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A
Good
afternoon
and
welcome
to
the
asheville
city
council,
affordable
housing
workshop
work
session.
Rather
this
is
a
work
session
dedicated
to
the
topic
of
affordable
housing,
and
this.
B
A
As
of
with
all
of
our
work
sessions,
we
don't
take
public
comment,
nor
do
we
vote
on
anything
so
we're
these
are
more
information
sessions,
and
with
that
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
the
city
manager,
deborah
campbell.
It
will
kick.
C
Off
so
thank
you
mayor,
good
afternoon,
everyone.
I
know
this
is
kind
of
a
long
day
for
some
of
you.
I've
been
in
meetings
earlier
with
you,
so
I
really
really
appreciate
you
all
allowing
us
to
kind
of
squeeze
this
work.
D
C
In
this
topic,
around
affordable
housing
is
just
so
critical
and
important
to
our
community.
You
may
recall
that
in
2019
we
had
a
similar
kind
of
conversation
with
council
around
affordable
housing,
and
if
there
was
one
thing
that
we
learned
through
that
session-
and
I
don't
think
we
needed
that
section
to.
C
Housing
and
the.
C
C
C
But
again
what
we
have
learned
is
that
it
takes
a
village.
It
is
not
just
the
city's
responsibility
to
address
this
need.
We
can't
we
don't
have
the
resources
and
we
have
to
partner.
We
have
to
rely
on
the
entire
community
to
help
us
address
this
need
now,
I'm
going
to
get
out
of
the
way
and
really
let
the
experts
paul
d'angelo
and
nikki
reed,
who
are
with
our
community
and
economic
development
department,
they're
going
to
do
the
heavy
lifting
and
essentially
what
we
hope
to
get
out
of
this
conversation
with
you
is.
C
We
are
going
to
share
a
little
bit
more
information
about
you,
know
the
complexity
of
housing
and
again
delivering
this
product
talking
about
the
needs
and
how
significant
they
are
within
our
market
rehash
kind
of
some
of
the
city's
approach.
What
we
have
done
in
the
past
projects
that
we
have
completed
are
are
currently
underway
and
then,
as
the
mayor
said,
we
don't
necessarily
want
you
all
to
take
any
action,
but
we
would
like
a
conversation
around
whether
you
think
that
we
are
going
in
the
right
direction.
C
I
think
what
you
will
find
is
that
we
are
trying
to
address
a
broad
spectrum
of
needs.
We
use
that
term
continuing
of
housing,
and
that
means
all
the
way
from
someone
who
is
homeless
to
all
the
way
to
someone
who's
at
100
or
eighty
percent
of
the
area,
median
income.
So
at
the
end
of
this
session,
beginning
with
the
end
in
mind,
essentially
we
want
to
share
with
you
a
work
plan
for
2021
and
get
you
all's
kind
of
nod
as
yeah.
C
C
Also
before
we
start,
we
do
have
some
schedule
kind
of
q
and
a,
but
please
feel
free
to
ask
questions
as
we
progress
through
the
presentation,
because
there
there
are
a
lot
of
slides,
so
please
and
feel
free
to
interrupt.
So.
Thank
you
very
much
paul.
G
Thanks
very
much
for
that
city
manager
campbell.
We
appreciate
that
good
afternoon,
mayor
and
city
council
paul
d'angelo
here
with
the
community
and
economic
development
department,
and
I'm
going
to
get
us
started
here,
along
with
my
partner
in
community
and
economic
development,
nikki
reed.
Who
will
lead
up
the
second
half
of
this
presentation,
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
get
us
started.
I
think
that
city
manager
covered
a
lot
of
that.
G
So,
unfortunately,
it
is
a
numbers
game
more
often
than
not,
and
it's
not
just
a
numbers
game
for
the
developer
who's
trying
to
put
together
a
balance
sheet
in
a
pro
forma
based
on
expenses,
the
income
they
expected
to
receive
and
the
very
important
cash
flow
that
the
banks
want
to
receive.
But
it's
also
a
number
scheme
for
our
individuals
and
families
in
nashville
who
are
struggling
to
make
their
balance
sheets
work
with
our
higher
housing
cost
in
this
area
next
slide.
G
So
a
mismatch
often
occurs
between
the
lower
wages
that
we
have
here
in
nashville,
as
well
as
the
higher
housing
costs
and
the
pricing
of
housing
here
in
nashville
also
a
mismatch
with
those
developers
who
are
at
the
table
trying
to
make
affordable
housing
work
in
their
projects
that
they're
building
often
a
mismatch
there
between
their
expenses
and
that
cash
flow,
as
well
as
a
supply
and
demand
issue.
Asheville's
got
a
very
high
demand
market.
G
G
G
So
we
work
a
lot
with
the
urban
land
institute
and
they
list
those
top
nine
challenges
for
pretty
much
any
affordable
housing
in
any
community,
whether
that's
cost
of
capital,
lack
of
building
efficiency,
materials,
lack
of
density,
nimbyism,
etc.
There
one
that's,
definitely
unique
to
asheville
on
that
list
of
nine.
There
is
the
land
prices
and
availability.
G
We
have
a
very
tight
land
market
and
very
high
land
prices.
One
acre
of
land
in
or
close
to
the
city's
urban
core
we've
seen
go
for
a
million
to
two
million
dollars,
just
in
the
last
several
months.
G
G
What
analysts
often
call
we
suffer
from
our
own
quality
of
life
because
everyone
wants
to
come
to
asheville
this
great
place,
high
demand
for
housing,
but
a
low
supply,
and
we
also
have
more
of
a
service
and
tourism
and
economy
here
in
asheville.
Hence
we
often
have
lower
wages
that
comes
along
with
that
type
of
economy.
Next
slide.
G
So
local
housing
challenges
here
looking
at
homes
by
price.
We've
noticed
this
trend
in
home
ownership
over
the
last
several
years.
The
boeing
report,
which
is
our
housing
needs
assessment,
had
this
slide,
which
certainly
comes
alive
here,
because
it
shows
in
2014
versus
july,
of
2019
about
a
five-year
span.
The
number
of
houses
available
for
sale
at
certain
price
points
has
dropped
dramatically
next
slide
and,
more
importantly,
when
it
comes
to
homes
for
sale.
G
The
community
and
economic
development
department
did
two
checks
for
city
council,
one
in
september
and
one
in
early
december
and
in
those
two
checks
for
for
sale
housing.
This
past
fall,
as
I
said,
there
were
only
38
homes.
On
average,
in
the
city
of
asheville,
listed
for
sale
under
275
000
out
of
approximately
275
listings
that
275
000
for
sale
price,
we
feel
can
work
with
an
individual
or
family
at
or
below
100
of
the
area
median
income.
G
We
track
that
for
a
hack,
the
affordable
housing
advisory
committee
every
month
to
keep
an
eye
on
how
many
homes,
even
in
the
last
year
and
a
half,
that's
really
decreased
to
here.
Two
checks
of
38
homes
and,
in
addition,
the
average
for
sale
price
of
those
275
dwellings
listed,
was
approximately
six
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
dollars.
D
G
Median
for
sale
price
for
the
275
was
about
522
000
and
our
realtor
friends,
who
are
at
the
table
remind
us
often
at
that
of
those
38
homes.
Only
about
25
to
30
of
those
would
be
move-in
ready,
based
on
realtor
experience,
so
we
really
have
a
very
low
supply
of
housing
that
can
be
utilized
for
individuals
and
families
at
or
below
100
of
the
area
median
income.
Next.
H
G
And
if
we're
thinking
here
about
right
now,
our
rental
vacancy
rate,
the
vacancy
rate
for
our
market
rate
apartments
as
we
take
a
look
at
the
rental
market-
is
hovering
around
5
from
a
recent
check
last
month.
G
That
is
a
healthy
market
driven
place
to
be
where
you're
going
to
see
a
balance
to
a
certain
extent
with
prices,
but
you're
also
going
to
see
new
units
online
come
online
because
we
need
additional
supply,
but
it
has
a
good
tendency
to
at
least
somewhat
control
prices,
although
we've
seen
quite
you
know,
some
serious
price
increases
over
the
last
five
years.
As
you
can
imagine,
the
vacancy
rate
for
affordable
apartments
remains
at
zero
to
point
two
percent.
If
the
affordable
unit
comes
available,
it
is
immediately
filled
up
those
affordable
apartment.
G
Vacancy
rates
remain
low
and
have
consistently
for
the
last
five
years
next
slide
and
thinking
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
more
about
the
rental
versus
the
home
ownership
market.
To
try
to
bring
this
home
a
little
bit.
This
slide
is
really
interesting
because
it
shows
an
income
trend
two
or
three
four
years
ago.
You
would
see
the
tipping
point
when
people
move
from
rental
and
go
over
to
home
ownership
at
or
about
that
50
to
60
000
household
income
range
that
has
climbed
up
the
income
chart.
G
So
now
we're
seeing
more
and
more
folks,
even
at
70,
75
or
80,
not
quite
being
able
to
for
afford
homeownership
in
nashville,
so
the
remaining
renters,
so
that
challenge
for
people
to
move
into
home
ownership
for
wealth
building
for
all
of
our
individuals
and
families
in
asheville
is
climbing
up
the
income
shark
to
to
about
70
to
80
000,
to
be
able
to
afford
a
home
in
nashville
next
slide,
nikki.
G
I
G
Taking
a
look
here
from
the
boeing
report,
our
housing
needs
assessment
at
our
folks
that
are
cost
burdened
about.
Nearly
half
of
our
renters
are
cost
burden,
which
means
they're
paying
more
than
30
percent
of
their
income
costs
towards
housing.
Nearly
half
of
our
folks
out
there
about
20
percent
of
renters,
one
in
every
five,
are
severely
cost
burdened,
paying
more
than
50
percent
of
their
income
towards
housing
costs
and
reminder
the
more
they're
spending
on
housing,
the
less
less
they're
able
to
spend
on
other
costs
for
their
household
rising
grants.
G
As
I
mentioned,
even
though
we
have
that
five
percent
vacancy
rate,
which
is
helpful
for
somewhat
controlling
rental
prices,
since
2014
rent
in
nashville,
has
increased
by
about
5.2
annually.
G
So
if
you
were
a
renter
in
2014
spending
a
thousand
dollars
a
month,
that
would
now
be
approximately
one
thousand
three
hundred
fifty
dollars
next
slide
and
again.
The
owner
for
our
housing
needs
assessment.
Go
into
the
for
sale
folks
about
one
of
every
five
of
our
homeowners
are
cost
burdened
more
than
thirty
percent
of
their
income
towards
housing
and
about
eight
percent
of
our
households
on
in
home.
G
G
You
hear
people
say
the
area
meeting
income
is
72
500.
That's
often
what's
used
to
talk
about
a
family
of
four
at
a
hundred
percent,
so
that's
kind
of
where,
in
conversations
they'll
say
earning
an
income,
actual
72
500,
100
percent
for
persons,
but
you
can
see
there's
a
lot
of
other
incomes
there,
80
60
that
are
out
there
and
it's
important
to
note
as
an
example,
the
average
renter
salary
comes
in
at
about
eight
thousand
dollars.
G
So
if
you're
looking
at
this
area,
median
income
chart
okay,
our
average
venture
that
might
be
near
100
area
median
income.
Actually
it's
between
50
and
60
percent
of
the
area.
Meeting
income
coming
in
at
twenty
eight
thousand
dollars
is
the
average
renter
salary
or
hourly
wage.
That's
data
from
the
national
low
income
housing
coalition
for
north
carolina
next.
C
G
Nikki
and
then
taking
a
look
at
the
approximate
average
rent
in
asheville,
which
comes
in
at
about
1200
everything
in
red
those
household
incomes,
whether
it's
one,
two
three
four
persons
cannot
afford
the
average
rent
in
asheville,
so
even
a
single
person,
100
ami
one,
two
or
three,
eighty
percent
ami,
and
pretty
much
anybody
below
sixty
percent
of
area
median
income.
Next.
C
G
Nikki
for
the
mortgage
coming
in
at
about
with
the
average
housing
cost
of
about
325
give
or
take
325
000
that
mortgage
comes
in
at
1625.
G
You
can
see
that
even
more
folks
can't
afford
this
average
mortgage,
the
average
housing
cost
in
in
our
area,
median
incomes
and
our
salaries,
nearly
no
one
at
80
percent
ami
can
afford
that
except
a
six-person
household,
and
I
would
guarantee
probably
that
that
325
house
is
not
four
or
six
people,
and
so
even
half
of
our
people
at
a
hundred
percent
ami
that
seventy
two
thousand
five
hundred
dollar
family,
I
talked
about.
G
So
part
of
our
challenge
too,
as
we're
in
partnership
at
the
table
and
understanding
our
roles,
funding,
city,
land,
convener,
capital,
conventor,
collaborator
funding
is
an
important
part
of
this,
but
we
have
to
understand
what
that
subsidy
is,
so
we
can
expect
if
we're
helping
an
individual
or
family
at
or
below,
30
30
to
60
or
80
ami
we're
going
to
need.
G
There
is
a
subsidy
that
needs
to
be
filled
by
someone
that
gap
of
eighty
thousand
a
hundred
thousand
or
a
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollars
per
unit,
and
it
kind
of
flips
as
well
into
home
ownership
too,
because
when
we
talk
about
down
payment
assistance
in
a
certain
extent
those
numbers
are
very
similar
and
what's
needed
to
get
into
a
home
mathematically.
Something
that's
easy
to
figure
out
if,
like
paul,
how
does
that
gap
work?
G
If
you
think
that
the
average
rent
is
twelve
hundred
dollars,
but
we're
asking
the
developer
to
charge
only
800,
that's
a
400
a
month
difference
times,
12
months
times,
20
years,
which
is
usually
our
affordability
period.
That's
96!
000!
That's
needed
there
to
support
that
lower
rent
over
that
20-year
period.
C
G
Of
course,
the
bank
and
developer
are
trying
to
fill
that
the
bank
has
those
questions.
It
can
be
really
difficult.
That
gap
depends
on
your
ami
length
of
affordability
location
to
build,
but
those
numbers
should
look
familiar
from
the
september
2016
work
or
2019
work
session
next
slide,
nikki,
so
a
good
amount
of
data
there.
We
wanted
to
offer
some
breaks
for
you
all
to
see
if
there
were
any
initial
questions
on
that.
This
first
round
of
slides.
F
Oh,
it's
gwen
when
we're
considering
housing
costs
for
condominiums.
Does
that
include
the
homeowners
association
or
the
condo
fee,
or
not.
G
It
can
and
on
our
home
ownership
calculator
that
we
have,
which
is
known
as
appendix
2.,
we're
going
to
try
to
put
an
actual
live
version
on
the
city
website
for
people
to
calculate
it.
But
we
do
include
right
now,
50
for
a
condo
which
you
know
is
very
low.
So
we
adjust
that
when
we
look
at
the
prices,
but
it
does
include
a
condo
fee,
often.
H
Thank
you
call
great
summary
of
the
boeing
report.
I'm
curious
in
light
of
all
these
larger
projects
that
keep
trying
to
develop
the
south
by
the
city,
I'm
wondering
has
patrick
bowen
or
the
researcher.
H
C
H
G
I
want
to
say
that
that
can
happen
when
you
see
an
8
to
10
vacancy
rate
that
you'll
see
those
price
changes.
Patrick
bowen
is
watching
live
on
youtube,
knowing
him,
he
will
probably
text
me
that
figure,
so
I
will
be
able
to
get
that
nikki
and
I
have
some
support
folks
on
youtube
just
in
case,
but
we
can
get
that
figure.
I
think
it's
about
eight
to
ten
percent.
G
G
All
right
I'll
continue
nikki
next
slide,
please.
So
if
you
remember,
from
our
september
2019
work
session,
there
were
a
few
takeaways
that
we
had
there
supporting
partners
already
doing
the
hardest
work.
Those
folks
working
with
the
individuals
and
families
under
sixty
percent
of
the
area.
Immediate
income
identify
the
gaps
in
the
partnerships,
the
funding,
the
programs,
the
incentives,
the
regulations
and
fill
so
much
fill
them.
So
the
municipal
resources
can
go
farther
for
the
60
80
100
percent
ami
individuals.
G
That
means
examining
our
policies,
our
incentives,
taking
a
look
at
new
funding
that
might
come
around.
The
four
percent
tax
bond
recently
had
an
adjustment
that
should
make
those
numbers
work
better,
so
very
important
for
us
to
understand
those
gaps,
call
on
for-profit
developers
and
lenders
to
be
a
part
of
the
solution
and
to
build
community
coalition
and
bring
our
partners
to
the
table.
G
So
hopefully,
we'll
demonstrate
in
a
few
minutes
how
we're
trying
to
do
that,
and
so
in
on
this,
this
complicated
world
that
we
live
in.
We
we
try
to
simplify
it
this
as
much
as
possible.
So
we
look
at
our
role,
especially
when
the
funding
and
the
policies
and
the
incentives
that
we
need
to
either
invest
upfront
on
the
build
and
incentivize
the
developer
or
invest
on
the
back
end
and
subsidize
the
rent
or
home
ownership.
G
So
we're
trying
to
just
you
know,
simplify
this
as
much
as
possible
because
it's
tough
work,
a
lot
of
moving
parts
and,
of
course,
to
do
that.
We
need
those
partners
who
are
either
developers
or
the
partners
who
are
really
working
with
the
families
next
slide,
np.
G
G
Of
any
kind
is
bringing
that
to
us
for
that,
for
the
rental
in
particular,
we
hopefully
have
some
policies
that
can
match
with
the
work
that
they
do
and
being
a
part
of
the
solution,
whether
that's
the
disposition
of
city-owned
land,
where
we're
using
city
land
for
affordable
housing,
our
housing
trust
fund,
which
is
our
own
internal
bank,
where
we're
able
to
offer
low
interest
loans.
Our
land
use
incentive.
C
G
Sewer
district
offers
a
discount
between
a
market
unit
and
an
affordable
unit
where
the
developer
saves
about
1200.
D
G
75
to
100
off
many
of
your
fees
in
exchange
for
affordable
housing,
you
get
more
of
that.
Those
fees
back
for
the
unit,
the
higher
level
of
affordability,
the
deeper
subsidy
of
a
deeper
ami
you're
trying
to
work
with,
and
we
also
offer
expedited
review
to
move
the
project
through
quaker
and
development
services
in.
G
A
couple
other
incentives
in
funding
we
have
is
the
home
investment
partnership
bonds,
mostly
for
the
construction
of
affordable
housing
and
tenant-based
rental
assistance,
tbra
through
hud,
the
department
of
housing
and
urban
development.
We
also
have
25
million
dollar,
affordable
housing
bond
nikki,
and
I
will
have
an
update
on
that
in
a
few
slides
from
now
next
slide
nikki
and
then
we're
also
thinking
of
partners
at
other
wheelhouse
that
the
city
is
a
convener
collaborator.
G
We
are
looking
at
partners
working
with
mission,
driven
tax,
credit,
non-profit
and
for-profit
developers
who,
by
nature,
can
attack
different
levels
of
those
ami
30,
50
60..
The
for-profit
developers
usually
will
do
that
80
and
under
the
60
and
all
of
those
developers.
All
of
those
partners
can
help
us
produce,
preserve
and
protect,
affordable
housing
and
very
important
to
note
and
remind
from
the
september
workshop
of
2019
that
we
really
do
need
for-profit
developers
at
the
table
to
be
a
part
of
the
solution.
G
We
can't
build
our
way
out
of
our
deficit
or
challenges
without
all
developers
at
the
table
and
some
type
of
funding
or
incentive
to
work
with
them.
So
this
slide.
I
often
say
is
kind
of
the
world
that
that
nikki
and
I
live
in
on
many
days
where
we
recognize
our
role
as
a
funder,
and
so
we
have
some
very
good
incentives,
including
city-owned
land.
There
there's
other
tools
I
mentioned.
We
have
to
understand
what
funding
is
out
there
for
the
variety
of
developers.
G
Of
course,
the
area
needed
incomes
that
we're
trying
to
address
whether
that's
homeless,
up
to
several
amis,
whether
it's
rehab,
preserving
or
protecting,
maintaining
permanent
affordability
and
then,
of
course,
trying
to
match
that,
with
a
variety
of
developers
out
there,
mission
driven
tax,
credit,
non-profit
and
for-profits,
and
all
of
that
with
the
community
in
mind
of
what
they're
looking
for
to
have
a
place
to
call
home,
and
so
we
try
to
live
in
this
world
to
be
able
to
match
tools
with
amis
with
partners
in
funding
next
slide.
G
So
another
break
for
you
all
and
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
D
Hey
paul
like
to
see
if
you
could
actually
have
another
question
in
a
second,
though,
can
you
do
like
a
brief
discussion
kind
of
relating
to
sage's
earlier
point
that
how
even,
though,
is
counter-intuitive,
sometimes
private
developers,
building
apartments
that
are
not
affordable,
end
up
being
a
positive
on
the
market
based
on
basic
supply
and
demand
economic
theory?
Can
you
go
over
that
a
little
bit.
G
G
C
G
Because
there's
a
supply
and
ar
keep
adding
that
supply,
because
there's
a
demand
and
they're
not
going
to
have
to
worry
too
much
about
the
pricing
because
they
know
that
if
they
build
it,
they
will
come
they
will.
They
will
most
likely
be
able
to
pay
that
approximately
twelve
hundred
dollar
rent,
because
the
building
that
was
just
built
laced
up
like
that.
G
C
G
Vacancy
rates
are
staying
at
that
five
percent.
There
still
seems
to
be
a
strong
rental
market
in
nashville,
and
if
that
continues
with
the
not
a
huge
supply
and
high
demand
it,
it
doesn't
allow
those
rents
to
come
down
as
much
as
we
would
like,
or
at
least
level
off.
D
And
then
I
have
a
question
that
just
came
in
from
somebody
watching
the
meeting,
so
I
can
relay
that
to
you.
If
you
want
it
says,
can
the
city
require
private
developers
who
receive
incentives
to
accept
housing,
choice,
vouchers.
G
So
right
now
recently
the
land
use
incentive
grant.
We
changed
and
updated
that
policy
in.
I
believe
it
was
october
november,
where
we
now
to
get
that
property
tax
rebate
in
grant.
We
now
require
that
they
accept
housing,
choice
vouchers.
So
we
just
added
that
in
october
and
november,
and
I
believe
as
an
example,
you
know
the
20
80
20.
G
F
Paul
can
I
just
clarify,
though
councilwoman
mosley
didn't
specify
if,
if
the
city
is
not
involved
in
any
kind
of
incentive-
or
you
know-
I
mean
anything,
you
know
like
having
loaned
money
etc.
G
Do
not
believe
so
that
would
be
very
similar
to
what
would
be
called
inclusionary
zoning
of
some
type
where
we
require
20
units
to
be
affordable.
I
know
that
brad
branham
is
on
the
call
and
may
have
a
legal
perspective.
E
Yeah
thanks
paul,
I
think
you
nailed
it
perfectly
very,
very
close
to
the
concept
of
inclusionary
zoning
at
this
point
in
north
carolina.
We
do
not
have
the
legal
authority,
unfortunately,
to
place
that
obligation
as
a
standard
criteria
for
any
development.
E
However,
to
counsel
a
woman
mosley's
point:
if
we
have
a
subsidy
in
place
or
as
part
of
a
proposed
development
package,
the
housing
choice
voucher
must
much
like
the
inclusion
of
affordable
units
becomes
more
of
an
incentive-based
program
and
in
those
situations
we
do
have
much
more
flexibility
and
legal
standing
to
be
able
to
impose
that
obligation
as
a
condition
of
receiving
the
subsidy.
F
And
and
since
you've
now
introduced
a
term
inclusionary
zoning,
can
you
just
explain
for
the
thousands
of
people
out
there
in
television
land
listening
what
that
means
and
kind
of
give
a
brief
idea?
I
mean
you
know,
I
think
we
generally
know
some
cities
and
states
that
use
the
concept,
but
inclusionary
zoning
is
kind
of
a
wonky
term
that
maybe
you
could
explain
that
and
then
give
us
kind
of
a
background
on
what
and.
A
G
I'll
take
the
first
quick
initial
there,
which
is
inclusionary.
Zoning
is
a
tool,
that's
used
in
many
states
and
municipalities
across
the
country
where
they
require
developers
of
any
type.
If
they're
going
to
be
building
in
their
community,
they
require
some
level
of
affordability
in
those
units.
Usually
this
is
rental
and
usually
it's
a
minimum
of
20,
and
so
you
see
this,
I
think
many
examples
in
virginia
and
other
states
where
you
see
it
being
used
and
used
successfully.
G
The
developers
are
just
turning
away
and
going
to
another
community
they're
still
working
in
that
community.
They
understand
that
they
have
to
do
that
for
the
privilege
of
doing
business
in
that
community,
while
recognizing
we
don't
have
that
in
north
carolina
and
then
also
recognizing.
We
need
more
developers
at
the
table
more
partners
to
be
part
of
the
solution.
We
tried
to
find
ways
to
incentivize
that
with
the
for-profit
developers
with
that
20,
although
it
would
be
very
nice
to
see
that
come
in
at
the
state
level,
brad.
E
I
I
think
paul
nailed
it
and
I
don't
think
I'll,
add
too
much
at
the
risk
of
taking
our
thousands
of
years
and
reducing
it
to
hundreds
of
years.
By
my
own
comments,
I
will
only
add
that
this
is
a
factor
that
you
often
hear
about
with
a
variety
of
other
options
that
we
wish
we
had
at
the
municipal
level
in
terms
of
authority.
It
is
really
a
function
of
the
type
of
state
law
that
we
have
in
terms
of
how
cities
and
towns
and
counties
are
empowered.
E
Often
you
will
hear
referred
to
us
as,
what's
called
a
dylan's
rule
state,
as
opposed
to
a
home
rule
state
many
of
the
cities
around
the
country
that
you
see
employing
inclusionary
zoning
ordinances
locally.
Are
these
home
rule
states
whereby
the
cities
and
local
municipalities
have
a
great
deal
more
power
to
set
their
own
rules
than
we
do
here
in
north
carolina,
where
we're
under
a
different
framework?
So
right.
I
E
In
north
carolina
inclusionary
zoning
power
is
not
one.
That's
been
specifically
given
to
cities,
counties
and
towns
like
it
has
in
terms
of
home
rule
state.
D
And
so
brad,
thank
you
that
housing
church
voucher
could
be
properly
included
in
our
benefits.
Consideration
too
right.
E
I
think
that
is
absolutely
an
option
that
is
worth
some
consideration.
It
is
very
much
within
the
range
of
those
sorts
of
things
that
we
love
to
see
from
home
builders,
that
we
don't
have
the
authority
to
include
and
sort
of
buy
right
decisions,
but
absolutely
as
part
of
an
incentive-based
program
such
as
whether
it
be
through
subsidies
in
the
home
building
program
or
as
part
of
a
general
scheme
of
rezoning
approvals,
whereby
some
additional
consideration
or
option
to
streamline
the
process
would
be
given
to
the
developers.
B
I
do
have
a
couple
questions.
This
is
kim
what
are
the
current
barriers
to
the
city
developing
our
own,
affordable
housing.
G
So
councilwoman
brownie,
assuming
the
community
development
or
community
economic
development
department,
taking
on
the
role
as
actual
developers.
B
Sure
any
of
that
or
working
with
a
developer
to
build
on
city
owned
land,
for
example,.
G
So
I
think
we
are
going
to
be
providing
some
examples
of
partnerships
that
we've
done
over
the
past
year,
as
well
as
I'm
coming
up
on
the
pipeline
of
where
we're
partnering
with
developers
and
for
right
now.
The
city
is
definitely
looking
at
a
variety
of
partners.
They
are
contacting
us
because
we
think
working
with
partners
who
do
what
they
do
best
and
we
provide.
The
funding
is
right
now,
the
best
way
to
go
to
see
if
we
can
get
more
units
and
more
affordable
units
in
our
community.
G
A
B
The
next
question
is
for
when
we
have
partners
who
may
be
looking
at
mixed
use
or
if
there's
a
potential
for
a
cooperative
land
ownership
model
that
could
look
like
retail,
it
could
look
like
a
mix
of
if
we
consider
this
for
lodging
use
for
the
moratorium.
For
example,
what
are
our
options?
Our
urban
place,
zoning?
What
are
our
options
to
partner
with
folks
who
could
manage
the
rental
side
if,
for
example,
the
owner,
like,
let's
say
it's,
a
retail
or
a
grocery
opportunity,
wasn't
familiar
with
the
management
of
housing?
G
So
the
answer
I
would
think
and
make
sure
I'm
answering
the
question
is
there
are
a
lot
of
different
types
of
developers
out
there
who
do
any
type
of
affordable
work
or
building
work
and
what
you
are
kind
of
describing
a
bit
is
an
urban
infill
developer
per
se,
who's
used
to
building
apartments
on
the
top
and
some
kind
of
retail
level,
so
they're
used
to
working
in
that
type
of
world.
G
Some
developers
like
building
further
out
of
the
city,
three-story
garden
style,
walk-ups
other
developers
like
the
model
you're
talking
about
and
they're
used
to
working
with
activating
their
first
floor
and
activating
their
commercial
space,
as
well
as
building
the
units
and
adding
affordability.
You.
A
B
So
I
think
we
can
start
to
see
those
two
connected
since
we
do
need
housing
on
all
the
corridors
with
transit
access
and
close
to
groceries
and
jobs.
B
That's
not
a
question.
I'm
just
letting
folks
know
that
I'm
hoping
we
connect
that
to
our
hotel
moratorium
rules
and
not
just
have
folks
buy
their
way
out
of
housing,
but
help
to
participate
in
solutions
and
building
it.
G
H
Other
questions
I
just
have
one
more
comment:
maybe
two
circling
back
to
councilwoman
mosley's
coin,
about
the
private
market,
creating.
B
H
I
wanted
to
share
something:
I'm
really
concerned
about
housing,
so
I
take
a
lot
of
time
to
ask
some
of
the
folks
that
are
doing
a
lot
like
realtors.
What
they're
seeing-
and
I
had
some
interesting
conversations
recently
about-
and
you
may
have
heard
this
anecdotally
yourself
as
well-
about
folks
paying
cash
for
houses
and
how
the
houses
are
going
to
pass
and
even
in
the
pandemic,
and
people
are
relocating
here
and
it
sounds
like
even
higher
percentages
of
the
sales
are
going
to
folks
relocating.
I
just
wanted
to
share
that.
C
H
H
Is
noah
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing?
I
just
want
to
mention
that
and
then
paul,
I
think,
can
you
easily
jump
back
to
your
first
slide
of
this
particular
set,
because
I
think
it
was
where
you
were
kind
of
seeing
our
tool?
If
not
it's
okay,
I
just
wanted
to
point
out.
I
think
that
there's
one
we're
missing
in
general
that
is
on
us
is
on
the
city
and
it
keeps
coming
up-
and
I
think
maybe
this
group
is
concerned
about
it,
and
that
is
our
own
udo
and
how
we
might
revise
it.
H
H
Love
updating
our
udo
and
the
impediments
and
the
timeliness
and
the
cost
associated
as
one
of
the
toolboxes.
We
could
tweak.
G
Absolutely
sage,
thank
you
for
that
and
just
quickly
regulatory
is
one
of
the
possible
tools.
But
if
I
made
just
an
interest
of
time,
I
would
like
nikki
if
it's
possible
to
go
back
to
those
last
few
slides.
I
had
on
what
we've
accomplished
and
then
I
want
to
transfer
over
to
you
as
soon
as
possible
to
make
sure
that
we
talk
about
the
very
important
pipeline
for
2021,
but
appreciate
that
sage.
So.
H
C
G
All
familiar
with
a
partnership
with
housing
authority,
mountain
housing
opportunities,
many
other
folks,
a
4.2
million
dollar
investment
and
a
result
of
212
affordable
units,
as
you
can
see,
there's
a
mix
between
60
50
and
30
percent
ami
units
at
lee
walker
heights
next
slide
and
I'm
sure
anyone
tried
at
moore
avenue
has
seen
they've
just
done
a
great
job.
We
appreciate
our
partners
very
much
they've
done
a
great
job
there
on
building
those
units.
G
Nikki
next
slide:
360
hillard
avenue
in
partnership
with
passenger
development
group,
a
for-profit
developer
there,
an
investment
of
approximately
2.5
million
dollars
between
a
few
of
our
tools,
housing,
trust
fund,
land
use,
incentive,
grant
city
owned
land
and
we're
getting
34,
affordable
units
out
there
broken
between
16
to
eighty
percent
ami
with
a
fifty
year
period
of
affordability.
Next
slide
nikki
shows
the
picture
of
that
development
at
the
intersection
of
hillyard
and
cleaning
next
slide
amaranth
apartments.
G
This
is
a
tax
credit
developer
with
a
workforce
homestead
about
a
1.5
million
dollar
investment
with
not
only
housing
trust
fund,
but
also
home
funds.
You
can
see
the
mix
of
60,
50
and
30
ami
units
for
70
units
in
partnership
in
the
city
of
asheville
next
slide,
nikki
a
picture
of
those
units
being
built
right
now,
hopefully
coming
online
sometime
in
spring
or
summer.
G
Next
slide
tribute
companies
a
for-profit
developer,
who
is
building
on
ashland
avenue
and
cox,
avenue
about
a
3.9
million
dollar
landing
center
brand
over
a
period
where
we'll
get
49
affordable
units
at
a
breakdown
between
80
and
60
percent.
Ami
a
build
in
the
urban
core
on
the
south
slope
next
slide,
surrendering
of
what
that
will
look
like
when
it
is
finished.
Nikki.
G
Thank
you
and
then
lastly,
habitat
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
home
ownership,
an
investment
of
860
000
in
housing,
trust
fund
six
pounds
complete
two
more
coming.
These
are
eight
homes
for
sale
at
or
below
80
ami.
They
are
going
to
end
up
paying
nearly
all
of
that
funding
back.
I
think
this
could
be
a
rinse
and
repeat
model
with
them.
Nikki
next
slide
some
great
pictures
from
andy
and
the
folks
at
habitat
there
with
the
homes
that
they
built
next
slide
and
so
quickly.
G
Just
over
again,
the
last
12
to
8
12
to
18
months
in
2020,
about
373
units
of
affordable
housing
covering
the
30
50,
60
and
80
emi,
including
some
for
home
ownership,
a
13
million
dollar
city
investment
about
35
000
per
unit
investment
for
that
outcome.
Next
slide
all
the
resources
there
that
you
can
learn
about
with
these
links,
whether
it's
the
tax
credits
or
have
been
built
in
pumpkin,
county
and
other
updates,
and
our
partnership
with
the
school
of
government
to
tell
our
investment
story
next
slide.
Nikki
and
any
questions
there.
G
G
Thanks
and
I
will
go
ahead
and
introduce
nikki
reed
with
our
community
and
economic
development
department,
nikki
I'll,
let
you
take
it
away.
Thank
you.
I
Great,
thank
you
so
much
happy
to
be
here
and
so
yes
now,
the
idea
is
to
really
shift
and
talk
about
our
work
plan
for
2021.
I
think
you've
just
seen
kind
of
the
results
of
of
these
policies
as
investments
and
what
we're
seeing
coming
out
of
the
ground
now,
but
now
we
want
to
reframe
and
really
look
to
the
future
of
2021
and
these
opportunities
that
are
going
to
be
coming
before
council
up
in
the
coming
calendar
year.
I
So
with
that,
we
do
a
quick
reminder
really
of
the
policy
framework
that
led
to
this
pipeline
that
we're
getting
ready
to
discuss
so
in
2019.
This
slide
really
talks
back
to
establishing
a
unit
goal
of
200
units
per
year.
Also
looking
at
those
needs
served
so
paul
touched
on
that
earlier
about
the
80
ami
below,
especially
on
city
land.
Our
targets
are
a
bit
deeper
because
we
have
a
little
more
element
of
control
there
with
city
land
and
we
really
want
to
go
for
that.
I
60
ami
and
here
is
absolutely
where
we
can
require
acceptance
of
housing,
choice
vouchers
through
the
nature
of
that
real
estate
transaction.
So
that
is
something
that
we're
looking
at
specifically
with
city
online
again
now
we're
also
going
to
see
how
we're
promoting
leveraged
investments
with
this
strategy
so
really
looking
at
bringing
in
the
city
dollars,
but
also
ensuring
that
it
matches
with
investments
from
other
sources
at
the
time
that
we
did
this
slide
in
2019,
we
talked
about
the
county,
we're
going
to
be
highlighting
some
partnerships
with
awkward
health
trust
coming
up.
I
The
other
thing
that
councilwoman
rooney
had
mentioned
is
this
idea
of
of
prioritizing
geographic
areas
that
access
to
jobs,
access
to
services
and
community
amenities
is
the
other
really
key
component
to
making
these
projects
successful.
I
So
with
that
oops
next
slide
is
here
there
we
go
so
we're
also
thinking
about
just
how
to
frame
this
conversation
as
we
walk
through
this.
We
want
to
look
at
a
really
kind
of
broad
overview
of
these,
of.
I
I
I
So
today
we're
going
to
cover
these
in
the
in
the
next
slides,
319,
biltmore,
beaver
view,
the
talbert
lot,
ashland
neighborhood
lots
for
affordable
housing
and
then
we'll
end
up
with
homeward
bound
and
again,
I'm
going
to
kind.
I
Through
this,
but
I
am
certainly
happy
to
take
questions
as
we
go
through.
So
just
just
give
me
a
a
note
when
you're,
when
you
have
any
questions
so.
I
The
319
biltmore
proposal
that's
come
forward
is
a
mixed
use:
mixed
income
development,
that's
250
units
of
studio,
one
in
two
bedroom
apartments,
along
with
19
000
square
feet
of
commercial
space.
This
is
a
proposal
from
homes,
urban
and
in
partnership
with
macmillan,
past
and
smith,
and
this
is
a
partnership
with
holmes
urban.
I
We
did
an
rfq
process
to
select
homes,
urban
as
a
top-ranked
developer,
and
we
really
had
nine
really
great
proposals
as
a
result
of
this
process
and
as
the
selection
committee
weighed
the
final
proposals,
we
looked
at
homes,
urban
and
their
ability
to
really
exceed
our
city
council
goals,
so
you're,
seeing
there
that
they
have
50
units
of
affordable
at
60
percent,
ami
25
and
80
ami
for
30
years.
They're
really
wanting
to.
A
A
I
And
directly
adjacent
to
lee
walker
heights,
so
you
saw
in
that
picture
earlier.
There
was
some
grading
along
the
frontage
there
at
biltmore,
and
that
is
the
319
site.
So
yes,
so
looking
at
a
partnership
with
homes,
urban,
they
really
also
wanted
to
bring
a
community
that
brought
lee
walker
together
with.
I
Through
a
a
proposal
that
addressed
the
social
determinants
of
health
and
really
talk
about
wellness,
that
was
really
key
in
their
partnership
with
mayhack.
As
you
see
that
listed
there
and
truly,
I
think
another
point
of
this
proposal
is
the
idea
of
city
resources,
so
they're
asking
for
a
city
land
contribution,
but
otherwise
they
are
going
to
be
able
to
put
this
together
through
a
financial
pro
forma.
That
only
requires
the
city
land
as
a
subsidy.
I
Really
strong
proposal
and
we'll
be
bringing
it
forward
for
council's
consideration
sometime
in
the
spring
of
this
year,.
D
B
I
Let's
talk
about
diva
view,
so
the
review
purpose
book
community
and
I'll
just
orient
us
here
as
we
look
at
the
map.
So
what
you're
seeing
here
is:
we've
highlighted
the
20
acres
that
really
makes
up
the
deeper
view:
apartments
which
is
owned
by
the
housing
authority.
You
travel
a
little
bit
further
down
on
beaver
view,
road
and
the
city
has
put
21
acres
of
property
under
contract.
I
This
was
a
decision
made
by
a
council
this
past
summer
to
go
under
contract
to
purchase
21
acres
there
and
then
you'll
see
moving
further
west
there's
existing
city-owned
property.
We
call
it
cedar.
Hill
we've
been
looking
at
it
for
a
while
in
terms
of
seeing
affordable
housing
on
that
15-acre
site.
So
with
this,
we're
looking
to
partner
with
the
housing
authority
on
creating
a
master
plan
for
this
entire
60
acres,
based
on
the
purpose-built
communities
principle
and.
I
I
I
The
other
key
component
of
of
the
purpose-built
model
is
the
idea
of
really
supporting
kids
and
really
really
supporting
teens
and
that
growth
potential
of
the
people
in
in
that
community
and
so
looking
at
affordable
child
care
and
or
a
new
high-performing
school.
So
these
are
some
of
the
other
things
that
we'll
be
looking
into
seeking
partnerships
on
is
really
to.
How
do
we
create
this
career
to
college
and
career
pipeline?
I
Another
key
element
of
purpose
built
is
community
wellness,
and
so
our
parks
and
recreation
department
is
a
strong
partner
here
and
they
are
are
with
us
in
this
planning
process,
to
locate
a
new
community
center
within
that
60-acre
footprint,
to
provide
the
element
of
wellness
and
also
again
looking
to
see,
are
there
any
opportunities
for
other
kind
of
health
services
etc?
So
you'll
see
this
is
really
more
of
a
partnership
model
where
we're
working
with
the
housing
authority
in
partnership
because
they
are
the
adjacent
owner
of
the
property.
I
They
have
selected
mountain
housing
opportunities
as
the
developer
for
the
housing
for
the
beaver
view
residents.
We
also
have
a
lot
of
city
internal
departments
that
are
partnering,
so
the
planning
staff,
as
well
as
the
park
staff,
will
be
heavily
involved.
We're
wanting
to
speak
with
buncombe
county,
the
dog,
with
health
trust,
so
really
creating
a
partnership
around
the
purpose-built.
I
Planning
process
will
be
ongoing
this
year
and
what
council
will
see
come
before
them
is
likely
an
mou
or
a
partnership
agreement
with
the
housing
authority
that
outlines
the
nature
of
that
partnership.
I
Because
we're
definitely
talking
about
city
land
here,
the
other
key
thing
is
because
of
the
potential
impact
of
this
this
area.
We
really
want
to
direct
our
affordable
housing
bond
dollars
into.
I
I
F
I
So
we
will
continue
here
so
the
talbert
lot.
So
this
one
is
a
land
banking
strategy
and
so
we're
excited
that
we're
under
contract
to
purchase
the
talbot
lot.
The
the
proposition
here
is
to
acquire
property
to
expand
our
downtown
transit
center,
but
also
do
affordable
mixed
income
housing
alongside
it.
So
you'll
see
again
the
map.
Here
you
see
our
city.
I
There
highlighted
to
the
north
and
then
the
talbert
lot
is
a
.89,
acre,
property,
directly
adjacent
and
so
we're
under
contract
to
purchase
that
now
and
again,
the
results
here
is
is
landmaking
of
a
key
site
and
I
will
say
one
of
the
most
exciting
things
about.
This
is
the
potential
partnership
with.
C
I
Stress
coming
in
as
a
50
50
partner,
it's
a
it's
a
great
opportunity
to
really
just
really
to
work
with
them
on
this
on
this
property-
and
I
think
you
know
in
in
reflecting
on
their
partnership-
they
really
want
to
see
you
know
equitable
results,
since
it
comes
to
improved
transit
services,
equitable
outcomes
in
terms
of
housing
provision.
I
But
then
also,
this
property
is
in
an
area
that
was
known
for
the
former
red
line
area
of
asheville,
and
so
the
other
component
here
is
really
to
be
intentional
about
the
repurposing,
a
property
that
was
in
an
area
formerly
redlined,
and
so
to
be
intentional
about
that,
as
well.
So
you're
hoping
to
bring
forward
the
council
that
policy
decision
to
accept
the
grant
from
dogwood
health
trust,
as
well
as
to
allocate
the
dollars
to
purchase
the
property
that
will
come
from
the
sale
of
property
to
white
labs.
I
B
You
can't
have
a
quick
question
about
this.
One
just
wanted
to
confirm
that
there
is
potential
for
this
not
to
only
be
a
transit
center,
but
hopefully
potentially
a
transportation
hub.
Can
we
confirm
that
that's.
I
Benefits-
and
it
should
be-
I
think,
that's
a
key
component
and
so
jessica
morris
has
been
heavily
involved
with
this
and
we're
very
much
at
the
initial
stages,
of
course,
identifying
it
as
a
key.
I
We're
getting
we're,
you
know,
gearing
up
for
what
it's
going
to
look
like
on
a
a
community
design
process
for
what
could
be
on
this
site.
So.
B
A
I
So
the
ashland
proposal,
so
the
haywood
street
congregation
haywood
street
community
development
have
proposed
to
build
42
units
of
permanently
affordable
housing
on
an
acre
of
city
land
located
on
ashland
avenue.
I
F
I
Affordable
apartments
on
a
city
acre
site
within
that
42
permanently
affordable
apartments.
They
are
also
wanting
to
reserve
20
units
for
people
making
extremely
low
incomes.
So
I
think.
H
F
I
That's
part
of
the
the
major
components
here
of
this
proposal.
We
will
be
seeing
this
go
before
council
on
february
23rd,
so
this
one
will
be
coming
up
very
soon
where
council
will
be
asked
to
vote
on
whether
or
not
the
city
would
enter
into
a
contract,
sell
the
land
for
a
dollar
to
haywood
street.
So.
I
Are
on
the
table
here
is
really
that
city
land
contribution,
as
well
as
the
housing
trust
fund
of
one
million
dollars.
So
those
two
elements
are
really
what
is
being
proposed
for
this
and
again,
that's
that's
a
lot
having
to
do
with
the
amount
of
funds
that
it
really
takes
to
see
permanent
affordability
as
well
as
100
affordable.
I
So
all
units
will
be
affordable
and
then
reaching
that
really
lower
income
bracket,
and
so
that's
you're,
starting
to
see,
I
think,
with
with
this
portfolio
this
pipeline,
this
continuum
of
housing
that
we
talked
about
earlier,
that
deborah
mentioned
earlier,
how
we're
seeing
different
different
income
served
different
types
of
housing
and
different
types
of
proposals
coming
coming
forward
to
council,
and
did
I
see
sage,
did
you
want
to
have
a
question?
Yes
go
for
it.
H
I'll
thank
vicki
great
job
by
the
way
so
far
have
we
ever
seen
your
knowledge.
A
project
come
to
us
with
a
permanently
affordable
structure
that
didn't
have
like
tax
credits
or
some
other
entity
beyond
ourselves,
and
our
little
subsidies
happen.
I
can't
recall
one.
G
Just
quickly
at
the
homeward
bound
short
michigan
is
going
to
be
13
units
of
permanent
support
of
house
and,
I
believe,
they're
offering
permanent
affordability.
I
can't
think
of
their
financial
structure,
but
we
had
about
526
000
in
a
housing
trust
fund
loan.
There,
I
believe,
are
home
funds,
but
yes,
but
a
smaller
scale
to
a
certain
extent.
H
C
A
To
support
permanent
affordability,
I
mean
well
I'll
just
be
interested
to
learn
how
that
will
work.
I've
had
several
conversations
with
dogwood
health
trust
about
how
they
envision
their
participation
in
the
community,
around
affordable
housing
and
one
of
the
models
that
they
talked
about
was
you
know,
instead
of
what
most
private
developers
deal
with,
which
is
you.
A
A
product
that
they're
going
to
sell
on
the
market,
eventually
and
they're
having
to
think
about
that
rate
of
return
and
building
in
affordability
that
will
still
provide
for
a
rate
of
return
on
the
market
rate
units,
dogwood
health
trust,
as
as
a
financial
pro
you
know,
providing
financing
for
a
development
like
this
might
take
the
equity
interest
that
you
would
otherwise
be
be
looking
at
being
privately
owned,
so
they
they.
A
I
think
they
open
the
door
for
a
possibility
of
creating
more
non-public
housing
that
is
permanently
affordable
or
at
least
affordable
for
much
longer
periods
of
time.
I
don't
folks
staff
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
in
my
conversations
with
them
that's
what
struck
me
about
this
opportunity.
H
You
know
what
our
goal
this
year
really
needs
to
be
able
to
work
with
the
county
on
housing.
You
know
what
this
next
year
we're
going
to
work
with
that
and
now
we're
doing
it.
I
wanted
to
point
that
out,
because
that
is
not
something
that's
been
happening
very
long,
and
this
is
again
in
the
city,
the
county.
H
I
So
we
will
move
on
so
so
now
we're
going
to
shift
gears
and
talk
about
opportunities
for
homeownership,
and
so
this
is
with
what
we
call
our
neighborhood
lots
for,
affordable
housing
program
and
so
you're,
seeing
here
a
duplex
that
asheville
area,
habitat
for
humanity
is
built
on
curry
court,
and
so
we
took
this
as
as
habitat
is
going
to
be
one
of
our
partners
on
the
city-owned
lot.
I
Three
smaller
city-owned
vacant
sites
within
you
know
residential
neighborhoods,
two
in
west
asheville
kentucky
and
lofty,
and
one
in
the
montford
area,
that's
in
west
chester,
street,
and
so
our
partners
here
is
that
we're
going
to
be
partnering
with
asheville
area
habitat
for
humanity,
on
the
kentucky
ave
property,
as
well
as
the
asheville
buncombe
community,
land
trust
with
the
juna
group
for
the
parcels
at
lufty,
avenue
and
west
chestnut,
and
so
that
is
still
in
in
process.
Those
two
partners
were
our
top
candidates
after
the
rfp
process
concluded
you'll
see
here.
I
Some
of
the
price
points
that
they're
seeking
to
meet,
I
think,
which
is
great.
I
think
paul
was
really
appointing
to
that
earlier
in
in
where
the
need
is
and
and
what
price
points
would
be
affordable
to
people
in
our
community.
So
we're
really
excited
about
this
home
ownership
opportunity
and
feel
that
with
the
resources
of
city,
land
contribution
and
funding
which
we
did
see
with
the
community
land
trust.
This
is
how
this
is
coming
together
and
using
those
tools.
I
Okay,
so
last
we'll
round
out-
and
actually
I
was
going
to
ask
paul
to
talk
about
this
one-
I
think
he's
really
our
project
manager
for
this.
So
so
paul.
Do
you
want
to
share
some
on
the
homeward
bound?
Absolutely.
G
G
They
have
the
property
under
contract
and
they
are
looking
to
put
those
85
units
sometime,
possibly
at
the
beginning
of
2022
online,
where
they're
not
only
going
to
offer
those
units
for
permanent
supportive
housing,
but
24
hours
of
support
on
site
I'll,
build
in
resources
as
they're
going
to
save
some
of
the
open
space,
the
units
there
for
meeting
space
therapy,
counseling,
etc,
etc,
and
also
the
community
and
growth
that
they
could
see
working
with
the
community
in
a
successful
transition
from
homelessness
to
housing.
G
So
again,
85
units
of
permanent
support
of
housing
serving
individuals
at
or
below
30
ami
are
chronically
homeless.
Folks
in
asheville
partners,
they're
putting
together
homeward
bound
they're
having
talks,
obviously
with
many
other
entities.
We
look
at
this
as
a
potential
partnership,
their
resources
there,
with
with
what
they're
looking
for
at
two
million
dollars
in
funding
to
be
able
to
move
this
forward.
G
I
think
it's
interesting
to
note
that
in
the
numbers,
when
it
comes
to
housing,
somebody
who
is
homeless
it
costs
about
13
13
000
is
the
average
annual
cost
per
person
for
a
permanent
supportive
housing.
The
annual
cost
for
someone
being
homeless,
including
medical
treatments,
behavioral
interventions,
engagement
with
public
services,
is
anywhere
from
30
to
50
000.
So
there
could
be
a
projected
savings
to
the
community
of
about
1.5
to
3.2
million
dollars
in
annual
savings.
So
this
is
seen
somewhat.
C
I
And
so
I
also
wanted
to
speak
too
on
just
our
ongoing
evaluations,
so
we
are
looking
to
map
the
properties
that
came
to
the
city's
ownership
through
urban
renewal,
and
so
that
map
is
underway.
Now
I've
seen
the
first
draft
of
it
and
we're
getting
ready
to
present
that
internally
and
then
share
it
to
community.
I
We
do
have
property
in
the
river
district,
so
we
continue
to
evaluate
that
on
on
the
opportunities
for
affordable
housing
and
then
south
charlotte
street
in
the
future
as
well,
and
so
I
wanted
to
just
talk
about
the
bond
quickly
and
then
I
think
we'll
we'll
wrap
it
up
and
turn
it
back
over
to
deborah.
So
what
we're?
Seeing
with
the
bond
we
see,
you
know
high
impact
investments
where
we're
seeing
319
lee
walker
heights.
The
dvr
view
purpose
built
here
paul,
has
managed
housing,
trust
funds.
I
So
we've
seen
a
lot
of
that
housing
trust
fund
dollars
go
out
with
a
with
a
balance
of
about
half
a
million
dollars
remaining
with
our
land
banking
funds,
we're
seeing
again
investments
in
the
beaverview
purpose
bill
with
the
purchase
of
that
property.
We
still
have
available
funding
there,
so
we're
looking
for
opportunities
actively.
We
also
have
again
the
community
land
trust.
We
spoke
about
that
a
little
bit
earlier,
as
it
relates
to
the
neighborhood
lots
program
and
then
the
1
million
in
down
payment
assistance,
which
I
know
is
coming
before
council
soon.
I
So
I
really
feel
like
the
deliverables
on
the
bond
have
have
contributed
to
this
overall
story
of
where
we've
seen
success
and
where
we
want
to
go
so
again
with
this
recap,
we'll
say:
here's
projects,
here's
what
we're
hoping
to
achieve
as
our
goal.
You
know
500
units
of
housing
potentially
through
through
these
the
slate
of
projects,
and
that
is,
is
a
23
million
dollar
city
investment,
so
really
in
in
land
and
in
financial
resources.
That
represents
a
23
million
investment
there
and
so
wrapping
up.
I
We
talk
about
policy,
we
talk
about
community,
we
talk
about
capacity
partners,
you
know
how
we
get
there
and
so
with
council's
vision,
with
the
vision
that
was
set
forth
in
the
2019
work
session,
with
the
policies
that
have
been
created
and
and
the
support
financially
through
the
bond
with
our
community.
I
This
is
this
is
what
we're
seeing
we're,
seeing
the
success
story
of
about
373
units
actively
being
built
now,
that's
a
three
13
million
city
investment
there
leveraged
alongside
nonprofit
and
private
investment,
and
then
our
work
plan
for
2021
with
a
potential
500
units
and
that
investment
there.
I
So
I
think
with
that,
we're
wanting
to
then
kind
of
open
up
housing
and
looking
for
so
paul
did
you
want
to
wrap
this
up
and
then
we'll.
G
Absolutely
so,
after
the
september
2019
work
session,
deborah
city
manager
and
city
management
challenged
us
to
put
together
some
kind
of
overreaching
policy
about
affordable
housing.
I
think
everyone's
seen
how
we've
tried
to
put
these
tools
together
and
really
in
in
enhance
these
tools
to
make
them
usable,
hopefully
we're
able
to
demonstrate
that
that
they
have
worked,
and
we
have
hopefully
they'll
continue
to
work
this
year,
but
we're
wanting
to
take
our
affordable
housing
policy.
G
G
But
can
we
take
it
a
step
further
about
what
the
community's
needs
are
and
where
these
developments
are
built
and
talk
about
the
energy
efficiency,
the
anti-displacement
gentrification
design
standards,
so
that
these
units
do
look
just
like
any
other
house
has
built
strong,
compassionate
community
property
management,
equity
and
inclusion,
inclusion,
community
outreach
and
and
being
careful
not
to
concentrate
on
moderate
or
low
incomes
in
our
community,
and
perhaps
we
were
challenged
before
with
200
units.
G
I
could
be
on
a
slight
vacation
high
here,
but
I
maybe
we
go
to
250
units
because
I
think,
as
as
the
kids
would
say,
we've
got
some
receipts
to
show
here
that
these
policies
collectively
are
working
together.
The
partners
we
definitely
always
are
looking
for
more
but
out
of
community
economic
development.
We
feel
we're
on
a
pathway
and
looking
for
some
direction
to
someone
codified
with
that
with
you
all
and
with
that
we're
happy
to
take
any
questions.
Thank
you,
deborah
and
city
council.
B
Can
we
go
back
one
slide?
This
is
kim
asking
that
so
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
not
seeing
here-
and
I
guess
I'm
just
looking
for
it
explicitly-
is
accessibility
because
it
makes
housing
less
affordable
when
you
have
to
rely
on
a
vehicle.
B
Parking
and
gas
and
upkeep
of
that
vehicle.
So
I
remember
looking
this
up
when
the
amaranth
apartments
first
came
up
and
the
availability
to
get
from
downtown
at
the
transit
center
to
that
location.
The
last
time
that
you
can
use
the
bus
to
connect
is
4
30.
B
Make
it
so
that
folks
have
to
especially
someone's
working
in
the
evening
shift
have
to
rely
on
a
car,
so
it
might
make
the
housing
less
affordable.
So
is
there
a
way
that
you're
seeing
accessibility.
G
So
possibly
it
is
in
our
land
use
incentive
grant
it's
one
of
the
point
systems
in
the
scoring
sheet
on
page
two
of
that
policy
that
talks
about
how
close
it
is
to
transportation,
bus
lines,
etc.
I
think
the
problem
has
to
do
with
something
mentioned
earlier,
with
the
supply
of
available
land
and
where
developers
can
actually
find
land
that's
reasonable
to
purchase,
and
then
you
know
crossing
your
fingers
are
hoping
that
there's
a
bus
station
or
some
better
transportation
in
the
area.
G
That
is
a
challenge
it's
listed
in
policies,
but
hasn't
necessarily
threshed
out
in
this
overall
holistic,
affordable
housing
policy.
As
of
yet.
B
And
I
remember
this
conversation
coming
up
over
the
years
at
the
regional
housing
consortium
level
is
affordable,
housing
being
built
as
close
to
buncombe
county
as
possible,
not
necessarily
close
to
the
things
that
make
daily
life
possible
in
our
neighboring
counties.
So
I
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
look
at
collaborating
with
the
county.
I
know
sages
mentioned
that
earlier
on
what
it
looks
like
to
build
strong
and
accessible
communities
for
long-term.
H
H
H
Going
to
get
it
one
day
and
oh,
I
was
going
to
say
something
else,
but
I
think
I've
lost
it
great.
H
For
the
three
of
you,
women
who
were
on
council
these
last
this
last
term
too,
I
mean
you
really
got
a
heavy
load,
and
this
is
a
great
response.
There's
a
lot
of
time,
a
lot
of
work
and.
G
C
F
Oh,
a
quick
question.
Sorry,
you
know
you
mentioned
the
numbers
about
how
how
much
it
costs
to
how
someone
who's
who's
been
houseless
versus
what
the
community
pays
in
the
event
that
someone
is
houseless
annually.
F
You
know,
I
know
some
of
those
costs
are
born
by
the
city,
but
some
of
those
costs
are
not
borne
by
the
city
they're,
born
by
our
health
system,
etc,
etc.
Is
there
some
sort
of
model
that
gets
the
other
organizations
that
benefit
from
these
houseless
people
becoming
becoming
housed
and
supported
that
you
know
where
they
share
in
the
costs
of
doing
this
work?
C
F
Need
their
services
for
free,
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
a
way
that
that
we
can
encourage
them
based
on
this
savings
to
get
involved
up
front
in
these
kind
of
efforts.
G
Sure-
and
I
think
councilwoman
whistler-
that's
a
great
question
and
creative
thinking.
There
too,
I
will
certainly
reach
out
to
homer
bound
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that,
but
you
are
correct.
Some
of
that
savings
comes
from
other
areas
of
the
community,
so
I
don't
know
of
any
example
of
hand.
I
know,
of
course,
there's
you
know
some
other
agencies
that
are
interested
in
supporting
this
and
they're
talking
to
lots
of
potential
investors
and
partners
so
I'll
follow
up
on.
H
H
The
cost
of
transportation-
and
this
is
a
mapping
tool
you
can
go
through
and
type
in
your
areas,
move
in
and
see
what
the
transportation
cost
is
for
that
area.
So.
H
B
H
B
Might
make
our
neighbors
in
south
asheville's
housing
more
affordable
for
them
to
stay
in
if
they
had
more
access
to
transit
by
us
implementing
the
first
fiscal
year
to
the
transit
master
plan.
A
A
We
have
some
really
talented
staff
that
know
a
lot
about
this
topic,
obviously,
and
are
able
to
think
about
all
the
potential
tools
in
the
toolbox
and
how
we
might
use
them
here
in
asheville
and
it
you
know
the
way
you
present
it
makes
it
look
like
it's
kind
of
not
that
complicated,
but
I
know
that
it
really
is
extremely
complicated.
So,
and
this
has
been
such
an
evolution
to
watch
happen.
A
H
A
A
As
I
have
said
for
many
many
years,
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
spend
ourselves
out
of
an
affordable
housing
crisis,
just
us
the
city.
So
so.
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
doing
that.
I
am
one
of
the
things
that
kovid
did
to
us
of
the
bazillion.
Long
list
of
things
was
took
away
our
opportunity
to
go
visit,
a
purpose-built
community
outside
of
charlotte,
along
with
folks
from
dogwood.
A
We
were
going
to
go,
do
that,
but
I'm
very
interested
in
continuing
to
explore
that
model
and
I'm
interested
in
deeper
review
being
redeveloped
with
that
idea
in
mind,
and-
and
you
know
it's
a
science-based
approach,
but
it
really
is
more
about
the
human
and
what
do
humans
need
to
be
successful
in
their
lives
and
providing
things
like
child
care
on
site
schools
on
site
services
like
that
that
help
people
be
successful
and
happy
are
going
to
be
so
vitally
important,
and
that
really
is
going
to
require
us
to
continue
again
to
work
with
partners
who
are
going
to
be
able
to
provide
those
other
anchor.
A
Provisions
in
those
communities
for
us
so
anyway,
I
just
I
just
highlight
that
you
guys
are
you
guys,
are
awesome
and
I
look
forward
to
doing
more
of
this.
So
I
on
the
list.
You
know
you
asked
about
the
list
of
the
things
I
you
know.
The
thing
I
would
pull
out
is
that
purposeful
community
concept
and
emphasizing
that.
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C
A
couple
of
closing
remarks
as
well.
Thank
you
all
for
your
attention.
Your
passion,
especially
today
in
receiving
a
whole
lot
of
information,
but
we
thought
it
was
vitally
important
that
not
only
we
present
this
to
you
as
elected
officials,
but
also
to
the
community.
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
need,
and
sometimes
even
some
frustration
that.
H
C
C
That
for.
C
C
To
address
this
issue,
it
is
complicated,
it
is
hard,
but
I
cannot
tell
you
if
we
did
not
have
the
staff
that
we
have
and
we
don't
have
a
lot
paying
attention
to
this
issue.
It
would.
C
It
would
quickly
get
away
from
us,
but
I
cannot
say
enough
for
the
community
and
economic
development
staff,
obviously
nikki
and
paul,
but
all
the
other
folks
that
you
don't
see
making
presentations,
including
the
director
sam
powers,
who
usually
isn't
isn't
again
making
a
formal
presentation,
but
but
the
the
talent
is
deep.
The
bench
is
deep
and
I
just
wanted
to
again
say
thank
you
to
the
staff.
C
Thank
you
elected
officials
for
allowing
us
to
do
the
things
that
we
are
doing
to
what
we
hope
will
address
or
help
address
this
issue
so
going
forward.
You
saw
a
number
of
things
for
our
2021
work
plan.
C
That's
what
we're
going
to
focus
on
and
we
will
be
back
in
less
than
a
month
with
some
proposals,
potentially
talbot
for
ashland.
There's,
there's
a
lot
going
on
so
stay
tuned
and
again.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time.
A
Okay
with
that,
we're
we're
gonna
sign
off
and
we'll
be
right
back
here
on
this
virtual
screen
at
five
o'clock
for
tonight's
city
council
meeting.