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From YouTube: Environment & Safety Committee – September 26, 2023
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Regular meeting of the Asheville City Council Environment & Safety Committee.
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A
B
Wonderful
thanks
awesome.
Good
morning,
everyone,
my
name,
is
Maggie
Olman
and
I'm,
the
chair
of
our
environment
and
Safety
Committee,
here
at
the
city
of
Asheville
Welcome
to
our
September
26th,
remote
meeting
to
all
council
members
and
staff.
We
are
all
participating
virtually
and
to
help
you
all
follow
along
if
you're,
watching
on
the
video
I'm
going
to
State
each
agenda
number
aloud
as
we
go
we're
streaming
on
our
virtual
engagement
Hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
Hub
link
on
the
very
front
of
the
city's
website.
B
B
B
B
B
Maybe
she's
watching
from
from
one
of
the
offices,
also
our
City
attorney
Brad
Branham
is
here.
F
B
Planning
an
Urban
Design
director,
our
newly
appointed
director
Steph
munsondal
good
morning.
Everyone
as
well
as
our
Urban
Forester,
hey
Keith,
Keith
Keith
Atkins-
is
here
also.
B
And
that
is
our
staff
list
and
a
lot
of
VIPs
good
to
see
everybody.
We
also
have
some
guests,
so
we
have
Patrick
Gilbert,
who
is
the
chair
of
our
urban
forestry
commission,
good.
B
B
So
glad
to
have
such
a
nice
full
room
of
folks,
so,
as
is
our
process,
we
will
start
our
agenda
with
our
item.
Our
first
item,
which
is
public,
comment
Allison,
do
we
have
anyone
calling
in
for
our
first
round
of
public
comment
today?
Yes,.
D
A
You
hi,
my
name
is
Patrick
Conan
and
I
live
in
sweat.
Basketball
I'd
like
to
make
public
comment
on
item
six
qualification
ordinance
next
steps
at
this
point.
The
technical
amendments
are
in
place
and
it
appears
that
neither
Council
nor
staff
want
to
pursue
the
proposal
to
criminalize
donations
from
a
vehicle
that
leaves
just
one
item
on
the
table.
The
expansion
of
high
traffic
does,
which
essentially
do
one
thing
criminalize
verbal
solicitation.
A
A
A
If
we're
seeking
to
increase
pedestrian
safety,
then
let's
do
a
holistic
analogy
of
what
is
causing
these
accidents
and
what
can
be
done
to
address
them.
I
do
not
support
this
committee
AdSense
app
to
do
the
continued
analysis
if
their
goal
is
solely
to
justify
a
predetermined
outcome
that
would
expand
the
criminal
penalties
for
for
solicitation
in
just
two
parts
of
the
city.
A
Our
city
has
a
number
of
Public
Safety
challenges,
and
this
committee
has
made
a
public
commitment
to
allow
additional
discussion
on
some
of
these
topics,
such
as
the
piece
with
cameras,
though
so
I
encouraged
with
committee
to
end
this
distraction
and
shift
our
Focus
back
to
more
important
work.
Thank
you.
K
Hi
good
morning,
I
really
appreciate
the
comments
of
the
previous
caller
I
have
to
say
that
I'm
really
having
Deja
Vu
here
Council
later
in
this
meeting,
you're
going
to
see
another
presentation
of
what
the
cops
call
a
data
analysis,
Doug
oser,
who
worked
for
APD,
makes
78
000
a
year
and
does
not
know
how
data
works.
Just
like
the
time
in
February
of
2021,
where
he
tried
to
claim
that
modes
of
the
so-called
crime
in
downtown
Asheville
was
caused
by
people
who
were
camping
because
they
had
nowhere
else
to
live.
K
He
once
again,
it's
just
drawn
circles
around
busy
spots
in
downtown
Asheville
and
it's
time
to
correlate
panhandling
with
pedestrian
motor
vehicle
collision.
Atd
will
breathingly
make
up
data
to
try
to
justify
whatever
attack
on
four
people
that
they're
trying
to
carry
out
next.
Even
these
charts
show
that
calls
about
panhandling
are
drastically
down
yet
they're,
going
to
attribute
that
to
Under
reporting,
because
even
their
data
doesn't
fit.
K
The
narrative
that
they're
trying
to
support
none
of
what
the
president's
taking
care
about
the
year
should
be
taken
seriously
once
again,
they're
employing
correlation
without
causation,
which
is
called
a
questionable
cause
logical
fallacy.
Anyone
with
a
basic
knowledge
of
the
statistics
would
perform
a
regression
analysis
which
you
could
probably
do
with
restaurants,
downtown
or
high
traffic
intersection.
Myself,
and
many
of
my
neighbors
know
that
panhandling
ordinance
doesn't
belong
in
our
community
at
all,
and
we
certainly
don't
want
it
added
to
West
Asheville,
where
I
live
or
the
river
Arts
District.
K
Yet
you're
going
to
use
more
false
information
to
try
to
justify
its
expansion,
and
it's
discussing
that
you
use
the
very
real
and
tragic
situation
of
pedestrians
hit
by
cars
in
our
community,
where
we
have
the
most
pedestrian
deaths
in
the
state
to
attack
people
who
are
asking
for
help
in
our
amazingly
unaffordable
City.
Meanwhile,
you're
slacking
the
public
transportation
budget
and
giving
more
and
more
money
to
cop.
K
There
are
a
couple
of
things:
I
deeply,
don't
understand
about
you,
even
though
you
don't,
even
if
you
don't
care
at
all
about
people
are
struggling
to
survive.
You
can't
possibly
believe
that
enforcement
of
this
policy
will
actually
change
anything
and
no
matter
what
you
do
cops
will
say
it
isn't
enough
and
blame
you
for
it,
while
you're
bringing
shame
onto
our
community
that
could
be
at
the
Forefront
of
modeling
Community
Care.
K
When
you
all
said
you
were
going
to
reimagine
Public
Safety
back
in
2020
I
was
foolish
enough
to
believe
that
that
meant
real
changes.
If
not,
the
violence
cops
inflicts
on
inflict
on
our
community,
but
instead
it
meant
fake
data,
PR
firm
commercials
where
cops
eat
pizza
to
a
back
eat,
and
it's
that
Gucci
dog
taking
hot
for
publicity
son.
K
D
H
H
Thank
you,
my
name
is
Jenkins
and
I
live
in
West,
Asheville
and
I
am
calling
in
regarding
the
panhandling
and
solicitation
ordinance.
I've
been
thinking
a
lot
lately
about.
You
know
both
the
technical
changes
and
the
increase
changes
that
you're
you're
also
considering
and
I'm.
Just
thinking
about
you
know
when
someone
is
slapped
with
that
500
fine
and
they
don't
have
the
money
to
pay
it.
H
You
know,
what's
going
to
happen
to
that
person
and
what's
going
to
happen
to
the
city,
because
when
people
can't
say
the
fine
they
get
put
into
the
system
further,
and
these
people
end
up
having
a
record,
maybe
they'll
end
up
going
to
jail.
Maybe
there
are
going
to
be
many
thousands
of
dollars
spent
on
panhandlers
who
can't
pay
their
way
out
of
their
ticket.
H
H
You've
completed
this
so-called
technical
Amendment,
which
has
already
created
the
additional
input
restriction,
but
I
think
we
need
to
take
a
step
back
and
understand
if
having
a
panhandling
ordinance
in
our
town,
really
the
right
way
to
go.
What
about?
Instead
of
creating
high
traffic
Zone,
we
create
high
giving
zones
where,
luckily,
you
do
have
access
to
these
people
who
are
in
deep
need
and
we
have
an
ability
to
give
them
resources
to
give
them
food
to
give
them
shelter.
H
We
know
where
they
are
according
to
your
map
and
instead
of
putting
our
foot
down
upon
these
people,
I
think
we
need
to
find
ways
to
actually
support
these
people
and
support
everybody
in
our
community
and
I.
As
someone
who
lived
in
Asheville
since
2000
and
eight
would
feel
a
lot
safer,
if
I
knew
that
our
city
council
and
our
government
had
a
plan
in
place
to
support
these
people
and
500
funds,
that
will
let
that
may
end
up
putting
these
people
in
an
incarceral
situation.
H
It's
not
going
to
make
me
safer,
you
safer
or
anybody
else,
but
radical
generosity
and
actually
turning
a
new
page
like
we
want
to
do
with
preparations.
We
could
also
turn
a
new
page
with
panhandling
and
solicitation
by
actually
being
kind
to
these
people
and
supporting
them
in
radical
ways.
H
D
I
Hey
y'all,
yeah,
I,
suppose
I
feel.
I
I
I
You
know
they're
already
in
a
place
where
they
feel
ashamed
to
ask
for
help,
and
you
know
if
they
end
up
asking
for
help
and
they
get
help
and
they
can
receive
help.
I
believe
you
know
it
reinforces
a
relationship
with
the
community.
I
I
I.
Also
wonder
you
know
where
the
conversation
lies
with
prevention,
not
just
treatment
of
poverty
and
I'm,
not
so
sure
that
this
treatment
I
feel
like
this
is
just
some
form
of
like
eradicating
it
in
the
public
eye.
But
you
know
I'd
wonder
what
you
guys
are
doing
to
prevent
this
stuff.
I
Yeah
I.
Just
believe
like
by
putting
in
these
ordinances
and
like
this
expansion,
yeah
we're
just
perpetuating
A
system
that
devalues
you
know,
people
in
the
community
and
I'm
I,
don't
see
what
good
that
could
possibly
do
when
we
have
a
choice
to
you,
know,
reinforce
humanity
and
look
out
for
each
Community
member
yeah,
I
really
hope
you'll
take
into
consideration
the
effects
this
can
have
on
not
just
people
who
are
houseless,
but
also
the
rest
of
the
community,
who
you
know
just
trying
to
work
on
these
value
systems.
D
B
Great
I
appreciate
all
the
poor
callers
thanks
for
laying
in
and,
as
you
know,
we
also
have
a
public
comment
at
the
end.
So
if
you're
listening
along
and
want
to
share
further
there'll
be
a
time
then
so
we
will
move
to.
Our
second
agenda
item,
which
is
approval
of
the
August
22nd
minute.
B
Is
that
a
motion
to
approve
those
so
moved
Cassandra
all
right?
First
in
a
second,
so
roll
call
vote
vice
mayor,
Kilgore
performance,
Nest,
hi
and
myself,
I
had
a
mission
passes
miniature
Broods.
Okay.
Now
we
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
three,
which
is
the
urban
forestry
commission
annual
update,
I,
think
there's
a
crew
y'all
here
and
great
we're
gonna,
get
a
presentation.
Take
it
away.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
good
morning
to
you
and
to
the
other
members
of
the
committee
to
city
manager
Campbell
and
to
City
attorney,
Brad,
Branham
and
other
staff.
My
name
is
again
is
Patrick
Gilbert
and
I.
J
Am
the
chair
of
the
urban
forestry
Commission
with
me
this
morning
is
Zoe
Hoyle
our
vice
chair,
chair
of
our
Urban
Forest
master
plan
working
group
and
our
representative
to
the
missing
middle
housing,
advisory
committee
and
Ed
Macy,
who
is
a
retired
Urban
Forester,
a
member
of
Asheville,
Green,
Works,
board
of
directors
and
Greenworks
representative
to
the
urban
forestry
commission
and
the
chair
of
our
policy
working
group.
J
J
This
was
approved
last
year
by
the
urban
forestry
commission,
I
believe
it
was
in
late
summer,
Early
Autumn,
and
we
took
upon
ourselves
to
do
this
because
we
felt
and
better
represented
what
the
urban
forestry
commission
is
about
and
its
transformation
from
its
previous
iteration
of
the
treat
commission.
J
Our
intent
is
to
hopefully
to
include
this
in
a
package
of
amendments
to
the
code
of
ordinances,
particularly
in
Chapter.
2
article
3
division,
7
urban
forestry
commission,
along
with
some
text
amendments
to
the
tree,
canopy,
preservation
ordinance.
J
This
will
go
forward
either
as
a
mission
statement
or
to
replace
the
purpose
and
powers
that
are
contained
in
chapter
2..
J
So
we
can
move
on
if
there's
not
any
questions,
because
we
have
this
new
reporting
process
in
which
boards
and
commissions
are
now
reporting
to
new
newly
formed
city
council
committees.
J
And
of
course
our
report
is
through
the
environment
and
Public
Safety
committee
I
thought
I'd
include
a
couple
of
slides,
showing
the
commission
structure
just
to
give
the
committee
members
who
might
not
be
as
familiar
with
us
a
little
bit
about
how
we're
set
up.
J
Of
course,
we
have
some
on
the
next
slide.
Please
Allison!
Yes,
so
we
have
a
number
of
ongoing
working
groups.
These
are
created
as
we
identify
issues
that
we
feel
should
be
pursued
either
through
self-identification
or
in
some
cases,
issues
that
are
brought
To
Us
by
people
in
the
community.
J
And
then
we
put
together
a
four-member
working
group
around
that
issue
and
we
do
our
research
and
Analysis
and
then
work
with
the
appropriate
staff
to
carry
through
certain
initiatives.
J
So
we
can
move
on
if
no
questions
there.
The
next
several
slides
are,
are
priorities
that
ongoing
priorities
that
we've
been
working
on
not
only
this
year,
but
actually
probably
for
the
last
couple
of
years.
J
The
first
one
is
working
on
some
update
text
amendments
for
section
719,
the
tree,
canopy,
preservation,
ordinance.
Of
course,
the
city
council
unanimously
approved
the
tree.
Canopy
preservation,
ordinance
in
I,
believe
it
was
October
of
2020.
J
Since
that
time
we
have
closely
monitored
the
effectiveness
of
that
ordinance
and
identified
some
areas
that
we
thought
needed
to
be
updated
and
changed
after
two
years
in
which
this
ordinance
has
been
in
effect,
and
we've
been
working
with
staff
on
these
text,
amendments
which
we
hope
will
go
before
the
city
council,
either
later
this
year
or
early
next
year,
or
no
questions
I'll
move
on
the
next
one
is.
B
Patrick
I'm
sorry
I
have
a
question
on
the
elections
sure
so
you
can
go
back
to
that
slide.
J
Well,
it
does
in
a
sense,
but
it
goes
beyond
that
and
I
know
that
Ed
Macy
has
been
working
on
on
this
specific
part
of
the
text.
Amendment,
so
Ed
do
you
wanna
chime
in.
C
Sure,
thank
you.
Patrick
Landmark
trees
is
a
new
definition
that
recognizes
some
of
the
more
mature
and
older
specimens
that
are
scattered
throughout
the
city
very
similar
to
the
treasure
tree
program,
which
is
a
voluntary
recognition
program
for
treason,
private
property.
C
The
primary
purpose
of
the
landmark
trees
is
to
incentivize
Builders
and
developers
to
protect
these
trees,
rather
than
remove
them
where
it's
possible
on
construction
sites,
giving
the
builders
and
developers
double
canopy
credit
to
help
them
meet
their
canopy
requirements
if
they
do
save
these
trees
and,
conversely,
having
a
double
canopy
replacement
requirement
if
they
do
remove
them
and
then
for
Landmark
trees
on
on
public
rights
of
way,
public
park
properties
and
Parks.
C
The
the
idea
is
to
this
is
sort
of
precipitated
a
little
bit
by
the
incidents
that
occurred
along
the
golf
course,
but
to
have
a
dialogue
with
the
urban
forestry
commission
prior
to
a
decision
to
remove
a
city
tree
that
meets
a
landmark
criteria
so
that
we
can
prevent
some
inadvertent
removals
where
that's
possible.
So
that's
the
whole
idea
behind
it.
It
the
term
Landmark
tree,
is
one
that
we
settle
on
versus
other
common
terms.
C
That
are
used
like
Heritage
trees,
which
might
imply
more
of
a
cultural
significance
or
historic
trees,
which
would
obviously
have
more
of
a
historic
significance
or
specimen
trees
which
is
commonly
used
with
the
nursery
industry.
So
the
scene,
like
a
pretty
good
term,
to
use
that's
a
pretty
quick
overview.
Are
there
any
questions.
B
I
mean
yes,
but
it
sounds
like
this.
You
all
are
working
on
it
right
now.
I'm
sure
that
the
urban
forestry
commission,
as
you
work
through
proposals,
you'll,
be
working
with
the
legal
department
to
understand
kind
of
what
Lanes
we
have
open
so
just
be
interested
to
learn
more
as
it
makes
its
way
towards
Council.
But
thanks
for
the
the
summary
was
helpful
just
to
make
sure
I'm
grounded
in
the
concept.
Thank
you.
So
you
can
continue
and.
C
J
Thank
you
Ed.
The
next
slide
is
chapter
20,
which
deals
with
the
planting
maintenance
and
removal
of
trees
on
public
property.
J
In
keeping
with
the
progress
that
we've
made
with
the
true
canopy
preservation
ordinance,
we
felt
that
it
was
necessary
to
update
the
language
in
chapter
20,
to
make
it
more
relevant
and
make
it
more
modern,
and
so
we,
the
the
policy
working
group,
actually
came
up
with
a
lot
of
the
revised
language
for
chapter
20,
utilizing
the
expertise
that
we
have
on
on
that
committee,
and
we
have
now
been
in
discussions
with
staff
at
the
Department
of
Public
Works,
on
revising
this
chapter
of
our
city
ordinance.
J
J
and
the
urban
forestry
commission
had
was
represented
on
that
task
force.
At
the
early
outset
of
those
meetings,
the
urban
forestry
commission
had
taken
the
position
that
we
wanted
to
see.
Whatever
changes
in
the
open
space
language
apply
to
development
projects
in
the
central
business
district.
J
J
Think
our
position
was
that
if
there,
if
open
space
was
required
in
the
central
business
district,
and
it
would
require
developers
who
couldn't
meet
those
standards
to
pay
a
fee
Lou,
and
that
would
give
the
city
more
of
a
chance
to
take
that
money
and
perhaps
buy
up
some
property
for
mini
or
pocket
parks,
and
it
would
be
an
opportunity
to
plant
more
trees
in
the
downtown
area.
J
I
think
if
you
go
back
to
2018
when
the
NASA
Development
Group
did
a
heat
island
study
of
the
city
of
Asheville,
the
downtown
area
was
identified
as
having
the
highest
surface
temperature
of
any
area
in
the
city
of
Asheville.
And
of
course
the
downtown
is
a
area
for
a
lot
of
that
has
a
lot
of
workers,
residents
and,
of
course,
tourists.
J
So
we
were
thinking
of
ways
of
how
we
could
increase
the
green
infrastructure
of
downtown
Asheville
and
but
because
of
the
pushback.
We
took
that
under
consideration
and
decided
that
we
would
back
off
of
that
position
if
we
could
get
some
agreement
on
how
to
improve
planting
trees
in
the
downtown
area.
That
would
optimize
their
development
into
mature
trees
and
provide
the
benefits
that
trees
do
provide
for
our
city
and
of
course
there
are
many
challenges
for
planting
trees
and
their
survival
in
the
downtown
area.
J
So
the
Dallas
Africa,
who
was
the
Steph
liaison
to
the
open
space
task
force
to
his
credits,
saw
a
lot
of
Merit
in
that
and
he
created
another
task
force
to
which
encompassed
some
of
the
many
of
the
same
people
that
were
on
the
open
space
task
force
to
study
the
issue
of
how
to
improve
tree
planning
standards
in
the
downtown
area.
J
Interestingly,
about
four
or
five
meetings
into
the
process,
someone
from
the
development
Community
said
at
a
meeting.
You
know
this.
These
ideas
that
we're
discussing
are
so
good
that
it's
a
shame
to
restrict
them
to
the
downtown
area.
J
We
should
actually
be
considering
expanding
this
to
the
whole
city
of
Asheville
and
that's
the
direction
that
the
tree
planting
standard
task
force
took,
and
so
they
have
probably
done
about
30
meetings
so
far
and
pretty
much
concluded
their
work
on
these
improvements.
J
So
I
just
wanted
to
explain
that,
because
this
is
not
unlike
the
other
priorities
that
we
have.
This
is
not
solely
an
urban
forestry
commission
driven
initiative.
J
Questions
on
that,
so
the
next
side
is
just
some
key
events
that
happen
so
far
this
year
and,
of
course,
you
know
we're
delighted
that
the
city
council
passed
a
budget
that
included
funding
for
urban
Forest
master
plan
and
even
more
delighted
that
we
now
have
an
urban
Forester
and
Keith
Aiken
on
board
to
help
us
move
a
lot
of
these
initiatives
on
so
our
year
in
goals.
J
You
can
see
that
on
the
and,
of
course,
that's
to
conclude
a
lot
of
our
work
on
the
ordinance
text
amendments
and
to
really
move
along
the
Urban
Forest
developing
an
urban
Forest
master
plan,
which
would
be
a
critical
piece
of
our
compre
comprehensive
urban
forestry
program
and
bring
that
to
the
city
council
as
soon
as
we
can.
So
with
that
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
that
anybody
has
or
I
can
ask
Ed
or
Zoe
if
they
have
or
Keith.
C
B
Do
not
I
have
one
I
have
one
question
the
appropriate
list,
if
I'm
remembering
that
correctly,
that's
a
list
that
we
provide
to
the
private
Community
during
development
projects
and
actually
like
we
were
working
on
that
when
I
was
a
sustainability
office.
Is
that
I
wasn't
under
the
impression
that
it's
like
a
permanently
iterative
list,
so
do
am
I
what
am
I
trying
to
get
to?
What's
it
going
to
take
to
get
that
done,
so
that
we're
using
that
list
to
reach
these
type
of
goals
or
like?
What's
the
hold
up.
C
Yeah
I
see
that
Keith
races,
hand
too
yeah
I
I'm,
not
really
quite
sure
where
the
holdup
is
I.
You
know
I
think
it's
pretty
much
ready
for
prime
time
there's.
C
You
know
some
ongoing
discussion
about
Native
versus
non-native
species
and
the
movement
of
species
as
a
result
of
climate
change.
So
you
know
you
have
to
kind
of
think
of
lists
like
these
as
a
snapshot
in
time
to
a
certain
extent,
because
I
I
think
there'll
there'll
always
be
new
iterations
as
things
change,
but
it
it
should
be
pretty
close.
Last
I
heard
it
should
be
pretty
close
to
being
complete
for
now
and
either
way
it
is
being
utilized
so
Keith
you,
you
raised
your
hand.
L
Yeah,
it's
I'm
I'm,
actually
working
on
it
right
now
and
I
had
a
two-week
setback,
so
we
should
be.
We
should
have
it
out
in
people's
hands
for
review
here,
probably
within
10
days
and
then
hopefully
by
October
mid-october
have
a
final
draft
out.
B
J
You
yeah
I
think
also
we
have
sort
of
drilled
down
a
bit
on
this
so
that
we
can
recommend
appropriate
species
for
certain
types
of
areas,
for
example,
trees
and
parking
lots.
J
You
know
there
are
some
trees
that
do
well
there
and
some
that
don't
so
we
thought
you
know
we
could
break
this
down
so
that
we
could
recommend
to
developers
the
best
type
of
tree
species
that
would
do
have
the
best
chance
of
surviving
in
in
parking
lots
and
we've
done
the
same
for
Street
trees
and
you
know
Etc.
J
So
hopefully
this
will
be
a
good
guide
for
developer
developers
in
terms
of
planning
appropriate
tree
species
that
again
would
optimize
their
chance
of
survival
and
add
to
our
Urban
canopy.
E
B
Unless
there
aren't
any
further
questions,
really
appreciate
it
and
we'll
be
seeing
you
I
think
at
some
Council
conversations
with
the
new
teacher
glad
you're
all
here.
Let's
move
on
to
item
number
four
very
interesting
topic:
single-use
plastic
reduction
project
update
with
our
associate
Mobility
director
Bridget.
M
Good
morning,
everyone
again
I
am
Bridget.
Herring
and
I
have
the
privilege
to
serve
as
the
sustainability
director
for
the
city
of
Asheville
and
here
to
give
you
an
update
on
our
plastic
reduction
project.
So
if
we
can
move
to
the
next
Slide,
the
things
that
I
want
to
leave
you
with
today
is
a
little
synopsis
of
the
project
overall
and
kind
of
where
we
are
so
reminding
folks
that
this
project
included
across
departmental
initiative.
So
our
legal
team
supported
us
in
looking
at
the
the
regulatory
landscape.
M
Here,
our
sanitation
folks
really
took
a
deep
dive
into
our
core
services
and
how
these
products
are
captured
or
lacked
thereof
of
them
being
captured
within
our
our
solid
waste
system.
And
then
my
little
team
conducted
a
public
engagement
campaign
to
talk
to
Residents
and
businesses
about
potential
policies
and
programming
that
might
support
reduction
in
plastic
consumption
in
our
community.
M
M
However,
unfortunately,
due
to
legislative
changes
that,
at
the
time
that
I
made,
this
presentation
were
proposed
a
little
bit
more
firmed
up
now
that
have
preempted
the
city
from
taking
further
action
in
this
space.
So
we
recommend
pausing
with
further
policy
action
and
that
we
do
recommend
taking
what
we've
learned
through
the
engagement
and
some
of
our
existing
resources
to
identify
to
advance
some
of
the
programming
we've
identified
and
heard
and
roll
out
some
more
education
and
Outreach
to
help
our
community
make
this.
This
change
on
their
own.
M
We
had
over
7
000
individuals
and
businesses
engage
with
us,
and
so
I
really
appreciate
everybody's
time,
and
you
had
received
presentations
previously
on
the
analysis
that
was
conducted,
and
that
is
also
posted
online
in
case
anybody
wants
to
go
back
for
that
both
on
the
Committee
website,
as
well
as
on
the
project.
Page
and
I
did
a
deeper
dive
on
what
we
found
during
the
most
recent
phase
of
engagement
at
the
sustainability
advisory
committee
on
September
20th.
M
So
if
anybody
wants
to
hear
more
about
those
results,
they
can
go
and
watch
that
recording
as
well.
So
moving
on
to
the
next
slide
again,
the
major
accomplishment
that
we
were
able
to
or
policy
accomplishment
that
we
were
able
to
undertake
during
this
initiative
was
updating
chapter
15
of
the
city
code.
So
this
annotation
department
has
been
providing
free
biodegradable
bags
at
a
number
of
community
centers
and
fire
stations.
So
you
can
click
on
this
link
to
see
where
they're
all
being
distributed.
M
If
anybody
wants
to
go
and
try
them
out,
they'll
be
there
until
supplies.
Last
as
the
lease
start
to
fall,
I'm
sure
they'll
go
a
lot
quicker.
Also,
just
as
a
reminder
that
people
can
still
use
a
reusable
container
as
well
and
the
purpose
of
having
the
paper
and
the
reusable
container
one
reusable
you
can
use
over
and
over
again,
the
paper
bags
are
able
just
to
be
chucked
into
the
truck
and
be
composted
with
the
leaves
as
well,
so
reducing
the
the
need
for
that
additional
waste.
M
My
understanding
is
that
the
budget
has
been
passed
by
the
general
assembly
and
that
the
governor
is
going
to
not
sign
it,
but
not
veto
it
either,
and
so
it
will
be
I
believe
law
by
next
week,
but
maybe
our
City
attorney
Can
Shed.
More
light
on
that.
If
you
have
questions,
but
in
light
of
that
information,
we
recommend
not
going
any
further
down
the
policy
path
in
this
regard
been
living
on.
M
M
So
this
is
listed
in
order
of
you
know,
popularity
from
one
to
five,
one
being
the
highest
five
being
the
lowest
so
through
up
the
the
top
five
for
both
the
residents
and
businesses.
So
we'll
be
looking
at
what
resources
we
have
and
what
collaborations
we
can
establish
to
to
put
some
of
this
programming
out
into
the
community
and
and
to
keep
that
conversation
going
and
support
the
folks
that
want
to
reduce
their
consumption
either
in
their
own
lives
or
within
their
business.
M
So
that's
really
the
summary
that
I
wanted
to
leave
you
with
today
high
level
and
quick.
So
again,
the
key
takeaways
are
here
for
you
and
I'm
hope,
I'm
happy
to
answer,
questions
and
I
know
Brad's
here
as
well.
In
case
we
have
some
more
questions
on
the
legal
side
of
things.
B
Thanks
Bridget
I
feel,
like
you've
covered
it
pretty
thoroughly
that
this
is
one
of
those
things
where,
throughout
this
whole
conversation
we've
been
saying,
there
is
a
risk
that
the
state
will
preempt
our
ability
to
do
this
and
well
behold.
Here
we
are
there's
a
part
of
me
that,
like
it's
one
of
those
odd
things
I'm
like
glad
this
wasn't
11
months
from
now,
I,
don't
know
you
know
it's
like.
Obviously
you
know
kind
of
precious.
B
So
here
we
are
but
I
think
your
pivot
to
educate,
since
we
can't
regulate
I
feel
like
the
right.
The
right
next
steps,
yeah
freshner.
F
Hi
Sandra
I
can
probably
answer
that
for
you,
regardless
of
when
or
if
the
city
or
any
other
City
around
the
state
had
enacted
any
sort
of
Regulation,
and
this
includes
counties
as
well
any
sort
of
Regulation
around
this.
The
new
state
budget,
as
soon
as
it
goes
into
effect,
will
immediately
preempt
those.
So
it
would
essentially
void
those
regulations
if
we
had
established
something
it
would
no
longer
be
in
effect
once
the
proposed
budget
becomes
law
which
is
likely
to
do
in
just
the
next
few
days.
B
I
know
this
took
a
really
intensive
amount
of
staff
times
and
y'all
have
had
a
really
strong
focus
on
this
or
more
than
a
year
and
I
know
that
it
can
be
hard
when
you're
rolling
so
hard
so
fast
in
a
direction.
You'll
just
have
kind
of
the
rugs
pulled
out
from
under
you
on
the
state,
so
I'm,
sorry
for
that
I
know
a
lot
of
really
excellent.
B
Work
has
been
put
into
it,
but
I
also
know
we
have
an
overflowing
plate
of
policy
on
sustainability
play
to
things
that
we're
asking
of
you.
So
I
think
this
is
the
time
again
to
just
switch
to
educate
and
work
with
our
Community
Partners
and
keep
moving
forward
towards
the
plethora
of
things
that
we're
all
committed
to.
B
All
right,
if
there
are
no
further
thoughts
on
this
item,
thanks
Bridget
thanks
Brad,
we'll
move
on
to
item
agenda
item
number
five,
which
is
recreate
Asheville
or
recreate
shaping
our
City's
park
with
Otero.
G
So
good
morning,
committee,
chair
Oldman
vice
mayor
Kilgore,
council,
member
Smith,
I'm
D,
Tyrell,
mcgurt,
Parkinson
Recreation
director
here
at
the
city
of
Asheville.
This
is
an
update
from
our
July
25th
meeting
where
I
came
and
provided
you
an
update
on
the
comprehensive
plan
for
Parks
and
Recreation,
and
yes,
committee,
chair
Omen.
We
are
happy
to
be
moving
forward
with
recreate
Asheville
state
in
our
city
parks.
Next
slide,
some
keep
updates
or
takeaways.
G
From
this
just
a
reminder,
the
last
Parts
on
rep
comp
plan
was
completed
back
in
2009
last
fall
staff
started
having
conversations
around.
How
do
we
initiate
or
getting
things
getting
our
ducks
in
a
row
for
a
new
comp
plan?
An
RFP
was
issued
back
in
January
and
February.
We
selected
design
workshop
and
back
on
March
28th
earlier
this
year.
This
committee,
along
with
Council,
approved
the
contract
with
design
Workshop
to
develop
the
Parks
and
Recreation
system-wide
plan.
Today's
presentation
is
just
to
give
you
an
update
on
on
the
public
engagement
process.
G
Next
slide,
please
just
a
reminder
of
the
company
is
to
create
a
vision
for
the
enhanced
parts
and
Recreation
system
that
meets
the
needs
that
meets
the
current
and
future
needs
of
the
Asheville
community.
G
So,
as
we
move
forward
we're
thinking
about
what
we're
currently
doing
where
we
are
as
well
as
how
do
we
grow
and
move
forward
in
the
future
next
slide,
some
key
outcomes-
we're
looking
to
get
from
the
comp
plan,
include
taking
a
look
at
what
we
currently
have
and
assessing
what
those
needs
are
comparing
what
we're
hearing
from
the
community
or
what
they
would
like
to
see
in
their
Recreation
and
understanding
better
what
their
Recreation
needs,
keeping
Equity
first
and
foremost,
as
we
do
with
a
lot
of
things
that
we're
doing
within
a
department
prioritizing
our
programs,
as
well
as
capital,
Investments
That,
focus
on
maintaining
what
we
currently
have
and
keeping
those
facilities
and
parts
in
good
condition.
G
Again,
when
you're
going
through
a
Content
a
lot
of
times,
the
focus
is
doing.
What
are
the
new
things
that
we
can
do?
Our
focus
is
here
is
on.
How
do
we
maintain
what
we
currently
have
promote?
New
ideas
and
Partnerships,
which
we
think
is
an
innovation
which
is
one
of
our
internal
goals
within
the
department,
provide
sustainable
practices
and
strategies
to
fill
gaps
in
the
desired
Recreation.
G
And,
lastly,
our
outcome
is
to
educate
the
public
and
build
some
Community
Support
around
Recreation
needs
next
slide,
so
the
project
schedule
right
now
again
now
we're
happy
to
say
that,
as
of
yesterday
was
the
official
kickoff
to
the
public
September
25th
through
November
20th,
so
for
the
next
eight
weeks
will
involve
our
huge
public
engagement
process
phase.
One
you
see
here
is
our
community
needs
assessment
and
a
part
of
that
needs.
G
Assessment
includes
having
meetings
with
having
different
focus
group
meetings
with
various
stakeholder
groups,
both
those
who
are
currently
utilizing
our
facilities,
as
well
as
other
potential
partners
and
partners
that
we're
working
with
within
the
department
assistant,
city-wide
survey.
Where
we
go
out,
all
citizens
will
have
an
opportunity
to
provide
that
feedback
through
this
survey.
Opportunity
and
we'll
put
together
some
workshops
where
citizens
will
be
able
to
drop
in
and
provide
their
feedback
on
our
Parks
and
Recreation
comp
plan,
oh
hopefully,
by
the
first
of
the
year.
G
G
So
just
some
things
to
know
as
we
move
forward
planning
before
they
started
back
in
August,
we've
already
had
focus
group
meetings
with
various
stakeholders
in
the
community.
Those
stakeholders
came
from
different
areas
of
the
community,
including
Recreation
sustainability,
background
those
with
high
Equity
visions
and
priorities
and
then
Place
making.
G
We
kicked
off
Gregory
Asheville
website,
which
is
now
available,
so
we
encourage
everyone
to
visit
the
website,
which
is
up
and
going
as
of
yesterday
there.
You
can
find
all
the
information
about
the
survey,
the
upcoming
public
workshops
and
ways
that
citizens
can
get
involved,
engage
and
provide
feedback
on
this
comp
plan,
you'll
see
a
lot
of
promotional
materials
that
are
going
out
in
a
way
of
banners.
You
visit
any
park.
There
should
be
some
type
of
signage
with
the
QR
code
that
directs
people
to
the
survey.
G
You
start
seeing
more
yard
signs
we're
meeting
with
neighborhood
associations.
We've
sent
emails
out
to
all
the
neighborhood
association.
Presidents
are
Liaisons
to
make
them
aware.
So
if
they
want
to
invite
us
to
be
able
to
talk
about,
the
comp
plan
provide
some
more
information,
we're
making
ourselves
available
to
do
so.
Press
releases
have
gone
out
as
at
the
transit
bus
stations,
we're
trying
to
get
as
many
Avenues
covered
in
terms
of
getting
a
word
out
about
the
compliments.
So
people
can
provide
feedback.
G
The
survey
again
went
out
yesterday,
they're
going
the
two
ways:
people
can
participate,
there'll
be
one
survey
that
will
go
out
that
are
mailed
directly
to
people,
and
this
is
just
a
random
melon.
That's
going
to
about
a
thousand
residents
here
in
Asheville,
so
it's
really
random,
but
also
any
citizen
can
go
to
the
website,
recreate
Asheville
and
fill
out
the
the
public
online
survey
that
started
that
kid
dog
or
was
made
public
as
of
yesterday,
and
they
have
until
November
20th
to
do
so.
G
Some
public
workshops
that
are
coming
up
include
us
being
at
the
Nature
Center
on
October
5th
over
at
the
grant.
South
Side
Center
on
October,
6th
October
9th
would
be
a
shallow
Community
Center
and
then
on.
October
12th
will
be
at
carrier
Park,
and
these
workshops
are
an
opportunity
for
citizens
to
drop
in
go
through
a
few
exercises.
Look
at
some
maps
be
able
to
ask
questions
about
existing
Parks
facilities
provide
their
feedback
that
way,
but
it's
drop
in
during
the
hours
that
you
see
here.
G
This
is
also
included
on
the
website
and
any
of
the
information
that
we
mailed
out
and
shared
with
the
public.
So
citizens
have
just
another
opportunity
to
come
and
provide
feedback.
Child
Care
will
be
provided
we're
giving
Transportation
vouchers
for
those
who
may
need
help
or
public
assistance
would
get
into
any
of
these
sites
and
we'll
have
language
Services,
provided
at
least
at
one
of
those
public
workshops.
G
Next
slide,
some
other
engagement
opportunities
that
we're
looking
at
is.
We
have
a
number
of
programs
that
are
happening.
This
fall
within
the
department,
so
there
have
been
some
identified:
internal
department-led
activities,
events
and
programs
where
we
know
we'll
have
a
president's
Escape
Night
comes
to
mind,
that's
something
we
do
internal.
We
have
a
presence
at
our
skate
night
where
people
can
come
up.
Ask
questions,
provide
their
feedback.
G
We've
taken
a
look
at
all
of
the
events
and
vegetables
that
are
happening
in
Asheville
now
through
November
20th,
and
identify
some
key
events
and
festivals,
where
we
also
have
a
present
set
neighborhood
meetings.
Again,
we've
been
in
communication
with
all
the
neighborhood
groups
that
are
identify
with
the
city.
Communications
have
gone
out
to
them.
G
We
have
an
opportunity
to
be
invited
to
their
neighborhood
meetings,
to
answer
any
questions
or
to
share
more
about
the
comp
plan,
and
then,
lastly,
there
are
a
number
of
farmer
markets
coming
up
between
now
and
November
20th,
where
we'll
have
a
presence
and
be
there
promoting
the
survey
and
getting
people
more
information
about
the
comp
plan
next
slide.
G
So
just
to
recap
hour
last
time
we
went
through
this
was
back
in
2009.
We
started
the
process
last
fall
of
getting
this
complaint
up
and
going
design.
Workshop
is
a
landscape,
architectural
firm
based
out
of
Raleigh
North
Carolina
or
who
we
are
Contracting
with
to
walk
us
through
the
system-wide,
Parks
and
Recreation
comp
plan,
and
right
now,
through
November
20th,
we'll
have
a
heavy
presence,
heavily
involved
with
public
engagement.
Part
of
this
process
next
slide
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
G
This
is
just
informational
as
an
opportunity
for
us
to
provide.
We
use
this
committee
as
well
as
the
public
with
ways
they
can
get
involved
with
the
comp
plan.
This
is
the
reminder.
This
is
a
part
of
the
organizational
work
plan
for
the
city
and
it
is
a
part
of
the
council
priority
of
neighborhood
resiliency.
B
Okay,
that
was
agenda,
item
number
five.
We
have
two
more
items:
moving
on
to
agenda
item
number
six,
which
is
the
reputation
ordinance
next
steps
and
I
think
Brad
and
deputy
chief,
just
Deputy
police
chief
lamb
are
gonna,
walk
us
through
some
of
that.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chairman,
and
good
morning
again
to
all
of
the
council
members
all
the
staff
and
everyone
watching
I'm
going
to
do
my
best
to
bring
up
the
rear
and
the
presentations
today
and
keep
things
moving
along.
As
Miss
oleman
said,
I'm
going
to
be
presenting
to
you
in
combination
with
assistance
today
from
deputy
chief
Mike
lamb,
an
update
on
the
city's
solicitation
ordinances.
F
I
have
the
first
portion
of
this
and
I'm
going
to
start
with
a
few
key
takeaways
next
slide
very
quickly,
as
I
think.
Everyone
on
this
particular
meeting
is
aware.
The
city
council
recently
adopted
several
technical
amendments
to
the
city's
existing
ordinances.
Those
are
now
officially
in
place
in
the
wake
of
this
staff
has
shifted
its
focus
to
begin,
focusing
primarily
on
providing
a
great
deal
of
public
information
and
insight
around
our
existing
and
now
updated
rules.
F
In
addition
to
this,
APD
primarily
is
focusing
on
collecting
some
data
in
order
to
analyze
the
effectiveness
of
those
recent
amendments.
We're
using
this
to
try
to
identify
Trends
to
see
whether
or
not
any
additional
legislative
action
would
be
necessary.
Now,
today,
you're
going
to
receive
the
first
part
of
that
data
set
with
more
to
come.
It
is
important
to
note
that
at
this
time,
staff
is
not
recommending
any
additional
regulation
or
Council
action
at
this
time.
That
includes
no
recommendation
around
additional
rules
on
roadside
panhandling
or
vehicular
donations.
F
Instead,
we
are
focusing
almost
entirely
on
analyzing
the
effect
of
the
work
you
have
already
done,
with
a
specific
focus
on
our
high
traffic
zones.
Next
slide
a
quick
timeline
overview
of
how
we
got
to
this
point.
As
you
will
recall,
I
came
before
you
in
August
of
this
year
with
several
proposed
technical
amendments.
Now
at
that
meeting,
there
were
also
a
few
substantive
amendments
that
were
discussed.
F
We
decided
thereafter
that
it
was
best
to
bifurcate
that
process
continue
to
move
forward
with
the
technical
amendments
and
take
a
little
more
time
to
analyze
the
effect
and
potential
necessity
or
lack
thereof,
of
those
substantive
amendments
on
September
12th.
Following
your
second
reading
at
the
full
city
council
meeting,
you
adopted
the
first
tranche
of
technical
amendments.
We
did
not
move
forward
with
any
substantive
amendments
at
that
time.
Following
this,
staff
is
now
recommending
that
we
continue
with
the
process
of
analyzing
the
effect
of
the
Amendments
that
you
have
already
made.
F
We
want
to
combine
this
with
some
very
targeted
public
Outreach
to
raise
awareness
for
the
existing
rules.
It
is
our
goal
to
see
whether
or
not
what
you
have
done
so
far
is
sufficient
to
meet
the
public
safety
needs
that
we're
trying
to
achieve
next
slide.
So
what
does
this
look
like?
Our
action
plan
has
a
few
phases.
First
and
foremost,
Kate
is
going
to
be
taking
the
lead
with
providing
a
public
Outreach
campaign
in
order
to
shed
light
on
the
not
only
existence
of,
but
now
updated
solicitation
rules.
F
This
is
going
to
be
in
combination
with
apd's
work
to
continuously
collect
and
analyze
the
data
to
determine
how
effective
we
have
been
to
this
point.
Their
focus
is
primarily
on
our
high
traffic
Zone,
something
that
hasn't
been
updated
in
many
many
years
to
determine,
along
with
this
public
Outreach
effort
for
informational
purposes,
if
we
are
seeing
a
positive
trend
in
the
reduction
of
Public
Safety
incidences.
F
As
far
as
the
potential
substance
of
amendments
originally
discussed
in
this
committee,
staff
is
not
again
recommending
any
regulations
around
roadside
panhandling
that
have
not
already
been
adopted.
This
specifically
includes
no
recommendation
to
add
vehicular
donation
regulation
or
restrictions.
Instead,
we
want
to
focus
primarily
on
that
public
information
Outreach.
We
believe
that
it
was
clear
during
the
technical
amendment
process
that
there
was
a
lack
of
awareness
in
many
aspects
of
our
community
around
the
existing
ordinances
as
they
already
were
written.
F
While
we
focus
on
collecting
data
around
our
high
traffic
zones,
this
committee
is
going
to
receive
some
data
in
just
a
moment
from
deputy
chief
Mike
lamb,
but
we
expect
more
data
to
come
so
that
you
will
have
the
ability
to
analyze
the
trend
or
Direction
that
the
current
amendments
you've
already
made
have
taken
us
now
with
that
I'll
go
to
the
next
slide
and
offer
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have
about
this
General
overview.
F
All
right
hearing,
none
I,
will
graciously
hand
it
over
to
deputy
chief
lamb
to
take
it
on
to
the
next
portion,
but
I
will
be
around
at
the
end
of
the
presentation
to
assist
with
any
questions
you
may
have
at
that
time.
Deputy
chief.
N
Thank
you,
Brad
I,
appreciate
it
so
I'll
be
talking
about
panhandling
and
our
motor
vehicle
collisions
with
pedestrians
and
and
how
those
correlate
to
each
other
next
slide.
So
our
key
takeaway
is
the
technical
amendments
that
were
recently
passed
should
help
clarify
the
rules
regarding
pain,
handling
for
panhandlers,
the
public
and
also
Law
Enforcement
Officers.
Our
next
steps
are
Outreach
education
and
our
data
assessment
of
the
impacts
of
those
technical
amendments.
N
So
we
staff
recommends
not
pursuing
additional
action
at
this
time
related
to
the
roadside,
panhandling,
and
so
that's
again.
Giving
from
from
vehicles
to
folks
that
are
soliciting
staff
is
recommending
a
possible
consideration
of
the
expanding
high
traffic
zones.
So
I'll
in
a
few
slides
I'll
go
over
the
definition
of
high
traffic
zones
and
where
those
traffic
zones
currently
exist.
N
A
panhandling
calls
for
service
have
increased
over
the
past
10
years
with
the
rapid
decline
in
recent
years,
and
that
again,
that
is
likely
due
to
Under
reporting
and
some
areas
known
for
panhandling,
usually
along
commercial
corridors.
There
are
a
high
number
of
pedestrian
motor
vehicle
collisions
So,
based
on
the
volume
of
nuisance
and
collisions.
Current
high
traffic
zones
may
need
to
be
expanded
in
additional
areas,
may
need
to
be
designated
and
we'll
discuss
that
data
here
shortly
next
slide,
please!
N
So
here's
a
10-year
snapshot,
look
at
our
panhandling
calls
for
service.
So
again,
this
is
when
someone
from
the
public
calls
in
to
let
let
us
know
about
a
concern
or
complain
about
panhandling.
So
over
the
last
10
years
we
have
received
11
000
calls
for
service.
Regarding
panhandling,
you
can
see
in
2020
the
number
starts
to
drop
about
mid
2020.
We
started
to
see
a
decline
in
those
calls
for
service,
so
that
graph
pretty
much
shows
the
first
half
of
2020.,
and
then
we
saw
a
sharp
decline
in
2021
and
2022..
N
Given
the
data
for
calls
for
service,
what
it
showed
us
was
that
the
decline
corresponded
with
the
change
in
our
reporting
protocol
for
what
what
calls
for
service
Asheville,
Police
Department
we're
going
to
respond
to
given
our
staffing
challenges.
B
Before
I
was
in
office
that
there
was
a
conversation
in
the
media
where
y'all
were
saying,
look
we're
really
down
staff,
though
there's
certain
things
that
we
are
not
going
to
be
responding
to,
and
that's
the
tie
that
you're
seeing
so
when
y'all
said
we
can't
handle
the
volume
of
all
the
things.
Panhandling
was
one
of
the
things
we
all
be
prioritized
and
that's
where
the
data
connection
was.
N
Yeah
that
that
is
correct.
Whenever
we
had
our
biggest
drop
in
Staffing,
we
did
a
public
Outreach,
a
lot
of
media
on
the
basically
11
different
calls
for
service
that
that
we
would
not
be
responding
to
and
that
that
time
wise
coincides
with
when
we
saw
a
drop
in
reporting
or
in
complaints
for
Panhandle.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Yeah
no
pleasure.
N
N
So
there
were
5
416
panhandling
calls
for
service
and
over
half
occurred
within
100
feet
of
the
highlighted
streets.
So
four
out
of
five
panhandling
calls
for
service
occurred
within
500
feet
of
the
highlighted
areas
which
that
accounts
for
80
percent
of
our
calls
for
service
and
then
the
highest
areas
for
calls
for
service.
The
highest
volume
for
panhandling
were
along
the
north
Tunnel
Road
Corridor,
the
South
Tunnel
Road
Corridor
Patton
Avenue
Brevard
Road
Exit
44
off
of
Interstate
40,
which
is
that
red
splotch
that
you
can
see
on
the
far
left
in
West
Asheville.
O
Yes,
could
you
give
me
an
example
of
the
nature
of
those
calls?
Was
it
like
obstructing
traffic
communication
of
threat
harassment?
Can
you
give
the
the
community
an
idea
of
you
know
why
that
call
was
made.
N
So
yeah,
we
see
a
range
of
reasons
why
why
the
calls
were
made,
so
these
are
generally
the
panhandling,
where
it's
just
designated
as
and
built
by
a
dispatcher
as
a
panhandling
call
for
service
and
the
reason
it's
difficult
to
really
capture
like
a
lot
of
these
numbers,
because
that
we're
missing
some
numbers
also
because
it
may
have
been
dispatched
as
a
civil
disturbance
where,
if
somebody
is
actively
arguing
with
somebody
in
a
car
that
may
have
been
again
categorized
as
a
civil
disturbance.
We
also
had
a
few
that
were
damaged
to
property.
N
Where
someone
refused
to
give
money
and
then
the
person
had
damaged
the
vehicle
in
some
way
and
and
then
there's
there's
there
could
be
a
couple
of
other
different
types
of
calls
for
service
where
it
you
know
it.
Probably
it
goes
to
the
highest
level
of
what
crime
was
committed
or
what
the
complaint
is.
N
So
it
may
be
more
than
just
pendingly,
but
it's.
It
captures
a
variety
of
complaints
being
a
disturbance,
a
damage
or
some
type
of
some
argument
that
took
place
with
panhandling.
So
these
are
generally
just
the
calls
for
service
where
someone
has
called
in
and
said
you
know,
there's
somebody
at
the
intersection
or
on
a
roadway
or
on
a
sidewalk,
that
is,
that
is
pain,
handling
asking
for
money.
N
Okay,
thank
you,
you're
welcome,
so
and
then
last
the
last
two
areas
where
we
have
our
highest
call
ball
here
is
along
Merriman,
Avenue
yeah,
especially
the
shallow
north
south
end
of
Merriman
Avenue
and
then
also
along
Hendersonville
Road
near
Mills
Gap
room
next
slide.
Please.
N
So
this
is
a
a
combination
of
our
panhandling
calls
for
service
and
also
our
pedestrian
crashes.
So
there,
on
the
left
hand,
side.
We
have
our
density
map
of
The
Pedestrian
crashes,
with
panhandling
areas
highlighted,
you
can
see,
The
Pedestrian
crashes
are
there
in
the
red
and
yellow
and
then
our
reported
panhandling
areas
are
highlighted
in
the
green.
Just
like
you
saw
on
the
last
slide.
N
So
one
out
of
every
five
pedestrian
crashes
occur
within
25
feet.
That's
a
small
area
of
a
reported
panhandling
location.
Three
out
of
four
pedestrian
crashes
happen
within
500
feet
of
a
panhandling
location
which
equals
75
percent
of
our.
Our
total
calls.
So
downtown
has
the
highest
concentrations
of
pedestrian
crashes
in
the
city,
but
it
only
accounts
for
15
of
all
pedestrian
crashes.
N
Several
areas
have
both
panhandling
and
pedestrian
crashes
over
light,
such
as
Patton
Avenue,
Haywood,
Road,
Merriman
Avenue
and
the
North
and
South
Tunnel
Road
and
exit
44.,
and
there
are
also
areas
within
the
pedestrian
crashes
that
have
little
or
no
reports
of
panhandling
such
as
Biltmore
Village,
the
VA
Hospital
area
and
then
also
Hendersonville
Road
near
near
Mills.
Gap.
N
So
now
we're
going
to
look
at
our
what
our
current
high
traffic
zones
are.
So
the
current
high
traffic
zone
is
our
Central
business
district
downtown.
It's
got
the
the
outline
there
and
in
bold
and
there's
also
our
our
calls
for
service
when
it
comes
to
panhandling,
with
149
being
in
that
40
Merriman
Avenue
Area,
51,
Merriman
Avenue.
That's
where
the
240
West
off-ramp
comes
into
into
Merriman,
Avenue
and
they're
close
to
the
Shell
station,
and
then
you.
B
N
That
was
a
man
riding
a
skateboard
that
was
struck
about
multiple
Vehicles
riding
in
the
roadway,
so
yeah.
That
was
that
that
Collision
that
happened
there,
and
then
we
have
the
next
biggest
panhandling
calls
for
services
there
along
the
Biltmore
Avenue
close
to
the
Hilliard
intersection
there,
or
actually
that's
a
little
further
of
this.
N
The
Eagle
Market
Street
Eagle
Market
intersection
with
with
Biltmore
Avenue
so
and
then,
on
the
right
hand,
side
you
can
see
where
our
pedestrian
collisions
have
occurred
throughout
the
throughout
the
downtown
area,
with
11
being
in
that
west
of
that
Patton,
Avenue,
Corridor,
west
of
Richard
Park,
so
most
pedestrian
crashes
within
the
central
business
district
have
occurred
near
hot
traffic
intersections
with
some
limited
correlation
to
panhandling.
N
It
may
be
suggested
to
extend
Zone
one
boundary
North
into
that
Merriman
Avenue
area,
where
you
see
that
149
calls
for
service
in
that
cello
North
Area,
because
that
is
a
high
concentration
of
where
our
panhandling
calls
for
service
are
next
slide.
Please
so.
L
N
Our
second
high
traffic
Zone,
which
is
our
Biltmore
Village
area
and
again
that's
highlighted
there
in
bold
and
we're
looking
at
the
panhandling
calls
for
service.
Most
of
our
calls
come
in
at
the
meadow
meadow
Road
builtmore
intersection,
which
is
right
there
by
El,
Chapala
Wendy's
and
the
the
city
stop
gas
station.
The
next
actually,
the
the
highest
that
we
have
within
the
high
traffic
zone.
Is
there
close
to
the
McDonald's
Biltmore
State
entrance
area,
but
those
those
are
our
two
two
largest
concentrations.
N
So
that's
another
place
where,
possibly
that
that
zone
could
be
slightly
extended,
North
to
capture
that
and
then
there's
limited
pedestrian
collisions
also
within
that
area.
Again
up
at
that
intersection,
where
the
28
panhandling
calls
for
service
are
and
then
spread
out
there
in
Biltmore,
Village
and
just
north
of
Biltmore
Village
next
slide,
please
so
we're
looking
at
the
consideration
of
high
traffic
zones,
we'll
look
at
the
the
current
ordinance
and
and
what
it
what
it
prohibits.
So
the
first
block
there
is
currently
what
is
prohibited
all
across
the
city
of
Asheville.
N
So
that
is
it
that
the
ordinance
prohibits
the
acts
of
solicitation
based
under
certain
conditions,
such
as
physical
or
aggressive
behavior,
location
time
or
under
the
influence
of
alcohol
or
a
controlled
substance,
so
basically
prohibits
anyone
from
soliciting
for
money,
but
it's
based
again,
if
they're
aggressive
under
the
influence
of
a
controlled
substance
or
alcohol
or
their,
you
know
they're,
physically
or
verbally
aggressive.
N
So
the
next
bullet
shows
the
restrictions
for
what
our
current
high
traffic
zones
are.
So
it's
it's
in
addition
to
the
restrict
restrictions
in
the
bullet
point
above
it's
unlawful
for
any
person
to
verbally
beg,
solicit
or
Panhandle
within
any
high
traffic
zone.
So
this
is
absent
of
that
under
the
influence
behavior,
the
aggressive
behavior.
N
N
So
there
are
currently
only
two
areas
designated
as
as
high
traffic
zones,
which
is
portions
of
the
central
business
district
and
also
the
Biltmore
Village
historic.
In
this
group,
all
right
next
slide,
please
so
consideration
of
additional
high
traffic
zones
Council
identified
possible
areas
that
should
be
considered
for
designated
high
traffic
zones,
which
is
the
area
of
Haywood
Road,
West,
Asheville,
and
also
the
river
Arts
District.
N
N
So
our
next
steps
are
to
assess
what
worked
well
with
Outreach,
with
the
help
of
Kate
and
education
of
technical
Amendment
changes
over
the
next
few
months,
staff
will
be
collecting
and
analyzing
data
to
determine
possible
areas
to
extend
the
high
traffic
Zone
designation
next
slide,
please
so
our
key
takeaways.
The
technical
amendment,
should
help
clarify
rules
regarding
panhandling
for
panhandlers
the
public
and
law
enforcement
officers.
N
N
Pan
Airline
calls
for
service
have
increased
over
the
past
10
years
with
a
rapid
decline
in
recent
years,
due
to
Under
reporting
in
some
areas
known
for
panhandling,
usually
in
Long
commercial
corridors.
There
are
a
hot
number
of
pedestrian
motor
vehicle.
Collisions
based
on
the
volume
of
nuisance
and
collisions.
Current
high
traffic
zones
may
need
to
be
expanded
in
additional
areas
may
need
to
be
designated
next
slide.
N
All
right,
thank
you
all
very
much
and
that's
the
the
end
of
my
portion
of
the
presentation.
A
B
Y'all
are
saying
that
staff
recommends
like
continuing
to
work
on
this
and
monitor
data
for
potentially
expanding
the
high
traffic
zones,
which
will
take
stash
kind
and
effort
and
I
guess
what
comes
up
for
me
is
I'm
hearing
that
potential
to
spend
more
time.
There
is
knowing
that
staff
time
is
our
scarcity
resource
in
the
police
department.
I
kind
of
Wonder
is.
B
Let's
continue
putting
time
into
researching
this
particular
policy
thing
I
think
that
the
updates
are
non-substantive
ones
that
we
did
in
September,
make
sense
and
I
think
that's
progress
on
behalf
of
the
community,
but
I
have
a
little
bit
of
a
hesitancy
to
feel
excited
about
continuing
to
research,
this
particular
policy
area
without
knowing
what
are
the
other
things
that
we
could
be
working
on,
because
we
haven't
had
that
conversation
at
the
committee
like
what
is
that
strategy
conversation?
B
There's
updating
this
ordinance,
what
other
ordinances
could
should
we
be
looking
at
what
other
policy
things
in
our
Arena?
It
just
kind
of
feels
like
there's
a
there's,
a
piece
of
that
this
puzzle
missing
that
we
as
elected,
could
be
weighing
in
on
and
and
contributing
to.
That
makes
me
hesitant
to
want
to
get
more
information
on
expanding
the
high
traffic
zones,
because
I'm
I'm
just
not
sure
if
it's
the
highest
use
of
our
time,
because
I
haven't
really
been
presented
with
other,
like
policy
things
that
we
could
consider
to
reach.
B
But
I
I
have
an
interest
in
that
you
know,
and
so
that
might
be
like.
Can
we
have
that
conversation
in
the
staff
time
be
put
into
here
are
several
different
places
we
could
put
more
time
into
here
are
several
different
policy
places
that
could
help
us
reach
our
goal?
That
I
might
be
more
interested
in
than
specifically
data
monitoring
of
this
all
of
the
area
so
curious,
if
that
you
know
what
other
counselors
think
of
that
and
then
stand
directly
off
without
a
comment.
E
Let
me
go
back
to
the
last
slide
before
the
question
saw.
It.
E
Okay,
yes,
and
what
I
want
to
ask
you
after
the
lamb
was?
Basically
you
were
saying
that
when
you
have
the
areas
that
some
areas
of
panhandling
usually
allow
the
commercial
corridors,
there
were
high
number
of
pedestrian
motor
vehicle
provision.
So
I
wanted
to
sort
of
get
so
you're
saying
that
this
is
when
the
vehicles
hit.
Pedestrians
is
that
is
that
what
you're
saying
there.
N
Yes,
that's
correct
it.
It
coincides
with
where
Vehicles
hit
pedestrians
and
then
it's
it's,
not
the
the
cyclist
data,
but
there
are
some
like
other
motor
b
or
motor
conveyances
like
skateboards
or
scooters
and
stuff
like
that.
But
those
those
are
very
small,
and
so
the
vast
majority
of
it
is
when
a
vehicle
you
know,
hits
a
hits
a
pedestrian.
N
You
know
another
thing
to
consider
too,
is
you
know
we've
we've
had
we've
had
collisions
where,
like,
for
example,
we
had
one
on
Sweeten,
Creek
Road,
where
I'm
sorry,
the
alpha
ran
from
Interstate
40
they're
on
Sweden
Creek,
by
where
the
new
Mission
mental
health
place
is
where
the
the
light
turned
green.
The
car
started
to
go
and
then
stopped
abruptly
to
to
give
money
and
then
the
vehicle
behind
it.
You
know
colliding
with
the
back
because
it
didn't
slow
down.
So
we
do
have
have
those
as
incidents
that
have
occurred.
N
E
Yeah
and
the
reason
I
was
concerned
about
that,
because
when
we
talk
about
asphalt
having
the
highest
rate
of
pedestrian
fatalities
and
things
that
we
can
do,
I
think
it
may
be
necessary
if
we
actually
sort
of
dab
into
as
to
why,
as
opposed
to
so
you're
saying
that
we
need
to
adjust
certain
things
on
our
streets
to
help
with
the
safety
issue.
We
need
to
know
really.
What
are
the
issues
and
I
think
that
that
to
me
was
just
amazing.
E
I
would
like
to
know
that,
because,
if
we're
talking
about
the
high
pedestrian
dance
or
whatever
in
Asheville,
whatever
I
think
the
more
information
we
have
is
why
those
occurring
I
think
that's
good
to
know,
because
it
could
help
us
make
safety
decisions
and
things
that
decisions
that
we're
making
as
a
council
for
the
community.
N
You
know,
and
that's
a
that's
a
great
point
because,
and
you
know,
looking
at
The
Pedestrian
fatalities
that
we've
had
over
the
last
few
years.
We've
looked
at
the
circumstances
involved
in
those
fatalities
and
and
unfortunately,
probably
about
62
percent
of
them
involve
some
kind
of
impairing
substances.
N
You
know
the
others
were
folks
that,
were
you
know,
obeying
traffic
laws
and
and
tragically
lost
their
life
due
to
due
to
the
set
of
set
of
circumstances,
but
a
large
portion
of
them
had
to
do
with
impairment
either
on
The
Pedestrian
or
on
the
driver.
E
O
Deputy
chief,
could
you
answer
Maggie's
question
about
how
much
time
and
effort
it'll
take
to
kind
of
follow,
follow
the
data
Trends?
Is
it
going
to
take
extra
work
or
it's
like
I'm
with
her
like?
If
it's
going
to
take
a
extra
time,
that's
unnecessary
I
would
rather
prioritize
focus
when
it
comes
to
Public
Safety
right
now,
and
this
might
not
be
at
the
top
of
our
list.
As
a
committee.
N
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
consideration.
On
the
you
know,
the
best
use
of
resources
and
staff
time
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
take
additional
staff
time
for
us,
because
it's
data
that
we
already
collect.
You
know
it's.
It's
the
public.
Making
those
calls
for
service
for
panhandling
or
is
it
related
to
panhandling
officers,
are
already
going
to
take
that
accident
report
or
the
incident
report
or
issue
some
type
of
enforcement.
So
it's
it's
staff
time.
That's
already
committed
to
those
things.
Is
you
know
it
would?
P
When
I'm
hearing
from
committee
is
you
know
we
when
we
started
this
effort,
this
was
an
effort
related
to
solicitation
and
what
we,
what
we
may
just
want
to
do
is
just
not
do
have
any
movement
on
it:
either
the
high
traffic
zones
or
the
roadside
pet
handling,
and
let's
just
take
a
break
and
just
focus
on
the
education
piece
of
the
technical
changes
and
recommendations
that
have
been
made
and
we'll
come
back
to
the
committee
December
January
and
provide
you
all
with
some
data
with
with
just
our
our
education.
P
We
can
also
take
a
look
at
some
of
the
additional
data
that
we
we
might
be
able
to
collect
related
to
crashes.
P
If
there
there
have
been
any
significant
increase,
but
I
I
do
I
do
think
that
maybe
we
can,
we
can
just
pause
and
just
again
look
at
the
impact
of
the
technical
changes
and
I'm
hoping
that
that
that
will
be
oh,
adequate,
we're
hoping
before
we
do
any
additional
policy
analysis
or
changes
with
with
that
be
okay
with
you
all
we,
you
know
we
were
just
trying
to
close
the
loop,
but
I
think
you
you're
right.
P
E
All
are
comfortable
okay
with
that,
but
what
would
it
take
just
to
actually,
as
far
as
like
you
said,
it's
not
going
to
take
a
whole
lot
of
extra
work,
but
just
adding
another
column
in
the
data
as
to
why
these
things
happen
that
that's
real
simple.
We.
E
B
We
could
do
that
I
would
yeah.
That
sounds
good
for
this
ordinance.
I
would
also
be
interested
in
having
a
broader
conversation
of.
Are
there
other
ordinances
that
we
should
be
looking
at
to
reach
our
goal,
because
you
know
y'all
are
the
staff
who
understand
how
we
reach
the
goal
that
Council
fit
and
I
understand
that
you
know
program
expansion
is
something
that
we
talk
about,
but
you
know
some
of
that
has
to
be
tied
to
the
budget,
we're
all
really
thrilled
with
the
community
responder
program.
I.
B
Think
that
has
been
such
a
success
in
the
community
and
I.
Think
many
of
us
are
excited
about
expanding
it
and
we
have
to
have
that
conversation
around
resources,
but
I
would
be
curious.
You
know,
if
you
know,
if
several
Public
Safety
departments
are
sitting
down,
he
said:
wouldn't
it
be
great
if
this
law
was
updated,
so
we
could
do
our
job
better
I'd
love
to
know
what
that
list
is
and
how
the
opportunity
kind
of
delivery.
Is
it
worth
us
exploring
further
from
the
policy
standpoint.
P
O
Want
to
put
like
my
definition
to
what
I'm
hearing
a
pause
to
be
like
the
pause
in
my
opinion,
is
to
gather
more
information
to
analyze
the
effect
of
these
technical
amendments,
so
that
we
can
determine
where
expansion
is
best
and
I'm.
Saying
this
because
I
I
know
this
subject
has
gotten
a
lot
of
attention
and
scrutiny
and
I
don't
want
to
pull
back
on
the
idea
that
I,
believe
generosity
in
our
community
is
often
exploited,
I've,
seen
it
and
I've
heard
of
it.
O
You
know,
and
in
the
area
of
panhandling
and
solicitation.
That
is
a
area
where
our
generosity
can
be
lifted,
but
it's
also
an
area
in
our
city
where
it
has
also
been
abused.
O
D
B
All
right,
thanks
for
the
presentation,
Brad
and
Mike.
Thanks
for
the
dialogue
we
can
move
on
to
our
last
and
final
agenda
item,
which
is
the
closing
round
of
public
comment.
Item
number
seven
Allison:
do
we
have
any
Collins?
No.