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B
Good
morning,
I'm
Vice
major
Shanika
Smith
and
the
chair
of
the
Public
Safety
Committee
I'd,
like
to
welcome
you
all
to
our
September
27th
meeting,
all
council
members
and
staff
for
participating
virtually
to
help
our
audience
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along
I'll
State.
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of
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agenda
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are
streaming
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the
virtual
engagement
Hub,
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city
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option
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the
public
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B
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B
B
Okay,
while
they're
troubleshooting
fire
chiefs,
not
Burnett
good.
F
B
B
And
while
they're
working
it
out,
I
think
we
do
have
some
folks
in
the
speaker
queue
for
public
comment,
so
we'll
go
on
and
work
through
public
comment.
Jenna,
do
we
have
anybody
in
the
speaker
queue.
E
Oh,
thank
you.
My
name
is
Tom
tesser
and
my
wife
is
here
with
me:
Joyce
Richie,
we
are
residents
of
the
Beaver
Dam
area
in
in
Asheville
and
I
have
a
few
points
that
I
want
to
go
over.
First
of
all,
I
want
wanted
to
unequivocally
support
both
our
fire
departments
and
our
police
departments,
because
without
a
safe
City
we
are
not
a
civil
City.
E
I
have
some
specific
issues
I
am
going
to
take
off.
One
is
that
Kim
Roney
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
does
not
support
our
police.
This
woman
on
the
council
had
voted
to
not
accept
a
Federal
grant
to
give
our
police
officers
a
bulletproof
vests
and
when
it
was
going
to
come
from
a
Federal
grant,
not
of
course
the
city
of
penny
and
I.
Just
to
me,
it's
just
absolute.
We
want
to
see
how
you
would
not
vote
to
protect
our
people
who
protect
our
citizens.
E
Also.
The
fact
that
there
does
not
seem
to
be
support
for
our
Police
Department
from
city
council
to
me
is
abhorrent
year.
To
date,
some
statistics
59
increase
in
armed
robberies.
Violent
crime
is
up
34
since
last
year,
and
this
year
APD
has
investigated
78
armed
robberies
versus
last
year
when
they
had
49,
with
a
short
increase
in
knives
and
impact
weapons
being
used
in
our
robberies,
Tim
specific
to
you,
you
see
Violent
Crime
assuring
it
yet.
E
You
said
and
I
quote:
if
we
lose
more
officers
and
they
leave
Asheville,
the
streets
will
be
safer
to
me.
What
what
are
you
smoking,
but
you
can't
be
serious
when
you
say
this.
E
I
would
like
to
see
somebody
in
office
who
would
like
to
respond
to
the
woman
who
was
beaten
with
a
bat
and
left
in
the
river
or
how
about
the
couple
that
was
mugged
to
Beaver
Lake,
or
perhaps
the
person
on
marimon,
who
was
jumped
by
two
people
and
beaten
with
bats,
or
maybe
the
woman's
family
who
was
left
dead
in
a
shallow
grave
under
a
pile
of
trash
and
needles,
or
the
recent
homeless
person
who
was
beaten
by
a
bat.
E
His
tents
then
on
fire
we
are,
it
is
not
anecdotal,
it
is
factual,
it
is.
It
is
experiential
that
we
are
experiencing
an
increase
in
violent
crime.
The
there
are
many
residents
in
this
city
who
are
afraid
to
go
downtown.
My
wife
works
in
a
small
store
across
the
street
from
tops
and
I
am
concerned
about
her
being
in
that
store
alone.
All
day
with
what
is
going
on,
she
has
already
experienced
one
shoplifting
incident,
and
this
is
just
not
acceptable.
E
I
can
go
on
and
on
with
the
overdose
steps
with
fentanyl
and
us
not
accepting
the
high
intensity
drug
trafficking
grants
that
these
programs
Target
I,
don't
know
why
you
wouldn't
accept
that
I
am
I.
G
G
How
does
it
make
sense
to
have
someone
on
a
Public,
Safety
Committee
that
doesn't
believe
in
supporting
Law
and
Order
and
or
the
already
struggling
APD
remove
her
now,
as
she
does
not
represent
me
or
the
majority
of
your
constituents
and
we're
respectfully
done
with
her
year
to
date,
there's
a
59
increase
in
arms,
robberies,
violent
crimes
up
34.
Since
last
year
the
APD
has
investigated
78
armed
robberies
versus
last
year.
When
they
had
49.
G
Tim,
you
see
violent
crime
is
soaring,
and
yet
you
say
and
I
quote:
if
we
lose
more
officers
and
they
leave
Asheville,
the
streets
will
be
safer.
How
is
this
acceptable?
You
see
the
rise
in
violent
crime,
and
yet
you
still
don't
believe
police
officers
need
free,
bulletproof,
vests
overdose
deaths
specifically
from
fentanyl,
are
hurting
our
community
and
yet
for
years
you
have
voted
down
the
high
intensity,
drug
trafficking
area,
grants
that
targets
high
traffic
areas
of
Asheville
I'd
like
to
know
what
you
would
say
to
the
families
who
lost
loved
ones
to
fentanyl
overdose.
G
Yesterday
there
was
a
WLOS
story
where
low-income
neighbors
begged
for
more
police
presence
and
support
in
their
neighborhoods.
You
always
use
the
black
and
brown
Community
as
political
chattel
and
yet-
and
this
is
no
different-
all
talks,
no
action.
What
do
you
say
to
them?
Being
a
defund
Advocate,
you
claim
to
speak
for
the
black
community,
but
you
aren't
even
listening
to
the
their
pleas
for
help.
Your
votes,
words
and
actions
were
encounter
to
your
duty
to
this
city
and
the
people
you
claim
to
represent.
G
You
should
be
ashamed
to
show
your
face
on
this
committee
as
Sir.
You
should
remove
and
put
a
council
member
in
who
actually
works
to
represent
the
people
of
Asheville
immediately,
and
we
will
not
rest
until
this
is
done.
Asheville,
if
this
woman
isn't
removed,
she
will
be
instrumental
in
our
downfall.
G
Our
police
and
our
citizens
deserve
better
than
having
this
limit
as
a
Public,
Safety,
Committee
Member,
a
council
member
and
a
specialty,
a
mayor
I
encourage
you
all
to
call
for
her
removal,
but
mostly
I,
encourage
you
to
vote
for
Esther
in
November,
because
if
you
don't
him
is
what
we're
left
with,
and
unless
you
want
a
mass
at
citizens
of
APD
officers
who
are
already
shortstop
and
a
further
down
fall
of
this
city.
That's
what
has
to
be
done
and
Kim
respectfully.
H
Good
morning
you
guys
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
giving
the
citizens
of
Asheville
the
opportunity
to
join
this
meeting
today.
Let
me
start
by
saying
that
I'm
actually
born
and
raised
Michigan
I
lived
in
Detroit
I
left
Flint
I
was
born
in
Pontiac
years
ago,
when
I
was
younger,
those
used
to
be
the
more
violent
cities.
I
guess
you
would
say,
with
the
headlinings
and
whatnot
with
the
violent
crimes.
My
family
on
my
mother's
side
has
roots
here
in
Asheville
as
they
have
ever
since
I
can
remember.
H
My
grandparents
have
always
lived
here.
My
aunt
went
to
school
here
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
as
children,
my
sister
and
I
always
came
to
Asheville,
and
it
was
a
city
where
there
were.
It
was
a
better,
a
better
feeling
of
of
feeling
safe
and
whatnot
as
opposed
to
what
I
was
used
to
coming
from
Pontiac
Flint
in
Detroit.
H
This
is
not
the
case
recently.
I,
don't
feel
that
safety
I
have
two
children,
one
is
17
years
old
and
he
himself
has
experience
within
our
neighborhood
in
our
yard,
in
our
front
yard
and
the
feeling
of
not
having
the
importance
of
the
police
being
able
to
attend
to
our
Aid
in
immediate
action.
H
H
This
is
obviously
a
concern
of
safety
and,
in
my
opinion,
I
do
not
feel
that
Kim
is
actually
focusing
on
these
things
to
get
a
little
bit
more
personal
before
I
cut
this
off,
because
I
don't
want
to
take
all
three
minutes.
I
would
like
to
allow
other
people
to
speak.
H
I
have
seen
the
ramifications
of
the
drugs
that
are
taking
over
the
city
on
a
personal
level
within
my
family.
There
is
way
too
much
easy
access
for
this
and
I
just
feel
that
something
needs
to
be
focused
on
in
in
a
bigger
light
and
I
I.
Just
don't
feel
that
that
woman
to
help
us
do
that
is
Ken
again
I'm
a
resident
over
on
the
east
side
of
Asheville
and
I.
Think,
as
everybody
knows,
we've
seen
the
increasing
volumes
of
the
the
lack
of
safety
for
our
community.
I
I
I
I've,
probably
been
more
critical
of
the
police
force
than
any
other
department
in
in
the
city
of
Nashville,
simply
because
probably
I
see
more
of
the
results
of
their
performance
or
lack
thereof,
but
I'd
like
to
see
a
police
department
reform
I
can't
call
up
social
worker
about
the
guy
who
fires
a
40,
caliber
automatic
pistol
out
in
front
of
my
house
at
5
30
on
a
Sunday
morning
or
about
the
parole
violator
down
the
down
a
street
who's
strolled
by
my
house
with
a
couple
of
companions
drunk
twice
one
Saturday
night
and
then
the
next
thing
I
hear
is
a
woman's
sake.
I
Get
your
hands
off
of
me
all
right,
I
I,
don't
feel
safe
in
Asheville
anymore,
Merriman,
Avenue
and
I.
Understand,
Tunnel
Road
have
become
drag
strips
and
you'd
think
we'd
never
pass
a
noise
ordinance
from
the
sound
of
the
Mufflers
out.
There
I
support
the
chief
and
hope
that
he
can
recruit
enough
officers
to
come
back
up
to
speed.
I
I
think
we
do
need
some
help
from
the
social
services,
but
25
years
ago
our
legislature
disbanded
effectively
the
mental
health
system
in
North
Carolina,
so
we're
left
with
picking
folks
who
need
help
up
taking
them
out
to
Copestone.
They
keep
them
for
three
days
and
turn
them
out
again.
The
cycle
repeats
itself,
but
I
do
not
support
these
funding
the
police.
Thank
you.
J
Good
morning
my
name
is
Jim
Fulton
I'm
in
South,
Asheville,
I
call
for
Esther
mannheimer
and
the
other
members
of
city
council
to
remove
Roney
from
this
committee.
She
is
not
representing
me
and
appears
to
place
her
priorities
on
her
Personal
Agenda,
to
hinder
the
police
in
their
efforts
to
restore
order
in
this
once
beautiful
city,
where
I
can
no
longer
go
downtown,
I
have
observed
drug
use
and
drug
sales
in
the
local
grocery
store
parking
lot.
J
I
I
can't
call
the
police
because
they
have
more
important
things
to
to
be
working
on.
They
need
to
be
solving
aggravated
assaults,
rapes,
murders.
What
is
this
woman
doing
on
this
committee?
I
mean
she's,
not
helping.
She
has
no
interest
in
the
public
safety
of
the
majority
of
citizens
in
the
city.
I
I
hope
that
you
can
find
some
way
to
remove
her
from
this
committee.
A
We'll
go
back
to
them
at
the
end
caller
ending
in
two
two
six:
six,
if
you
can
mute
whatever
device
you're
watching
the
meeting
on
I'll
come
back
to
you
at
the
end,
color
ending
in
zero.
Two
six,
seven,
your
line
is
open.
K
You
I
live
within
the
Asheville
City
Limits
and
I've
lived
here
for
about
20
years
I'm,
calling
to
lend
my
support
for
the
current
police
force
and
the
fire
department.
We
really
need
them
now
more
than
ever
and
I'm
appreciative
of
the
work
that
they
are
doing.
I
call
for
the
mayor
to
remove
councilwoman
Kim
Roney
from
the
public
safety
committee.
Since
her
voting
history
has
shown
she
does
not
support
our
police
scores.
K
F
Yes,
this
is
Everett
patillo
I'm,
a
local
I
was
born
and
raised
in
Buncombe
County,
and
you
know
the
the
way
the
city
has
changed.
You
know
it's
really
becoming
difficult
for
my
family
to
even
walk
up
and
down
the
streets
and
enjoy
you
know
beautiful
Asheville.
We
have
a
great
police
chief
and
anyone
that
does
not
wish
to
support
him
honestly
needs
to
be
removed
from
this
committee.
F
You
know,
Asheville
has
changed
so
much
and
we
just
want
to
have
it
the
way
it
was
for
everyone
can
enjoy
the
freedoms
of
the
mountains
and
enjoy
the
beauty
of
the
mountains.
So
you
know
I
respectfully
request
that
Kim
Rooney
be
removed
from
this
committee
because
of
her
wishing
to
defund
the
police
and
non-support
of
the
police
in
Asheville.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
caller
ending
in
6539.
Your
line
is
open.
B
B
M
M
The
Asheville
Police
Department
entered
into
a
new
Consolidated
five-year
contract
with
axon
on
December
15th
of
2020
for
our
existing
body,
worn
camera,
taser
program,
our
fleet,
vehicle
in-car
camera
program
and
our
interview
room
platform.
We
had
previously
been
managing
three
separate
five-year
contracts
for
these
programs.
Each
had
a
different
start
and
end
date,
as
well
as
different
invoicing
dates.
M
When
axon
generated
the
Consolidated
quote
for
the
new
contract,
the
original
five-year
terms
for
licensing
from
each
of
the
original
contracts
was
retained
instead
of
extending
them
through
the
end
of
this
new
five-year
contracts
term.
These
unlimited
annual
payments
include
storage
on
evidence.com,
product
warranties
and
the
licensing
of
our
equipment.
M
Next
slide,
this
contract
Amendment
will
add
in
these
required
missing
fees
for
our
fleet
vehicle
cameras
for
the
last
three
years
of
the
contract,
as
well
as
the
missing
fee.
For
our
interview
room
platform
for
the
last
year
of
the
contract
at
the
price
points
they
would
have
been
originally
included
in
back
in
2020..
M
M
B
I'll,
do
a
roll
call
vote
for
approval,
councilwoman,
Kilgore,
aye,
councilman
moroney
I
am
myself
action
moves
forward,
we'll
move
to
the
next
discussion
on
the
agenda.
B
Chief
Zach
He
he'll.
Don't
he's
going
to
provide
us
an
update
on
violent
crime
data
and
strategies
just.
O
Come
thank
you
vice
mayor
next
slide.
Please
key
takeaways
from
this
presentation.
Although
violent
crime
Trends
are
discouraging,
APD
is
committed
to
ensuring
Asheville
is
a
safe
place
to
live.
Do
business
shop
recreate
and
visit
year-to-date
violent
crime
is
trending
at
a
historically
High
rates
and
that's
occurring
both
nationally
and
here.
In
Asheville,
Asheville's
increase
in
violent
crime
is
driven
primarily
by
a
44
percent
increase
in
aggravated
assaults.
O
In
spite
of
the
serious
deficit
of
resources,
APD
is
aggressively
deploying
officers
to
respond
to
various
types
of
crimes,
especially
violent
crime,
to
effectively
to
effectively
address
increasing
crime
in
our
community.
We
must
reimagine
and
assume
Public
Safety
as
a
responsibility
of
every
sector
of
our
community.
O
O
This
is
our
year
to
date,
violent
crime.
You
could
see
two
twenty
twenty
between
2021
and
today,
a
very,
very
sharp
increase
in
violent
crime.
So
far
in
2022
versus
2021.
O
Please
please
this
is
kind
of
an
overall
view
of
this
city
and
where
those
sharp
areas
in
red
are
where
our
violent
crime
is
occurring
in
the
center
of
the
map.
There,
that's
primarily
in
our
downtown
area
and
in
some
of
our
public
housing,
affordable
housing
complexes,
but
it
seems
to
be
very
well
concentrated,
but,
as
you
can
see,
it
is
spread
out
pretty
much
between
eight
and
nine
different
areas
in
the
city
where
we're
seeing
the
majority
of
violent
crime
occurring.
O
O
Next,
please
again,
the
sharp
increase
in
violent
crime
is
mostly
attributed
to
aggravated
assault
where
we've
seen
a
44
increase
from
21
2021
to
2022..
Just
so,
you
know
and
understand,
aggravated
assaults
needs
to
involve
Serious
injury
or
the
use
of
a
deadly
weapon
to
be
categorized
as
aggravated
assault,
so
definitely
a
sharp
increase
from
2021
to
2022
year
to
date.
O
Next,
please,
and
you
can
see
similar
to
the
overall
violent
crime
rate
when
we
map
that
out,
it's
occurring
generally
in
the
same
areas
and
I
think
you'll
see
that
consistent
with
all
of
the
violent
crime
that
we're
dealing
with
that
it's
generally
the
same
areas.
O
Robbery
year
to
date
not
a
historic
high,
but
definitely
an
increase
over
where
we
were
in
2021,
where
we've
seen
a
31
percent
increase
in
robbery
again
not
to
the
historic
levels
we
saw
in
2014,
but
still
a
significant
increase
from
last
year.
O
O
O
This
is
really
when
we're
looking
at
our
violent
crime
when
we're
dealing
with
sex,
offenses
and
rape.
This
is
the
only
area
where
we
have
seen
a
decrease
of
23
percent
decrease
from
20
21
to
2022.,
but
as
we
go
to
the
next
slide
again,
the
areas
where
we're
seeing
these
offenses
committed
are
generally
in
the
same
areas
and
again
this
is
where
we're
deploying
our
resources
most
heavily.
O
Shots
fired
call.
This
was
a
concern
of
us
that
we
brought
to
the
attention
of
Public
Safety
back
in
2020.
When
we
were,
we
saw
a
record
number
of
shots
fired
calls.
We
made
a
concerted
effort
to
reduce
the
number
of
those
calls
through
the
deployment
of
our
officers
in
areas
where
those
shots
fire
calls
were
occurring.
We
saw
a
decrease
in
2021
and
we're
continuing
to
see
a
decrease
in
22.,
so
that
is
a
positive
sign
that
we're
seeing
we're
responding
to
fewer
shots,
fired
calls.
O
Next,
please,
what
we
haven't
seen
is
a
decrease
in
the
number
of
people
being
hit
by
gunfire.
So
you
can
see
we
had
20
in
2020
we
had
30
32
persons
struck
by
gunfire.
We
did
see
a
reduction
in
2021,
but
in
2022
we
are
now
back
to
the
2020
number,
which
obviously
is
a
tremendous
concern
to
us
next,
please.
O
O
In
2020
and
you've
heard
me
talk
about
our
tip
line
many
many
times.
It
continues
to
be
very
successful.
We're
continuing
to
get
a
large
degree
of
community
support.
We've
received
over
3
200
submissions
since
its
launch
in
December
of
2020..
So
far
in
2022
APD
has
received
1287
tip
submissions
through
our
tip
line.
On
average,
we
receive
100
tips
from
the
community
per
month.
O
O
Simultaneously,
a
gun,
violence,
firearm
offender
working
group
was
formulated
to
handle
major
gun
crime
investigations.
This
group,
which
is
led
by
APD,
includes
attorneys
from
the
DA's
office
and
the
U.S
attorney's
Office,
our
federal
Partners
ATF,
the
FBI,
the
U.S
Marshals
DEA
state,
probation,
parole
and
a-ele
are
all
part
of
this
working
group.
O
O
Sex
unit
is
an
area
that
we've
made
significant
progress
in
it,
I
would
dare
to
say
in
Western
North
Carolina.
We
have
one
of
the
best
trained
best
equipped
forensic
units
out
there,
we've
already
invested
in
ballistics
IQ,
which
is
a
portable
device
that
allows
firearm
cartridges
to
be
scanned
and
analyzed
more
quickly
to
link
gun
crime
investigations.
Together,
we
are
in
the
process
of
purchasing
a
rapid,
DNA
analyzer,
which
will
return
results
in
90
minutes
as
opposed
to
what
might
be
a
six
to
eight
month.
O
Wait
on
property
crime
investigations
for
APD
forensic
techs
will
be
attending
the
national
forensics
Academy
in
Knoxville
Tennessee
for
10
weeks
of
advanced
forensic
training.
We
intend
to
have
the
best
trained
forensic
techs
in
this
state
and
we
will
continue
to
ensure
that
they
are
the
best
equipped.
O
O
We
have
12
officers
currently
in
basic
Law
Enforcement
Training
they're,
scheduled
to
graduate
in
November
of
2022
and
complete
field
training
by
April
of
2023.
So
we
do
have
24
Replacements
in
the
pipeline.
Whoever
we
have
to
quash
in
historically
not
all
will
graduate
and
not
all
will
pass
field
training.
O
After
the
contract
with
epic,
recruiting
was
approved
by
Council
in
December,
22
or
I'm.
Sorry,
in
December
of
2021
epic
began
on-site
filming
and
photography
in
March
of
2022..
The
new
recruitment
website,
as
well
as
the
accompanying
social
media
Pages
launched
at
September,
2nd
digital
advertising,
was
launched
on
September
19th.
O
O
We
will
start
to
see
the
back
end
analytical
data
in
the
coming
weeks
in
the
early
part
of
October
to
see
where
our
hits
are
coming
from
and
then
Target
those
areas.
More
specifically,.
O
Next,
please,
we
are
pursuing
Partnerships
to
incorporate
a
violence,
Interruption
strategy
partnering
with
other
community
groups,
the
county
and
non-for-profits
to
strengthen
relationships
between
APD
and
community
members,
especially
youth.
We
recently
co-sponsored
an
event
at
Stevens
Lee
partnering,
with
United
Way,
UNC,
Asheville,
men's
basketball,
team,
clutch,
Parks
and
Recreations
and
Mecca
Mecca
of
Beacon
LLC.
It
was
a
very
well
attended
event.
A
good
time
was
had
by
you
all.
We
made
significant
inroads
with
our
community
outreach.
There.
O
Apd
and
eight
afd
are
coordinating
together
with
the
county,
to
develop
a
community
responder
pilot
program
that
I
believe
we're
going
to
hear
more
about,
and
the
goal
of
this
initiative
is
to
proactively
address
issues
related
to
those
that
are
unsheltered
and
or
experiencing
addiction
or
behavioral
health
issues.
O
So
again,
violent
crime,
Trends
are
discouraging
and
APD
is
doing
all
it
can.
We
are
trending
at
a
historically
High
rate,
but
this
is
occurring
both
nationally
and
in
Asheville.
The
increase
in
violent
crime
has
been
driven
primarily
by
a
44
increase
in
aggravated
assaults,
in
spite
of
our
of
the
serious
deficit
of
resources.
Apd
is
aggressively
deploying
officers
to
respond
to
various
types
of
crimes,
especially
violent
crime,
but
to
effectively
address
increasing
crime
in
our
community.
We
must
reimagine
and
assume
Public
Safety
as
a
responsibility
of
every
sector
of
our
community.
N
This
is
Kim,
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
One
of
the
data
sets
that
I
didn't
see
is
resident
and
daytime
populations
and
when
the
incidence
of
violent
crime
are
happening.
N
N
Additionally,
I
do
agree
that
we
can't
do
it
alone.
We
did
see
two
applications
come
through
the
arpa
covid-19
relief
fund
process
that
weren't
funded
and
I
wondered
if
our
staff
considered
funding
those
applications
within
our
operating
budget
as
potential
pilot
programs
for
improved
Public,
Safety
response.
D
N
So,
to
add
to
the
understanding,
and
also
for
the
public
benefit,
I
would
like
to
support
our
staff
considering
providing
direction
to
at
least
research
those
two
arpa
applications,
one
for
the
transit
center
and
one
for
downtown
central
business
district,
because
we're
currently
not
meeting
our
Public
Safety
obligations
and
continue
to
have
staffing
issues.
So
something
like
that
could
come
perhaps
to
a
future
Public
Safety
Committee
meeting
and.
D
B
Thank
you
any
other
questions
from
the
committee
for
chief
sack
all
right
with
no
other
questions.
Thank
you,
I'm
Chief
Zach
for
presenting
us
that
information
and
the
strategies
you
all
are
using
to
help
offset
crime
in
our
city.
We'll
move
on
to
a
point
that
you
mentioned
within
your
presentation
about
Community
responder
teams,
Chief
Scott
Burnett
will
be
presenting
that.
P
Good
morning,
thank
you
vice
mayor,
so
I'd
like
to
provide
some
information
to
the
committee
about
a
pilot
program,
and
we
have
four
key
takeaways
relative
to
this
program,
and
the
first
is
currently
the
city
of
Asheville's.
Resources
are
focused
on
short-term,
focused
on
the
acute
city
of
actual
resources.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
ability
or
capability
to
address
long-term
care
options
related
to
folks
who
are
experiencing
behavioral
health
issues,
those
who
are
unsheltered,
those
who
are
experiencing
addiction.
P
P
They
call
9-1-1
themselves,
and
so
that's
that's
frequently
how
the
city
of
Asheville
resources
interact
with
those
in
our
community
that
are
experiencing
addiction,
Behavioral,
Health
crises,
folks,
who
are
unsheltered
that
have
emergencies,
and
so
that
those
resources
are
our
firefighters
and
our
police
officers,
and
they
do
an
amazing
job,
responding
to
those
situations
and
and
have
a
good
ability
to
assist
those
folks
with
their
acute
issues.
With
the
short
term,
we
also
contract
with
Homeward
Bound,
to
do
some
proactive,
Outreach
Services
for
unhoused
residents
and
connecting
them
to
available
Community
Resources.
P
So
we
have
a
need
to
leverage
our
existing
resources
in
the
community,
which
are
many
and
enhance
those
Partnerships
with
other
governmental
and
non-profit
agencies
to
to
be
able
to
address
not
just
those
short-term
issues,
but
that
long-term
support,
which
certainly
is,
is
a
big
void.
P
We
will
be
coordinating
heavily
with
the
Buncombe
County
Community
paramedic
collaboration
and
just
to
to
spend
a
few
minutes
talking
about
the
County's
Community
paramedic
program
and
how
the
city
of
Asheville's,
Community
responder
pilot
program
will
support
and
be
complementary
for
this
program
so
that
local
County
Community
Paramedic
program,
their
their
primary
role
and
mission,
is
to
focus
on
opioid
addiction,
and
this
follow-up
service
is
clearly
our
Buncombe
County.
P
Community
paramedic
are
amazing
folks
and
do
amazing
things
and
and
do
a
lot
of
additional
things
in
our
community
or
people
in
our
community,
in
addition
to
just
that
opioid
addiction,
but
that
is
their
primary
role
in
what
they
are
equipped
trained
and
experts
at
for
folks
who
are
suffering
with
opioid
addiction
and
those
follow-up
services.
So
what
our
community
responder
pilot
program
will
likely
do
is
collaborate
and
support
that
Community
Paramedic
program
when
it
comes
to
that
opioid
addiction,
but
also
increase
the
access
to
Community
Resources
in
a
similar
manner.
P
So
what
are
our
next
steps
for
this
proposed
pilot
program
and
right
now?
The
immediate
thing
to
do
is
to
identify
what
those
key
components
of
that
potential
pilot
program
would
include
to
continue
to
review
and
look
at
similar
models
from
other
cities
identify
those
key
Partners
within
our
community.
Both
governmental
and
non-profits.
P
Look
at
a
possible
geographical
area
within
our
city
to
Pilot
the
program
and
then
develop
an
action
plan
to
implement
the
program
and
clearly
that
would
need
to
include
a
budget.
What
that
interdepartmental
approach
is
related
to
Staffing
and
what
resources
and
then
what
roles
our
partners
would
have.
Specifically,
the
Buncombe
County's
Behavioral
Health
Justice
Coalition,
our
community
paramedics
with
Buncombe
County,
all
of
our
non-profits
in
our
community,
and
also
the
Department
of
Health
and
Human
Services.
P
So
in
summary,
our
key
takeaways
again
are.
Currently
we
have
the
ability
to
respond
for
the
acute
for
the
short
term.
We
don't
have
a
model
currently
that
adequately
addresses
long-term
care
options
and
solutions,
and
so
in
alignment
with
City
council's
reimagining
Public
Safety
strategic
priority,
we're
looking
at
developing
a
multi-disciplinary
community
responder
pilot
program
to
address
those
very
long-term
care
options
and
issues.
P
We
are
currently
in
the
development
phase
and
over
the
next
several
months,
we'll
coordinate
with
our
stakeholders
in
the
county
and
our
non-profits
to
finalize
this
concept
and
likely
we'll
be
coming
back
to
this
Committee
in
November,
with
an
update
on
the
progress
of
the
development
of
this
program.
So
that
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
C
I,
don't
have
any
questions.
Scott
would
I'd
like
to
basically
commend
you
on
this
program.
C
This
is
something
that
is
much
needed
and
I
appreciate
you
Spirit,
hitting
on
this
process
and
and
I
really
think
it
will
definitely
make
a
big
difference
in
our
community
by
bringing
everyone
on
board
and
having
someone
to
actually
oversee
the
process,
and
also
that
I
could
just
also
thank
police
that
happens
that,
with
this
report,
it
is
basically
by
being
able
to
to
see
the
positive
results
of
the
Epic
programs
being
able
to
increase
the
amount
of
policemen
in
this
said
about
time.
C
N
This
is
Kim,
I
have
a
few
questions,
but
to
start
and
to
Echo
appreciation.
Thank
you
for
looking
at
this
opportunity
to
diversify
our
Public
Safety
response
and
add
to
our
toolkit.
I
am
curious
as
we
are
considering
this.
Can
we
plan
on
getting
an
update
from
the
Buncombe
County
Community
paramedicine?
We
haven't
heard
from
them
in
a
while
I
expect
they
have
new
data
sets
and
outcomes.
Since
the
last
time
they
presented.
D
Absolutely
Miss
Ronnie
when
I
get
to
the
Future
agenda
topics
in
the
committee
work
plan.
It
is
scheduled
for
an
update
in
November.
At
the
same
time
when
we're
having
a
community
responder
team
update
as
well.
So
we
can
see
one
of
the
integration
of
those
initiatives.
I
did
see
that
thank
you
scheduled
in
November,
so.
N
N
A
capital
and
operations
cost
comparison
when
we
look
at
piloting
our
own
program
versus
Contracting
with
the
county
who
has
existing
and
growing
services
that
are
so
closely
connected
to
their
core
service
of
Health
and
Human
Services,
and
then
also
what
is
the
cost
of
Staff
time
to
to
prepare
and
develop
this
program
when
there's
one
that
exists
so
I
think
I
want
to
hold
the
container
for
both
excitement
that
we're
that
we're
finally
getting
some
traction
on
doing
our
own
program
and
also,
when
I
see
just
Transit
as
an
example
with
having
two
management
facilities.
N
Two
sets
of
Staff
two
sets
of
capital
costs.
What
is
the
cost
to
Asheville
and
Buncombe
taxpayers
if
we
risk
duplicating
something
like
this
again?
So
some
of
those
side-by-side
comparisons
for
Capital
and
operations
would
help
me
better
understand
that
yeah.
D
And
at
this
point
in
time
we
will
not
be
able
to
do
that
effectively
because
again
we
are
just
kind
of
launching
and
thinking
about
this
program,
maybe
January
or
February.
We
will
have
a
little
bit
more
information
and
can
go
into
a
little
bit
more
more
detail.
And
again
we
have
thought
a
lot
about
whether
this
is
duplicating
efforts.
We
think
that
it
isn't
but
I
will
I
will
let
Chief
Burnett
speak
to
that
more.
P
Yeah,
absolutely
so
we
we
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
completely
complementary
and
not
a
duplication
or
even
even
competitive.
That's
probably
not
the
best
word,
but
we
we
have
been
talking
with
Taylor
Jones,
with
Buncombe
County
and
Claire
Hubbard
with
Buncombe
County,
specifically
as
as
we
talk
about
this
idea-
and
they
are
completely
in
support
of
this
complementary
program
to
to
expand
the
capability,
the
community
Paramedic
program
is
is
specific
to
opioid
response
and
as
they
respond
clearly,
they
they
do
a
lot
of
other
things.
P
Just
like
our
police
officers
and
our
firefighters
do
every
single
day
and
every
approach
that
they
they
have
with
with
folks
that
are
having
crises
in
our
community,
the
the
the
goal,
the
intent.
The
outcomes
of
this
program
are
to
meet.
What
is
currently
unmet
that
the
community
Paramedic
program
is
not
able
to
meet
with
both
their
resources,
their
staff
and
their
mission
and
their
scope.
We
we
want
to
be
able
to
focus
on
those
behavioral
health
issues.
P
Those
unsheltered
issues
that
the
community
paramedic
is
is
not
able
to
to
meet
currently,
but,
very
importantly,
to
your
point
is
to
make
sure
that
this
always
is
is
a
conversation
and
a
partnership
that
is
complementary
with
Buncombe
County's
existing
not
just
their
their
Community
Paramedic
program
but,
as
you
pointed
out,
their
their
Health
and
Human
Services
Mission.
So
many
of
the
roles
that
they
have,
we,
we
have
a
seat.
P
Fortunately,
at
the
table,
multiple
departments
within
the
city
of
Asheville
of
Buncombe,
County's,
Behavioral,
Health,
Justice
Coalition
as
an
example,
and
so
that
that's
one
Platform
One
venue
that
we
talk
about
these
types
of
things
just
to
make
sure
we're
not
being
redundant.
We're
not
duplicating
efforts
that
we're
being
as
efficient
and
synergistic
as
possible
and
not
not
competing
or
duplicating
any
efforts
and
precious
resources.
N
I
appreciate
that
thank
you,
Chief
Burnett,
so
I'll
still
be
looking
for.
Even
if
there's
a
delay
I
know
we're.
We
already
have
staff
looking
at
Capital,
Improvement
project
asks
and
operations
budget
we're
starting
to
get
ready
for
seeing
those
come
together
for
the
next
fiscal
year.
So
I
we'll
still
be
asking
those
questions
about
budget
impact.
D
Absolutely-
and
it
looks
like
that,
we
just
got
some
information
from
the
mayor
that
was
forward
to
it
forward
it
to
us
regarding
the
community
paramedics
program
that
has
the
Matrix
and
probably
some
of
the
information
that
you're
interested
in
this
rounding,
but
we'll
still
plan
to
come
back
in
November
to
provide
you
with
additional
information
sounds
good.
Thank
you.
Absolutely.
D
Public
Safety
meetings.
Absolutely
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
just
to
update
you
on
what
is
happening
with
each
and
every
one
of
our
Council
committees.
We
are
trying
to
you,
know
kind
of
telegraph,
foreshadow
things
that
you
all
will
be
discussing
related
to.
You
know
some
are
calling
it
a
work
plan.
Others
committees
are,
are
framing
it
as
just
agenda
topics,
so
both
the
committee
as
well
as
the
public,
will
have
an
idea
of
items
that
will
be
discussed
by
this
committee
and
so
essentially
in
October.
D
We
will
have
you
heard
the
chief
talk
about
the
Epic
recruitment
effort
of
trying
to
recruit
additional
police
officers.
We
think
we
may
have
some
data
that
we
can
share
with
you.
We
can
also
share
with
you
some
of
the
postings
that
we
have
on
Facebook
and
and
through
social
media
Outlets,
there's
interest
in
our
Asheville
Police
Department's
Integrity
unit.
We
want
to
provide
you
with
an
update
on
that
and
there's
one
item
that
was
inadvertently
omitted
and
that
is
the
continuity
of
operations.
Plan
update.
D
We
gave
you
all
a
kind
of
a
a
brief
overview
in
I.
Believe
August
of
the
continuity
of
operations-
and
this
is
essentially
a
part
of
our
kind
of
climate
resiliency
and
just
resiliency
in
general,
related
to
some
type
of
emergency
that
might
occur
in
our
community
Grant
review
and
approvals
is
something
that
we
have
probably
monthly
whenever
we
have
our
committee
meetings,
so
I
repeated
that
with
throughout
the
the
rest
of
the
of
the
upcoming
year.
D
So
in
November,
as
we
said,
we
have
the
community
responder
team,
update
the
community,
paramedic
team,
update
and
then
potentially
Grant
review
and
approvals.
December,
we're
not
sure
if
we're
going
to
have
a
meeting,
it's
really
close
to
the
holidays
for
Christmas.
So
we'll
provide
you
with
additional
information,
probably
in
either
October
of
November,
with
a
slotted
agenda
for
December
agenda
item
for
December
and
then
in
January.
We
wanted
to
come
back
with
violence,
Interruption
initiatives
to
talk
about.
D
You
know
kind
of
results
of
what
you
were
presented
by
Chief
Zach,
as
well
as
the
county
initiatives
related
to
violence,
Interruption,
and
that
will
happen
in
January.
Those
are
the
items
that
we
have
slated
for
the
committee's
review
and
information
sharing
and
I.
Don't
know
if
you
all
feel
that
we
have
covered
things
that
you
are
interested
in
or
items
that
you
have
asked
us
to
provide
you
with
to
come
to
this
committee.
D
So
at
this
time,
I'll
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
you
vice
mayor
to
see,
if
there's
any
additional
items,
you
would
want
us
to
include
for
discussion
if.
N
Kim
so
I
think
when
we,
when
we
talk
about
violence,
interrupter,
programming
and
I,
appreciate
that
that's
on
the
January
agenda,
one
of
the
things
that
we
heard
in
June
was
specifically
to
address
violence
among
Our
Youth
and
what
youth
mentorship
programming
can
look
like.
So
if
we
could
just
go
ahead
and
explicitly
put
in
January
it's
violence,
Interruption
and
youth
initiatives,
I
think
that
our
community
needs
to
see
some
meaningful
action
on
that.
Additionally,
we
heard
about
climate
Justice
updates.
N
I.
Imagine
we'll
need
to
hear
something
about
that
as
we
get
into
budget
season
and
how
we're
impacting
neighborhood
resiliency
as
a
strategic
priority.
I've
already
mentioned
this
today,
but
Capital
Improvement
project
budgets,
an
update
on
9-1-1
I'm,
not
sure
where
how
that
fits
with
what
we've
the
action
we've
taken
around
our
911
initiatives,
but
the
biggest
one.
N
For
me,
that's
missing
right
now
is
a
six
month
budget
update
so
sort
of
what
we've
budgeted
to
do
and
if
our
budget
is
Meeting
those
needs,
but
also
do
we
have
deficits
surpluses,
some
sort
of
even
just
general
basic
Department
analysis
of
whether
or
not
we're
meeting
our
goals.
N
D
And
Miss
running,
we
are
scheduled
to
provide
full
Council
a
quarterly
updates
around
the
budget,
including
an
assessment
of
the
capital
Improvement
program
budget,
as
well
as
our
operating
budget
and
I'm,
hoping
that
that
would
suffice
and
not
have
to
come
through
a
specific
committee.
Unless
there
was
additional
information
that
you
you
wanted
specific
to
Public
Safety.
N
There
is,
and
part
of
it
is
because
we
saw
last
year
that
there
was
a
Capital
Improvements
Surplus
and
that
it
was
allocated
at
the
very
last
minute.
So
it
would
help
me
to
know.
Are
we
in
the
same
position
again?
If
so,
does
the
full
Council
need
to
hear
about
where
our
Public
Safety
budget
is
I?
Imagine
so,
but
if
we
were
able
to
get
into
the
weeds
a
little
bit
more
here,
that
would
be
the
purpose
of
this
Committee.
In
my
opinion,.
D
Okay,
I'll
have
to
simmer
on
that
one
and
and
think
of
how
we
provide
that
information.
That's
Public
Safety,
specifically.
B
You
and
we'll
move
on
to
public
comment
for
the
people
who
are
left
in
the
speaker
queue
to
speak
last.
L
Hi
Grant
Miller
long
time,
Asheville
resident
the
NC
Department
of
Health
and
Human
Services
Excel
file,
I
sent
the
Buncombe
County
Commissioners
and
now
to
the
PSC
this
morning
is
not
data
to
ignore
the
functional
deaths
to
emergency
room
overdose
treatment
ratio
appears
to
be
about
two
to
six,
so
six
emergency
room
treatments.
L
There
are
two
deaths
out
in
the
field
out
here
in
Asheville.
Mostly
the
data
is
just
that
says
this
is
about
bunkum,
it's
obviously
going
to
relate
to
actual
criminality
and
Fentanyl
use.
There
needs
to
be
a
public
centering
with
COA
leadership.
As
to
these
deaths
in
terms
of
demographics,
most
likely
it
will
become
clear
that
a
lot
of
people
under
30
are
dying.
L
This
is
these
are
these
are
criminally
related
deaths
and
then
legal
terms
at
least
considered
wrongful
deaths
and
those
lives
and
the
surviving
family
members
deserve
to
see
that
data
as
part
of
what
COA
Public
Safety
means.
So
the
data
about
violence
and
criminality,
if
you're
leaving
out
these
functional
deaths,
you're
lowering
the
deaths
in
a
major
way,
there's
all
kinds
of
other
destruction
that
is
being
generated
by
the
profiteering
from
pencil
and
Asheville.
I
agree.
I
agree.
These
are
public
health
issues
too.
Death
is
a
health
issue.
L
L
I
asked
for
20
years
of
actual
crime
data,
it's
good
to
see
10
years
being
used
now,
but
people
will
really
get
oriented
to
the
public
safety
picture
in
Asheville.
If
you
were
a
long
time
like
I
have
between
20
2002
and
2022,
the
the
crime
situation
is
completely
different
and
10
years.
China
shows
some
change,
but
it
really
going
back
to
2002
is
what's
needed
and
Kevin
doesn't
seem
to
be
concerned
about
those
calls
for
removal.
L
I
wanted
to
say
that
Shanique
on
on
the
23rd
during
Council,
he
started
to
talk
about
the
federal
asset
forfeiture.
Seizure
policy
and
people
think
that
it
is
that
the
seizures
happen
before
arrests
or
convictions
and
the
mayor
kind
of
intervened
with
you.
There's
a
that.
We've
got
a
council
code
of
conduct
and
that's
and
there's
a
part
of
that
that
talks
about
knowing
the
law.
But
it
was
kind
of
contemptuous
because
the
Mayors
seem
to
have
briefed
you
on
what
was
really
going
on
with
Federal
us
at
former
corporate
procedures
and.
Q
Okay,
my
name
is
Honor
Moore
I'm,
a
North
Asheville
resident
I
grew
up
in
Asheville,
probably
have
lived
here
collectively
between
childhood
and
adulthood,
and
motherhood
for
34
years.
Q
I
want
to
first
off,
say
I'm
grateful
to
our
public
servants
for
the
amount
of
time
they
spend
and
for
house.
So
little
they're
paid
to
go
to
numerous
hours
worth
of
meetings.
So
I
just
want
to
tell
you
guys.
I
know
many
of
you,
my
daughter,
just
graduated
Asheville
high
school
and
to
Grant's
point
which
I
really
appreciated
the
Fentanyl.
It's
really
scary
to
parents
and
it's
really
real
and
there's
a
student
that
was
recently
lost.
Q
It's
just
horrific
from
the
standpoint
of
being
a
mother,
because
kids
are
at
ages
where
they
just
make
the
stupidest
most
impulsive
decisions,
and
they
have
no
idea
when
they
make
that
decision
that
they
might
take
their
life
and
I
feel
like
as
a
community.
Again
I
really
appreciate
it.
Grant's
words:
why
don't
we
have
a
campaign
in
our
community
that
really
is
vocal
and
educates
it's
so
scary.
Q
So
the
other
thing
I
want
to
say
that's
really
unpopular
to
say,
but
a
lot
of
people
are
seeing
a
huge
difference
in
our
city
recently
like
really
recently
in
transient
population,
and
we
don't
have
measurable
tools,
but
we
see
it
with
our
eyes
and
as
I've
been
getting
around
town
and
talking
to
Merchants,
like
one
business
had
thirty
thousand
dollars
worth
of
stuff
stolen
off
of
Charlotte
Street
we're
seeing
more
panhandlers
going
all
the
way
North
on
Merriman
begging
in
every
parking
lot
in
the
city,
people
are
afraid
to
actually
now
wait
at
certain
bus
stops,
such
as
the
one
by
Trader
Joe's.
Q
We've
got
encampments
now
all
over
the
city
and
as
a
former
teacher
I
can
tell
you,
children
in
the
classroom
need
boundaries.
They
need
expectations
as
a
person.
Who's
been
a
member
of
a
recovery.
Community
had
Addiction
in
my
own
family
of
origin.
Anybody
in
the
recovery
Community
will
tell
you
people,
you
can't
enable
you
kind
of
got
to
come
up
with
the
system
here
for
our
city.
Q
I
unequivocally
support
the
Asheville
Police
Department,
the
fire
department,
all
of
the
staff.
Actually
y'all
are
great
people,
but
we
have
to
figure
something
out.
A
lot
of
people
are
saying
the
DA's
office
is
too
soft.
Now
the
police
need
to
feel
some
Community
Support,
so
shout
out
to
Chief
Zach
shout
out
to
the
police
department
and
we
can
simultaneously
support
the
police
department
care
for
the
homeless,
set
boundaries
in
our
city,
so
that
we
can
all
successfully
live
here,
but
we
are
not
as
Citizens.