this
this
guidelines.
That
makes
it
a
lot
harder
on
them.
P
You
know
to
be
a
concealed,
carry
holder,
so
they're,
more
they're,
more
in
line
with
the
bay
in
the
law
and
doing
the
right
thing
by
having
that
handgun.
So
that's
just
basically
my
comment
and
I
feel
like
it
would
be.
I
think
it
would
be
a
better
thing
for
further.
You
know
for
the
city
if
this
was
allowed,
so
that's
basically
what
I
have
to
say
thank.
A
Q
A
Q
Q
A
You,
sir
anyone
else
wishing
to
address
council
it's
his
legal
right
to
come
address
this
council
and
he
had
the
guests
as
well
as
any
other
adult
in
the
united
states
that
come
before
council,
so
I'll
respect
where
he
had
to
say
Thank,
You,
Aaron.
All
right
council
will
close
the
public
comment
and
in
further
questions
or
comments
on
the
motion
on
the
table.
A
All
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
all
opposed
likes
on
the
motion
carries
unanimously.
Next
is
the
resolution
opposing
session
lost
2001-2011
dash
two
six
to
eight
and
2013
dash
369,
limiting
municipal
authority
to
regulate
concealed,
carry
and
municipal
parks
and
playgrounds,
Marilyn,
Mannheimer,
Thank.
J
You,
mayor
of
marthoma,
Gohan
and
I
worked
on
this
resolution
and
opposition
to
the
legislation
that
the
mayor
already
stated
is
in
the
title,
and
the
reason
was
in
hopes
to
make
it
clear
to
our
citizens
that
what
we've
already
talked
about
that
this
ordinance
amendment
is
required
under
state
law
and
that
the
state
law,
specifically
preempt
cities
from
regulating
concealed,
carry
in
any
way.
That's
inconsistent
with
the
state
requirements,
and
so
our
our
ordinance,
we're
adopting
tonight
brings
us
into
compliance
with
the
new
state
law.
However,.
J
I
have
concerns
about
the
state
law.
I
have
heard
from
law
enforcement
that
there
is
a
concern
about
the
clarity
or
lack
thereof
in
terms
of
enforcement,
because
we
now
have
a
situation
where
what
we
think
of
as
a
park
is
really
carved
up
into
sections.
You
have
a
playground,
you
might
have
a
picnic
area,
you
might
have
a
ball
field,
you
might
have
a
greenway
and
there
are
different
rules
for
concealed
carry
in
the
different
sections
of
the
park.
J
J
So
from
from
law
enforcement
standpoint
it
becomes
pretty
difficult
because
in
a
matter
of
feet
you
can
just
walk
through
the
different
sections
of
the
park
and
have
different
rules
that
apply
and
and
also
you
know,
I
think
there
is
a
legitimate
question
about
why
why
it
might
be
necessary
to
to
intervene
in
city's
ability
to
regulate
their
parks?
You
know
this
is
another
tension
between
a
legislative
action
and
cities
desires
to
regulate
themselves
and
their
citizens
desire
to
regulate
their
cities
and
in
the
ways
they
see
fit.
J
There
is
also
concerned
that
this
legislation
is
vague.
The
terms
are
not
defined.
There
wasn't
discussion
providing
any
of
the
intent
behind
this
legislation,
so
it's
it's
somewhat
difficult
to
interpret
and
other
cities
have
also
adopted
protest
resolutions
in
the
hopes
that
the
Legislature
will
revisit
this
issue
and
bring
some
clarity
to
it.
I
do
have
one
just
add
it
on
the
3rd,
whereas.
J
The
third
line
right
in
the
middle,
where
it
says
an
athletic
and
athletic
fields
when
they
are
should
be,
are
not
being
used
or
an
organized
athletic
event.
So,
with
that,
with
that
amendment,
I
would
so
move
the
adoption
of
the
resolution
opposing
session
session
laws.
2011
268
and
2013
269
relating
to
the
state
legislatures
ban
on
North
Carolina
city's
ability
to
restrict
possession
of
concealed
handguns
and
municipal
parks
and
recreational
facilities
shortened.
A
J
J
N
J
J
J
All
right,
all
those
in
favor
aye
all
right,
then.
Finally,
we
have
the
appointment
to
the
historic
resource
commission
and
when
we
last
met,
we
determined
that
we
were
going
to
interview
two
candidates
and
the
two
candidates
happen
to
know
one
another
and
did
not
want
to
compete
for
the
position.
So
mr.
Richard
fast
visited
with
us
today
for
the
interview-
and
he
is
a
highly
qualified
candidate
and
boards
and
commissions
did
not
discuss
whether
or
not
to
recommend
his
appointment,
because
we
went
on
to
interview
him.
If
there's
a
motion
to
appoint
him,
though.
N
A
R
Good
evening,
City
Council,
my
name
is
Timothy
Sadler
and
want
to
bring
to
your
attention
a
wonderful
experience.
I
had
working
through
the
Civic
Center
and-
and
that
was
on
behalf
of
a
local
nonprofit
veterans,
helping
veterans.
We
were
able
to
man.
The
concession
stands
at
the
Civic
Center
or
the
US
cellular
center.
R
Provide
labor,
for
particular
projects
may
be
a
way
to
reduce
expense
to
the
city.
In
particular,
it
occurred
to
me
that
the
bus
shelters
we
may
be
able
to
partner
with
an
agency
such
as
go
asheville
green
opportunities
to
construct
the
shelters
and
then
partner
with
them.
Also
in
installing
those
shelters.
R
Not
only
would
it
be
keeping
more
money
in
the
community
providing
work,
but
it
would
also,
of
course,
be
saving
the
city
money
so
want
to
share
that,
and
also
thank
mayor
Bellamy
for
your
service
I
that
affordable
housing
was
one
of
your
big
issues
when
you
ran
and
the
city
is
light-years
from
where
it
was
back,
then.
So,
thank
you
and
congratulations
to
our
new
mayor,
manheimer
and
I
greatly
look
forward
to
this
next
city
council
and
that's
it
all.
A
A
The
community
wishing
to
address
council
any
other
matter
all
right
council
I,
would
like
to
invite
the
community
December.
The
second
is
my
ceremonial
portrait
hanging
and
invite
the
community
to
come
at
five
o'clock
in
ventura
reception
over
at
the
wild,
my
culture
center.
You
want
to
invite
people
in
december,
the
tent
on.
J
E
I
move
that
Asheville
City
Council
go
into
closed
session
for
the
following
reasons:
one
to
prevent
disclosure
of
information
that
is
privileged
and
confidential
pursuant
to
the
laws
of
North
Carolina
or
not
considered
a
public
record
within
the
meaning
of
chapter
132
of
the
general
statures.
The
law
that
makes
the
information
privileged
and
confidential
is
Carolina.
E
The
statutory
authorization
is
contained
in
gs,
143
dash,
318
point
11,
a-3
third,
to
establish
her
to
instruct
the
city
staff
or
negotiate
a
agents
concerning
the
position
to
be
taken
by
or
on
behalf
of
the
city.
In
negotiating
the
terms
of
contracts
for
the
acquisition
of
real
estate.
The
statutory
authorization
is
contained
in
gs,
143
dash,
31
8.11,
a
five
second,
the.