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From YouTube: City Council Meeting - February 23, 2016
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February 23, 2016
Asheville City Council Meeting
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F
We're
bout
ready
to
be
able
to
make
that
donation
to
you.
It's
an
ongoing
program
that
the
breweries
are
leading
and
it's
a
way
for
them
to
support.
Greenway
said
they
wanted
to
find
a
way
that
they
could
contribute
and
collaborate,
and
we're
just
really
excited
about
that.
We
also
greatly
appreciate
the
support
from
city
staff
and
from
the
Ashla
agreement
committee.
F
They've
been
great
partners
with
us,
and
you
just
wanted
to
tell
you
that
the
mission
of
our
group,
in
case
you
don't
know,
is
to
encourage
and
support
the
implementation
of
the
buncombe
county
parks
and
greenways
master
plan
and
to
help
with
construction
of
green
ways
throughout
buncombe
county
through
public
awareness,
community,
education
and
fundraising.
So
thanks
so
much
for
the
opportunity
to
share
this
with
you
today
and
I'd
like
to
ask
up
Oscar
I'm
from
Thailand.
A
J
Members
of
council
members
of
the
public,
my
name
is
vigilance
at
the
cove
at
the
department
of
planning
and
urban
design.
This
is
a
quick
presentation
to
run
you
through
what
our
department
is
thinking
about
for
proposed
wording,
amendments
to
the
you
do
to
allow
for
reducing
barriers
for
small-scale
infill
housing.
As
you
all
know,
here
are
a
few
bullets
of
the
current
state
of
affairs
for
housing
in
asheville.
Our
population
is
quickly
growing
we're
at
nearly
90,000
people.
The
supply
of
housing
is
limited.
J
We
have
a
very
tight
housing
market,
less
than
1%
vacancy
for
rentals
and
that
and
that
for
sale
units
are
on
the
rise.
There
was
a
correction
here.
You
can
see
the
strikeout
in
the
early
report
you
received,
show
25%
of
renter's
as
cost
bird,
and
that
number
is
actually
25%
cost
bird
and
owner
owners
in
Asheville.
The
renter
number
is
forty
three
percent,
which
is
really
high.
It's
it's
close
to
what
Detroit
sees.
Of
course,
the
you
know.
J
The
history
is
very
different,
but
very
high
number
of
cost
burden,
households
paying
up
a
large
percentage
of
their
incomes
for
housing,
city
goals,
multiple
city
goals,
line
up
and
ask
department
to
look
at
ways
to
provide
more
info
housing,
and
we
believe
there
are
you
do
changes
and
for
for
people
who
don't
understand
the
wording.
Amendments
we're
basically
talking
about
changes
to
the
city's
rules,
to
permit
more
flexibility
for
small-scale
property
owners
and
small-scale
developer
to
do
infill
projects.
J
So
this
slide
shows
a
little
bit
of
what
is
becoming
aware
in
a
lot
of
planning
circles.
What
is
being
called
a
missing
middle
before
the
1950s
housing
was
much
more
varied
than
it
is
today
in
our
residential
districts.
On
the
far
left
you
see
single-family
detached
homes
on
the
far
right
you
see
mid
rise
and
higher
apartments,
which
is
kind
of
what
we
have
now
a
lot
of
single-family
districts
with
single-family
homes
and
then
apartment
complexes
in
downtown
or
in
other
areas
zone
for
them.
J
So
what
are
we
proposing
for
for
you
to
look
at
today
and
and
to
give
us
guidance
to
move
forward?
We
have
a
series
of
what
we
have
here:
seven,
those
changes,
three
of
them,
actually,
our
new
wording,
amendments
to
the
text,
so,
let's
kind
of
go
into
them
in
a
little
bit
of
more
detail,
one
would
amend
an
existing
ordinance
for
cottage
developments.
This
is
a
rule
that
allows
the
cluster
of
homes
on
one
parcel
to
have
more
of
a
community
feel.
J
Typically,
they
share
this,
the
open
space
where
for
gardening
or
something
like
that,
and
we
could
review
issues
of
the
lot
size.
There's
there's
currently
a
thousand
foot
separation
requirement
between
these
developments.
The
earlier
thought
was
that
we
wouldn't
want
too
many
of
them.
We
only
had
six
in
the
last
six
years,
so
you
know
that's
something
that
we
can
look
at
potentially
the
number
of
units
in
in
these
districts
and
and
where
they're
permitted
multi-family
review.
J
You
could,
under
today's
rules,
subdivide
that
to
have
two
separate
parcels,
each
with
one
single
family,
home
and
potentially
an
accessory
dwelling
unit.
So
you
almost
get
four
units
out
of
it
or
you
can
have
a
duplex
which
you
know.
Anybody
really
would
choose
a
single-family
option.
You
get
more
and
it's
a
product
that
most
people
know
and
understand,
and
that's
why
we
have
a
lack
of
multifamily
options
and
and
not
an
efficient
use
of
land.
J
So
for
this
review
we
would
look
at
why
people
aren't
building
these
and
and
looking
back
to
the
historic
reference
of
the
1948
asheville
code.
We
actually
learned
really,
interestingly,
that
multi-family
units
were
allowed
in
all
residential
districts
and
you
could
you
could
build
a
lot
more
of
them
without
having
to
double
your
square
footage.
You
wouldn't
need
10,000
square
feet
to
build
to
you.
Would
you
would
only
need
an
extra
500
square
feet
of
area
to
build
an
additional
unit?
We're
not
saying
that
we
should
go
back
to
that.
J
But
the
point
is
that
ash
flows,
history
included
a
lot
more
flexibility
for
multifamily
housing
in
the
40s
than
it
does.
Today
we
could
look
at
the
lot
standards.
There
are
rules
that
govern
how
wide
the
lot
needs
to
be
minimum
lot,
wits
the
law
area-
and
it's
a
very
one-size-fits-all
approach
that
in
many
cases,
doesn't
work.
Some
some
Lots
begin
really
narrow,
and
then
they
end
wide
in
the
back
or
vice
versa.
J
J
Tiny
house
issues
are
big.
Recently,
a
lot
of
people
are
talking
about
tiny
homes.
The
thing
is
currently
anybody
can
build
a
tiny
home
on
a
foundation
in
Asheville,
it's
permitted.
You
can
buy
a
lot
and
build
a
300
square
foot
home.
There's
no
problem
with
that.
The
issue
is
that
we
have
minimum
standards
for
the
lot
size
and
land
is
a
huge
part
of
the
cost
of
housing,
so
you're
required
to
have
a
minimum
5,000
square
foot
site,
regardless
of
whether
you're
building
a
4,000
square,
foot
home
or
a
300
square
foot
home.
J
So
we
think
there's
been
some
potential
to
look
at
potential
overlay
zones
where
we
allow
the
lot
size
and
the
lot
wit
standards
to
come
down
a
little
bit.
If
your
house
comes
down
proportionally
to-
and
there
there's
a
large
market
of
people
who
want
to
live
with
less,
they
don't
want
to
have
as
much
area
to
more
or
three
more
here.
One
issue
is
looking
at
a
higher
density
residential
zone
as
a
transition
zone
between
higher
intensity
uses
like
industrial
or
manufacturing
and
residential
districts.
J
We
do
have
an
RM
RM
16
district,
which
allows
some
bit
of
higher
density,
but
not
not
much,
and
especially
in
places
close
to
the
CBD.
We
really
it
would
be
nice
to
have
this
tool,
because,
typically,
what
we
have
to
do
is
just
go
straight
to
a
conditional
zoning,
but
we
would
like
to
have
a
higher
density
transition
corridor
in
district.
J
The
conservation
development
idea
is
a
tool
that
would
allow
developers
to
protect
open
space
and
natural
resources.
Currently,
if
a
developer
buys
a
piece
of
land
or
owns
a
piece
of
land-
and
there
is
some
beautiful
trees
on
it,
they
really
don't
have
any
mechanism
to
protect
those
trees.
A
conservation
development
would
allow
them
to
flex
the
standards
for
their
lot
sizes
if
they
put
the
open
space
together
as
a
public
in
perpetuity
open
space.
That
is
that
that
could
be
for
for
open
space
purposes.
It
could
be
for
natural
features.
J
It
would
just
basically
give
more
flexibility
for
developers
who
have
an
interest
in
doing
the
right
thing
on
the
right
property
and
the
sustainability
devote
bonus.
This
is
the
last
last
proposal.
This
is
an
ordinance,
that's
all
in
the
books
today
that
hasn't
been
used.
It
really
has
a
lot
in
it
that
that
I
think
makes
it
unviable,
you're
required
to
have
affordable
housing,
you're
required
to
have
green
standards
and
require
to
be
certain
certain
distance
to
transit
corridors,
and
perhaps
that's
why
it
hasn't
been
used.
J
So
we
propose
to
look
at
that
and
I'll
say,
though,
that
all
of
the
proposals
that
we're
talking
about
are
really
sustainable
because
we're
looking
at
infill
development,
any
infill
development
is
this
leading
to
a
community
that
is
more
walkable,
that's
that
it
makes
it
more
viable
to
have
transit
and
that
uses
land
much
more
efficiently.
So
don't
think
that
this
is
our
only
sort
of
sustainable
ordinance
that
we're
talking
about.
So
what
are
we
proposing
as
the
next
steps?
J
We
would
your
guidance
draft
some
considerations
to
flesh
out
more
of
these
potential
ordinances,
develop
an
implementation
schedule
for
housework
and
go
through
all
the
committee's
and
the
public
process
and
develop
a
communication
plan
with
our
communications
outreach
office
to
move
forward.
Thank
you.
That
concludes
my
presentation.
J
C
D
I
just
want
to
thank
you
and
Todd
and
the
rest
of
the
staff
we're
looking
into
this.
It's
a
great
set
of
tools
and
I.
Don't
know
if
we
need
to
say
yes
go
forward
and
didn't
do
this,
but,
but
I
would
I
would
certainly
be
in
favor
of
that
we
we
know.
We
know
all
of
the
reasons
that
we
need
to
do
this,
and
it's
it's
great
to
see
that
we're
exploring
some
of
these.
So
thanks
this.
L
J
L
J
B
E
Made
it
clear
that
the
need
for
new,
affordable
housing
units
in
the
city
was
about
5,400
over
the
next
five
years
and
that,
with
all
the
tools
that
we
had
at
the
time
and
all
of
the
money
that
we're
putting
towards
that,
we
were
only
going
to
be
able
to
achieve
about
half
of
that
of
affordable
units,
either
created
or
supported,
with
our
existing
tools
and
partners
and
other
resources.
And
at
the
time,
what
we
determined
that
we
needed
was
more
partners,
more
tools,
more
resources,
and
this
brings
more
tools
to
the
table.
E
And
so
it
it
gives
me
heart
that
we
can
come
closer
to
meeting.
That
really
broad
need,
and
this
is
something
that
I've
brought
up
a
lot.
I
wasn't
aware
of
the
1948
plan,
but
if
you
go
around
Montford
and
you
look
at
places
that
are
90
years
old,
you
or
80
years
old,
you
see
a
lot
of
the
multifamily
in
our
historic
neighborhoods.
D
J
Are
the
the
proposals
that
are
that
we've
sort
of
been
cooking
or
have
been
somehow
brought
to
our
attention
most
and
have
sort
of
risen
to
the
surface?
I
believe
we
may
have
some
other
considerations,
but
if
we're
talking
about
2016,
we
think
that
probably
four
of
these
might
be
realistic,
giving
enough
time
for
the
public
to
really
weigh
in
and
to
go
through
enough
of
a
process
that
we
think
everybody
is
heard
and
has
the
time
to
to
weigh
in.
A
A
That
concludes
our
council
meeting
for
this
weed
one
in
it.
That's
20
tweed
in
we
didn't
have
it
yeah.
Now
we
got
to
do.
We
have
I,
have
three
people
that
are
signed
up
for
people
that
are
signed
up
this
week
and
the
first
one
is
Jeff
and
I'm,
not
gonna,
say
your
last
name
right
Kemp
commit
Kaminsky
during
our
public
comment
period.
You
have
three
minutes
to
speak.
B
I
On
behalf
of
the
half
dozen
families,
who
are
my
neighbors,
we've
tried
to
raise
our
concerns
about
boetticher
Greenway
with
the
greenways
committee,
the
multimodal
transportation
commission
and
the
recreation
advisory
board.
I'm
still
here,
we
all
know
what
a
greenway
is
supposed
to
look
like,
probably
not
that
this
is
a
stretch
of
South
beaumont
street,
the
bouquet
to
greenway
plans,
as
they
can't
y'all
have
the
pedestrian
part
of
the
green
we're
going
around
here
and
put
cyclists
on
the
road.
The
people
in
the
house
down
the
end
here
have
a
concrete
wall.
I
Three
foot
tall,
nine
inches
deep
thick
to
stop
slow
out
of
control
vehicles
from
sliding
into
their
house.
According
to
our
latest
plans,
that's
going
away!
This
is
a
stretch
of
road
that
has
the
potential
to
brand,
as
well
as
the
only
city
where
you
can
get
crushed
by
a
truck
while
you're
walking
on
a
green
way.
I
readily
told
that
living
on
the
Greenway
puts
up
your
property
prices.
The
problem
is:
when
I
look
around
I
see
greenways
crossing
people's
travois.
I
What
this
plan
is
going
to
do
is
to
convert
our
driveway
here
into
a
green
one.
The
proper
safety
problem
here
is
that
the
division
between
our
driver
in
the
Greenway
runs
around
here
is
a
wooden
barrier.
It
takes
away
our
ability
to
use
this
verge
to
dodge
oncoming
vehicles,
and
so
it
turns
out
driveway
which,
as
you
can
see,
has
blank
blind
corners
into
a
warm
into
a
one-way
street.
I
G
I
The
million
dollars
a
year
ago,
the
alternative
routes
were
the
northern
half
of
the
Greenway
well
priced
between
250,000
and
three
and
a
half
million.
By
the
end
of
last
year,
the
press
was
telling
us
it
was
nearly
form
again.
The
cheapest
alternative
was
the
one
valued
our
property,
our
privacy
and
our
security
at
zero
and
made
the
mistaken
assumption
that
we
would
meekly
accept
this
estimates
for
all
the
other
routes,
except
acknowledge.
The
property
acquisition
is
not
normally
free.
I
I
I
K
L
G
K
M
M
H
You
have
a
presentation
tonight
about
in
filling
in
small
homes.
It
all
sounds
wonderful
and
marvelous.
I
will
tell
you
a
story
of
one
house,
though,
that
was
affected
by
an
in
filling
everyone
knows.
Everyone
knows.
This
is
a
beautiful
state
and
with
the
topography,
the
steep
slopes,
you
have
a
number
of
employees
for
the
city
of
Asheville
that
work
on
storm
water
remediation,
so
that
it
doesn't
destroy
your
city.
H
But
when
you
have
an
infield
house
that
doesn't
have
any
obligation
to
mind
the
water
that
previously
went
into
where
that
house
now
sits
that
water
runs
off,
there
are
no
rules,
no
regulations
in
the
building
code
for
minding
that
water.
My
daughter
owns
a
hundred
year
old
house
that
now
has
a
wet
basement.
Her
retaining
wall
is
collapsing.
The
dirt
is
now
eroding,
because
there
is
no
remediation
for
the
water
that
once
went
right
into
the
ground.
That
house
has
a
certificate
of
occupancy.
There
are
people
living
there.
H
H
It's
only
a
house
of
one,
but
the
topography
in
the
Asheville
is
sloped
like
that,
so
his
water
flows
into
her
yard
and
into
her
basement
and
now
they
are
practicing
her
walls
of
a
hundred
year
old
house,
and
you
know
how
difficult
that
is
to
fix
so
I'm
asking
please
consider
putting
in
some
regulations
for
getting
rid
of
that
water
that
no
longer
can
go
where
you
Stu
I
do
have
one
other
thing,
and
it's
on
that
paper.
Yes,.
H
C
D
N
N
Good,
so
my
name
is
brew:
Davis
I
live
on
Hildebrand
street,
which
is
right
over
here
and
just
for
a
frame
of
reference,
City
Hall
and
where
we
are
in
here
somewhere,
and
so
we
live
on
Hildebrand
right
here
and,
as
you
probably
know,
the
BB&T
building
has
been
constructed
right
here
in
the
hilton
garden
is
going
up
right
here
we
had
a
three-year-old
daughter
and
I
hope.
No
one
in
here
knows
us,
but
my
wife
is
pregnant
and
no.
A
G
N
Technically
the
noise
ordinance
says
that
they're
allowed
to
work
until
the
leaven
p.m.
and
that,
if
you
can
see
down
here,
it
says
daytime
now
or
seven
a.m.
to
11pm
I.
Don't
know
there
might
be
some
reasons
constructionwise
that
I'm
unaware
of
it
to
me.
11Pm
doesn't
seem
like
daytime
and
when
you
have
a
three-year-old
daughter
at
home,
you
know
that
it's
not
daytime
so
I
guess.
N
My
first
hope
is
that
it
could
be
considered
to
the
cheek
and
consider
maybe
moving
that
closer
to
an
actual
date,
I'm
our
maybe
like
7am
to
7pm
and
I
guess.
The
second
question
is:
is
you
know,
we've
been
woken
up?
My
daughter
tried
put
her
down
at
eight-thirty.
There
was
Jack,
hammering
at
eight
thirty
at
night.
Within
close
proximity
mean-
probably
just
you
know,
75
to
100
yards
of
where
we
live
Jack,
hammering
at
eight-thirty
leaf
blowing
I,
don't
even
know
why
they
were
leaf.
N
N
It's
a
very
ambiguous
noise,
ordinance
and
I
spoke
to
a
fellow
in
the
pervading
office,
and
he
explained
that
that's
by
design
I
just
hope
that
that
can
be
reconsidered
and
that
if
people
live
in
close
proximity
to
a
business
commercial
district
that
there
could
be
some
buffer
for
those
of
us
residents
who
live,
you
know
within
a
couple
hundred
yards.
So
thanks.
B
D
B
D
A
Can
we
look
into
it
and
then
have
you
because
you
have
contact
information
and
have
a
research
I
mean
I.
I
am
10
feet
away
from
the
new
mckibben
hotel
going
in
next
to
us
and
those
guys
started
eight
and
finish
at
five
thirty,
and
that
is
it
so
I
I
haven't
had
this
experience,
but
I'm
not
I'm
sure
it
exists.
So
I
wrote
stuff.
So
we
can.
We
look
in
tirupati
birthday,
all
right,
okay,
kelly
and
your
last
name.
My.
G
Last
name
is
Paul
m'dear,
I'm,
family
Mahmoud
here
and
I
live
right
in
Asheville
and
I
am
an
active
member
of
Nashville's,
tiny
home
association,
which
is
a
very
vibrant,
active
group
with
growing
membership,
and
so
I
wanted
to
hear
the
presentation
tonight
and
now
that
I've
heard
everything
that
was
laid
forth.
I
wanted
to
speak
out
and
say
that
I
fully
support
the
presentation
and
I.
G
Thank
you
all
for
giving
it
the
consideration
that
it's
due
from
my
conversations
with
the
other
members
at
the
tiny
home
association
I,
can
tell
you
that
the
cottage
development,
the
multifamily
proposal,
the
tiny
house,
is
owning.
These
are
all
things
that
would
be
very
well
received
by
the
members
of
our
group
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
I
happen
to
be
very
interested
in
purchasing
a
small
lot
near
downtown.
That
is
just
under
5,000
square
feet
and,
of
course,
with
the
current
regulations.
G
If
you're
looking
at
tiny
home,
you
can
easily
get
a
a
well-planned
tiny
home
in
much
much
less
than
1,200
square
feet.
So,
if
you're
looking
to
solve
the
affordable
housing
crisis
and
the
home
availability
crisis
here,
the
proposal
that
was
made
early
tonight
will
definitely
help
with
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.