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Good
morning,
I'm
vice
mayor,
shanika
smith
and
the
chair
of
the
public
safety
committee.
I'd
like
to
welcome
you
all
to
our
june
22nd
meeting.
All
council
members
and
staff
are
participating
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introduce
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and
introduce
the
council
members
and
staff
who
are
participating
with
us
virtually
I'll.
Just
give
a
quick
hello,
kilgore,
helpful
woman,
ronin,
hello,
councilwoman,
councilwoman
campbell.
B
Hello,
deputy
city
attorney
john
maddox,
hello,
everyone,
police,
chief,
david
zack,
hello,
fire,
chief,
scott
burnett,.
B
A
D
Good
morning,
yes,
this
is
jensen
gelsons.
I
live
in
west
asheville
and
just
wanted
to
talk
about
the
summer.
2020
protests
around
the
death
of
george
floyd
and
what
happened
there
and
specifically,
the
use
of
less
lethal
weapons.
D
D
Protesters
were
getting
closer
to
police,
but
you
know
it's
interesting
that
that's
what
started
this
use
of
chemical
munitions
and
it's
also
interesting
to
note
that
there
was
intelligence
coming
into
the
police
headquarters
that
showed
that
in
other
cities,
when
tear
gas
is
used
on
protesters,
it
increases
the
violence
of
the
following
events.
And
indeed
that's
what
happened
here.
In
asheville,
there
were
no
violent
protests
or
looting
or
arson
prior
to
the
use
of
chemical
munitions.
D
But
after
the
use
of
chemical
munitions
on
the
jeff
bone
bridge,
things
were
really
inflamed
and
you
know
I
do
look
at
the
use
of
tear
gas
as
something
that
increased
the
temperature
of
the
confrontations
and
yeah.
I
do
not
think
that
it
helped
also
after
the
first
gassing
in
the
following
days.
D
The
police
used
tear
gas
canisters
by
their
own
admonition
against
people
who
are
not
behaving
violently.
They
used
it
to
on
people
who
were
peacefully
protesting
or
folks
who
were
simply
staying
out
past
curfew
by
the
reports
on
his
mission.
D
The
police
used
it
to
try
and
disperse
folks
who
decided
to
not
obey
the
curfew
and
to
try
and
chase
folks
who
were
running
through
parking
garages.
Is
this
really
how
we
want
to
be
using
tear
gas?
Is
this
even
something
we
want
to
be
using
at
all?
Is
it
helping
our
town
at
all,
or
is
it
only
causing
additional
harm
and
trauma
to
those
people.
A
B
B
Okay,
we'll
have
a
roll
call
vote
to
approve
the
motion,
say
aye.
If
you
wish
to
approve
the
minutes,
councilwoman
kilgore,
aye,
councilwoman
roni
I
and
myself
I,
the
minutes-
have
been
approved.
B
C
Thank
you
vice
mayor
good
morning,
members
of
committee
annually
fema
administers
an
assistance
to
firefighters
grant
program.
We
have
applied
for
these
grants
annually
for
many
years
this
year.
We
would
like
to
apply
again
and
what
we
would
like
to
apply
for
are
air
compressors
that
fill
the
self-contained
breathing
apparatus
that
our
firefighters
wear
into
fires,
and
also
our
scuba
bottles
that
our
firefighters
wear
and
dive
operations.
C
B
B
G
B
C
B
Sir
okay,
thank
you.
Next,
we'll
have
an
update
from
the
asheville
police
department.
Chief
david
zak
is
here
to
present.
H
Morning
vice
mayor
members
of
council
and
city
staff,
what
we
I'd
like
to
introduce
is,
I
always
have
with
me
deputy
chiefs,
bombsterk
and
deputy
chief
yelton
are
here
joining
me
this
morning.
What
I've
been
asked
to
prepare
as
a
presentation
that
kind
of
gives
an
overall
crime
picture
in
our
city
and
and
kind
of
how
that
picture
has
changed
over
the
last
five
to
ten
years.
H
So
next,
please,
the
key
takeaways
that
you
know
we
want
to
share
is
that
over
the
past
10
years,
asheville
has
experienced
an
increase
in
violent
crime,
which
is
on
trend
with
really
other
metropolitan
metropolitan
cities
in
north
carolina
like
raleigh,
charlotte
mecklenburg
and
greenville
apd
continues
to
work
with
other
city
departments
and
our
community
partners
to
take
proactive
steps
to
reduce
crime
and
reimagine
the
role
of
apd,
and
that,
despite
our
well-documented
staffing
shortage,
apd
is
still
aggressively
working
and
developing
strategies
to
address
violent
crime
and
other
types
of
violent
crime.
H
What
this
particular
graph
shows
is
kind
of,
what's
unique
and
consistent
with
what's
happening
in
asheville,
but
also
kind
of
gives
you
a
kind
of
an
overview
of
what's
been
happening
in
north
carolina,
which
is
kind
of
a
unique
situation
where
you
can
see
over
the
past
10
years,
crime
has
kind
of
risen
and
fallen
in
our
city
and
in
our
state,
consistent
with
what
the
national
picture
looks
like,
but
you
can
see
as
you
move
towards
2019,
while
crime,
particularly
violent
crime
across
the
country,
has
decreased,
you
can
see
in
2018
and
2019
in
north
carolina.
H
That
number
is
is
rising.
So
when
you
look
over
the
10-year
period,
what
was
a
consistent
state
and
national
levels
and
rates
of
violent
crime
were
consistent
with
one
another,
for
whatever
reason-
and
I
think
we've
got
to
do-
a
deeper
dive
into
this
statewide
is
north.
Carolina
in
particular,
is
over
the
last
two
years
gone
up
where
the
rest
of
the
the
country
has
gone
down.
H
Here's
just
our
overall
crime
in
the
city
going
back
to
2011.,
you
can
see
some
some
rises
and
falls,
but
pretty
much
from
2-4
2014
on
we've
seen
kind
of
this,
this
steady
increase.
H
This
is
overall
crime,
not
just
violent
crime,
with
a
big
peak
there
in
in
2019
and
then
in
2020.
We
did
see
a
slight
drop
off
still
higher
than
2018,
but
again
not
as
bad
as
2019.
and
again
this
is
overall
crime.
So
you
know
what
we're
looking
at
is:
okay,
what
what
drove
crime
down
in
2020
and
in
the
next
slide.
H
You'll
see
really
our
drop
in
crime
was
more
attributed
to
the
fact
that
property
crime
went
down.
So
these
are
your
burglaries,
your
larcenies
from
motor
vehicles,
motor
vehicle
theft,
arson
crimes
of
that
nature
took
a
drop
in
2020.,
so
the
factors
there,
obviously
there's
a
covet
effect
there.
Businesses
were
closed
down.
H
H
So,
unfortunately,
violent
crime
in
2020
went
up
and,
as
you
can
see,
it's
been
a
pretty
steady
rise
with
the
exception
of
a
little
blip
there
in
2015,
violent
crime
has
continued
to
rise
rather
significantly
over
the
last
10
years.
If
you
go
back
to
2011
to
today,
or
at
least
till
2020,
we've
experienced
over
almost
a
45
increase
in
violent
crime
and
we're
talking
about
violent
crime.
H
H
H
Please
always
a
concerned
is:
is
homicides.
These
are
her
most
clearly
our
most
violent
offenses.
So
I
guess
you
know
you
don't
want
to
say
it's
good
news,
but
certainly
with
what
other
major
cities
across
the
country
are
experiencing
from
2019
to
2020
major
increases
in
homicide
and
and
murder.
So
major
city
chiefs
found
that
homicides
rose
by
more
than
32
percent
in
66
major
cities
from
2019
to
2020..
H
We
did
not
experience
that.
Fortunately,
in
2020
we
did
have
a
slight
rise
in
homicide.
We
had
10
people
killed
in
asheville
and
so
far
this
year
and
unfortunately
that
yesterday,
that
number
was
four
and
overnight
we
did
have
another
murder
and
an
arrest
was
made
in
that
case.
So
we're
you
know
pretty
much
on
pace
for
where
we
were
last
year.
H
Unfortunately,
but
again
we
have
not
experienced
that
major
spike
that
other
american
cities
have
just
to
kind
of
show
you
our
effectiveness
in
resolving
these
crimes
and
bringing
people
to
justice
when
you're
talking
about
homicide
clearance
rates.
You
know
the
national
average,
according
to
the
fbi,
is
just
over
61
clearance
rate,
and
here
in
asheville
you
can
see
from
2019
2020
and
now
in
2021.
H
We
are
having
success
in
bringing
those
perpetrators
to
justice,
so
our
clearance
rate
on
these
homicides
is
on
par
with
the
national
average
and
sometimes
even
ahead
of
it.
As
you
can
see,
we're
we're
doing
very
well
clearing
these
crimes
in
2021..
H
Gun
violence.
Obviously
you
know
this
is
an
area
where
we've
tried
to
be
very,
very
aggressive
despite
staffing
shortages.
So
far
this
year
we
have
seen
a
slight
reduction.
This
time.
Last
year
we
had
21
people
in
the
city
shot,
including
last
night's
victim.
That
number
is
18.,
so
we've
seen
a
very
slight
drop.
I
don't
know
if
that's
statistically
significant
to
say
we're
making
a
huge
impact,
but
but
the
number
is
slightly
lower,
where
we've
done
very
very
well.
H
H
All
of
last
year
was
200
and
again
we
had
a
much
larger
staff
in
2020
than
we
do
today,
so
we're
being
very
aggressive,
trying
to
take
guns
out
of
the
hands
of
violent
offenders,
and
one
of
the
reasons
we've
been
very
successful
with
that
is.
We
are
really
doing
a
much
more
coordinated
effort
with
our
federal
state
and
local
partners
in
working
and
addressing
the
gun.
Violence-
that's
occurring
here
in
our
city.
H
Gun
discharges
in
the
calls
that
we
go
on
these
are
high
priority
calls
and
again
you
can
see
from
2017
to
2020
we've
seen
a
significant
increase,
not
only
in
the
number
of
gun
discharge
that
we're
sending
our
officers
to,
but
also
you
know,
kind
of
a
a
rise
in
the
number
of
people
shot.
Last
year
we
had
45
people
shot
in
our
city,
2019
it
was
38,
which
was
was
down
a
little
bit
from
2018.
H
H
Kind
of
our
traffic
enforcement,
this
kind
of
gives
you
a
picture
of
where
we're
at
with
with
our
traffic
stops,
and
you
can
see.
2020
was
a
major
major
decrease
in
the
number
of
traffic
stops
that
we're
conducting
a
lot
of
that
again.
I
think
we
can
attribute
to
the
covet
effect,
as
we
were
not
doing
as
much
proactive,
worse
work.
Obviously,
we
did
not
want
to
spread
infection
or
risk
the
possibility
of
our
staff
becoming
infected
and
then
losing
a
large
number
of
staff.
H
So
our
proactive
efforts
really
went
down
in
in
2020
and
again
that
was
mostly
attributed
to
covid.
However,
you
can
see
2021,
those
numbers
have
taken
another
serious
drop
to
date
and
I
think
they'll
be
far
below
the
2020
numbers,
and
that
again
is
twofold.
H
Clearly,
the
staffing
shortage
affects
a
lot
of
that,
but
also
to
our
focus
on
addressing
violent
crime
and
some
of
our
proactive
traffic
enforcement
has
suffered
as
a
result
of
both
next
please
citations,
again
same
thing.
You
can
see,
you
know
say,
since
2016
citations
went
down
significantly
the
big
rise
in
2019.
H
Of
course,
this
predates
me,
but
I've
been
informed
by
staff
in
2019
because
of
the
pedestrians
being
struck
and
significant
rises
in
injury
and
property
damage
accidents
that
there
was
a
big,
proactive
effort
to
be
very
proactive
in
very
enforcement,
heavy
citations
to
to
kind
of
curb
those
those
issues
that
we
were
experiencing
so
again,
a
huge
enforcement
effort
that
took
place
in
2019,
but
again
now
we
get
to
2020
and
covid
and
now
2021
still.
H
A
combination
of
covet
and
traffic
are
in
staffing
shortage,
where
in
six
months,
we've
only
written
roughly
700
citations,
that's
an
extremely
extremely
low
number
of
traffic
citations
being
issued,
but
again
the
covet
factor
and
also
clearly
the
staffing
shortage
and
again
just
refocusing
our
efforts
on
violent
crime
and
again
traffic
enforcement
has
suffered
as
a
result.
H
Next,
when
you're
looking
at
those
700
citations
and
what
we're
actually
writing
for
you
can
see
over
half
of
these
are
moving
violations.
H
The
next
category,
major
category
would
be
you
know
regulatory
violations,
and
that
would
be
unregistered
motor
vehicles,
uninspected
vehicles
and
vehicles
that
are
not
and
should
not
insured.
But
again
the
vast
majority
of
tickets
that
we
write
and
citations
that
we
issue
are
for
those
moving
safety
violations.
E
E
Was
there
some
kind
of
law
and
effect,
or
was
there
some
kind
of
program
and
effect
to
increase
that
kind
of
activity.
H
Absolutely-
and
I
think
again
that
predated
me,
but
that's
why
I
bring
my
deputy
chiefs
along
who've,
been
been
around
a
little
bit
longer.
So
I
think
deputy
chief
yelten
can
explain
what
the
enforcement
effort
looked
like
in
2019.
I
I
I
The
key
to
reducing
your
traffic
deaths
is
to
change
driver
behavior.
I
don't
think
it's
any
surprise
to
anybody
that
driver
behavior
in
the
city
of
asheville
is
oftentimes
very
poor,
and
then
we
were
seeing
the
results
of
that
in
our
traffic
fatality
and
injury
numbers.
So
when
I
took
over
command
of
the
patrol
division,
I
directed
not
only
my
traffic
safety
unit
but
the
rest
of
the
patrol
division
to
go
out
and
spend
some
of
their
discretionary
time
conducting
traffic
enforcement
in
areas
where
we
had
high
levels
of
traffic,
complaints
and
crashes.
E
Okay,
but
it
still
looks
like
it
still
looks
like
an
absorbent
amount,
the
differences
and,
and
so
what
we
actually
did
now
is
we
sort
of
not
enforcing
it?
To
that
degree
now
is
that
it.
I
Correct
because,
with
the
staffing
reductions
we've
had,
we
simply
don't
have
the
discretionary
time
available
to
our
officers
and
the
number
of
officers
available
to
go
out
and
address
the
speed
and
violations
that
we
have
across
the
city
to
the
level
that
we
did
previously.
E
I
It
would
absolutely
be
my
intention
to
to
go
back
to
again
addressing
speed
and
driver
behavior
complaints
throughout
the
city.
Yes,.
H
I
think
a
lot
of
that
I
mean
a
lot
of
traffic
enforcement
effort
also
is
going
to
center
around
crash
data
yeah
and
again,
if
we
start
seeing,
I
mean
we
always
get
complaints
or
requests
for
additional
enforcement
in
certain
neighborhoods,
especially
where
there's
a
lot
of
children
and
so
forth.
So
we'll
we'll
do
some
targeted
enforcement
in
those
areas.
H
But
again
you
know
our
enforcement
effort
is
really
going
to
be
dictated
by
crash
reports
and
where
we're
seeing
large
numbers
of
accidents
and
as
the
deputy
chief
said,
you
know,
asheville
led
all
of
north
carolina
in
traffic
fatalities
prior
to
2019.
H
H
That
was
that
we
were
very
aggressive
in
and
and
we're
no
longer
participating
in
that,
I
think,
did
some
of
the
grant
money
on
that
drop
as
well
correct.
So
you
know
again,
it
depends
what
sort
of
grants
are
available
and
again,
if
you're
going
to
target
dwi
and
that
sort
of
enforcement,
you
know
you're
going
to
grab
more
offenders.
So
it's
really
just
just
like
any
other
crime
is
following
the
data
and
trying
to
come
up
with
with
a
solution
and
for
law
enforcement.
H
You
know,
that's
that's
what
we
do,
but
again
we
always
evaluate
strategy
and
see
what's
best
and
a
lot
of
that
would
be
public
information
advising
the
public
on
on
better
habits.
But
then
again,
if,
if
the
tool
at
the
end
of
the
day,
none
of
that
works
well,
then,
then
we
go
to
enforcement.
E
And
thank
you
very
much
and
one
other
question.
I'd
like
to
ask
you
is:
I
noticed
that
you
were
saying
that
you
had
you're
seizing,
I
think
it's
you've
seized
114
weapons
or
whatever,
but
I'm
just
wondering
how
many
of
those
weapons
are
unregistered
or
whatever,
and
also
I'd
like
to
know
when
you
do
seize
those
weapons.
E
Do
you
actually
research
where
those
weapons
came
from?
Do
you
have
any
idea
as
to
a
the
source
of
where
a
lot
of
those
weapons
are
coming
in
illegally
or
whatever
that
you
could
share
with
us.
H
Okay,
that
that
number
of
114,
all
those
all
of
those
weapons,
were
seized
as
evidence
in
the
commission
of
crime.
So
most
of
those
guns,
a
lot
of
I
don't
have
the
exact
numbers
for
how
many
were
obtained
legally
and
illegally.
Some
were
definitely
possessed
illegally.
H
There's
no
question
and
those
weapons
we
we
do
run
those
through
atf
to
see
if
they
are
connected
to
other
crimes
and
what
we
have
found
is
yes,
many
of
the
weapons
that
we're
seizing
as
evidence
have
been
used
in
other
crimes
and
then
different
investigations
either.
You
know
some
are
revived
by
that
information
that
that
may
have
been
cases
that
have
gone
cold,
but
it
also
leads
us
to
the
connection
of
of
other
crimes.
H
E
And
the
only
reason
I
asked
that
is
because
this
is
something
I
had
heard.
I
don't
know
have
any.
You
know
definite
information
on
it.
That
guns
were
being
dropped
off
in
some
of
the
areas,
some
of
the
housing
areas
and
things
like
that
that
they
would
just
find
bags
of
guns
or
things
you
know
being
dropped
in
the
communities
and
that's
what
I
was
really
concerned
about.
H
And
we
do
get
recoveries
that
way.
Absolutely
excuse
me,
we
do
get
re,
we
do
recover
weapons
that
way
and
every
weapon
that
we
take
in
is
processed
and
run
and
ballistic
tests
performed
on
to
see
if
there
is
a
connection
to
other
crime.
E
No
not
to
other
crimes,
I'm
not
talking
about
crimes,
I'm
actually
talking
about,
maybe
outside
sources
bringing
guns
into
those
communities,
making
them
more
or
less
readily
available.
That's
what
I'm
trying
to
get
at,
because
that
was
one
of
the
concerns
of
one
of
my
clients
that
reached
out
to
me
that
he
was
concerned
about
the
weapons
that
he's
we're
seeing
in
the
community
and
where
they're
coming
from.
So
I'm
just
wondering
about
checking
the
source.
H
Yeah
I'd
have
to
do
a
little
bit
deeper
dive
into
that
to
see
how
how
frequent
we've
recovered
weapons
in
that
manner.
I'd
have
to
do
a
little
bit
deeper
dive
into
that,
but.
F
You
this
is
kim.
Thank
you
for
this
question
sandra.
Can
we
go
back
to
the
slide?
I
think
it's
16
or
17,
where
you
have
the
traffic
stops
for
the
past
five
years.
F
I
wonder
if
there's
a
way
for
us
to
analyze
this
and
look
at
it
with
comparison
to
traffic
accidents,
so
I
know
that
we
rank
very
high
in
accidents
for
pedestrians
and
cyclists
and
all
modes
of
transportation,
but
it
would
help
if
we
would
look
at
this
with
a
population
and
also,
if
there's
an
impact
on
accidents.
I
think
is
it
possible
to
go
back
and
look
at
that
together.
H
I
mean
again
most
of
our
enforcement
action.
Is
data
driven
to
see
where
I
think
the
accidents
that
you're
describing
that
we
are
in
those
areas
where
those
type
of
accidents
are
more
frequent.
So
when
we
start
to
see
that
yeah
we
will
shift
an
enforcement
effort
into
that
particular
area.
But
again
right
now,
you
know
where
it
becomes
a
staffing
issue
and
between
following
the
data
and
then
listening
to
requests
from
the
public
who
are
seeing.
H
You
know
speeding
vehicles
in
their
neighborhood
and
we
get
those
concerns
all
the
time
it
does
become
a
resource
issue
at
some
point.
But
again,
our
approach
is
not
necessarily
just
to
be
out
there
randomly
enforcing.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
our
heaviest
enforcement
in
the
areas
where
we're
seeing
the
most
problems
and
also
hearing
the
most
complaints.
So
we
try
to
do
a
data-driven
approach
on
on
all
of
this.
F
So,
yes,
we
have
comparative
data
between
2016
and
today
so
where
we
have
enforcement
and
where
we
have
accidents
and
how
they
might
fit
in,
and
the
reason
is
because
we
do
have
limited
resources
at
this
time.
I'm
curious
how
our
maybe
benchmark
cities
are
using
automatic
enforcement,
something
like
cameras
at
intersections,
where
we
have
a
high
number
of
traffic
incidents
that
we
might
be
able
to
see.
If
there
are
some
other
resources
that
we
could
use.
G
Yeah
and
I
think
later
on
in
the
presentation,
the
chief
is
going
to
talk
about
moving
more
into
that
arena
related
to
traffic
enforcement.
H
Yeah-
and
there
is
you
know
the
one-
the
one
problem
like
it's
like:
how
far
back
do
you
go
because
we've
also
seen
changes
in
population,
the
layout
of
the
city
and,
of
course
you
know,
traffic
congestion
and
how
that
all
gets
affected.
So
sometimes
you
know
going
back
to
2016.
H
When
we
did,
you
know
an
extensive
amount
of
enforcement,
so
comparative
data
is,
is
tough
because
sometimes
changes
do
occur
that
are
affecting
these
outcomes
and
again,
if
all
of
a
sudden,
a
certain
area
of
town
has
become,
you
know
much
more
developed
than
it
was
five
six
years
ago
and
much
more
residents
have
moved
in
now
that
changes
you
know
the
traffic
flow
and
congestion,
so
it
can
be
done,
but
I
don't
know
always
how
accurate
it'll
be
depending
on
how
far
back
we
go.
F
I
appreciate
that
so
I
do
think
when
we
look
at
population
and
then
the
traffic
incidents
when
folks
when
we
have
like
the
second
highest.
I
know
this
is
recent,
so
I'm
looking
at
back
at
2019,
the
second
highest
bike
and
pedestrian
accident
ratio
in
the
state.
That's
not
good
for
the
people
who
live
here
and
it's
not
good
for
our
visitors.
It's
not
good
for
business!
There's
so
many
factors
to
that
right.
F
But
if
we
looked
at
population
trends
with
our
crash
data
and
then
this
and
I'm
just
curious,
if
which
neighborhoods
to
have
the
most
like
a
heat
map
of
where
the
most
of
these
are
happening,
so
that
we
can
review
the
data
collectively
and
tell
part
of
more
parts
of
the
story
than
just
this
part
and.
H
We
have
and
we
are
putting
that
data
onto
our
transparency
dashboard
and
that
that
is
accessible
now,
but
usually
the
dashboard
just
because
of
the
information
and
the
flow
and
that
it
has
to
be
verified.
Sometimes
some
of
that
information
on
the
transparency
dashboard
is
a
month
or
two
behind,
but
we
are
trying
to
make
that
again.
We
want
people
to
have
as
much
information
as
possible
and
we
are
putting
that
crash
data
into
transparency,
dashboard.
F
And
I
know
that
there
is
a
robust
conversation
happening
citywide
about
a
desire
to
reduce
speed
limits,
because
a
slower
speed
limit
can
reduce
in
less
fatalities
when
accidents
do
happen.
So
that
would
be
another
potential
anomaly
looking
to
the
future,
if
we
were
to
do
something
like
that,
but
obviously
we'd
have
to
have
some
sort
of
enforcement.
So
that's
the
intention
of
asking
that
we
have
some
side-by-side
data
comparison.
So
thank
you
for
that
consideration.
H
Okay,
if
we
could
go
to
14,
please
so
often
times
and-
and
I
know
that
this
city,
council
and
city
manager
receive
these
inquiries,
all
the
time
in
council
is
what
can
our
community
do
to
help?
We
all
know
you
know
apd
is
facing
in
our
cities
are
facing
significant
challenges
at
this
time.
So
again,
we're
asked
all
the
time.
H
What
can
we
do
to
help
and
last
month,
at
public
safety
we
did
provide
a
list
of,
and
I
think
this
got
misconstrued
and
maybe
the
messaging
was
slightly
off
or
just
not
completely
understood.
When
we
said
hey,
there's
gonna
be
a
series
of
calls
that
we're
not
going
to
send
an
officer
to
to
take
a
physical
report.
What
we
were
really
trying
to
do
was
to
promote
our
police
to
citizen
online
reporting
and
not
saying
we're
not
going
to
follow
up
and
investigate
these
calls.
H
But
can
you
help
us
and
just
report
certain
offenses
online
for
later
follow-up,
so
in
some
corners
that
got
perceived
as
oh,
my
god
they're,
not
you
know
they're
they're
not
coming
to
our
home
when
there's
an
emergency
and
of
course
the
the
other
end
of
the
spectrum
was,
you
know,
we're
we're
not
doing
our
jobs
or
so
forth.
It's
not
that
at
all
what
we
really
need
to
do
and
hope
that
our
residents
assist
us
with
is
report
online
as
much
as
possible.
H
H
Crime
prevention.
This
is
everyone's
responsibility,
and
I've
got
some
numbers
that
I'd
like
to
share
on
just
some
crime
prevention
matters
that
we
we
can
address,
just
simply
locking
your
vehicles
and
locking
your
homes.
In
2020,
we
had
845
calls
of
vehicles
being
stolen
just
because
they
were
left,
unlocked,
so
crime
prevention,
again,
everybody's
responsibility,
bikes
being
left
on,
unlocked
bikes
being
left
on
porch,
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
of
cases
where
again
just
people
not
securing
their
belongings
and
keeping
their
valuables
out
of
sight.
H
If
we
all
take
crime
prevention
seriously,
we'll
reduce
crime
in
our
in
our
city,
but
also
reduce
the
burden
on
the
police
department
and
have
the
ability
to
investigate
those
serious
serious
crimes.
H
And
again,
we
we've
promoted
our
anonymous
tip
line
tip
411
extensively,
and
this
this
tool
has
become
just
one
of
our
greatest
assets
in
addressing
particularly
violent
crime.
So
we
continue
to
push
people
to
report
online
and
also,
if
they
want
to
report
crime
anonymously,
to
use
that
tip
four
one
one
tip
line
next,
please
and
again
this.
B
I'm
sorry:
do
you
think
that
these
new
tools
play
a
role
in
being
able
to
clear
some
of
the
violent
crimes
in
response
to
gun
violence
without.
H
Question
without
question,
I
can
tell
you
in
almost
all
of
the
homicides
that
we've
had
in
many
of
the
shootings.
The
number
of
tips
that
we
receive
shortly
thereafter
have
have
been
pivotal
in
in
resolving
some
of
these
crimes
and
bringing
people
to
justice.
It's
a
huge
help.
It
directs
our
investigation
much
quicker
and
has
allowed
us
to
be
much
more
effective.
H
So
the
there's,
no
question
that
the
anonymous
tip
line
has
been
a
huge
asset
to
us
in
solving
violent
crime
without
question,
and
I
think
we
had
a
recent
case
just
recently-
and
this
case
was
in
the
media,
where
we
had
a
man
who
who
had
broken
into
several
west
asheville
homes
in
a
24-hour
period.
I
think
he
broke
into
six
homes
in
one
evening.
H
The
second
we
put
out
the
information
we
put
out
some
of
the
security
footage
that
we
were
able
to
capture
the
next
morning,
tip
411
lit
up
telling
us
exactly
who
that
individual
was
and
an
arrest
was
made,
I
believe,
within
48
hours,
we
were
able
to
locate
that
individual
locate
that
individual
that
came
exclusively
from
our
tip
411
line
that
information.
So
very
very
valuable
tool
for
us
and
our
citizens
are
using
it.
We
just
the
more
they
use
it,
the
more
that
the
tool
is
circulated
and
people
become
aware
of
it.
H
And
again
the
tool's
been
available
since
december
of
2020..
Since
rollout
almost
1100
tips,
crime
tips
have
come
in
and
again
many
have
led
directly
to
our
assistant
and
charges
and
arrests
being
made,
especially
when
it
comes
to
violent
crime,
so
very
successful
tool.
H
Of
course,
we
continue
to
work
with
our
partners
in
the
city
on
how
we
wish
to
reimagine
public
safety.
Here
we
have
been
working
very
closely
with
the
county
and
their
county
community
paramedic
program
to
see
where
we
can
assist,
and
we
know
that
there's
going
to
be
a
big
role
for
law
enforcement
moving
forward
with
the
community
paramedic
program.
So
we
work
very
closely
with
the
county
on
that.
H
We've
had
a
lot
of
conversations
recently
with
with
asheville
city
schools,
discussing
the
roles
and
the
responsibilities
of
our
school
resource
officers,
the
city
and
the
county,
we're
continuing
to
work
towards
a
final
9
11
consolidation,
which
I
think
will
work
very
well
for
all
of
us
in
in
combining
that
effort
and
other
things
that
we're
looking
in
again
because
we
do
have
a
large
amount
of
accidents
in
the
city
is.
H
There
are
some
other
resources
available
as
far
as
crash
reporting,
centers
and
also
civilian
crash
investigators
that
that
were
looking
at
the
possibility
of
that.
So
we
really
are
looking
into
a
lot
of
different
things
as
we
as
we
attempt
to
reimagine
how
we
deliver
public
safety
here
in
the
city.
H
F
F
That's
all
I
have
thank
you.
This
is
kim.
So
can
we
go
back
to
slide
17
sandra?
Did
you
you
had
your
hand
raised?
I
didn't
see
that
I'm
sorry,
okay,
so
I'm
really
glad
to
see
that
we're
having
this
conversation
about
9-1-1
consolidation,
the
community
paramedics,
I
just
toured
the
9-1-1
facilities
and
did
a
four
and
a
half
hour
introduction
right
along
with
the
community
paramedics
when
we
say
that
we
are
continuing
to
work
with
buncombe
county
to
learn
more.
G
And-
and
I
I
would
say
absolutely-
I
was
it's
hard
doing
this
online,
because
I'm
looking
at
the
chair
of
the
committee
vice
mayor
absolutely
would
be
more
than
happy
to
do
that.
F
And
then
I
had
a
question
about
slide:
18.
F
So
remembering
that
we
have
a
history
of
disproportionately
stopping
black
drivers,
do
we
have
data
on
who's
being
stopped
so
that
we
can
review
how
the
outcomes
may
have
changed
or
been
the
same.
H
B
Chief,
I
have
a
question
concerning
the
increase
in
gun
violence
and
how
our
response
to
a
lot
of
the
gun
fire
has
been
has
has
been
successful
through
different
tools
have
have
have
you
heard
of,
of
course,
you've
probably
heard
of
it.
But
do
you
think
we
could
look
into
gunfire
locators
the
type
of
system
that
detects?
Of
course,
you
probably
know,
but
the
type
of
system
that
detects
gunfire
when
it
is
relief
released
when
it
is
discharged.
H
Yep,
I'm
very
familiar
with
that
technology.
I
definitely
think
it
is
technology
which
we
should
consider.
It's
not
inexpensive,
but
yeah
shot
spotter
technology
of
that
nature,
I'm
very
very
familiar
with
it
and
it.
Yes,
it
has
been
proven
to
reduce
gun
violence,
so
I
I
think
we
have
to
consider
all
options
and
certainly
there's
technology
out
there
that
could
be
beneficial
and
and
yeah.
Definitely
it
should
be
explored.
B
B
So
I'm
just
trying
to
think
about
how
effective
it
would
be
in
a
city
of
our
size,
because
our
city
is
a
lot
more
contained
and
smaller,
but
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
other
factors
that
have
to
be
considered
when
in
investigating,
if
this
is
the
best
system
to
respond
to
our
gun
violence,
but
I
do
think
it
is
worth
looking
into
and
I
I
think
it
is
worth
the
dollar,
because
you
know
human
life
is
we're
losing
human
life
at
a
substantial
rate.
B
Yes,
so
just
just
a
thought
on
chief
yep,
no.
H
Like
I
say,
I'm
very
very
familiar
with
that
technology.
I've
been
to
a
number
of
demonstrations
on
it
and
I
know
it's
effective.
B
Yeah,
I
would
love.
I
would
love
more
information
on
that,
and
I
would
I
would
invite
the
the
committee
to
do
our
own
line
of
investigation
and
call
in
different
city
cities
and
city
leaders
to
see
you
know
what
were
some
of
their
decision-making
thoughts
when
either
declining
the
use
of
it
or
or
proving
the
use
of
it.
E
Yes,
yes,
I
think
that
would
be
every
very
interesting
to
actually
check
that
out,
and
one
thing
too
I'd
like
to
say
is
I'd
like
to
go
back
to
the
increase
in
guns
in
the
black
communities,
and
I
was
just
wondering
when
you
actually
we
talk.
We
don't
have
to
go
back
to
the
slide,
but
I
just
want
to
talk
about
the
source
and
one
of
the
reason
I
was
asking.
E
That
is
because,
if
we're
having
an
increase
of
guns
being
brought
to
our
community,
we
need
to
maybe
find
a
way
that
we
can
address
what
is
going
on
and
also
let
the
public
know
what's
going
on
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
because
what
is
happening
if
it's
increasing
it's
going
to
go,
it's
going
to
continue
to
increase
and
once
a
community
realize
that
our
community
is
under
attack
from
outside
forces,
that's
bringing
guns
into
the
community,
so
our
young
men
can
have
accessibility
to
kill
themselves
and
and-
and
I'm
just
saying,
kill
each
other.
E
I
think
that's
something
we
need
to
talk
about.
They
need
to
know
that
their
pawns
and
something
that
they
actually
don't
really
have
a
lot
of
control
over
and-
and
that
was
the
reason
I
was
wondering
about
when
you
speak
with
some
of
the
people
that
you've
confiscated
the
guns
from
where
are
they
saying
they're
coming
from,
because
I
I
know
how
expensive
it
is
to
purchase
a
gun
or
to
even
have
access
to
a
gun
and
also
to
be
able
to
learn
how
to
use
it.
E
H
I
mean
certainly
you
know,
whenever
we
we
make
arrests
and
so
forth.
You
know
there
we
do
try
to
trace
back
the
source
of
how
the
weapon
was
obtained.
Many
times
these
weapons
are
stolen
and
many
times
they're
transferred
from
individual
to
individual.
You
know
burglaries
from
homes,
you
know
things
like
that.
Weapons
are
obtained
and
some
you
know
quite
frankly,
are
purchased
legally.
So
it
really
is
all
over
the
board.
But
again,
that's
part
of
our.
H
Our
our
effort
here
is
to
work
not
only
with
the
buncombe
county
sheriff's
office,
but
with
all
the
surrounding
agencies,
and
also
with
our
district
attorney
and
our
federal
partners
really
trying
to
get
to
the
source
of
where
the
weapons
are
are
being
obtained,
but
I
mean
there's
just
I
mean
just
last
year,
over
20
million
new
registered
owners
and
and
firearms
sold.
So
there's
just
there's
a
lot
of
guns
out
there
and
they're
being
obtained
a
lot
of
different
ways,
and
you
know
I
I
can't
say
one
specific.
E
Yeah
yeah,
I
understand
what's
happening
happening
nationally,
but
asheville
to
me
is
a
very
small,
a
fish
in
that
pond
and
I
think
we
need
to
really
work
on
trying
to
control
the
source
of
it
and-
and
I
think
and
and
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
because
I
think
you
will
see
an
increase
in
the
guns
coming
into
community.
E
H
Are
we
taught
gun
buyback
type
program?
Is
that
what
you're
referring
to
like.
E
B
E
Yes,
yes-
and
I
was
just
wondering,
is
how
effective
is
that
or
how
effective
has
it
been.
H
Traditionally,
not
very
that's
what
that's
what
I
think
yeah
yeah,
what
you
usually
get
is
a
lot
of
inoperable
guns,
but
also
because,
because
of
the
gun
shortage,
where
there
are
certain,
you
know,
gun
buyback
efforts
and
then
those
guns
are
repurposed
back
out
for
sale.
So
it
you
know
those
that
are
operable.
H
Yes,
but
technically
you
know.
Research
shows
that
very
mixed
results
on
gun.
Buybacks
is
not
the
most
effective
method
and,
like
I
said,
usually
the
guns
that
are
turned
in
are
inoperable
or
just
in
extremely
poor
condition.
E
H
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
update
chief.
I
think
that's
all
for
that
part
of
the
agenda.
Next,
we'll
move
to
public
comment.
Do
we
have
any
callers
in
the
speaker
queue.