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Formal Meeting 4-9-13
A
C
A
D
You
mayor
heavenly
creator
acknowledging
we
are
imperfect
vessels
of
your
divine
inspiration.
Please
grant
us
the
wisdom
to
serve
the
people
of
Asheville
with
caring
hearts
and
open
minds.
Please
extend
your
grace
on
our
efforts
at
self-governance
and
help
us
make
decisions
that
represent
the
public
interest
and
that
move
our
community
forward
and
practical
and
sustainable
ways.
We
seek
your
guidance
and
listening
to
the
public
to
help
us
distill
essential
messages
to
help
us
create
policy
that
serves
the
greater
community.
D
Please
give
our
community
as
a
whole,
the
wisdom
to
protect
and
the
strength
to
defend
those
who
would
seek
to
undermine
and
contract
core
democratic
values.
We
thank
you
for
all
that
you
have
provided
to
us
then
pledge
that
today,
in
this
room,
we
shall
seek
to
follow
the
path
of
truth
and
honor
Thank
you
Thank
You.
A
Counsel,
we
have
several
things
under
proclamations
and
before
we
go
into
them.
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
a
couple
of
things
on
our
agenda
that
have
changed.
Since
we
publish
the
agenda,
the
business
improvement
district
will
be
delayed
and
the
living
wage
issue
will
be
delayed
as
well
and
so
will
address
those
issues
on
the
consent
agenda.
A
Do
we
need
a
motion
as
part
of
that?
No
no
motion,
okay,
so
those
items
if
you
are
here
to
speak
on
those
issues,
they
have
been
delayed
and
we
will
not
discuss
those
issues
to
line.
Another
thing
was
added
to
our
consent
agenda
item.
2
is
a
resolution
to
authorize
the
mere
to
accept
the
grant
award
offer
from
the
US
economic
development
administration
for
the
Craven
streets,
improvement
project
in
the
amount
of
1
million
120
2401
dollars,
and
so
that's
a
resolution
on
the
consent
agenda
and
that's
different
from
what
was
published
on
Friday.
A
We
have
some
good
news,
we'd
like
to
recognize
a
couple
of
people,
or
it's
more
than
a
couple,
quite
a
few
people
for
the
great
work
that
helped
make
the
Southern
Conference
happen
and
so
I'm
going
to
call
some
people
up
and
we
want
you
to
come
forward.
So
I
community
can't
recognize
you
for
another
successful
event.
I
think
I
need
to
start
off
with
our
own
councilman.
Jamm,
Davis
and
I
know
he'll
speak
to
this
issue
in
just
a
minute,
but
we
appreciate
all
that
he
has
done,
but
I
do
good
on
it.
A
Don't
follow
directions,
man,
Nexus,
being
Van
Camp
agent,
vassallo,
Allison,
Moore,
austan,
tyler,
Bruce,
Peterson,
Carol
Peterson
Chris
Korell
Dan
Dober
Dan
honk
Desiree
of
my
stroll
Diana
Jackson
Pierce
doh
doh,
doh
d,
Stevens
Greg,
dove
Janet,
cone,
Janet,
Lampkin,
Tim,
Lampkin,
jeff,
richardson,
John,
Pierce,
John,
Creighton,
John,
Yarborough,
okay,
ray
Bailey,
Lauren,
Cooper,
McDevitt,
lubis,
it
Lynn,
glacier
and
I
probably
mess
it
up
when
I'm
sorry,
Mary,
Helen,
literally
Mike
Burke,
Ron,
stored,
Oh,
Sam
powers,
jonathan
bailey
and
night
see
Nancy
right.
Ok,
how
many
names
of
that
messed
up?
A
Every
little
logistical
thing
to
make
sure
the
Southern
Conference
went
off
without
a
hitch.
These
individuals
were
meeting
on
a
regular
basis
to
make
sure
that
happened.
Additionally,
speaking
with
the
director
of
the
socon
he's
already
said,
you
know
we're
ready
to
talk
about
future
years
in
Asheville.
We
know
Ashley
will
do
a
good
job
of
putting
another
bid
in
and
it's
because
of
this
team,
and
so
I
want
to
sustain
I'm
recognize
this
team,
because
we
had
unprecedented
weekend.
A
F
Thank
You
mayor
I
really
do
on
behalf
of
the
Local
Organising
Committee
want
to
thank
the
city
of
Asheville
and
all
of
citizens.
It
it's
been
a
great
time.
The
second
year
of
the
socon
I
think
was
even
better
than
the
first
and
if
you
were
downtown
on
Saturday
morning,
he
watched
three
hundred
kids,
dribbling
basketball
from
pack
square
to
the
citizen
and
a
couple
of
adults
who
knew
there
was
one
very
prominent
adult
than
that
it
was.
F
It
was
just
an
amazing
occasion,
and
the
the
enthusiasm
by
the
whole
community
was
was
terrific
and
I.
Think
next
year
will
even
be
better
because
that's
when
we're
going
to
be
starting
to
work
toward
getting
an
extension
with
those
folks
and-
and
this
is
a
great
economic
development
tool
it-
it
makes
a
community
happy
watching
and
being
part
of
march
madness,
and
it
gives
you
a
whole
new
perspective
of
college
student
athletes
and
gives
the
community
of
you
we're
very
fortunate
to
have
a
Sports
Commission
here
and
Ben.
F
Vancamp
he's
been
just
stellar,
and
this
is
his
life.
Putting
these
kind
of
events
on
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
other
ones
coming
up,
Janet
Cowan
athletic
director
of
University
of
North
Carolina
at
Asheville
was
instrumental
in
putting
that
together.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
people
at
that
table
and
it's
it's
invigorated.
A
whole
community
in
got
a
tremendous
amount
of
enthusiasm
for
college
athletics
in
this
area.
F
C
Let
me
speak.
Thank
you
so
much
I
want
to
particularly
thank
because
seems
like
yesterday,
but
now
it's
been
a
couple
years
ago
that
we
came
to
the
city
council
to
the
mayor
and
said
we
got
a
dream
about
a
little
sports
commission
and
I
and
you're,
seeing
that
sports
commission
in
action.
So
I
want
to
personally
thank
you
for
supporting
it.
Jan's
right,
we've
got
a
great
leader
of
Ben
VanCamp,
not
just
about
the
Southern
Conference,
but
many
other
events
that
are
coming
to
Asheville.
C
B
B
A
G
G
Your
permission
we'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
proceed
if
that's
okay,
that'll
be
fine
and
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
and
recognize
mr.
David
Bailey
who's
here
this
evening,
as
president
CEO
of
United
Way
David
could
come
forward
and
I
think
he's
got
a
special
presentation
to
make
to
the
city
of
Asheville
this
evening.
Wear
this
year's
united
way
campaign
and
david.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
here,
but.
G
Arabella
me
may
I,
may
I
read
the
names
in
addition
to
mr.
Burnett
scott
burnett.
Our
city's
campaigns
here
this
year
for
the
city
of
Asheville
I
would
love
for
additional
city
staff
who
have
been
able
to
come
over
this
afternoon.
I'll
read
your
names
and,
if
you're
here,
could
you
please
come
up
front
to
join
the
team,
lieutenant
Mike
Elton,
Janet,
Lampkin,
brad,
stine,
David,
Carr,
Pam,
Kelly,
Jessica,
Bernstein,
Alina
law,
Laura,
Morgan,
Ron,
Kearns,
Christy
bass
and
Scott
barnwell
mayor?
G
H
Thank
you.
What
a
great
team
we
here
to
really
our
message
is
simple
to
say
thank
you
to
the
employees
of
the
city.
Asheville
was
just
an
outstanding
United,
Way
and
pain.
Last
fall.
It
was
so
outstanding,
in
fact,
that
we
nominated
to
the
city
of
Asheville
for
an
award.
That's
given
out
among
competition
among
United
Way's
across
the
whole
state.
H
The
city
did
such
a
great
job
that
we
put
them
up
against
other
campaigns
across
the
state
and
in
February
of
this
year,
chief
Burnett
came
to
the
united
way
of
north
carolina
annual
meeting
and
was
given
on
behalf
of
the
city,
the
spirit
of
north
carolina
excellence
award
for
campaign
excellence.
So
congratulations
to
the
c
ashwin
employed
such
a
great
job,
and
it's
really
recognition
of
two
things.
One
is
the
numbers
we
all
know
about
numbers,
but
equally,
in
fact,
more
important
was
how
you
did
the
campaign.
H
Let
me
give
you
a
couple
examples:
one
is
they
resurrected
a
chili
cook-off,
led
by
cheaper
net
and
and
chief
Anderson,
to
sort
of
build
that
team
spirit
and
I
think
you
actually
had
participation
from
other
public
officials
in
the
in
the
community
and
it
built
camaraderie
some
culinary
arts
and
also
create
a
little
bit
of
heartburn
because
of
all
the
all
the
offerings
part
of
that
another
part
that
was
turn
out
for
your
team
spirit.
Wear
your
colors,
your
favorite
colors,
and
that
was
a
great
event.
H
H
This
can
just
terribly
upset
about
having
to
wear
carolina
blue
instead
of
a
book
back
red
and
in
fact
we
were
so
moved
at
united
way
for
his
sacrifice
that
at
our
annual
meeting
in
February
that
we
gave
pinned
I'll
do
anything
for
United
Way
award
because
of
his
great
sacrifice.
So
that's
just
a
couple
examples
about
how
you
engage
folks.
H
Also,
you
did
speakers
and
tourists
and
really
got
folks
involved
with
with
United
Way,
and
that
was
great
and
food
was
also
evident
at
the
San
powers
did
something
that
sell
your
center
for
us,
pancake
cookout,
cook,
pancake
breakfast
and
some
other
thing
was
really
was
just
a
great
event
and
the
volunteers
did
a
great
job
and
in
fact
your
volunteers
do
a
great
job.
All
the
time
we
partnered
on
day
Karen
this
year
again
with
the
project
connect
outreach
the
homeless,
how
we
launched
our
day
carrying
this
year.
H
We
also
partner
with
the
city
on
various
sites
around
the
community
and
involved
other
businesses
on
that.
So
we
really
did
a
nice
job.
So
thank
you
on
behalf
of
the
United
Way
of
asheville,
buncombe,
county,
our
board
and,
most
importantly,
the
70,000
people
whose
lives
are
changed
because
of
this
great
partnership.
So
last
thing
I'll
do
is
be,
and
in
chief
brunette
understands
us,
there's
actually
an
award
someplace.
I
don't
know
where
that
were
at
that
actually
award.
H
I
Thank
You
mayor
Thank,
You
counsel,
a
very
proud
of
City
Vashem
employees,
I
think
that
this
recognition
from
the
United
Way
and
the
success
of
the
campaign
speaks
volumes
about
our
city
employees
and
really
shows
that
public
service
for
city
of
Asheville
employees
truly
is
more
than
a
job.
It
truly
as
a
way
of
life.
Partnership
with
United
Way
in
our
city,
employees
every
single
day
during
the
workday
providing
service
to
our
community
and
then
going
above
and
beyond
that
partner
with
United
Way,
so
that
so
much
more
can
be
done
for
our
community.
I
A
We
have
some
other
great
news
happening
within
our
community
and
I'm,
going
to
recognize
some
events
happening
or
a
month
we're
going
to
wreck
it
out
some
months
and
I
wanted
to
do
the
L
3ds
personally,
because
this
is
the
last
time
I
get
to
do
them
as
mayor
and
I've
had
an
opportunity
of
doing
this
for
many
years,
especially
with
bill
McGuire.
So
it's
very
heartfelt
for
me
so
I
like
to
call
bill
up
and
we're
going
to
recognize
april
2013
as
child
abuse
awareness
month.
A
J
A
Now.
Therefore,
I
Terry
Bellamy
mayor
the
city
of
Asheville
do
hereby
proclaim
april
as
child
abuse
prevention
month
in
the
city
of
asheville,
and
call
upon
every
citizen
to
recognize
the
important
work
of
the
child
protection
team
of
buncombe,
county
and
child
abuse
prevention
services
and
to
work
diligently
to
prevent
child
abuse
and
neglect.
It
has
the
city
seal
and
my
signature,
making
it
official
Thank.
J
J
We've
we're
really
excited
this
April
we're
kicking
off
a
new
program,
stewards
of
children.
This
is
a
child,
sexual
abuse,
prevention,
training
for
adults
program
and
the
first
folks
we're
going
to
do
it
with
all
the
Asheville
City
Schools,
counselors
and
social
workers,
and
also
the
Buncombe
County
Schools,
counselors
and
social
workers.
So
we're
really
excited
about
that.
Few
things
happening
a
fry.
This
friday
night
is
Blue.
Ribbon
night
at
the
tourists
will
be
handing
out
blue
ribbons
of
the
gate
and
going
out
on
the
field
before
the
game.
J
J
A
mom
Joanne
Shelton
still
lives
here,
and
it's
a
documentary
film
where
she
took
off
across
the
country
in
an
RV
for
a
year,
and
the
idea
at
first
was
just
a
search
for
other
Angela
Shelton's
by
name
which
he
was
amazed
to
find
out
that
so
many
of
them
had
also
experienced
childhood
sexual
abuse
as
had
she,
so
it
shifted
gears.
She
then,
as
part
of
the
journey
confronted
her
father,
who
had
been
hugged
user
and
it
ends
on
a
high
note
kind
of
a
triumph
over
her
childhood
sexual
abuse.
J
A
E
A
Proclamation
reads:
April
is
Autism
Awareness
Month,
when
the
public
is
encouraged
to
learn
more
about
autism
and
the
resources
available
to
help
individuals
and
families
affected
by
the
disorder.
Whereas
autism
spectrum
disorder
is
a
lifelong
developmental
disability.
That
typically
appears
during
the
first
three
years
of
life.
A
Productive
members
of
society,
whereas
necessary
services
for
children
include
early
intervention,
educational
options
and
speech
and
behavioral
therapies
and
necessary
services
for
adults
with
autism
include
vocational
assistance,
social
skills
and
training
and
housing.
Now
therefore,
I
Terry
Bellamy
mayor
the
city
of
Asheville,
do
hereby
proclaim
april
Tuesday
2013
as
autism
awareness
month
in
the
city
of
Asheville,
encourage
all
citizens
to
learn
more
about
autism
and
what
they
can
do
to
advocate
for
individuals
on
the
autism
spectrum
and
to
support
their
families.
K
The
Autism
Society
of
North
Carolina,
provides
supports
and
promotes
opportunities
which
enhance
the
lives
of
individuals
on
the
autism
spectrum
and
their
family.
The
numbers
are
staggering,
and
or
even
more
staggering
for
North
Carolina
school's.
Most
recent
number
from
North
Carolina
schools
is
one
in
50
for
kids
that
are
of
school
age
have
are
diagnosed
on
the
autism
spectrum.
K
We
provide
advocacy
residential
services,
we
provide
education,
training
for
families
and
also
for
the
community
for
local
fire
departments,
police
departments
on
how
to
work
with
children
and
adults.
On
the
autism
spectrum,
we
have
a
supported
employment
program
which
provides
training,
so
folks
could
get
work
and
we
have
a
license
after
school
program
on
site.
We
also
provide
101
supports
within
the
community
nurse
Erin
Hamlin
crisis
fun,
which
assists
families
through
tough
times
coming
up.
K
One
of
the
biggest
events
that
we
have
coming
up
is
our
zipping
for
autism,
which
is
done
behind
with
the
zipline
course
behind
the
crown
plaza
in
the
city
of
Asheville
last
year
is
over
40,000
force,
and
that
goes
to
help
support
our
most
income.
Families
for
our
sliding
fee
scale,
respite
scholarship
program
and
our
ceramic
crisis
fund,
and
that
is
on
jun,
2nd
sunday
june
second,
so
go
to
zipping
for
autism
com
get
yourself
a
team
going
come
out
and
help
support
us
and
have
some
fun.
Thank.
A
Now,
therefore,
I
Terry
Bellamy,
mayor
of
the
city
of
Asheville,
do
hereby
proclaim
april
21st
through
27
2013,
as
Volunteer
Week
in
Asheville,
and
urged
citizens
to
volunteer
in
their
respective
communities
by
volunteering
and
by
recognizing
those
who
serve.
We
can
replace
disconnection
and
with
understanding
and
compassion
it
has
a
city
seal
in
my
signature,
making
it
official.
Thank
you.
L
L
Yeah
sure
well,
thank
you,
mayor
Bell
me
thank
you
city,
council,
on
behalf
of
hands
on
and
you're,
not
away
so
I.
Thank
you
so
much
for
recognizing
the
spirit
of
volunteerism
here
in
our
community
and
just
yeah.
Just
recognizing
the
amazing
work
that
volunteers
do
every
day
and
that's
what
our
goal
is
for
National
Volunteer
Week,
the
21st,
the
27th
is
to
just
recognize
the
thing
volunteers
will
be
having
our
own
volunteer
appreciation
event
for
the
volunteer
leaders
that
we
work
with,
and
so
I
just
want
to
really.
L
L
A
D
A
N
Before
we
move
on
mm-hmm
mayor
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
one
of
the
one
of
the
pieces
in
the
consent
agenda
is
this
budget
amendment
the
amount
of
839
thousand
dollars
from
the
Tourism
Development
Authority
and
US
cellular
sponsorship.
Revenue
for
renovations
at
the
US
cellular
center
just
want
to
express
gratitude
for
everyone
who
helped
to
make
that
happen
and
who
understands
that
the
vision
for
the
for
the
civic
center
is
is
a
very
forward-looking
one
and
and
that
building
is
piece
by
piece
being
transformed
into
a
venue
for
the
present
and
the
future.
N
A
O
Good
evening,
mayor,
Bellamy,
City,
Council
and
city
staff,
as
well
as
everybody
present
in
the
room,
I'm
you'll,
have
to
excuse
me.
This
is
my
first
time
using
a
power
point
here.
Okay,
so
it
might
be
a
little
also,
I'm
probably
going
to
speak
really
fast,
because
I've
got
a
lot
to
share.
There's
a
lot
going
on
good
stuff,
I'm,
not
going
to
speak
I'm
going
to
let
you
read
this
and
then
I'm
going
to
talk
about
other
things.
I
hope
that
works
for
everybody.
O
Asheville
is
a
small
town.
The
beauty
of
a
small
town
is
that
we
all
know
each
other.
You
probably
know
somebody
on
this
list.
I
would
like
to
take
a
moment
to
thank
Peter
Sprague
who's
with
me
in
the
audience.
One
of
our
other
commissioner
he's
an
appointee
of
from
River
Lincoln.
We
appreciate
him
being
here
with
us
tonight.
O
Again,
you
can
see
it's
quite
small
and
nobody's
going
to
be
able
to
read
it
so
gives
you
an
opportunity,
people
at
home
and
everybody
in
the
audience
to
be
able
to
see
that
the
biggest
news
to
hit
our
riverfront,
of
course,
is
new
belgium
brewery
coming
to
the
to
the
french
banks
of
the
french
broad
river.
Everybody,
including
the
government,
got
involved
in
that
one.
O
O
In
addition,
in
light
of
the
current
rash
of
fires
in
Asheville
for
in
the
last
10
days
on
our
riverfront
new
belgium,
brewery
has
set
the
bar
fairly
high
in
their
comprehensive
and
immediate
response
to
these
unforeseen
events
by
physically
securing
their
property,
as
well
as
providing
around-the-clock
surveillance
on
their
site.
We
wish
all
our
properties
were
this.
Conscientious,
the
aarc
collaborates
a
lot.
O
The
1430
Riverside
Drive
project
is
a
really
good
example
of
this.
When
PSNC
and
progress
energy
donated
the
properties
at
1430
Riverside,
the
aarc
started
talking
about
removing
the
fence
around
that
property
that
was
helping
to
make
our
riverfront
look
more
like
a
prison
than
a
park.
In
that
conversation,
one
of
our
commissioners,
Mayor
Jerry
vihaan,
mentioned
that
the
town
of
woodfin
was
needing
some
fencing
for
their
new,
auto
impound
yard.
O
So
the
long
and
short
is
that
would
fins
public
works
department
came
in
and
got
the
fence
at
no
cost
to
the
city
of
Asheville,
a
win
for
the
city
of
Asheville,
a
win
for
the
city
of
for
the
town
of
woodfin
and
a
win
for
our
riverfront.
This
partner
partnering
between
municipalities
is
something
that
we
encourage
and
plan
to
continue
to
foster.
The
AAR
see
also
advises
it's
part
of
our
job.
The
ice
house
project
is
a
good
example
of
that.
O
The
city
of
Asheville
put
up
a
ton
of
resources
with
city,
legal
staff,
City
real
estate
staff
planning
staff,
public's
works,
the
homeless
coordinator
working
with
APD,
and
they
have
to
deal
with
what
had
become
a
nightmare
scenario.
The
aarc
worked
with
the
river
arts
district
Business
Association,
the
Western
Klingon
Avenue,
neighborhood
association,
as
well
as
the
river
arts
district
artists,
and
made
a
recommendation
to
City
Council
about
a
positive
in
outcome.
The
city
of
Asheville
committed
considerable
resources
so
that,
today,
this
property
is
no
longer
a
nuisance,
a
footnote
to
this
whole
process.
O
This
is
what
the
ice
house
looked
like
as
it
was
being
torn
down.
You
can
see
the
little
99
in
the
background
there.
A
week
before
the
demolition
began,
a
wood
company
received
four
new
pieces
of
equipment
to
help
them
expand
their
business
and
it's
almost
as
if
they
were
looking
forward
to
the
new
sort
of
a
new
day
down
on
the
river.
And
so
we
appreciate
all
of
the
input
from
the
city
of
Asheville
to
make
that
a
reality
to
build
on
the
successes
of
the
ice
house
in
2013,
the
city
of
Asheville.
O
In
part,
with
help
from
our
federal
partners
through
the
east
of
the
river
way,
strategic
communities.
I'm,
sorry
Easter,
the
Riverways
sustainable
communities
grant
the
city
of
Asheville
has
begun.
The
Riverside
Drive
strategic
plan
to
identify
highest
and
best
reuse
of
city-owned
property,
along
with
recommendations
of
how
to
partner
with
private
sector,
to
achieve
as
many
of
the
city
of
Asheville's
goals
as
possible
and
provide
a
redevelopment
plan
that
will
bring
a
return
on
the
taxpayer
dollars.
We
expect
this
process
to
commence
soon
and
it
will
be
a
24-week
process.
O
From
what
I
understand
from
the
consultants,
the
consultants
will
be
taking
a
tour
of
the
study
area
with
the
riverfront
Redevelopment
Commission
on
a
pond
Saturday
April
twentieth,
and
they
ask
that
you
put
May
31st.
As
on
your
calendar,
there
will
be
a
big
public
event
looking
for
community
input
at
that
point,
another
piece
that
has
been
very
much
a
part
of
our
workflow
in
2012
and
continues
to
be
part
of
our
workflow
in
2013
is
the
river
arts
district
transportation
improvement
project.
O
We
have
moved
on
to
phase
two
and
that
phase
two
will
focus
on
the
spot.
Safety
needs
out
needs
outlined
by
council
as
part
of
the
conditional
use
approval
for
new
belgium
brewery.
I
will
say
that
last
night,
New
Belgium
breweries,
general
manager,
Jay
Richardson,
reiterated
that
the
altos
that
all
what
he
not
sure
exactly
how
he
said
it,
but
the
way
I
heard
it
was
alternate
truck
configurations,
ie,
the
trucks
being
smaller
or
shorter
actually
proved
to
have.
O
They
had
many
more
options
than
they
originally
thought,
and
that
should
help
make
the
Norfolk
Southern
train
bridge
height
issue
a
non-issue,
but
the
turning
radius
intersection
at
the
intersection
of
Craven
and
Riverside
is
still
a
concern
having
it
ultimately
having
a
shovel
ready,
rad
to
project,
hence
available
for
federal
funding.
As
the
goal
with
the
uncertainty
around
our
current
budget
considerations,
the
aarc
will
work
as
one
outreach
arm
to
bring
partners
together
to
see
how
we
can
pay
for
this
another
job
that
the
aarc
takes
very
seriously,
as
is
as
an
informational
source.
O
In
our
January
meeting,
commissioner
George
missoni
mentioned
the
bigger
its
water
waters
Act
and
its
effect
on
flood
insurance
rates
going
potentially
going
up
significantly.
Mayor
vihaan
got
us
in
contact
with
John
Gerber,
who
is
the
North
Carolina
coordinator
for
the
National
Flood
Insurance
Program,
and
he
will
be
doing
a
presentation
that
are
meeting
this
coming
thursday
at
four
o'clock
at
the
chamber.
O
He
will
also
be
telling
us
about
the
new
flood
risk
information
system
being
implemented
in
North
Carolina
and
thanks
to
me,
or
vihaan
buncombe
county
will
be,
will
be
one
of
the
first
ones
to
get
included
into
that.
Okay,
we
do
a
lot
of
other
stuff
in
that
we
do
a
lot
of
behind-the-scenes.
We
have
what
we
call
our
internal
networking
talking.
You
know
just
private
having
coffee
with
property
owners
having
property
having
coffee
with
anybody
that
might
be
able
to
partner
with
us.
We
also
do
our
local
are
sort
of
our
outreach.
O
Sorry
I'm
not
going
to
read
all
this
stuff,
but
the
main
thing
to
know
about
the
website.
We've
talked
about
having
an
AAR
see
website
before,
and
what
we
find
is
that
we
think
we
will
be
best
served
if
we
use
the
city
of
Asheville
website.
For
the
official
information
about
the
AAR,
see
I
have
set
up
a
VL
riverfront
calm.
O
As
my
commission
chairs
blog,
it's
really
a
community
information
based
place,
and
then
we
are
also
this
year
working
with
the
economic
development
coalition
to
make
a
developer
focused
portal
that
will
have
a
riverfront
focus.
Their
we're
talking
about
seeing
if
their
databases
can
be,
can
be
searched
by
riverfront
properties
and
make
that
process
a
lot
easier.
O
So
we're
working
on
that
to
go
forward
we're
also
working
with
city
of
Asheville
economic
development
on
gap,
analysis
about
what
the
pieces
between
what
the
city
does,
what
the
county
does
and
make
sure
that
everything
is
covered,
I
won't
get
down.
This
is
a
new
project
at
233
Riverside
we're
also
seeing
this
Thursday.
This
is
just
a
list
of
a
bunch
of
things
that
are
happening
on
the
riverfront
again,
there's
more
information
about
all
of
this
on
the
website.
O
If
you
choose
to
go
11
thompson
street,
we
hope
to
be
new
apartments
on
our
riverfront
and
living
on.
The
riverfront
is
really
important
to
us.
As
always,
please
join
us.
Our
meeting
is
the
second
second
thursday
of
every
month
at
four
pm
at
the
second
floor,
boardroom
of
the
chamber.
That's
my
personal
information
and
my
information
that
email
works
really
well
for
city
staff.
We
all
share
that
email
and
then
Stephanie
Monson
is
our
terrific
staff
liaison,
and
so
this
is
her
contact
information.
O
F
Of
all
I
would
have
bet
the
farm.
You
could
not
have
said
that
all
in
that
one
time
I
already
got
all
that
is
the
rivers
or
one
of
the
rivers
largest
cheerleaders.
She
is
I
she's
kind
of
the
the
artist
who
has
stepped
out
and
made
a
huge
difference
for
a
lot
of
people
and
I'm
very
pleased
that
we've
had
great
leadership.
Is
this
riverfront
Redevelopment
Commission
has
unfolded
and
Ricky
silver
had
it
to
begin
with
and
I
thought
well,
who
we
find
early
place
Ricky
with,
but
patty
is
just
unbelievable.
F
Is
god
this
is?
This
is
a
great
occasion
to
have
Patti
come
do
this
in
it.
The
Mayor
was
this.
This
was
an
idea
that
the
mayor
came
up
with.
Originally
is
one
of
those
thoughts
that
she
had
several
years
ago
that
we
could
work
together
and
put
together
a
group
of
people
that
would
have
a
stake
in
the
river
and
would
would
come
along.
So
all
these
members
are
from
different
organizations
and
it's
great
to
have
everybody
the
same
table,
doing
working
on
the
same
goals
and
it's
up
it's
a
good
group
of
people.
O
31St,
it
is
I,
don't
have
solid
details.
What
I'm
hearing
is.
It
will
be
to
talk
about
a
bunch
of
partnerships
that
are
going
on
in
in
in
and
around
city-owned
property
in
the
river
arts
district.
So
it
will
be.
The
Asheville
design
center
will
be
talking
about
that
pedestrian
bridge
that
I
alluded
to.
It
will
be
an
opportunity
to
get
feedback
I
believe
it
will
also
include
openly
legal
Gonzalez
doing
some
work
with
Mission
Hospital
around
some
place,
making
devices
in
the
river
arts
district.
O
M
O
Q
O
It's
interesting
because
there
has
been
some
conversation
about
how
we
are
configured.
You
know
when
we
were
looking
at.
Do
we
do
a
website?
The
big
question
was:
where
do
we
get
funding
for
a
website
and
how
do
we
activate
all
of
our
partners
to
as
Peter
Sprague
referred
to
to
lean
in
so
I
would
say
any
kind
of
capacity
building
for
collaboration
with
in
between
the
economic
development
coalition,
the
county
and
all
of
our
partners?
That
would
be
a
true
asset,
but
I'll
come
back
to
you
with
a
list.
How
about
that?
A
Counsel
before
we
call
up
mr.
Richardson
I
want
to
take
an
opportunity
for
chief
Barnett
to
just
give
us
a
quick
overview
of
what's
happening
with
the
fires
that
have
been
happening
on
a
river,
how
they
responded.
We
know
you
all
have
been
working
hard
on
those
issues.
So
can
you
speak
to
what's
going
on?
Yes,.
I
Ma'am
I'll
be
be
happy
to
from
the
time
period
of
April
first
until
April,
the
sixth.
We
responded
to
four
intentionally
set
fires
here
in
Asheville.
That's
an
unusually
high
number.
His
council
knows
for
Asheville,
so
that
certainly
gives
us
some
alarm
when
we
have
four
intentionally
set
fires
in
a
short
time
period
of
those
four
fires
to
occurred
in
the
same
night.
The
good
news
is
is
since
Saturday
April
26.
I
We
have
not
had
any
more
fires
and
we
do
have
resources
that
are
investigating
all
of
these
incidents,
and
we
certainly
urge
the
community
that,
if
anyone
has
any
information
that
can
assist
the
crime
stoppers
calling
a
APD
at
the
25
to
1,
110
and
then
also
the
the
text
to
tip
number
is
a
CRI
mes
crimes.
If
someone
wants
to
use
that
new
new
tool,
as
certainly
as
beneficial
to
get
information
from
the
community,
okay.
A
G
G
Will
briefly
go
over
relevant
legislation,
bills
that
are
in
Raleigh
and
in
play?
Currently,
I
would
like
to
recognize
mr.
Jackson,
who
just
stepped
in
during
the
river
presentation
on
mr.
Jackson,
has
been
in
Raleigh
all
day
today,
mara,
most
of
the
day
and
spent
the
afternoon
coming
back,
and
the
first
bill
that
I
will
highlight
for
the
council
is
actually
the
one
of
the
main
reasons
that
mr.
Jackson
was
in
rolla.
He
was
there
this
morning
to
address
the
Finance
Committee,
and
certainly
mr.
G
Jackson
I'll
highlight
briefly
what
happened
and
then,
if
you
have
anything
to
add,
certainly
would
love
for
you
to
provide
any
information
that
you
have.
This
is
House
bill,
488
mayor
Bellamy,
the
regionalization
of
our
public
utilities.
This
morning,
as
I
just
mentioned,
the
Finance
Committee
house,
finance
committee
did
hear
from
city
manager
Jackson
and
did
a
vote
to
move
this
forward
house
bill.
488
will
now
move
to
the
House
floor
and
House
committee
members
today
indicated
that
they
may
introduce
amendments
to
the
legislation.
G
G
Sir,
and
in
addition
to
that,
I
know
that
city
attorney
host
is
also
drafted.
A
resolution
for
councils
consideration
this
evening
on
House
Bill
488,
opposing
that
bill
to
move
forward
mayor
several
other
that
I
will
talk
about
that
have
more
of
a
direct
impact
or
an
immediate
impact
on
Nashville
budget.
I
know
that
last
week
this
actual
city
council
did
host
to
town
hall
meeting
mid
last
week,
and
you
talked
with
our
community
about
several
of
these
bills
and
what
the
potential
impact
could
be
on.
G
Our
budget
I
will
mention
house
bill
252,
which
is
somewhat
tied
to
house
bill
488,
and
this
specifically
addresses
the
repeal
of
the
Sullivan
act
amendment
that
currently
allows
the
city
of
Asheville
to
transfer
five
percent
of
its
utility
revenue
for
infrastructure
improvements
that
are
associated
with
water
line
improvements
house
bill
252
has
passed.
The
House
5%
equates
to,
I
believe
about
1.8
million
dollars
annually
in
this
bill
would
would
discontinue
Asheville's
ability
to
utilize
utility
revenue
for
this
purpose
house
bill
22
to
24.
Previously.
G
This
has
been
discussed
in
this
menu
with
council,
but
this
is
the
legislature
or
the
bill
that
would
propose
or
requires
the
city
of
Asheville,
to
relinquish
our
extra
territorial
jurisdiction
in
Buncombe
County.
It
also
would
prevent
Asheville
from
initiating
any
non
voluntary
annexation
proceedings.
This
has
been
approved
in
the
house
and
has
been
referred
to
the
Senate
Committee
on
state
and
local
government
Senate
bill
363.
This
is
the
business
tax,
tax
reduction
and
reform
bill.
G
This
has
this
is
a
statewide
bill.
This
has
received
a
lot
of
attention
in
Raleigh.
We're
continuing
to
monitor
it
closely.
The
effective
date
I
would
flag
for
the
council,
as
you
are
aware,
is
January
the
first
2015
if
it's
passed
as
proposed,
and
it
has
a
fiscal
impact
with
the
loss
of
that
business
privilege
license
of
somewhere
between
1.4
and
1.7
million
dollars
annually
to
our
general
fund
Senate
bill
394
is
the
the
tax
reform
bill
that
the
General
Assembly
has
been
working
on?
G
I
know
the
Asheville
City
Council
has
been
monitoring
this
closely
and
you
have
spoke
to
our
local
delegation
I'm
sure
we
do
know
that
representative
Moffat
restated
last
week
that
the
intent
of
the
bill
is
to
ensure
that
cities
across
North
Carolina
remain
revenue
neutral.
We
continue
to
monitor
this.
I
know
that
cities
and
counties
across
the
state
are
monitoring
this
closely,
simply
because
there
are
no
details
at
this
time
as
to
how
this
would
affect
cities
and
counties
across
the
state
on
a
city
and
county
by
county
basis
and.
G
Thank
you
yes,
ma'am,
and,
in
addition
to
that-
and
this
is
received
some
attention
in
the
media
House
bill
for
18,
which
is
a
bill
that
would
propose
the
the
creation,
through
buncombe
county
government,
establishing
a
joint
city-county
parks
and
recreation
authority.
The
staff
is
continuing
to
to
monitor
this,
to
look
at
it
and
is
prepared
to
work
to
to
look
at
what
this
might
look
at.
Q
Thank
you
I
appreciate
mr.
Richardson,
giving
us
the
report
and
keeping
counsel
in
a
community
of
rest
of
several
important
bills
that
are
moving
through
the
General
Assembly
at
this
time.
My
report
from
attending
this
morning,
Senate
vaniya
house
finance
committee,
is
as
follows.
The
committee
heard,
what's
called
house
bill,
488
revised,
which
is
a
regionalization
of
water
and
sewer
utilities.
It
is
presented,
as
you
may
know,
calls
for
all
systems,
all
combined
sewer
and
water
system
survey
and
under
100
serving
over
125,000
people
must
be
conformed.
Q
With
this
new
general
statewide
public
bill,
it
calls
for
15-member
board
to
be
appointed
and
then
goes
into
specifications
about
how
that
applies
to
serving
multiple
counties.
How
many
would
be
appointed
by
the
largest
city
in
that
area,
each
of
those
areas
and
then
provides
for
other
municipal
appointments
to
the
15-member
board.
Q
We
are
serving
our
business
as
well
we're
serving
our
citizens
well
with
reliable
quality
supply.
We
have
meets
consistent
and
significant
efficiency
improvements
in
our
system,
and
so,
when
you
combine
house
bill,
488
the
regionalization
with
the
other
bill
that
mr.
Richardson
mentioned
house
bill
252.
The
proposal
would
not
create
productivity
and
efficiency
savings
for
our
ratepayers.
So
I
emphasize
that
point
that
at
this
point
we
are
running
a
top-rate
system.
That's
meeting
our
customers
needs,
that's
very
cost
effective
efficient
and
there
would
not
be
by
the
own
calculations
of
the
consultant.
Q
Independent
consultant
that
was
engaged
by
the
sewer
district
would
not
produce
savings,
so
this
was
a
low
return.
A
very
high-risk
proposition
in
that
we
were
on
track
with
identified
by
in
2010
by
Forbes,
is
one
of
the
top
ten
locations
for
conducting
business
in
the
country
that
we
had
in
2012
the
highest
grade
of
municipal
job
growth
and
creation
among
all
metropolitan
areas
in
the
state,
and
that,
at
this
point,
our
tourism
and
hospitality
industry,
which
is
so
important,
has
now
recovered
fully
to
above
2008
recession,
levels
of
occupancy.
Q
So
that
we're
on
the
right
trajectory.
We
certainly
feel
that
we're
managing
the
water
system
the
best
way
possible,
and
most
recently,
as
evidenced
by
Nash
breweries,
the
Sierra
Nevada
and
New
Belgium
deciding
to
come
here,
spend
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
and
create
hundreds
of
jobs
when
they
could
choose
any
other
water
system
to
draw
from
for
their
product
anywhere
on
the
East
Coast.
Q
So
we
feel
like
we're
on
the
right
trajectory
and
so
therefore
I
communicated
the
consensus
of
this
council
that
you
were
opposed
to
the
regionalization
and
that
is
taking
requiring
both
the
sewer
district,
metropolitan
Sewer,
District
and
the
city
of
Asheville
to
move
assets
and
permits
to
a
newly
created
regional
entity.
So
this
would
be
a
new
regional
entity
that
would
replace
the
two
existing
regional
entities
that
already
are
in
place
at
that.
The
only
thing
I
would
add
to
that
which
the
outcome
is
pretty
certain.
The
vote
went
along
partisan
lines.
Q
I
will
say
that
representative
Moffitt
was
gracious
and
allowed
me
up
to
six
minutes
to
present
my
comments,
as
you
know,
he's
still
he
and
representative
Ramsey
and
representative
McGrady
from
Hendersonville
are
the
the
authors
of
this
bill.
So,
notwithstanding
that
they're
advocating
the
bills,
they
were
gracious
and
allowing
my
comments
to
be
heard.
Those
comments
were
favorably
received
by
the
committee
members.
There
were
probably
several
notable
comments.
Q
The
outcome
of
the
vote
was
I
believe
18
to
10
in
favor
the
bill
largely
along
partisan
lines,
as
I
indicated
before.
So
it
goes
to
the
house
tomorrow.
The
questions
that
are
in
the
comments,
then
highlighted
were
also
cause
for
the
committee
to
task
the
bill
draft
or
bill
drafting
staff
to
revisit
the
way
the
bills
written
to
be
a
general
bill
and
to
prepare
potential
amendments
and
revisions
on
the
floor
to
make
it
clear
that
it
does
not
extend
and
apply.
Mba,
thou
shalt
and
thou
must
two
more
systems
than
Asheville.
M
Had
a
question
for
mr.
Richardson
about
the
bill,
it
was
just
introduced
and
and
I
guess
it's
more
of
not
so
much.
A
question
is
to
clarify
for
people
listening
at
home,
the
state
that
that
bill
would
attempt
to
reduce
the
ability
of
municipal
governments
to
protect
water
and
to
impose
conservation
rules
right
they're,
trying
to
take
away
our
ability
to
do
more
than
the
state
rules.
Yes,.
G
G
That's
intending
cities
who
may
have
higher
levels
of
control,
more
chickens,
more
requirements
in
the
areas
of
stormwater
in
the
areas
of
grading
in
the
areas
of
stormwater
retention
and
other
related
developmental
controls
that
they
that
they
align
with
minimum
state
requirements,
we're
going
to
continue
to
monitor
that
and
and
and
see
exactly
what
that
means,
and
it's
a
tone
and
inconsistency
that
we've
seen
with
other
related
bills
in
the
area
of
permitting
and
in
development
review.
Thank
you.
We.
A
Also
have
to
look
at
the
federal
legislation,
because
the
reason
we
have
a
stormwater
utility
today
is
because
it
was
an
unfunded
mandate
that
was
passed
on
by
the
federal
government,
stating
that
we
had
to
put
a
committee
together
to
look
at
these
issues
to
create
this
utility
and
to
look
at
some
of
the
requirements.
So
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
where
it
is
adherent
to
the
federal
requirements
and
maybe
outline
some
of
the
concerns
that
may
exist.
A
G
This
afternoon
we
have
about
16
total
bill
oils
that
are
on
a
matrix.
That
is
that
our
actual
website
that
we
continue
to
monitor
that
could
have
some
effect
in
some
way
on
the
city
of
Asheville.
Many
of
those
bills
are
statewide
as
opposed
to
local
bills,
but
we'll
continue
to
monitor
that
matrix
and
try
to
provide
those
updates
for
citizens
and
we're
also
getting
a
lot
of
assistance
through
our
league
of
municipalities,
who's
also
tracking,
on
a
daily
basis
how
these
bills
are
moving
through
through
the
house
and
senate.
Okay.
N
One
more
follow-up
about
this
particular
piece
of
legislation.
I
I've
heard
a
couple
of
opinions
already
about
it
with
some
concern
that
the
bill
won't
apply
only
to
these
minimum
design
criteria,
but
could
be
interpreted
to
mean
that
we
can't
have
a
lot
of
different
types
of
city
standards
that
would
exceed
those
set
by
the
state
and
I'm
hoping
to
hear
more
from
legal
about
that
as
y'all
do
an
interpretation
to
see
how
broadly
it
could
be
applied.
Yes,
sir.
R
Not
had
any
more
time
to
look
at
the
bill
mr.
Richardson
has,
but
that
was
that
was
the
sense
that
I
got
from
it
was
it
was.
It
was
just
in
the
brief
review
that
I
did.
Half
of
it
is
that
it
was
one
of
the
intents
of
it
was
to
was
to
conform
local
regulation
with
state
regulation,
which
in
many
cases
would
be
a
less
stringent
form
of
regulation.
So.
R
A
Right
and
Bob
as
you're
preparing
to
speak
at
you
know,
council
I
do
think
it
just
needs
to
be
said
again
that
I
don't
support
the
bills
in
its
new
state.
That
has
been
offered
up
for
consideration
tomorrow
for
our
house.
The
North
Carolina
legislatures
on
the
house
side
I
think
the
concerns
that
were
expressed
about
other
members
of
the
committee
today
from
Wake
County,
from
representing
representing
their
water
system,
saying
that
they're
concerned
about
some
of
the
statewide
impact
that
they
don't
want
this
in
wake
county.
A
So
I
think
what
has
been
changed
and
presenting
even
today
is
not
a
best
management
practice.
Nor
is
it
a
good
bill
and
that's
those
of
the
words
were
actually
stated
today
that
one
of
the
legislature
said
this
is
not
a
good
bill.
They
actually
said
this
is
a
bad
bill,
so
Bob
I
think
you
have
some
resolutions
for
us.
I
have.
N
R
N
Q
Mother
doing
that,
if
I
may
just
add
presuming
the
bill
moves
through
the
house,
that's
the
regionalization
of
water
and
sewer
utilities
in
areas
are
upgraded,
125,000
population.
It
will
go
to
the
Senate
next.
We
refer,
probably
the
local
government
or
finance
in
the
Senate,
and
for
that
reason
I
just
want
to
mention.
P
Q
This
seemed
to
be
above
and
beyond,
is
also
concerned
and
you'll
be
hearing
more
about
this.
That
the
bill
does
allow
for.
Privatization
of
administration
of
a
water
system
does
not
allow
for
the
transfer
or
sale
of
the
water
system,
but
it
does
allow
for
privatization
of
the
administration
of
the
water
system.
What.
R
The
mayor
and
council,
at
the
suggestion
of
our
legislative
consultants
in
Raleigh
and
along
with
some
representatives,
we
put
together
a
resolution
that
that
expresses
opposition
to
house
bill
488
along
the
same
lines
of
the
resolutions.
The
council
has
previously
adopted
those
previous
resolutions
which
were
adopted
in
December
and
actually
early
in
2012
in
layton
2012
were
adopted
common
a
vacuum
because
we
didn't
know
what
the
bill
would
look
like
when
I
when
it
was
finally
introduced
on
march
28th,
which
was
after
your
last
meeting
the
bill
was
introduced.
R
We've
had
a
chance
to
go
through
it.
I've
had
very
little
time
with
the
with
the
committee
substitute
that
mr.
Jack's
referred
to
today,
but
I.
Don't
think
that
any
of
the
fundamental
brigid's
have
changed
and
what
this,
what
this
resolution
does
is
is
it
is.
It
speaks
to
some
of
the
some
of
the
specific
a
little
bit
to
the
specific
provisions
of
house
bill,
488
and
also
folds
in
the
previous.
The
previous
resolutions
mentions
it
that
over
50
cities
have
adopted
resolution
of
closing
the
force
transfer
of
water
systems.
R
It
one
of
the
things
that
that
has
addressed
a
House
bill
for
88
is
is
down
in
is
in
is
in
this
this
provision
here
where
it's-
and
this
was
something
that
the
people
have
noted
was
some
concern-
is
that
an
authority
established
pursuant
to
the
new
law
that
would
be
adopted
would
have
the
power
to
condemn
property,
borrow
money,
adopt
ordinances,
set
water
and
sewer
rates
that
impose
taxes.
But
it's
not
an
elected
board
and
I
know
it's
concerned.
R
This
council
is
expressed
and
repeating
some
of
the
some
of
the
sentiments
that
were
expressed
in
early
resolutions.
It
it
is,
we
think,
and
this
it
gets
confirmed
every
day-
would
be
a
nun
press
intrusion
by
the
state
in
the
matters
that
have
long
been
managed
of
local
concern,
which
is
a
point
we've
tried
to
emphasize
over
and
over,
and
so
the
the
the
beer
is
all
part
of
the
resolution
says
it.
R
Council
opposes
house
bill
48
for
the
reasons
set
forth
above
and
for
the
reasons
expressed
in
your
previous
resolutions,
don't
be
attached
this
resolution
and
that
we
request
that
the
that
the
members
of
North
Carolina
assembly
vote
against
House
bill
for
88
and
mr.
Jackson.
What
is
is
the
is
this
scheduled
to
go
to
the
floor
of
the
house
tomorrow
or
thursday
tomorrow?
M
M
A
A
Ok,
cancel
all
in
favor
the
resolution,
please
say:
aye
aye
all
opposed
like
sign.
The
motion
carries.
Thank
you
all
so
very
much
involved.
If
you
get
that
to
my
get
it
signed,
so
we
can
get
it
to
our
legislatures
Gary.
We
did
to
the
next
budget
work
session
for
a
for
the
18th.
When
do
you
want
council's
comments
regarding
best
proposed
cuts
like
I'm,
not
supportive
of
the
nature
center
and
some
of
the
other
things
that
were
on
the
list,
so
we're
gonna.
M
Q
Understand
it,
you
were
setting
a
public
hearing,
another
town
hall
meeting.
What
we
heard
from
you
at
the
last
town
hall
meeting
is
that
you'd
like
to
replicate
the
staff
presentation
if
there
any
aspects
of
that
presentation
that
do
not
meet
with
the
satisfaction
of
four
members
of
council
will
be
happy
to
to
edit
and
make
those
revisions
as
accordingly,
okay.
N
Yeah
I'm
interested
in
getting
to
that
point
as
well
and
with
so
many
moving
parts
of
the
legislature
right
now,
I.
What
I
found
myself
curious
is
about
is
how
far
down
the
road
are
we
going
to
have
to
kick
some
of
this
decisions
until
things
become
more
concrete
as
far
as
the
budget
numbers
go,
and
it
seems
very
unclear
at
this
point.
Q
Yessum,
please
understand
that
what
the
staff
presentation
did
was
outline
various
different
alternative
decision-making
packages
and
alternatives
for
council.
It
certainly
didn't
recommend
one
or
the
other
as
a
certainty,
but
simply
to
say
if
you
were
looking
at
him,
something
in
the
magnitude
of
five
to
six
million
dollars
and
we
were
looking
across
the
board
at
cuts.
Q
This
is
what
we
we
would
put
on
the
table
and
ask
for
your
direction,
for
so
don't
consider
that
as
a
budget
proposal
or
even
an
outline
for
what
the
budget
would
be,
we
as
you
indicate
councilmember
Gordon,
would
work
with
you
if,
if
the
impact
of
the
state
bills
would
be
reduced
from
six
million
to
a
lower
number,
we
but
we
would
adjust.
Accordingly,
we
have
some
priorities
as
well
from
the
things
that
are
on
the
list
and
you
will
continue
to
hear
from
citizens.
Q
Q
A
Comments
all
right,
Thank,
You
counsel.
We
only
have
a
couple
more
things
on
our
printed
agenda,
because
a
lot
of
things
have
been
delayed.
The
next
Adam
and
the
only
public
hearing
we
have
this
evening-
is
a
continuation
of
consideration
of
an
amendment
to
the
conditional
zoning
for
we're
bridge
village,
sign
its
package
located
on
him,
Savile
Row
legacy
oaks
place
and
record
Club
Road
and
the
Vice
Mayor
close
the
public
hearing
on
this
issue.
If
a
member?
A
A
M
I've
long
believed
that
we
need
to
enforce
our
sign
ordinances
and
that
they
need
to
be
enforced
equally
on
all
businesses
and
that
it's
bad
policy
to
keep
making
variances
and,
if
I,
think,
if
the,
if
in
the
future,
it's
better
to
have
the
ability
to
put
two
signs
to
sandwich
boards
up
for
for
a
drive
through.
That's
something
council
should
consider
separately.
M
A
T
When
the
sign
ordinance
was
adopted
whatever
15-20
years
ago,
the
prototype
for
drive-through
restaurants
was
a
single
menu
board.
A
single
order
station
in
very
recent
years,
I
think
we
probably
only
seen
it
in
the
last
two
or
three
years
that
prototype
has
changed
and
what
we
are
seeing
is
people
modernize
or
up
date.
There
drive-through,
restaurants
or
new
drive-through
restaurants
are
built
there
looking
at
the
two
different
ordering
stations
where
they
converge
to
where
you
pay
and
pick
up
your
food.
T
There
is
an
interest,
and
we
just
staff
has
just
not
gotten
around
to
it
in
amending
this,
recognizing
that
this
is
the
prototype
and
very
often
you
don't
even
see
the
menu
boards
from
the
road
in
the
interim.
It's
my
understanding
and
I
have
not
taken
these
matters
to
the
board
of
adjustment,
but
it's
my
understanding
that
at
least
two
situations
where
there
was
either
a
renovation
update
or
a
new
drive-through
facility,
constructed
that
the
board
has
granted
the
ability
to
use
to
menu
boards
on
a
parcel
with
the
same
size.
T
The
36
square
feet
allowed
for
a
particular
menu
board,
but
but
allowing
to
recognizing
that
this
is
the
future
and
that
there
is
an
interest
in
amending
that
policy.
That
staff
has.
It
is
recognizing
that
and
would
bring
that
forward
to
to
council.
We
haven't
done
that
at
this
time,
but
should
you
choose
to
approve
this?
It
wouldn't
be
out
of
I,
wouldn't
it
be
different
from
what
the
board
of
his
adjustment
has
done
in
those
recent
cases.
Thank.
S
You
what
I
would
offer
is
the
decision
about
whether
or
not
there
should
be
a
drive-thru
restaurant
on
this
site
was
essentially
made
in
2006
when
the
the
highway
business,
the
conditional
zoning
designation
for
this
property
was
made.
I
understand
the
meaning.
The
residents
are
concerned
about
a
drive-through
restaurant
going
on
this
site
and
would
seek
to
have
this
just
as
a
leverage
point
to
keep
that
from
happening
again.
S
It's
my
view
that
that
the
decision
about
what
the
use
of
the
site
would
be
was
determined
in
2006
I
just
am
unwilling
to
use
what
really
amounts
to
a
sort
of
a
non
synchronization
of
our
our
ordnance,
with
the
reality
of
how
every
fast-food
business
is
being
built
is
a
means
to
deter
that
I
think
the
developer
did
get
essentially
a
classification
that
made
economic
sense
them
now.
I'm,
not
a
fan
of
sprawl
development.
I'm,
not
a
fan
of
fast-food
drive-through
zai.
S
Don't
wish
to
see
a
proliferation
of
high
traffic
or
this
kind
of
development
across
the
city.
I.
Don't
want
anybody
to
get
me
wrong
about
that,
but
I
do
think
that
in
terms
of
equity
and
fairness
and
history
that
that
this
should
move
forward
with
the
granting
of
the
the
second
menu.
Fourth
sign
I
think
it's
a
30
square
foot
sign
so
I
plan
to
support
it.
Thank
you
is.
D
Question
mayor,
we
have
several
members
of
the
public
here
regarding
this
issue
as
well:
crow,
crow
fields,
residents
as
well
as
the
developer.
We
have
this
advertised
on
our
agenda
here
as
a
public
hearing
and
and
given
the
fact
that
our
agenda
is
relatively
light
tonight,
I
think
we
should
be
willing
to
listen
to
the
members
of
the
public
that
wish
to
speak
to
it.
A
Will
be
up
the
council
arm
only
because
of
advice
to
close
the
public
hearing
for
public
comment
last
session.
The
seller
will
be
the
will
of
council
to
open
it
back
up.
Public
comment,
usually
just
so
you
know,
protocol
is
only
opened
up
to
new
information
whenever
we
continue
an
issue.
We
open
it
up
for
public
comment
where
new
information
is
provided
new
stickers.
So
new
speakers,
new.
A
D
A
D
U
First
of
all,
I
would
like
to
say
one
thing
regarding
this
whole
affair:
the
Association
excuse
me,
the
City
Council
approved
this
development
in
2006.
I
think
it
was,
and
our
biggest
complaint
at
that
time.
Of
course,
you're
going
to
have
certain
individuals
that
express
their
certain
things
that
they
don't
like
or
like,
but
the
thing
was
at
that
time
was
the
density.
That
was
the
big
factor.
It
was
nothing
other
than
that,
because
I
said
at
that
meeting
years
ago
that
we
are
not
against
development.
U
The
the
city
of
ashes
is
growing
people
moving
here
weekly
daily,
and
so
we
understand
that
the
only
problem
we
have
there
is
the
traffic
issue
at
this
time.
That
is
the
big
point.
I
would
like
to
say
if
I
could
a
little
history
for
some
of
the
new
council
members
who
were
not
on
council
at
that
point
in
time
and
give
you
a
little
background.
If
you
don't
mind,
first
of
all,
when
mr.
U
pulliam,
our
developer,
yeah
I,
will
flock
first
of
all,
give
him
a
compliment
of
a
compliment
that
he
said
he
was
going
to
be
able
to
beautiful
complex,
which
he
has,
and
it
is
very
beautiful,
very
lovely,
a
lot
of
amenities.
But
to
give
you
the
history
of
how
this
all
came
about.
Mr.
poem
came
to
us
in
2005.
I
think
it
was.
I
was
a
chair
at
that
point
of
the
Association
and
I
enlisted
the
help
of
three
former
past
presidents
of
Crow
fields,
condiment
Association,
to
meet
with
mr.
U
Pulliam
several
times
and
discuss
what
his
plans
were.
First
of
all,
his
first
request
of
Crow
phils
was,
if
you
will
allow
me
to
have
a
laker
approximately
of
your
frontage
property
facing
hendersonville
road
for
a
bank
to
be
built.
I
will
give
you
an
access
to
my
development
that
was
overwhelmingly
denied
by
crow
fields
and
I.
Think
you
can
understand
that
with
the
value
of
that
property.
Nevertheless,
he
has
gone
head
and
he
has
continued
to
offer
that
access.
U
U
I
would
like
to
I
appreciate
that
very
much
because
I
needed
a
couple
more
minutes,
at
least
in
anyway,
so
we
at
that
time
it
decided
not
to
do
it
and
the
reason
for
it
is
simply
liability.
Bear
in
mind.
We
have
two
lakes,
several
streams
and
the
development
that
mr.
poem
has
developed
has
no
age
limit
on
children
or
people.
We
do
in
terms
of
how
often
visits
can
occur
and
we're
very
cognizant
that
we
do
not
want
anybody
to
get
hurt
in
our
development.
U
Moreover,
we
like
what
the
development
has
been
since
it
was
established
in
the
late
1970s,
and
it
has
had
a
lot
of
beautiful
improvements
made
and
we're
very
pleased
and
happy
with
what
we
have
there.
But
anyway,
I'm
just
asking
this
council
to
give
crew
fills
a
little
consideration
and
I
know:
there's
been
some
aggravation
in
times
past,
that
happens
and
I'm
sorry,
but
anyway,
we
would
like
to
continue
our
lifestyle
there
and
we
would
like
to
do
that
all
the
time.
But,
moreover,
it's
not
my
decision,
I'm
a
former
present
and
a
resident
this.
U
We
have
a
good
democracy
system
in
our
neighborhood
and
I'll.
Let
the
democracy
decide
what
wishes
we
would
like
to
pursue.
Pacifically.
There
are
several
people
there
that,
like
the
access
and
there's
people
who
do
not,
that
will
be
voted
on
in
our
community
to
decide
which
way
we
as
a
community
would
like
to
go,
but
we
still
have
the
traffic
problems
which
we're
all
aware
of,
and
we
will
go
with
this
in
a
civil
manner
to
resolve
this
at
in
issue.
I
think
that's
all
I
have
to
say,
except
in
closing.
U
A
Okay,
thank
you
all
counsel.
We
will
bring
you
back
in
other
questions
or
comments.
We
do
have
a
motion
on
the
floor.
In
the
other
comments,
I
would
like
to
say
something:
I
wasn't
here
in
person,
so
I
had
to
go
through
the
minutes
to
see
what
the
issues
were
and
it
looked
like
they
sent
it
around.
Access
for
crowfield,
see
it
safely,
leave
their
facilities
and
it
sounds
like
you
are
going
to
work
on
voting
as
a
body
the
residence
of
crowfield
to
take
the
offer
that
was
given
by
mr.
A
A
We
need
to
upgrade
our
sign
ordinance
because
it
is
dated,
and
so
it
isn't
up
to
date
with
a
lot
of
the
trends
that's
happening
across
the
community
and
country,
and
so
that's
why
we've
had
people
come
before
us
and
had
this
not
been
a
conditional
use
permit
process,
the
Sun
would
have
just
gone
to
the
board
of
adjustments
and
not
the
City
Council,
but
because
this
is
a
conditioner
use.
Zoning.
That's
why
I
came
to
City
Council
and
seeing
that
I
read
the
minutes
and
I
didn't
see
how
overwhelming
we
don't
want
the
board.
A
It
was
more.
We
don't
were
careful
about
access
which,
in
my
mind,
the
board
will
help
get
people
through
the
property
quicker,
as
opposed
to
having
them
build
up,
because
it's
one
sign
I'm
supportive
of
motion,
and
so
we
definitely
need
to
improve
our
sign
ordinance
to
bring
it
into
our
current
realities,
because,
if
not
going
need
to
have
these
issues
that
are
problematic,
that
could
be
easily
addressed
if
we
change
ordinances,
as
we've
heard
has
been
about
15
years,
since
we've
done
that
and
a
lot
has
changed
in
15
years.
D
Crow
fields
first
opened
in
1972,
so
they've
been
open
over
40
years
and
I've
talked
to
some
longtime
residents
there
and
they've
seen
the
the
scale
and
volume
of
traffic
along
henderson
road,
hendersonville,
road
increase
and
increase
again
and
again-
and
yes,
this
issue.
The
immediate
issue
that
we're
voting
on
today
is
about
the
sign
package.
D
So
I'm
hopeful
that
you'll
give
due
consideration
to
this,
but
I
recognize
that
in
the
eyes
of
many,
this
is
it.
Crow
fields
has
not
been
treated
fairly
over
the
years
so
but
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
and
I'm
hopeful
that
we
can
ultimately
come
to
a
solution
that
is
in
the
long-term
interest
of
the
residents.
There.
A
I
think
that
we've
responded
to
the
overwhelming
issues
that
we've
heard
that
are
in
our
realm,
but
this
is
now
in
their
realm
of
how
to
respond.
It's
offered
that
developers
actually
paid
for
this
additional
traffic
signal,
and
now
the
developer
wants
to
improve
their
entrance
to
make
it
safer
for
them,
and
so
we
can't
be
held
hostage
or
blamed
because
they
didn't
want
it
up
until
now,
and
so
it's
an
opportunity.
I
think
that
having
a
light
would
make
it
safer.
M
Me,
as
I
stated
earlier,
my
my
view
on
this
has
to
do
with
consistency
of
enforcement
of
our
rules
and-
and
I
frequently
hear
from
small
business
people
who
wish
they
had
more
signs
who
wish
they
could
have
bigger
signs
in
all
10-7.
We
don't
routinely
offer
variances
to
to
small
businesses
that
just
doesn't
happen,
but-
and
so
that's
the
reason
for
my
position
on
this,
but
in
a
larger
sense,
this
does
definitely
affect
traffic.
M
A
Me
on
the
comments
all
in
favor.
The
motion,
please
say:
aye
all
opposed
like
sign.
I
motion
carries
522
council,
those
that
that's
the
only
public.
What
is
it?
Okay,
listen
again,
all
in
favor.
Please
raise
your
hand.
I'll
oppose,
like
son,
you
trying
to
say
I
can't
count.
That
was
the
only
public
hearing
that
we
had
tonight.
The
next
item
business
is
under
new
business
in
the
boards
and
commissions.
V
V
All
right,
members
of
council,
we
need
to
select
some
folks
to
interview
for
the
airport
authority.
Now
we
do
to
our
sort
of
ridiculous
schedule.
We
cannot
interview
anyone
until
May,
so
there
were
too
late
applicants.
So
I,
don't
think
are
on
your
list.
Maggie.
Is
that
right
that
the
too
late
applicants?
V
Okay,
there's
too
late,
applicants
that
are
not
on
your
list,
but
the
boards
and
commissions
decided
to
consider
them
anyway,
because
this
is
a
lengthy
process,
so
we're
recommending
that
we
interview
the
two
applicants
that
applied
after
this
was
posted
and
one
of
them
is
a
doug
tate
and
the
other
Maggie.
Can
you
remind
me
Phillip,
Kelly,
Phillip,
Kelly
and
then
in
addition,
there
we
would
recommend
interviewing
grant
Osborne
and
if
anybody
wanted,
the
grant
Osborne
was
the
only
those
three
were
the
additional
applicants,
since
we
advertised
this
last
time.
Well,.
P
S
V
A
E
V
V
V
V
We
have
Kathy
ball
to
come,
explain
this
to
us,
because
the
attached
report
to
your
agenda
has
been
tweaked
slightly
and
Kathy
is
going
to
display
the
latest
iteration
of
this
concept
and
explain
it
to
us.
This
is
not
an
item.
We're
voting
on
tonight,
just
a
presentation
opportunity
to
ask
some
questions.
Mayor.
W
Vice
mayor
members
of
City
Council,
as
you
know,
we
have
recently
had
a
reorganization
within
the
city
department
to
put
more
focus
and
emphasis
on
multimodal
transportation
and
I've,
been
fortunate
enough
to
become
the
the
executive
director
of
Public,
Works
and
multimodal
transportation.
So
in
an
effort
to
complement
the
internal
staff,
reorganization,
we've
looked
at
the
boards
and
commissions
set
up
so
that
we
could
be
able
to
get
feedback
from
our
citizen
groups
in
advisory
groups.
As
a
result
of
doing
that,
we
took
it.
W
We
took
a
look
at
some
opportunity
to
be
able
to
take
and
implement
a
number.
One
is
to
look
at
reducing
the
number
of
boards
and
commissions,
but
have
them
focus
on
looking
at
multimodal
transportation
issues,
as
opposed
to
just
single
transportation
issues.
In
doing
that,
we
went
to
each
of
these
commissions
and
had
discussions
about
what
some
of
their
concerns
were
about.
Changing
this
and
I'll,
just
real
briefly
go
through
what
some
of
those
changes
are
at
the
top
level.
W
You
see
that
it
says
this
is
what
would
be
proposed,
that
there
would
be
a
transit
subcommittee,
a
bike
and
ped
task
force
and
a
greenway
subcommittee
that
three
members
of
each
of
those
groups
would
make
up
the
voting
members
of
a
multimodal
transportation
commission.
So
each
of
those
groups
would
recommend
members
to
City
Council
and
then
City
Council
would
review
those
and
either
approve
or
deny
them
being
a
part
of
the
multimodal
Commission.
W
The
both
the
transit
and
the
greenway,
which
are
currently
commissions
would
become
subcommittees,
and
while
they
would
receive
technical
support
and
attendance
at
meetings,
we
wouldn't
staff
the
meetings
in
terms
of
taking
minutes
or
doing
the
agenda,
and
so
that
would
that
would
be
able
to
reduce
some
of
the
staff.
Reliance
on
the
Commission's
reliance
upon
staff
and
I
would
be
happy
to
hear
from
members
of
the
boards
and
committees
Council
Committee
on
this
or
answer
any
questions
that
you
have.
S
Assume
that
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
an
ordinance
that
is
perhaps
yet
to
be
drafted.
That
would
create
this
commission,
and
so
there
will
be
some
formality
to
it
and
at
that
point
the
Transit
Commission
and
the
Greenway
Commission,
the
ordinances
that
provide
for
those
would
be
undone
or
or
left
behind.
V
W
S
I,
it
would
be
my
suggestion,
Kathy
and
I
may
have
said
this
in
an
email
in
I'm
very
interested
in
this
that
today
there
are
these
distinct
different
groups
that
meet
regularly
when
the
multimodal
Commission
comes
into
being.
Those
subcommittees
may
or
may
not
have
traction
to
stick
around.
So
to
me,
the
these
subcommittees
perhaps,
should
be
the
decision
and
authorization
of
the
future
multimodal
Commission
they
might
come
and
go.
They
might
have
no
effect
that
the
original
appointments
to
the
to
the
multimodal
Commission
Iraq,
you
know
coming
from
recommendations.
S
Those
three
groups
I
totally
support,
but
to
rely
on
those
three
subcommittees
being
functional
having
enough
traction
to
come
up
with
three
candidates
for
reappointments
and
all
I.
Just
I
worry
that
that's
too
much
structure
too
much
reliance
on
the
existence
of
subcommittees
that
having
been
on
a
commission
myself
and
a
lot
and
lots
of
structure
and
nonprofits
subcommittees,
often
kind
of
fade
away
or
change
shapes
and
in
particular
the
bike
and
ped
pass
force
in
the
Greenway
commission
or
a
greenway
committee.
Have
a
lot
overlap.
S
There's
a
there's:
a
real
spectrum
of
from
sidewalks
to
bike
paths,
to
multi-use
paths,
to
green
ways
and
different
people
call
them
the
same.
Looking
thing,
different
names
and
I
just
think:
there's
going
to
be
a
blending
and
merging
of
a
bike
and
pedal
facilities
in
the
distinction
between
greenways
and
bike
lanes
is
going
to
disappear,
and
this
must
be
let
flexibility
and
lower,
lower
less
structure,
but
providing
that
commit
commission.
The
flexibility
to
create
subcommittees
would
seem
important
in.
S
P
S
V
S
W
I
think
in
my
in
my
I
guess
intent
to
be
quick
with
my
presentation.
I
may
have
I
think
I
failed
to
relay
to
you
all
that
I
have
met
extensively
with
the
chairs
of
those
groups
and
with
each
of
them
to
kind
of
address
the
issue
of
making
sure
that
those
subcommittees
are
exist
just
and
do
provide
meaningful
input
to
the
city
and
making
decisions.
W
Some
of
the
concern
is:
if
people
aren't
appointed
to
a
subcommittee,
they
don't
tend
to
regularly
show
up.
They
don't
tend
to
give
as
good
at
input.
So
what
we
will
try
to
do
is
when
we
write
up.
This
ordinance
is
to
include
that
structure,
so
that
folks
feel
comfortable,
that
that
role
is
not
being
diminished.
V
A
D
I
move
that
out
Asheville
City
Council
go
into
closed
session
for
the
following
reason:
one
to
consult
with
an
attorney
employed
by
the
city
about
matters
with
respect
to
which
the
attorney-client
privilege
between
the
city
and
Saturnia
must
be
preserved,
including
potential
litigation.
The
statutory
authorization
is
contained
in
gs,
143
dash,
31
8.11,
a
32
to
prevent
disclosure
of
information
that
is
privileged
and
confidential.
Pursuant
to
the
laws
of
North
Carolina
were
not
considered
a
public
record
within
the
meaning
of
chapter
14,
general
statures.
The
law
that
makes
the
information
privileged
and
confidential
is
ncgs.