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A
Okay,
we're
now
live
okay
good
afternoon
everyone.
My
name
is
esther
manheimer,
I'm
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
asheville
and
I'm
chair
of
the
governance
committee
and
I'd
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
april
12
meeting.
All
council,
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually
to
help
our
audience
follow
along
I'll
state.
Each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud
we're
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city's
website.
A
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I'll
now:
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through
and
introduce
the
committee
members
and
staff
who
are
participating
virtually
council
and
staff.
As
I
call
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name,
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say:
quick,
hello,
councilwoman,
kim
rooney,
hello,
councilwoman,
gwen
wessler
good
afternoon.
A
A
So
first
I'll
begin
the
agenda
with
item
number
one,
which
is
the
approval
of
the
minutes.
Can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
from
february
8
2022.?
So,
second,
all
right.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
I'll
now
call
a
roll
call
the
to
approve
the
motion.
And
second,
when
I
say
your
name,
please
say
I
to
approve
the
minutes:
councilwoman
roney,
aye,
councilwoman,
whistler,
hi,
myself,
aye,
okay
minutes
have
been
approved.
A
Next
on
our
agenda
is
the
legislative
agenda.
This
is
really
the
only
item
of
substance
on
our
agenda
and
I'm
going
to
brad.
Do
you
want
me
to
begin
with
you
and
have
you
kind
of
give
a
little
bit
of
an
overview.
B
I
think
that'll
be
fine
mayor
all
right
good
afternoon.
Everyone,
as
the
mayor
said,
my
name
is
brad
brandon
I
serve
as
the
city
attorney
for
the
city
of
asheville
and
today
I'm
going
to
be
providing
the
governance
committee
with
a
short
presentation
that
is
dealing
with
a
proposed
legislative
agenda
for
the
upcoming
short
session
of
the
north
carolina
legislature.
B
The
legislative
agenda
is
something
that
we
have
done
periodically
as
a
city
in
the
past
and
it's
our
chance
to
communicate
some
of
the
city's
legislative
goals
at
the
state
level
to
our
local
delegation.
At
the
beginning
of
each
session
of
that
body,
the
20
2022
legislative
short
session
of
the
general
assembly
is
going
to
commence
on
the
18th
of
may
of
this
year.
B
If
recommended
we'll
move
on
to
council
at
the
next
council
meeting,
the
second
one
in
april
and
then
we'll
be
able
to
forward
whatever
is
approved
on
to
our
legislative
delegation,
so
today
I
will
be
going
over
each
of
the
proposed
agenda
items
and,
at
the
close
of
that
I'll,
be
asking
this
committee
to
recommend
through
a
motion
that
the
2022
city,
council,
short
session
legislative
agenda,
be
approved
and
advanced
to
the
full
city
council.
B
B
The
buncombe
county
occupancy
tax
is
currently
a
six
percent
tax
on
room
rentals
from
these
funds.
The
local
tda
is
required
to
spend
currently
under
state
law,
three
quarters
of
the
total
revenue
on
the
promotion
of
travel
and
tourism
through
marketing,
with
the
remaining
being
spent
on
capital
expenditures
for
major
tourism
projects
which
increase
the
use
of
tourism
facilities.
B
That's
the
way
the
law
currently
reads
today.
Our
request
would
be
to
support
legislation
to
amend
the
structure
of
our
local
occupancy
tax
laws,
specifically
in
order
to
direct
a
more
equitable
distribution
of
the
funds
that
are
collected
to
expend
the
expand,
the
allowable
uses
of
the
funds
to
benefit
our
community
and
to
increase
the
spectrum
of
qualified
tda
board
membership.
B
The
second
item
on
our
legislative
agenda
would
be
a
request
to
oppose
any
legislation
that
would
limit
reasonable
regulation
at
the
local
municipal
level
of
short-term
vacation
rentals.
This
authority,
exercised
at
the
city
level,
is
absolutely
critical
for
asheville
and
other
cities
and
towns
with
similarly
high
demand
for
tourism
accommodations.
B
B
Item.
Number
four
on
your
legislative
agenda
is
a
request
to
support
new
legislation
and
state
funding
which
would
encourage
the
development
of
affordable
housing
rents
throughout
the
country,
as
well
as
mortgage
prices
are
continuing
to
surge.
This
is
especially
true
in
north
carolina
and
some
of
the
largest
cities
here
in
asheville
rents
have
risen
over
25
percent
in
the
past
year,
the
largest
increase
in
the
state.
B
We
believe
that
by
dedicating
some
of
the
remaining
funds
that
were
provided
to
the
state
for
the
american
rescue
plan
act
would
go
a
long
way
amongst
other
potential
funding
sources
to
represent
an
excellent
opportunity
to
stem
this
growing
problem
across
the
state
and
incentivize
the
kind
of
affordable
housing
that
would
actually
impact
the
problem
throughout
the
state.
Yes,
councilwoman
whistler.
C
C
Item
that
particular
item
I
mean-
I
think
we
added
it.
It
was
added
more
recently,
but
the
the
documents
on
the
city's
website
doesn't
include
this
particular
one.
A
Well,
and-
and
I
think
that's
because
it
came
in
outside
of
what
brad's
team
had
put
together,
so
it
was
really
more
for
the
governance
committee
to
decide
if
we
wanted
to
include
it.
This
will
have
to
go
the
full
council.
So
if
we're
going
to
include
it,
then
it
will
then
those
documents
will
be
there.
B
A
B
Is
correct?
The
original
proposal
that
was
put
out
had
five
items.
This
last
item
was
added.
Just
over
the
weekend.
We
had
to
do
a
little
bit
of
research
on
the
state
arpa
allocation
in
order
to
best
word.
Our
proposal,
this,
if
approved
by
this
particular
committee,
will
be
added
to
the
online
materials
and
included
in
the
proposal
holistically
that
will
go
before
the
full
council
later
in
april.
B
Well,
we
provide
notice
of
all
of
the
items
that
are
going
to
be
on
the
council
agenda
or
any
committee
agendas
in
advance
as
much
advance
as
possible.
The
legislative
agenda
minus
this
item
was
placed
on
the
public
domain
well
in
advance
of
the
committee
meeting.
This
final
item,
however,
came
as
a
result
of
some
conversations
with
individual
council
members
who
wanted
this
item
to
be
considered
by
this
particular
committee.
So
we
brought
it
to
you
in
order
to
ensure
that
we
got
the
input
from
the
governance
committee
before
bringing
it
to
full
council.
B
D
A
So
and
I
will
say
process-wise,
I
mean
brad
kind
of
threw
this
open
to
council
members
and
said:
send
me
your
suggestions,
you
know,
that's
not
how
we've
done
it
in
the
past.
In
the
past
we
have
put
together
kind
of
a
list.
It's
brought
to
committee
at
that
time.
If
any
of
the
committee
members
wants
to
add
something
I
mean
to
that's
my
recollection,
then
we
add
subtract
whatever
and
then
it
goes
to
counsel
and
the
same
thing
happens.
Other
council
members
can
add
subtract
whatever
so
it.
A
This
was
a
little
bit
different
in
terms
of
the
process
and-
and
I
don't
particularly
like
that
process
just
for
the
record,
because
we
do
need
consensus
to
add
items
to
our
legislative
agenda.
It
can't
just
be
like
you
know,
brad's,
taking
an
order.
You
know
for
for
everybody's
a
wish
list
so
that
that
is
a
little
bit.
That
is
a
little
bit
tricky
and
he
he
was.
You
were
brad.
You
were
working
from
previous
previously
adopted
legislative
agendas
because
there's
a
lot
of
carryover.
B
Yes,
thank
you
mayor,
that's
correct.
Many
of
these
items
were
also
included
on
the
previous
legislative
agenda
that
the
council
approved
prior
to
the
long
session
of
the
general
assembly.
Last
year
and
again,
we
thought
we
had
some
consensus
around
five
items.
This
came
about
a
little
late,
so
it
was
not
published
yet,
but
again,
this
is
not
a
point
of
final
adoption.
This
is
a
review
in
this
particular
committee
prior
to
a
complete
product
being
presented
to
the
council
later
on
in
april,
all
of
which
will
be
included
in
everything
published
online.
B
So
hopefully
this
this
doesn't
present
too
much
of
a
surprise
to
anyone
out
there.
This
is
something
that
was
brought
forth
by
several
council
members
as
a
request
for
addition,
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
this
committee
had
a
chance
to
weigh
in.
A
And
here
what
we're
talking
about
is
a
request
of
the
legislature
to
ask
for
flexibility
of
the
remaining
state-held
coveted
relief
funds.
These
are
funds
that
haven't
been
allocated
by
the
state
yet
to
local
governments
could
potentially
be
allocated
and-
and
the
request
is
to
allow
us
to
use
them
for
affordable
housing.
I
mean
I
I
would
also
maybe
we
need
to
request
that
they
allocate
them
in
the
first
place,
because
I'm
not
sure
I'm
not
sure
that
that
that
they're
going
to
allocate
them
to
local
governments.
A
So
I
don't
know
what
the
intention
is
there
with
those
funds,
so
hopefully
they
would
allocate
it
and
give
us
some
flexibility
around
around
how
to
spend
it.
B
All
right,
thank
you,
mayor
with
the
final
two
items.
I'll
continue
with
one
that
was
again
previously
on
a
legislative
agenda
approved
by
the
council
during
the
legislative
long
session,
and
this
is
a
request
for
authority
to
conduct
a
referendum
for
a
one-quarter
cent
sales
tax
specifically
dedicated
to
transit.
B
B
This
type
of
legislation,
if
accepted,
would
allow
the
city
to
proceed
unilaterally
with
a
referendum,
to
provide
such
desperately
needed
funding
for
our
transit
system
and
again
this
was
something
that
was
on
a
previous
legislative
agenda,
as
is
the
case
with
several
of
these
items.
B
Currently,
the
state
of
emergency
is
ongoing.
That
was
issued
by
the
north
carolina
governor,
however
city,
the
city
of
asheville,
as
well
as
other
municipalities
across
the
state,
believe
that
this
authority
should
be
provided
permanently
as
a
valuable
tool
to
local
municipalities
and
other
local
governments
to
be
used
at
their
discretion
when
it
is
deemed
needed.
So
we
would
ask
for
that
authority
to
be
made
permanent.
B
C
Thanks
brad
question
on
the
one
for
the
support
for
state
and
local
reparations
efforts.
Are
there
other
cities
who
have
looked
state
cities
who
north
carolina
cities
that
we'll
be
partnering
with
on
this?
Or
is
this
just
our
our
initiative?.
B
So
the
city
of
asheville,
certainly
to
a
degree
in
north
carolina
out
in
front
on
the
reparations
initiative.
However,
we
are
not
completely
alone
since
that
time
there
have
been
resolutions
passed
by
local
governments
in
a
similar
vein,
although
perhaps
not
referencing
reparations
specifically,
but
I
would
suggest
that
the
county
of
mecklenburg,
the
city
of
of
high
point,
I
believe,
have
both
gone
forward
with
similar
reparations
and
exploring
some
of
the
same
commission
opportunities
that
the
city
of
asheville
is
so.
B
D
B
D
Okay
and
then
the
second
thing
that
I
hope
to
address
is
right
now,
our
language
around
the
reform,
the
local
occupancy
tax
utilization.
D
So
much
of
it
is
right
on
point
having
more
representation
having
more
flexibility
and
how
we
spend
those
funds.
D
The
part
that
is
sticking
point
for
me
is
that
we
talk
about
an
equitable
distribution
of
funds,
and
I
know
that
there
is
support
for
a
move
to
a
one-third,
two-thirds
split,
but
also
acknowledging
that
the
projections
for
revenue
for
our
tda
is
approaching
beyond
40
million,
which
is
a
significant
difference
from
where
it
has
been
in
the
past.
When
we
talk
about
equity,
I
think
we'd
have
to
talk
about
the
disparity
that
has
existed
and
the
impact
it
has
had
on
our
community.
D
If
we
just
moved
to
a
30,
60
split,
we're
perpetuating
more
inequity
so
somewhere
in
there,
I
would
feel
more
comfortable
if
it
named
going
beyond
what
is
allowed
by
the
state
and
or
something
like
a
50
50
split,
which
would
still
keep
the
advertising
budget
similar
to
what
it
was
in
past
recent
past
years.
B
Thanks
for
that,
councilwoman
rony-
and
I
I
will
note
that
we
did
add
a
line
into
the
particular
agenda
and
I'm
going
to
try
to
quote
it
specifically,
which
ask
for
not
only
a
more
equitable
division
under
the
current
regulations,
but
also
that
consideration
beginning
to
amending
the
committee
guidelines
and
the
committee
guidelines
are,
is
a
state
level
body
and
a
state
level
set
of
guidelines
that
are
provided,
which
give
a
general
range
of
authorization
for
occupancy
taxes
to
be
set
across
the
state.
B
Those
guidelines
currently
prescribe
a
33,
66
or
one
third,
two
thirds
split,
and
we
are
asking
there
for
not
just
a
reallocation
locally
more
in
line
with
those
guidelines,
but
also
that
the
guidelines
themselves
be
amended
to
allow
for
a
much
broader
range
of
those
or
much
or
much
more
significant
portion
of
those
funds
to
be
attributed
to
some
of
the
local
impact
areas
such
as
you've
described.
So
we
have
added
in
some
language
about
that.
B
We
have
not
specified
a
specific
change
in
terms
of
the
numbers
or
the
percentages,
but
we
have
added
this,
which
was
not
included
in
our
previous
legislative
agenda
item
along
these
fronts,
to
specifically
amend
the
legislative
guidelines,
which
would
give
a
great
deal
more
authority
to
change
these
things
locally.
D
And
I'll
just
name
that
there
are
community
requests
that
the
hotel
occupancy
taxes
be
used
to
address
our
issues
around
systemic
racism,
which
is
acknowledged
as
a
public
health
crisis
in
our
community,
and
so
because
we
have
those
calls
already
lifted
up
like
in
the
co.
Think
this
moment
statement
and
others
that
are
asking
for
whether
that
be
reparations
or
addressing
disparities.
That
gets
us
more
towards
what
I'm
hearing
looks
like
equity.
D
But
I
don't
see
something
like
that
explicitly
named.
So
just
for
the
record,
I
have
to
say
that
I
would.
I
would
encourage
us
to
support
something,
either
more
explicit
and
or
beyond
what
the
state
allows
at
a
30-60
split.
A
Yeah,
I
don't
I
I
don't
know
how
we
word
it
brad
in
terms
of
that,
you
know
what
what's
finally
adopted
by
council
and
we
have
this
situation
where
a
bill
is
pending.
We're
being
told
it's
going
to
pass
this
session,
although
we're
also
being
told
I've
heard,
the
session
will
be
20
days
long.
So
I
don't
know
how
much
is
going
to
get
passed,
but
I
have
faith
that
it
will
get
passed
and
the
legislative
committee
guidelines
restrict
us
to
this
30
and
I've
talked
to
our
senator
julie,
mayfield.
A
You
know
we're
she's
in
agreement
that
the
place
to
start
is
going
to
have
to
be
with
the
change
to
those
committee
guidelines
and-
and
maybe
the
climate
is
right
for
that,
because
things
have
changed,
I
mean
we're
looking
at
well.
The
tourism
development
authority
is
looking
at
a
room
tax
revenue
of
40
million
dollars.
This
year
I
mean
when
I
I
don't
know
gwen
I'm
trying
to
remember
how
I
mean
it
was
under
10
million
dollars
not
that
long
ago.
A
So
you
know,
maybe
the
legislature
will
I
I
think
we
ought
to
keep
asking
and
demanding-
and
maybe
at
some
point
it'll
finally
happen-
and
I
think
I
mean
even
locally
there's
some
agreement-
that
40
million
dollars
is
plenty
of
money
to
spend
on
marketing.
In
fact,
it's
way
more
than
what's
needed,
and
you
know-
and
I
do
hear
from
folks
in
the
tourism
industry-
frustration
with
the
restraints
on
these
funds
as
well,
so
I
think
we
could
get
consensus
locally,
that
something
different
be
done.
A
So
what
I
don't
know
how
we
word
that
exactly
brad,
but
but
I
think
whether
we
get
real
specific
about
the
kinds
of
flexibility
like
councilwoman
is
talking
about
and
addressing
issues
around
equity
or,
if
we
more
broadly
say
you
know
or
both,
but
you
know
that
that
the
percentage
needs
to
be
different,
that
the
flexibility
needs
to
be
increased.
D
B
So
for
information
purposes,
the
specific
line
in
the
proposed
legislative
agenda
that
deals
with
this
item
currently
reads
quote:
the
city
of
asheville
would
also
request
that
consideration
be
given
to
amending
the
committee
guidelines
for
occupancy
tax
expenditures
such
that
the
most
equitable
distribution
can
be
realized,
in
quote
so
that
is
the
additional
language
added
to
what
had
previously
been
a
legislative
agenda
item
simply
requesting
the
modifications
around
those
other
items.
So
I'm
happy
to
add
some
additional
language
in
there.
B
A
Thanks,
I
think
that's
fine.
If
you
want
to
itemize
some,
you
know
if
it's
to
allow
for
flexibility
and
funding,
for
you
know
a
whole
host
of
things.
A
You
know
if
it's
I
don't,
if,
if
it's
more
of
abstract,
like
equity
or
if
it's
real,
specific,
like
transportation
or
you
know
what
whatever
the
case
may
be
or
housing
affordable
housing,
you
know.
I
think
that
would
be
helpful.
I
wonder
if
there's
some
language
that
we
have
that
you
you
could
that
already,
where
we've
already
identified
these
values
that
you
could
lift,
that
would
mirror
our
policies.
D
I
mean
we
could
start
with
identifying
the
social
determinants
of
health
and
racial
disparities
around
and
just
name
our
focus
areas
for
reparations,
criminal
justice,
economic
development,
education,
health
and
housing.
I
mean
if
we
want
to
get
into
the
specific
details.
D
Infrastructure
is
a
huge
one,
but
I
think
for
me
it
it
would
make
sense
to
say
more
about
instead
of
more
equitable,
that
could
be
one
percent.
We
need
a
lot
more
than
a
penny
here.
C
My
preference,
my
preference,
would
be
not
to
I
mean
I
don't
have
a
problem,
putting
you
know
like
percentages
in
there
that
you
know
show
a
difference
than
the
three
quarters
and
you
know
what
what
the
city
you
know
what's
available
for
the
community.
I
don't
mind
that,
but
my
preference
would
be
that
we
not.
C
C
Wound
up
about
you
know
the
city
of
asheville,
being
too
liberal,
so
I
I
guess
I
just
you
know
I'm
looking
for
get
more
money,
that's
my
that's
my
biggest
focus,
and
so
whatever
the
request
is,
I
just
think
to
have
our
eye
on
the
prize
as
opposed
to
and
allowing
the
city
the
most
flexibility
and,
frankly,
the
state
legislature,
the
most
flexibility
they
can
have
to
just
get
this
thing
passed.
C
I
mean
I,
I
certainly
would
say
you
know,
maybe
something
along
the
lines
of
you
know.
While
we
unders
you
know,
we
understand
that
the
current
guidelines
is
probably
a
good
starting
place,
we're
still
looking
for.
We
still
don't
believe
that
this
is
enough,
and-
and
you
know
you
know
what
whatever
that
number
is,
if
it's
50
or
whatever
I'm
fine
with
that,
but
I
think
we
have
to
frankly
acknowledge
that
that's
not
going
to
happen
this
year.
C
D
C
Yeah
I
mean
I
certainly
don't
kim
I.
I
certainly
don't
think
that
making
a
statement
that,
like
you
know
this,
isn't
enough,
but
we
recognize
that
this
is
kind
of
what
the
guidelines
are
right
now.
I
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
that,
but
I
just
I
just
don't
want
to
get
into
a.
A
Always
is
you
know
not
getting
into
such
big
scrap
with
them
that
they
won't
pass
what
we've
got
pending,
but
continuing
to
push
for
what
we
think
makes
more
sense
for
asheville.
So
you
know
I
50
50
is
something
we've
talked
about
in
the
past.
I'd
feel
comfortable
with
that
that
ask
because
I've
had
conversations
with
county
commissioners,
and
I
I
you
know,
I
think
that,
based
on
those
conversations,
I
think
they'd
be
supportive
as
well,
because
of
course
this
is
not
just
for
asheville.
A
This
is
asheville
and
buckingham
county,
so
you
know
trying
to
stay
aligned
with
them.
You
know
being
good
team
player
here
with
them,
trying
to
make
sure
we're
on
the
we're
on
the
same
page
and
in
in
frank
in
the
in
the
past.
Before
we
knew
before
it
was
looking
like
40
million
dollars,
there
was
even
a
proposal
coming
out
of
the
county
that
it
go
to
50
50.
A
Once
the
revenue
collection
hit
a
certain
amount
like
25
million
or
something
like
that
and
kind
of
bifurcated,
the
funds
get
that
gets
kind
of
complicated,
but
now
we're
looking
at
so
much
money.
I
don't
know
that
that
bifurcation
is
is
needed
because
50
50
is
still
20
million
for
marketing,
so
so
brad.
A
After
all
this
discussion,
do
you
think
you
can
put
something
together
that
that
reinforces
our
ask
for
the
pending
legislation
and
our
support
for
the
pending
legislation,
but
ask
for
a
change
in
the
committee
and
specifically
when
it
comes
to
asheville
that
we
think
something
more
on
the
lines
of
50
50
is
appropriate
with
this
increased
flexibility
and
spending
to
address
a
myriad
of
issues,
including
equity
issues,
around
equity.
B
I
believe
we
can
do
that
mayor
and
I
I
have
just
during
this
committee
meeting
sent
out
to
all
of
council
the
proposed
additional
item
regarding
the
use
of
remaining
arpa
funds
at
the
state
level
for
the
support
or
incentivizing
of
affordable
housing
development.
I
will
go
ahead
and
put
some
additional
language
in
this.
B
I
believe
I'm
hearing
consensus
among
the
committee
on
this
to
add
a
few
specifics
regarding
ensuring
an
expansion
of
allowable
uses,
we've
already
added
that
wording
in
generally,
but
I
want
to
be
also
very
specific
that
we
would
want
that
to
be
incorporated
into
the
committee
guidelines
as
well.
Any
alteration
of
those
and
added
some
language
in
there
around
the
suggested
new
percentage
breakdown
as
well.
B
Once
I
put
that
together
I'll
send
that
on
to
council,
probably
today,
so
that
the
entire
council
can
begin
seeing
that
and
that
will
be
proposed,
if
approved
by
this
committee,
to
the
full
council
and
made
public
in
advance
as
well.
D
A
Night
second
path:
okay,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
any,
oh,
let's
see
do
we
have
anyone
who
would
like
to
make
public
comment.
There
are
no
colors
on
the
line.
Okay,
anybody
have
any
other
comments
before
we
do
a
world
culvert
all
right,
all
those
in
well.
I'm
sorry
wait
if
you're
in
favor,
please
say
aye
so
councilwoman,
rony,
hi
and
councilwoman
whistler
and
myself,
I
okay,
we!
A
This
will
go
to
the
full
council
for
the
april
26
meeting
all
right
and
now
we're
to
the
public
comment
portion
of
the
agenda
and
I'll
just
check
again.
Do
we
have
anyone
on
the
line
who
would
like
to
make
public
comment?
Nope
still
no
colors
on
the
line?
Okay,
all
right,
councilwomen!
I
think
we
are
then
adjourned
and
we
will
see
you
everybody
else
in
person
for
the
budget
work
session
that
begins
at
2
30
other
than
gwen.
Who
will
be
continuing
to
attend
remotely?