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From YouTube: 319 Biltmore Webinar
Description
February 19, 2020
Facilitators:
Nikki Reid
Economic Development Program Director
Economic and Community Development Department
City of Asheville
Sasha Vrtunski
Urban Planner II
Planning and Urban Design Department
City of Asheville
Paul D’Angelo
Community Development Program Director
Economic and Community Development Department
City of Asheville
Bob Begle
Architecture & Design Consultant
Lord Aeck Sargent
Atlanta, GA
A
I
think
go
ahead
and
get
started.
We
have
some
people
joining
go
ahead
and
go
through
the
webinar.
If
you
see
with
some
of
the
notice
of
the
site
or
we've
driven
by
the
site,
you'll
see
that
it
is
actively
a
construction
zone,
and
so
we
wanted
to
provide
a
safe
way
for
us
to
have
this
conversation,
and
also
you
get
to
know
some
of
the
people
here
in
the
city
staff
that
that
you'll
be
working
with
on
this,
the
middle.
So
without
further
ado,
we'll
get
started
quick
agenda.
A
A
15
million
was
dedicated
to
the
development
of
city
on
land.
In
2017
we
identified
three
sites
that
we
really
wanted
to
focus
on
these
sites.
We
felt
had
the
potential
for
what
we
call
high
impact
and
what
we
meant
by
that
was
high
impact
to
achieve
affordable
outcomes
that
were
in
locations
that
provided
the
type
of
efficiency,
whether
it's
to
build
a
community,
whether
it's
to
have
access
to
job
centers
proximity
to
downtown
core.
So
there's
three
sites
that
we
selected
as
the
initial
part
of
the
spawn
initiative,
319
built
farm.
A
At
the
time
we
had
under
option
with
Duke
Energy
Duke
Energy
was
the
owner,
but
the
city
had
vendor
option.
So
we
chose
that
site.
91
Riverside
Drive
is
another
site
that
we
chose
and
our
River
it's
district,
as
well
as
the
city-owned
properties
on
the
South
Charlotte
Street
in
2018.
We
partnered
with
consultants
or
tech
sergeant
and
also
likely
advisory
group
and
we
winter
process
to
develop
conceptual
visions
for
each
science.
We've
probably
seen
some
of
those
as
you've
gone
through.
A
The
are
key
I'll
talk
about
those
in
some
detail
later
and
also
we
perform
some
performant
analysis,
so
here
the
city,
we
really
wanted
to
understand
what
what
kind
of
massing,
scale
and
density
that
we
could
achieve
on
the
sites
as
well
as
understand
the
perform
analysis.
So
really
understand.
You
know
if
we
were
going
to
encourage
the
affordability
on
the
side,
what
was
the
affordability
gap
that
would
need
to
be
covered
through
City,
subsidy
or
through
other
types
of
financing
and
funding
partners
as
available?
A
So
we
really
wanted
to
route
our
arms
around
this,
so
we
were
going
through
the
process
with
our
eyes
wide
open.
So
we
knew
how
the
city
could
play
a
role
as
a
partner
in
this
project
and
how
we
could
really
be
successful.
So
that
was
really
why
we
took
some
time
to
really
engage
in
that
process
as
well
as
engaged
the
community.
A
So
the
baseline
that
we
were
trying
to
create
with
our
portability
goals
is
now
set
in
to
that
policy,
and
it
was
also
a
way
in
which
we
could
really
communicate
with
our
council
members
so
that
they
perhaps
the
full
understanding
of
what
it
takes
to
build,
affordable
housing
which
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
you
know
and
are
very
familiar
with.
But
we
really
wanted
to
ensure
that
we
had
a
proper
foundation
to
be
good
partners
in
this
process.
A
So
here
that
brings
us
to
today
we
published
the
request
for
proposals
and
we're
excited
now
that
we
can
kind
of
walk
you
through
it.
So
this
is
our
request
for
developer
proposals,
and
what
we
wanted
to
do
is
really
discuss
the
opportunity
and
discuss
the
process
that
we
hope
to
use
to
select
a
developer
partner
development
partner
for
this
site.
A
A
The
primary
intent
with
this
redevelopment
effort
is
to
further
the
City
Council
goals
for
affordable
housing.
We
also
hope
to
utilize
the
built
environment
to
strengthen
community
through
your
partnership
with
the
new
water
Heights,
to
ensure
that
the
community
built
at
3:19
Biltmore
speaks
and
resonates
with
the
ongoing
development
of
the
three
Walker
Heights
property,
and
we
also
hope
that
it's
an
innovative
development,
but
that
the
financial
returns
are
something
that
we
can
all
get
to,
that
we
can
achieve
that.
A
We
feel
confident
in
the
city's
investment
and
to
be
affordability
and
the
development
feels
confident
in
their
investments
in
the
property
as
well.
They
can
have
a
solid
financial
return
and
that
everyone
can
have
a
positive
experience
through
this
development
and
ultimately,
this
is
to
deliver
on
the
promise
that
was
made
through
the
bond
initiative.
A
So
when
the
bond
was
passed
in
2016
city
declare
that
it
would
utilize
those
funds
to
secure
and
provide
more
affordable
housing
to
our
community
and
is
the
ultimate
in
that
this
property
is
to
deliver
on
that
promise
to
our
constituents
so
now
you'll
see
also
in
the
RFP
and
now
I'm
kind
of
giving
another
picture
here.
You
know.
One
thing
we
recognize
this
is
also
written
within.
A
Our
policy
is
that
we
want
to
be
cognizant
of
what
it
takes
to
develop,
affordable
housing,
and
so
with
that
and
I
want
to
have
the
understanding
that
we
do.
We
do
understand
that
this
land
and
other
potential
subsidies
may
be
necessary
to
develop
the
kind
of
density
and
vision
for
this
site
that'll
take,
and
so
that
is
written
into
our
policy
that
the
land
may
can
be
conveyed
at
less
than
market
value.
In
order
to
achieve
the
affordability
on
this
site,
all
right
so.
A
A
Baseline,
so
here
here's
the
baseline-
and
this
is
one
of
the
you
know-
requirements
for
for
us
as
the
development
team
to
submit
honest
properties
that
we
are
looking
for,
a
minimum
of
20%
of
all
developed
units
to
be
affordable
to
individuals
and
families
at
60%
area
median
income
and
to
accept
Housing
Choice
vouchers.
We
really
felt
in
the
creation
of
this
baseline
with
councils
direction
that
this
was
where
we
wanted
to
have,
and
this
is
an
anon.
A
The
static
part
of
that
is
an
affordability
period
of
no
less
than
20
years,
with
the
strong
preference
of
30
years
or
longer,
and
what
that
means
and
how
that
typically
translates
that
we've
seen
in
development
deals
is
with
deed
restrictions
or
something
you're
doing
that
sort
where
we
have
an
affordability
period
that
is
guaranteed
through
the
use
of
deed
restrictions.
So
those
two
pieces
are
musts
and
that
is
unit
to
basically
get
in
the
door
to
be
responsive
to
this
request
for
proposals.
A
Your
proposal
must
demonstrate
that
you
meet
these
two
baselines
and
then,
of
course,
we
encourage
you
to
exceed
the
baseline.
Where
early,
you
know,
I
think
what
we're
going
to
do
would
decide
again
is
to
create
the
affordable
affordability,
but
also
how
do
we
knit
together
Lily
Walker
community,
and
so
we
want
to
achieve
these
baselines,
but
also
have
a
strong
nod
there.
Leslie
Walker.
A
The
best
place
to
keep
updated
about
this
process
and
defined
documents
is
your
website,
so
it's
Asheville,
NC,
gov,
slash
319,
but
more
I
also
just
want
to
underscore
our
time
right
and
you
have
not
made
any
changes
to
the
timeline
and
we
hope
to
receive
your
submissions
by
March
25th
I
mentioned
earlier
about
questions.
We're
still
taking
questions
through
writing
and
we
can
also
answer
this
today.
With
that
deadline
is
the
previous
February,
then
we
will
post
answers
in
a
written
format
so
that
everyone
can
see
in
through
transparent.
A
A
We
were
nice,
decent
feedback
that
the
limitation
between
pages
was
pretty
steep,
and
so
we
provided
some
clarification
on
that
point
and
so
you'll
see
there
we've
included
now
when
you
go
to
the
website,
you'll
see
the
updated
RFP.
Has
this
information
in
the
RFP,
so
I
just
want
to
underscore
that
that
our
tweet
page
limit
we've
characterized
as
having
a
cover
letter
statement
of
interest
qualifications,
narrative
of
a
developer
partner
description
in
the
appendices
are
listed
there
as
well
see
description
like
charts,
see
these
letters
of
reference.
A
C
Thanks
Nikki
I'm,
just
gonna
go
over
this
briefly
and
there's
Nikki
already
stated:
city
staff
north
of
Laura,
deck
Sargent
and
bleakly
associates
on
this
vision,
and
really
they
were
helping
us
figure
out.
What
could
we
recently
expect
on
this
site?
So
the
vision
that
you
see
in
front
in
front
of
you
on
this
webinar
in
the
RFP
is
really
just
a
conceptual
development
in
a
vision.
C
Just
one
thing
to
know
is
that
we
are
very
limited
in
our
lives.
So
density
is
an
important
thing.
You
continue
to
grow.
People
are
moving
here
all
the
time,
and
so
by
law
we
can't
in
X
land,
and
we
really
are
hemmed
in.
So
we
have
to
make
them
absolutely
most
of
everything
we
can
within
reason,
obviously
cost
considerations
and
views,
and
things
like
that
coming
to
effect.
C
C
We
will
be
looking
for
some.
You
know
green
spaces
and
open
spaces
community
gathering
spaces,
even
if
they're
on
a
small
scale
or
important,
then
again
that
concept
that
Nikki
talked
about
with
with
Lee
Walker
Heights
is
really
important.
We
don't
necessarily
see
this
as
a
completely
separate
community.
C
Also
we
you
know
in
that
commercial
space.
That's
obviously
a
flexible
thing,
so
one
thing
we
have
thought
about
on
staff
is:
are
there
ways
to
bring
small
businesses
or
partnerships
with
nonprofits
things
that
really
conserve?
You
know
500
new
households,
you
know
kinda
Lee
Walker
Heights
redevelopment.
How
could
this
help
and
we're
not?
You
know
nothing
has
been
predetermined
and
we
know
there's
economical
limits
on
that,
but
we
are
hoping
that
folks
can
be
creative
in
thinking
about
that
space.
C
Moving
on
to
the
site
context,
just
pulling
back
a
bit
you
can
see
to
the
north
of
this
site
is
our
downtown,
an
area
that
some
people
call
south
slope
to
the
south
is
our
hospital
district,
and
just
south
of
that
is
Biltmore
village
to
the
east?
Is
the
Oakhurst
community
just
south
of
a
cornfield?
Both
cats
are
Park
and
then
to
the
west?
Is
the
South
Side
neighborhood
in
the
Selfridge.
C
Then
slowly
over
time,
this
area
is
becoming
an
extension
of
downtown
downtown,
is
slowly
crying
toward
the
hospital
district
and
then
moving
in
slightly
more
this,
you
know
see
you've
seen
the
other
construction
photos,
probably,
but
u.s.
25
is
on
Southside
Avenue
in
McDowell
Fillmore,
so
they
site
is
right
between
two
major
arteries.
Your
salaries
for
Ashley.
C
Also,
you
can
see
in
the
development
visionary
men
with
those
concept-
dogs
that
there's
a
new
road
coming
through
the
site
on
this
gonna,
see
the
words
John
Walker
Avenue,
so
that
road
is
being
built
right
now.
The
Lee,
Walker
Heights
redevelopment
and
the
city
is
investing
in
the
infrastructure
in
that
rodents,
water
and
sewer.
That
would
then
be
available
to
whoever
develops
to
1801
and
that's
about.
A
Okay,
so
we
see
the
water
here,
and
so
this
was
one
of
the
first
grad
conversions
that
the
housing
authority
has
undertaken
in
partnership
with
mountain
housing
opportunities,
and
so
that
was
a
96
units
of
public
housing
that
were
redeveloped
into
212
units
of
housing,
and
that
was
a
four
percent
tax
credit
deal,
and
so
the
ownership
is
held
in
the
Housing
Authority
and
then
the
joke.
The
joint
venture
of
NHO
and
the
Housing
Authority
owns
the
improvements
through
maple
crest.
So
those
are
our
neighbors
there
to
the
west
to
the
north.
A
Here
this
is
the
mini
Jones
Health
Center,
so
that
is
owned
by
Buncombe,
County
and
then
leased
to
this
Health
Center
for
Public
Health
on-site
clinic
and
then
here
of
courses
is
the
five
a
career
high
point,
five
acre
site
to
the
south,
and
this
property
is
owned
by
Mission
hospitals.
This
is
a
facility
for
them
and
to
support
and
the
work
their
admission
kind
of
across
the
way.
So
I
want
to
talk
about
this
property
and
the
plans
sure
so.
C
C
In
Asheville,
some
of
you
who
aren't
familiar
I'm
sure
with
our
process
but
anytime,
we
have
a
development
application,
come
in
for
50
units
of
housing
or
more
outside
of
the
central
business
district,
which
this
is
outside
of
the
CBD
when
it
has
50
units
or
more,
it
automatically
becomes
a
conditional
zoning.
So
what
that
means
is
that
city
council
is
going
to
be
the
ultimate
approval
for
that
project.
So
we
anticipate
that
this
will
be
a
conditional
zoning
and
there's
some
benefits
to
conditional
zoning.
C
It
allows
you
to
really
tailor
that
zoning
district
to
your
site.
So
if
there
are
things
that
are
difficult
for
you
to
meet
or
in
a
very
site-specific
there's
some
flexibility
there
and
also
sometimes
you
may
be-
you
can
do
X
that
isn't
required.
That's
a
benefit
to
the
community.
You
know,
there's
a
balance
there
of
how
that
works,
and
so
staff
would
work
closely
whoever
the
selected
developer
is
we
work
closely
with
them
to
develop
that
absolutely.
A
A
So
we
hope
that
we've
at
least
primed
both
Council
and
the
community,
on
this
vision
and
on
this
level
of
density,
not
saying
that
it
will
be
it'll,
be
easy,
but
I
think
just
the
idea
that
we've
started
at
least
to
prime
the
the
decision-makers,
as
well
as
the
participant
the
process
we
feel
like.
We've
hopefully
started
that
process
and
we're
and
we're
happy
to
work
with
someone
through
that
as
well.
When
we
get
there,
okay,
so
we'll
move
on,
and
so
now
some
some
information
about
the
due
diligence
that
we've
performed.
A
So
hopefully
you
all
have
seen
this
or
know
how
to
find
it,
and
so
what
I'm,
sharing
right
now
is
our
due
diligence
package.
Okay,
it
appears
this
way
when
you
access
it
through
our
website
or
through
the
links
that
are
embedded
in
the
RFP
itself,
and
so
what
we
have
tried
to
do
is
curate
a
lot
of
information
about
this
site
to
give
everyone
the
benefit
of
having
a
level
playing
field,
the
broad
understanding
of
some
of
these
details
on
the
site,
so
that
you
can
provide
a
good
response
for
us.
A
Quite
frankly,
so
we
have
information
here,
the
appraisal,
the
environmental
phase
ones
and
twos
a
bit
about
that.
So
part
of
what
we
saw
is
the
city's
responsibility
for
being
a
good
partner
in
the
on
the
front.
End
is
to
actually
go
ahead
and
do
some
site
work,
while
the
Lee
Walker
Heights
project
started
and
was
underway
with
the
new
roadway
that
is
coming
through
the
site,
it
was
necessary.
Some
significant
grading
occur
on
the
property
that
mean
in
the
case,
we
had
the
opportunity
to
go
ahead
and
do
some
of
the
soil
remediation.
A
That
was
there
and
so
you'll
see
that
when
the
phase
one
occurred,
we
discovered
you
know
being
that
this
site
was
a
former
Ford
car
dealership.
They
also
did
some
mechanic
in
there
we
had
some
a
couple
spots
of
soils
with
the
hydraulic,
lift
and
a
paint
mixing
room,
and
we
were
able,
in
working
with
the
on-site
contractors,
to
remove
all
those
soils
and
obtain
a
clean
site.
A
So
we're
really
happy
that
that's
the
case
that
we
now
have
a
clean
site
for
development,
and
that
is
reflected
in
some
of
those
documents
that
you
see
there.
Of
course,
the
the
great
is
also
changing,
so
that
is
is
something
else
to
be
mindful,
as
as
you
as
you
see,
that
little
Walker
project
unfold,
so
we
also
have
other
information
there
so
surveys.
The
other
thing
I'd
like
to
point
out,
is
our
urban
design,
so
in
the
Elias
file
reports.
A
So
this
is
where
you
can
get
a
lot
more
information
about
those
conceptual
drawings
that
were
developed,
there's
also
market
research
in
there.
That
was
done
at
the
time
and
2018
that
was
basically
supporting
the
level
of
commercial
that
we
had
put
forth
in
the
initial
conceptual
vision.
It
also
talked
about.
You
know
some
initial
pro
formas
when
the
city
came
to
understand.
You
know
what
level
of
subsidies
might
be
required,
that
is
all
included
within
those
la
s.
Final
reports
so
be
sure
to
take
a
look
at
those.
A
The
other
thing
that
I
would
encourage
you
to
take
a
look
at
is
the
stormwater
plans.
You'll
actually
see
the
final
plans
we're
doing
some
preliminary
stormwater
work
again.
Is
that
grading
is
taking
place
so
new
stormwater
infrastructure
will
be
installed
on
the
property,
basically
hugging,
the
edges
of
the
property,
we're
trying
to
create
as
many
opportunities
for
simple
easy
development
as
possible
so
having
some
initial
stormwater
to
be
installed
at
the
edges
of
the
perimeter
of
the
property,
was
important
and
with
the
new
roadway
that's
being
built.
A
That
is
where
new
sewer
and
new
water
infrastructure
will
be
installed
as
well.
So
hopefully,
that's
captured
in
these
documents
again,
if
you're
seeing
this
for
the
first
time
or
you
don't
know
how
to
access
this
go
to
the
website,
I'll
do
a
quick
demo
at
the
end
of
the
presentation.
Just
so
you
know
where
to
find
all
these
documents,
and
so
that
you
feel
that
you
have
everything
you
need
to
do.
Do
the
research
that
you
want
to
do
there
are
other
links
to
we
have
information
about
the
a.m.
eyes
in
our
area.
A
So
that's
going
to
help.
You
understand
what
those
affordability
numbers
need
to
be.
We
also
have
links
to
our
policy
documents,
as
well
as
our
funding
tools
and
I.
Think
I'm
going
to
just
show
some
pictures
of
the
site
as
we
see
them
today.
We
appreciate
this
is
a
live
cam
that
the
developers
of
Lee
Walker
Heights
have
across
the
street
and
so
we're
able
to
track
in
real-time
the
progress
on
the
site
and
Italy
Walker.
A
So
you
can
see
that
some
of
the
framing
is
taking
place,
which
is
incredible
and
some
of
the
paddocks
have
been
poured
and
then
our
Biltmore
site
is
down
you're
closer
to
a
bit
more
avenues.
So
we'll
just
do
a
quick
orientation
here,
so
we
see
a
bit
more
Avenue.
This
is
the
mission
hospitals,
property
that
we
mentioned
earlier
so
outside
the
319
bit
worse
site
is
roughly
within
this
perimeter,
so
you'll
see
we
can
head
north
as
we
kind
of
meet
the
Buncombe
County
property
here
on
the
northernmost
edge.
A
We
also
kind
of
take
a
this.
Is
our
dividing
line
here
and
we'll
see
some
of
that
grading?
Then
we
also
go
to
the
status,
so
the
property
extends
a
little
bit
here,
where
they've
done
some
already
some
seating
there.
You
have
another
picture
here
to
the
site
information
a
little
different
viewpoint,
so
you
get
out
orient
us
just
so
we
see
it.
So
we
have
a
bit
more
up
here
running
north-south.
This
is
our
mission
hospital
facility.
Here
we
have
Buncombe
County
here
to
the
north.
I
drew
this
blue
line.
A
So
how,
as
closely
as
possible,
it
might
be
a
little
off,
but
still
it
does
represent.
You
can
see
the
old
Batsy
store,
building
the
outline
in
that
oval
building
that
has
since
been
demolished.
This
is
where
some
of
that
soil
remediation
has
already
occurred.
You're,
seeing
some
of
that
grading
work
come
from
the
Lee
Walker
Heights
into
this
properties,
and
that
grading
work
is
being
done
now
that
a
new
roadway
that
we
think
of
is
going
to
meet
Lee
white
fun
Drive.
That
is
directly
across
the
property
right
here.
A
So
that's
where
that
new
roadway
is
going
to
be.
We
can
start
to
see
some
of
those.
So
this
is
the
existing
asphalt
here,
where
we
have
the
construction
trailer
for
Lee
Walker
can
I
see
some
of
those
pads,
so
one
quick,
note
and
I
hope
I
get
this
right,
but
I
believe
the
time
line
for
the
completion
of
the
Lee
Walker
construction
schedule
is
going
to
be
spring
of
2021.
A
So
we
are
hopeful
that
we
can
dovetail
these
projects
very
smoothly
from,
but
as
far
as
I
know,
that
project
is
is
going
super
well
there
on
time
and
they've
got
a
great
team
working
out
there.
So
we
are
very
hopeful
that,
as
this
process
to
select
the
developer
for
319
Biltmore
gets
underway
that
we
will
have
a
smooth
transition.
So
thinking
about
it,
you
know
we
think
of
developer
selection.
That's
gonna,
occur
really
heavy
in
2020
here
and
I
think
we
can
easily
see
that
we
will
be
in
negotiations
with
a
developer
this
summer.
A
So
with
our
selected
developer,
we
really
hope
to
be
in
conversation
and
in
some
indistinct
collaboration
with
the
selected
developer
the
summer
and
hopefully
achieving
that
council
approval
in
the
summer
early
fall,
and
then
we
expect
that
that
would
go
full
into
the
entitlement
process.
So
as
the
final
site
designs
for
319
are
developed,
I'm
working
with
planning
on
the
process.
A
One
thing
to
you
know
with
the
addition
of
two
hundred
and
twelve
units
here
at
Lee,
Walker
and
again
are
densities
that
we
were
looking
for.
You
know
our
initial
concept
was
saying
it
was
on
the
order
of
three
hundred
on
units.
You
can
see
with
a
five
hundred
unit
new
community
that
is
now
that
is
going
to
happen
here.
Oh
interesting,
I
just
saw
you
look
right
here
to
this
is
short
cox
avenue
that
runs
here.
You
can
see
these
new
town
homes
that
are
being
built
here,
lots
of
interesting
development.
A
If
you
see
the
number
of
cars,
the
number
of
people
that
they
have
coming
into
this
community
or
into
utilizing
services
day
and
day
out,
the
only
ingress
and
egress
from
their
property
is
was
these
two
spots
here
and
here
they
love
the
opportunity
to
really.
You
know,
have
ingress
and
egress
on
this
backside
or
perhaps
through
the
319
Biltmore,
so
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
opportunity
to
create
connections
that
would
benefit
this
area.
A
B
Upwards
to
50
people
on
this
call
and
I
know
some
of
that
staff,
but
it's
really
exciting
to
see
this
is
developer.
Interest
I,
think
everyone
knows
how
much
we
support
our
our
local
developer
developers,
our
nonprofit
tax
credit
or
product
developers
that
are
working
in
our
area,
but
it's
great
to
see
others
interested
in
what
the
Nashville
as
our
local
folks.
We
can't
do
it
all.
On
our
end.
We
have
that
lack
of
supply.
So
it's
really
excited
to
see
so
many
people
on
this
ball.
B
So
we're
very
excited
to
see
that
policy
move
forward
and
we've
really
spent
the
last
year
kind
of
updating
some
of
the
policies
you
see
here
to
see
them
be
more
utilized
to
be
more
active
with
developers
that
developers
see
that
these
are
tools
that
are
simple,
useful
and
equated
to
a
dollar
amount
that
they
could
put
another
performer
that
helps
us
would
admit
the
portability
that
we're
looking
for.
So
the
list
is
here.
We
have
our
Housing
Trust
Fund,
which
is
the
laundry
low-interest
loan
program
of
the
city.
B
It's
where
we
can
that
the
largest
we've
improved
is
1.8
million
dollars.
We
can
do
interest
in
the
early
102
percent
for
construction
or
permanent
loan
and
those
percentages,
and
the
amount
is
kind
of
based
on
what
your
you're
offering
of
the
city
in
terms
of
the
portability
of
the
bill.
So
that's
a
good
negotiation
thinking
that
money.
How
in
this
development
or
other
developments,
does
this
fit
in?
Possibly
it
made
it
the
319th
bill
horn,
but
information
is
available
there.
B
Land
use
that
Senator
grant
is
probably
the
biggest
thing
we've
updated,
that
is
property
tax
grant
for,
in
exchange.
For
minimal
housing
and
other
community
means
that
the
city
of
Nashville
is
looking
for,
and
so
that
policy
has
been
updated.
We've
got
a
major
it's
there,
where
it's
a
self-scoring
and
based
on
that
score,
you
can
see
receive
X
amount
of
city,
property,
tax
grants
back
to
you
or
up
to
21
years.
B
So
if
your
current
valuable
property
is
five
thousand
dollars
and
after
the
build
it's
$105,000,
if
you
qualified
for
25
years
or
skew
to
be
twenty
years
of
property
tax
grant,
we
would
grant
back
that
difference
of
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
20
years
and
how
does
that
fit
in
on
your
pro
forma
to
help
achieve
these
affordable
units?
We
also
updated
the
rebates
where
you
can
receive
a
fifty
seventy
five
percent
or
100
percent
off
most
of
your
fees
or
the
affordable
units
you
bill
and
that
also
again
repeating,
has
been
updated
and
working.
B
Anastacia
metropolitan
Sewer
votes
for
the
affordable
units
currently
for
a
regular
unit.
I
think
it's
about
$1,900,
but
when
you
do
an
affordable
unit,
I
think
the
charge
is
only
six.
Ninety
suit
got
a
statement
of
about
$1,200
per
portable
unit,
plus
the
other
rebates
that
fit
into
your
pro
forma
again,
tying
it
to
a
dollar
or
not
that
you
can
use.
B
We
have
CDBG
incoming
funds,
which
those
allocation
periods
have
closed
on
February
7th,
but
there
might
be
possibility
in
this
next
upcoming
year
to
utilize
them
at
the
HUD
funding,
and
also
we
kind
of
expedited
review
so
that
a
project
includes
a
Lemmo
affordability
which
promotes
upon
entering
into
our
policies
is
what
we
call
twenty
eighty
twenty.
If
you
are
providing
20%
of
the
units
at
80%
ami
area,
median
income
for
twenty
years,
it's
the
door
opener
to
our
policies,
and
it
also
is
the
opening
Fornax
by
the
review.
B
So
it
is
right
next
door
and
how
does
I
look
for
a
new
500
plus
community,
so
I
appreciated
that
those
are
the
incentives
and
I
want
to
say
quickly.
Maybe
if
I
know
we
can
take
questions
and
we're
probably
at
the
end
of
the
presentation
to
take
their
questions,
but
I
did
want
to
mention
that
it
was
really
important
for
us
to
turn
the
development
harder
pay.
Then
that
would
receive
responses
back
and
we
really
listened
to
developers
over
the
last
year
what
they
were
looking
for
an
RFP.
B
So
hopefully
you
all
see
that
the
work
were
curious
about
feedback
on
that
email.
Me
I'd
really
like
to
hear
every
photo
missing.
You
know
we
don't
need
the
kudos
necessary
limit.
Now
it's
a
great
honor,
but
if
you
saw
some
things
that
were
challenging
for
you
as
a
developer
that
me
it
might
make
you
do
not
want
to
apply
we'd
like
to
hear
about
that.
Two
things
we
looked
at
was
you
know
a.
B
A
You
Paul
I,
think
you
know.
One
thing
that
I
wanted
to
share
to
you
is
that
so
the
city
just
completed
our
first
transaction
on
city-owned
land
for
the
development
of
a
mixed
income,
affordable
community,
and
that
was
a
360
Hilliard
Avenue
adjacent
to
the
city's
Aston
Park
Tennis
Center,
with
the
cast
injured
development
group
by
for-profit,
developer
and
I.
Think
what
I
appreciate
about
that
about
that
process
and
managing
that
transaction
is
that
we
were
able
to
put
together
a
deal
with
a
for-profit
developer
that
is
utilized
almost
every
tool
we
had.
A
But
at
the
end
the
outcome
that
we're
achieving
is
it's
a
96
unit
development
with
almost
half
of
those
units
being
affordable
to
individuals
and
families
at
both
60%
ami
and
80%
ami
for
a
period
of
50
years,
and
the
stack
that
we
used
to
get
there
is
that
we
partnered
on
the
city
land
cost.
So
it
was
a
reduction
in
the
city,
land
cost,
as
well
as
a
Housing
Trust
Fund
loan.
A
That
came
in
a
second
position
behind
the
traditional
bank
financing
there's
also
a
land
use
incentive
grant
associate
with
that
property,
and
then
we
partnered
with
infrastructure
on
that
property
as
well
we're
doing
a
shared
parking
lot
to
the
rear
of
the
Tennis
Center.
That
will
serve
the
Tennis
Center,
as
well
as
the
overflow
parking
for
the
project
itself.
A
They
also
took
advantage
of
our
expedited
permit
review,
just
meaning
that
our
permit
team
really
handled
them
with
care,
and
we
tried
to
be
as
responsive
that
we
as
we
could
to
see
that
they
got
through
the
entitlements.
So
we
feel
that
we
that
project
closed
or
the
transaction
occurred
in
this
summer
and
they
are
now
have
broken
ground
and
work
is
underway.
So
we
feel
fortunate
to
have
put
that
deal
together
and
to
see
that
coming
out
of
the
ground
and
we're
just
hoping
to
utilize.
A
Our
experience
there
to
then
help
3:19
no
more
be
a
success,
so
I'm
just
kind
of
close
and
then
we'll
transition
into
questions,
I'm,
just
the
review
in
response
timeline
and
what
you
can
expect.
So
really,
you
know
the
RFP
we
hope
speaks
for
itself.
If
you
just
read
through
and
read
the
criteria,
we
wanted
to
be
as
clear
as
possible
on
the
objectives
and
what
we
hoped
would
would
resonate
and
so
take
good
care
with
reviewing
that
and
ensuring
that
that
you've
got
the
information
there
through
the
RFP.
A
The
submission
scoring
criteria
is
listed
on
page
16,
and
the
majority
of
that
has
to
do
with
the
experience
and
capacity
that
you
are
demonstrating
as
a
developer
and
development
team
and
then
also
is
your
approach
to
the
site.
So
those
two
things
are
what
we're
looking
for.
Of
course,
the
must-have
is
to
meet
and/or
exceed
those
baseline
objectives.
So
once
we
review
those
submittals,
a
scoring
matrix
will
be
completed,
and
then
we
will
ask
the
top-ranking
responders
to
join
us
for
an
interview
we
haven't
set
those
dates
yet
likely
late
April.
A
We
might
want
to
get
those
nailed
down
as
soon
as
possible.
I
know
everyone's
busy
with
with
holidays,
and
things
like
that.
Spring
Break
coming
up
so
we'll
see
good
forecasts
that
out
so
that
everyone
can
have
that
on
their
calendars.
And
then
once
we
have
those
interviews,
we
hope
to
work
with.
Perhaps
the
top-ranked
firm,
maybe
maybe
one
or
two,
but
really
we
want
to
get
down
to
business
at
that
point
and
start
collaborating
with
the
developer
on
their
development
approach
as
well
as
what
those
deal
points
will
be.
So
we
will.
A
Would
be
the
fruitful
and
productive
time
that
we
have
to
work
on
on
finessing
and
finalizing
that
plan
and
then
lastly,
our
City
Council
will
approve
those
deal
terms
will
allow
us
enter
into
an
MOU,
purchase
and
sale
agreement
and
then
development
agreement.
So,
okay,
so
I
think
at
this
point
we
are
ready
for
questions.
I
see
a
couple
on
the
chat
and
so
Paul
you
and
I.
Both
might
need
to
answer
that
one.
So
we
have
the
first
one
came
in
saying:
how
did
how
do
they
finance
360,
Hilliard
and
Paul?
A
A
A
So
next
section
that
we
have
do,
we
have
a
retail
commercial
partner
already
identified
for
the
potential
commercial
space.
That's
a
great
question
and
I
have
some
ideas.
I
have
not
certain
in
one
thing
that
I'm
holding
in
my
back
pocket
that
I
want
everyone
to
be
aware
of.
Is
that
the
city
currently
leases
our
city-owned
health.
It's
our
health
services
facility,
so
as
a
part
of
our
benefits
of
being
an
employee
of
the
city
of
Asheville.
A
There's
a
health
clinic
that
we
have
access
to
this
health
clinic
also
does
all
of
the
city's
drug
testing,
as
well
as
physical
fitness
testing
for
our
police
officers,
as
well
as
our
sanitation
workers,
firefighters,
etc.
They
currently
leased
space
about
two
or
three
blocks
from
this
location.
I
would
be
super
excited
to
see
if
there
is
potential
to
be
Alessi
at
this
property.
So
if
that
could
work
out,
I
think
you
know
the
city
can
control
the
Hat,
which
is
great
and
I,
think
we
could
control
wherever
we
go.
A
So
if
there
was
an
opportunity
for
the
city
to
then
relocate
that
health
services
facility
to
this
space
and
it
helped
to
underwrite
those
costs,
I
think
we
would
be
more
than
willing
to
consider
it
also.
You
know
we
do
have
some
ideas
on
the
commercial
space.
You
know
how
we'll
do
community
services
function
there
and
I
think
that
will
really
be
ideas
that
we
can
explore
and
I
know
we'll
need
to
figure
out
what
kind
of
financial
partners
could
be
available
for
that.
A
So
I
think
we're
open
and
we're
willing
to
bring
to
bear
our
relationships
to
help
figure
that
out
and
also
even
if
it
means
our
tendency
right,
so
we're
excited
about
exploring
that
that
will
really
take
place.
This
is
what
I'm
talking
about
when
we
say
we
go
into
negotiations.
That's
what
I
really
hope
to
nail
some
of
those
things
down
next
question:
what
is
a
time
line
for
the
hotel
and
well
I
have
on-site
parking
Sasha
and
you
ain't
I
am.
C
Not
sure
about
the
time
line
for
the
hotel
honestly
in
their
conditions,
I
know
they
had
at
least
three
years
and
if
not
five
years
to
get
that
you
know
constructed
so
that
could
string
out
some.
They
did
have
on
Street
on
site
parking.
That
is
a
requirement
of
conditional
zoning
and
I
believe
they
had
a
they're
wrapping
a
deck,
basically
so
not
necessarily
visible,
but
there
is
a
parking
deck
there
as
a
part
of
that
hotel.
A
So
I'm
seeing
the
next
question:
how
many
square
feet
is
the
health
services
I,
can't
that
I
don't
have
it
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
tell
you
what
we
will
we'll
take
a
look
at
that
and
we'll
publish
that
in
a
response
to
their
written
questions.
So
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
question?
Is
there
a
maximum
percentage
of
affordable
units
that
you
have
in
mind
and
I'm
gonna?
Let
Paul
the
Antelope
answer
that
question.
So
is
there
a
maximum
percentage
of
affordable,
affordable
units
that
you
have
in
mind.
A
Okay,
so
the
next
question
here
is
there
a
revised
grading
plan
available.
So
yes,
as
part
of
the
lead,
Walker
Heights
constructions
plans,
the
plan
set
I
believe
there
is
a
final
grading
plans,
we'll
make
sure
to
pull
that
and
to
post
it
within
the
due
diligence
materials.
So
we'll
write
that
down
as
it
to
do
for
us.
A
The
next
question:
will
the
7.2
million
in
site
costs
be
expected
to
be
recouped
in
the
development
budget,
so
those
7.2
million
in
site
costs
that
have
already
been
expended
by
the
city?
Let
it
be
expected
to
be
recouped,
so
just
a
word
on
that,
so
7.2
million
I
think
it
was
Paul
or
Sasha
who
mentioned
that
earlier.
So
really.
What
costs?
This
far
to
be
perfectly
clear,
include
a
5.3
million
dollar
purchase
price
from
Duke
Energy,
so
that
was
the
price
in
which
we
purchased
the
property.
That's
out
the
door.
A
We
also
have
spent
the
remainder
of
that
on
site
improvements,
and
that
includes
both
the
soil,
remediation,
the
stormwater
infrastructure
to
be
installed
there,
as
well
as
the
roadway
improvements
and
the
sewer
and
water
improvements.
So
those
are
the
side
costs
that
have
been
expended
thus
far.
I
think
the
expectation
for
the
site
I
mean
again
I.
Think
the
city
has
has
recognized
that,
in
order
to
achieve
the
affordable
outcomes
that
we
want
to
see
that
we
will
need
to
be
a
funding
partner
in
this
project.
A
But
this
is
why
we
want
to
see
how
the
pro
forma
functions,
because
we
want
our
dollars
on
our
investment
to
be
directly
attributable
to
the
affordability
outcomes.
That's
basically
how
we
do
our
work
is
that
we
must
be
able
to
account
for
the
city's
investment
into
the
affordable
outcomes.
We
have
to
see
that
drawn
as
a
clear
shot.
So
I
don't
think
it's
really
that
we
want
to
see
our
cost
recouped.
A
What
I
would
say
is
that,
if
a
if
a
pro
forma
says
that
that
the
performing
needs
a
city,
investment
of
5
million
or
a
city
investment
of
X,
then
we
want
to
see
how
that
plays
out
in
the
pro
forma.
We
want
to
see
how
that
5
million
counts
towards
the
number
of
units
that
are
created
and
I
hope
that
answers
that
question,
but
really
the
the
things
that
we
need
to
link
is
not
necessarily
recouping
our
site
costs,
but
that
any
investment
that
the
city
makes
is
directly
attributable
to
the
affordability
outcomes.
A
B
So
does
the
city
come
in?
You
know
in
no
simple
formula
for
this,
but
to
City
come
in
for
half
of
that,
or
a
little
bit
more
than
half
to
show
our
partnership
and
we're
really
interested
to
see
like
we've
identified
the
subsidy.
But
we're
curious
to
see
the
proposals
coming
forward
about
how
these
partners
singing
then
coming
forward
with
their
major
break
to
the
table,
and
so
they
need
to
make
it
profile.
Work.
A
So
good
question:
so
then
here
we
have
the
next
question:
will
the
new
John
walk
will
drive,
be
totally
constructed
upon
the
completion
of
Lee
Walker
heights?
Absolutely
yes,
and
so
that
I
I'm
thinking
that
the
roadway
plans
will
be
included
on
the
final
grading
plans
or
at
least
in
that
construction
set
and
so
we'll
hope
to
highlight.
But
absolutely
the
water
lines
will
be
there.
The
sewer
lines
will
be
there
and
the
new
drive
and
sidewalk
will
also
be
installed.
So
I'm
not
seeing
any
more
questions.
A
We're
just
gonna
keep
our
eye
on
it.
But
while
we
kind
of
start
wrapping
up
here,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone
is
clear
on
these
resources,
and
that
know
they
know
where
to
find
them
so
I'm
just
going
to
exit
from
our
screen
for
questions
and
I
just
want
to
orient
everyone
so
that
we
all
understand
how
to
how
to
get
at
these
resources.
So
again,
this
is.
A
Do
I
think
we
do
expect
that
the
transition
will
have
to
be
very
well
coordinated
when
the
new
development
goes
in
and
I
will
say
that
you
know
the
city
was
a
financial
partner
in
the
development
of
the
leap
walker
heights.
We
were
really
happy
to
sit
at
the
table
with
both
Buncombe
County,
the
housing
authority
and
the
other
financial
partners
in
the
Lee,
Walker
Tax
Credit
project
to
fill
that
affordability
gap,
and
so
as
a
financial
partner.
A
We've
we've
developed
a
great
relationship
with
that
team,
and
so
we
do
hope
that
the
coordination
there
will
be
as
smooth
as
possible.
So
concerns
like
that.
We
hope
that
we
can
overcome
through
the
power
of
our
partnership
there
with
with
the
partner
development
and
a
good
question.
Certainly
so
again
you.
A
Nc
gov,
slash,
319,
Biltmore,
all
lowercase
and
you'll,
see
that
we
just
have
you
aren't
happening
now.
So
if
we
click
on
this
link,
it'll
take
us
to
the
RFP.
This
is
the
latest
version,
so
I've
actually
taken
down
some
of
the
older
versions,
and
this
is
the
latest
and
what
I
mean
by
latest.
You
know,
as
I
said
earlier,
that
page
count
has
changed.
A
So
when
you
see
this
RFP
you'll
see
that
page
count,
change
and
I'm
sorry
I'm
going
to
fly
through
it,
because
I
want
to
I
want
to
make
sure
that
what
I'm
saying
is
correct,
but
this
is
yeah,
so
we
have
a
updated
page
count
that
information
is
going
to
be
on
page
six
there.
So
you
see
that
is
the
latest
version,
other
things
on
this
website,
so
we
have
a
little
bit
of
background
a
little
bit
of
timeline
supporting
documents.
So
again,
this
is
another
quick
way
to
navigate
to
that
due
diligence
package.
A
A
There
we
go,
it
should
take
us
there
and
again
we
can
open
up
any
of
these
and
hopefully
fine.
So
if
we
want
to
take
a
look
at
the
stormwater
plan,
we
will
include
that
grading
plan
in
this
location.
So
this
is
this
file
set,
is
where
you
will
find
that
grading
plan,
and
so
again
you
can
navigate
and
hopefully
open
that.
A
So
alright
and
then
I'm
looking
for
any
other
links
here,
so
we
also
have
our
policy
for
affordable
housing,
some
of
the
full
reports
that
were
done
by
Lord
X
sergeant.
Those
are
these
documents
here
we
wanted
just
to
make
this
as
as
simple
as
possible.
So
really
as
you
go
through
the
RFP
itself,
these
links
are
also
embedded
in
the
RFP.
So
again
you
know
this
is
the
same
policy
document.
A
A
C
Wanted
to
I
think
we're
getting
to
the
end
here
and
just
before
we
end
I
wanted
to
mention
going
back
to
that
funding
question
earlier,
that
this
is
in
an
opportunity
zone,
mom
we're
in
census,
track
9.
So
we're
not
I'm,
not
necessarily
expert
on
opportunities
owns,
but
there
may
be
ways
for
someone
to
make
that
help
them
your
project
in
a
Performa.
So
something
to
be
aware
of
great.
A
Exactly
yes,
that's
very
important
to
see
if
that,
if
that
really
helps
so
yeah,
so
here's
the
stormwater
plan
you
can
see
it
will
be
installed.
So
hopefully
there's
a
good
amount
of
resources
there.
Okay,
some!
What
you
see
I
think
it
looks
as
if
our
questions
have
come
to
an
end
and
it's
11
o'clock,
so
I
think
it's
about
time
to
wrap
up
again.
If
you
have
any
more
questions,
please
submit
those
in
writing
to
paul
d'angelo.
A
His
contact
information
is
is
contained
within
the
rfp
and
we'll
happy
to
it
collate
all
those
questions
I
think
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
ensure
that
we
address
all
these
questions.
Also
in
writing
so
you'll
get
that
and
we
will
also
just
post
this
webinar
the
presentation
on
the
website
as
well.
So
we
were
not
able
to
record
this
webinar
today,
sadly,
but
we
will
make
sure
that
we
post
it
and
so
with
that-
and
you
really
appreciate
the
participation
today
and
appreciate
the
interest
in
this
site.