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A
Hi
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
esther
manheimer,
I'm
the
mayor
of
asheville,
and
I
want
to
welcome
you
to
this
september,
8th
meeting
of
council,
where
we
are
interviewing
candidates
to
fill
the
city
council
vacancy
created
by
b.j
kapoor's
recent
resignation.
A
A
A
I'm
getting
a
little
bit
of
feedback
so,
let's,
if
and
if
anyone
needs
to
mute,
who
hasn't
muted
their
themselves,
go
ahead
and
do
that.
I
think
I
think
our
first
interviewee
just
had
to
drop
out
to
here
and
we'll
probably
rejoin
us
in
just
a
second.
A
But
first
of
all,
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
introduce
the
public
to
the
council
members
who
are
participating
virtually
when
I
call
your
name.
Please
say
a
quick
hello.
The
first
one
is
vice
mayor
whistler
good
afternoon
councilman
haynes
good
afternoon,
councilwoman
mayfield,
hello,
councilwoman
smith,
good
afternoon
and
councilman
young.
A
Good
afternoon,
thanks
and
I
I
know-
we've
got
a
lot
of
staff
watching,
but
the
city
clerk
is
the
one
that
oversees
the
interview
for
vacancy
position
of
vacant
positions.
So
maggie
bolton,
our
city
clerk
is
here,
hello,
maggie,
hello,
okay,
our
first
interview
today
is
with
antoinette
mosley
and
we'll
get
started.
A
We
we
are
giving
20
minutes
to
each
candidate
antoinette
just
lost
three
with
me
minutes
with
me
already
making.
B
His
introduction
so
sorry
about
that,
but
so
we'll
we'll
get
get
started.
Miss
mosley!
If
you
could
just
I'll
kick
things
off.
C
If
you
could
just
tell
us
why
you're
interested
in
this
city
council
vacancy
position
good
afternoon
and
first
of
all,
thank
you,
mayor,
mannheimer
and
members
of
the
council
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
you
today,
and
I'd
also
like
to
greet
other
interviewees
who
will
come
after
me.
I
want
to
thank
them
for
the
work
that
they've
done
in
the
community.
It's
truly
an
impressive
bunch
of
neighbors
I'd
like
to
begin
by
telling
you
a
little
bit
about
myself.
C
I
am
a
fifth
generation,
asheville
native
seventh
generation
buncombe
county
resident.
I
come
from
a
long.
A
Line
of
individuals
who
have
sought
to
improve
our
community.
My
mother
was
a
educator
in
the
asheville
city
school
system
for
more
than
30
years
and
her
calling
was
to
assist
in
particular,
young
black
students
who
desired
to
go
on
to
college,
and
my
father
is
also
a
native
of
the
area.
A
John
lewis
and
other
college
students
who
really
sought
to
move
us
forward
as
a
nation
shortly
after
that
he
began
pastoring
throughout
the
state
and
wound
up
back
home
in
asheville
and
he
pastored
for
43
years
the
nazareth
first
baptist
church.
I
say
all
that
to
give
you
insight
into
what
motivates
me.
A
C
A
What
was
then
the
saint
eugene
catholic
school,
now
asheville
catholic,
and
then
I
went
on
at
that
after
that,
to
attend
the
asheville
school
north
carolina
law
school
and
then
my
practice
immediately
included
representation
of
the
martin
luther
king
junior
estate,
victims
of
domestic
violence
and
just
a
plethora
of
people
harmed
by
our
systems.
D
D
A
And
one
thing
I
know
for
sure
when
you
find
yourself
in
a
situation
where
your
life
depends
on
things,
you
have
an
opportunity
to
reevaluate,
and
you
start
thinking
and
realizing
that
you
have
a
finite
amount
of
time
to
make
a
difference
between
that
coronavirus,
a
racial
reckoning
that
we're
in
the
midst
of,
I
feel
called,
I
feel
called
to
advocate
for
my
neighbors,
I
feel
called
to
be
a
voice
for
those
who
often
find
themselves
voiceless
in
my
analytical
skills,
along
with
my
compassionate
side,
I
think
melds
well
for
this
moment
in
this
opportunity.
A
Okay,
well,
thank
you
so
much
for
applying
and
and
your
interest
in
this
internet.
As
I
told
you
and
every
candidate
who
actually
reached
out
to
me
and
wanted
to
talk
to
me,
I
gave
you
four
questions
and
I
told
you
I
was
going
to
ask
you
one.
Unfortunately,
if,
if
a
candidate
did
not
reach
out
to
me,
they
didn't
have
that
opportunity
to
see
the
questions
at
a
time.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
you-
and
this
is
kind
of
a
compound
one,
but
you
have
seen
these
questions.
E
Time
constraints
I
estimated
that
it
would
take
about
15
hours
per
week,
understanding
that
that
commitment
may
fluctuate.
I
came
to
that
conclusion
based
on
some
personal
knowledge.
I
have.
A
Often
attended
or
viewed
council
meetings,
so
I
anticipated
every
other
tuesday,
at
least
two
hours
and
frankly
hours
before
the
meeting
getting
ready
for
the
meetings,
because
if
anyone
who's
ever
been
in
a
professional
environment
can
tell
you
it
takes
a
lot
of
time
to
make
something.
Look
like
it
didn't
take
a
lot
of
time.
A
So
I
on
the
african-american
heritage,
commission
and
I
currently
serve
on
the
vance
monument,
so
recognizing
that
each
of
those
takes
a
couple
of
hours
and
what
I
also
did
was
look
through
the
committees
where
the
previous
councilman
and
I
had
added
all
of
those
together
and
I
came
up
with
around
15
to
20
hours
a
week.
A
How
do
I
make
that
happen?
Because
that's
a
lot
of
time?
I
am
one
of
these
insane
morning.
People
my
day
starts
at
4
30
every
morning.
I
know
I
know,
but
I
find
that
when
I
get
up
okay,
I
won't,
but
for
me
it's
a
great
time
to
get
work
done
a
great
time
to
focus
when
the
rest
of
the
world
isn't
quite
so
busy
and.
A
A
A
A
G
Tourism
in
our
community,
I
also
understand
the
importance
of
hotels
in
our
effort.
A
I
also
know
what
it's
like
to
work
at
a
job
that
doesn't
necessarily
pay
commiserate
with
the
amount
of
work
and
time
taken.
I
am
in
favor,
and
I
was
pleased
by
the
moratorium.
B
B
Okay,
all
right,
hi
internet,
and
thank
you
for
joining
us
today.
So
your
application
and
those
of
others
focused
very
heavily
on
the
the
current
issues
of
the
day.
Racial
divide,
policing,
the
budget
things
like
that
city
council
spends
a
lot
of
time.
We
are
spending
a
lot
of
time
on
those
issues,
but
we
also.
H
Thank
you
for
that
question,
and,
interestingly
enough
for
me
and
from
my
perspective
I
believe
one
of
the
questions
on
the
application
mentioned.
H
It
happens
that
I
worked
at
a
non-profit
in
the
area
that
focused
on
affordable
housing,
so
I
come
to
the
table
with
affordable
housing,
always
at
the
front
of
mind,
so
I
will
say
that
affordable
housing
is
something
that
we
can
really
delve
into
more
and
we
can
weave
equity
into
affordable
housing.
H
I'd
also
mention
the
use
of
public
land,
whether
that
land
is
sold
and
for
what
purpose
is,
and
I
believe
that's
something
we
should
consider
very
early
on.
H
Just
kind
of
follow
up
with
that
question:
what's
your
what's
your
vision,
your
overall
vision
for
affordable
housing
here
my
overall
vision
relates,
quite
frankly,
to
being
as
intentional
about
turning
back
the
effects
of
urban
renewal
and
redlining
being
as
intentional
as
in
rectifying
and
rectifying
those
situations,
as
our
government
was
in
setting
motion,
what
would
be
ideal
for
me
would
be
to
set
up
and
to
agree
to
affordable
housing
projects
that
not
only
benefited
a
few
people
of
color
by
providing
a
place
to
live,
but
I
would
also
love
to
see
affordable
housing
being
used
as
a
way
to
as
a
means
of
economic
development.
C
I
believe
we
need,
in
addition
to
affordable
housing,
just
a
greater
housing
supply
and
my
vision
would
be
within
say
the
next
five
years
places
that
were
historically
black
communities,
we're
starting
to
see
those
come
back.
H
H
H
A
step
closer
to
that
2036
vision,
I
see
notions
of
things
suggested
and
rep
in
the
reparations
moratorium
actually
being
put
into
play.
H
What
I
envision
is
that
I'll
be
able
to
tell
both
of
my
god
daughters
that
things
are
getting
better
we're
not
quite
where
we
need
to
be,
but
we
have
leadership
in
place
that
is
committed
to
doing
what
is
best
for
all
of
the
citizens.
I
want
our
home
to
be
a
place.
H
D
Okay,
thank
you.
Okay,
thank
you.
I'll
say
this
now:
okay,
everybody
I'm
getting
some
kind
of
feedback.
We
we
will
be
voting
tonight
on
this
first
thing
on
our
on
our
agenda,
so
everybody
stay
tuned,
but
we're
going
to
move
to
the
next
interviewee.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
participating
next
up
we're
going
to
talk
with
zakiyah
bill
rogers,
and
I
hope
I
said
your
name
right
yeah.
She
did
thank
you
good.
All
right,
miss
bell,
rogers
I'll,
kick
things
off
and
again
I'll.
Ask
you
the
same
question.
D
H
Persons
interviewees
and
to
all
of
those
who
serve
and
live
in
the
city
of
asheville
of
north
carolina.
Thank
you
for
this
great
honor
on
today.
It
is
just
an
absolute
honor
to
have
this
opportunity
as
a
just
a
regular
everyday
person.
This
feels
amazing,
so
just
being
here
is
amazing
for
me
to
tell
you
why
I
want
to
serve
on
a
city
council.
I
must
tell
you
how
I
I
became
a
member
of
asheville.
H
Community
asheville
has
been
my
safe
haven
since
march
21st
1995.
H
As
a
young
girl,
I
experienced
childhood
domestic
violence
and
on
my
15th
birthday,
my
mother
passed
me
a
black
trash
bag
and
told
me
to
pack
what
I
wanted,
and
it
was
the
first
time
I
ever
heard
of
asheville
and
what
I
was
told
and
what
I
experienced
were
two
different
things.
I
was
told
that
there
were
real
mountain
people
like
in
the
movie
deliverance,
so
I
was
terrified
coming
from
mississippi
to
asheville,
but
what
I
found
was
an
oasis
in
the
middle
of
mountains,
beauty
that
I
could
not
explain.
H
As
a
15
year
old
girl,
I
lived
in
the
helmet
shelter
for
over
a
month
and
a
half
with
my
mother
and
my
two
siblings.
Until
that
mother's
day,
when
we
moved
into
our
first
apartment,
as
I
navigated
through
the
systems
of
asheville
city
school.
E
F
E
H
Upfront
confrontations
around
racial
issues.
I
feel
that
I
have
been
called
to
lead
and
to
be
a
voice.
I
have
been
called
to
be
a
liaison
between
people
who
look
like
me,
and
people
who
don't
look
like
me.
I
feel,
like
I've,
been
called
to
be
an
ear
or
shoulder
and
a
keeper
of
my
community,
and
that
is
what
I
want
to
offer
to
a
city
council.
H
Zakiah,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
interest.
I
I
guess
I'm
I'm
up
next,
so
how
many
council
meetings
you've,
attended
or
listened
to
during
the
coronavirus
from
the
beginning
to
the
end
for
the
last
several
years,
and
what
has
surprised
you
about
the
scope
of
what
was
covered
or
addressed.
H
I
cannot
give
you
an
actual
number
of
times.
I
have
listened
to
front
to
end
because,
usually
I
have
been
during
the
pandemic.
I
have
been
taking
extra
shifts
at
the
shelter
because
we've
been
short
staffed
and
we.
E
Have
a
lot
of
people
who
are
what
you
call.
F
Sensitive
to
the
virus-
and
so
I
have
been
taking
up
during
this
time
actually
taking
shifts
that
I
I
usually
do
not
work
in
the
shelter.
I
think
the.
F
The
the
the
police
defunding
situation,
I
understand
the
levels
that
it
takes
to
address
a
matter,
I'm
so
great,
but
I
also.
H
Understand
the
history
of
police
in
america,
and
so
once
you
understand
the
history
of
police,
policing
in
america
and
understand
the
cries
of
our
community,
I
think
those
decisions
should
always
go
into.
Those
decisions
should
always
be
thought
carefully,
not
only
with
your
heart
but
with
history
and
what
your
community
is
asking
for.
H
H
I
do
not
believe
so
that
it
would
be
the
right
decision.
I
am
very
aware
of
the
hotels
that
we
have
in
asheville.
I
see
more
hotels
than
I
see
affordable
housing
as
someone
who
is.
G
H
On
the
front
line
with
people
who
need
affordable
housing
and
who
cannot
get
affordable
housing,
I
often
say
welcome
to
asheville
where
we
can
house
our
guests,
but
we
can't
house
our
people.
I
look
at
women
and
children
daily
daily
who
cannot
get.
G
Eleven
hundred
dollars
to
fifteen
hundred
dollars,
just
to
be
absolutely
honest,
if
I
did
not
buy
my
house
in
2007
and
I
had
to
go
and
find
somewhere
to
live,
I
would
not
be
able
to
afford
to
live
in
asheville,
and
so
no,
I
don't
feel
like.
We
need
another
hotel
or
or
you
all
need
to
be
left
out
of
that
as
council.
H
H
I
can't
hear
you
sorry,
I
sorry
about
that.
Just
wanted
to
say
I'll
echo,
my
thanks
for
you
being
willing
to
jump
into
the
fray
here.
So
my
question
is
that
your
application
and
the
application
of
everyone
else
focused
very
heavily
on
the
issues
of
the
day:
equity,
racial
division,
policing,
the
budget
and
that's
appropriate,
because
we
ask
those
questions.
We
do
a
lot
more
than
just
that.
H
We
are
spending
a
lot
of
time
on
that,
but
we
do
a
lot
more
than
that,
and
so
my
question
to
you
is:
what
else
are
you
do
you
see
as
priorities
and
where
would
you
want
to
focus
your
time
in
addition
to
the
things
that
you've
already
talked
about,
education
is
huge
for
me.
I
am
a
product
of
asheville
city
schools
and
I
remember
being
there
in
1998
and
my
guidance
counselor
did
not
help
me
complete
any
applications.
H
Nor
did
she
help
me
write
any
evaluation
forms
or
anything.
H
I
actually
had
teachers
who
helped
me
get
into
college
and
if
it
wasn't
for
them,
I
would
not
be
where
I
am
today
after
I
graduated
from
college,
and
I
was
raising
my
brother
and
sister
after
my
mom
died
and
I
had
custody
of
them.
She
saw
me
and
she
said,
oh,
what
are
you
doing
and
I
said
I've
graduated
from
college
and
she
said:
oh,
you
went
to
college.
B
Enough
to
go
to
college
and
in
actuality
I
had
a
learning
disability
and
no
one
picked
it
up
until
jackie
burris.
My
history
teacher
stop
talk
to
me
and
realize
I
could
tell
you
everything.
I
just
couldn't
write
it
down,
and
so
that
is
a
huge
thing
for
me,
because
I
still
see
that
as
an
issue
today.
B
If
you
guys
can
hear
me,
I'm
going
to
go
on
and
answer
my
question
because
I
think
you
can
hear
me,
I
think
you're
just
moving
around
doing
mommy
stuff,
but
no
battery
popped
up.
B
Okay,
it's
fine!
What
boards
have
city
boards
have
you
served
on.
H
How
many
years
have
you
served,
and
could
you
tell
us
how
your
leadership
on
those
boards
have.
B
Been
successful,
yes,
I
have
been
on
the
ywca
board
and
I'm
currently
on
that
board.
Right
now,
as
a
second
chair,
I
have
been
on
the
building
bridges
board
and
I
did
that.
For
three
years
I
have
been
on
the
different
strokes
performing
arts
board
and
I
am
a
member
of
alpha
kappa
alpha,
sorority
incorporated
and
I've
been
a
member
of
that
organization
for
19
years,
where
I
have
served
as
president
vice
president
secretary,
hanukkah's
or
greeter,
and
multiple
and
also
scholarship,
lead
chair.
B
So
I
have
always
had
an
opinion
been.
I
Known
as
feisty,
because
I'm
gonna
say
exactly
what
I
I
feel,
but
I'm
not
gonna
make
you
feel
bad
or
anything
like
that,
but
I'm
gonna
say
it
because
I
think
voices
are
important
to
hear
and
not
only
am
I
going
to
share.
I
am
going
to
listen,
I'm
the
type
of
person.
I
don't
listen
to
give
you
an
answer.
I
listen
to
hear
what
you're
trying
to
tell
me
and
understand
what
you're
trying
to
say
so.
Have
you
served
on
any
city
boards
or
commissions?
I
I,
sir.
I
cannot
remember
the
city
board
that
I
was
on.
It
had
to
do
with
parks
and
rec,
and
my
brain
is
just
kind
of
wonky
because
I'm
I'm
old.
Now
it
was
on
the
park
from
redford
and
also
I
I
currently
was
a
I
mean
recently
was
just
appointed
to
aboard,
and
I
I
cannot
remember
that
I
can
see
it
in
my
head,
but
I
can't
remember
the
name
of
it
right
now.
I
know
it
has
h
r.
I
I
can't
remember
right
now:
hrca,
yes,
hrca
and
I'm
sorry.
I've
cut
back
on
coffee.
So
thank
you.
Yes,.
I
Hi
zakiyah
hello,
classmate
of
mine,
and
I
actually
remember
that
same
guidance
counselor,
because
that
same
guidance,
counselor
told
me,
I
couldn't
go
to
college
either
and
jackie
burris
actually
helped
me
a
lot
going
forward
too.
So
I
share
those
stories
I
want
to
give
you
opportunity
to
say
anything.
You
think
we
need
to
hear
moving
forward
as
to
why
you
need
to
be
on
council.
I
Well,
I
feel
like
I
need
to
be
on
council,
because
not
because
I
I
applied
or
anything
like
that,
I
am
a
mother.
I
am
a
wife,
I
am
a
sister.
I
am
a
daughter
and
I
am
asheville.
I
have
been
here
for
25
years.
No,
I
was
not
born
and
raised
here,
but
I
am
asheville.
I
am
the
product
of
asheville.
If
asheville
was
a
gardener,
this
is
the
flower
that
you
get.
I
I
believe
that
asheville
was
small
enough,
that
we
could
blueprint
something
so
amazing
that
we
could
go
out
and
teach
other
communities
how
to
be
as
great
as
we
are,
and
I
say
that
not
being
funny
or
anything
like
that,
but
we
are
asheville,
is
small
enough
that
we
could
design
a
program
to
change
everything
and
help
our
citizens
action.
Our
residents
actually
thrive
and
not
just
live.
I
I
want
to
be
a
person
who
inspire
other
people
who
think
they
can't
to
know
that
they
can
to
to
feel
that
they
can
and
to
do
it.
I
I
want
to
inspire
more
mommies,
more
sisters,
more
brothers,
more
everything
to
get
up
and
say
you
know
what
I
can
do
this.
G
G
I
Thank
you.
I
think
we
made
it
through
everyone,
and
we
just
have
a
moment
here-
is
there?
Does
anyone
else?
Have
a
question
they'd
like
to
ask
before
we
move
on
to
the
next
interviewee,
I'm
just
looking
at
the
schedule
and
candidates
if
you're,
if
you're
on
this
google
meets-
and
I
can't
see
everybody
on
my
screen-
please
make
sure
your
camera
is
off
until
it's
your
turn
to
be
interviewed.
Thank.
I
Okay,
I
think
we're
good,
I
think
we're
gonna
move
on.
Thank
you
so
much
miss
belle,
rogers
for
being
willing
to
serve
and
and
enduring
this
interview
here
in
this
strange
process
we're
having
to
use
today,
then
this
is
our
now
and
in
the
midst
of
our
now
we're
looking
great.
I
Thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Next
we're
going
to
be
interviewing,
mr
robert
thomas,
and
he
hasn't
popped
up
on
my
screen.
Yet
there
he
is
okay,
hello,
hi.
How
are
you
we're
we're
just
four
minutes
or
so
ahead
of
schedule,
so
we're
doing
okay,
so
we're
gonna?
The
pool
will
be
how
about
guys
if
we
go
in
a
little
bit
different
order
this
time,
how
about
we
go
backwards,
water
right
so
keith.
I
If
we
start
with
you,
will
that
work
this
time
but
I'll,
but
by
opening
up
to
say,
thank
you
for
your
willingness
to
serve,
and
would
you
please,
mr
thomas
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
why
you're
interested
in
the
council
vacancy?
Yes,
I
guess
I'll
start
off
with
a
brief
break
background
about
myself.
I
feel
like
a
lot
of
you
all
are
very
familiar
with
my
background.
I
I
mean
I'm
a
native
of
asheville
born
and
raised.
My
grandfather
was
reverend
james
baxter.
My
grandmother
was
miss
sally
baxter,
my
mother
tiffany
thomas,
my
father,
robert
thomas,
and
you
know
I
was
raised
here
and
a
large
part
of
me
wanting
to
be
on
council.
Is
you
know,
I've
experienced
the
inequities
firsthand
I've
experienced
the
disparities
firsthand
and
I
want
to
play
my
role
in
affecting
change
to
assist
the
community
at
a
large
scale.
I
F
You
know
I
would
like
to
be
very
involved
and
engaged
with
the
community,
while
serving
as
a
council
member
directly
on
the
ground
inside
the
communities
still
attending
the
meetings
that
I
attend.
Currently
in
this
moment,
and
discussing
and
figuring
things
out
with
community
instead
of
for
community.
I
Another
one
of
my
reasons
for
wanting
to
join
council
is
I'd
like
to
set
a
precedent
for
individuals
such
as
myself
that
have
the
lived
experience
that
I
have
that
come
from
the
background
that
I
come
from
and
show
them
that
anything
is
possible.
I
Greatness
is
still
achievable,
no
matter
where
you
come
from,
and
the
stigmas
that
are
attached
to
your
name,
and
I
think
that
that
could
play
a
large
role
in
healing
this
glass
ceiling
that
a
lot
of
underserved
individuals
have
within
their
minds
that
their
background
is
what
continues
to
hold
them
down.
I
would
like
to
show
them
that
moving
forward
is
possible.
I
I
You
know
what
it
is
that
you
all
go
through
the
feelings
that
you
have
when,
when
you
have
the
the
decision-making
power
that
has
such
vast
ripple
effects
to
affect
an
entire
community
of
individuals
by
the
decisions
that
you
all
make,
and
you
know
I
just
want
to
bring
a
different
perspective
that,
as
of
so
far,
has
not
been
brought
to
this
council,
one
of
the
individuals
that
I
look
up
to
break
me.
I
That
has
achieved
what
it
is
that
I
would
like
to
achieve
the
individual
that
goes
by
the
name
of
braxton
winston
in
charlotte
and
he's
an
activist
that
has
become
a
city
council
member
and
stayed
on
for
two
terms
and
is
now
you
know
potentially
looking
into
bigger
things.
But
he's
made
vast
amounts
of
change
and
the
key
to
his
success.
I
What
I've
seen
was
his
connectivity
with
community
throughout
the
whole
time
and
how
he
did
everything
with
community,
and
you
know
I
just
want
the
opportunity
to
see
if
I
can
fulfill
a
different
part
of
my
life
purpose
by
coming
into
this.
I
I
I'd
like
to
say,
you
know,
that's
that's
extremely
obvious.
The
perspective
that
I
bring.
J
Is
one
my
connectivity
with
community
and
my
how
I
currently
engage
community
at
all
levels.
I
C
D
K
E
So
definitely
the
biggest
asset
that
I
bring
to
this
council
is
literally
my
lived
experience.
What
I've
went
through
the
individuals
that
I
connect
with,
and
that
is
the
underserved
population,
that
is
the
individuals
that
are
getting
paid
minimum
wage.
That
is
the
individuals
that
have
the
stigma
behind
them
of
their
past,
that
that
is
the
individuals
that
comprise
most
of
asheville.
E
I
I
I
Could
you
kind
of
give
us
an
idea
of
some
goals
you
have
or
the
plan
the
plan
that
you
would
put
in
place
to
make
that
bridge
work?
I
Yeah?
Definitely
the
plan
is.
I
have
a
massive
amount
of
wonderful
people
around
me
to
where
it
wouldn't
just
be
me
like.
I
would
have
so
much
assistance
with
with
my
purview
with
my
ten-year-old
on
council
and
to
grow
and
learn
and
receive
the
wisdom
of
my
elders
at
the
same
time
evolve
and
use
that
to
advance
strategically
strategically
advance
the
different
initiatives
that
we're
looking
to
look
into,
such
as
reimagining
law
enforcement,
such
as
a
you
know,.
D
D
Of
of
the
hotel
industry
and
the
just
the
whole
economic
structure
of
asheville,
because
tourism
is
our
biggest
industry.
So
for
me
it's
like
how
can
we
add
on
to
that
and
bring
in
some
other
sectors
as
well
and
find
a
balance
between
the
hotel
industry
and
the
rest
of
the
city,
because
I
I
I
see
the
same
issues
that
a
lot
of
everyone
else
sees.
D
D
You
know
the
hotel
industry,
for
example,
can
the
conditional
zoning
that
you
all
are
looking
into
implementing
if
you're
not
borrowed
out
of
the
decision
making
process
continuously
implementing
that.
I
Allows
you
to
leverage
a
decision
to
where
the
hotelers
come
in
and
they
are
they.
They
have
a
incentive
in
their
minds
to
offer
things
that
would
further
benefit
the
community
instead
of
just
coming
in
and
receiving
a
permit
and
building
something
they
usually
come
with
things
extra
that
are
usually
extra
things
that
come
along
with
those
deals
and
bargains.
So
that's
just
one
example
of
learning
the
insides
of
of
politics
right,
because
it's
a
lot
deeper
than
a
four
to
three
vote.
There's
a
whole
lot.
I
That
goes
along
with
the
decisions
of
these
votes
and
how
you
leverage
these
decisions
to
benefit
the
community
and
just
learning,
and
seeing
how
to
tweak
these
to
benefit
different
demographics,
the
creation
of
programs,
creating
the
structures
that
would
benefit
the
underserved
a
little
bit
more
and
then
connecting
those
things
once
they're
created
to
the
community
and
creating
a
specific
amount
of
awareness
that
the
individuals
that
you
know,
bridging
that
gap
in
between
community
and
the
policies
to
whether
individuals
in
the
community
are
aware
of
these
different
things.
I
I
C
Is
that
better?
Okay
y'all?
Don't
like
the
darth
vader
with
julie?
Sorry,
okay!
So
rob
again!
Thanks
for
being
here,
you
know
you
you've
talked
today
all
the
creatives
you've
talked
about,
and
everybody's
application
was
really
focused
on
the
issues
that
we're
currently
wrestling
with
right
now,
so
equity,
policing,
the
budget,
racial
division,
reparations.
I
Hugely
important,
we
need
to
put
a
lot
of
time
there,
but
that
that
isn't.
The
only
thing
that
we're
all
doing
is
counsel
so
tell
us
just
a
little
bit
more
about
some
of
the
other
priorities
that
you
would
have
and
where
you
would
want
to
focus
your
time.
In
addition
to
all
of
the
things
that
we've
been
talking
about.
I
In
addition,
I
would
definitely
have
to
sell,
affordable
housing.
I've
identified
a
huge
issue
where
you
know
affordable
housing
is
decided.
You
know
on
the
federal
level
you
have
to
top
80,
you
have
to
the
bottom
twenty
percent
and
it's
in
the
middle
of
the
six
sixty
percent
ami
area,
median
income-
and
you
know
a
lot
of
individuals-
don't
even
fall
into
the
bottom.
Twenty
percent.
Whenever
you
talk
about
the
most
vulnerable,
the
most
underserved
populations
and
the
60
percent,
usually
isn't
your
every
average
everyday
working
individual
within
this
city.
I
You
know
it's
our
teachers,
it's
our
health
care,
pro
workers,
it's
our
essential
workers,
it's
it's
the
most
common
ash
billion
so
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
counteract
these
different
systems
to
where
affordable
housing
really
becomes
affordable.
For
for
more
than
just
top
tier
individuals
in
asheville,
I
think
that
is.
That
is
something
that
is
definitely
going
to
take
an
initiative
and
a
deep
dive
into
what
can
be
structured.
What
can
be
created
because,
as
it
currently
stands,
you
can't
you
can't
change
the
definition.
C
Of
the
equation
and
formula
that
is
used.
B
To
produce
affordable
housing,
so
you
know,
I
see
affordable
housing
stamped
on
all
types
of
things
when
it's
not
really
affordable
for
the
average
ass
bill,
ash
billy.
B
Okay,
I'll
try
again
hi
rob
and
thank
you
for
being
willing
to
serve
my
question,
for
everyone
has
been
around
the
hotel
industry
and
you've
sort
of
already
gone
there.
I
So
I'm
going
to
quickly
read
you
my
my
question
and
see
if
you
want
to
further
address
it
later
today,
council
will
be
presented
with
recommendations
from
the
hotel
development
study.
The
city
was
required
to
do
under.
In
order
to
justify
I
lost
my
screen,
so
with
me,
the
moratorium
approved
by
councilman
there.
I
It
will
recommend
moving
council
from
the
review
process
establishing
a
point
system
for
hotel
developers
to
meet
in
order
to
receive
approval,
with
all
the
debates
still
going
on
at
whether
or
not
we
should
resume
building
new
hotels
at
all
and
with
rule
changes
that
will
most
certainly
result
in
the
immediate
return
of
hotel
development.
Do
you
think
that
removing
council
review
of
hotels
at
this
point
in
time
is
the
right
decision?
I
Of
course,
not
obviously
from
my
previous
statement,
you
know
it
gives
it
gives
the
power
to
be
able
to
to
leverage
decision
making
to
where
you
can
get
the
hotels
to
give
additional
things
to
our
community
that
benefit
our
community.
You
can
get
them
to
come
to
the
table
with
ideas
around.
B
Different
things
that
that
benefit
our
community,
such
as
investments.
B
I
could
I
could
see
a
large,
a
large
amount
of
power
being
lost
with
with
council
not
being
at
the
table
on
these
discussions
and
situations.
I
could
potentially
see
the
hotel
industry
coming
back
in
full
force
and
then
some
because
right
now
they
have
an
incentive
to
bring
things
to
the
table
that
further
benefit
the
community
outside
of
this
hotel
that
they're
building.
If
you
take
that
away,
then
you
go
back
to
what
we
had
years
ago,
where
you.
I
B
Individuals
that
would
be
building
hotels
based
off
of
specific
criteria.
Zoning-
and
I
just
don't
see
that
same
leverage
being
able
to
be
used
within
a
point
system
and
that
that
kind
of
worries
me.
It
also
makes
it
harder
to
regulate
the
amount
of
hotels
that
are
being
built.
So
I
I
see
that
not
being
an
effective
solution
to
what
we
currently
face.
B
If
anything,
things
need
to
be
built
up
around
what
you
already
have
done
to
to
assist
our
community
within
the
hotel
industry
and
not
taking
things
away,
not
taking
tools
and
systems
that
allow
you
to
leverage
these
decisions.
Thank
you
this.
This
is
gwen
whistler.
Mr
thomas,
thank
you
for
for
applying
this.
I
really
appreciate
your
interest,
so
you've
touched
on
this
a
little,
but
I
guess
I'm,
I'm
gonna
ask
you
to
get
a
little
more
granular.
B
Over
the
last
several
years,
the
residents
of
asheville
have
expressed
concern
over
the
concentration
of
the
service
industry,
primarily
tourism.
In
the
city.
There
is
tension
between
residents
and
the
tourism
industry.
How
would
you
specifically
suggest
city
council
help
to
heal
or
reconcile
that
transparency?
B
That's
probably
the
top
thing
that
I
would
always
recommend
you
know.
I've
had
come
with
us.
I've
had
meetings
with
with
with
your
council
members.
E
Before
and
that
that
was
the
one
thing
that
that
I
was
spoke
on
within
that
meeting
as
well
bringing
a
full
understanding
of
the
of
how
everything.
B
Economically
impacts,
the
city
that
we
call
asheville
and
identifying
with
community
where
we
can
and
should
grow
at,
and
you
know
that
can't
be
decided
by
me
or
you
know
one
individual
see
what
would
I
advise,
I
would
say
looking.
B
You
know
business
development,
that's
that
is
probably
what
I
would
look
into
as
far
as
rectifying
that
situation,
and
you
know
this
is
definitely
off
the
top
of
my
head
but
yeah,
I
would
say,
business
development
would.
K
B
B
Anybody,
okay,
do
you
do
you
feel
like
there
are
things.
M
Experience
something
that
local
government
does
well,
I
think,
is
identify
issues
and
receive
metrics
around
specific
instances.
You
know
data
collection.
I
think
you
all
do
a
pretty
good
job
whenever
you
all,
you
know,
identify
an
issue
and
then
figure
out
the
needs
for
data
and
metrics.
M
I
think
you
all
do
a
a
reasonable
job
upon
accruing
these
metrics
things
that
you
all
do
not
do
well,
I'm
gonna
pick
one
community
engagement
by
far,
I
think,
would
be
one
thing
that
you
all
so
far
are
terrible
at,
and
you
know
it's
just
my
honest
opinion
but
yeah.
I
think.
D
D
Is
my
thing
clear,
or
are
you
getting
a
lot
of
feedback
when
I
talk
to
no,
it's
clear,
okay,
all
right!
Okay,
I
think
we're
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
the
next
candidate.
M
And
I
just
want
to
tell
you
that
we
appreciate
you
applying
for
this
vacancy
and
being
interviewed
today,
so
we
appreciate
it
and
I'll
say
again:
we
we
do
plan
to,
as
you
can
see
in
our
agenda,
we'll
be
voting
on
this
vacancy
appointment
first
thing
at
our
meeting
this
evening.
M
Thank
you
for
having
me
thanks.
Okay,
we're
gonna
petite
vodka.
M
E
No
okay,
let
let
me
do
this.
Do
you
want
to
try
to
work
on
your
connectivity
issues
and
we'll
go
to
rich
lee?
Who
I
think
is
on
here
already
so
esther?
It
could
also
be
that
his
microphone
isn't
working.
His
speaker
is
clearly
working
because
he
can
hear
us
but
critique.
Maybe
your
microphone
isn't
turned
on
somehow
so
petite.
Can
you
hear
us
give
us
a
thumbs
up?
If
you
can
hear
us.
M
To
just
go
on,
no
I'm
just
saying
that:
could
somebody
from
I.t
get
a
hold
of
boutique
and
see
if
they
can
walk
him
through
and
then
we
could
just
go
ahead
and
have
rich
or
I
don't
know,
okay
and
an
option
may
be
that
he
may
have
to
join
by
phone.
It's
just
as
effective.
He
joins
my
phone.
M
M
All
right!
Welcome
we're
we're!
It
looks
like
everybody's
on
here,
okay
good
afternoon.
I
will
kick
things
off
in
council,
so
why
don't
we
go
in
order
starting
with
ryan?
Can
we
do
that?
M
Okay,
all
right,
I'm
trying
something
new
here,
all
right!
So,
mr
lee,
if
you
could
please
tell
us
why
you're
interested
in
this
council
vacancy
okay,
hi
everybody.
I
know
I've
spoken
to
all
of
you
over
the
years,
but
I'm
rich
lee
I've
been
a
resident
of
asheville
or
the
asheville
area
for
about
23
years.
So
that
means
I
moved
up
here.
M
As
a
teenager,
I
lived
a
lot
of
the
asheville
experience
as
a
retail
worker
service
industry
worker,
a
teacher
and
college
student,
and
for
the
last
nine
years
I've
been
a
investment
advisor
with
the
firm
edward
jones.
I
am
I
put
in
my
name
for
this
position
because
I
am
already
a
candidate
for
asheville
city
council.
M
I
was
one
of
the
finalists
that
cleared
the
primary
in
march
and
but
I
believe
strongly
that
the
person
who
is
chosen
for
this
appointment
should
have
taken
an
opportunity
to
stand
before
the
voters
of
asheville
and
be
vetted,
and
I
believe
I
have
been
vetted
several
times
over
the
last
five
years
or
so.
M
Hi
rich,
it's
brian
nice,
to
meet
you
later
today,
council
will
be
presented,
presented
with
recommendations
from
the
hotel
development
study.
The
city
was
required
to
do
in
order
to
justify
the
hotel
moratorium
approved
by
council
there.
It
will
recommend
removing
council
from
the
review
process
establishing
a
point
system
for
hotel
developers
to
meet
in
order
to
receive
approval,
with
all
the
debates
still
going
on
as
to
whether
or
not
we
should
resume
building
no
new
hotels
at
all
and
with
the
rule,
changes
that
will
most
certainly
result
in
the
immediate
return
of
hotel
development.
M
F
Of
known,
consistent
rule
system
like
what
the
these
regulations
attempt
to
do,
I
my
concern
is,
I
don't
feel
like
they
are
going
to
do
it,
and
I
I
see
the
the
door
being
opened
by
these
regulations
for,
like
you,
said,
immediate
unwanted
consequences,
especially
around
the
river
arts
district,
and
that
that
is
my
major
concern.
I
don't.
M
I
don't
think
I
could
vote
in
support
of
the
the
overlay
and
the
regulation.
The
point
system,
as
they're
proposed.
M
Thank
you,
okay,
hi
rich,
it's
julie.
I
am
going
to
deviate
and
not
ask
my
normal
question,
because
I
know
a
lot
more
about
your
other
interests
than
I
do.
The
other
candidate's
interests.
So
sorry
you're
not
going
to
get
the
easy
answer
there.
So
my
question
to
you
is
in
one
of
your
areas
of
interest,
and
that
is
transportation.
M
So,
given
the
city's
budget,
the
current
budget
situation,
the
current
sort
of
type
situation
that
we're
in
and
probably
the
the
inadvisability,
if
that's
a
word
of
seeking
to
generate
new
revenue
through
tax
increases
in
the
at
least
in
the
next
couple
of
years,
how
would
you
advise
and
how
would
you
work
on
council
to
continue
to
advance
our
transportation
priorities
which
for
me
include,
of
course,
expansion
of
the
transit
system,
continuing
to
build
sidewalks
and
greenways
and
bike
infrastructure
for
capital
works?
M
Thank
you
for
asking
this
by
the
way
so
for
capital
projects
like
repaving
streets,
building,
sidewalks
and
greenways
and
bus
shelters.
I
think
we
need
a
new
round
of
municipal
bonds,
especially
in
transportation,
to
to
come
out
immediately.
M
I
think
we
got
the
savings
that
we
got
from
doing
the
work
of
the
last
five
years
by
with
bond
funds
compared
to
trying
to
do
it
as
a
pay,
as
you
go
with
cost
of
construction
and
every
kind
of
labor
just
going
through
the
roof
means
we
put
money
in
asheville's
pocket
by
financing
it
at
the
low
rates
that
we
have
and
some
of
the
projects
like
the
bus
shelters
that
fell
under
those
bonds
actually
came
in
under
budget
on
the
bus
shelters
that
we
built-
and
I
was
trying
to.
M
You
know
we
have
a
real
success
story
in
managing
the
bonds
in
a
way
to
catch
up
on
our
especially
our
transportation
needs
when
it
comes
to
transit,
especially
because
I
know
you
guys
have
given
a
lot
of
thought
on
how
transit
is
going
to
be
funded
as
we
implement
the
transit
master
plan,
and
you
know
that
I
have
been
working
on
that
a
lot
as
a
member
of
the
multi-modal
commission.
M
I
think
we
need
the
county
to
start
to
chip
in,
and
I
think,
there's
a
really
strong
potential
to
have
county
funds
contributing
to
the
the
transit
to
our
transit
system,
whether
that's
in
exchange
for
extending
bus
lines
outside
of
city
limits,
which
I
think
needs
to
happen
in
the
near
future,
or
whether
that's
just
recognition
that
city
residents
are
county
residents
too,
and
a
major
city
service
that
is
used
by
county
residents
every
day
is
not
seeing
its
share
contributed
by
the
county.
M
The
third
funding
source
that
I
thought
was
on
track
to
happen,
and
I
know
we've
all
been
burned
by
this
before
is-
I
think
the
tda
needs
to
step
up.
I
know
that's
the
low-hanging
fruit
answer.
It
seemed
like
during
the
what's
what
was
called
the
tmip
process,
this
reimagining
of
how
to
use
tda
funds
earlier
this
year
and
last
year
before
the
pandemic,
hit
that
there
was
a
real
openness
to
using
tourism
funds
to
fund
a
downtown
circulator.
G
M
K
M
Hi
rich,
how
are
you
hey,
I'm
good
shanica?
How
are
you
pretty
good,
pretty
good?
This
has
been
a
very
turbulent
year
and
in
the
fight
for
racial
justice.
Allyship
to
the
black
community
has
kind
of
changed
so
because
the
stakes
are
higher.
So
my
question
to
you
is:
how
would
you
say
that
your
allyship
to
the
black
community
has
transformed
this
year
in
light
of
the
pandemic,
in
light
of
the
death
of
george
floyd
and
the
era
that
we're
talking
about
reparations
for
black
asheville?
M
Sure
so,
like
you
said,
the
the
stakes
seem
a
lot
higher
this
year
and
I
know
for
black
community
members.
The
stakes
in
a
lot
of
ways
have
always
been
this
high.
You
know
it
didn't.
It
wasn't
2020
that
johnny
rush
got
chased
by
asheville
police
officers
and
beaten
on
the
street
just
about
a
block
from
here.
M
You
know
other
incidents
of
police,
overuse
of
force
and
police
violence,
and
even
just
the
day-to-day
citation
of
people
for
for
what
they
call
homeless
crimes
like
trespassing
such
which
disproportionately
affects
our
community
of
color,
because.
C
C
The
movement
has
changed,
has
turned
a
corner,
and
that
is
to
the
credit
of
here
in
asheville,
but
also
you
know,
nationwide
and
globally,
to
a
lot
of
in
a
lot
of
cases,
young
black
activists
in
the
case
of
the
racial
justice
coalition
activists,
across
faiths
and
across
across
ages,
that
represent
a
big
slice
of
astro's
black
community.
C
M
Ideas
now-
and
I
can't
claim
any
credit
for
that-
that's
that's
a
that's
the
credit
of
the
the
people
who
who
put
together
the
protest
and
put
together
leadership.
M
I
do
think
when
I
look
at
how
my
place
in
this
is
obviously
I'm
not
the
representational
choice
for
council.
You
know
I'm
a
white
guy
and
for
you
know,
400
years
of
american
history,
politics
have
favored
people
that
look
like
me
and
come
from
my
background
and
that's
something
I
wrestled
with.
As
I
made
the
decision
to
run
this
year.
M
Does
you
know,
does
asheville
need
a
white
candidate
and
it's
something
that
I
wrestled
with
when
I
put
in
my
name
for
this
appointment
and
when
I
saw
that
you
know
of
the
six
people
to
make
the
short
list,
five
of
them
are
people
of
color,
and
so
I
guess
the
way
I
come
down
on
this
to
answer
your
question.
Is
you
know
I?
M
I
was
reading
this
article
this
morning
about
george
mitchell,
the
former
u.s
senator,
who
got
tapped
to
lead
the
the
northern,
ireland
and
uk
peace
accords?
What
became
the
good
friday
agreement
and
he
was
a
guy
that
didn't
have
any
connection
to
either
side.
He
was
actually
he's
arab-american
and
he
was
a
older
white
statesman.
M
You
know
he,
but
precisely
because
he
was
trusted
by
both
sides
and
not
seen
as
belonging
to
either
side
of
the
uk
ireland
debate,
he
was
able
to
be
a
really
effective
negotiator
there
and
the
main
thing
that
they
talk
about
him
when
they
talk
about
him
now,
22
years
later,
is
his
patience
and
his
his
willingness
to
listen.
They
said
that
they
say
that
he
once
listened
to
somebody
talk
for
seven
hours
straight
without
saying
anything.
M
Now
an
ability
to
listen
and
negotiate
and
to
be
excited
about
ideas
and
to
turn
to
how
to
make
them
work
and
to
be
the
to
be
the
person
who
fits
the
puzzle
pieces
from
every
side
of
asheville
together
without
necessarily
you
know,
obviously
belonging
to
to
them.
M
Good
afternoon,
rich,
hey
keith,
I
want
to
give
you
an
opportunity
to
just
kind
of
add
anything.
You
think
we
need
to
hear
before
we
leave
out
of
these
interviews
anything
to
make
your
case
for
being
on
counselor.
Just
anything
you
want
to
add
sure.
So
I
know
this
has
been
reported.
C
But
if
I
were
to
be
appointed.
B
Every
day,
to
the
extent
that
you
can
and
still
be
socially
distant
and
all
of
that-
and
I'm
I'm
really
working
to
make
this
to
make
this
my
year
and
you
know
to
to
be
the
person
for
these
times.
So
I
do
want
to
let
you
know
that
if
I
were
appointed.
M
I
would
not
be
dropping
out
of
the
race.
I
think,
there's
a
concern
that
several
people
who
are
smarter
about
politics
than
me
have
brought
up
that.
If
I
were
appointed
then
I
would
could
be
in
a
situation
where
people
say
well.
Rich
has
already
won,
so
I
can
vote
for
three
other
people
and
I'd
actually
hurt
myself
from
the
vote.
So
I'm
not
making
any
commitment
that
if
I
were
appointed
I
would
you
know.
If
I
didn't
win
in
november,
I
would
drop
out
or
anything,
but
I
want
you
guys
to
know
that.
M
B
B
So
I
have
a
question
so
hi,
rich
hi
and
act,
I'm
I'm!
I'm
gonna,
give
you
a
couple
definitions
and
sort
of
ask
you
to
put
yourself
on
a.
N
N
N
N
N
I
think
you
guys,
I
think,
there's
a
responsibility
on
city
council
to
think
of
unintended
consequences,
and
I
know
that
in
the
three
or
five
years,
depending
on
which
class
you
guys
are
in
that
you've
been
on
council.
I
know
that
you
guys
have
faced
lots
of
decisions
that
seemed
like
they
made
sense.
That's
and
seemed
like
the
you
know
seemed
like
easy
calls
that
blew
up
in
some
way,
and
it
reminds
me
a
lot
of
you
know.
N
My
work
that
I
do
in
my
professional
life
is
mostly
about
considering
the
risks
not
just
the
rewards,
and
so
when
somebody
comes
and
says,
for
example,
let's
defund
the
police
department
by
50
percent,
which
is
an
idea
that
I
I
support
in
my
heart-
and
you
know
my
my
natural
inclination
is
towards
it's
on
city
council
doesn't
have
the
luxury,
I
guess
you'd,
say,
of-
of
of
making
a
decision
from
passion
on
that.
You
have
to
consider
what
if
we
decide
to
do
this
and
there
is
a
spike
of
crime.
N
Well,
a
crime
spike
affects
a
poor
community
of
color
more
than
it
affects
a
suburban
white
community
neighborhood.
You
know
you
could
be
unintentionally
bringing
consequences
on
people
that
that
the
aim
is
to
protect
and
it's
difficult
and
it's
naughty,
and
I'm
not
saying
I
mean
naughty
like
having
knots
in
it.
Not
naughty.
Like
you
know,
improper,
I'm
not
saying-
and
you
know
a
lot
of
the
activists
that
I
know
in
asheville
to
their
credit.
B
Think
of
are
thinking
that
through
and
are
and
they're
very,
very
you
know,
I
think
of
like.
N
C
Worked
on
and
there's
a
lot
of
really
smart
people
that
are
working
through
the
the
pros
and
cons
of
everything,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
buck
stops
with
you.
N
C
And
so
my
while
my
activist
heart
is
a
one
on
police
reform,
my
my
mentality
as
a
potential
city
leader
is:
let's
do
it,
but
what
are
we
going
to
replace
it
with?
How
can
we
implement
it
in
a
way
that
makes
sure
that
this
is
not
bringing
it's
not
bringing
harm
on
low-income
communities
of
color?
You
know
how
how
does
this?
How
does
this
look
and
what's
the
plan
and
that's
the
that's
the
work
that
y'all
signed.
N
Up
for
that,
I'm
signing
up
for
is
how
do
you?
How
do
you
take
the
all
the
heart
and
turn
it
into?
You
know
our
new
direction
as
a
city.
N
We
we
just
now
have
about
one
minute
left
rich.
If
you
could,
you
know
just
in
closing
what
just
for
the
public
watching?
Can
you
just
mention
the
boards
and
commissions
you've
served
on
over
the
past
several
years.
I
don't
think
that
came
up
yet
during
this
okay,
I
was
most
recently
chair
of
the
city's
multimodal
transportation
commission
and
I'm
still
a
member.
I
am
still
a
member
of
the
city's
greenway
committee.
N
I
was
a
member
of
something
called
the
vision,
zero
task
force,
which
is
about
reducing
traffic
deaths.
I
was
on
julie's
I-26
connect.
Us
group,
I
was
a.
I
was
on
several
land
of
sky
regional
council
boards.
I
was
treasurer
of
green
opportunities.
I
was
president
co-president
of
the
coalition
of
asheville
neighborhoods,
chair
of
battlefield
cities
project,
I'm
sure
I'm
forgetting
about
a
half
dozen
of
them,
but
I've
been
on.
I've
worked
with
many
of
you
on
many
local
community
efforts.
N
Thanks.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Okay,
folks,
we're
gonna!
Thank
you
very
much
for
for
that
rich
and
we're
gonna
move
on.
Do
we
have
critique
back?
Yes,
I'm
getting
a
yes,
we
do.
Okay,
we're
gonna.
Try
this
again
fatigue.
Can
you
hear
us?
Yes,
can
you
hear
me
yeah?
We
just
can't
see
you
okay,
but
that
works
all
right.
C
I'm
gonna
kick
things
off
and
just
ask
you
why
you
would
like.
B
To
serve
on
city
council
in
this
vacancy
position,.
D
Okay,
thank
you
for
having
me
I've
come
before
you
guys
before,
and
many
of
you
know
me
I'm
a
hotelier.
Yes,
it's
it's
probably
a
four-letter
word
right
now
in
in
our
community,
but
nonetheless
I'm
I
never
got
into
politics.
I
ran
for
city
council
2017
without
any
notion
of
political.
You
know,
democrats
or
republicans
or
anything
like
that.
N
Wanted
to
make
my
community
that
I
grew
up
in
and
my
kids
grew
up
in
and
and
currently
go
to
make
it
a
better
community
and
that
that's
with
everybody
I
mean
there's
so
much
diversity
here
in
asheville.
You
know
with
visitors
with
the
people
that
live
here,
everybody
you
know
growing
up.
I
I
love
the
community.
That
asheville
is
I.
I
love
the
fact
that
you
can
go
downtown.
N
You
can
go
on
the
outskirts,
you
can
go
in
the
county
and
I
I
personally
have
felt
that
I'm
welcome
everywhere.
I
go.
You
know
whether,
like
I
said
whether
it's
downtown
you
know,
if
I
go
to
a
brewery,
if
I
go
to
you
know
a
hole
in
the
wall
restaurant,
I
I
feel
you
know
welcomed
everywhere,
but
the
reason
I
wanted
to
join
was
to
make
sure
that
you
know
the
fiscal
spend
of
the
city
is:
is
warranted
for
all
the
members
of
the
city
of
asheville.
N
I'm
sorry
all
the
residents
of
the
city
of
asheville-
and
I
say
this
because
the
job
description
of
the
actual
city
council
is
to
mainly
determine
policy
in
the
fields
of
planning,
traffic
law
and
order.
Public
works,
finance
and
recreation,
and
you
know
I
grew
up
in
in
the
business
started
from.
Basically,
nothing
with
my
parents
grew
up
do
housekeeping.
N
We
still
do
housekeeping
today
at
our
mom
and
past
motel
and
in
that
area
I
have
learned
a
lot
of
different
types
of
things
that
we
need.
We
need
to
do
in
our
businesses
to
make
sure
that
number
one
we
stay
in
business.
We
keep
our
staff
happy,
we
make
sure
we
take
care
of
our
staff
and
and
make
sure
that
we're
responsible
and
and
fiscally
sound
in
our
operations-
and
I
want
to
bring
that
to
the
city
of
asheville,
with
my
experience.
N
Okay,
thank
you.
Let's,
let's
next
go
to
the
vice.
N
N
Okay,
my
little
bar
was
popping
up
and
down
yeah
hi
boutique.
How
are
you
good
good?
I
asked
this
question
earlier
to
mr
thomas
and
you
are
the
obvious.
E
Issue
over
the
last
several
years,
the
residents
of
asheville
have
expressed
concern
over
the
concentration
of
the
service
industry,
primarily
tourism.
In
the
city.
There
is
tension
between
residents
and
the
tourism
industry.
How
would
you
specifically
suggest
city
council
help
to
heal
or
reconcile
this
tension?
E
Well,
first,
I
think
we
need
to
bring
the
tourism
industry
professionals,
together
in
in
meeting
with
city
council,
to
figure
out
creative
ways
that
we
can
work
together.
E
K
N
Down
if
we
come
with
open
minds
and
say:
listen,
let's
do
this.
We
need
we
need
help
here.
We
we
want
you
guys
to
think
about
this
or
or
or
discuss
that,
and
we
started
that
dialogue
last
year.
I
believe-
and
you
know,
because
of
covet
because
of
things
that
have
been
put
aside,
those
talks
broke
down
the
legislative
action
that
that
we
had
or
we,
as
in
the
the
hotel
industry,
had
offered
kind
of
broke
down.
N
I'd
like
to
see
that
back
on
the
table
to
discuss
where
we
can
go
with
some
of
that
tpdf
funding-
and
I
know
talking
to
a
fellow
you
know,
hospitality
professionals
that
we
actually
want
to
work
with
the
city.
N
We
want
to
work
with
the
city
in
terms
of
because
we
are
part
of
the
community
where
the
the
amount
of
real
estate
that
the
hotels
have
as
you've
done
in
that
study
is
less
than
one
percent
downtown,
but
nonetheless
we
feel
that
we
want
to
contribute
to
this
to
the
community,
because
when
the
community
thrives,
we
thrive
when
the
community
goes
down,
we
go
down
and-
and
nobody
wants
to
see
the
community
go
down,
and
so
I
think
there
there's
so
much
opportunity
that
we
have.
N
We
just
need
to
come
to
the
table
and
talk,
and
I
believe
me
that
we're
ready,
I
know
the
council
members-
are-
are
ready,
willing
and
active
to
to
to
talk
as
well.
So
let's
get
that
dialogue
started
again.
E
Critique
I.
F
I
think
I
probably
know
your
answer
to
it,
and
but
you're
welcome
to
answer
it
if
you'd
like.
If
you
don't
want
to
answer
that
question,
I
would
just
ask
you:
this
is
serving
the
remainder
of
basically
a
two-year
term.
What
sort
of
change
you
would
like
to
see
happen
during
those
two
years?
I
mean
what
what
do
you
think
you
could
bring
to
the
table
during
those
two
years?
Okay,
well,
first
off.
N
I'm
I'm
in
favor
of
the
moratorium
because
number
one
I'm
a
hotelier
right
and,
to
be
honest,
who
wants
more
hotels
at
the
same
time
I
respect
and
I
understand-
and
I
agree
with
rich's
answer,
and
that
is
you
know
if
we
start
singling
out
individuals
to
say
you
know
it's
going
to
be
subjective,
then
you're
putting
politics
into
the
equation,
and
once
you
start
doing
that
you
know
then
it
becomes.
You
know
backdoor
deals.
N
N
As
long
as
we
maintain
consistency
across
the
board
in
terms
of
development
and
not
singling
out,
let's
say
a
restaurant
industry
or
hotel
industry
or
office
or
apartments,
then
then
we
have
illegal
sand
to
not
be
sued
as
a
city
as
to
saying
you're,
not
isolating
one
industry
versus
another,
and
somebody
can
come
along
and
and
say:
hey.
You
know
you
guys
are
targeting
this
industry
and
it's
you
know
not
fair.
N
You
know,
I
don't
know
who
that
person
is
you'd,
be
hard-pressed
to
find
somebody
in
asheville
who
loves
asheville
to
do
that,
but
you
know
somebody
may
come
from
out
of
town
and
with
deep
pockets
and
say
you
know,
you're
not
doing
it
properly.
In
terms
of
you
know
what
I
think
I
can
contribute
to
tables.
Is
you
know
I?
I
know
lots
of
hospitality
professionals
here
and
you
know
we
we,
like,
I
said,
said
to
gwen.
N
We
we
want
to
work
with
that
city
and
make
sure
things
are,
are
done
properly
systematically
and
fairly,
and
you
know
when,
when,
when
the
whole
the
the
whole.
G
Is
that
hotels
are
against?
You
know
asheville
city,
council,
city
council?
Against
actual
you
know,
I
I
don't
I
don't
buy
into
that.
I
think
we
we
as
a
community
can
thrive
together.
You
know
hospitality
is
number
three.
N
In
the
county
it
employs
about
27,
000
jobs,
and
a
lot
of
people
depend
on
that.
Is
there
room
for
improvement,
absolutely
there's
room
for
improvement
in
all
sectors,
not
just
hospitality,
but
it
all
starts
with
getting
the
data
getting
the
information
and
making
sound
decisions
to
carry
that
out.
N
Thank
you,
julie,
mayfield,
julian
thanks
for
participating
in
all
of
this.
Thank
you.
So
my
you
probably
heard
my
question
too
and
I'll
just
amend
it
a
little
bit
and
say
you
know,
in
addition
to
the
the
work
that
we
would
need
to
be
doing
around,
that
you
would
need
to
be
doing
around
equity
and
policing
and
those
sorts
of
things.
The
budget
you
mentioned
the
budget
and
now
I'll
add
in
addition
well
and
also
you've,
expressed
a
you,
know,
interest
and
desire
to
work
on
the
tourism
issues,
tda
hospitality.
B
What
else
is
compelling
to
you
to
run
for
city
council
of
the
many
things
that
we
do
and
where
else
would
you
consider
putting
your
focus?
Where
else
would
you
want
to
put
your
focus,
I'd
like
to
focus
on
things
that
affect
you
know,
majority
of
of
the
the
residents-
and
that
is
you
know
our
crumbling
water
system,
water
system.
It
really
needs
to
to
be
the
top
priority,
because
you
know
that
affects
100
of
the
people
there.
B
Okay
and
we
know-
and
I
serve
on
the
board
of
adjustments
and
we
we
came
across
something
where
you
know
there.
There
was
issue
with
old
water
lines
and,
and
you
know,
sewer
and
things
of
that
where
they
couldn't
be
moved
or
they
were
old,
they're
abandoned.
We
need
to
take
care
of
our
our
residents
first
and
if
we
don't
have
clean
water,
everything
else
is
is
secondary.
Do
we
need
to
invest
in
transit?
B
Absolutely
we
need
to
invest
in
green
energy,
and
I'm
one
of
those
that
I
love
the
the
idea
of
going.
You
know
independent
on.
J
You
know
energy,
independent
and
not
have
to
rely
on
on
the
grid
and
become
more
green.
You
know,
that's
not
something
you
hear
from.
You
know
a
hotel
owner,
but
we
do.
I.
I
love
solar
technology.
I
I
I
want
to
implement
that
anywhere.
We
can,
especially
with
the
city,
so
there
are
fiscally
responsible
things
that
we
as
a
city
can
do
to
help
better.
G
B
J
The
protests
over
this
summer,
what
is
what
are
your
thoughts
about
the
protest
and
if
you
were
on
council,
what
would
your
goal
be
as
a
result
or
during
the
process
of
the
investigation?
Okay,
so
I
believe
in
protests.
I
believe
that
everybody
has
a.
G
Right
to
protest
but
peaceful
protests.
I
also
believe
that
you
know
private
property
owners
have
the
right
to
you,
know
their
property
and
not
not
have
it
destroyed.
There
needs
to
be
a
medium
with
the
police.
J
To
say:
listen,
these
are
the
rules,
these
are
the
rules
of
engagement
and
anybody
who
breaks
that
rules.
Then
they
they
need
to
be
held
accountable,
including.
C
B
Protests,
I
think
they
should
be
held
accountable.
I
mean
that's,
that's
that's
typically
what
should
happen
to
anybody,
whether
it's
a
protest
or
if
somebody
just
goes
and
trespasses
on
somebody
else's
property?
That's
the
rule
of
law.
Now,
if
we
need
to,
we
can't
just
cherry
pick
what
rules
to
follow
when,
because
you
know
we're
sympathetic
to
certain
events
that
are
happening
because.
J
But
you
know
there
has
to
be
a
a
a
way
to
make
sure
that
everybody
meets
that
instead
of
having
you
know,
one-sided
conversation
saying
well,
this
happened
and
the
other
part
is
saying
no.
No,
that.
B
That's
happened
because
of
this.
This
you
know
and
it's
a
blame
game.
Let's
not
play
the
blame
game
when
we
can
say:
okay,
these
are
the
rules.
Please
follow
them
and
I
think
you
know
city
council
has
done
that.
They've
come
out
and
say:
hey
here's,
your
here's,
your
timeline,
I
mean
here's,
your
you
know,
curfew,
please
make
sure
you
adhere
to
it
and
for
for
the
most
part,
people
did,
but
there
are
some
that
that
didn't-
and
you
know.
L
I
I
don't
know
what
the
the
the
ideal
situation
is,
but
we
want
everybody
to
feel
safe,
including
the
post
protesters,
to
be
able
to
protest
peacefully.
Thank
you.
L
Afternoon,
fatigue,
hey
keith,
just
want
to
give
you
an
opportunity
opportunity
to
add
anything
that
you
feel
we
need
to
know
or
anything
that
you
want
to
add
to
make
your
make
your
calls
for
joining
us
on
council.
L
You
know
I
just
I
I
don't
know
what
else
to
say,
except
you
know,
I'd
be
I'd,
be
willing
to.
You
know,
put
in
the
the
time
that
that
you
guys,
you
know,
have
put
in
and
sacrificed
for
the
city
for
the
folks.
You
know
that
rely
on
you
look
up
to
you
as
leaders.
I,
at
the
end
of
the
day
it's
about
the
community
and
I'm
sure
you'll
pick
the
the
the
right
right
person
to
fill
its
seat.
L
You
know
from
from
the
the
the
potential
candidates
that
we've
got.
I
think
we
I've
heard
great
answers
from
everybody.
You
know
it's
gonna,
be
a
tough
decision
for
you
guys
to
make.
I,
the
only
thing
I
bring
to
the
table
is
the
fact
that
you
know
I
can
help
with
you
know,
helping
effectively
manage
the
city's
finances
as
a
business
owner,
and
if
that
that
helps
it,
you
know
in
any
way,
I'd
be
glad
to
serve.
L
If
not,
you
know,
I'd
be
happy
to
help
in
any
other
capacity.
You
guys
want
me.
L
No
okay,
okay,
we're!
We
we've
got
a
little
bit
of
a
little
bit
of
time.
I'm
staff!
Do
you.
Let
me
just
say
thank
you,
pratik,
for
for
being
willing
to
serve
and
to
and
going
through
this
interview
process
and
sorry
about
the
technology
issues
we
just
to
remind
everyone.
We
are
voting
tonight
on
this
council
vacancy
appointment.
It
will
be
the
first
thing
we
do
at
our
five
o'clock
council
meeting
in
here
shortly.
L
So
thank
you
very
much.
So
we'll
move
on.
G
C
L
L
L
There
was
a
feedback
loop,
okay,
I
thought
you
took
care
of
that.
That
was
good.
Okay,
can
you
just
know
if
it's
okay?
If
it
works,
I
don't
know
sandra.
Do
you
if
you
are
have
the
feed
up
on
any
other
device,
make
sure
it's
muted?
You
want
to
try
again
and
see
if
the
sound
is
working,
you're,
muted,
right
now,
can
you
unmute
you're
muted
right
now?
Can
you
I'm
a
mute
now
you're
muted
right
now?
Can
you
I'm
unusual
right.
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
Okay,
there
we
go
okay,
it
was
me
guys,
okay,
all
right,
great
how's,
everybody
doing
good
good
good.
Thank
you.
F
Okay,
well
we're
I'll
kick
things
off,
let's
see,
but.
F
Of
housekeeping
here
first,
should
we
go
in
reverse
order,
this
time,
we'll
start
with
keith
after
me?
Okay!
F
L
I
basically
I
tell
people
what
I
was
growing
up
here.
I
felt
things
were:
let's
see
what
can
I
say
it
was
a
lot
more
open,
a
lot
more
united,
a
lot
more
freedom
as
far
as
I
was
concerned,
but
I'm
running
for
council
because
I
want
to
make
lives
in
asheville
better.
I
I
was
raised
here
in
asheville
and
I
was
raised
in
a
700
square
foot
house
with
my
mom
and
dad
and
five
other
siblings
and-
and
I
grew
up
when
I
grew
up.
L
L
I
would
like
to
do
what
I
can
to
help
make
people's
lives
better
and
I
don't
have
any
kind
of
political
philosophies
other
than
trying
to
make
people's
lives
better,
and
when
I
moved
back
home
in
2012,
I
had
friends
and
family
come
to
me
and
say
sandra,
you
know:
why
are
you
doing
real
estate?
You
know
you
won't
be
able
to
make
it
here.
L
No
one
ever
makes
it
here,
but
I
pushed
ahead
and
I
said
I
wanted
to
do
it
because
I
wanted
I
saw
so
many
people
are
losing
their
homes
and
I
wanted
to
help
and
that's
what
I
did
I
set
out
and
helped
many
people
save
their
homes
and
foreclosure.
I
helped
many
people
buy
homes
that
never
thought
they
would
be
able
to,
and
that's
always
been
me.
I
see
a
need
and
I
try
to
help
and
that's
the
reason
I'm
running
for
city
council.
E
Well,
I
see
a
lot
of
issues
around
the
city
that
I
feel
that
I
could
be
effective
in
and
one
of
those
is
affordable
housing.
That
is
the
issue
that
everybody
seems
to
talk
about,
but
some,
I
think
that
what
I
have
noticed
here
in
asheville
is
the
price
point
for
affordable
housing.
Most
of
the
people
that
come
to
me.
They
basically
can
afford
a
payment
between
750
and
850.,
and
so
750
and
850
translates
into
a
property
of
about
120
to
130
000..
L
See
a
zoning
regulations
basically
updated
to
more
more
or
less
accommodate
a
more
dense.
E
Population
of
housing,
so
we
can
actually
start
building
condos
or
town
homes
that
basically
basically
can
work
to
accommodate
this
shortage
of
housing.
And
the
thing
is
basically
people
keep
saying
it
can't
be
done
at
price
range,
but
I
think
it
can
if
we
can
actually
identify
city
owned
property
and
then
we
can
encourage
builders
to
build
these
type
properties
and
basically,
what
happens
with
this?
This
would
be
like
a.
I
tell
people,
it's
a
step
between,
because
what
we
have
here.
We've
got
a
large
percentage
of
the
low
income
in
housing.
L
Okay,
then
you
have
that
price
point
250
or
whatever
for
a
house.
Well
guess
what
the
price
point
between
housing
and
that
price.
This
is
the
underserved
community.
This
is
what
we
need
to
concentrate
on
and
if
we
can
identify
city
on
property
to
maybe
take
on
land
leases,
100-year
200-year
land
leaks
as
well.
L
If
you
do
the
condo
a
condo,
townhome
situation,
you
have
town
home
associations
and
homeowners
associations
that
basically
will
be
able
to
keep
the
pro
upkeep.
You
know
to
do
the
upkeep
for
the
property
and
also
it
teaches
those
home
owners,
basically
responsibility
as
they
build
on
to
that
next
level,
and
that's
what
I
see
is
the
big
gap
in
home
ownership
here
in
asheville.
L
Hi
miss
kilgore.
How
are
you
fine
we're
good?
Oh,
this
summer
we
experienced
a
lot
of
civil
unrest,
and
this
is
probably
the
largest
civil
rights
movement
that
we're
seeing
in
this
time,
but
compared
to
the
civil
rights
movements
of
times
past
the
expression
and
the
passion
that
our
young
people
have
is
a
lot
different
and
sometimes
shunned
and
a
lot
of
times
appreciated
because
they
are
expressing
themselves.
What
would
you
say
to
young
protesters
today?
L
I
would
say
to
young
protesters
today
that
I
am
grateful
and
thankful
for
the
movement
that
they're
participating
in.
I
am
so
grateful
because
what
they've
been
able
to
do
is
they've
been
able
to
mess
a
large
mass
of
the
whole.
You
know
country
and
bring
them
together
with
and
with
a
diverse
population,
and-
and
the
thing
is
what
I
really
like
about
them
is
like.
I
said
they
don't
give
up,
they're
relentless,
and
I
I
definitely
applaud
them
for
that.
D
And
they
have
the
energy,
I
remember,
even
when
I
was
at
unca
and
things
like
that,
I
was
part
of
protest.
I
was
part
of
the
asheville
hype
when
we
integrated.
I
was
on
the
campus
there
when
the
police
came
in
and
we
all
so.
I
remember
all
these
things
happening,
and
so
it
brings
back
a
lot
of
memories.
The
one
thing
I
can
say
to
the
young
people
is
listen
to
your
elders,
go
back
and
look
at
history,
because
this
is
something
we
this
didn't
just
happen
overnight.
D
L
Go
to
your
elders,
talk
to
them,
learn
from
their
mistakes
and
make
sure
that
what
we
do
going
forward
is
something
that
is
going
to
be
sustainable
and
it's
going
to
provide
the
outcome
that
we
all
would
like,
because
the
worst
thing
you
could
do
is
push
so
hard
that
you
get
resistance
where,
if
the
resistance
and
pushing,
then
you
get
nowhere
and
so
the
one
thing
I
said,
I
think
we
really
need
to
sit
down
and
start
talking
with
the
younger
protesters
and
say:
okay.
C
So
that's
what
I
would
say:
listen
to
past
your
past
elders
and
you
know,
work
with
them
on
this.
Thank
you
sandra
hi.
It's
julie,
mayfield,
good,
to
see
you
so
we
you
know
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
because
of
the
events
that
shaniqua
just
mentioned
in
our
in
our
community.
Right
now,
around
policing
and
racial
divide,
racial
division,
racial
equity,
the
budget
that
sort
of
thing
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
your
vision
for
how
those
conversations
might
resolve
so
essentially
sort.
L
Of
what
is
your
vision
around
policing
in
our
community
and
around
how
that
intersects
with
our
budget
and
how
how
policing
can
help
ideally
address
some
of
our
racial
equity
issues?
L
Okay,
when
you
say
how
can
policing
help?
Are
you
talking
about
I'm
sort
of
confused
when
you
say,
let
me
rephrase
it
so
what
I
guess,
let
me
go
back
to
just
the
first
part
of
that
question,
which
is
really
what
is
your
vision
for
for
the
police
in
our
community,
going
forward
the
role
that
they
play?
How
that
you
know
how
that
intersects
with
our
budget?
L
J
B
To
a
lot
of
the
information
that
you
may
have
concerning
these
issues,
so
maybe
my
answers
will
not
sort
of
you
know
coincide
with
you
what
you
have
come
up
with,
but
I
basically
think
there
needs
to
be
more
research
done.
I
think
this
is
a
very
delicate
situation
and.
L
I
think
that
what
we
need
to
do
is
look
at
the
police
department
and
say
what
are
they
doing?
That
can
actually
be
moved
over
to
another
professional
as
far
as
handling
like
say,
for
instance,
we
can
take
out
some
of
the
duties
that
are
not
really
police
responsibilities.
L
As
far
as
mental
health,
I
would.
I
would
like
to
see
a
mental
health
task
force.
You
know
where
funds
may
be
or
allocate
taken
from
the
police
funding
and
maybe
allocated
toward
health
care.
I
mean
mental
health
care
and,
and
I'd
like
to
see
that
done
also
as
far
as
dealing
with
the
the
homeless,
because
those
things
to
me.
C
And
divide
it
up
and
have
some
of
the
money
going
to
things
that
actually
can
benefit
the
community
say,
for
instance,
even
drug
professional
someone
that
can
actually
deal
with
handling
the
drug
because
the
drug
issue,
here's
a
big
thing
and
the
police
they
go
out
all
the
time
on
drug
calls.
But
yet
still
they
really
do
are
not.
You
know
really
geared
up
to
deal
with
the
drugs.
Then
those
are
separate
divisions.
I
think
that
we
need
to
actually
set
up
first
and
figure
out
how
how
how
many,
how.
L
Much
of
crime
goes
to
drugs.
How
much
crime
is
for
mental
health,
how
much
you
know
and
that
and
sort
of
come
up
with
plan
a
strategic
plan
as
far
as
dividing
the
funding
for
the
police
department
and
that
way,
maybe
you
may
find
out
that
guess
what
they
don't
need.
L
L
It
will
recommend
removing
council
from
the
review
process
establishing
a
point
system
for
hotel
developers
to
meet
in
order
to
receive
approval,
with
all
the
debates
still
going
on
as
to
whether
or
not
we
should
resume
building
new
hotels
at
all
and
with
rule
changes
that
will
most
certainly
result
in
the
immediate
return
of
hotel
development.
Do
you
think
that
removing
council
review
of
hotels
at
this
point
in
time
would
be
the
right
decision.
L
I
think
we
really
should
consider
that
and
one
reason
why
is
because,
if
you've
got
a
point
system-
and
you
have
rules
and
regulations
that
are
set
up,
then
I
think
it's
a
more
equal
system
and
then
you
know
council
won't
be
held
responsible
by
the
community
of
this.
You
know
the
community
of
basically
what
is
it
called
howtowin
to
the
hotels
and
you
know
which
basically
you'll
that
has
caused
a
lot
of
dissension
between
council
and
the
community.
L
L
Thank
you,
hi
sandra
it's
gwen
hi.
So
I
asked
this
question
earlier
to
another
candidate.
How
many
hours
a
week
do
you
expect
to
spend
on
city
council
business,
including
meetings
of
council
meetings
with
constituents
meetings
as
liaisons
to
commissions,
meetings
of
council
committee
reading
and
responding
to
emails
and
tax?
How?
How
did
you
come
up
with
that
estimate
and
how
will
that
time,
commitment
fit
into
your
current
commitment.
L
Well-
and
this
is
a
week
right,
I
would
say
I
would
say
easily
when
25
hours
a
week.
I
could
see
that
I
would
need
to
be
able
to
take
care
of
those
responsibilities
and
basically
a
lot
of
that
time
will
be
out
basically
meeting
people.
L
B
B
Okay,
we
have
just
a
little
bit
of
time
left.
If
there's
not
anyone
else
who
has
a
question,
I
would
ask
sandra
and
ask
us
of
rich
as
well.
Could
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
committees
or
committee
that
you've
served
on
already
for
the
city,
your
experience
there?
Okay,
but
presently
I
am
on
planning
and
zoning
which
I've
really
enjoyed
and
learned
a
lot.
B
I
also
have
served
on
the
political
action
committee
for
the
board
of
realtors,
I'm
actually
a
member
of
the
south
side
advisory
board
for
the
arthur
eddington
center.
B
I
have
I'm
also
on
the
asheville
board
of
realtors.
What
is
it
marketing
committee?
I
think
it
is
yeah
marketing
committee
and,
let's
see
what
else
and
that's
pretty
much
it
right
now.
B
Does
anyone
else
have
any
other
questions?
Okay,
I'll,
ask
a
question
so
sandra
I've
asked
this
question
to
a
couple
of
the
other
candidates.
Also
over
the
past
last
several
years,
the
residents
of
asheville
has
have
expressed
concern
over
the
concentration
of
the
service
industry,
primarily
tourism
in
the
city,
there's
a
tension
between
the
residents
and
the
tourism
industry.
How
would
you
suggest
that
city
council
help
to
heal
or
reconcile
this
tension?
B
Okay.
First
of
all,
there
are
many
issues
that
the
people
in
the
community
are
upset
about
about,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
the
people
that
are
upset
about
the
hotel
industry
are
those
that
are
used
to
having
the
enjoying
the
short-term
rentals
and
that
type
of
thing
airbnb,
and
you
know,
and
those
I
think,
from
what
I've
been
hearing
and
what
comes
before
us
in
zoning.
B
B
As
far
as
you
know,
and
the
hotels
here,
if
I
remember
correctly,
are
in
the
overall
profit
from
rooms
or
something
like,
I
think
in
the
80
80
something
percent-
I
don't
have
those
numbers
directly,
but
basically
I
think
the
average
is
more
like
if
they
can
consider
67
to
68
occupancy
is
good,
so
I
think
that
maybe
we
need
to
actually
revisit
some
of
our
rules
and
regulations
as
how
we
work
with
the
community
as
far
as
short-term
rentals
and
things
like
that
and
and
because
that
is
what
I
really
see
a
lot
of
people
are
really
concerned
with
and
and
the
whole
thing
about
that
is
at
least
if
we're
able
to
modify
and
maybe
accommodate,
be
a
more
more
relaxed
a
code,
then
maybe,
for
instance,
we
will
be
able
to
get
more
people,
let's
see
on
board,
with
a
lot
of
decisions
we
make.
B
I
think
that
the
especially
in
light
of,
what's
going
on
now
in
the
community,
the
community
is
going
to
be
suffering
financially.
It's
gonna.
We
have
an
economic
setback,
that's
people!
I
feel
it's
not
really
looking
at
the
future.
I
think
that
we
really
need
to
do
what
we
can
to
help
the
people
in
the
community
be
able
to
be
get
back
on
their
feet,
and
I
think
that
would
be
one
thing
that
we
could
actually
work
on.
B
I
know
that's
not
a
very
good
point
of
view,
but
basically
the
one
thing
about
large
hotels
is
this
large
hotels
owned
by
big
corporations,
the
money
they
make.
They
take
it
out
of
nashville
if
you,
if
you've
got
more
people
here,
locally
being
able
to
make
money
or
whatever
that
money
is
spent
on
the
local
economy
that
will
stimulate
our
economy
also.
So
I
think
we
just
need
to
maybe
revisit
that
aspect
of
it.
That
would
be
one
thing
and
the
other
thing.
B
Of
course,
people
are
concerned
about
the
traffic
and
that
and
the
that
we
have
and
maybe
we're
working
on
different
things
as
far
as
streetscapes
and
different
things
to
make
it
more
easier
for
people
to
get
around
and
you
know
to,
but
I
think
that's
probably
one
of
the
issues
too,
but
I
think
the
more
or
less
that
short-term
rental
situation
and
airbnb's
okay,
would
you
say
that
that's
what
most
people
are
upset
about?
B
I'm
not
hearing
as
much
about
airbnbs
right
now,
I'm
hearing
more
about
big
hotels,
but
but
I
could
be
just
talking
to
different
people.
Well.
Well,
the
only
reason
I
say
that
is
because
the
reason
a
lot
of
people
are
against
the
short.
This
is
what
I'm
getting
against.
The
hotels
is
because
they
feel
that
they're
not
able
to
make
money
and
you're
allowing
the
hotels
to
and
that's
causing
the
contention
does
that
make
sense?
B
Okay,
folks,
we
we
have
run
to
the
end
of
the
clock
here,
so
I
would
like
to
thank
you
sandra
for
your
willingness
to
serve
and,
of
course,
you're
running
for
council
right
now,
apparently
so
so
thank
you
for
that
all
right
folks
we're
going
to
close
out
this
meeting
and
then
we
will
reconvene
in
about
30
minutes
for
the
city
council
meeting
where
we
will
vote
on
the
selection
of
the
city
council
vacancy
appointment.
So
all
right,
we'll
see
you
back
in
about
30
minutes.