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C
Good
morning,
everyone
I
am
chair
sage
turner
and
I'd
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
november
16th
housing
and
community
development
committee
meeting.
All
council
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually
for
those
of
you
out
there
with
us
today
welcome
to
help
our
audience
follow
along
I'll
state.
Each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud
we're
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city's
website.
We
also
have
an
option
for
the
public
to
listen
live
by
phone.
That
number
is
855-925-2801.
C
C
One
855-925-2801
meeting
code,
nine,
seven,
nine
one
when
you
call
your
phone
will
be
muted
and
you
will
hear
the
meeting
live
at
this
point.
Callers
will
hear
for
more
options.
Please
press
star,
pressing
star
three
will
allow
callers
to
continue
to
listen,
live
and
join
a
speaker
queue.
That's
star
three
and
each
caller
will
have
three
minutes
to
speak
as
a
general
reminder
to
everyone
participating
today.
If
you
could
stay
on
mute
until
you
need
to
speak
or
be
called
upon.
C
If
you
need
to,
you
can
raise
your
hand
and
now
we'll
create
a
stack,
and
we
can
call
on
folks
as
we
go
all
right.
So
now,
I'm
going
to
go
through
a
roll
call
and
introduce
all
the
committee
members
and
staff
who
are
participating
with
us
virtually
as
I
call
your
name,
please
unmute
and
say
quick
hello.
Vice
mayor
shanika
smith,
good
morning,
councilwoman
antoinette
mosley
good
morning.
C
C
Good
morning,
all
right,
I
think
I
got
everyone.
Okay,
we
are
going
to
start
on
the
agenda
item
number
one
which
is
approval
of
the
minutes.
Hello
councilwoman.
Did
you
get
a
chance
to
review?
Are
there
any
changes
comments
to
the
actions
and
not?
May
I
get
a
motion
so
move
a
second
okay,
we'll
do
a
roll
call
vote
vice
mayor
smith,
hi,
woman
mosley,
I
myself
saged
her.
I
minutes
have
passed
okay,
we're
going
to
move
on
to
item
number
two,
which
is
community
development,
cdbg
and
cv
and
homeless
updates.
C
D
Would
be
great,
we
have
a
a
little
bit
of
a
surprise
with
our
home,
our
affordable
housing
calculator.
We
wanted
to
share
really
quick,
but
just
a
couple
things
on
community
development
updates
to
run
through.
We
did
update
the
housing
trust
fund
balance.
We
usually
do
that
quarterly,
so
that
has
been
updated
in
that
link.
D
We
are
seeing
some
more
interest
in
oak
hill
and
then
some
updates
a
few
more
things.
We've
completed
our
cdbg
and
home
monitoring,
so
that
is
done.
We've
cleared
that
we
have
one
group
that
we're
still
working
with
there.
We've
had
our
agreement
meetings
for
the
21
22
applications,
so
we're
meeting
individually
with
our
partners
to
go
over
those
agreements
and
scopes
work.
That's
going
great,
we're
learning
a
lot
and
getting
together
with
our
partners
our
environmental
review
process.
If
you
all
remember,
we
were
being
monitored
by
hud
on
that.
D
D
So,
just
a
bunch
of
those
kind
of
like
ad
mini
things
that
we're
always
trying
to
get
to
that
are
kind
of
coming
to
a
head
which
is
great
and
then
last
but
not
least,
we
wanted
to
let
everybody
know
that
the
hud
applications
for
funding
those
are
going
to
come
out.
They
should
that
application
should
be
released
on
december
13th
give
or
take
with
a
due
date
of
february
4th.
We
will
release
that.
That's
the
fiscal
year,
2023
2223
applications
for
hud
funding.
D
We
will
be
asking
applicants
to
focus
on
the
highest
party
needs
in
the
consolidated
plan.
The
consolidated
plan
is
carried
out
through
those
annual
action
plans
and
then
reported
on
in
our
caper
the
consolidated
annual
performance
and
evaluation
report.
So
this
applications
will
focus
on
those
priority
needs
new
rental
housing
at
or
below
60
percent.
Ami
special
needs
housing,
creating
sustainable
jobs
for
low-income
persons,
job
training
and
placement,
developing
multimodal
transportation
services
that
support,
affordable
housing
and
ending
homelessness
like
last
year's
application
or
last
year's
process.
D
Applications
that
are
incomplete
are
ineligible,
won't
be
moved
forward,
but
we're
getting
those
out
on
december
13th.
We're
really
excited
about
that.
We're
reviewing
that
application
process,
and
then
last
but
not
least,
we
do
have
something
to
showcase
which
the
team
has
developed:
an
affordable
housing
calculator
so
working
in
partnership
with
it
and
christina
harris.
Who
is
our
city
coordinator?
D
Who
is
amazing,
who
took
all
these
thoughts
in
my
brain
and
was
able
to
work
with
me
in
partnership
to
develop
a
calculator
that
will
be
on
our
website
as
another
resource
tool,
so
people
can
take
a
moment
to
put
in
their
income,
actually
look
at
the
real
taxes
in
asheville
and
buncombe
county
and
then
be
able
to
show
folks
what
they
can
afford.
While
this
is
a
really
important
resource
exercise,
please
know
that
our
team
realizes,
like
most
folks
in
our
community
homeownership,
is
difficult
at
the
moment
to
say
the
least.
D
But
if
this
is
a
really
personal
guide
to
asheville,
we
feel
like
it
could
be
a
good
place
to
start
and
christina.
If
you
want
to
share
your
screen
and
walk
through
that,
that
would
be
great
just
for
a
few
minutes,
and
we
would
appreciate
that
time.
Councilwoman
turner,
just
to
showcase
it'll,
go
live
next
week.
G
Good
morning,
everyone
can
you
see
my
screen?
Yes,
okay!
Is
it?
Should
I
make
the
font
bigger,
or
is
this
a
good?
I
think
it's
good,
okay,
perfect!
Thank
you
paul
for
that
introduction
and,
yes,
we
have
been
working
on
a
affordable
housing
calculator.
G
You
know
strongly
with
our
I.t
department,
mainly
rick
barley,
thanks
to
him,
he
really
kind
of
constructed
this
and,
like
paul
mentioned
before,
took
you
know
our
ideas
and
was
able
to
actually
bring
that
to
life.
So
really
really
grateful.
G
So
I'm
just
going
to
scroll
up
here,
we
do
have
like
a
little
introduction
for
the
home
ownership
calculator
as
you
scroll
down
here,
the
whoever
is
interacting
with
this
affordable
housing
calculator
will
be
able
to
input
any
of
the
information
they
would
like
to.
So
we
have
the
categories
here
of
gross
annual
household
income,
a
household
size.
We
could
say
four
people
home
price.
G
We
could
do
that
around
273,
the
down
payment
amount,
which
is
roughly
61
000,
then
mortgage
rate
of
3.7,
and
once
we
input
that
information
we
can
hit
this
button
here.
That
says,
click
to
update
results,
and
this
will
really
give
a
good
overview
of
what
someone
is
looking
to
potentially
afford
in
the
asheville
area.
Now,
with
kind
of
that
information
being
said
and
stated,
we
are
working
with
a
loan
specialist
to
kind
of
help,
get
some
of
this
terminology
correct
when
it
comes
to
this
calculator
and
then
also
when
it
comes
to.
G
You
know
the
situation
here
in
asheville
north
carolina,
so
this
is
still
kind
of
a
work
in
progress,
but
you
know
we
are
making
headway
and
we
do
have
a
meeting
with
him
today
to
go
over
some
of
the
details
here,
but
moving
back
to
the
calculator
once
someone
enters
in
the
information
on
this
left
hand,
side
we'll
pop
over
on
the
right
hand,
side
and
look
at
the
estimated
monthly
payment
which
they
should
be
looking
to
do
about
one
thousand
three
hundred
and
thirty
three
dollars
and
as
we
kind
of
look
down
we'll,
do
a
general
overview
and
then
a
detail
overview
of
what
exactly
a
citizen
should
be
looking
to
afford.
D
The
part
we're
working
on
with
paul
heathman,
who
is
on
the
a
hack
committee,
is
just
those
little
individual
eyes,
those
information
dots
so
that
we
really
want
to
make
sure
that
that
language
is
concise
and
accurate,
and
then
the
estimated
monthly
payment
would
be
green
for
good
yellow,
for
you
might
have
a
caution
and
red
that
you're
overburdened
and
this
kind
of
goes
along
with
our
appendix
one
and
appendix
ii
that
we've
developed
as
well
as
part
of
our
resource
guide.
D
But
what
we
liked
about
this
was
it
really
focuses
those
those
taxes,
you're
going
to
pay,
are
asheville
tax
rates,
and
so
it's
something
for
us
to
put
out
there
and
again,
just
to
reiterate,
we
do
realize
home
ownership
is
very
difficult
for
our
community,
and
but
we,
if
this
is
a
start,
that
people
can
start
figuring
out
what
they
can
afford.
We
feel
like
it's
a
step
one
and
it's
we
add
it
to
our
resource
guide
by
wednesday
of
next
week.
C
It's
a
great
tool,
thank
you
to
everyone,
who's
been
working
on
it.
I
think
it
really
helps
flush
out
just
basics.
For
folks,
I'm
wondering
something
came
up.
You
know
we
get
this
question
a
lot
in
the
community.
What
is
ami?
What's
it
mean?
Why
do
we
target
60
80.?
I
wonder
if,
since
folks
are
going
to
designate
their
income,
if
it
could
just
have
another
little
info
there
of
what
that
puts
them
at
what
percentage
of
80
or
what
percentage
of
ami
you
know.
So
they
know
where
they
sit
in
that
range.
F
C
It's
in
our
documents
too,
and
for
those
of
you
listening
at
home.
These
all
of
these
tables
and
information
are
a
part
of
our
community
development
updates
which
are
listed
on
our
website
and
have
a
lot
of
information
about
all
projects,
but
also
keeps
things
like
the
housing
trust
fund
balance
and
this
particular
information
which
we
update
every
year
from
hud.
F
C
C
H
Have
a
couple
of
questions
well,
an
acknowledgement
of
the
information
that
was
contained
in
our
packet.
Relating
to
the
questions
I
asked
for
last
meeting.
Do
you
want
me
to
move
forward
with
those
or
do
you
want
to.
C
That'd
be
great,
let's
just
give
folks
the
place
of
where
we're
at
so
we
have
three
updates
and
I
believe
the
one
you
are
talking
about
is
under
yes
item
two
community
development
updates
doesn't
say
cove,
it
doesn't
say
cdbg
that
document.
Okay,.
C
Yes,
so
that
would
be
on
page
looks
like
yeah.
H
So,
first
of
all,
thank
you
for
the
information.
Just
as
a
refresher.
You
recall
in
the
last
meeting
I
requested
a
a
couple
of
things
and
the
committee
indicated
that
it
wanted
to
get
an
update.
So
we
asked
for
the
demographic
makeup
of
developers,
we've
partnered
with
or
incentivized
over
the
past
five
years
and
the
demographic
makeup
of
the
tenants
that
we
partnered
of
the
developments
we
partnered
with.
H
I
also
was
interested
in
incomes
for
african
americans
in
our
community.
I
saw
it
30
percent
50
ami
60
ami
80,
because
I
wanted
to
see
where
members
of
the
african-american
community
fit
in
as
related
to
the
community
as
a
whole.
Not
surprisingly,
and
thank
you
janice
for
the
legal
discussion.
H
C
So
I
think
we
did,
the
only
one
I
can
think
of
that
was
african-american
is
still
yet
to
be
built.
It
was
recently
approved.
It
was
the
gentleman
that
wanted
to
build
the
12
homes
and
got
a
1.2
or
point
three
million
dollar
funding,
and
then.
C
H
And
I
understand
how
we
would
not
by
law,
be
able
to
require.
Did
we
inquire
from
the
folks
that
we've
incentivized
whether
they
would
willingly
give
us
the
demographic
information
if
they
had
it
gosh?
I.
H
D
No,
we
have
not
inquired.
We
did
the
initial
research
and
then
added
that
new
section
of
of
count
of
hcd
council
requests
so
working
with
janus
and
getting
that
language
and
said
bringing
it
back
today
to
see
you
know
any
direction
from
hcd
council
on
what
they
wanted
to
do.
But
we
have
not
taken
a
step
forward
to
inquire
about
voluntarily
submitting
that
information.
H
And
going
to
the
comments
relating
to
the
bowen
report,
I
appreciate
that
that
data
isn't
available.
So
perhaps
if
there
is
an
enterprising
journalist
out
there
who
could
help
us,
that
would
be
greatly
appreciated.
H
Speaking
of
dr
mullins,
the
state
of
black
asheville,
and
I
believe
I
saw
an
article
that
joel
burgess
from
the
actual
citizen
times
wrote
a
few
years
ago
where
he
laid
out
the
difference
in
incomes
and
if
the
trend
holds
true
and
I'm
inclined
to
believe
that
the
trend
has
probably
worsened
since
that
time,
considering
50
ami,
I
am,
I
feel,
confident
in
assuming
that
more
than
50
of
the
african-american
population
is
below
that
50
percent
ami
at
least
that's
what
it
has
been
in
the
most
recent
past.
H
H
So
while
the
policy
on
its
face
may
not
appear
to
be
harmful,
it
triggers
legal
concerns
for
me,
and
that
is
why
I
proposed
that
we
handle
319
biltmore
the
site
of
the
old
matthews
ford
dealership
a
little
differently.
I
saw
it
as
a
way
to
infuse
equity
in
pretty
short
order
into
a
a
particular
location
that
would
be
important
to
the
african-american
community
as
it
turns
out.
H
The
majority
of
the
council
did
not
agree
with
that
approach,
but
I
will
take
an
opportunity
to
thank
vice
mayor
smith
for
supporting
that
opportunity,
as
the
only
one
frankly
who
expressed
support
repeatedly
so
and
in
smaller
discussions,
I
realized
that
some
of
our
colleagues
were
a
little
uncertain
about
the
specificity
that
I
suggested
for
members
of
the
black
community.
H
Some
said
that
there
was
nothing
in
our
policy
that
was
being
violated
by
what
was
proposed
initially
at
319
and
another
council.
Member
mentioned,
you
know,
fear
of
even
going
to
jail
as
a
result
of
moving
forward
in
the
way
I
proposed.
H
So
my
thought
today
is.
I
feel,
as
though
and
based
on
my
legal
experience,
that
if
we
continue
down
the
path,
we're
going
we're
opening
ourselves
up
to
substantial
disparate
impact
lawsuits,
because
the
proportion
of
the
developers
that
we
agree
to
or
who
is
being
housed
does
not
read
is
not
readily
available
to
african
americans.
H
I
was
in
a
meeting
and
the
last
time
actually,
I
spoke
with
paul.
I
was
in
a
meeting
with
a
developer
and
the
developer
was
expressing
angst.
That
was
not
surprising
to
me
because,
frankly,
every
time
I
have
a
conversation
with
a
developer,
there's
angst
and
partially
because
there's
a
feeling
that
they
don't
know
where
we're
going
in
our
with
our
policies
almost
like.
H
We
agree
on
a
whim,
and
so
in
that
meeting
I
said,
based
on
our
results,
perhaps
we
should
enter
into
a
moratorium
as
it
relates
to
who
we
incentivize
and
how
we
move
forward
with
affordable
housing,
because
the
way
we're
doing
it
now
does
not
seem
to
be
working.
I
even
discussed
the
possibility,
with
this
developer,
of
coming
up
with
a
design,
much
like
I
requested
for
319,
meaning
a
place
where
there
is
actual
home
ownership
available.
H
So
I
would
like
to
see
if
other
colleagues
would
be
interested
in
having
a
discussion
about
a
moratorium
in
our
upcoming
meetings.
E
And
council,
if
I
could
interject
and
just
understand
the
last
time
that
we
had
a
moratorium,
it
was
around
a
zoning
issue
related
to
hotels,
and
so,
if
we
are
going
to
discuss
the
moratorium,
because
that,
obviously,
as
most
of
you
know
that
this
is
a
legal
thing
that
will
impact
us
not
just
policy
perspective,
we
need
to
have
some
way
of
saying.
E
You
know
what
we
are
going
to
do
as
a
result
of
kind
of
this,
so
to
speak,
more
moratorium,
and
maybe
that
isn't
yeah.
The
purpose.
H
Would
be
to
come
up
with
a
policy
that
is
not
in
its
impact,
discriminatory.
E
H
C
Think
it's
perhaps
a
little
bit
yeah
it's
on
the
same
page
for
a
second,
because
we're
getting
a
little
off
the
updates,
and
I
appreciate
this
discussion
very
much
because
I
think
we
all
have
the
same
goal
of
impacting
those
who
need
it
the
most.
What
I'm
getting
a
little
worried
about
here
is
my
research.
Brain
is
coming
on,
so
we're
making
asking
questions
and
moving
on
thoughts
that
we
don't
know
necessarily
to
be
factual.
We
need
we
have
a
lot
of
discovery
here,
which.
C
Right
so
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
here
is
maybe
come
up
with
some
key
data
that
we
would
need
to
even
be
able
to
have
these
discussions.
Like
I
mean
I
get
that
you
request
it,
but
we
the
answer
so
far,
was
we
don't
necessarily
have
all
that.
So
it
sounds
like
we
need
someone
to
study
bowen.
We
need
to
better
understand.
C
H
C
So
we're
saying
you
know,
there's
a
possibility
that
those
that
need
the
help
are
being
overlooked
because
people
are
taking
the
high
end
of
the
policy.
So
sounds
like
more
discussion
for
sure
whether
or
not
that
happens
in
hdd
where
maybe
goes
back
to
a
hack.
Even
what
do
you
think
about
that?
Councilman
mosley?
Because
a
hack
is
your
liaison?
I
prefer.
H
C
Right,
understandably,
okay,
as
far
as
a
moratorium,
I
think
there
are
legal
components
to
that
and
land
use.
I
also
would
hesitate
to
put
a
moratorium
on
anything,
that's
producing
affordability
in
such
a
dire
time,
but
I
think
that
possibly
both
could
be
concurrent.
That's
obviously
not
up
to
me.
So
let's
have
a
group
discussion
about
it
and
I.
H
We're
improving
the
condition
for
this
group
without
necessarily
improving
that
group,
and
then
the
disparity
gets
greater
and
greater.
So
the
longer
we
continue
with
the
policy
is
actually
resulting
in
more
harm
for
the
group
that,
from
an
equitable
standpoint,
needs
the
most
help,
and-
and
so
that's
my
thought
process
as
relates
to
that.
So
again,
we
could
continue
to
go
forward
and
forward
and
forward
and
perpetuating
more
and
more
harm.
If
that's
the
desire
of
the
committee.
D
So
yeah
and
quickly,
hopefully
I
can
just
offer
some
a
bit
of
clarity
and
thank
you,
councilwoman
mosley,
for
these
conversations,
because
they're
really
really
important
for
our
community
a
couple
quick
things
regarding
our
policy
which
really
at
this
point,
the
fully
updated
our
fee
rebates
in
luigi.
D
They
are
focused
on
individuals
and
families
at
or
below
80
ami,
with
half
of
those
units
accepting
housing
choice
vouchers.
So
that's
a
requirement
for
those
vouchers.
In
the
in
the
studies,
I've
seen
a
majority
of
the
individuals
and
families
who
hold
vouchers
are
african-american,
and
so
that's
our
policies
move
forward.
D
We
are
hoping
that
we'll
start
seeing
data
that
shows
that
we
are
not
only
looking
at
the
area
needed
incomes
but
in
particular
our
partnership
to
move
those
housing
choice,
vouchers
that
currently
sit
on
the
street
with
no
one
accepting
them
and
so
we're
trying
to
incentivize
that
with
our
policies
as
well
as
hopefully
have
a
larger
reach
into
our
community,
particularly
like
we
spoke
last
week
about
the
marketing
efforts.
We
are
now
requiring
our
folks
to
do
with
the
immediate
businesses
and
the
churches
and
the
activities
in
the
immediate.
D
Like
half
mile
radius,
that
said
for
solutions
purposes,
we
are
going
to
be
working
or
put
out
an
rfp
for
the
research
we
need
to
do
around
the
home
arpa
funds
and
it's
also
spring
of
2022
it's
time
for
us
to
do
our
mid-year
bowen
update
for
asheville
and
buncombe
county.
So
we
can
get
data.
Perhaps
for
more
of
these
specific
things,
you
are
looking
at
the
only
thing
I
noted
in
the
in
the
update
document.
Councilwoman
mostly
was.
Apparently
the
data
collected
in
the
2020
census
was
not
great.
D
However,
by
partnering
someone,
I
think
that
they
can
perhaps
find
a
way
to
dig
better
and
last
but
not
least,
we
do
recognize
the
hud.
Amis
are
the
overall
asheville
region,
but
when
we
take
our
meetings
out
into
the
community,
we
are
told
more
often
than
not
that
those
salaries
don't
represent
their
community.
D
We
do
need
to
hold
it
to
some
standard
like
the
hud
standard,
but
we
do
hear
you
on
that
that
the
community
has
told
us
that
as
well,
which,
which
is
why
we're
always
trying
to
figure
out
in
our
policies,
ways
to
incentivize
all
the
amis
vouchers
at
60,
ami,
those
individuals
and
families.
Last
thought
I
promise
are
at
30,
50,
60
ami,
so
we're
hitting
all
those
amis
and
and
that
hopefully,
maybe
paints
a
little
bit
of
picture,
but
I
think
there's
some
solutions
here
in
the
next
bone
report.
H
And
so
I
appreciate
that,
and
I
appreciate
your
hard
work
and
I'm
certainly
glad
that
you
brought
up
our
funding
because
when
we
talk
about
cover
19,
you
know
the
the
saying
is
that
when
white
america
gets
the
cold,
black
america
gets
the
flu,
and
so
I
remember
early
on
in
the
pandemic,
when
it
was,
it
was
revealed
that
black
and
brown
folks
were
disproportionately
affected
by
covet
19..
H
So
it
seems
to
me
again
from
an
equitable
standpoint
that
when
we
get
an
opportunity
to
decide
how
to
spend
the
funding,
the
funding
would
disproportionately
ghost
go
to
those
who
were
disproportionately
affected.
Just
keeping
that
in
mind,
because
I
haven't
seen
that
discussion
quite
yet.
H
So
even
when
we're
talking
about
funding
for
those
who
are
unhoused
if
black
and
brown
are
disproportionately
unhoused,
I'm
wondering
if
we
need
to
have
some
type
of
policy
that
even
in
those
cases,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
the
organization's
providing
the
help
have
a
equitable
plan
in
place
as
well.
I
Of
question
for
debra
or
legal,
if
you
were
to
think
about
going
into
a
moratorium,
it
seems
that
you
have
to
have
make
a
case
for
that.
You
have
to
have
data
to
support
that.
Will
the
boeing
report
be
substantial
enough
for
us
to
consider
moratorium,
and
then
I
know
also,
if
you
propose
a
moratorium,
you
have
to
have
some
kind
of
objective
as
well.
So
is
that
something
we
can
form
in
our
next
discussion.
E
E
H
E
H
H
H
C
So,
just
in
all
fairness
like,
let's
all
remember,
we
got
to
get
the
data
we
got
to
get
the
data
we
got
to
make
sure.
I
understand
it
feels
this
way.
I
also
think
I
mean
we
can
come
back
and
have
a
discussion
if
the
if
the
goal
is
to,
I
don't
know,
I
guess
I'm
thinking
about
timeline.
Let
me
back
up
clear
thought,
so
we
don't
do
these
every
week.
We
don't
do
these
every
month.
C
So
you
know,
if
we're
going
to
collect
some
information,
maybe
we
also
collect
how
many
we've
done
the
last
few
years
that
informs
whether
or
not
we
need
to
like
halt
and
consider
a
moratorium
versus
concurrently
discuss
evaluate
because
I'm
not
like,
I
don't
see
one
queued
up
coming
to
us.
I
don't
see
one
in
the
next
few
months
unless
we're
not
aware
of
it
being
queued
up.
So
I
don't
think
there's
another
luigi
asker
rfp
out
there
for
development
that
you
know
we
could
work
on
this
concurrently
without
interrupting
something
just
a
thought.
B
Oh
well,
I
have
to
think
about
the
moratorium,
because
that
is
usually
related
to
zoning
and
you're
talking
about
a
change
in
a
housing
policy.
So
when
we
use
the
term
moratorium,
it
is
still
stopping
doing
anything.
I
guess,
as
far
as
granting
any
more
of
our
housing
trust
funds,
but
that
doesn't
fall
within
the
zoning.
So
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
different
than
our
the
statutory
moratorium
requirements
that
were
related
to,
as
you
said
deborah
to
when
we
were
talking
about
stopping
a
particular
kind
of
zoning
use.
B
B
I
would
assume
that
any
it's
still
a
big
decision
to
just
stop,
and
so
I
probably
even
if
statutorily
you're
not
required
to
follow
these
certain
requirements,
it
probably
makes
sense
to
still
say
what
is
what
is
the
data
that
shows
we
have
an
issue,
then
you,
then
you.
As
you
say
what
is
the
goal
they're
trying
to
find
out
and
then,
of
course
it
can't
be
forever.
So
you
set
the
time
period
where
you
try
to
do.
J
B
It
might
be
difficult
to
get
the
data
to
the
level
that
you
want,
so
there
may
have
to
be
a
process
of
stakeholder
meetings
and
what
are
people
experiencing?
What
are
they
saying?
How
do
we
get
to
that?
Maybe
it
is
stakeholder
developers.
Why
don't
more
developers
one
who's
out
there
in
this
local
community
working
anyway,
and
do
they
feel
that
they're
not
getting
opportunities?
Do
we
have
to
do
brought
wider?
H
Yes,
what
if
a
developer
could
do
like
I
proposed
at
319
and
say
I
may
not
be
able
to
get
x
number
of
units
under
60
percent,
but
what
I
could
do
is
sell
some
condos
to
people
affected
by
urban
renewal.
H
I
mean
that
would
be
a
trade-off
that
I
would
I
would
love.
I
just
happen
to
know.
The
black
community
part
of
the
issue
in
renting
is
black
folks
above
a
certain
income,
much
prefer
home
ownership.
I
mean.
Is
that
something
we
need
to
consider
or
is
the
goal
just
to
literally
be
able
to
say
we
have
x
number
of
units
of
affordable
housing,
affordable
housing
for
whom
so
again.
B
I
I,
like
I,
like
the
direction
you're
going.
I
thank
you
for
that
and
that's
exact,
but
I
think
we're
all
getting
kind
of
clogged
up
and
caught
up
in
the
moratorium,
but
I
think
we
start
with
collecting
the
data
and
I
believe
that
bowen
has
done
a
lot
of
great
work.
He
has
the
research
infrastructure
to
call
these
stakeholders
to
the
table
and
ask
these
questions
that
councilwoman
mosley
is
asking,
so
we
have
a
grounds
for
moving
forward
again.
I
I
think
we
get
caught
up
in
moratorium
and
it's
kind
of
making
us
freeze
in
our
thought
process
when
what
she
is
saying
is.
You
know
there
are
unintended
consequences
to
a
lot
of
policies
that
we
have
put
in
place,
a
lot
of
programs
that
we
put
in
place.
That's
why
we're
having
conversations
right
now
about
urban
renewal
and
the
effects
of
urban
renewal?
It
started
off
as
a
great
idea,
a
lot
of
stakeholders
at
the
table,
a
lot
of
community
engagement
and
it
was
a
disaster.
I
So,
let's
catch
it
early
answer
the
questions
get
all
the
data,
so
we
know
how
to
move
forward
so
don't
get
caught
up
in
moratorium
and
what
it
takes
to
do
a
moratorium
and
stop
doing
something
good.
That's
producing
all
of
that.
Let's
just
get
the
data,
so
we
won't
be
back
here.
20
years
from
now
saying
I
told
you
so.
C
I
can
appreciate
that
that's.
I
appreciate
that
summary
is
helpful.
Thank
you.
Both,
I
think
great
topic,
certainly
of
interest
in
the
community
and
the
more
we
can
glean
the
better
we
can
do
so.
I
love
that
we
can
start
by
trying
to
get
some
data
we're
lucky
to
have
patrick
bowen,
I'm
trying
to
think
the
last
time
we
did
an
update.
We
ahack
had
asked
him
to
add
some
more
multi-family
data
like
bedrooms
and
stuff
and
he
was
able
to
add
a
layer.
So
hopefully
this
is
just
something
he
can
talk
to.
C
I've
been
talking
about
some
housing
inventory
things
with
him
and
he
has
a
very
curious
brain
about
our
inventory.
So
this
may
actually
intrigue
him.
So
all
right
great
discussion,
I
think
we
can.
Are
we
wrapping
that
one
up?
Do
we
have
any
other
things
on
paul's
updates
and
questions
for
him?
While
we
have
him,
I
just
had
a
couple.
I
was
curious
about
what
you
said
about
oak
hill,
that
there
was
some
movement.
D
Just
that
we've
been
getting
developer
interest
from
oak
hill
site,
so
we
have
been
getting.
You
know
some
more
calls
there
and
then
you
know
quick
another
solution
councilwoman
mostly,
and
I'm
sorry,
if
I
keep
being
like
hey
we've
thought
of
things,
but
it
is
on
our
list
to
do
a
with
like
when
I
started
a
regional
tour
of
developers.
D
It's
on
the
list
to
do
a
regional
tour
of
black
and
brown
developers
in
like
a
four
mile
or
six
mile,
sorry,
four
hour,
six
mile
radius
to
attract
work
in
nashville.
We,
our
mo,
was
city
of
asheville's
open
for
business
and
we're
open
for
the
business
of
affordable
housing
and
open
for
business
of
developers
of
all
types
will
hopefully
be
the
additional
sentence
so
something
the
team's
looking
at
to
do
in
the
spring.
I
Paul
can
I
say
something
right
there,
that's
so
important
to
do
and
be
intentional
without
outreach,
because
anytime,
I'm
out
of
town-
and
I
say
I'm
from
asheville
and
people
say-
are
there
black
people?
Is
there
a
black
community
there?
So
they
don't
really
know
enough
about
asheville
for
asheville
to
be
on
their
radar.
But
as
we
cast
the
net
and
we're
very
intentional
about
our
narrative
and
what's
needed
in
the
history
of
housing,
then
I
think
we
can
draw
more
people
they're,
not
that
far
off.
H
And
just
so
folks
know,
I
love
the
idea
and
just
so
folks
know
so
now,
every
time
I
see
a
developer
or
even
a
non-profit
developer,
I'm
going
to
be
very
specific
in
asking.
What
are
your
marketing
plans?
What
is
your
outreach?
What
subconscious
contractors
do
you
plan
on
engaging?
So
that's
going
to
be
a
question
every
single
time,
including
this
meeting.
I
believe
so
it's
very
very
important
to
me
because
we
have
to
be
intentional
and
I
don't
believe
we
are
intentional.
H
At
least
at
this
point
I
do
have
a
question
paul
totally
not
really
related
to
this,
and
I
meant
to
ask
you
before:
can
you
give
me
an
update
on
what's
going
on
out
by
pisgah
view
with
the
housing
authority
and
that
not
just
give
you
the
reviewer.
D
I
might
pivot
to
nikki
on
that
one,
for
maybe
the
latest
greatest
update
there.
K
Sure
thing
paul
we've
been
working
with
the
housing
authority
to
understand
the
future
of
the
partnership
there
and
working
on
a
draft
memorandum
of
understanding
that
would
be
brought
before
council.
So
we
continue
to
work
with
our
legal
partners
on
just
getting
that
agreement
ready
for
committee
review
and
then
ultimately,
council
review.
So
that's
in
the
works
hoping
to
have
something
early
next
year,
I
think,
would
be
ideal.
K
A
C
You
for
that.
Thank
you,
everyone,
okay,
just
a
couple
more
things
I
wanted
to
highlight
from
the
updates.
I
did
see
that
solar
was
added
to
360
colored,
which
looks
great
and
I
was
thrilled
to
see.
They
chose
a
local
small,
solar
contractor
shout
out
to
seoul
farm
on
that
one
I
did
see
you
also
had.
C
The
arpa
coordinator
mentions
that
the
4.7
million
that
will
be
coming
from
arpa
to
the
housing
consortium
will
be
reaching
out
to
higher
coordinator
positions,
so
just
a
little
plug
there
and
for
those
of
you
listening
at
home,
we're
trying.
We
do
have
another
4.7
million
dollars
coming
from
the
rescue
plan
in
the
housing
consortium,
we'll
be
picking
up
that
process
of
applications
roughly,
that
timeline
will
start
in
monday
of
january
2022
and
with
applications
roughly
coming
in
in
the
spring
and
allocation
roughly
in
november.
C
I
Seems
that
we
need
to
lead
into
designing
some
type
of
equity
standard
councilwoman,
mostly
when
it
comes
to
housing,
development
or
the
distribution
of
funds,
it
could.
C
Okay,
so
we
have
one
last
update
that
I
wanted
to
hand
the
mic
to
nikki
to
make
sure.
K
Thing
is,
updates
I'll,
do
that,
and
so
we
have
another
community
development
update
to
share
and
it's
regarding
staffing,
and
so
it's
with
a
deep
heart
full
of
gratitude
for
paul
d'angelo
paul's
had
the
opportunity
to
accept
another
position
to
lead
an
affordable
housing
developer
in
colorado.
We're
very
happy
for
paul.
This
is
an
amazing
opportunity
for
him
and,
of
course,
acknowledging
the
great
work
and
great
impact
that
he's
had
here
in
our
community.
K
We
can
only
expect
that
he
would
be
tapped
to
really
lead
the
charge
in
another
community
to
really
broaden
his
impact
in
another
space.
So
as
much
as
it
pains
me
to
to
lose,
someone
like
paul
who's
been
first
off
an
amazing
partner.
For
me
personally
in
my
work
here
at
the
city,
I
was
reflecting
this
morning
that
really
my
love
for
this
work
really
began
when,
when
paul-
and
I
really
became
in
deep
partnership
together
on
how
to
work
on
affordable
housing
for
the
city
of
asheville.
K
So
I
have
a
deep
sense
of
gratitude
just
to
share
for
that
personally.
But
I
just
appreciate
everything
that
paul
has
done
for
our
community
he's
an
amazing
leader
he's
led
the
community
development
division
since
2019,
and
I
know
that
his
staff
really
appreciates
his
leadership
and
his
sense
of
humor
his
his
joy
that
he
brings
to
the
work,
and
so
we're
just
really
really
happy
that
paul
has
this
opportunity,
but
also
to
acknowledge
that
he
will
be.
He
will
be
greatly
missed
by
our
community.
K
So
thanks
paul
for
all
your
work,
thanks
for
really
bringing
affordable
housing
in
in
your
voice,
and
thanks
for
being
my
co-anchor
for
so
many
amazing
work
sessions
that
we've
had
with
our
council
members.
And
so
I
know
this
committee
really
really
understands
the
depth
and
breadth
of
paul's
expertise
and
his
hard
work.
So
I
thought
it
was
only
fitting
to
really
make
this
announcement
here
today.
K
C
Oh
yeah,
this
is
that
I
knew
it
was
coming
and
it
doesn't
make
it
any
easier.
I
I
have
grown
to
really
appreciate
you
paul.
I
was
thinking
back
when
I
got
involved
in
affordable
housing.
I
think
I've
been
with
four
or
five
directors
and
that
at
this
point
you
by
far
were
the
most
consistent
available
appreciated
knowledgeable.
It
was
just
it's
been
tremendous
working
with
you
and
this
is
definitely
a
loss
for
the
city.
So
if
it
doesn't
work
out,
you
know
come.
A
C
But
really,
I
think
you
know,
as
you
can
see,
by
the
updates,
we
have
launched
more
projects
under
your
watch.
We
have
accomplished
more
things
under
your
watch.
We
have
updated
policy
after
policy
after
policy.
Even
in
this
discussion
we
had
in
the
last
20
minutes,
I
mean
you're
your
diplomacy
and
the
knowledge
and
ability
to
see
a
path
forward
is
always
appreciated
and
it's
just
a
big
loss.
So
thank
you
for
all.
You
have
done
paul.
F
D
Thank
you
all
very
much,
that's
beyond
sweet
and
I'm
very
grateful
and,
and
then
one
quick
thing
is.
Please
know
that
these
conversations
that
happen-
and
I
tell
nikki
this
all
the
time
it's
so
important.
You
know
the
good,
the
bad,
the
ugly
conversations
that
happen
early
and
often
with
all
sorts
of
stakeholders.
D
Everyone
knows
I
can
talk
and
I
enjoy
those
opportunities,
but
I
also
know
that
that
listening
and
opening
up
your
ears
to
the
conversation
that
just
occurred
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
right
by
the
community
and
that
we're
doing
better
and
thinking
about
things
is
just
as
important
when
somebody's
like
great
job.
This
is
perfect.
It's
just
important
to
be
at
the
table
for
those
tough
conversations
that
need
to
happen
for
the
benefit
of
our
community
and
the
benefit
for
affordable
housing.
D
So
they
can
be
tough,
but
I'm
forever
grateful
for
them,
and
I
I
look
forward
to
learning
from
them
and
yes
sage,
like
I
texted,
you
just
think,
like
a
college
student
going
off
for
a
year,
we'll
see
how
I
do
if
it
doesn't
work
out
I'll
I'll,
come
knocking
on
70
core
plaza
and
see
how
that
goes.
But
I'm
grateful
you
all
gave
me
a
lot
of
carp
launch
here
and
I
hope
I've
I've
done
you
all
awesome
service.
It
might
not
have
been
everything,
but
I
hope
it
sure
was
something
so.
C
All
right
moving
on
in
our
agenda
y'all,
so
for
those
of
you
listening
at
home,
we
are
now
moving
on
to
item
three,
the
strategic
partnership
funds
known
as
spf.
We
have
an
update
and
I
guess
paul,
are
you
gonna
kick
this
off.
D
Yeah,
so
talking
about
fun,
more
fun
conversations,
so
strategic
partnership
funds.
As
most
of
you
know,
this
has
been
out
there
for
a
couple
years
now
in
deciding
on
on
how
we
can
strategically
use
this
funding
source
and
if
you
all
remember,
it
was
probably
about
a
year
ago
that
there
were
a
couple
decisions
made
with
strategic
partnership
funds
which
had
to
do
with
the
direction
of
those
funds.
So
it
was
agreed
upon
that.
D
We
would
use
these
funds
for
closing
the
opportunity
gap
that
we
had
about
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
give
or
take,
and
that
we
should
do
grants
at
a
minimum
of
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
and
then
other
things
that
I
think
were
kind
of
still
on
the
table
and
additional
questions
that
not
only
came
up
then
about
who
had
the
capacity
to
run
these
funds,
particularly
with
community
development,
not
being
education
experts
per
se,
and
so
we
wanted
to
bring
this
back.
D
This
is
kind
of
the
full
memo
that
went
out
about
a
year
ago
and
we're
looking
forward
to
the
discussion
this
morning.
Also,
my
partner
here,
alex
michener,
our
kayla,
leed
and
workforce
development
coordinator
is
here.
I
think
one
one
thing
that
the
community
development
team
wanted
to
discuss
was:
you
know
not
only
you
know
moving
forward
and
we
have
a
recommendation
in
the
staff
report
about
possibly
doing
an
rfp,
but
but
hopefully
what
what
comes
around
to
today's
discussion
is:
how
can
this
funding
be
strategic?
D
How
can
this
funding
be
used
to
be
really
strategic
about
closing
the
opportunity
gap?
D
There
were
some
additional
comments
that
are
in
that
staff
report
to
talk
about
some
things
to
think
about,
you
know,
should
education
experts,
equity
coaches
seem
to
be
the
one
thing
that
folks
really
agreed
upon
when
we
worked
with
the
schools
and
our
and
the
equity
department
at
the
time-
and
you
know
potential
partners
that
could
possibly
be
out
there
and
then
are
there
any
programs
we
could
mirror
that
are
out
there
to
do
that
work
and
maybe
hire
somebody.
D
You
know,
there's
a
link
to
a
program
that
that
I
learned
about
in
boulder
hint
and
it
talks
about
a
child
program
there
that
the
teachers
and
and
folks
actually
go
into
the
kids
homes
and
the
housing
aspect
of
it
in
the
education
aspect
of
it.
So
a
lot
of
information
is
in
the
staff
report,
a
lot
of
years
and
good
work
behind
it.
D
It's
difficult
to
open
this
up
to
a
larger
discussion,
but
both
alex-
and
I
I
think,
agree
and
the
team
that
it's
probably
worth
the
discussion
today
to
really
and
it
might
not
get
solved
today.
But
how
can
we
strategically
use
these
funds
for
our
community
and
closing
the
opportunity
gap
and
happy
to
answer
any
questions
or
help
lead
a
discussion
or
alex,
and
I
can
certainly
share
our
experience
in
this
process
over
the
last
couple
years.
Thank
you.
I
I
would
just
like
to
say
I
like
the
direction
that
we're
going
in
getting
a
team
as
educators,
but
when
I
think
about
the
opportunity
gap,
I
I
understand
that
their
needs
outside
of
academics
and
we're
really
wrapping
support
around
the
child's
family
and
I
think
the
best
person
or
expertise
to
give
us
a
clear
snapshot
of
what
a
child's
experience
would
be.
It's
not
only
the
educator
but
also
a
social
worker
and
they're
social
workers
in
every
school
and
they're
social
workers
per
district.
I
And
I
believe
that
some
non-profits
might
have
that
information
as
well.
I'm
thinking
about
children's
first
children,
first
yeah.
If
that's
correct-
and
I
know
they
they
specify
in
a
lot
of
different
areas
from
after
school
programming
to
youth
mentorship,
and
they,
I
think,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
they
also
look
into
the
mckinney-vento
students
as
well,
so
that
kind
of
brings
in
homelessness,
academics
and
family
needs
as
well.
But
I
I
want
to
massage
that
idea.
I
From
that
perspective,
I
do
believe
that
a
child's
education
doesn't
always
rise
and
fall
on
their
intelligence,
but
that
holistic
approach
that
we've
been
having
discussions
about
yeah,
and
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
great
social
workers
who
will
be
able
to
be
a
part
of
that
discussion.
C
Thank
you.
I
can
appreciate
that.
I
know
yeah.
The
entire
picture
is
crucial
here:
housing
access,
food
transportation,
all
of
it
so
yeah,
okay.
I
appreciate
the
direction
this
is
going
to
any
other
questions
or
comments
concerns
about
next
steps.
While
we
have
staff
here,
because
we
have
a
potential
motion
and
a
request
recommendation
to
counsel
here.
I
I
I
need
to
get
clear
a
little
bit
I
want
to
get.
I
want
to
get
clear
on
it,
so
so
we're
saying
that
we
don't
have
the
staff
capacity
right
now
to
handle
the
reporting
and
and
and
all
that
entails
with
the
with
holding.
I
D
That's
what
we
would
put
out
in
a
request
for
proposal
to
find
a
partner
to
possibly
handle
that
and
but
again
you
know
thinking
you
know
creatively
a
bit
like
you
know.
Could
it
be?
You
know
somebody
that
could
be
hired
to
lead
this
charge?
Could
it
be?
I
don't
want
to
speak
too
freely
here,
but
a
budget
line
item
that
that
goes
to
an
agency.
D
That's
the
proven
expert
in
this
work,
or
do
we
develop
an
rfp,
bring
it
back
to
the
committee
to
kind
of
talk
about
with
what
what
they
want
to
see
with
these
fundings
again,
I
think
and
alex
has
her
hand
up.
I
think
in
alex
nice
really
great
discussions.
It's
like
strategic
partnership
funds,
strategic
closing
opportunity
gap.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
that
moves
forward
and
that
they
for
the
use
of
the
funds
which
which
wasn't
always
the
case
in
the
past.
L
And
one
thing
I'd
just
like
to
emphasize
on
that,
whatever
organization
we
end
up
moving
forward
with
that,
an
equity
lens
is
going
to
be
used,
and
that
I
mean
that
that's
something
that
we
just
really
need
to
go
by
about
this
time.
Last
month,
I
had
kind
of
like
a
like
a
forum
with
my
kayla
students
to
get
feedback
on
things
going
on
in
their
schools.
L
The
feedback
is
very
concerning
there
are
a
lot
of
racial
issues
going
on
in
their
schools
and
when
I
think
about
the
opportunity
gap
I'm
like
well,
it
doesn't
sound
like
there's
a
conducive
learning
environment.
What
do
you
expect
to
happen
at
the
end
of
the
day
when
these
kind
of
issues
are
plaguing
their
academic
system?
L
L
I
I
I
would
like
to
see
maybe
the
award
being
given
not
to
a
single
a
single
entity,
maybe
if
they
can
form
a
coalition
and
the
nonprofit
can
just
maybe
one
single
non-profit
can
be
the
lead
on
the
rfp,
and
I
think,
because
that
builds
in
accountability
and
then
that
also
builds
in
a
lot
of
unification.
That
needs
to
happen
across
across
the
city
across
agencies
across
organizations,
and
you
know
that
that's
needed.
D
I
I
That
because
this
thing
like
this
has
been
prolonged-
and
you
know
our
children's
education,
it
doesn't
like.
We've
had
graduating
classes,
go
by
without
having
this
support
in
place.
But
I
would
like
to
take
a
look
at
it
because
I
think
in
recent
discussions,
we've
been
seeing
that
a
lot
of.
C
Yeah,
I
agree
because
you
know,
if
we're
the
ones
ultimately
looking
at
the
outcomes
of
the
artificial.
Oh
I'm
not
sure
if
I
had
a
delay
or
if
you
all
did
I'm
sorry.
If
I
interrupted
someone
I
was
just
going
to
say.
I
agree.
A
little
bit
of
input
on
the
front
of
the
rfp
may
help
resolve
some
of
the
issues
we
have
when
they
are.
The
proposals
come
back.
I
like
that
that
thinking.
C
So
what
I'm
hearing
is
bring
an
rfp
draft
back
to
this
committee
for
starters
and
that
there
is
support
for
moving
forward
to
kind
of
outsource
partner,
etc
on
this
item
and
that
the
expediency
is
important
because
we
have
already
delayed
a
year
and
doubled
the
funding,
but
while
kids
are
still
growing
and
graduating
and
need
our
help,
so
I
think
do
we
have
clarity
on
that?
So
I
don't,
I
don't
think
we're
gonna.
I
guess
we
could
do
a
motion
just
to
bring
back
a
draft
rfp.
D
D
I
L
I
think
so
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I'm
not
sure
what
it
would
look
like
exactly
if
we
could,
if
we
ended
up,
maybe
using
that
funding
for
that
organization
to
maybe
hire
those
equity
coaches.
Maybe
I'm
not
sure
how
that
would
work
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
okay.
L
I
just
know
that
just
I
mean
I'm
I'll,
give
you
some
background.
I'm
born
and
raised
from
here.
I'm
a
teacher's
kid.
I've
worked
in
the
school
system
and
there
are
so
many
barriers
that
are
not
in
the
public
eye
that
hold
so
many
students
back.
You
know,
and
it's
not
necessarily
something
that
things
that
are
like
in
your
face
racism,
but
a
lot
of
stuff.
That's
undercover!
L
You
know
how
certain
students
will
be
allowed
to
take
certain
like
math
classes
that
are
going
to
benefit
them
in
the
long
run,
to
take
more
aps,
so,
ultimately,
they're
going
to
get
into
a
better
college
than
the
students
that
are
not
allowed
to
take
those
classes
and
it
strategically
puts
them
ahead
at
the
end
of
the
day.
So,
just
I
just
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
just
really
want
somebody
with
that
lens.
That's
really
going
to
see
up
close
the
barriers
that
a
lot
of
our
students
are
facing.
C
D
So
this
is
here
today
about
homeware
bounds,
a
1.5
million
dollar
rehab
for
permanent
supportive
housing
and
community
development
staff
recommends
approving
homeward
bound
requests
for
1.5
million
dollar
housing.
Trust
fund
forgivable
loan
for
givable
at
the
end
of
a
period
of
99
years
and
secured
with
adida
trust
for
the
purpose
of
property
rehabilitation.
D
As
many
of
you
know,
the
city
committed
two
million
dollars
in
arpa
funding
this
past
summer
for
the
acquisition
of
the
day's
end
at
201
tunnel.
Road
acquisition
price
was
6.5
million
dollars,
and
the
city
contributed
two
million
dollars
in
arpa
fund
funds
to
help
with
that
acquisition.
D
The
motel
sits
on
approximately
three
acres
and
contains
128
guest
rooms.
Two-Story
buildings,
two
separate
buildings
and
homeward
bound,
is
looking
to
convert
these
85
of
the
128
rooms
into
permanent
supportive
housing
by
adding
a
kitchen
net
and
making
those
a
livable
environment
in
studio
apartments.
D
The
remaining
rooms
will
be
converted
to
office
space
for
case
managers.
It's
our
understanding
that
homeward
bound
is
going
to
use
their
head
or
move
their
headquarters
to
this
space.
A
phase
one
environmental
review.
When
an
assessment
has
been
conducted,
a
project
will
have
project-based
vouchers
from
the
housing
authority
to
assist
with
our
operating
costs
and
reserves
once
they
get
through
the
acquisition
which
is
done,
and
then
the
repurpose
of
the
building
housing
units
are
targeted
to
our
special
needs.
D
Population
and
the
critical
strategy
in
an
incredible
in
chronic
homelessness
is
a
key
component
of
continuum
of
care.
Providing
an
exit
from
homelessness
from
people
with
the
most
complex
needs,
with
housing.
Being
the
solution
for
homelessness
project
will
be
affordable
in
perpetuity
with
a
deed.
Reflecting
this
agreement,
homeward
bound
anticipates,
the
property
will
open
in
january
1
of
2023
with
85
residents.
D
The
total
project
cost
comes
in
at
about
3.13.6
million,
with
7.1
associated
with
this
repurpose
and
rehab,
and
that
is
the
homework
bounce
request
to
help
with
1.5
million
dollar
request
for
that
7.1
million
dollars
for
repurposing
this
site.
Overall,
the
price
comes
in
at
about
160
000
per
unit
for
this
site
right
now.
It's
a
construction
cost
for
new
construction,
probably
come
in
about
185
000,
give
or
take
give
or
take
they've
partnered
with
mckibben
places.
D
Who've
done
a
work
in
the
charlotte
area
to
develop
hotel
conversions
and
we've
broken
down
the
homeward
bound
funding,
requests
from
other
agencies
in
work,
as
well
as
a
little
bit
of
information
about
their
annual
operating
costs
and
annual
revenues
being
assisted
there
with
project-based
vouchers.
D
This
meets
several
council
goals
and
at
committee
here
for
the
first
time
I
do
want
to
take
a
just
another
minute
or
two
for
the
pros
and
cons
here.
Funding
supports
85
permanent
supportive
housing
units.
Very
important
important
there
proposed
project
will
end
homelessness
for
at
least
85
people
experiencing
chronic
homelessness,
which
aligns,
with
our
consolidated
plan
cost
per
unit.
D
The
proposed
1.5
million
housing
trust
fund
for
rehab
comes
in
at
about
17
600,
which
is
below
our
average.
When
you
combine
the
housing,
trust
fund,
investment
and
arpa
funding.
If
awarded
that
was
2.5
million
that
came
in
at
29
thousand
for
12.
overall,
between
both
sources
of
funding
for
acquisition
and
rehab.
D
D
This
is
important
to
have
that
data
collection
at
his
and
homeward
bound
will
comply
with
the
city's
business
inclusion
policy,
which
requires
a
demonstration
of
best
faith
efforts
to
meet
certain
percentage
of
nwbe
participation.
Some
quick
cons
here
as
well
per
the
housing
transform
policy.
The
maximum
loan
amount
available.
Each
developer
is
20
000
per
unit,
and
the
maximum
loan
per
project
is
1
million,
unless
otherwise
approved
by
city
council
due
to
unique
features
for
our
trust
fund
policy
as
well.
D
Trust
fund
is
not
to
be
used
for
grants,
forgivable
loans
or
indefinitely
deferred
loans.
This
would
loan
would
be
against
that
policy,
but
I
believe
can
be
decided
on
by
city
council.
If
this
funding
is
granted,
this
would
set
a
precedent
for
future
housing
trust
fund
loans
until
the
policy
can
be
updated.
Perhaps
that
grant
grants
are
concerned
are
given
at
certain
criteria
like
a
full
100
homeless
population
or
something
like
that
for
the
future
city's
overall.
D
Investment
in
this
project
is
4.5
million
versus
the
county's
investment
of
three
million
and
while
community
development
respects
and
supports
the
team
at
home,
we're
bound.
There
have
been
concerns
with
staffing
changes
when
we're
bound
that
may
make
this
project
risky
from
an
underwriting
perspective.
The
project
manager
listed
is
no
longer
a
part
of
the
team.
The
financial
manager
started
in
september
september.
D
A
couple
quick
notes,
kind
of
going
back
to
conversation
that
happened
earlier,
you
may
see
more
of
our
staff
reports
contain
language
about
reporting,
like
hmis
or
our
business
inclusion
policies
that
we
can
be
really
clear
on
the
front
end
about
that
and
the
importance
of
our
staff
reports
to
be
as
transparent
as
possible,
with
conversations
happening
in
the
community,
about
projects
etc
and
with
that
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
D
Yes,
we've
got
interim
director
cindy
mcmahon
on
the
call
with
a
few
of
her
staff
folks
as
well,
I
believe
jenny
moffatt
and
is
it
jim
as
well.
M
We
have
some
echoing.
I
think
that
was
probably
because
of
jenny.
So
jenny
is
our
permanent
supportive
housing,
director
and
jim
is
in
charge
of
lead
gifts
with
homeward
bound
and
so
very
involved
in
the
capital
campaign,
and
we're
happy
to
answer
whatever
questions
you
may
have
of
us.
H
N
H
Hello,
jenny
since
you've
had
the
opportunity
to
do
the
point
in
time
calculation
I'm
wondering
you're
able
to
determine
how
many
folks
were
native
or
local
to
asheville.
N
F
C
Yes,
I
pulled
it
up,
so
it
looks
like
there's,
2019
and
2020
numbers.
Are
there
2021
already
and
it's
just
not
up
on
the
page.
D
Emily
balls
on
the
call
emily,
I
know
we're
going
to
do
the
point
in
time
towards
the
end
of
january.
Does
that
is
that
considered
data
from
2021,
I'm
assuming
or
am
I
wrong?
There.
D
J
Go
ahead
thanks,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
having
some
tech
trouble,
and
so
I'm
just
on
my
phone.
We,
so
we
do
not.
In
the
point
in
time
we
don't
capture
information
about
where
people
are
from
originally
jenny.
I
think
probably
the
best
data
set
for
that
is
your
a-hope
data
that
you
all
have
been
using
in
your
capital
campaign.
J
If
you
want
to
share
that
information,
that's
a
good
snapshot
of
our
unsheltered
population
in
terms
of
sort
of
community
of
origin,
the
demographic
data
for
our
2021
point
in
time
count
we
had
agreements
for
a
memory,
but
we
can
send
this
to
you
at
24
of
folks.
In
the
point
in
time,
count
were
black
or
african-american
and
another
six
percent
were
other
people
of
color.
Seventy
percent
were
white.
D
H
No,
no,
no,
that's
interesting
and
quite
helpful,
so
let's
go
ahead
and
assume
it's
24
and
then
recognizing
that
the
african-american
population
of
the
city
is
what
now
around
nine
percent.
Can
someone
give
me
an
idea
of
your
equity
plan
for
deciding
who
gets
to
live
in
the
permanent
housing?
What
is
your
plan
for
that.
N
Right
now
about
40
percent
of
our
clients
that
come
through
our
homeless
day
center
are
people
of
color,
and
so
we,
it
will
really
be
at
that
point.
H
N
It's
it
was
a
national
tool
that
was
created
by
org
code
out
of
actually
out
of
canada,
but
most
communities,
most
cocs
used
it
as
best
best
practice,
but
over
the
past
four
or
five
years
it
became
really
clear
that
it
was
not
not
intentionally
but
also
not
looking
at
racial
equity.
Through
the
same
lens
that
maybe
we
were
looking
at
mental
health,
we
were
looking
at
substance
use
looking
at
physical
health,
and
so
we
wanted
to
be
sure
that
we
could
find
a
tool
and
again
this
the
city
and
emily's
office
there.
N
The
coc
is
working
on
creating
that
tool
or
finding
that
tool.
We're
sort
of
in
the
beginning
phases
of
that
and
have
a
plan
for
the
next
12
months
to
have
meetings
with
local
providers
and
so
forth
for
us
to
create
that
tool
together
with
input
from
all
of
the
folks
that
use
the
tool
and
how
we
slate
for
housing
in
our
community.
C
I'll
share
one
other
thought
as
far
as
gathering
information
on
locals.
I
know
when
we
were
talking
about
encampments
and
relocating
folks
to
hotels
that
we
were
asking
that
information.
Were
you
from
here?
Were
you
from
a
neighboring
region?
C
So
there
may
be
some
data
around
the
ramada
guess
or
red
roof
guess,
but
it
wouldn't
be
encompassing
of
all
folks.
But
there
is
that.
J
I
can
share
that
also,
if
that's
okay,
we
for
folks
at
the
ramada
76
of
people
who
are
there,
had
housing
in
buncombe
county
and
became
homeless
in
buncombe
county
and
then
another
12
percent
became
homeless
elsewhere
in
western
north
carolina.
J
C
J
C
Be
curious,
okay,
any
other
questions
for
when
we're
down.
While
we
have
them,
I
kind
of
do
so.
H
M
Our
understanding
is
this:
this
is
a
99-year
forgivable
loan
that
we
are
requesting
so
might
want
to
ask
paul
to
to
clarify
that
a
little
bit.
But
that's
it
is
a
loan
that
we're
requesting
the
99-year
forgivable
loan.
If
you're
asking
whether
we
would
consider
a
loan
that
is
not
forgivable,
that's
something
that
we
would
need
to
go
back
and
and
and
look
at
our
our
financial
calculations
around
that
and
make
sure
that
we
would
have
the
financial
wherewithal
to
be
able
to
pay
that
back
in
a
timely
way.
Obviously,
but
paul.
D
Sure-
and
I
I
may
pivot
to
janus-
for
the
exact
language
but
yeah
this
will.
This
will
be
an
amount
of
funding
that
sits
out
there
on
adida
trust
that,
if
anything,
changes
regarding
this
property,
the
intended
use
etc.
D
H
D
Sure
so,
normally
with
a
housing
trust
fund
loan,
we
can
see
a
lot
of
different
scenarios.
D
The
most
popular
seems
to
be
and
generalizing
here
like
a
20-year
loan
with
no
payments,
or
maybe
it's
interest
only
payments
annually
and
then
a
balloon
payment
at
the
end
of
20
years
or
some
type
of
interest
in
principal
and
then
a
lar,
a
balloon
payment
at
20
years,
but
that
seems
to
be
popular
and
like
a
one
or
two
percent
interest
rate,
knowing
that
in
some
of
our
home
funding
discussions,
this
hud
home
funding,
this
has
come
up
and
knowing
the
subsidy
needed
to
house
our
chronically
homeless
and
most
vulnerable
population.
D
We
know
that
comes
at
a
higher
cost
and
I
believe
homeward
bound's
narrative
was
to
get
the
funding
for
acquisition
and
rehab
repurpose,
get
that
covered
between
city,
county
dogwood
and
their
own
raising
of
funds,
and
then
the
operating
costs
would
be
covered
through
project-based
vouchers.
To
keep
them
afloat
for
years
on
out
was
the
general
thing
again:
it's
it's.
It
is
not
in
the
policy
we
thought
this
was
worth
considering
for
the
need
for
housing
and
permanent
supportive
housing.
C
Paul
and
perhaps
deborah
since
this
is
the
first
time
we've
really
embarked
on
this
kind
of
adventure,
I'm
curious.
Procedurally,
so
we
have.
We
did
the
two
million
dollars
for
the
purchase.
This
is
a
million
and
a
half
dollar
for
upfit.
In
the
chart.
I
see.
There's
another
million
dollar
ask
for
arpa.
C
So
that's
a
4.5
million
dollar
ask
of
the
city
total,
so
a
third
of
the
project,
and
then
I
see
that
there's
an
ask
of
the
county
for
arpa,
and
I
I
guess
I
had
thought
there
was
a
dogwood
housing,
trust
or
dogma
trust
application
as
well.
But
my
procedural
question
is:
do
we
if
we
agreed
to
this
today?
Is
it
contingent
upon
the
other
partners
also
engaging
because
it
seems,
like
you
know,
without
everyone,
the
project
may
not
happen,
and
my
other
question
is
for
perhaps
homeward
bound
on.
O
We've
we've
basically
raised
about
half
of
the
renovation
money
and
that
comes
from
an
additional
million
dollars
from
the
from
buncombe
county
they've
already
put
that
put
that
in
and
we're,
and
then
we've
also
done
some
private
fundraising
from
individuals
to
get
us
to
about
halfway
to
the
renovation
to
the
renovation
goal,
and
we
do
have
several
proposals,
one
that's
into
dogwood
health
trust,
it's
actually
for
operations,
in
addition
to
the
two
million
that
they
put
in
for
the
for
the
acquisition
and
we're
we're
looking
at
preparing
another
proposal
to
to
help
with
the
renovations
as
well.
C
Okay,
that
makes
more
sense.
Okay,
homeward
bound
folks.
Have
you
all
I'm
just
curious?
I
know
I've
been
talking
with
you
all.
You
know
privately,
even
for
a
long
time
on
this
project,
with
all
of
the
room
numbers
and
relocating
the
offices
there
and
all
of
the
wraparound
services
and
stuff.
Can
anyone
speak
to
how
85
rooms
was
chosen?
As
a
you
know,
I'm
just
curious:
did
you
look
at
more
or
is?
Was
85
really
the
cap
after
you
balanced
out
office,
space
needs
and
so
on.
M
Sure
I'm
going
to
ask
jim
to
mute
himself
just
so
that
we
don't
run
into
problems
there.
I
think
jenny
can
speak
to
this.
This
is
really,
I
think,
going
on
model
other
models
that
we've
seen
in
other
places
and
best
practices
and
what
they
have
seen
in
terms
of
kind
of
what
are
the
thresholds
for
a
successful
project
of
this
kind,
but
I'm
going
to
let
jenny
speak
to
that
as
the
expert.
N
N
N
M
Thank
you
so
I'll.
Just
add
to
that
also
that,
in
addition
to
the
staff
office,
spaces
that
will
be
in
the
building,
there
will
also
be
clinical
space
and
and
other
space
where
our
community
partners
can
come
in
to
offer
wraparound
surface
services
additional
services
to
what
homeward
bound
offers
to
our
clients.
N
Yes,
there'll
be
services
like
we'll,
have
a
medical
clinic
here
on
site,
we'll
have
a
peer
living
room
here
on
site,
as
well
as
opportunities
for
us
to
bring
in
mental
health
providers
and
some
space
for
organizations
like
mana
to
offer
food
assistance.
So
we
really
want
to
create
and
leave
some
space
available
for
other
providers
to
be
able
to
come
in
and
also
meet
the
needs
of
folks
in
the
community.
C
I
just
had
that
open.
It
looks
like
a
1.4
will
remain
after
that
includes
leaving
in
the
pine
view
and
other
condo
project
it's
in
our.
In
fact,
I
really
wish
I
had
called
this
out
during
our
community
updates.
The
new
spreadsheet
for
housing
trust
fund
looks
great
and
is
much
easier
to
read
and
if
you
all
find
that
so
it
says
our
looks
like
fiscal
year,
2022
estimated
housing
trust
fund
will
be
2.8
million.
That
includes
the
million
dollars
for
both
catcher
vistas
and
pine
view,
1.2
million
in
it.
I
When
you
talk
about
bueno,
vista
and
pineview,
those
are
the
two
return
funds
right.
C
H
I
love
the
work.
I
appreciate
the
work
again
99
years
has
given
me
concern
it's
making
me
wonder.
Under
what
other
circumstances
do
we
afford
organizations
the
same
opportunity
and
are
we
setting
ourselves
up.
C
That's
why
mostly,
I
brought
this
up
too
in
discussion.
I
think
with
a
city
staff
wondering
procedurally
so
there's
a
couple
options.
I
see
because
council
council
by
vote
moves
money
in
and
out
of
the
housing
trust
fund,
and
you
know
so
it
seems
like
there's
a
path.
I
don't
know
that
this
is
the
best
path,
but
just
to
put
everything
on
the
table,
council
could
vote
to
reduce
the
balance
in
the
housing
trust
fund
and
to
reallocate
it
for
a
affordable
for
this
homeless
project.
C
D
And
just
for
a
little
bit
of
clarity
around
the
trust
fund.
Back
to
that
point
like
right
now,
if
those
two
partnerships
don't
work
out,
we
would
have
about
4.5
million
in
housing,
trust
fund,
and
but
we
are
trying
to
work
with
those
partners
to
see
what
we
can
do
there.
There
should
be
more
coming
soon
on
that
and
yes
there
it
could
be
the
by
veering
off
policy.
It
does
potentially
set
a
precedent.
D
I
don't
know
if
somewhere
in
the
motion,
if
this
was
agreed
upon,
that
you
know
the
special
circumstance,
and
that
might
be
a
janus
question
that
because
it's
a
100
targeting
homelessness,
that's
why
this
was
considered
which
would
set
up
a
policy
change.
I
believe
in
the
future
whether
that
would
be
changed
not
exactly
sure
legally.
If
that's
the
way
to
do
it,
if
you
all
decided,
but
that
was
just
the
thought
that
we
had.
F
At
on
staff
level,
it.
C
D
C
How
we're
bound
folks
are,
is
there
a,
I
know,
with
the
2
million
that
we
did
for
our
acquisition?
There
was
a
timeline
that
was
pressing.
Is
there
a
pressing
timeline
on
this
month
in
this
decision.
M
That
was
a
very
good
question.
I
I
think
I
can
let
jim
answer
the
question
in
terms
of
the
timeline
for
fundraising.
We
are
in
the
quiet
phase
of
the
campaign
and
moving
into
the
final
months
of
that
process,
and
so
that's
that's
part
of
the
timeliness
of
this
but
jim.
M
If
you
want
to
speak
to
that
more
fully,
we
do
expect
to
start
the
renovation
process
in
early
2022
and
so
want
to
have
as
many
of
the
funds
in
place
as
we
can
when
that
goes
forward,
so
that
we're
in
a
good
position
with
the
gc
okay.
C
O
Yes,
and
I
I
think
that
would
be
fine
for
us-
we're
trying
to
wrap
up
the
quiet
face,
which
is
the
larger
gifts
to
to
make
this
all
work
by
the
end
of
january,
so
so
that
we
can
go
into
what's
called
the
public
campaign.
But
that's
that's
more
widespread
support,
but
it's
also
contributions
of
25
and
a
hundred
dollars.
And
that
sort
of
thing-
and
so
you
you
don't
really
you
you
don't
get
as
much
for
your
work
and
and
certainly
the
the
amount
there
would
probably
be
under
a
million
dollars.
C
I
don't
know
if
it's
my
play,
I'm
sorry.
If
I'm
interrupting
people,
I
have
a
little
delay.
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
buys
us
a
little
time
to
discuss
policy
change
potential
and
to
get
us
closer
to
the
arpa
award
and
to
know
if
those
grants
requests
are
possibly
in
line
with
the
county
too.
C
D
D
So
you
could
separate
out
the
costs
there,
but
overall,
if
it's
a
7.1
million
dollar
rehab,
repurpose
and
you're
strictly
looking
at
the
85
units
again,
this
is
a
bit
of
a
not
quite
apples
to
oranges
here
that
comes
in
at
83
500
per
unit.
But
again,
there's
also
other
aspects
of
what
they're
doing
with
this
building
that
are
outside
of
the
permanent
support
of
housing
units.
D
The
cost
for
fifty
thousand
dollars
per
hotel
unit
is
just
rehab
fyi
that
that
price
that
you
mentioned
wasn't
a
purchase
in
rehab.
That's
a
that
50
000
average
is
just
for
rehab
and
other
data
that
we've
looked
at
with,
like
charlotte,
hotels,
etc,
and
I
think
that's
a
maybe
a
closer
to
like
55
sage,
for
what
it's
worth.
E
That's
right
and
chairperson,
if
you
don't
mind,
I
would
love
if
you
all
would
consider
deferring
so
that
staff
can
come
back
and
respond
to
the
question
that
miss
mosley
pulls
in
terms
of
policy
and
if
we're
going
to
recommend
a
policy
change
or
differentiate
between
you
know
those
developers
that
are
doing
deeply
affordable,
which
I
think
is
essentially
what
this
proposal
is
recommending.
So
if,
if
you
all
don't
mind,
we
would
love
to
come
back
with
additional
information,
even
though
it
won't
be
paul
delivering
the
message,
and
we
definitely
will
miss
that.
C
I
think
that's,
it
sounds
like
that's
where
we're
headed.
It
sounds
like
several
requests,
so
both
additional
information
on
equity
and
selection
of
tenants
we
needed
what
was
the
we
wanted,
requests
around
policy
change.
There
was
a
third
one.
O
C
D
But
that
is
not
something
that
is
in
the
policy,
and
maybe
that
is
something
else
to
discuss
in
the
aspect
of,
I
think
a
lot
of
times
folks
come
to
the
city
and
and
kind
of
want
the
city
to
move
first
on
funding
which
helps
a
domino
effect
with
the
other
funding,
and
so
that
that
isn't
in
the
policy-
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
another
part
of
the
discussion,
I
know
for
the
acquisition
the
county
put
in
2
million
dogwood
put
in
2
million
for
this
rehab
repurpose.
D
It
looks
like
a
million
from
the
county,
nothing
from
dogwood
on
the
repurpose
of
the
building,
but
but
certainly
that
could
be
a
part
of
the
discussion.
Historically,
it
seems
especially
over
the
last
year.
Where's.
The
city
first
seems
to
be
the
always
the
question
that
city
management
has
to
deal
with
right
away.
C
The
city
first
is
always
hard
just
in
development
in
general.
You
know
we
just
don't
want
to
be
the
funder
on
the
line
that
and
they
can't
get
to
a
co.
You
know
so
ensuring
that
all
the
funding
is
needed,
that
our
investment
will
land
them
with
an
operable
project
is
where
I'm
coming
from,
but
it
sounds
like
there's
some
due
diligence
and
questions
to
be
asked
and
that
we're
going
to
continue
this
item
to
our
next
hcd
meeting,
which
would
be
in
january
and
I'm
sorry.
Well,
we
have
one
in
december.
F
D
That
is
on
the
discussion,
for
when
we
get
done
our
staff
reports
to
yep.
C
D
So
we
have
reached
out
to
boards
and
commissions
to
see
if
there
was
potentially
another
date-
and
I
believe
also
bryce
and
shoku-
is
our
staff
representative
here
for
this
meeting
have
talked
about
looking
at
potentially
another
different
date,
but
we're
not
sure
the
will
of
it
of
the
hcg
council
members.
C
Okay,
so
we
could
leave
it
like
that
that
if
it
becomes
an
important
thing
that
we
can
do,
we
can
reschedule
a
meeting
if
we
have
to
remove
from
the
week
of
christmas.
Okay,
I
don't
think
we
need
a
motion
to
continue
this.
I
think
we're
just
giving
you
some
action
statements
there
homeward
bound
to
come
back
and
for
staff
to
discuss
and
come
back
to
us
with
some
ideas
around
policy
or
not
policy.
C
I
And
I
will
add
to
that
discussion
if
you
all
can
come
back
with
just
give
me
some
type
of
idea
about
your
operations,
because
you're
serving
such
a
vulnerable
population
and.
I
M
Lost
the
end
of
the
question
I
I
heard
through
keeping
our
residents
safe
based
on
the
corridor
and
and
but
I
believe
there
was
a
little
more
to
the
question
after
that.
C
C
We
answer
all
of
their
questions
all
right.
That
means
we
have
this
next
meeting
topic
to
discuss.
It
doesn't
sound
like
we
necessarily
have
enough
information
at
the
moment
to
discuss
whether
we
can
have
this
meeting.
It
sounds
like
there's
an
email
to
boards
and
commissions
and
general
flushing
out
of
holiday
scheduling
are
councilwoman.
C
D
I
have
nothing,
I'm
just
grateful,
eternally
so
councilwoman
turner,
councilwoman,
mosley
and
councilwoman
smith.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
letting
me
represent
the
city
at
these
meetings
and
quickly
just
a
huge
thank
you
to
the
cd
team.
I
work
with
a
bunch
of
introverts,
so
they
push
me
out
to
the
camera,
but
jonathan
jones,
megan,
gaskell,
brian
husky,
nancy
williams,
alex
mitchener,
christina
harris
emily
ball
laura
near.
I
know
I'm
going
to
forget
somebody
but
there's
a
whole
cd
team
behind
that
and
somebody
text
me
who
I
missed.
D
I
know
I
miss
somebody
in
there
mary,
brooke
cox,
who
is
great,
so
they're
a
great
team
and
you're
in
good
hands,
and
they
really
work
hard
and
care
about
this
work.
And
we
appreciate
this
so
you
hear
my
voice,
but
it's
it's
their
work,
often
that
that
flies
to
the
top
and
I'm
eternally
grateful
for
working
with
them
and
nikki
for
our
partnership
always
and
forever,
and
council
or
city
manager,
deborah
campbell.
Thank
you
as
well
for
all
your
work
with
me
and
leadership.
D
C
Thank
you,
paul
really
well
said,
and
to
the
whole
cd
staff-
and
you
know
it
is,
it
should
be
said.
When
the
pandemic
hit.
This
department
took
the
biggest
hit.
They
worked
more
and
harder
than
any
other
department
it
they
got
slaughtered.
So
I
appreciate
you
sticking
with
us
through
such
chaos
and
all
of
the
cd
staff.
I
know
you
all
been
asked
to
do
a
lot
in
this
time
and
we
just
appreciate
it.
D
We
are
proud
of
16
million
dollars
back
into
the
community,
500
draw
requests
and
100
contracts,
we've
been
busy
and
happy
to
do
it
as
public
servants
and
I'm
happy
to
do
it
under
your
guidance
and
leadership
and
and
particularly
partnerships.
So
we're
very
grateful
I'll,
miss
everybody,
but
I'm.
I
I
want
to
say
something
I
remember
when
paul
came
on
board,
I
was
so
excited
about
him.
His
presentation
was
impeccable.
I
You
are
definitely
a
superstar,
but
I
think
what
the
selling
point
for
me
is
that
I
sense
you
have
a
purity
of
heart
so
continue
forward
and
all
you
do
we
put
a
lot
of
trust
in
you
at
least
I
did
when
things
are
shocked
by
you
and
giving
your
approval.
You
know
I
felt
more
confident
that
you
put
a
lot
of
time
and
work
into
it
and
you
led
your
team
towards.
You
know
a
certain
outcome.
I
think
that's
very
important,
you're
a
great
guy
and
I'm
good
luck
in
all.
You
do.
H
D
Well-
and
I
I
appreciate
those
conversations-
tough
ones
as
well
are
just
as
important,
if
not
more
so
than
the
the
good
ones.
Thank
you.