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From YouTube: Planning & Economic Development – February 20, 2023
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Regular meeting of the Asheville City Council's Planning & Economic Development Committee.
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B
Good
afternoon,
everyone
I'm
Sandra
kilbore,
the
chair
of
the
planning
and
economic
development
committee,
I'd
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
February
20th
2023
remote
meeting,
all
Council
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually
and
to
help
our
audience
follow
along
I'll
State.
Each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud
we're
our
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
Hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
Hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
our
City
website.
B
B
855-925-2801
meeting
code
8187,
your
phone
will
be
muted
and
you
will
hear
the
meeting
live
at
this
point.
Speakers
will
need
to
push
star
3
to
enter
the
speaking
queue
and,
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
do
a
roll
call
and
introduce
the
committee
members
and
staff
who
are
participating
virtually
councilman
staff
as
I
call
your
name.
Please
say
a
quick
hello,
Council
Norman.
B
Can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
from
our
last
meeting.
B
And
at
this
time
we
would
like
to
do
a
turn
it
over
to
Ben
Woody,
who
will
be
doing
a
presentation.
E
Thank
you,
chair,
Kilgore
and
Katie.
If
you
can
go
ahead
and
start
the
presentation,
please
so,
first
of
all,
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
for
being
here
today
and
say
hello
to
our
planning
and
Economic
Development
Council
committee.
This
is
our
first
meeting
with
this
iteration
of
the
council
committee,
chair
Kilgore.
E
This
is
your
your
first
meeting
as
chair
of
this
committee
and
and
councilwoman
Allman
welcome
to
the
planning
and
economic
development
committee,
and
so
what
I'm
going
to
do
real
quickly
is
run
through
a
presentation
and
give
a
scope
overview
of
this
committee.
If
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
Katie
so
key
takeaways
is
the
PED
committee
was
established
by
Council
to
review
policy
updates
and
make
recommendations,
as
it
relates
to
council
goals
of
Thrive
of
a
thriving
local
economy
and
maintaining
a
well-planned
and
livable
Community.
E
We're
going
to
touch
on
the
next
slide,
a
little
more
about
the
composition
of
this
Council
committee
and
then
finally,
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
today
about
the
scope
of
work
or
the
committee
and
begin
a
conversation
about
developing
a
work
plan
for
this
committee
and
beginning
to
advance
plan
for
future
agendas.
Next
slide,
please,
and
if
any
council
members
have
questions,
please
feel
free
to
stop
me.
E
So
the
PED
membership
planning
economic
development
that
consists
of
three
council
members,
council,
member
Kilgore,
Turner
and
Allman
staff
support
for
this
Council
committee
is
myself.
Ben
Woody
is
assistant
city
manager
Katie.
Now
who
is
also
in
the
city
manager's
office
and
our
primary
Department
director.
So
the
these
are
the
Departments
that
will
bring.
E
Probably
the
majority
of
items
or
issues
for
consideration
by
this
Council
committee
is
Ken
Putnam,
with
Transportation
Chris
Coral
with
dcref,
which
is
the
Department
of
community
and
Regional
Entertainment
facilities
that
one's
always
a
mouthful
and
then
Nikki
Reed,
Tom's
CED.
So
the
community
and
economic
development
department
will
have
a
business
before
this
committee
and
currently
I
am
the
interim
planning
and
Urban
Design
director,
but
hope
to
not
be
that
for
for
very
long.
E
We've
got
a
several
planners
on
the
call
today
and
a
lot
of
your
your
agenda
items
will
come
from
the
planning
department.
Typically,
we
meet
at
4
pm
on
the
second
Monday
of
each
month.
We
had
to
reschedule
this
month
so
we're
actually
meeting
on
the
third
Monday,
but
this
typically
we'd
do
this
on
the
second
Monday
next
slide,
please
so
your
scope,
and
again
earlier
this
year,
Council
voted
to
re-uh
reorganize,
their
Council
committee.
E
So
we
have
six
Council
committees
now
and
as
part
of
that
reorganization,
Council,
determined
or
kind
of
defined
the
scope
of
each
Committee
of
each
of
those
six.
So
for
this
particular
committee,
you
are
supporting
the
council,
the
overall
council's
long-range
vision
and
their
comprehensive
planning
goals.
You
are
to
provide
Direction
on
development
policies
and
processes
as
well
as
Transportation
standards
and
ensure
that
we
are
employing
sustainable
development
and
Redevelopment
strategies
when
possible.
Additionally,
your
committee
provides
Economic
Development
strategies
that
enhance
the
health
and
economy
and
improve
the
employability
of
Asheville
residents.
E
And,
finally,
your
committee
ensures
that
all
local
proposals
account
for
and
connect
with
and
support
plans
of
adjacent
jurisdictions
and
the
surrounding
region
next
slide.
Please
so
there's
a
lot
of
policy
topics
for
ped
and
again
these
are
areas
that
I
think
moving
forward,
I'm,
hoping
that
we
can
begin
to
to
build
some
future
agenda.
Work
sessions
or
topics
around
these
policy
areas.
Make
sure
that
our
departments
that
are
engaged
in
these
can
bring
you
information
for
your
consideration.
E
So
again,
that's
part
of
what
we
want
to
lead
into
with
our
work
planning
over
the
next
year,
but
I'm
not
going
to
read
all
these,
but
you
can
see
there
is
a
number
of
topics
that
ped
is
responsible
for
that's
everything
from
land
use
and
and
planning
to
Transportation
topics
to
infrastructure
utilities,
public
spaces,
Arts
culture,
a
heavy,
a
heavy
component
of
regionalism,
also
Economic
Development.
So
there's
a
lot
on
the
table
for
this
committee
next
slide,
please,
and
so
in
terms
of
the
alignment
of
the
PED
committee.
E
Your
primary
priority
alignment
is-
and
these
are-
these
are
alignments
with
the
city
council's
current
strategic
priorities
for
principally
you'll
see,
policy
issues
that
relate
to
Neighborhood
resilience,
improving
and
expanding
core
services
and
Equitable
and
affordable
housing
and
stability,
which
is
one
we're
going
to
talk
about
today.
Is
the
next
agenda
item
other
priorities
that
connect
to
ped
or
reimagining
Public
Safety
houselessness
strategies
and
reparations
next
slide.
Please
so
looking
forward
a
little
bit
as
I
think
we,
as
the
public,
probably
just
realized,
we,
we
approved
minutes
from
October.
E
So
it's
been
some
time
since
this
committee
met,
but
a
couple
of
things
that
we
know
wrong.
Horizon
is
next
month
we'd
like
to
schedule
some
time
to
talk
about
work
plan
development
I
know
that
councilwoman
Turner
is
on
the
hcd
committee.
They've
done
a
fantastic
job
of
developing
a
work
plan,
hoping
that
we
can
have
that
type
of
conversation
here
at
this
committee
and
begin
to
have
some
connectivity
with
our
advisory
boards
and
departments.
E
Also,
a
couple
of
items
that
are
coming
up
related
to
the
pack
Square
visioning
project
that
you're,
probably
aware
of
that
planning
department,
is
taking
the
lead
on
Steph.
Monson
Dahl
is
the
project
leader
for
that
and
then
out
into
the
future
a
little
a
little
further.
We
have
things
that
you're,
probably
aware
of
to
some
extent
but
we'll
be
bringing
the
Duke
Energy
Rank
and
substation
when
that's
ready
to
move
forward.
I
would
like
to
bring
back
college
and
patton
the
downtown
bicycle
lane
project
for
discussion.
E
The
transit
master
plan,
which
is
something
that
is
proposed
to
be
funded
in
the
upcoming
budget,
so
that'll
be
a
big
item
to
discuss
at
this
committee
and
then
I'd
like
to
get
Transportation
here
to
talk
about
their
efforts
with
the
close
the
gap
plan
that
was
recently
adopted
next
slide,
please
so
again
back
to
the
key
takeaways.
Hopefully
that
gave
not
only
the
committee
but
the
the
community.
E
That's
watching
a
better
understanding
of
what
the
PED
committee
reviews
the
types
of
policy
they
consider,
hopefully
everybody's
familiar
with
the
meeting
schedule
and
again
just
the
commitment
of
working
with
staff
and
the
council
committee
together
to
really
hone
in
on
our
work
plan
and
the
topics
we
want
to
discuss
or
you
want
to
discuss
as
a
body.
So
that
concludes
my
presentation.
I
can
answer
any
questions.
B
Okay
I'd
like
to
thank
you
very
much
ben
for
presenting
that,
and
also
for
the
Insight
that
you've
given
us
and
I'm,
looking
forward
to
Sage
assisting
Us
in
working
on
the
work
plan.
So
we
can
get
it
up
and
running.
B
Okay,
now
we'd
like
to
actually
have
a
presentation
on
the
middle
Missing,
middle
housing
and
that'll
be
done
by
Adelia
Sebastian.
D
Hi,
council
members
good
afternoon,
I'm
vadilla
sadika,
with
planning
and
Urban
Design
before
I,
get
going
I'd
like
to
introduce
Kendra
to
Shoma
she's,
a
new
staff
person
who
just
started
with
us
a
little
while
ago
and
she's
working
in
long-range
planning
with
me
and
with
us
and
we'll
be
a
key
part
of
this
project.
So
I
just
wanted
you
to
meet
her
and
and
if
you
can
Kendra
to
introduce
yourself
and
just
say
a
couple
words
about
where
you're
coming
from.
F
Sure,
thank
you
vadilla
good
afternoon,
council
members.
As
vadilla
stated,
my
name
is
Kendra
tashoma
and
I
am
a
new
long-range
planner
here
with
the
city
of
Asheville,
I
did
last
serve
as
a
senior
planner
with
the
city
of
Savannah,
so
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
all
and
with
that
I'll
hand
it
back
over
to
Padilla.
Thank
you.
D
Great
thanks,
kandra
and
kandra's
been
super
helpful
insightful
already,
so
we're
going
to
have
a
great
team,
so
we
are
bringing
to
you
a
discussion
about
a
contract
for
the
missing
middle
housing
study.
That
is
that
is
scheduled
to
go
to
the
city
council
on
the
28th
of
this
month.
But
we
wanted
to
come
to
you
first
just
to
talk
a
little
bit
about.
D
What's
coming,
so
you
know
what's
what's
ahead
and
you
could
let
us
know
if
you
have
any
suggestions
or
guidance
just
to
remind
you
and
anybody
who
might
be
watching
this,
who
isn't
familiar
with
missing
middle?
The
idea
is
encapsulated
here
in
the
image,
but
it's
really
that
over
the
last
70
years,
or
so,
we
haven't
been
seeing
a
lot
of
housing
types
that
you
see
in
the
middle
we've
been
getting
a
lot
of
the
extremes
on
one
side:
a
lot
of
detached
single-family
homes
and
in
larger
apartment
Redevelopment
projects.
D
But
we
haven't
been
seeing
a
lot
of
the
more
traditional
type
of
infill
that
are
smaller
scale,
Apartment
Homes,
duplexes,
triplexes,
quads,
Bungalow
courts.
Things
like
this
that
really
fit
into
neighborhoods,
and
so
we're
doing
this
study
to
help
us
think
about
housing
barriers
in
particular,
possible
housing
types
that
might
fit
in
really
well
into
Asheville's
residential
areas.
So
if
we
can
go
to
the
first
slide,
please
we'll
start
with
some
some
takeaways.
D
First,
our
city
goals
seek
to
encourage
responsible
growth
and
increase
and
diversify
the
housing
Supply.
These
are
key
to
this
project.
D
It's
important
to
know
that
most
of
the
residential
property
in
Asheville
excludes
missing
middle
housing,
which,
which
puts
puts
downward
pressure
on
the
production
of
housing,
limiting
housing
options
and
I'll
go
through
some
images
to
show
you
that
we
want
to
remind
you
that
the
council
has
provided
85
000
to
the
planning
department
for
this
study
and
some
what
might
be
some
new
information
is
that
we
have
received
thirty
thousand
dollars
from
Community
Economic
Development
to
increase
our
budget
so
that
we
can
conduct
a
displacement
risk
assessment
to
help
us
understand
the
possible
negative
impacts
that
that
might
occur
if
we
Implement
sort
of
a
liberalization
of
zoning,
and
and
so
that
that
that
part
of
the
study
is
really
important,
and
we're
really
excited
that
we
could
get
that
money
to
do
that.
D
So,
as
I
mentioned,
these
two
goals
align
with
the
study
to
encourage
responsible
growth
and
increase
housing,
Supply
I
want
to
call
out
that
that
we've
done
previous
work
that
has
sought
to
reduce
barriers
to
infill.
Here
at
the
bottom,
you
can
see
in
2015
we
revised
our
accessory
dwelling
unit
code
to
allow
for
more
adus
in
the
city
and
then
in
2016
and
17.
D
We
did
some
changes
to
our
residential
zoning
districts
that
we
called
small-scale
infill
development
and
it
basically
reduced
minimum
lot
sizes
by
20
and
minimum
lot
frontages
by
20
percent
and
I
primarily
oversaw
both
of
those.
So
if
you
have
any
questions,
I
I
can
answer
those
really
easily
next
slide,
please.
D
So
this
is
a
an
image
that
shows
really
well
what
we
have
for
residential
property
in
Asheville.
You
see
two
different,
colors,
yellow
and
orange.
The
yellow
signifies
the
zoning
districts
that
only
permit
single-family
housing
and
the
Orange
is.
These
are
include
all
the
zoning
districts
that
allow
for
single
family
and
multi-family
housing,
and
so
it's
important
to
to
know,
as
you
can
see
here,
that
really
two-thirds
of
our
residential
zoning
districts
only
permit
single-family
housing.
D
So
it's
quite
restrictive,
and
that
may
be
something
that
this
study
looks
at
and
provides
us
more
information
for
thinking
about
how
to
potentially
look
at
the
regulations
and
and
possibly
make
adjustments
next
slide.
D
So
this
is
called
the
missing
middle
housing
study
for
the
reasons
that
I've
mentioned
the
broad
description
of
work.
I'll
just
read
this:
the
study
proposes
to
identify
Regulatory
and
policy
barriers
aiming
to
improve
Housing,
Opportunity
diversity
and
choice,
and
to
provide
a
strategy
to
prioritize
options
to
remove
those
barriers.
The
project
will
include
a
displacement
risk
assessment
to
analyze
displacement,
vulnerability
for
anti-displacement
strategies
focused
on
minimizing
possible
harm
of
pro-housing
policies,
and
the
schedule
is
basically
to.
D
Yes,
I
think
I
think
so.
I
think
the
in
the
contract
they're
actually
proposing
that
it's
only
going
to
take
six
to
nine
months,
but
we're
thinking
in
order
to
allow
sufficient
time
to
have
public
engagement,
and
you
know
things
always
go
slower
than
than
we
expect
to
give
ourselves
a
little
cushion.
So
that
would
be
the
end
of
the
study
and
then
we
would
come
to
you
and
talk
about
possible
regulatory
changes
all
right.
Thank
you.
Next
slide.
D
This
image
shows
some
different
typologies
of
what
is
the
missing
middle
formula
if
you,
if
you
want
to
think
about
it
different
types
of
homes
that
might
fit
into
the
missing
middle,
this
is
I,
think
important
to
show,
because
we're
not
talking
about
large
large
buildings
that
that
sometimes
people
associate
with
added
housing
into
neighborhoods
it
it.
These
types
of
structures
would
add
more
people,
but
but
it's
a
scale
and
a
size
that
fits
with
traditional
neighborhoods.
D
In
fact,
most
of
the
oldest
neighborhoods
in
Asheville
Montford,
even
parts
of
West
Asheville,
have
buildings
like
this
that
are
relatively
low
in
scale,
not
higher,
primarily
than
about
three
stories
and
they
fit
in
with
the
the
landscape.
There's
plenty
of
room
for
trees,
at
least
when
they're
done
well,
there's
plenty
of
projects
that
don't
look
as
as
lovely
as
these
two.
But
this
is
the
goal,
and
this
is
what
we're
hoping
to
identify
and
and
to
provide
more
flexibility
for
through
the
study
next
slide.
D
They
are
called
opticost,
Design
Incorporated
from
the
Bay
Area
they
have
sub-consultants
named
Cascadia
Partners
from
Portland
Oregon
Cascadia
would
be
doing
a
feasibility
analysis
and
the
displacement
risk
analysis
and
it's
a
small
team
that
coined
the
term
missing
middle
housing,
and
this
is
really
their
niche.
So
they're,
very
good
at
this
and
they've
they've
done
these
types
of
studies
in
other
cities
all
throughout
the
us,
including
in
North,
Carolina
next
slide
and
here's
a
list
of
work,
work
tasks.
D
If
you
want
to
talk
about
any
of
them,
but
reviewing
the
existing
housing
conditions,
analysis
and
comparison
of
possible
housing,
typologies,
reviewing
and
now
analyzing
and
making
recommendations
to
zoning,
considering
the
possibility
of
of
mobility
and
parking,
which
is
an
integral
part
of
housing
right,
providing
parking
parking
is
takes
up
a
lot
of
room,
and
so
we're
going
to
look
at
that
consideration
of
the
extent
of
utilities
and
in
some
cases
where
there
aren't
utilities
the
appropriateness
of
housing,
design,
recommendations
to
remind
you,
we
can
only
provide
housing,
design
recommendations
when
it's
three
units
or
more.
D
We
can't
constrict
the
single
family
housing
by
State,
Legislature,
consideration
of
manufactured
housing,
appropriateness,
consideration
of
topography,
public
engagement,
looking
at
the
potential
impacts
that
recommendations
may
have
on
existing
neighborhoods
and
I
have
here
at
at
the
end
in
bold,
the
displacement
risk
analysis
to
really
look
at
possible
impacts
that
may
results
of
gentrification
and
displacement
and
how
to
lower
or
minimize
any
of
those
impacts,
especially
to
lower
income
marginalized
historically
black
communities.
D
So
that's
the
overarching
thinking
next
slide.
I
think
we
might
be
getting
near
the
end
here
yeah.
So
this
is
just
a
summary
of
what
we
mentioned
in
the
beginning.
The
key
takeaway
is
again
to
remember
that
this
is
aligning
with
our
goals,
that
most
of
residential
property
in
Asheville
is
single
family
zoned
today,
and
that
this
budget
comes
from
from
your
guidance
to
our
department
and
from
community
and
economic
development
totaling
a
hundred
and
fifteen
thousand
dollars
and
I
think
that's
the
last
slide.
D
If
you
want
to
turn
it
to
the
next
one,
just
we'll
leave
it
there
for
any
questions
you
may
have.
Thank
you.
B
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
Dylan
I
want
to
ask
you
a
question.
I
noticed
that
you
said
you're
implemented
I
think
it
was
on
slide
going
to
2015-17
the
infield
and
I
was
just
wondering:
do
you
have
an
idea
as
to
which
communities
actually
took
advantage
of
that
particular
Zone
League
I
think
it
was
more
or
less
sort
of
catered
to
a
certain
areas
that
sort
of
took
advantage
where
other
areas
really
didn't
bother.
So
how
does
that
I
was
just
wondering?
What
does
that.
D
Look
yeah,
so
when
we
made
those
changes,
we
actually
made
them
across
all
residential
districts,
so
whether
you
were
in
what
tends
to
be
a
higher
density,
District
are
are
what
what
used
to
be
our
smallest.
Our
densest
districts
had
a
minimum
5
000
square
foot
area
and
a
minimum
50-foot
Frontage.
Those
frontages
were
decreased
from
50
feet
to
40
feet
and
the
minimum
lot
went
from
5000
square
feet
to
4
000
square
feet,
but
we
have
large
Lots
as
well
and
rs2.
D
They
went
the
lot
size
went
from
20
000
square
feet
to
sixteen
thousand
square
feet
and
the
minimum
Frontage
went
from
100
feet
to
80
feet.
So
across
the
board,
all
zoning
districts
were
allowed
to
become
a
little
bit
smaller
and
I
think
it
happened
throughout
the
city.
People
took
advantage
of
it.
Okay,.
C
I
just
want
to
share
how
excited
I
am
to
finally
be
studying
this,
even
if
it
does
take
a
whole
year.
You
know
I
think
so
much
so
many
of
our
problems,
if
not
every
problem
or
issue
we
face
in
this
community,
can
be
tied
to
housing
and
I.
Think
we're
still
in
the
middle
of
a
housing
crisis.
C
Here
at
least
an
affordability
crisis
and
I
want
to
intentionally
connect
missing
middle
housing
to
the
affordability
crisis,
because
it's
I
just
think
it's
something
that
this
community
has
long
wanted,
and
often
when
we're
reviewing
some
of
the
bigger
projects,
we're
hearing
people
say
what
they
prefer
to
see
as
more
missing
metal.
You
know
why
does
it
have
to
be
so
big?
Why
does
it
have
to
have
huge
parking
lots?
Why
does
it
have
to
be
so
out
of
scale
with
the
house
next
door?
C
And
this
is
such
a
critical
piece
and
I'm
shocked
to
hear
that
two-thirds
of
the
community
is
Zone
single
family?
So
we
have
cities
around
the
nation
that
are
starting
to
just
do
away
with
all
single
family
in
general
and
I
know
just
from
campaigning
and
stuff
I,
never
really
gotten
the
feeling
that
this
community
was
ready
for
that
big
step,
but
I
hope
that
we
can
focus
some
intention
along
like
corridors
and
existing
Transportation
lines.
C
And
you
know
opticos
is
a
wonderful
firm,
so
I'm
sure
they're
already
coming
at
it
from
that
angle,
but
I'm
just
really
excited
and
I
wanted
to
intentionally
draw
it.
You
know
the
tie
to
affordability
right
out
of
the
gate
and
I'm
glad
you're
going
to
be
overseeing
the
deal
because
you've
handled
a
lot
of
these
things
in
succession,
even
like
the
open
space
impacted
some
of
this
right
and
even
what
we
tried
to
do
with
Urban
centers.
As
part
of
this
conversation,
so
thrilled.
A
I
want
to
jump
into
with
similar
enthusiasm
to
Sage
I.
Think
that
or
councilwoman
Turner
I
think
that
yeah
just
to
Echo.
A
lot
of
that
sentiment
is,
we
can't
have
one
size,
fit
all
solutions
to
our
housing
crisis
and
we
know
that
this
is
a
missing
piece
of
our
community
I.
A
Think
there's
I
think
it's
also
really
wise
that
before
we
go
in
and
propose
any
real
technical
changes,
we
bring
in
experts
to
study
it
in
a
technical
way,
because
I
think
the
market
will
tell
us
if
it's
going
to
work
right.
If,
if
the
development
Community
isn't
going
to
value
a
tool
or
an
approach
or
a
zoning
shift
or
zoning
change,
it's
just
not
going
to
take
it's
not
going
to
catch,
and
so
really
having
that
thoughtful
analysis.
Now
is
really
valuable
and
I
have
two
questions,
and
you
know.
A
Maybe
the
project
needs
to
get
started
before
you'll
know
more
answers,
but
the
the
first
one
is
around
kind
of
the
community
engagement
along
this
process.
I
think
that
how
our
community
grows
where,
when
why
our
really
complex
conversations
that
a
lot
of
our
community
has
really
strong
feelings
on
and
strong
thoughts
on
and
has
had
experiences
with
so
curious
in
the
engagement
and
I
know
that
there'll
be
a
steering
committee.
A
You
know
I
and
then
I
also
see
that
before
coming
to
talk
to
us
today
that
you
talk
to
the
urban
forestry
commission,
I'm
curious,
if,
like
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee,
is
involved
or
any
of
that
I
also
hearken
back
to
as
councilman
Turner
mentioned,
we
just
went
through
conversations
around
open
space
and
there
was
a
lot
of
really
Dynamic
thorough,
Community
engagement
on
that
and
I
expect
that
you
know
to
have
what
comes
out
of
this
study
be
something
we
can
really
work
with.
A
A
The
other
thing
I
did
want
to
ask,
is
kind
of
for
my
learning.
What
type
of
outcomes
is
it
reasonable
for
the
community
to
expect
from
this
study,
I
think
in
planning,
sometimes
the
community?
It's
just
helpful
for
us
to
be
able
to
share
kind
of
what
to
expect.
You
know
the
county
is
doing
a
comp
plan
right
now,
for
example,
and
I've
talked
with
several
people
who
are
like
what
even
is
that
that's
a
bunch
of
Flowery
words
and
my
plan
herself
is
like
oh
no.
No.
A
This
is
really
important
to
set
our
Direction,
but
when
we're
done
with
this,
are
we
going
to
have
technical,
Udo,
update
recommendations,
specific
maps
and
overlay
possible
suggestions
or
are
we,
which
is
nice
right,
that's
kind
of
where
we
can
be
actionable,
but
sometimes
we
need
to
do
more
more
work
before
we
can
get
there.
So
if,
if
that
isn't
where
we
are,
that's
okay,
although
I
would
love
us
to
get
there
as
quickly
as
we
can.
D
Sure,
thanks
for
that
council
member
ohman,
yes,
so
the
deliverable
will
be
a
report
that
will
provide
us
with
the
base
conditions
of
Asheville,
a
lot
of
analysis
that
that
looks
at
how
this
type
of
review
Works
in
other
places.
What
are
our
existing
barriers
and
then
a
specific
list
of
recommendations
for
for
changes,
hopefully
most
of
those
well.
D
Most
of
those
should
be
related
to
things
that
we
can
control
like
zoning
Others
May,
maybe
outside
of
our
control
but
recommendations,
for
example,
maybe
there's
a
building
code
that
is
problematic
right,
so
that
I
think
the
more
information
that
we
have.
Regardless
of
whether
we
control
it
is
important
so
that
other
people
state
legislators
can
know
and-
and
the
word
can
continue
to
spread.
D
But
we
will
get
a
document
that
recommend
that
recommends
changes
that
we
can
make
that
then
we
as
a
community
can
take
and
have
Community
conversations
to
determine
what
we
believe
is
appropriate,
where
we
think
it's
appropriate
and
you
know,
then
we
can
go
through
that
conversation
to
make
the
actual
regulatory
changes
that
our
department
can
can
make.
So
this
isn't
going
to
to
be
clear
to
the
public.
This
isn't
going
to
change
anything,
but
this
will
give
us
a
lot
more
information
so
that
we
can
more
comprehensively
be
able
to
make
changes.
D
You
know
these
changes
that
we
made
for
adus
and
and
small
scale
infill.
There
were
kind
of
little
one-offs
that
we
happen
to
focus
on
that.
Maybe
some
people
drew
our
attention
to,
but
this
will
be
a
more
thorough
review
of
the
city
and
more
broad
broad
problems
or
broad
broad
issues
that
that
it'll
help
us
to
focus
on.
C
C
You
know
that
it's
crucial
for
us
to
hear
from
the
affordable
housing
committee
by
June
or
something
and
then
you
know
we're
creating
like
an
action
that
can
then
go
to
a
committee
and
come
back
to
us
with
input
which
is
a
new
way
of
doing
things
and
that's
how
we're
experimenting
with
hcd
and
affordable
housing
and
Hayak
et
cetera.
It's
been
going
really
well,
so
I
think
there
will
be
ample
opportunity
for
that,
but
also
we
want
to
remember
that
structure
as
a
potential.
B
And
also
I'd
like
to
say
basically
what
this
report
I
actually
think
that
this
will
give
people
the
information
that
they
need
and
I
think
people
may
be
a
more
amenable
to
actual
some
of
these
changes
that
they
understand
what
exactly
we're
doing,
just
like
Meg
said
and
I'm,
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
it
that
I
think
that's.
Basically,
if
we'd
had
this
a
while
back,
then
we
could
have
had
more
changes.
I
was
looking
at
the
living
actual
plan
where
it
actually
said
something
about.
B
They
basically
wanted
to
see
two
or
three
annual
changes
in
improving
and
act.
As
far
as
the
zoning,
and
so
I
would
like
to
ask
you
a
badilda
Padilla,
since
the
living
actual
plan
has
been
implemented,
how
many
actual
Sony
updates
have
we
had.
D
D
You
know
many
issues
that
I
don't
specifically
focus
on
in
the
Udo
I'm.
Just
Janice
might
might
be
better
to
answer
this
question
than
I
am,
but
we've
we've
done
lots
of
amendments
specifically
to
housing,
not
that
many.
G
That's
a
good
question:
you
know,
I,
don't
know
if
we've
kept
a
list,
I
can
I
can
Echo
vanilla,
I
know
it's
been
many
and
big
ones.
Well,
you
know.
Councilwoman
Turner
mentioned
the
urban
centers.
That
was
the
biggest
change
that
we
have
ever
done
and
you
know
we're
still.
G
It
got
implemented,
but
we're
still
in
litigation
over
whether
you
know
whether
we
can
sustain
that
but
I,
but
no,
these
other
ones
that
the
vadilla
mentioned-
and
this
has
come
up
before
too,
but
those
changes
in
accessory
dwelling
units
and
the
infill
development
we
might
even
have
to
get
better
at
the
metrics,
because
I
I
know
I
I've
always
wanted
to
know
how
how
many
infill
units
were
constructed,
how
many
Luts
were
reconfigured
or
maybe
sold
and
I,
and
we
might
not
be
tracking
it
because
they're
not
the
same
size,
developments
that
get
review
you
know
so
Council.
G
C
C
C
So
vice
mayor
is
now
our
new
chair,
I,
don't
know
the
proper
Avenue
for
requesting
agenda
items
if
I
should
just
call
you
offline,
but
I
want
to
drop
something
in
our
attention
that
maybe
we
can
pick
up
and
learn
more
about,
if
possible,
in
the
future
and
I
emailed
councilman
about
this
earlier
I'm
just
becoming
more
and
more
concerned
about
our
downtown
and
when
I
think
of
planning
and
particularly
Economic
Development
I,
think
of
downtown
and
we're
just
we're.
C
I
won't
even
go
into
all
of
my
concerns,
but
I'm
wondering
if
this
committee
might
like
to
brainstorm
a
little
bit
or
talk
about
the
economic
development
or
the
importance
of
downtown
as
we
frame
and
prepare
for
a
retreat
which
I
intend
to
bring
up
during
that
Retreat.
So
just
putting
it
out
there
and
chair.
B
You're,
absolutely
right
sage
and
I'm,
so
happy
you
brought
that
up
and
when
I
read
your
email,
it
was
like
that
was
you
know?
How
did
we
miss
that?
Because
that's
one
of
the
most
important
you
know
issues
right
here:
it
that's
affecting
Asheville
at
a
center.
You
know
it's
Center
and
it's
in
the
center
of
all
this.
So
we
definitely
need
to
do
this.
A
E
E
E
You
sure,
and
we
can
go
ahead-
it
sounds
like
there's
consensus,
so
Katie
and
I
can
go
ahead
and
add
downtown
is
is
a
future
topic
for
this
committee.
We
can
refine
that
a
little
more
about
what
that
entails
and,
of
course,
we've
got
a
lot
of
the
planning
department
here
and
I'm
sure
there'll
be
a
integral
part
of
that
discussion.