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A
You
hear
something
and
you
decide
suddenly
you
do
want
to
sign
up.
You
can
just
feel
free
to
leave
it
anytime
and
go
sign
up
and
they
will
continue
to
bring
the
sign
up
sheets
in
here.
Okay,
so
we're
live.
Welcome
to
the
Asheville
city
council
meeting
we're
going
to
begin
tonight
by
Rising
for
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
C
C
A
A
Okay,
all
right,
so
we
will
begin
with
our
consent
agenda.
Are
there
any
questions,
comments
regarding
the
consent
agenda
or
a
motion
to
adopt
the
same?
This
is
Sage
I'll
move
section
all
right.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
adopt
the
consent,
agenda
and
I
believe
we
have
one
person
signed
up
to
speak
on
the
consent
agenda.
Folks
tonight,
when
you
speak,
you
will
have
three
minutes
to
speak.
A
E
You
good
evening,
Council
and
mayor
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
I'm
here
to
address
item
K,
which
is
the
20
million
dollars
of
bonds
for
the
housing
authority
of
the
city
of
Asheville
to
purchase
Battery
Park
Hotel.
A
E
A
E
Part
of
the
discussion
says
that
there's
nothing
about
this-
that
obligates
the
city
of
Asheville,
to
vouch
for
this
Bond
issuance.
So
I
don't
understand
this
at
all,
and
it's
the
first
I've
heard
of
it
and
I
would
love
to
have
some
background
about
it,
so
that
we
can
know
what's
happening.
A
Thank
you
good
question.
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
the
City
attorney
to
talk
about
item
K,
which
is
a
resolution
approving
in
principle
the
issuance
of
the
housing
authority
of
the
city
of
Asheville,
up
to
20
million
dollars
of
multi-family
housing,
revenue,
bonds
for
the
acquisition
and
Rehabilitation
of
Battery
Park
Apartments.
So
the
Housing
Authority
is
a
separate
entity
from
the
city
and
Battery.
Park,
furthermore,
is
owned
by
a
private
entity.
But
we'll
have
the
City
attorney
explain
more.
F
Why
this
has
to
be
on
our
consent
agenda?
Yes,
thank
you
mayor
and
that's
an
excellent
question.
I
apologize
for
any
confusion
that
this
is
created
on
the
agenda.
This
is,
in
fact,
more
of
a
procedural
vote
than
a
substantive
one,
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
that
these
are
not
city
of
Asheville
bonds.
The
terminology
acquisition
is
not
intended
to
be
on
there.
This
is
specifically
for
the
rehabilitation
of
Battery
Park
Apartments.
The
Housing
Authority
is
the
issuer
of
these
bonds.
I
do
see.
F
David
Nash
is
in
the
audience
tonight,
but
I'm
going
to
take
my
stab
at
explaining
succinctly
why
the
city
is
taking
action
on
this
as
part
of
any
bonds
issued
by
a
local
Housing
Authority.
There
is
a
federal
requirement
set
by
the
IRS
that
requires
the
local
municipality,
where
the
Housing
Authority
is
located
to
officially
approve
through
its
governing
board,
the
issuance
of
those
bonds.
That
does
not,
however,
assume
any
responsibility,
liability
or
financial
obligation
for
the
bonds
itself
for
the
municipality.
F
Again,
it
is
a
procedural
requirement
that
the
IRS
places
upon
us
to
approve
our
local
housing
authorities
issuance
of
bonds.
But
the
city
takes
on
absolutely
no
financial
responsibility
for
that,
and
they
are
again
not
city
of
Asheville
bonds,
but
they
will
go
specifically
for
the
rehabilitation
and
mayor
Again.
David
Nash
is.
A
A
H
Okay
we
okay.
First
of
all,
the
Housing
Authority
is
not
acquiring
Battery
Park
Apartments.
These
are
not
City
bonds.
There's
no
allocation
going
there.
The
Housing
Authority
has
been
asked
to
issue
tax
exempt
bonds,
which
we
have
the
authority
to
do.
Those
bonds
will
be
sold
to
investors
on
the
bond
market
and
those
proceeds
will
be
used
by
National
Church
residences,
to
fund
the
acquisition,
I
think
internally
among
their
own
non-profits
and
Rehab
of
Battery
Park.
So.
H
A
H
And
they,
so
they
will
be
doing
in
addition
to
somehow
transferring
the
title
internally
among
their
non-profit
organizations,
they
will
be
rehabbing
the
apartments
putting
in
new
kitchen
cabinets,
New,
Heating
and
Air
systems
and
and
other
things
that
the
building
needs
an
upgrade
I
believe.
Maybe
some
new
windows,
so
they'll
be
improving
it
for
the
residents,
but
it
effectively
will
not
be
well,
definitely
won't
be
a
change
of
ownership
to
the
Housing
Authority
or
through
the.
C
H
H
They
have
their
own
separate
contract
with
HUD
for
voucher
assistance,
it's
not
a
voucher
but
for
housing
assistance
and
they
in
their
predominantly
seniors
who
live
there.
A
F
A
A
Do
you
have
a
mic?
No
okay,
okay,
Dan's
gonna!
Remember
the
picture
speak
into
your
mic.
Okay,
we
have
a
little
cheat
sheet
to
remind
us
to
speak
into
our
mic,
so
you
can
hear
us
okay,
all
right,
so
we
have
a
couple
of
presentations
and
reports
tonight.
The
first
is
the
Buncombe
County
Bond
program
and
I
have
on
my
agenda
that
chairman
brownie
Newman
of
the
buck,
County
Commission
is
here
good,
which
I
didn't
see
him
right
away
as
well.
I
Good
evening,
mayor
and
members
of
council,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
this
evening.
I
have
just
a
short
presentation,
informational
presentation
about
the
two
Bond
referendum
items
that
will
be
before
the
voters.
This
November,
so
I'll
keep
it
short.
So
if
y'all
are
here
late
this
evening,
it's
not
my
fault,
okay,
but
it's
nice
to
be
with
you
all
right.
I
All
right.
The
the
two
Bond
referendums
will
address
two
of
the
big
challenges
we
face
as
a
community,
whether
we're
going
to
be
able
to
preserve
what
we
all
love
about
this
place
in
terms
of
its
environmental
health
and
the
natural
beauty
in
the
working
Family
Farms
in
Buncombe
County,
and
whether
regular
people
are
going
to
be
able
to
continue
to
afford
to
call
this
place
up
so
affordable,
housing
and
conservation
are
the
two
separate
items
that
will
be
voted
on
and
they'll
be
voted
on
independently.
I
I
They,
the
trust,
Republic
land,
is
a
National
Organization
that
is
focused
on
open
space
protection,
primarily
through
these
kind
of
voter
approved
Bond
references.
So
they
approached
Buncombe
County
they've
received
some
grant
funding
to
support
the
feasibility
assessments
for
conservation,
focused
Bonds
in
the
southern
Appalachian
region
of
our
country,
so
they
reached
out
to
Buncombe
County
to
ask
us
whether
that
might
be
of
interest
to
Buncombe
County
and
we
said
yeah.
We
think
that
could
be
a
very
strong
interest
here.
I
So
would
you
be
willing
to
conduct
a
feasibility
study
around
affordable
housing
in
conjunction
with
assessing
the
feasibility
for
a
conservation,
focused
Bond,
and
they
said
yes,
we
would
be
happy
to
do
that,
and
so
they
carried
out
the
feasibility
study
from
November
until
January
of
2022,
part
of
that
feasibility
assessment
was
included,
some
public
polling
to
determine
whether
voters
in
the
community
would
be
interested
in
this,
and
that
came
back
very
favorable
and
based
on
their
the
overall
feasibility.
The
commission
approved
taking
next
steps
in
the
process.
I
So
these
would
be
a
general
obligation,
bonds
again
requiring
voter
approval.
The
county
has
a
AAA
credit
rating
and
that
combined
with,
if
they
are
approved,
the
use
of
General
obligation
bonds
means
that
the
county
and
the
taxpayers
will
be
able
to
access
these
Capital
funds
at
the
lowest
possible
cost.
I
So
it's
a
really
good
way
to
secure
funds
to
invest
in
these
kinds
of
capital
projects
and
all
of
the
funds
would
be
would
be
obligated
to
be
spent
specifically
on
capital
projects
that
couldn't
be
used
for
sort
of
ongoing
operational
costs,
but
rather
for
capital
projects
all
right,
so
Bond,
the
the
issuance
of
bonds.
This
is
all
governed
by
North
Carolina
General
statutes.
I
I
To
just
read
the
the
actual
language
that
will
be
on
the
ballot,
and
this
is
not
the
language
that
we
would
necessarily
choose
if
it
were
up
to
us
to
kind
of
frame
these
issues
for
the
community,
but
the
language
that's
used
for
affordable
housing
and
conservation
is
basically
just
explicitly
and
in
detail
set
forth
in
state
statutes.
So
we
basically
just
have
to
use
that
language,
even
though
it's
not
necessarily
how
any
of
us
would
talk
about
these
issues.
I
Statute,
the
bond
funds
must
be
spent
only
for
the
purposes
explicitly
stated
on
the
bond
language,
so
the
conservation
ballot
language
shall
the
order
authorizing
30
million
dollars
of
bonds
to
pay
the
capital
cost
for
acquisition
and
Improvement
of
land
or
interest
therein
for
conservation
and
protection
of
natural
resources
and
preservation
of
Farmland,
including,
but
not
limited
to
the
development
of
Greenways
and
trails
for
recreation
purposes
and
providing
that
additional
taxes.
Maybe
you
in
an
amount
sufficient
to
pay
the
principal
and
interest
on
the
bonds
be
approved.
I
In
terms
of
the
County's
goals,
around
conservation,
a
few
of
the
key
ones
that
are
relevant
to
the
investment
of
the
bonds
funds,
so
currently
18
percent
of
the
land
in
Buncombe
County
of
the
420
000
Acres
that
we
have
in
Buncombe
County
about
18
percent
of
that
is
in
some
type
of
protected
conservation
status.
You
know
and
that's
Pisgah
National
Forest,
Blue
Ridge
Parkway
lands
that
the
various
Land
Trust
organizations
in
the
county
have
worked
with
landowners
placed
on
conservation,
easements,
city
parks.
I
The
County's
got
a
couple
of
a
couple
of
existing
protected
areas.
I
The
Commissioners
have
approved
the
goal
to
between
now
and
2030
to
help
conserve
an
additional
6
000
acres
of
land
across
Buncombe
County
between
now
and
2030,
which
would
increase
the
total
of
conserved
area
in
the
county
from
18
to
20
18
to
20
percent
over
that
period
of
time,
and
we
think
six
thousand
acres
over
that
seven
years
is
a
very
ambitious
goal,
but
we
think
it's
achievable.
We
have
some
existing,
really
proven
models
for
working
on
Farmland
conservation
and
doing
conservation
easements.
I
So
these
funds
would
help
really
scale
those
efforts
up
and
the
County's
agricultural
Advisory
Board
would
be
the
group
making
the
recommendations
around
prioritizing
investments
in
family
Farmland
protection,
the
affordable
housing
language
shall
the
order
authorizing
40
million
dollars
of
bonds
to
pay
for
the
capital
cost
of
housing
for
the
benefit
of
persons
of
low
or
moderate
income,
including
construction
of
related
infrastructure
improvements
and
the
acquisition
of
related
land
and
right-of-ways.
Providing.
I
Taxes
may
be
levied
in
an
amount
sufficient
to
pay
the
principal
and
interest
on
the
bonds
to
be
approved
in
terms
of
our
affordable
housing
goals.
The
Commissioners
have
adopted
the
goal
of
supporting
the
construction
of
1850
additional,
affordable
rental
units
for
households
at
less
than
80
Ami
and
with
an
average
of
60
Ami
level
of
affordability
between
now
and
2030,
also,
the
construction
of
400
additional,
affordable
home
ownership
units
and
implementation
of
500
home
repair
projects,
with
a
focus
on
focus
on
senior
citizens
and
residents
with
disabilities.
I
I
The
county
is
going
to
create
a
web
page
that
basically
tracks
how
all
the
dollars
invested
through
the
bonds
are
spent
in
real
time
and,
of
course,
as
with
the
city's
bonds,
they
won't
be
all
invested
right
away.
They'll
be
invested
over
a
period
of
six
or
seven
years,
and
so
the
web
page
will
show
all
the
different
projects
that
are
invested
in
as
the
funds
are
deployed,
and
we
are
also
creating
a
community
oversight
committee.
I
The
Commissioners
have
approved
a
resolution
creating
a
committee
and
then
so
the
committee
members
will
be
appointed
assuming
the
bonds
one
or
both
of
the
bonds
are
passed
in
November,
and
that
committee
will
not.
That
committee's
job
is
not
to
make
recommendations
on
how
the
funds
are
spent.
I
It's
simply
to
review
the
how
the
funds
are
spent
and
to
confirm
all
of
them
are
spent
consistent
with
the
purposes
outlined
in
the
bond
language,
all
right
and
finally,
I
think
this
is
our
last
slide
for
folks
who
would
like
to
get
more
information
on
the
bonds
they
can
go
to
the
Buncombe
County
website
and
click
on
2022
bonds
and
as
a
County
government.
I
The
County
government
itself
cannot
Advocate
to
vote
yes
or
no
on
the
bonds,
but
the
county
government's
job
is
to
basically
provide
clear,
factual
information
about
the
bonds.
So
folks
can
go
to
the
website
to
learn.
J
I
G
Weird
questions
I
have
one
question:
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
be
here
today,
I
recently
attended
a
County
Commission
meeting
where
there
was
a
presentation
from
Urban
three
articulating
concern
about
the
disproportionate
impact
of
property
taxes
on
our
historic
black
neighborhoods
and
Legacy
neighborhoods.
I
So
kind
of
a
separate
issue
from
the
bonds,
but
an
issue
that
really
we
are
very
interested
in
as
well
as
a
council
may
be
aware.
I
The
commission
appointed
ad
hoc
committee
to
look
at
the
whole
issue
of
the
revaluation
process
and
how
it
affects
you
know,
residents
in
the
community
and
to
make
sure
it's
being
done
in
the
most
accurate
way
possible,
consistent
with
the
state
laws
that
we
have
to
follow,
and
the
ad
hoc
committee
made
a
number
of
different
recommendations
back
to
the
County
Commission
about
ways
that
they
think
that
it
can
be
further
improved.
And
so
it's
an
issue.
We
are
very
interested
in.
I
We
really
appreciated
the
city
council,
working
with
the
County
Commission,
to
create
the
initial
tax
property
tax,
sort
of
abatement
process
or
homeowner
grant
program.
However,
you
want
to
call
it,
but
with
the
purpose
of
mitigating
how
property
taxes
affect
the
affordability
of
you
know
lower
and
moderate
income
homeowners
in
our
community.
So
we
think
that's
a
great
start,
but
we
think
there's
a
lot
else
that
we
can
do
as
well.
K
K
Just
you
know
we
we,
as
you
know,
have
limited
or
we
disallow
whole
house
short-term
rentals
with
part
of
it
being
that
we
believe
that
it
has
a
they
have
a
negative
effect
on
a
full
on
housing
on
housing,
availability
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
your
study
addressed
that
at
all,
and
if
that
your
your,
if
you're
rethinking
your
policy
yeah.
I
Short
answer
is,
is
no,
it
did
not.
You
know.
The
feasibility
study
was
really
kind
of
focused
on
you
know
the
whether
the
county
was
in
a
position
to
you
know
to
look
at
doing
a
bond
referendum
around
investments
in
affordable
housing
and
conservation
programs,
and
it
was
a
pretty
tight
timeline
timeline
from
like
last
November
when
we
started
thinking
about
it
or
just
having
this
conversation
with
trust
Republican,
it
had
to
be
decided
by
I
think
April
to
go
through
the
local
government
approval
process.
I
It
was
a
very
tight
time
frame,
so
we
were
sort
of
looking
at.
Is
that
even
possible
or
do
we
need
to
wait
for
2024?
So
it
was
really
kind
of
focused
on
that
set
of
issues,
but
I
mean
just
just
speaking
purely
as
one
member
of
the
County
Commission
I
mean
I
really
agree
with
the
concerns
that
you're
raising
and
I
think
that
I
think
the
process
where
that
can
be
addressed.
I
It's
not
through
this
Bond
referendum,
but
I
do
believe
it's
affecting
our
housing
market
in
a
significant
way
and
the
county
is
going
through
a
process
to
adopt
a
new
comprehensive
plan
which
is
really
like
really
looking
at
all
the
different
land
use
policies
in
the
county,
setting
goals
for
the
future,
around
growth
management
and
everything.
That's
related
to
that.
So
I
personally
I
do
believe
that
the
county
needs
to
look
at
the
policies
around
that
the
proliferation
of
it
has
just
been
sort
of.
You
know
incredible.
I
Over
the
last
couple
of
years
there
have
been
I,
think
I,
think
a
lot
of
the
members
of
council
and
your
staff
have
been
looking
at
these
issues
too.
There's
been
a
number
of
court
rulings
that
speak
to
this
issue.
We've
we've
been,
you
know,
really
concerned
that
they
might
be
tying
local
governments
hands
in
terms
of
what
policy
options
we
could
have
to
look
at
how
short-term
or
vacation
rentals
are
managed.
I
At
the
community
level
there
was
actually
a
school
of
government
webinar
last
week,
where
some
some
of
the
state
experts
on
this
went
through
it
I
actually
and
I,
attended
that
that
day-long
webinar
and
came
out
of
it
actually
quite
a
bit
more
encouraged
that
we
still
have
a
lot
more
options
as
local
communities
to
address
those
issues
through
land
use
policies.
Then
perhaps
some
were
concerned
we
might
have
in
light
of
some
of
the
recent
court
rulings
which
do
need
to
do
need
to
be
addressed.
G
G
I
I
share
your
concern.
Gwen
I.
Think
the
problem
for
me
is
that
when
we
have
residential
units
being
used
for
commercial
use,
that
we're
then
asking
the
community
to
support
affordable
housing
for
regular
people
and
I'd
like
to.
Hopefully
it
will
be
for
working
and
poor
people
who
live
and
work
here
and
make
this
place
special.
G
C
L
L
Just
the
rate
at
which
you
are
charging
at
this
problem
is
impressive
and
I
guess
this
is
this
the
first
affordable
housing
bond
that
the
county
has
taken
on
it
is
and
I'm
going
to
be,
supporting
it
personally,
because
I
think
it
is
imperative,
but
I
really
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
you
and
the
other
Commissioners
for
attacked,
helping
us
tackle
this
problem.
I
know
when
I
was
running
a
couple
years
ago.
It
was
a
lot
of
what
I
was
hearing
from
the
community.
L
I
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you,
I
appreciate
that
I've
been
I,
really
appreciated
the
you
know.
From
the
time
again,
this
kind
of
was
raised.
It's
just
an
idea
to
the
time
it
was
like
hey,
let's
really
look
at
getting
this
on
the
ballot
and
investing
in
it.
It
all
went
really
fast.
The
county
staff
did
a
great
job.
You
know
going
through
that
process.
I
Trust
Republic
land
really
helped
us
out
a
lot
too,
and
the
commission
yeah
I,
think
folks
just
realized
that
scale
of
this
problem
requires
us
to
to
do
more,
and
so
the
you
know
the
city
has
been
leading
on
this
issue
and
I
think
folks
are
realizing.
The
county
just
really
needs
to
up
its
game
on
it
too.
So
and.
L
I
do
I
want
to
support
this
conversation
around
concern
over
the
loss
of
units
to
short
term
I
know.
We
were
conversing
last
week
about
some
an
article
issued
in
the
paper
that
actually
had
an
incorrect
statistic
and
it
was
saying
about
8
200
units
in
Buncombe,
County
were
being
used
for
short-term
rental,
but
it
turns
out.
L
I
K
M
It
still
says:
Marathon
could
it's
it's
interesting,
that
you
have
fans
or
we
have
bands.
C
M
Actually
has
a
dual
role:
he
is
also
an
interim
assistant
city
manager
and
we
also
have
Todd
Justice
who's
here.
As
our
noise
administrator
I,
don't
know
if
you
all
have
met
him.
In
fact,
I
don't
think
I've
met
him
just.
M
B
You
I
appreciate
it
good
evening,
mayor
members
of
council.
I
am
here
in
my
development
services
hat
tonight
and
again,
I
want
to
thank
Todd
Justice
for
serving
the
role
of
noise
administrator
he's
also
our
compliance
coordinator.
So
he's
kind
of
managing
the
enforcement
functions
in
DSD
we're
going
to
cover
a
little
bit
of
background
information,
not
much.
We
all
live
this
together
a
year
ago,
so
we
know
most
of
the
background.
I
want.
B
Complaint
and
response
data
and
then
what's
working
well
and
what
have
been
some
of
our
challenges
and
we
we
start
with
kind
of
the
end
in
mind
and
the
key
takeaways
so
and
what
you'll
see
this
through
the
presentation.
But
generally
the
number
of
complaints
has
remained
consistent
with
the
previous
five
years.
B
It's
part
of
reimagining
Public
Safety,
the
noise
ordinance
enforcement
was
shifted
from
APD
to
DSD.
That's
not
entirely,
but
that's
primarily
DSD
administers
that
ordinance.
Now
I'll
explain
this
a
little
more,
but
in
the
past
year
DSD
has
been
able
to
close
about
71
percent
of
the
noise
complaints.
B
We
still
rely
on
our
partners
in
APD
to
help
with
after
hours,
complaints
and
sometimes
complaints
that
require
that
may
be
associated
with
illegal
activities.
We've
had
good
success,
I
believe
in
reducing
chronic
complaints
and
violations.
I
think
parts
of
the
ordinance
help
with
that
the
objectivity
of
it
as
well
as
some
of
the
staff
Outreach
we've
been
able
to
do
the
past
year.
B
Then
there
are
some
challenges
and
I'll
talk
about
this
more
but
and
I
want
to
be
clear
that
there's
oftentimes,
that
a
business
can
comply
with
the
decibel
standards,
but
we
still
continue
to
get
complaints
about
that.
So
again,
I'm
going
to
show
you
a
lot
of
complaint
data
tonight.
Complaint
data
doesn't
necessarily
mean
there's
an
issue
with
the
ordinance.
It
just
means
that
we're
getting
complaints
about
a
sound
generation
and
finally
there
are
subjective
noise
standards
and
they've
been
challenging.
B
The
downtown
area
for
us
and
I'll
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
so
we'll
kind
of
Dive
Right
In.
You
remember
this.
Probably
we
started
in
2019
we
had
covet
in
the
middle
of
it.
Did
a
lot
of
stakeholder
engagement
finally
had
the
ordinance
adopted
in
2021
with
an
effective
date
of
September
15th,
so
the
data
I'm
going
to
show
you
tonight
is
going
to
really
be
from
September
to
August.
So
the
data
ranges
are
going
to
reflect
the
past
year
that
we've
worked
under
the
ordinance
we've
hired
staff.
B
We've
appointed
a
noise
Advisory
Board
we've
got
a
dashboard,
that's
up
and
I'll
have
a
link
to
that.
In
the
presentation
for
the
public,
so
you
can
kind
of
track.
This
live
how
we're
doing
and,
of
course,
we've
overall
launched
the
compliance
section
it
used
to
be
so
in
2019,
when
somebody
had
a
noise
complaint,
they
called
the
non-emergency
line.
99.9
of
noise
complaints
went
through
that
line,
APD
responded
and
what
we've
been
able
to
do
I
think
is.
We
have
multiple
ways
to
file
complaints.
Now
we
all
track
those
complaints.
B
We
take
a
data-driven
process
to
try
to
respond.
We
investigate
every
complaint,
it
doesn't
always
feel
like,
but
every
complaint
that
comes
in
all
1600
are
looked
at
and
investigated
as
best
we
can.
But
then,
of
course,
we
we
share
all
our
data,
our
reports,
our
noise,
our
decimal
readings,
all
that
is
available
publicly
online
and
the
links
are
in
this
in
this
presentation
on
this
slide.
B
So
here's
a
five-year
rolling
window
of
noise
complaint
September
to
August,
because
that's
our
window.
You
can
see
this
past
this
first
year
of
the
new
ordinance
we
had
just
over
1600
complaints
relatively
consistent
with
the
previous
four
years.
I'll
give
a
little
bit
of
an
explanation.
Actually,
I
think
that
the
past
year
was
probably
lower,
but
in
September
and
October,
when
we
first
rolled
this
ordinance
out,
we
got
a
ton
of
complaints,
a
lot
of
interest,
I
think
that
was
just
an
increased
awareness
by
the
community.
B
For
example,
last
September
we
got
to
close
to
200
complaints,
I
think
this
September,
we'll
probably
get
about
140.
so
again,
I
think
September
and
October
last
year
may
have
been
a
little
artificially
High.
Just
given
some
of
the
awareness
that
existed
Toms,
you
know
this
most,
the
city
gets
noisy
at
about
9
P.M
tapers
off
until
about
midnight.
So
again
those
are
our
busiest
times
in
terms
of
complaints.
So
when
it
requires
immediate
response,
we
still
rely
on
our
APD
Partners
For
That
complaints
about
type
one
thing
that
we've
started
tracking.
B
This
doesn't
exist
in
previous
data,
but
we
actually
tracked
the
type
of
noise
complaint.
What
is
the
the
source
of
the
noise
and
there's
actually
nine
other
sources
that
you
don't
see
there?
There
was
going
to
be
too
many
bars
on
this
graph,
so
we've
showed
you
I
think
that's
the
top
seven
or
eight
complaint
types,
but
there's
nine
others
that
are
lumped
into
other
source,
so
there's
actually
more
robust
data.
Others
are
like
trash
pickup
or
things
of
that
nature.
B
But,
as
we've
always
said,
the
number
one
source
of
complaints
is
kind
of
residential
neighbor
to
neighbor.
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
we're
handling
those
and,
of
course,
that's
followed
up
really
by
complaints
from
sound
generated
by
business
operations
Again
by
Source.
We'll
talk
about
the
role
of
APD
in
a
second,
but
again
again,
two
year
in
19
and
2019.
Basically,
100
of
noise
complaints
came
through
the
non-emergency
line.
You
can
see.
B
We've
got
a
lot
of
our
residents
now
that
either
use
direct
email
and
what
jock
form
means
is
that's
the
online
Complaint
Form.
So
it's
actually
pretty
interesting
because
you
can
go
to
the
city's
website
and
it
kind
of
guides
you
through
the
complaint
process,
to
get
us
enough
information
to
respond.
So
we've
got
a
lot
of
different
ways
that
we
can
get
complaints.
Now
we
did
a
little
bit
of
mapping
on
geography.
This
is
this
is
always
I
found
this
very
interesting.
These
are
census
block
groups.
B
These
are
all
of
Asheville
census,
block
groups,
the
the
map
on
the
left
that
says
2019
again,
that's
September,
8,
September,
2018,
August
2019,
that's
the
last
full
year,
the
APD
handled
the
noise
ordinance.
So
that's
really
a
reflection
of
really
APD
APD
receiving
all
the
complaints.
The
middle
map
is
September
20
to
August
21,
that's
really
the
year
that
we
were
finalizing.
The
noise
ordinance,
so
APD
was
still
the
primary,
but
DSD
was
working
on
the
noise
ordinance
and
beginning
to
be
evolved
and
the
map
on
the
right
21
to
20.
B
two
is
this
past
year
and
that's
really
with
DSD
being
the
primary
administrator
of
the
noise
ordinance.
What
I'll?
What
I'll
one
just
small
observation,
I
think
you
can
see
is
the
is
the
noise.
The
concentration
of
complaints
really
continues
to
focus
on
downtown
I
mean
downtown,
is
always
our
busiest
and
probably
noisiest,
place
and
I.
Think
you
really
can
see
this
in
this
map.
B
That
continues
to
be
the
case
in
our
in
our
our
complaints
really
do
concentrate
in
areas
where
there's
greater
density-
and
this
is
kind
of
a
table
of
that
these
are
the
eight
noisiest
census
blot
groups
in
the
city
of
Asheville.
So
these
these
eight
census
block
groups
comprise
over
40
percent
of
the
total
noise
complaints.
We
spend
a
lot
of
time
in
these
block
groups,
rather
than
use
the
the
census
number.
B
We
try
to
put
some
neighborhoods
in
these
to
give
some
context
and
again
the
column
on
the
left
is
last
year
of
APD.
Doing
all
this,
the
column
on
the
far
right
is
DSD
and
APD
doing
this.
Those
are
probably
the
best
two
to
look
at,
because
the
one
in
the
middle
has
some
some
covet
influence
in
it.
So.
O
Can
I
stop
you
right
here?
Sorry,
this
internet,
sorry
about
Bobby,
but
since
this
one
is
up
this
time,
I
guess
a
little
over
a
little
more
than
this
time.
O
So
while
it
appeared
that
well,
at
least
in
the
public,
it
became
a
discussion
of
music,
but
what
was
actually
happening
was
black
and
brown
neighborhoods
were
requesting
help
and
when
I
look
at
this,
it
looks
like
for
the
most
part.
There
has
been
some
success.
Is
that
how
you
read
that.
B
It
is
how
I
read
that,
yes,
okay,
it's
I'll,
just
I,
appreciate
those
comments
and
I'll
elaborate
a
little
bit.
I!
Think
what
you
see
in
this
is
and
we'll
talk
about.
This,
give
a
lot
of
credit
to
Daniel
or
a
peso
he's
our
compliance
officer.
He
spends
a
lot
of
time
trying
to
work
with
residential
neighborhoods,
particularly
in
these
census.
Block
groups
and
I.
Do
think
that
you
can
see
that
we've
we've
made
some
progress
in
Partnership,
trying
to
be
responsive
to
the
noise
concerns
that
exist
in
some
of
these
multi-family
developments
and
I.
B
Think
you
can
see
those
it's
interesting
where
you
see,
for
example,
South
slope,
Lee,
Walker,
Heights,
that's
a
really
low
number
in
2018-19
I
think
that's
actually
reflective
of
when
they
were
preparing
to
rebuild
Lee,
Walker
Heights,
and
so
that
skews
a
little
bit.
Another
thing
I
would
probably
Point
your
attention
to.
Is
you
see
the
mod
for
the
two
references
to
Montford
I,
actually
think
we've
made
made
good
progress
with
the
residential
noise
complaints
in
those
areas,
but
we've
seen
an
increase
in
commercial
noise.
Business
related
noise
complaints
in
this
area.
B
So
when
you
really
get
into
the
data
I
think
we've
had
some
success,
working
with
our
residential
communities
and
I'm
talking
a
little
bit
about
more
about
that
in
a
second
but
and
of
course,
downtown's
always
busy
and
noisy
another
another
thing
that
we
do,
that
that's
really
interesting
I
think
is
we
we've
created
closure
code.
So
every
time
we
get
a
noise
complaint.
B
Minutes
up,
does
that
mean
I'm
going
too
long,
Maggie,
I,
guess,
I'm.
Sorry,
the
closure
code
there's,
and
actually
there
are
nine
more
of
these
as
well.
So
this
is
a
really
robust
list.
So
when
you
see
other
that
includes
nine
other
types
of
closure
codes,
these
are
just
the
seven
or
eight
ones.
We
use
the
most.
A
noise
complaint
closure
code
can
change
over
time,
but
what
we
do
is
we
kind
of
track
the
disposition
of
every
note.
So
this
this
includes
1672
noise
complaints.
B
We
track
the
disposition
of
each
one
and
you
can
kind
of
see
again
our
performance,
real,
quick.
You
see
APD
handled
and
handled
by
APD
in
the
field.
We
still
have
a
great
partnership
with
APD
a
lot
of
times.
They'll
just
go
solve
the
problem.
We
get
that
information,
we
track
it.
Sometimes
we
find
that
noise
complaints
actually
aren't
just
noise
or
maybe
illegal
activities
or
alcohol
or
other
things
happening,
and
we
refer
the
law
enforcement
agency
to
handle
that.
M
And
and
then,
if
I
could
interject
I
think
that's
what
we
were
hearing
from
Miss
Mosley
in
terms
of
the
help?
It's
not
just
noise,
but
it's
some
of
the
other
behavior
that
accompanied
stories.
B
Role
of
APD
real
quick
is,
as
we
all
know,
this
is
part
of
reimagining
Public
Safety
in
one
of
our
one
of
our
goals,
one
of
our
many
goals
was
to
try
to
partner
with
APD
and
reduce
their
need
to
respond
to
some
of
these
nuisance
type.
Calls
and
I
think
we've
done
a
good
job
in
year.
B
One
we'll
have
to
see
how
that
works
over
as
we
get
more
years
under
our
belt,
we'll
see
what
what
this
really
looks
like,
but
right
now,
DSC
is
closing
about
71
of
all
the
noise
complaints
that
come
in
APD
closes
about
29
percent.
Some
of
those
were
things
that
APD
can
handle.
Some
of
those
are
actually
law
enforcement,
illegal
activities.
B
The
last
couple
slides
what's
working
well
out
of
this,
what
what
do
we
think
is
actually
working
as
planned,
I
think
giving
people
different
ways
to
access
the
ways,
complaints,
using
data
to
try
to
find
Trends
or
chronic
issues
and
and
be
more
strategic
in
our
follow-up.
We
think
that's
working
really!
B
Well,
we
think
compliance
from
the
business
Community
has
worked
extremely
well
having
the
objective
standards,
pretty
easy,
you
go
out
there,
you
measure
it
and
then
they
make
adjustments
to
meet
that,
and
that's
almost
always
how
that
works
doesn't
mean
everybody's
happy
with
it,
because
it's
still,
you
know
once,
but
we
can
usually
get
businesses
in
compliance
with
with
the
decibel
levels
of
sound
exceedance
permits
again
not
everybody's
happy
with
the
decibel
levels,
but
they've
worked
really
well
as
a
tool
for
compliance.
We
get
great
cooperation
with
that
permit
process.
B
I.
Think
we've
done
a
lot
of
Outreach
and
education
and
to
councilman
Mosley.
Mosley's
kind
of
point
is
when
we
do
have
noise
issues
there,
we're
able
to
understand
and
respond
better.
We've
established
a
relationships
with
64
apartment
complexes
in
Asheville,
we've
had
meetings,
in-person
meetings
with
46
apartment
complexes
in
the
property
managers,
so
we
are
touching
in
person
most
of
these
apartment
developments
or
multi-family
developments,
and
that
relationship
helps
us
work
with
them
directly
to
respond
to
noise
issues
and
finally,
objective
standards
are
pretty
title
to
you.
B
This
objective
standards
are
really
easy
to
enforce,
and
so
we've
done
well
with
those
I
think
some
of
our
challenges
is
is
just
and
I'll
start
with
the
public
expectation
of
Staff
availability
and
response.
We're
not
24
7
we're
not
on
call
we're
DSD.
We
do
a
lot
of
great
work
from
the
computer,
we
do
respond,
we
do
take
measurements,
but
again
it's
just
shifting
the
public
expectation
of
what
response
looks
like
under
this
new
program.
B
We
do
investigate
every
complaint,
every
one
of
them
they're,
just
not
always
a
violation
and
then,
of
course,
we
have
complaints
of
a
criminal
nature
that
we
have.
We
take
as
a
noise
complaint,
but
we've
got
to
work
with
our
law
enforcement
Partners
to
kind
of
move,
those
into
a
different,
different
type
of
response.
B
Compliance
with
ordinance,
we've
struggled,
admittedly
with
downtown
amplification.
We
have
a
subjective
standard
for
amplification
that
occurs
in
public
space.
Most
individuals
will
comply
if
we
ask
them
to
turn
it
down
some
some
won't
they
don't
it's
very
difficult
again
we're
not
law
enforcement,
so
those
can
be
challenging
situations
and
then
motor
vehicle
violations.
B
B
So
next
steps
for
us
is
we're
going
to
continue
to
assess
the
effectiveness
of
this
ordinance
and
program.
We're
going
to
continue
with
our
education
and
Outreach
efforts,
for
example
like
motor
vehicle
noise,
there's
some
other
communities
that
are
doing
some
Outreach
and
signage
and
things
to
try
to
help
with
that.
We
want
to
explore
that
and
then
we're
going
to
try
to
develop
some
targeted
enforcement
strategies
for
the
areas
where
we
need
to
make
Improvement.
Then
we'll
work
with
our
noise
Advisory
Board
to
develop,
recommended
changes
to
the
current
standards.
B
A
A
So
when
we
adopted
the
revisions
of
the
noise
ordinance,
it
was
packed
house
and
we
had
a
lot
of
folks
from
the
music
and
Community
from
and
I'm
just
wondering
what
the
feedback
has
been
there.
If
it's
been
where
we're
sitting
we're
not
hearing
complaints
about
this
so
but
maybe
you're
having
a
different
experience,
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
how
that's
been
working
out.
B
I
think
it's
it's
worked.
Well,
you
know.
We've
we've
actually
made
a
lot
of
relationships
with
with
the
music
venues
and
operators,
and
it's
we've
made
ourselves
available.
We
do
proactive
readings.
We
share
that
data
with
with
the
music
industry
I
find
that
they're
always
more
than
willing
to
adjust
as
needed
to
meet
the
requirements.
So
they've
been
easy
to
work
with
an
acknowledgment
of
the
residents.
B
You
know
that
still
doesn't
mean
that
there
are
residents
that
hear
music
and
probably
are
frustrated
with
the
decibel
limits,
and
maybe
there's
space
there
to
continue
to
to
work
with
music
venues
to
to
maybe
maybe
they
can
mitigate,
because
they
have
options
to
do
that,
not
just
because
the
ordinance
says
they
do
and
I
guess
that's.
The
next
place
we
want
to
explore
is
your
ordinance
compliance
but
compliant.
But
what
else
can
you
do
to
further
mitigate
the
sound
impact
and
so
far
they've
been
easy
to
work
with.
G
G
The
way
that
sound
travels
across
the
river,
the
way
that
sound
bounces
around
buildings,
it's
amazing
I
wanted
to
take
an
opportunity
to
say
thank
you
to
anyone
from
the
noise
Advisory
Board
who's
watching
this
meeting,
because
it's
been
a
big
heavy,
lift
to
ask
folks
to
volunteer
to
do
that.
Work,
I've
been
I've,
appreciated,
watching
those
meetings
and
watching
you
all
go
through
those
challenges.
Together.
G
The
commercial
and
Industrial
districts
of
budding
residential
districts
does
seem
to
be
where
we
have
like
a
challenge
that
needs
still
to
be
addressed
when
it
goes
to
those
buckets
of
the
residential
complaints.
The
three
buckets
that
I
hear
the
most
are
construction.
It
seems
for
some
folks,
like
it's
constant,
HVAC
air
conditioning
units.
G
It
can
be
schools
even
and
then
the
third
one
has
been
music
and
that
folks,
who
are
close
to
a
lot
of
resources,
also
are
close
to
a
lot
of
the
sound
of
hustle
and
bustle
and
cultural
experience.
G
So
I
guess
that's
that's
the
area
where
I'm
curious,
especially
with
the
construction
noise,
the
times
of
day
that
construction
can
happen,
the
HVAC
units.
What
can
be
done
to
reflect
those
noises
of
HVAC
units
back
to
the
facility
and
then
what
can?
What
is
being
done
with
those
relationships
that
are
being
established
not
just
with
the
venues,
but
also
with
the
neighborhoods,
so
that
there's
good
communication
flow
and
expectations.
B
G
C
B
Venues,
noise
makers,
they
can
get
into
compliance,
but
I
still
think
that
that
leaves
residents,
particularly
ones
that
are
really
close
by
frustrated.
That
I.
Don't
know
that
I
know
the
answer
today,
but
I
do
think.
That
would
be
a
great
place
for
the
noise
Advisory
Board
to
have
to
help
with
that,
and
that's
where
you
know
again,
we
may
have
to
just
have
some
creative
creative
ways,
maybe
gods
or
maybe
like
best
practices
in
some
instances
to
help
these
adjoining
businesses
comply
or
at
least
be
a
better
neighbor.
L
Quick
question-
and
this
may
be
I'm-
not
sure
if
you
will
know
Ben
but
I
know
with
the
motor
vehicle
violations.
That's
the
one
I'm
continuing
to
hear
a
lot
about
in
downtown
the
loud
Vehicles
racing
by
and
I.
Imagine,
even
if
you
were
an
officer
on
the
street,
it's
hard
to
catch
them.
It
just
is
a
fleeting
moment.
We
were
if
I
understand.
Probably
we
were
going
to
post
some
signs
about
the
no
jake
braking.
You
know
air
brakes
et
cetera.
Have
we
been
able
to
implement
the
signage
yet
a
year
later,.
B
We
we
have
not.
We
have
the
authority
to
post
those
signs.
What
we
have
to
do
is
do
a
traffic
do
like
a
study
or
analysis
before
we
can
do
that,
and
so
that's
just
that's
just
an
area
we
haven't
had
a
chance
to
to
partner
with
other
departments,
to
work
on
yeah
I
will
say:
I
know
that
the
downtown
we
get
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
complaints
about
loud
vehicles
and
Equipment.
B
Of
course,
again
you
know,
DSD
is
not
able
to
make
vehicle
stops,
but
one
thing-
and
this
is
the
recommendation
from
a
resident
but
Greenville
South
Carolina
apparently
has
started
their
robust
program
to
try
to
lessen
and
reduce
vehicle
noise
in
their
downtown,
and
we
are
I
know
Daniel's
in
contact
with
with
the
with
the
folks
in
Greenville
to
try
to
see
what
they're
doing
and
see
if
some
of
that
can
be
transferable
to
Asheville,
okay,
but
you
know
the
Jake
breaking
we
can
do
that.
B
L
I
think
staff
begin
to
look
at
budgets
in
October
November,
so
once
again,
I'm
going
to
a
plug
that
we
need
to
update
our
design
guidelines
for
the
downtown
area
and
the
riverfront,
because
some
of
these
things
that
North
Mark,
not
North,
Market
right
across
from
rabbit
rabbit
that
one
street
the
Aston
building
had
so
much
noise
and
I
always
noticed
that
there
were
no
Street
trees
between
the
event
venue
and
the
complex
and
that's
something
that's
on
us.
Street,
trees
and
I.
F
B
A
Okay,
thank
you
Ben
before
we
go
on
WE
meant
to
do
this
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting,
but
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
pending
hurricane
that
is
possibly
going
to
be
affecting
Asheville
over
this
weekend,
so
just
very
quickly.
A
Just
so.
The
folks
are
aware
that
we
are
expecting
heavy
rain
and
high
winds,
Friday
and
Saturday
I
know.
Probably
a
lot
of
you
are
tracking
this.
This
is
pretty
much
all
my
husband
has
been
talking
about
this
week,
and-
and
just
so
you
know,
the
city
is
tracking
it
as
well.
A
Staff
is
working
on
this
and
coordinating
our
emergency
response,
but
if,
if
anybody
wants
to
follow
along,
you
can
go
to
our
website
the
Asheville
nc.gov
website
and
and
sign
up
to
get
alerts
or
follow
any
of
the
social
media
feeds
of
our
fire
department.
So
you
can
get
your
updates
that
way
as
well,
and
we
are
thinking
about
our
friends
in
Florida
and
in
the
islands
who
are
already
hit.
A
We've
been
there
before.
We
know
what
it's
like,
so
we're
hoping
for
the
best
for
for
everyone
in
the
path
of
this
hurricane.
A
Okay,
we're
going
to
now
move
to
our
public
hearings
portion
of
our
agenda.
We
have
one
item
that
has
two
parts
and
this
is
the
650
Caribou
Road
Laurelwood
two,
so
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna,
hear
about
I,
think
both
parts
undo
our
public
hearing
for
both
and
but
then
we'll
be
voting.
We'll
have
two
different
motions
on
this,
so
Sasha
you're
standing
in
front
of
me,
but
I
see
that
we
have
Kevin
Lynn.
Speaking
on
this
item,
are
you
doing
introductions.
D
P
You
we're
looking
forward
to
presenting
this
project.
I
think
it'll
be
a
very
successful
project
in
terms
of
both
maintaining
the
affordable
units
that
artery
exists
on
the
site,
as
well
as
the
creation
of
new.
P
Units
so
the
name
of
the
project
is
Laurelwood
Apartments,
it's
650,
Caribou
Road,
the
developer
is
Volunteers
of
America,
which
is
success,
is
successful,
affordable
housing
developer
throughout
the
United
States
and
I've
worked
with
Volunteers
of
America
in
Detroit,
as
well
as
in
Chicago
unsuccessful
projects
in
those
cities,
VOA
is
requesting
a
million
point,
five
for
a
low
income,
housing
tax
credit
project
at
650,
Caribou
Road
and
is
requesting
terms
with
two
percent
interest,
with
interest
and
principal
payments
deferred
for
a
period
of
30
years,
and
that
loan
from
the
city
of
Asheville,
Housing,
Trust
Fund,
will
be
secured
with
a
date
of
trust.
P
The
project
will
be
100,
affordable
with
54
new
units
created
and
51
existing
units
for
a
total
of
105
units
plus,
which
includes
a
property
manager
unit.
In
the
existing
units,
the
units
will
serve
a
mix
of
incomes
at
80
of
the
area,
median
income,
all
the
way
down
to
40
percent
of
it
area.
Median
income
in
the
existing
51
units
actually
has
a
HUD
housing
assistance
payment
contract
on
it.
P
So
the
folks
who
are
are
currently
living
in
the
existing
units
are
only
paying
30
percent
of
their
reported
incomes
as
their
rents.
The
developer
has
communicated
and
engaged
with
the
Schaller
neighborhood
and
has
made
adjustments
to
their
development
plans
and
their
site
plans,
specifically
in
response
to
the
feedback
received.
P
P
So
since
the
site
is
approximately
134,
Acres
Volunteers
of
America
has
volunteered
to
move
the
construction
of
their
new
building
off
of
the
Main
Street
and
staff
is
tonight
recommending
approval
by
city
council,
the
Lord
would
a
partnering
project
will
build
54,
new,
affordable
rental
apartments
and
renovate
51
existing
units
in
the
Shiloh
neighborhood,
and
one
of
the
existing
units
is
for
the
property
manager.
P
P
The
existing
units
currently
serve
household
age,
62
Plus,
so
there
will
be
an
expansion
of
the
quote-unquote
elderly,
households
available
or
elderly
households
who
will
be
able
to
live
within
a
little
Wood
Apartments
post
Rehabilitation
of
the
existing
units
and
construction
of
the
new
units
Volunteers
of
America
is
requesting
of
a
loan
Housing
Trust
Fund
loan
of
1.5
million
dollars
with
two
percent
interest,
which
will
be
deferred
for
a
period
of
30
years.
It's
occur,
secured
with
the
deed
of
trust.
P
Approximately
2.7
million
dollars
in
principle
and
interest
would
be
due
at
maturity
and
the
affordability
period
will
be
in
perpetuity
in
order
to
comply
with
the
low-income
housing
tax
credit
award.
That
Volunteers
of
America
is
pursuing,
as
well
as
just
the
general
policy
of
Volunteers
of
America
itself,
which
is
not
in
the
business
of
converting,
affordable
units
to
market
rate
units
by
keeping
units
affordable
throughout
the
useful
lifetime
of
the
of
the
projects
that
they
do.
P
Actually,
the
rents
are
not
elicit
on
this,
but
this
is
the
red
schedule
showing
the
number
of
one
bedroom
units
versus
the
two
bedroom
units,
the
sizes
of
the
units.
The
two
bedroom
units
will
actually
have
two
baths
in
them
and
will
serve
and,
as
you
can
see
in
the
column,
all
the
way
to
the
right,
we'll
have
units
serving
people
at
40
of
Ami
50
of
Ami.
Sixty
percent
of
Ami
and
80
of
Ami.
P
The
sources
of
financing
include
the
first
permanent
Mortgage
in
the
amount
of
8.3
million.
At
this
time.
It
is
a
forecasted
that
that
mortgage
will
come
from
Boston
Capital.
The
second
mortgage
and
second
lien
Position
will
be
held
by
the
city
of
Asheville
through
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
at
1.5
million,
as
stated
before,
it'll
be
a
30-year
term
with
the
two
percent
interest
deferred
until
maturity
there'll
be
a
third
mortgage
from
Buncombe
County.
P
In
the
amount
of
eight
hundred
thousand,
there
will
be
a
low
income,
housing,
syndication
proceeds
or
equity
in
the
amount
of
8.8
million,
and
this
money
will
be
important
in
that
it
will
require
that
the
project,
as
long
as
it
is
not
redeveloped
in
the
future,
that
low-income
affordability,
compliance
would
be
in
perpetuity
there'll
be
a
seller.
Note
from
Volunteers
of
America
itself
are
currently
proposed.
P
Be
a
deferred
developer
fee
as
well
of
approximately
560
000.
That's
approximately
forty
percent
of
the
the
developer
fee
that
the
file
chosen
of
America
will
do
but
will
earned
by
pursuing
this
project.
As
you
can
see
from
the
column
to
the
right,
the
Asheville
Housing
Trust
Fund
mortgage
comprises
approximately
6.6
percent
of
the
total
development
costs
of
22.7
million.
P
P
The
affordability
period
will
be
in
perpetuity
and
under
the
current
proposal
for
for
the
1.5
million,
the
subsidy
is
27
000
per
unit.
If
counting
only
the
new
construction
units,
the
subsidy
is
14
about
Fourteen
and
a
half
thousand
units.
If
counting
all
104
units,
the
city's
portion
of
the
total
development
costs
represents
6.6
percent,
which
is
a
good
leverage
of
City
dollars
and
that
loan
maturity,
repayments
of
funds.
P
P
In
the
average
income
of
residents
is
60
of
Ami
complying
with
the
north
North
Carolina
Housing
Finance
Agency
guidelines
there's
an
exception.
The
updated
request
is
over
the
one
million
Housing
Trust
Fund
policy
cap,
but
some
unforeseen
project
costs
have
Arisen,
because
Volunteers
of
America
has
agreed
in
communication
with
the
neighborhood
to
move
their
new
construction
portion
onto
a
part
of
their
property,
which
is
quite
hilly.
P
So
the
Housing
and
Community
Development
Committee
review
the
request
on
Tuesday
September
20th
and
voted
three
nil
in
favor
of
the
housing
Housing
Trust
fund
request
staff
recommends
approval
based
on
the
following
there'll,
be
refurbishment
of
an
existing
51
unit,
senior
affordable
housing
facility
which
currently
serves
households,
age,
55
and
over
but
after
I'm
sorry
currently
serves
households,
age,
62
and
older,
and
will
serve
households
to
age,
55
and
older
after
construction
that
has
operated
successfully
for
approximately
three
decades.
There
will
be
a
construction
of
54
new,
affordable
units.
P
There
will
be
a
set
aside
of
six
new
I'm,
sorry
of
12
new
construction
units
for
housing,
Choice,
voucher
holders,
legal
requested
city
of
Asheville
Housing
Trust
Fund
loan
will
comprise
6.6
of
the
total
development
costs.
Volunteers
of
America
is
a
long-standing,
affordable
housing
owner
operated
in
our
community
with
a
proven
track
record.
P
Volunteers
of
America
is
requesting
1.5
million
for
a
low
income
housing
tax
credit
project
at
650,
Caribou
Road
Volunteers
of
America,
is
requesting,
along
with
the
two
two
percent
interest,
which
will
be
deferred
for
a
period
of
30
years
and
secured
with
the
deed
of
trust.
The
project
is
100,
affordable
with
54
new
units
and
51
existing
units
for
a
total
of
105
units,
plus,
which
includes
a
property
manager
unit
with
a
mix
of
incomes
at
80
percent
of
area,
median
income,
all
the
way
down
to
40
percent
of
area
median
income.
P
L
L
G
I
have
some
questions
and
it
may
be
for
you
Kevin
nice,
to
meet
you
and
see
you
in
person,
but
it
may
also
be
helpful
to
hear
from
the
hcd
members,
so
I'm,
counting
60
units
that
are
not
eligible
for
vouchers
and
I
know
that
we
have
so
many
people
in
our
community
who
need
access
to
this
housing.
G
There's
so
much
to
support
in
this
project
and
I
certainly
don't
think
it's
the
intention
of
Volunteers
of
America
to
discriminate
against
someone
based
on
how
they
pay
their
rent,
but
I
wonder
why
we
would
not
suggest
to
not
exclude
folks.
Is
it
possible
to
get
more
vouchers
because
it
automatically
pays
the
rent
for.
P
G
And
what
would
it
look
like
to
see
a
commitment
to
100
vouchers,
I
think
for
60
am
I
and
below
that
would
be
60
more
voucher,
accepting
units
that
aren't
currently
designated
as
such
well.
L
In
councilmani,
what
this
is
making
me
wonder
is,
if
you
know
we
hear
so
much.
We
have
the
Bowen
report
every
couple
years,
and
we
hear
so
much
about
the
voucher.
Need
is
the
one
bedroom
but
I
don't
often
hear
it
in
any
additional
demographic
information,
for
instance,
do
we
know
if
we
have
a
large
population
of
seniors
with
vouchers
in
hand,
I,
don't
think
we
know
I've,
never
heard
it
broken
down
by
age
or
any
other
demographic.
Then
bedroom
need
you
know,
and
that
might
be
something
that
would
help
us
in
this
case.
G
Guess
the
question
for
me
is
also:
if
a
unit
is
not
accepting
vouchers
and
someone
who
has
a
voucher
couldn't
access
it,
but
if
it
is
accepting
vouchers,
someone
who
does
or
doesn't
have
a
voucher
could
access
it.
P
G
P
G
G
So
I
just
I'm
just
curious
when
we're
approaching
these
kinds
of
projects,
when
there's
so
many
positives,
are
we
asking
for
them
to
accept
more
vouchers,
except
especially
for
60
Ami
and
below.
P
I,
don't
know
what
drove
them
to
I
guess
to
make
their
application
more
attractive
to
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
policies.
They
said
we'll
do
12.,
but
we
certainly
could
ask
them
to
yeah.
L
This
is
an
example
of
our
policy,
which
again
hcd
hopes
to
bring
us
some
amendments
in
the
next
few
months,
but
this
is
an
example
of
they're
applying
for
what
the
policy
requires:
10
of
the
or
half
of
the
affordable
units
and
so
they're
meeting.
What
we
actually
require
to
your
point,
though,
is
that
enough
and
I
think
that's
a
broader
conversation
Beyond
this
just
one
project,
because
we
need
to
open
up
that
and
just
look
at
it
in.
O
I
find
that
we
don't
ask
other
Developers
to
even
when
they
say
they're
open
to
accepting
vouchers.
What
that
means,
isn't
necessarily
that
they're
setting
aside
those
vouchers
so
I'm,
very
hesitant
in
instances
where
we
have
a
developer,
giving
us
100
affordability
to
make
additional
requirements
on
them
that
we
don't
make
for
for-profit
developers
now.
Having
said
that,
I
would
love
for
everybody
to
take
vouchers
100
of
the
time,
because
we
do
have
another
municipality
that
has
sharpened
their
requirements.
And
again,
as
Sage
mentioned,
we
are
working
on
doing
that
in
hcd
as
well.
G
So
we
don't
also
don't
have
as
many
developments
that
are
asking
for
an
exception
to
our
rule
for
the
Housing
Trust
Fund.
So
that's
why
I
would
make
an
exception
in
this
project.
You.
L
Know
when
you
spoke
to
the
some
input
from
hcd
and
what
we've
been
talking
about
in
the
recent
meeting
was,
this
is
above
the
million
dollar
threshold.
Ask
and
many
of
them
lately
have
been,
which
begs
the
question:
is
the
policy
in
the
right
place
if
the
applications
are
always
asking
for
a
variance
from
it,
and
that's
partly
why
we
want
to
review
the
policy
so
I'm,
personally,
okay,
with
this
surpassing
the
limit?
A
R
Behind
you,
yeah
I'm,
with
Volunteers
of
America.
So
what
was
the
question
again
so.
G
The
question
for
me-
and
thank
you
for
being
here,
is
that
right
now,
there's
15
one
bedroom,
one
bath,
560
square
foot,
40
Ami,
proposed
units.
It
does
not
say
that
they
will
be
about
accepting.
The
same
is
for
the
35
one
bedroom.
It's
50
Ami,
two
at
60,
Ami,
900
square
feet
and
the
eight
sixty
percent
Ami
at
660
square
feet
for
a
total
of
660
units.
That
don't
say
they'll
accept
voucher.
So
though,
it's
not
our
policy
I
wonder
if
there
might
be
an
option
to
accept
more.
R
Vouchers
so
possibly
when
we
first
began
this
project,
but
right
now
we
have
the
commitments
for
these
number
of
units
with
the
capital
Stacks.
We
have
62
units
right
now
that
will
accept
vouchers
or
subsidies.
R
The
rest,
you
know
it's
an
expensive
project
to
build,
so
we
need
to
make
sure
that
the
financing
works,
and
this
is
the
way
we
had
to
you-
know
kind
of
work
out
the
numbers.
So
you
know
possibly
in
the
future,
but
right
now
we
cannot
accept
100
vouchers.
Okay,.
G
So
I
appreciate
that
and
for
just
for
the
public
benefit
that
we're
talking
about
and
a
unit
of
15
units
that
will
be
40
Ami
that
would
fit
within
the
vouchers
that
would
be
an
automatic
payment
of
rent,
so
I'm
just
curious
how
that
would
fit
into
going
to
the
bank
with
it,
but
obviously
that's
a
problem
with
our
policy
when
we
make
the
ask.
So
thank
you
for
being
here
to
answer
my
question.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
A
A
S
Need
like
walkout,
music
or
something
that's
right.
Oh
good
evening,
I'm
mayor
members
of
council
I
will
Palmquist
of
planning
Urban
Design
I'll,
be
giving
the
presentation
for
the
conditional
zoning
request
for
this
project.
Laurelwood
2
at
650,
Caribou
Road.
Here
you
can
see
the
existing
zoning,
residential,
multi-family,
medium
density
and
then
due
to
the
project
being
over
50
units
for
the
new
building.
A
conditional
zoning
to
the
residential
expansion
conditional
zone
is
required.
S
So
this
map
and
imagery
you
can
see
the
the
existing
Laurelwood
Building
located
here
and
then
across
Cable
Road
is
the
the
dawnwood
I
think
it's
condos
and
then
the
surrounding
single
family,
multi,
single
family,
neighborhood
of
Shiloh
and
then
other
industrial
uses
across
a
railroad
track
to
the
east
of
the
site.
S
And
then
this
is
the
overall
view.
The
site
plan
I
have
a
zoomed
in
view
I'll
flip
to
in
a
second,
but
just
to
kind
of
show
the
overall
size
of
the
site,
15
Acres,
the
existing
building
outline
in
this
light
gray,
color
the
proposed
building
to
the
north,
the
existing
parking
area
and
the
slider
color,
and
then
the
new
parking
area
outline
in
this
darker
black
line
just
give
a
little
bit
of
background.
S
The
original
design
of
the
project
did
have
the
new
building
kind
of
the
same
footprint
of
this
parking
lot
area
so
closer
to
camber,
Road
and
closer
to
other
neighboring
residences
to
the
South
and
after
getting
some
feedback
from
the
community.
At
the
first
review
of
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission,
the
project
team
went
back
and
redesigned
the
project
to
what's
what's
currently
proposed
today.
S
So
this
is
a
little
more
zoomed
in
view
of
the
site
plan
again
the
existing
building
located
here
and
the
new
building
located
here
to
the
north,
so
I
think.
As
Kevin
mentioned,
the
existing
building
is
two
stories
and
51
units
for
senior
living
and
the
new
building
is
three
stories
also
for
senior
living
and
100.
Affordable
access
to
the
site
is
with
the
existing
driveway
already
off
of
caribou
Road,
a
total
of
105
parking
spaces
will
be
provided
and
that'll
meet.
S
The
requirement
for
both
the
existing
and
the
proposed
buildings
and
a
new
sidewalks
will
be
installed.
A
five
foot
wide
sidewalk
with
a
five
foot,
wide
planting
strip
on
Caribou
Road
and
then
five
foot
wide
sidewalks
internal
to
the
site.
Other
standards,
such
as
landscaping
and
open
space
apply
just
gives
some
a
little
more
detail
on
that,
as
well
as
the
tree.
Canopy,
preservation
standards
and
the
project
is
surpassing
those
standards
by
by
quite
a
bit.
S
For
example,
the
open
space
is
required
at
a
rate
of
15
percent
and
which
would
equal
2.2
acres
and
the
projects
providing
almost
12
acres
of
open
space
and
the
tree.
Canopy
preservation
is
required
to
be
10
percent
of
the
existing
tree
canopy
and
they're,
preserving
almost
58.
So
just
some
more
information
on
that
some
elevations
of
the
proposed
building
kind
of
pretty
residential
in
character.
You
can
see
the
different
materials
proposed,
which
include
vinyl,
siding,
brick,
veneer
and
then
architectural
shingles
for
the
roof.
S
And
then
this
is
a
rendering
from
Caribou
Road
looking
into
the
site
supplied
by
the
applicant.
That
kind
of
shows
the
existing
building
to
the
right
in
the
proposed
building
in
a
transparent
to
the
to
the
left
here,
and
then
the
the
yellow
line
is
kind
of
the
ground
plane
of
of
the
existing
building.
S
That
kind
of
give
you
a
sense
of
where
the
new
building
will
sit
in
reference
to
the
existing
building
it'll
be
a
little
bit
lower
as
far
as
the
base
elevation
goes
and
pretty
well
screens
behind
behind
the
trees.
So
if
the
building
wasn't
superimposed,
you
really
wouldn't
see
it
at
all
in
this
drawing
but
kind
of
made
made
transparent
to
show
in
relation
how
it'll
appear
from
Caribou
Road.
S
There
are
a
few
conditions
with
the
project.
As
Kevin
outlined,
all
54
units
will
be
designated
affordable
and
you
can
see
the
different
breakdown
of
of
income
limits
for
those
units,
and
then
there
are
a
couple
of
technical
modifications
that
the
project
is
seeking
to
address
through
this
conditional
zoning
process,
the
first
of
which
is
regarding
the
sidewalks
where
residential
expansion
District
requires
10
foot
wide
sidewalks,
but
really
given
the
context
and
kind
of
background
and
setting
of
the
of
the
site.
S
Five
foot
wide
sidewalks
with
the
five
foot
wide
planting
strips
and
five
foot
wide
internal
sidewalks
are
being
proposed
and
then
also
that
no
bike
lanes
are
being
proposed
into
the
development
which
staff
finds
appropriate.
Given
that
there
are
no
bike
facilities
on
Caribou
Road
currently
and
then
the
review
process
for
this
project
I
began
with
an
approval
with
conditions
by
the
technical
Review
Committee
on
July
18th.
S
The
project
was
continued
at
the
September,
7th
or
sorry
August
3rd
planning
zoning
commission
meeting
to
give
the
project
team
time
to
kind
of
change
their
design
in
response
to
the
concerns
and
comments
from
the
neighborhood
and
property
owners
that
were
adjacent
to
the
site
and
then
finally
was
approved,
recommend
approval
at
the
special
September
21st
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
hearing
and
just
to
kind
of
summarize
here.
The
project
is
consistent
with
the
future
land
use
map
by
providing
mix
of
housing
types
along
with
other
uses
in
the
neighborhood.
S
So
therefore,
staff
concurs
with
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
and
recommends
approval
of
the
proposed
conditional
zoning.
That
includes
my
presentation.
We've
got
to
answer
any
questions
folks
might
have.
G
I'm
curious
about
that
when,
when
we
look
at
the
end,
tube
also
out
of
I
think
is
something
that
we
might
want
to
consider
for
future
technical
modifications.
I've
also
been
asking
every
single
Housing
Development
about
solar
and
when
one
of
the
reasons
for
this
is
neighborhood
resiliency,
if
there's
a
storm
and
the
power
is
out,
how
will
these
neighbors
have
access
to
their
basic
necessities?
What
does
it
look
like
to
reduce
energy
costs?
So
have
we
asked
the
developer
if
they
have
a
plan
to
install
solar.
S
I,
don't
recall
that
I
have
spoken
to
them
about
that
I,
don't
think
there
is
a
plan
for
such
but
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
positive.
What
their
long-term
outlook
on
that
could
be.
Okay,.
G
L
R
Sorry
good
evening
again,
so
at
the
moment
we
do
not
have
any
plans
for
solar.
It
is
a
cost
issue.
We
would
love
to
have
solar,
but
we
are
currently
working
with
Duke
Energy
Efficiency
design
assistance.
We
have
partnered
with
them
to
do
anything
that
we
can
within
the
budget
to
reduce
our
energy
use.
R
We
will
be
putting
in
new
windows
for
the
existing
building,
which
will
help
a
new
roof
repointing,
the
building.
So
things
of
that
nature.
We
are
maintaining
as
much
of
the
mature
trees
as
possible,
which
will
also
help
so.
G
I
appreciate
that,
so
we
have
a
stated
climate
emergency
here
in
Asheville
and
Buncombe
County
and
there's
no
way
we
can
meet
those
goals
by
ourselves
and
so
I
think
about
not
just
with
the
neighbors
who
live
here,
but
for
our
whole
Community
to
have
a
hopeful
future.
We
all
have
to
do
it.
We
can
so
that's
why
I'm
asking
every
housing
developer.
In
addition
to
the
points
around
neighborhood,
resiliency,
yeah.
R
We
would
love
to
it's
just
a
matter
of
finances.
It's
difficult
enough
just
to.
R
Right
and
we
are
thinking
as
that's,
why
we've
partnered
with
Duke
Energy
and
we
do
try
to
do
as
much
State
sustainable
materials
as
possible.
Thank.
L
A
Council
we
have
three
people
signed
up
to
four
people
signed
up
to
speak
under
this
item.
So
if
we're
ready,
I'm
gonna
call
on
those
who
signed
up
to
speak
and
the
first
is
Miss
Dixon
who
I
cannot
see,
but.
T
Good
afternoon
and
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
come
today,
you
know
I'm
from
shallow.
My
shirt
tells
you
that
we
have
a
couple
of
concerns
and
Norma
veins,
who
is
Al
liaison,
will
speak
to
most
of
them,
but
but
not
just
right
off.
The
bat
want
to
say
thank
you
to
your
staff.
They
have
just
been
great.
Sasha
has
listened
to
all
of
our
concern
and
tried
to
address
them.
T
The
couple
that
I
have
I
want
to
share
them
with
you
today,
and
that
is
that
we
are
a
single
residential
single
family
homes
and
we
are
hoping
that
this
is
not
going
to
open
the
door
when
we
start
talking
multi-family,
which
means
Apartments.
Probably
we
know
that
this
this
project
seems
like
it's
a
very
worthwhile
project,
because
it's
for
seniors
and
we
we
work
with
your
staff
and
they
told
us
that,
yes,
it's
going
to
still
be
for
seniors
and
I
hope.
It's
stay
for
seniors.
That's
another
concern.
T
I
have
we'll
talk
about
that
another
day,
but
I
think
that
that
that's
the
other
thing
and
it
keeps
talking
about
multi-family
and
to
me
when
I
think
most
your
family
I'm
thinking
family
is
more
than
one
person
in
an
apartment.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
with
this
that
our
2025
plan
says
that
we
that
our
area
is
designated
seamless,
RSA
single
family
homes,
so
just
kind
of
keep
that
out
in
front
of
us
and
I.
T
U
Good
evening
my
name
is
Norma
Baines
and
I'm.
This
the
liaison
got
a
shallow
Community
Association
to
The
Honorable,
mayor
mainhower
and
the
city
council.
The
shallow
Community
has
some
concerns
about
this
development.
We
are
happy
that
a
senior
family
homes
believe
me
because
being
a
senior
myself
I
know
how
it's
important
to
be
in
a
home
that
you
can
be
comfortable
in.
U
We
are
concerned
that
we
have
Dogwood
on
one
side
of
caribou
road
with
62
units
we
have
law
would
one
with
51
units,
and
now
there
will
be
another
development
with
54
units
making
a
whole
a
total
of
167
units
in
that
little
small
area.
As
you
know,
our
streets
are
narrow
and
we
appreciate
the
sidewalks,
but
where
are
the
sidewalks
going
because
they
cannot
go
far?
I
stay
on
Caribou,
Road
and
I
know
it's
hard
for
me
to
get
out
of
my
driveway
sometime.
U
So
do
you
think
of
a
hundred
and
sixty
seven
people
trying
to
get
out
on
it
and
some
on
each
side
on
Caribou
Road
in
the
mornings
going
to
work
or
coming
back?
That
will
be
a
straight
and
with
the
infrastructure
really
take
all
those
apartments
will
it
will
it
take
those
apartments
that
we
have
and
I'm
concerned,
because
the
city,
the
seniors
that
live
there
now
they
have
to
be
62
or
older,
but
it's
on
their
income,
and
now
this
is
changing
for
the
people
that
would
be
in
the
area
that
I
understand.
U
I
could
be
mistaken.
So
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
there
is
a
percentage
of
going
to
the
Ami
right,
what
they
make
and
what
they
have
to
pay.
So
we
would
like
to
keep
the
rate
the
way
it
is
for
the
seniors
according
to
the
income,
because
not
every
senior
have
the
same
income
just
like
everybody
else.
U
Also,
we
we
would
like
to
thank
the
Developers
for
moving
the
site
that
was
very
important
to
some
of
the
residents
that
the
site
the
room,
because
it
was
right
on
the
street,
and
that
was
not
good
at
all.
So
we
do
things
and
Developers
for
doing
that,
but
we
want
them
to
consider
our
seniors
sing
and
consider
how
much
it's
going
to
cost
for
them
to
live
in
these
buildings
and,
as
Sophie
has
said,
we
want
to
make
sure
it's
for
seniors
and
not
for
monthly
families.
U
A
Thank
you,
okay,
thank
you.
There
were
so
that
was
the
end
of
the
public
comment,
so
I'll
close
the
public
hearing,
but
there
were
a
couple
of
questions
that
were
raised
and
who
would
be
best
to
talk
about
the
age
restriction,
the
change
in
age
restriction?
How
long
is
the
age
restriction
in
place,
and
what
does
it
mean
when
we
talk
about
multi-family?
Does
that
mean
more
than
one
family
living
in
a
unit
or
as
I
understand
it?
It
means
it's
an
apartment,
that's
just
what
we
call
Apartments.
S
R
Hello
again
so
HUD
projects
have
to
be
62
and
up.
This
is
a
low-income
housing
tax
credit,
so
we
can
go
up
55
and
up
when
we
say
55
and
up
does
not
mean
that,
and
there
are
two
bedroom
units,
so
that's
either
for
a
caregiver
or
Senior
Communities
can
have
the
main
person,
who's,
55
and
a
spouse
that
could
be
under
55..
R
As
long
as
there's
one
resident,
that's
55.
I've
been
asked
before
too
about
children.
Children
are
a
protected
class
under
Fair
Housing,
but
for
in
1995
the
rules
changed
for
Senior
Communities.
So
you
cannot
have
children,
they
can
stay
overnight
and
I
believe
it
depends
on
the
community.
They
have
to
be
at
least
10
years
old
to
say
overnight
and
a
family
can
have
a
child,
that's
18
and
over
basically
adult
can
also
stay
with
them,
so
it
is
deed,
restricted,
so
that
site
will
always
be
for
seniors.
S
A
A
E
A
We
did
close
the
public
hearing,
okay,
so
Council.
If
there
aren't
any
other
questions
or
comments,
I'm
ready
to
entertain
a
motion,
and
we
need
two
because
there's
two
parts:
I.
G
Do
have
one
more
comment
before
we
move
forward
just
a
reminder,
because
I
sent
this
to
the
full
Council,
as
liaison
to
the
human
relations
commission,
and
this
is
separate
from
the
development
but
somewhat
related
around
a
source
of
income
discrimination.
L
That
is
something
we
plan
to
discuss
at
hcd
and
if
everyone's
ready
I'm
happy
to
make
a
motion,
please
yes,
okay,
on
the
first
one,
so
this
will
be
about
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
I
move
to
recommend
approving
the
volunteer
of
America's.
Excuse
me:
volunteer
of
America's
request
for
1.5
million
dollars
of
Housing
Trust
Fund
loan
to
construct
54
new,
affordable
apartments
and
rehabilitate
50,
affordable
existing
units
for
seniors.
L
A
K
Do
I
moved
to
approve
the
conditional
zoning
request
for
the
property
located
at
650
and
652
Caribou
Caribou
Road
from
residential
multi-family,
medium
density
to
residential
expansion,
conditional
Zone
and
find
that
the
request
is
reasonable
is
in
the
public
interest
is
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
and
meets
the
development
needs
of
the
community
in
that
the
request
one
prioritizes
greater
densities
of
development
overall
throughout
the
city
as
appropriate.
Two
increases
the
supply
of
affordable
housing
and
proximity
to
schools,
Transit
and
parks,
and
three
eliminates
gaps
in
the
city-wide
sidewalk
Network.
M
K
A
Any
opposed
okay!
Thank
you.
That
concludes
the
public
hearings
agenda.
We
have
one
item
of
unfinished
business
and
that's
a
resolution
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
enter
into
an
interlocal
agreement
with
the
Asheville
City
Board
of
Education
for
maintenance
of
donated
playground,
equipment
at
Jones,
Park
and
Brad
Branham,
our
City
attorney,
we'll
just
let
people
exit
on
this
one
for
just
a
second.
L
A
D
C
F
F
Am
your
City
attorney
tonight
I'm
going
to
be
presenting
a
proposed
interlocal
agreement
between
the
city
of
Asheville
and
Asheville
City
Board
of
Education
and,
as
you
have
become
recently
accustomed
to
seeing
I'd
like
to
start
with
some
key
takeaways,
which
I
think
accurately
summarize
the
primary
points
during
my
presentation
that
I'd,
like
you
to
focus
on
first
and
foremost,
the
center
local
agreement,
would
allow
for
the
construction
of
a
new
playground
at
the
property
commonly
known
as
Jones
Park.
F
This
is
property
sitting
adjacent
to
the
existing
Ira
B
Jones
Elementary
School
on
Kimberly
Avenue.
This
would
also
provide
for
the
ongoing
maintenance
of
that
particular
playground
throughout
its
useful
life.
The
construction
of
this
playground
would
be
managed
entirely
by
Buncombe,
County
and
through
a
competitive
bidding
process.
The
cost
of
construction
would
be
funded
entirely
by
private
donations,
and
the
city's
responsibility
would
be
limited
to
the
ongoing
maintenance
and
repair
of
just
the
playground
equipment
and
then
the
final
removal
of
that
equipment
when
it
reaches
the
end
of
its
useful
life.
F
As
some
background,
as
I
said,
the
Jones
Park
had
an
existing
playground
on
it
until
about
September
of
last
year,
at
which
point
that
facility
was
removed
due
to
some
safety
concerns.
Thereafter,
community
members
offered
to
make
some
Financial
donations
in
order
to
construct
a
new
playground
on
that
site,
and
just
this
last
week
the
Asheville
City
Board
of
Education
voted
unanimously
to
offer
an
interlocal
agreement
which
would
facilitate
the
construction
of
a
new
playground,
as
well
as
the
ongoing
maintenance
of
it.
F
City
staff,
including
members
of
The
Parks
and
Recreation
Department,
as
well
as
my
office,
have
been
intimately
involved
in
the
development
of
this
particular
interlocal
agreement
and
I
can
tell
you
that
tonight
we
support
the
iteration
before
you.
I
want
to
go
over
now.
What
the
primary
terms
of
the
interlocal
agreement
are.
So
we
don't
have
to
read
the
agreement
in
its
entirety.
Here
but
I
think
this
covers
everything
of
substance.
F
First
and
foremost,
the
Asheville
City
Schools,
which
you
can
see
I've
abbreviated
multiple
times
with
ACS,
we'll
actually
accept
the
private
donation
to
initiate
the
process.
This
will
be
followed
by
the
selection
of
a
contractor
by
Buncombe
County,
who
will
manage
the
and
oversee
the
construction
of
the
actual
playground
facility.
F
Following
this
Asheville
City
Schools
will
continue
to
own
Jones
Park
all
of
the
land,
including
where
the
school
is
located
and
the
new
playground.
They
will
also
own
the
playground,
equipment,
Asheville,
City
Schools
will
own
the
entire
property
before
and
after
that
will
not
change
as
part
of
Deering
or
at
the
conclusion
of
this
agreement.
At
the
completion
of
construction,
the
city
of
Asheville
will
assume
the
responsibility
for
maintaining
or
repairing
just
the
playground
equipment.
F
This
will
be
non-consistent
with
our
existing
Parks
and
Recreation
policies
for
playgrounds
of
this
type.
And
finally,
the
city
of
Asheville
will
be
responsible
for
removal
of
the
equipment
when
it
reaches
the
end
of
its
useful
life
or
20
years.
F
Whichever
is
longer
and
I
say
20
years,
because
this
is
the
industry
standard
for
this
type
of
equipment,
next
Asheville
City
Schools
will
continue
to
be
responsible
for
the
remainder
of
the
site
maintenance,
and
this
includes
things
like
mowing:
trash
removal,
the
initial
placement
of
mulch
at
the
side,
as
well
as
any
future
Replacements
of
that
mulch.
These
City's
liability
here
will
be
limited
to
any
damages,
potentially,
hopefully
resulting
from
the
use
of
the
playground
equipment,
the
remainder
of
the
site,
the
liability
Associated.
F
That
would
not
be
on
the
city
and
I
will
note
here
that
it's
important
to
say
that
prior
to
the
construction
of
the
city,
as
well
as
Buncombe
County
and
the
Board
of
Education
maintained
the
authority
to
approve
the
final
design
of
the
playground.
So
before
we
take
over
the
responsibility
of
maintaining
it,
we
have
the
ability
to
say
that
we
approve
the
actual
design
of
that
playground.
F
During
the
course
of
the
agreement
either
party
can
terminate
this
and
with
180
days
notice.
The
Board
of
Education
can
choose
to
terminate
the
agreement,
and
if
they
do,
they
actually
will
assume
the
responsibility
for
removal.
Instead
of
the
city
now
at
the
end
of
the
useful
life
and
following
that
removal,
the
city
will
have
no
further
responsibility
for
the
entire
site,
none
of
the
land
nor
to
rebuild
or
replace
that
existing
playground.
F
In
terms
of
the
financial
considerations,
the
city
will
maintain
liability
insurance
over
the
playground,
and
this
will
be
lumped
into
our
existing
policies
for
parks
and
playgrounds
of
this
particular
top
within
our
inventory.
The
playground,
equipment
maintenance
will
be
funded
entirely
out
of
the
existing
operating
budget
from
Parks
and
Recreation.
Now
we
don't
know
what
the
removal
cost
will
be,
but
we
can
draw
some
insight
from
what
happened
just
last
year
when
the
previous
playground
was
removed
at
a
cost
of
approximately
ten
thousand
dollars.
F
Beyond
this
the
city
incurts
absolutely
no
cost
for
construction,
nor
any
site,
maintenance,
Beyond
again
just
the
equipment
being
installed
at
the
playground,
and
that
includes
the
mulch,
which
is
likely
to
be
the
base
upon
these
terms
that
we
have
negotiated
in
good
faith
with
the
Board
of
Education.
It
is
City
staff's
recommendation
that
city
council
tonight
adopt
a
resolution
to
enter
into
this
interlocal
agreement
with
the
city
school
system
in
order
to
construct
a
new
park
at
the
Jones
Park
site
and
provide
for
its
ongoing
maintenance
throughout
its
useful
life.
F
With
that
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
from
a
legal
standpoint,
I
believe
we
also
have
members
of
our
Parks
and
Recreation
Department.
If
you
have
any
questions,
that's
beyond
my
Parks
and
Recreation
knowledge.
L
L
L
O
No
other
questions,
I,
don't
have
a
question,
but
during
your
presentation,
I
looked
out
and
I
saw
my
friend,
Jenny
Pickens
in
the
audience
and
initially
I
wasn't
gonna
bring
it
up.
But
some
might
recall
about
a
year
ago,
when
we
were
going
over
the
budget
discussion,
I
brought
up
crime
statistics
for
black
females
in
Asheville
and
despite
being
about
five
percent
of
the
population.
O
Folks
who
are
black
and
female,
make
up
about
20
of
the
victims
of
domestic
violence
in
our
community
and
I
will
say
at
that
time.
I
was
thinking
of
Candace
Pickens
actually,
and
so,
when
we
began
having
discussions
about
Jones
Park
in
that
first
evening,
I
brought
her
up.
O
O
Candice
die,
fortunately,
he's
still
with
us.
So
for
me
from
that
point,
on
every
time
I
hear
Jones
Park
my
brother
went
to
RB
Jones
and
at
the
time
there
wasn't
a
park
there
before
a
significant
part
of
our
community.
When
we
hear
Jones
Park,
we
think
about
Candace
and
her
little
boy.
O
So
at
that
time
I
mentioned,
perhaps
we
could
consider
some
type
of
Memorial
to
Candace
or
even
renaming
it
after
canvas,
because
everybody
Loves
Parks,
everybody
loves
kids
and
that
Park,
where
was
a
place
where
her
little
boy
loved
to
go?
O
You
know
we
pride
ourselves
as
being
a
community
that
is
open,
inclusive
and
we
talk
a
whole
lot
about
equity,
I'm
going
to
say
the
quiet
part
out
loud
people
came
to
me
and
said:
what
was
she
doing
there?
It
wasn't
her
Park,
we
don't
want
to
rename
it
after
her
because
it
will
lower
our
property
values.
O
I'm
offended
I'm
from
here
the
Pickens
are
a
long
term.
Asheville
Family.
If
you
are
from
here
you
know
at
least
one
picket,
so
in
their
meeting
the
school
board
decided
to
pass
this
in
a
local
agreement
and
I
heard
two
of
the
members
mention
they
wanted
to
start
a
discussion
about
renaming
the
park.
The
decision
was
made.
Well,
let's
go
ahead
and
pass
this
and
then
come
back
and
discuss
renaming
when
I'm
hoping
my
colleagues
will
allow
me
to
do
is
to
be
the
one
to
make
this
motion.
O
L
O
A
A
Okay,
we
I'm
gonna.
We
have
a
motion
in
a
second
I'm,
going
to
figure
out
who
signed.
W
For
allowing
me
to
speak
this
evening,
I'm
Wendy,
hayner
and
I
live
in
North,
Asheville
I'm,
also
on
the
North
neighborhood
advisory
committee
for
28804,
and
so
that's
another
reason
for
my
being
here
is
looking
at
our
playground
that
was
taken
away
and
looking
at
a
place
where
children
can
come
and
play.
W
That
playground
has
a
small
and
I
mean
very
small
play
area
for
children
from
the
ages
of
three
and
up
there's
a
Sandbox
for
infants
and
toddlers.
That's
it,
and
so,
when
I
go
back
and
I
look
at
our
Jones
playground
that
we
had
previously.
There
was
a
large
section
for
infants
and
toddlers
to
play,
and
so,
when
I'm,
also
thinking
about
your
suggestion
of
the
naming
of
this
playground,
I'm
also
thinking
of
her
son,
who
happened
to
have
been
three
years
of
age,
he
was
too.
B
W
W
We
need
it
not
only
for
the
children
that
live
there,
but
for
the
grandparents
that
have
their
children
that
come
and
visit
I
want
that,
to
be
a
lovely
place,
a
wonderful
place
to
remember
their
memories
from
being
a
child
and
enjoying
that
facility.
I.
Do
hope
that
you
will
take
this
into
consideration
this
evening
and
thank
you
again
for
your
time.
X
In
her
governmental
cooperation
and
planning,
David
Rogers
couldn't
be
here
tonight,
because
his
son
tested
positive
for
covet
I'm
Mike,
Lewis
I
live
on
Graceland
Road
I
helped
build
Jones
Park,
my
grandchildren
played
there,
my
grandsons
come
from
Raleigh
and
the
first
thing
they
would
say.
Well,
maybe
the
second
thing
they
would
say
was
Papa.
Can
we
go
to
the
park
right?
The
wrong
accept
the
gift
restore
the
park.
X
Jones
Park
was
an
asset
to
the
surrounding
community
and
Drew
children
and
their
families
from
all
over
Asheville
and
Buncombe
County.
Sometimes
I
look
out
the
front
door
and
see
a
line
of
little
kids
of
all
colors
and
their
caregivers
from
the
Grace
Covenant
daycare
center
heading
towards
the
park.
K
Y
Y
Y
This
cherish
playground
was
a
community
effort
when
it
was
built
in
1999
and
now
over
20
years
later,
it
will
hopefully
be
rebuilt
as
a
community
effort.
Once
again,
unfortunately,
David
Rogers,
who
was
the
champion
and
spearhead
of
these
efforts
to
rebuild
Jones
Park
I,
could
not
make
it
this
evening,
but
on
his
his
behalf,
I
just
wanted
to
especially
thank
Brad
Branham
for
your
work,
putting
this
agreement
together
and
for
your
responsiveness
and
diligence
throughout
the
process.
I
realized
that
a
trilateral
memorandum
of
understanding
or
memorandum.
Y
This
is
the
mou-
is
not
an
ideal
way
to
to
build
a
playground,
but
getting
through
all
these
hurdles
and
with
all
of
your
patients,
I
think
that
thousands
of
tiny
little
Ash
villains
will
be
more
than
thrilled
to
spend
time
and
build
friendships
at
the
park
in
the
future.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Z
My
name
is
Jonathan
Wainscott
and
I.
My
father,
who
enjoyed
taking
my
children
to
Jones
Park
very
toddler,
friendly
I,
understand
why
parents
like
it
I
have
to
say,
though,
that
this
is
something
that
should
have
never
made
it
to
the
agenda.
It
certainly
shouldn't
have
made
it
to
the
agenda
and
a
political
season
such
as
it
is.
It
seems
like
it's,
a
very
North
Asheville,
very
special
privilege
situation
that
we
have
here
we're
going
to
be
using
City
money
to
be
funding
the
playground
which
is
not
on
city
property.
Z
That
seems
to
be
kind
of
a
very
special
arrangement.
I.
Just
don't
think
this
is
the
way
that
things
need
to
be
done.
Asheville
city
council
has
nothing
to
do
with
Asheville
City
School
System
anymore,
since
that
board
is
elected
by
the
public
rather
than
appointed
by
you.
This
seems
like
a
very
convoluted
system.
We've
got
Asheville
city
council
involved
in
something
that
really
shouldn't
be
the
Asheville
School
Board,
getting
funding
from
the
county
and
I.
Don't
think
that
it
represents
a
very
good
way
of
getting
things
done.
Z
It
seems
just
like
a
very
special
project
on
Kimberly
Avenue,
which
you're
familiar
with
it's
a
really
nice
Street
I
wrote
up
at
the
other
day.
The
pavement
it's
Immaculate
I,
just
don't
feel
a
need
as
a
taxpayer
to
make
that
neighborhood
nicer.
You
guys
have
all
the
nice
stuff
as
it
already
is,
I
mean
how
much
nicer
do
you
need
your
life
to
be
I'm,
also
thankful
to
Antoinette
Mosley
for
bringing
up
Candace
Pickens
I
mean
we.
Z
This
was
a
horrific
murder
of
a
woman
who
was
just
shy
of
her
23rd
birthday,
and
the
last
thing
that
she
experienced
was
watching
her
child
shot
in
the
face.
That's
the
last
thing
that
she
experienced
in
this
world
and
she
died.
He
survived
as
she
died
to
me.
This
is
kind
of
like
sacred
ground
and
I.
Don't
think
that
I'm
I'm
really
embarrassed
by
my
community.
You
know
this
tragedy
happened
in
the
in
the
community
rallied
to
to
raise
what
I've
heard
was
a
half
a
million
dollars.
Z
It's
gone
over
a
quarter
of
a
million
dollars
not
to
restore
the
Pickens
family,
but
to
restore
the
playground
that
they
feel
had
been
lost.
They've
been
taken
from
them
when
in
fact,
they
poached
the
land
from
the
school
system
in
the
first
place.
The
history
of
this
isn't
good.
The
continuation
of
it
is
wrong-headed,
but
if
it
is
the
way
to
honor
the
Pickens
family,
then
it's
got
my
support
in
that
regard.
But
this
was
messy.
It's
sloppy!
It's
political!
It's
selfish!
This
whole!
Z
It
is
it's
an
embarrassment
for
my
city
for
all
the
people
who
have
talked
about
working
for
marginalized
communities
to
then
you
know,
put
certain
members
of
council
behind
the
eight
ball
as
they're
running
for
re-election.
I
found
it
odd
that
your
own
son
petitioned
Shanika
Smith
the
vice
mayor
for
this.
A
This
I
think
Keisha
Martinez.
C
V
V
V
V
V
Candace
was
the
best
person
she
could
be
while
she
was
alive,
she
impacted
others
and
when
she
passed
she
impacted
not
only
Asheville
North
Carolina,
but
the
world,
including
Snoop
Dogg,
the
rapper,
the
rapper
of
the
game.
It
went
all
the
way
to
the
New
York
to
The
Washington
Post.
They
had
gave
me
a
call.
V
V
V
V
V
V
A
That
was
the
last
person
signed
up
to
speak
under
this
item.
We
have
a,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
I
I
do
want
to
I.
Do
want
to
highlight
that
this
was
a
challenge
from
a
logistical
standpoint,
but
an
incredible
opportunity
for
the
city
to
work
closely
with
the
county
and
the
school
system
to
come
up
with
a
memorandum
of
understanding,
which
is
what
we
have
here.
A
It's
one
of
these
areas
that
is
a
little
bit
peculiar
because
it's
property
owned
by
the
school
system,
but
a
park
being
asked
to
be
maintained
by
the
city,
but
the
county
actually
does
the
construction
for
the
school
system,
so
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
always
happen
that
we
end
up
in
these
funny
little
spots
and
I
tried
to
when
David
Rogers
said
to
me.
Why
is
it
taking
so
long
and
so
many
meetings
that
I've
personally
attended
and
I
said
you
know
we
could
be
building
the
Pentagon?
A
It
really
doesn't
matter,
I'm,
not
sure
we'll
get
some
feedback
on
topic,
but
but
just
trying
to
bring
it
sounds
like
somebody's
tea
kettle
and
I.
Don't
know.
A
But
anyway,
so
it
was
a
challenge,
but
we
all
got
to
know
each
other
a
little
bit
better
and
I
think
it
paved
the
way
for
future
Partnerships,
that's
gonna
blow
up
or
what
is
happening.
G
Say
thank
you
to
staff
and
to
councilman
Mosley
for
the
leadership
on
the
renaming
for
anyone
in
Asheville
who's
questioning
this
action.
I
see
it
as
an
example
of
cross-jurisdiction
leadership
that
advances
Partnerships
with
our
neighborhoods,
which
is
an
example
of
exactly
what
our
community
expects
us
to
do.
A
path
to
do
the
same
might
be
plainly
outlined
for
Walton
Street
and
Ravenscroft
reserve
and
Community
Gardens,
but
I
think
this
is
an
example
of
council
doing
important
work.
A
Okay,
all
right
we're
gonna,
how
about
we'll
do
a
vote
and
then
let's
take
a
quick
break
and
see
if
we
got
somebody
with
the
building
department.
I
could
figure
this
out
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
Thank
you.
Let's
take
a
quick
break.
Yes,.
A
Now
we're
live
okay,
all
right,
so
we
have
one
final
item
on
our
agenda.
Our
printed
agenda,
which
is
a
motion
to
approve
the
Water
Resource
Department's
10-year
Capital
Improvement
schedule
we're
going
to
hear
from
water
director
David
Milton.
Q
Q
What
a
resources
has
received:
letters
of
intent
to
fund
two
projects
from
the
ncdq
Department
of
Water
infrastructure,
the
Mills
River
water
treatment
plant
and
Rehabilitation
phase.
Two.
We
received
five
million
dollars
in
Grant
funds
for
that
project
in
the
North
Fork
and
William
to
brew
water
treatment
plants,
water
treatment,
study,
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
that
project.
Q
Q
Between
the
two
The
Five-Year
Capital
Improvement
plan,
Council
adopts
the
five-year
CIP
during
the
budget
process
and
the
first
physical
year
is
funded
year.
Two
and
year
three
contain
projects
that
are
planned
and
may
already
be
designed
or
in
the
design
process
year.
Four
and
five
contain
projects
that
are
planned
but
may
not
have
moved
to
the
design
process
at
that
time.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Fy
24-27
remain
unchanged
from
what
was
adopted
during
the
last
budget
process,
with
the
exception
of
fi-24
there's
a
CIP
adjustment
proposed
for
15
million
dollars
that
will
be
applied
for
through
the
North
Carolina
Department
of
Environmental
Quality
DWI
funding
process,
this
fall
and
that
15
million
dollars
is
the
other
half
of
the
Mills
River
phase.
Two
Improvement
project,
FYI
28
through
FY
33,
is
a
label
of
future
Capital
forecast.
Q
It's
pretty
quick
and
I'll
end
on
a
few
takeaways
again:
ncdq
division,
water
infrastructure,
State
revolved
in
funds
and
Arbor
grants
are
available.
The
city
has
been
awarded
to
two
grants:
totaling
5.4
million
dollars.
Already
these
state
grants
and
funds
are
used
for
continual
capital,
investment
in
system
infrastructure
and
having
a
10-year
Capital
Improvements
plan
will
allow
the
city
to
be
more
competitive
for
future
Grant
applications.
It's
not
the
one
we're
going
to
do
this
month
and
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
K
I,
don't
really
have
any
questions
but
I
appreciate
the
water
department
and
really
all
staff
about
being
proactive
about
finding
other
other
opportunities
for
funding,
and
you
know
trying
to
set
the
stage
to
get
as
much
help
from
other
agencies
as
we
possibly
can
so
appreciate
your
always
being
Innovative
on
finding
these
opportunities.
So
thank
you.
M
A
Projects
to
to
shore
up
our
system,
the
Norfolk
Dam
projects,
a
lot
of
things
folks,
don't
see
because
they're
tucked
away
but
very
important
to
preserving
the
Integrity
of
our
water
system,
which
is
a
constant
ongoing
process
so
and
as
mayor
I've,
had
a
chance
to
learn
about
a
lot
of
other
communities
that
have
not
continuously
funded
their
Capital
needs
and
fallen
behind
in
their
systems
and
they're
they're
in
Dire
Straits.
Now,
and
so
thank
you
for
for
y'all
working
proactively
on
this.
L
K
K
M
A
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
and
second
and
disappointingly,
no
one
signed
up
to
speak
with
no
Brown
Waters,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say.
A
Opposed
all
right,
thank
you
very
much
all
right
folks,
we're
going
to
move
into
the
informal
discussion
and
public
comment
portion
of
our
agenda.
We
do
have
a
number
of
people
signed
up
to
speak,
I'll,
try
to
tell
you
if
you're
speaking
and
then
who's
on
deck,
one,
two
three
I
think
eight
people
signed
up
to
speak
so
well
but
caveat
there.
So
the
first
person
signed
up
to
speak
is
Ben.
Urban
and
Ben
has
several
folks
seating
their
time.
William
Mitchell,
David,
Worley
Whitley,
that's
a
teaser,
okay
and
Kenneth
westall.
J
Thank
you
mayor
vice
mayor
council
members
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
bring
this
matter
to
your
attention.
I've
been
asked
by
the
group
that
I
am
on
the
board
of
the
citizens
for
a
responsible
land
use
to
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
a
development
proposal
that
I
think
could
affect
all
of
us
in
different
ways
in
Asheville
and
needs
to
I
think
to
be
on
the
radar
screen.
It's
called
by
the
developer,
the
Robin
Hood
residential,
it's
in
the
town
of
Woodfin.
J
Let
me
just
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
crlu
is
a
organization
that
was
non-profit
organizations
whose
main
goal
is
to
educate
the
public
about
the
risks
of
steep
slope
development.
It
has
a
board
of
directors
and
approximately
150
members
about
the
same
number
of
followers
and
supporters.
J
It
was
formed
in
2016
to
oppose
or
prevent
the
Cornerstone
development,
which
some
of
you
may
remember
about
six
years
ago
on
this
diagram
that
the
Yelp
red
section
is
sort
of
the
property
that
was
to
be
developed
there.
It's
on
the
steep
slopes
of
Elk
Mountain
and
Killian
Mountain
above
the
north
Asheville
neighborhoods
of
Lakeview
Park.
In
Sherwood
Heights
it
was
to
be
about
184
units.
Most
of
them
were
going
to
be
four-story
condominiums.
J
On
the
side
of
the
mountain
and
a
few
single-family
homes.
There
was
a
lot
of
public
opposition
that
our
group
helped
to
organize,
and
the
developer
withdrew
that
proposal
in
June
of
that
year.
They
simply
had
an
option
to
buy
the
property,
they
had
not
purchased
it.
So
we
went
into
a
monitoring
mode
after
that
happened
and
we're
very
happy
that
we
had
been
able
to
prevent
that
from
happening
or
at
least
place
on
part
in
it.
Sherwood
Heights
sold
that
property
in
2018
to
a
missouri-based
developer.
J
There's
a
lot
of
different
company
names
that
go
one
into
the
other,
but
basically
it
is
controlled
by
a
group
called
Hatteras
Sky,
which
is
based
in
Atlanta,
currently
has
two
Hotel
conversion
projects
in
Asheville,
one
in
the
river
arts
district,
one
on
the
Biltmore
Avenue
south
of
south
of
downtown,
and
additionally,
they
have
this
one
that
they're
working
on
the
owner,
subdivided
that
big
piece
of
property
in
2019
and
created
a
95
acre
parcel
that
they
put
into
conservation.
That
was
about
three
quarters
of
the
whole
property,
which
was
great.
J
We
didn't
even
know
that
it
happened
until
about
six
months
later,
and
we
were
talking
to
a
rep
local
representative
and
found
out.
They
had
done
that
they
carved
off
two
other
smaller
Parcels
for
single-family
dwellings,
which
would
basically
be
filling
in
between
places
where
there
already
are
lots
or
adjacent
to
places
where
there
are
lots,
and
then
they
Reserve
this
16
acres
for
some
future
development.
J
It
turns
out
they
submitted
an
application
for
that
plan
in
May
of
2021,
and
that
area
is
zoned
and
for
wood
pins.
What's
called
Mountain
Village,
and
this
is
a
zoning
District
that
Woodfin
was
working
on
in
2020.
They
put
a
moratorium
on
it.
It's
designed
for
high
density
mixed-use
development
typically
should
be
close
to
Major
roads
and
infrastructure,
and
things
like
that
anyway.
That's
what
this
is
zoned
the
Woodfin
had
put
it
on
moratorium.
J
Then
they
made
some
changes
to
the
code
to
tighten
it
up
a
little
bit
in
2020
and
2020,
and
then
they
we're
going
to
further
change
the
code
in
May
of
2021
and
the
developers
submitted
an
application
the
day
before.
That
was
to
happen
to
avoid
being
subject
to
the
new
like
I'm
putting
words
in
their
mouth.
They
were
not
subject
to
the
new
controls
that
came
into
place
fast
forward
about
unto
this
year.
J
The
town
of
Woodfin
believed
that
the
zoning
application
had
lapsed
because
of
lack
of
activity
and
proposed
to
rezone
all
the
property
to
r21,
which
is
a
low
density
residential,
the
property
that
was
for
this
and
all
the
other
property
that
was
also
Mountain
Village.
The
developer
challenged
that
and
the
town
agreed
that
they
would
keep
the
application
active
until
the
11th
of
August
on
the
8th
of
August.
They
submitted
another
a
different
plan.
J
This
is
the
fourth
one
they
had
submitted,
so
this
is
showing
kind
of
what
they
are
currently
most
recently
had
submitted
to
do.
It
would
involve
about
105
multi-family
units
about
five
single-family
units
up
to
188
parking
spaces
in
an
outdoor
lots,
and
they
want
to
reserve
the
option
to
have
short-term
rentals
for
these
structures.
J
I
will
show
you
a
little
bit
about
what
this
project
would
look
like
and
where
it
lies
in
in
Asheville.
You
saw
on
the
other
Maps.
This
is
kind
of
a
simulated
view
from
downtown
looking
towards
Reynolds
Mountain
Reynolds
Mountain
development
is
actually
on
two
Summits
one
is
Reynolds
Mountain
one
is
Killian
Mountain.
This
shows
kind
of
the
site
plan
superimposed
on
the
side
of
that
mountain.
J
The
light
colored
areas
represent
those
areas
that
have
the
buildings
and
the
parking
lots
and
the
roads
I
use
a
imagery
from
2006,
because
that
was
when
Reynolds
Mountain
was
under
construction.
I
was
trying
to
find
something
we
were
trying
to
find
something
that
would
be
comparable
to
this
anywhere.
In
the
view
shed
of
Asheville.
J
There
is
a
condominium
development
in
Reynolds
mountain
called
The
Views,
and
it
was
under
construction
at
this
time
and
it
has
about
45,
mostly
duplex
Condominiums.
You
can
sort
of
see
a
kind
of
a
light.
Colored
area
there,
where
that
was
being
done
and
then
I
can
you
can
compare
what
this
would
look
like
for
it
to
be
constructed
and
completed?
J
Certainly,
our
main
interest
is
in
steep
slopes
and
concern
about
steep
slopes.
I'm,
comparing
here
what
the
this
property
is
at
43
percent
slope
has
an
elevation
of
2400
2800
feet.
The
steep
slope
protections
were
put
in
place
in
Woodfin,
but
only
after
this
application
went
in
so
it
does
not.
They
do
not
apply
to
them.
The
county
and
the
city
have
had
them
for
many
years.
J
Woodman
got
them
recently,
if
those
just
to
see
how
it
Compares
with
what
could
be
done
now,
the
density
they
are
proposing
is
500
percent
of
what
would
be
allowed
under
the
current
rules.
The
impervious
area,
which
is
what
water
will
run
off
of,
is
300
percent
of
what
would
be
allowed
and
the
Disturbed
area,
which
is
where
they
would
change.
The
natural
cover
is
250
percent,
so.
J
As
they
relate
to
the
city
of
Asheville,
of
course,
are
for
environmental
damage
from
the
development
of
these
steep
slopes.
First
of
all,
runoff
and
erosion.
The
storm
water
system
that
would
take
any
runoff
from
this
is
all
in
the
city
of
Asheville.
All
the
runoff
and
sediment
would
end
up
in
Beaver,
Lake,
land
plots
and
mud
flows,
of
course,
are
also
a
concern.
The
State
Department
of
Environmental
Quality
has
designated
areas
within
that
parcel.
That
I
showed
you
of
having
both
high
and
moderate
Landslide
risk.
J
Much
smaller
projects
that
have
been
done
on
that
Mountainside
have
resulted
in
mud,
mud
flows
pouring
down
into
people's
property
in
just
the
last
10
12
years,
and
this
would
be
way
larger
than
anything
else.
That's
been
done,
and
there
was
a
landslide
just
a
few
years
ago
on
Beaverbrook
on
an
embankment
of
the
road
that
disrupted
Water
and
Sewer
Service
after
we
had
just.
J
Half
inches
of
rain
over
a
24-hour
period,
the
county
and
the
City
of
Asheville
require,
what's
called
a
geotechnical
stability
analysis.
An
engineer
goes
and
looks
at
that
land
determines
what
can
be
done
with
it
safely.
It's
not
required
by
the
county
in
the
town
of
Woodfin,
and
it's
not
required
in
Woodson,
because
this
grandfather
kind
of
ordinances.
We
feel
that
perhaps
the
city
would
have
grounds
to
insist
that
that
be
done
if
the
developer
doesn't
voluntarily
do
it.
J
J
J
J
Like
to
ask
you
is
for
help
in
preventing
the
potential
detrimental
impacts
of
development
on
these
slopes,
we
would
like
for
you
to
explore
ways
to
hold
this
developer
accountable
to
the
city
and
citizens
of
Asheville
use,
whatever
leverage
you
have
through
the
infrastructure
that
are
irresponsible
for
the
streets,
the
storm,
water,
public
welfare
and
safety.
To
do
what
you
can
to
see
that
that
we
don't
end
up
with
a
dangerous
situation.
J
A
Thank
you
and
your
presentation
has
been
received
and
and
also
the
presentation
that
you
presented
to
your
group
and
your
meeting
I
sent
to
the
city
Administration
as
well.
C
N
Girl
good
evening
Madam,
mayor
and
members
of
the
Asheville
city
council,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
tonight.
My
name
is
Leanne
Brunton
and
I'm
here
to
speak
in
favor
of
a
little
sport
you
might
have
heard
of.
By
now
the
pickleball
I
know
many
people
have
come
before
you
with
lots
of
statistics
and
facts
and
figures,
and
on
the
subject
and
I'm
not
going
to
give
this
to
you
tonight,
I'm
coming
to
speak
to
you
as
mama
and
for
my
mama's
heart.
D
N
The
Spectrum,
when
we
first
moved
here
in
2015,
they
were
not
easily
excuse
me
accepted
and
often
ridiculed
in
middle
school
and
high
school.
When
I
found
the
pickleball
community,
they
were
accepted,
they
accepted
my
children
for
who
they
were,
and
thank
you.
N
What's
up
mama
thing
they
were
accepted
for
who
they
were
and
they
welcomed
them.
No
matter
their
skill
level
you
see.
Pickleball
to
us
is
so
much
more
than
just
a
sport.
It's
a
community,
a
place
where
my
kids
can
go
to
feel
safe
and
accepted
it's
a
great
place
for
them
to
get
fresh
air
exercise.
Socialization.
N
The
pickleball
Community
has
become
more
of
a
family
and
I
think
by
adding
some
more
courts,
it
would
give
the
opportunity
to
help
all
kinds
of
people
with
different
abilities,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
and
making
better
Community.
Thank.
A
A
AA
Actually
Essie
Hutchinson,
thank
you,
but
yeah
yeah,
so
hi,
my
name
is
Essie
Hutchinson
I
grew
up
in
Fairview
and
I
have
the
privilege
of
being
part
of
an
amazing
family
and
very
focus
on
Farming
and
conservation
and
where
we
own
Cheryl's,
Inn
and
I
play
Pickleball
there
on
a
tennis
court,
a
pickleball
that
has
pickle
I
mean
sorry,
a
tennis
court
that
has
so
much
character
has
cracks
everywhere,
where
the
grass
is
growing
through
the
cracks,
but
I
find
it
that
it
would
be
really
important,
for
you
know,
pickleball
to
be
more
inclusive
and
if
we
could
have
more
courts
spread
around
Asheville
and
it's
just
such
a
great
sport
for
people
of
all
ages.
AA
AA
AA
E
So
I
just
wanted
to
share
two
quick
things
with
you.
The
first
is
a
congratulations
for
the
Caribou
Road
Project.
It's
wonderful
to
see
something
with
a
hundred
percent
affordability
in
perpetuity
and
The
Leverage
of
one
and
a
half
million
dollars
for
a
20
plus
million
dollar
project
great
job.
The
developer
accommodated
the
neighborhood
by
moving
the
building.
That's
my
neighborhood
Shiloh
I'm,
really
happy
to
see
this
work
out.
E
I
recommend
that
you,
when
you're
readdressing
the
availability
of
funds
for
this
kind
of
project
that
you
do
consider
bumping
up
the
amount,
that's
acceptable
and
perhaps
adding
some
more
incentives
for
sustainable
environmental
accommodations
like
solar
panels
but
yay.
For
that.
The
second
thing
I
wanted
to
talk
about
I
didn't
realize
it
would
be.
Quite
so
apropos
after
hearing
from
the
water
department
is
I'd
like
to
tell
you
a
happy
story
about
responses
of
city
services.
E
My
neighbor
has
has
had
I
believe
five
water
main
breaks
in
a
three
block
radius
over
the
last
six
months,
most
of
them
within
distance
of
my
house
and
literally
two
at
the
intersection
where
my
house
sits
and
the
most
recent
one
was
just
this
week.
I
used
the
Asheville
app
I
reported
it
I
took
photographs
and
three
days
later
this
morning
there
was
a
city
crew,
digging
up
the
road
and
fixing
it
and
patching
it.
E
So
just
wanted
to
give
you
some
good
news,
both
at
the
Asheville
app
is
getting
great
results
and,
second
of
all
that
our
city
services
are
responding
promptly
and
I'm
very
happy
to
see
the
water
department
looking
to
aggressively
leverage,
both
arpa
and
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
funds,
because
we
need
all
new
pipes,
because
this
is
going
to
keep
happening
if
we
don't
really
beef
up
our
infrastructure
but
yay
for
the
win
and
let's
look
to
the
Future
and
really
fix
our
water
infrastructure
throughout
the
city.
Thanks
for
listening,
thank
you.
A
AB
Perhaps
on
two
or
three
of
those
weekdays,
there
will
be
tennis
players
two
to
four
taking
up
one
Hall
court
and
they
play
for
one
to
two
hours,
otherwise
that
Court
sits
empty
I.
Also
ask
that
you
keep
both
cattle
worth
and
Malvern
Hills
Parks,
dual
lined
for
pickleball
and
tennis
on
an
alternating
schedule,
with
understanding
that
pickleballers
would
continue
to
provide
our
own
Nets
at
those
parks.
AB
If
you
should
decide
to
give
pickleballers
and
tennis
players
alternating
days
on
all
courts
and
Parks,
then
please
line
all
the
courts
for
pickleball,
not
just
one
or
two
at
each
Park
bear
in
mind.
This
compromise
would
require
Parks
and
Rec
to
set
up
22
pickleball
Nets
around
the
city.
City
parks
break
them
down
and
retrieve
them
at
the
end
of
each
session.
Each
Park,
it's
a
very
time,
consuming
task
to
break
down
one
net.
AB
We
respect
the
tennis
community
and
we
do
want
to
work
with
them
towards
a
resolution.
Space
is
limited.
We
understand,
although
it
doesn't
seem
to
be,
have
been
an
issue
in
the
majority
of
nearby
cities
that
do
have
and
have
provided
dedicated
pickleball
courts.
Waynesville
is
building
eight
new
dedicated
courts
in
early
2023.
AB
population,
10,
000.,
Henderson,
Brevard,
Weaverville,
Black
Mountain
all
are
ahead
of
Asheville
in
providing
dedicated
courts.
Many
of
them
knew
not
converted.
Interestingly,
the
combined
population
of
just
those
five
cities
is
about
half
out
of
Asheville
I.
Ask
that
you
are
City.
Representatives
represent
our
burgeoning
community
by
allocating
funds
for
a
dedicated
pickleball
facility
that
will
support
Regional
tournaments.
It
would
be
a
source
of
Tourism
revenue
for
the
city
of
Asheville
and
fill
a
growing
need
that
will
only
continue
to
grow.
AB
AB
Finally,
several
of
us
have
previously
previously
mentioned
visitors
to
Asheville
continued
to
express
how
hard
it
is
to
find
pickle
boards
pickle,
pickleball
courts
to
play
during
their
stay.
It's
quite
frankly
not
a
positive
reflection
on
Nashville.
A
Okay,
now
I
gotta,
I'm,
sorry,
we're
gonna
have
to
review
the
rules,
pickleball
people,
but
we
we
don't
allow
clapping
in
the
chamber,
but
we
obviously
have
exceptions
for
highly
emotional
moments,
which
is
at
my
Liberty
and
discretion
to
determine,
but
that's
not
one
of
them
so
we'll.
A
But
but
we
do
appreciate
your
enthusiasm
and
I
really
do
actually
appreciate
that
you
sit
through
all
these
meetings
and
hear
all
the
different
issues
that
we're
dealing
with.
So
you
have
the
context
for
your
for
your
efforts.
So
I
do
appreciate
that
and
with
that
we
have
one
final
speaker
and
that
is
Jonathan
Wade
Scott.
Z
I
just
I'm
not
going
to
say
the
pickleball
sounds
like
an
unfortunate
medical
condition.
Anyway,
the
other
night
I
went
to
this
last
Tuesday
I
went
to
this
thing,
called
The,
Trusted
elections,
tour
I,
don't
know
if
you
heard
about
this
bipartisan
effort
by
I,
don't
know
Democrats
and
Republicans
that
want
to
do
a
town
hall,
a
tour,
ensuring
everybody
knew
that
our
elections
were
solid
and
secure
here,
which
I
totally
find
to
be
the
case.
Z
You
know
I'm
not
worried
about
election
fraud
and
whatnot,
but
I
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
retired
Supreme,
Court,
Justice,
Bob,
Orr
and
I
went
up
to
him
and
I'm
like
hey.
Did
you
know
that
here
in
Buncombe
County
we
have
seven
district
court
judges
they're,
all
elected
ostensibly,
but
only
one
has
ever
been,
was
a
seated
to
the
bench
by
way
of
an
election
with
an
opponent
in
it
and
that's
judge
young
and
then
there's
only
been
two
other
elections.
Z
The
total
number
of
of
Elections
that
these
judges
on
the
other
side
of
that
wall
in
the
Temple
of
Doom
over
there,
they
have
they've
faced
26
elections
in
their
career
and
only
three
of
them
have
offered
an
opponent.
It's
crazy!
Imagine
that
five
of
you
have
never
seen
an
opponent
in
an
election
and
to
me
that
really
reflects
not
a
very
high
degree
of
Integrity
when
it
comes
to
democracy.
Z
I
mean
if
89
percent
of
our
elections
offer
no
choice
and
disenfranchise
the
public
by
a
hundred
percent
by
offering
no
choice,
that's
not
much
of
a
democratic
institution,
and
then
I
was
also
able
to
talk
to
Corrine
Duncan.
She
was
a
panelist
there
and
she
works
at
the
bunk
and
board
of
the
Board
of
Elections
I,
think
she's,
the
director
there
and
Jake
Quinn,
and
they
were
bragging
about
how
they
were
updating
the
voter
information.
Z
Every
day
everybody
can
see
what
the
voter
registration
is
and
I
reminded
them
that
back
in
2018,
when
Senate
Bill
813
passed,
and
it
was
a
law
that
Asheville
create
the
districts.
In
fact,
districts
were
created
for
the
city
of
Nashville.
They
never
updated
their
information
so
that
we
could
see
how
that
affected
voting
and
whether
or
not
it
negatively
impacted
the
black
community
and
whatnot
and
I.
Think
Jake
Quinn
said
well.
You
know
no
harm,
no
foul,
because
the
city
of
Asheville
just
overturned
it
and
I
said
yeah.
Jake
will
no
harm.
Z
Can
you
know
no
foul?
If
you
consider
renewing
a
Jim
Crow
policy
from
1931
no
harm
and
I
guess
he
doesn't
find
that
to
be
harmful
and
Corrine
Duncan
doesn't
so
they
were
very
helpful
in
obfuscating
our
election
system
here
back
in
2018
I
just
wanted
to
give
them
a
shout
out
for
what
they
didn't
do
for
the
public
while
they
were
bragging
about
what
they
constantly
do
to
the
public.
Z
So
you
know
democracy
here
is
kind
of
threatened
in
a
very
quiet
Way
by
not
having
any
choice
in
our
district
judges
and
the
Judiciary
in
general
and
our
at-large
election
system
and
thank.