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From YouTube: Environment & Safety Committee – January 24, 2023
Description
Regular meeting of the Asheville City Council Environment & Safety Committee.
Access the agenda and other meeting materials at the City of Asheville website: https://www.ashevillenc.gov/government/city-council-committees/environment-and-safety-committee/
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B
Great
all
right,
let's
get
started,
welcome
everybody
out
there
in
the
inner
web
world
and
folks
on
our
call.
My
name
is
Maggie
Olman
and
I.
Am
your
new
city
council
person
and
I
also
get
the
privilege
of
serving
you
all
as
the
chair
of
this
new
environment
and
public
and
Safety
Committee
glad
that
you're
here
on
our
January
24th
2023
meeting
all
of
us
on
city,
council
and
staff
are
participating
virtually
and
to
help
our
audience
follow
along
I'll
State
each
section
of
the
agenda
along
allowed.
B
B
B
So
after
those
remarks,
I'll
kind
of
get
us
started
with
a
roll
call
introduce
ourselves
if
folks
want
to
come
off,
mute
and
just
give
a
hey.
That
would
be
fantastic,
so
I'll
call
your
name
and
then
just
go
ahead
and
say:
hey
so
welcome.
Vice
mayor
Sandra,
Kilgore
hello,
our
other
council
person,
Shanika
Smith,
isn't
joining
us
today.
She
can't
make
it
but
she's
one
of
our
teammates
in
this
group
and
then
how
about
city
manager,
Deborah,
Campbell,
good.
E
B
And
then
division
fire
s
here,
also,
oh
there
you
are
good
morning
also
our
sustainability,
direct
director,
Bridget
herrings,
joined
us
good
morning.
Everyone
culture
here
and
then
James
I,
don't
know
that
we've
met
before,
but
James
toberlin
from
the
wnc
wildlife
or
maybe
maybe
we
have
one
to
see
your
face,
but
glad
you're
here
also.
B
Background
I
want
to
be
there
well
that
gets
us
kicked
off
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
jump
in.
We
have
a
lot
to
cover
today,
which
is
very
exciting,
a
lot
of
really
cool
progress
of
things
moving
forward
and,
as
has
been
the
practice
of
the
Public
Safety
Committee.
We
start
with
public
comment.
We'll
do
that
today
and
see
how
that
method
goes
going
forward.
So
staff
can
you
help
guide
us
through?
If
there's
any
public
comment
to
start
us
off
today,
no.
B
Today's
agenda
does
include
public
comment
both
in
the
beginning
and
the
end
again,
we'll
see
if
that's
a
method
we
stick
with
in
the
future.
So
if
you're
listening
and
have
something
to
share
today,
there
is
that
opportunity
at
the
end
to
comment.
B
So
the
first
item
is
the
approval
of
the
September
27
minutes.
I
did
have
a
process
question
given
that
I
wasn't
a
member
of
the
committee
at
that
time,
part
of
me
is
like
I'm,
not
sure
if
I
should
approve
those
minutes.
Is
that
tell
me
tell
me
what
the
the
process
approach
is
for
that.
D
Thank
you
Miss
chair.
That
is
an
excellent
question
and
the
answer
is
yes.
Council,
as
well
as
it
subcommittees,
are
considered
ongoing
legal
entities,
which
means,
even
though
the
membership
may
change
the
entity
of
the
Committees
itself,
meaning
that
those
on
the
committee
now,
even
if
they
are
not
part
of
the
committee
when
the
minutes
were
established,
they're
still
not
only
able
but
actually
required
by
law,
to
vote.
As
the
current
city
members.
B
Great,
so
is
there
and
then
also
just
for
the
folks
listening
along
we
had
mentioned
earlier
since
Sandra
and
myself
are
the
council
Representatives
today
and
Shanika
wasn't
able
to
join
us
that
we
still
are
taking
votes
and
and
that
we
still
are
taking
votes
and
then,
depending
on
what
those
votes
turn
out,
there's
different
paths
that
they
go
from
there.
So
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
from
the
27th
of
September?
Oh.
D
They'll,
just
do
not
have
to
do
that
for
the
minutes,
because
that's
a
procedural
vote,
but
you
will
do
that
on
future
votes.
If
you
choose.
B
B
Great
Sandra
Vice
Mayors,
Kilgore,
aye,
council,
member
on
and
I
there
you
go
okay,
cool
there
we
go
so
the
next
step
is
I'm
very
excited
about
this
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
purpose
of
this
committee.
B
What
I
love
that
staff
has
been
doing
with
our
committees
is
really
helping
us
kind
of
set
out
Charters
goals
kind
of
some
Direction
so
that
we
can
have
some
consistent
thread,
helping
us-
and
you
all
been
doing
that
really
nicely
in
the
past,
with
other
committees
and
I'm
excited
for
us
to
start
that
today.
B
A
Thank
you
very
much,
chairperson
Allman,
and
congratulations
on
your
chairmanship.
So
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
take
a
little
bit
of
time.
Just
to
give
you
a
very
quick
and
brief
overview
of
this
reconstituted
committee
and
again,
I
am
Deborah
Campbell
and
I
serve
as
your
city
manager.
Next
slide.
Please,
and
so
you
know
our
history
with
presentations.
Is
we
like
to
begin
with
the
end
in
mind
and
hit
on
some
of
the
key
takeaways?
As
we
noted
the
environment
and
Safety
Committee
is
a
newly
formed
committee.
A
That
was
that
replaces
the
former
Public
Safety
Committee
and
the
scope
of
this
committee
has
been
expanded
not
only
to
include
items
related
to
Public
Safety,
but
also
public
health
and
climate
resilience
related
topics,
which
means
that
the
agenda
that
you
see
before
you
shows
the
diversity
of
the
kinds
of
topics
that
will
be
discussed
in
this
committee
and
I'll
get
to
those
later
in
the
presentation.
A
What's
on
your
agenda
for
the
next
couple
of
months
next
slide,
and
so
again,
the
membership
of
the
environment
and
Safety
Committee
will
be
your
chair,
Miss
Allman,
the
vice
mayor,
Senator,
Kilgore
and
council
member
Shanika
Smith
staff.
Support
in
terms
of
a
liaison
for
the
committee
will
be
myself
as
the
major
liaison
and
then
there
will
be
other
staff
support
by
Department
directors,
Chief
Scott
Burnett,
with
the
Fire
Department
chief
David
Zack,
with
the
Asheville
Police
Department
Bridget
Herring,
with
our
sustainability
Department
in
detail,
Royal
magirt
with
Park
and
Recreation
Department.
A
A
So
the
the
scope
I'm
not
going
to
read
through
all
of
this
but
essentially
Your
Role,
will
be
to
review
policy
updates
and
make
policy
recommendations
that
ensure
that
we
address
issues
related
to
the
environment,
to
Public,
Health,
to
building
a
maintenance,
resilience
related
to
climate
change
and
obviously
the
provision
of
Public
Safety
and
including
police
fire,
Emergency,
Management
Services
in
a
governmental
relations
and
cooperation
with
law
enforcement,
and
that
potentially
will
be
other
law
enforcement
entities
like
the
sheriff's
department,
are
other
organizations
within
our
community
and
our
region
next
slide.
A
Please,
and
so
this
is
a
better
way
to
really
explain
the
scope
of
the
topics
again,
that
will
be
coming
to
environment
and
safety
items
like
Green
Building
facility
upgrades
and
retrofits
water
use
and
sanitation,
food
system,
security,
Parks
and
Recreation
operations
and
planning
climate,
Justice,
emergency
preparedness
and
obviously
Public
Safety.
Again
the
scope
and
breadth
of-
and
these
are
just
examples.
A
Next
slide,
please,
and
so
to
date.
We
have
mapped
out
what
you
will
be
considering
for
both
February
and
March,
and
you
can
see
Municipal
climate
action
plan
and
possibly
an
update,
also
an
update
on
single-use
plastic
reduction
initiative
and
the
Justice
Resource
Action
Council
for
Community
safety
initiatives
update
and
that's
a
lot
around
a
violence,
Interruption
and
then
in
March,
we'll
be
doing
food
scraps
drop
off
the
Epic
recruitment
update
and
that's
a
recruitment
effort
for
the
Asheville
Police
Department.
A
A
And
to
look
at
kind
of
the
the
Strategic
plan,
priorities
and
alignment
for
this
fiscal
year,
the
primary
priority
alignment
is
reimagining,
Public,
Safety
in
neighborhood
resilience
and
then
other
strategic
priority
alignment
would
be
improve
and
expand
core
services
next
slide,
and
so
those
are
the
the
key
takeaways.
A
We
deeply
deeply
appreciate
your
service,
your
interests
and
again
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
very,
very
busy
committee
and
there
are
lots
of
topics
that
you
will
be
reviewing
and
making
recommendations
and
considering
for
public
policy
that
will
be
forwarded
to
council
for
final
action.
So
with
that
I
will
see
if
there
are
any
questions
about
any
of
the
items
that
I've
identified
or
any
other
discussion
around
the
the
role
and
and
scope
of
your
work.
B
I,
don't
have
any
questions
just
thanks.
I
know.
A
lot
of
the
structure
of
this
was
thought
through
from
the
council
before
I
joined,
so
vice
mayor
Kilgore,
like
great
vision,
I
think,
emerging
environment
and
Public
Safety
is
really
Wise
from
the
water
shortage
we
saw
or
the
water
outage
that
we
just
experienced.
That's
a
perfect
example
of
how
Public
Safety
is
about
clean
drinking
water.
It's
about
responding
to
floods,
it's
also
about
policing
and
keeping
our
community
protected,
so
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
wisdom
in
that.
B
I
also
want
to
just
give
y'all
alkalades
that
as
someone
who
spent
a
lot
who
my
career
is
in
the
environmental
space,
this
is
a
really
big
moment
that
we
have
brought
concerns
around
the
environment
into
the
level
of
our
discernment
around
at
a
council
committee.
So
I'm
really
hopeful
and
excited
and
ready
to
do
all
this
good
work
together.
B
B
I
was
just
mentioning
you
know,
emergency
preparedness
and
where
we're
looking
to
keep
our
community
safe.
The
next
item
is
to
address
number
four
on
the
agenda
emergency
preparedness
plan.
We
have
Chief
brunette
to
talk
through
us
talk
through
with
us,
the
emergency
operation
plan
and
continuity
of
operation
plan
and
for
the
public.
Those
are
a
lot
of
words,
but
essentially
I'm
sure
he'll
share.
This
is
when
something
goes
on.
B
How
are
we
gonna
click
in
the
gear
right
away,
and
it's
really
fantastic
timing
that
y'all
have
already
had
this
in
the
works,
so
we
can
really
tune
all
this
up
to
be
even
better
as
we
go
forward.
So
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you:
Chief
we're
actually
to
division
Chief.
Whoever
is
going
to
kick
us
off.
G
Good
morning,
everyone,
chief
of
Emergency
Management
for
the
Asheville
Fire
Department
good
morning
to
you
vice
mayor
Kilgore
and
chairperson
and
council
member
erlman
I,
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
come
and
speak
today.
I
have
a
really
important
project
that
we're
beginning
and
I
look
forward
to
telling
you
more
about
it
as
we
move
forward.
G
We
embarked
on
this
project
in
July
and
since
then
kind
of
where
we
are
and
what
what's
going
on
since
then
we're
going
to
walk
through
that
very
specifically,
but
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
proposals
and
how
competitive
this
process
was,
and
also
the
evaluation
team
and
how
how
diverse
they
were,
but
also
how
much
work
went
into
putting
this
together
and
looking
through
these
proposals
and
then
obviously
the
selection
process
and
who
was
selected
as
that
as
that's
going
to
be
helping
us
and
joining
our
team
to
to
guide
us
through
those
next
steps
and
then
we're
going
to
talk
on
next
steps:
project
kickoff,
what
the
planning
process
looks
like
and
then
the
continuous
stakeholder
in
community
engagement
that's
about
to
take
place
as
we
move
forward.
G
So
next
slide,
please!
So
as
a
project
overview,
the
Emergency
Operations
plan
and
the
continuity
of
operations
plan
do
parallel.
However,
they
are
definitely
specific
and
focus
on
different
components
of
when
something
happens.
The
Emergency
Operations
plan
gives
us
that
framework.
It
also
allows
us
to
prepare
respond
to
and
recover
from
a
disaster
disaster
or
incident
or
event.
This
allows
us
to
again
create
that
Rhythm
create
that
that
process
and
what
that
response
looks
like
and
brings
in
that
systematic
management
of
expectations
both
from
our
community
and
from
staffs
that
will
be
responding.
G
The
coupe
plan
identifies
how
the
city
will
continue
to
provide
those
core
services
and
essential
functions
during
an
emergency.
It's
very
important
that
these
both
work
together
and
are
complement
each
other
and
many
times
as
we're,
seeing
as
the
changes
that
we're
experiencing
not
only
in
the
environment
but
other
the
disasters
that
we're
facing
the
events
that
we're
facing
as
a
community.
Those
two
need
to
be
in
parallel
and
we
need
to
be
prepared
to
to
engage
those.
G
The
the
third
component
of
this
is
the
community
engagement,
we're
going
to
leverage
the
existing
relationships
and
groups
that
we
have
within
our
community,
we're
going
to
make
sure
and
ensure
that
we're
using
an
equity
lens
to
include
everyone,
those
most
most
marginalized,
and
also,
at
the
same
time,
promoting
that
preparedness,
the
personal
preparedness
and
resilience
through
our
neighborhoods
and
and
ultimately
down
to
the
individual
next
slide.
Please.
G
So
when
we
had
started
on
this
process
again,
it
began
in
July.
We
had
to,
we
wrote
the
scope
of
work
and
there
was
a
team
of
behind
the
scenes
that
wrote
the
scope
of
work
kind
of
what
we
wanted
where
we
had
been
and
that
really
reflected
what
we're
asking
someone
to
help
us
with
and
then
we
we
began
to
put
together
a
team.
G
Once
the
scope
of
work
was
completed,
we
began
to
put
together
a
team
that
would
ultimately
review
every
one
of
these
proposals
and
working
with
our
folks
in
finance
and
purchasing
get
this
out
cast
our
net
as
broad
as
we
could
to
get
the
most
involvement
and
the
most
interaction
in
this
space
amongst
all
the
the
the
companies
and
folks
that
operate
there.
G
Once
we
did
this,
we
realized
very
early
on
that.
This
was
going
to
be
quite
the
task
and
then,
in
this
evaluation
we
were,
we
saw-
and
we
included
in
folks
from
fire
Information
Technology,
Equity
inclusion,
our
finance
and
Management
Service,
and
then
also
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
not
only
our
horizontal
stakeholders,
as
far
as
internal
to
the
city
were
included,
but
also
kind
of
that
vertical
relationship
that
we
have
with
the
county.
G
So
we
included
our
County's
Emergency,
Management
division
manager
and
the
Buncombe
County
security
and
Readiness
officer-
and
this
was
the
the
evaluation
team
I
mean
this.
There
was
a
lot
of
work
put
in
by
these
individuals
next
slide.
Please,
we
looked
at
13
different
proposals
with
actually
15
different
proposals
were
submitted.
G
We
found
that
13
of
them
to
be
responsive
after
the
initial
review
and
all
were
within
budget.
The
evaluation
was
a
pretty
intense
evaluation.
We
knew
that
that
we
were
looking
for
not
only
a
teammate
a
partner,
but
we
were
going
to
look
for
someone
to
really
dig
deep
and
we
wanted
that
external
View
and
of
such
an
internal
process,
and
we
wanted
to
really
make
ourselves
really
put
it
all
out
there.
So
the
evaluation
categories
consisted
of
approach,
access
and
availability
qualifications
demonstrated
by
the
vendor
also
demonstrated
experience
community
and
stakeholder
engagement.
G
What
this
planning
process
looked
like
as
well
as
the
deliverables
that
we
were
going
to
expect
at
the
end,
we
broke
that
down
further
into
37
different,
managed
and
measured
components
at
the
end
of
this
evaluation.
Each
evaluation
consisted
of
about
25
to
45
pages,
all
of
the
folks
on
the
evaluation
team,
read
every
word
and
then
broke
those
down
and
ultimately
scored
those.
At
the
end,
we
we
interviewed
the
top
three
candidates
and
Percy's
Consulting
was
unanimously
selected
by
the
evaluation
team.
G
These
two
plans,
as
well
as
some
exercises
a
plan,
is,
is
really
not
worth
the
paper
it's
written
on
unless
we
exercise
that
and
integrate
that
into
our
operations
daily
and
win
disaster
or
incident
happens,
so
you've
got
the
three.
The
two
plans
and
you've
got
the
exercises
and
then
continuing
through
this
process
over
the
next
eight
months,
which
was
one
of
the
largest
categories
in
the
assessment,
was
that
community
community
and
stakeholder
engagement.
G
What
that
looks
like
listening,
we've
already
had
some
preliminary
meetings
with
some
of
our
community
connectors
and
talking
about
you
know,
what's
worked
what
what
tools
do
we
already
have,
so
that
that
engagement
is
going
to
be
very
important,
and
we
will
continue
that
throughout
this
entire
process,
as
well
as
coming
back
before
this
committee
to
do
check-ins
and
talk
about
milestones
and
and
talk
about
those
next
steps,
as
we
begin
to
drill
down
on
this
next
slide,
please
so
again,
the
key
takeaways.
G
Obviously,
the
two
plans
that
we're
working
through
the
you
know
the
Emergency
Operations
plan
and
the
continuity
of
operations
plan.
What
that
process
looked
like
and
a
really
a
big.
Thank
you
to
all
those
folks
who
were
involved
in
this
from
the
very
beginning.
This
is
truly
a
team
effort
and
I
look
forward
to
working
through
this
project
and
I'm
very
excited
about
the
results
that
this
is
going
to
the
improvements
in
that
that
continuous
Improvement,
that
this
is
going
to
help
us
bring
about.
A
G
Is
we're
requesting
that
the
environment
and
Safety
Committee
move
this
item
forward
to
the
to
the
larger
Council
for
for
consideration
and
with
that
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
B
If
you
want
me
to
get
started
or
if
you
have
any
great
okay,
first
of
all
again,
just
a
big
thanks,
I'm,
so
grateful
and
like
proud.
Our
organization
already
has
this
in
the
works.
B
It's
so
unfortunate
that
we
had
a
climate
related
weather
emergency
recently,
where
we
had
to
use
our
Emergency
Management,
planning
and
I
think
that
we
did
a
lot
of
really
good
things
right
with
that
water
outage,
and
we
have
always
the
potential
to
learn
more
and
I
think
the
fact
that
we
already
have
resources
dedicated
to
work
on
these
plans
this
year
just
feel
serendipitous
and
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
just
really
be
the
best
we
can
so
a
couple
questions
I
have
come
from
my
climate
lens,
probably
unsurprising.
B
We
know
it's
very
much
a
best
practice
for
cities
who
are
internalizing
their
concerns
about
climate
change,
to
be
integrating
that
with
Emergency
Management.
It's
very
much
it's
something
we
see
more
and
more
of
so.
The
two
questions
I
have
one
is
I,
was
kind
of
surprised
to
see
that
on
the
evaluation
team,
our
sustainability
staff,
weren't
involved
and
just
curious,
if
we
thought
of
that
or
how
they
are
tagging
into
this,
because
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
resource
there
having
a
different
lens.
B
The
second
question
I
have
is
that
I'm
very
familiar
with
plans
that
cities
often
had
called
climate
adaptation
plans
and
they're
different,
pretty
much
so
than
an
emergency
management
plan.
However,
they're
often
they
nest
well,
and
what
we
see
in
climate
adaptation
plans
is
that
we
really
use
excellent
climate
data
to
hyper
Focus.
What
our
vulnerabilities
are
to
the
changing
climate
now
we're
Super
Lucky
in
Asheville
that
we
might
not
even
need
a
super
fancy
plan,
because
we
have
such
awesome
data
scientists
around
here
that
have
been
helping
us
learn
over
time.
B
B
How
does
the
knowledge
of
what
we're
expecting
with
climate
emergencies,
as
well
as
all
the
other
emergencies
play
into
what
we
do
with
the
plan
like,
for
example,
in
adaptation
plans
a
lot
of
times?
There
would
be
some
narrowing
on
major
likely
scenarios
so
that,
instead
of
planning
for
the
50
bajillion
things
that
could
go
wrong,
we
get
really
clear
on
the
most
likely
ones
and
I'm,
not
sure
how
much
of
that
is
just
a
different
planning
process,
or
that
adds
into
something
like
this.
B
So
those
are
kind
of
the
two
questions
of
where
our
sustainability
staff,
who
have
a
lot
of
knowledge,
have
been
and
can
play
in
this
and
then
how
we're
using
what
we
know
about
climate
emergencies,
to
make
sure
that
we're
really
focusing
some
time
on
that.
Hopefully,
in
this
process
that
all
makes
sense.
G
Yes,
it
and
I'll
begin
with
the
with
the
selection
process.
So
will
we
put
this
together?
We
currently
we
have
an
what's
called
an
all
hazards,
planning
committee
within
the
city
and
that's
a
group
of
the
representation
from
the
different
department
that
comes
together
and
we
talk
about
our
process.
We
talk
about
our
hazards.
We
talk
about
the
things
that
we're
doing
as
an
emergency
response.
G
We
began
this
in
2017
and
it's
kind
of
been
we've
talked
about
some
of
the
major
impacts
that
we've
had
through
some
of
the
climate,
the
changes
and
the
and
the
events
and
how
they're
getting
stronger
and
bigger
and
larger
and
and
more
time
consuming.
So
that
group
came
together.
G
We
began
this
process
and
we
had
it
began
in
2019,
really
we
had
a
class
and
we
did
an
exercise
and
that
exercise
informed
of
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
do
today
and-
and
there
was
representation
on
that
from
climate
and
sustainability.
We
had,
it
was
a
great
informative
and
we
took
that
after
action
review
and
that
fit
into
a
lot
of
the
scope
of
work
it
fed
into
the
Emergency
Operations
Center.
G
That
we
will
eventually
open
here
in
not
too
distant
future
in
our
Public
Safety
station,
as
well
as
the
the
need
for
this,
and
that,
after
reaction
review
said,
we
need
a
plan
that
that
is
where
we
can
create
that
Rhythm,
that
we
do
every
time
that
measures
complexity
and
also
takes
into
consideration
these.
These
ever-changing
environmental
conditions
that
we're
experiencing.
So
when
we
put
together
the
scope
of
work,
really
we
had.
G
We
wanted
a
smaller
group
to
do
the
evaluation
because
it
was
such
a
heavy
lift
and
we
we
knew
that.
We
had
already
been
in
conversation
about
all
of
the
different
plans,
such
as
the
you
know:
food
insecurity,
the
climate
Justice
initiatives,
as
well
as
the
the
climate
resiliency
assessment
that
we
were.
We
were
we
partnered
with
to
produce
that
document
and
which
informs
a
lot
of
our
operations
as
it
did
not
only
during
the
water
but
but
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
G
We
have
a
lot
of
ongoing
things
that
point
to
that
document,
that
that
really
support
that,
but
we
we
had
the
committee.
We
wanted
to
keep
it
kind
of
small
because
it
was
going
to
be
such
a
heavy
lift
and
that
was
no
exclude.
We
didn't
mean
to
exclude.
We
were
just
trying
to
keep
that
small,
but
the
the
intention
moving
forward
is
to.
They
are
a
part
of
this
committee
and
this
committee.
The
work
that's
already
been
happening.
G
These
initiatives
will
definitely
inform
our
plans,
our
planning
process
moving
forward
and
we
look
forward
to
using
them
as
a
resource
to
provide
and
kind
of
into
your
next
part
of
your
question
about
how
how
we
will
do
that.
G
This
is
going
to
really
anchor
everyone
and
manage
those
expectations
and
taking
into
consideration
all
of
the
other
plans
of
work
that
we're
doing
and
trying
to
put
it
in
kind
of
one
spot
and
put
that
on
a
rhythm
where
we're
not
just
talking
about
it,
but
we're
exercising
it,
we're
updating
it
and
it
becomes
integrated
into
our
our
work
so
kind
of
to
your
point:
the.
How
has
your
vulnerability
assessment
that
we
will
be?
We
will
conduct
as
a
part
of
this
planning
process,
we'll
do
just
that.
G
We
look
to
really
performing
that
assessment
and
that
will
point
us
in
the
direction
that
we
need
to
go
with
some
of
those
annexes
and
maybe
over
time,
those
change
and-
and
we
have
this
process,
we
have
this
plan,
that's
able
to
be
updated
and
pivot
and
include
as
those
things
change,
and
so
the
last
part
of
your
question
was:
how
do
we?
How
do
we
maintain
that
awareness
a
lot
of
what
we're
doing
a
lot?
That's
going
to
inform
these
plans
is
going
to
be
based
around
a
common
operating
picture
and
situational
awareness.
G
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
communicating
that
situational
awareness
continuously
and
all
the
plan
informs
the
process
and
the
exercise
and
the
exercise
informs
our
response.
So
it's
a
continuous
Circle
and
in
the
middle
of
that
circle
is
where
the
situational
awareness
and
that
common
operating
picture
lie
and
that's
how
we
do
that.
We
use
technology.
G
We
use
our
most
valuable
resource,
our
people,
and
then
we
use
our
community
to
keep
that
and
maintain
that
situational
awareness
and
provide
that
common
operating
picture
so
that
you
know
what
we're
susceptible
to
and
our
community
knows
what
we're
susceptible
to
and
and
what
they
can
expect
in.
Our
response
does
that
answer
did
I
get
most
of
them.
B
That's
so
fantastic,
really
appreciate
it.
I
get
the
big
picture
of
this
all
hazards,
Planning
Group,
has
been
enacted
and
we've
had
sustainability
leadership
in
that
and
that
helped
kind
of
lift
this,
as
a
recommendation
and
I
can
understand,
Bridget
might
have
been
sitting
there
going
Patty.
B
Why
were
you
suggesting
that
that
was
so
much
work
to
be
on
the
eval,
so
I
get
the
balance
between
having
your
colleagues
involved
at
the
right
Junctions
and
that,
based
on
having
that
relationship
and
that
Insight
already
that
this
granular
level
didn't
seem
like
the
best
use
of
time
totally
understand
and
I
I
really
appreciate
how
thoughtful
everything
I'm
hearing
is
to
have
the
hazard
vulnerability
assessment
and
then
the
following
annexes
for
the
certain
ones
as
part
of
this
plan,
I
think
that'll
really
really
serve
us
well.
B
I
know
that
we
have
gotten
a
really
good
Rhythm
when
there
are
snow
storms
and
how
we're
closing
streets
and
I
know
that
we've
gotten
to
a
really
good
Rhythm
and
we've
seen
flooding
so
I
think
that
we
have
a
lot
that
we
already
are
doing.
That's
moving
in
the
right
direction
and
I
think
I'm,
just
really
thankful
and
hopeful
and
excited
to
see
this
work,
because
I
think
it'll
just
give
you
all
even
more
tools
and
and
time
to
fortify
and
prepare,
even
better,
so
I'm
thrilled
to
be
along
for
the
ride.
E
All
I'd
say
is
I'd
like
to
thank
everyone
for
all
the
hard
work
that
they've
done.
What
they've
been
interested
and
you
know
things
happen
for
a
reason
and
I
Look
At
You
Know
by
us
being
prepared.
Just
imagine
what
we'll
be
able
to
do.
You
know
moving
forward,
so
I'm
excited
about
that,
and
so,
if
there's
no
other
questions
I'd
like
to
take
this
time
to
make
a
motion
that
we
move
forward.
They
have
emergency
preparedness
plan
to
the
full
Council
for
a
vote.
B
Wait
I,
second,
that
and
let's
do
a
roll
call
vote.
Vice
mayor,
Kilgore,
councilwoman,
Ullman
I,
the
motion
is
approved.
Thank
you
thanks
for
being
here
appreciate
it
Vision,
Chief
and
chief.
B
It
great
work.
Okay,
another
exciting
topic
is
our
next
one
item.
Five
on
our
agenda
is
discussing
the
blue
Horizons
project
and
the
interlocal
agreement
that
we
have
with
Buncombe,
County
and
I
believe
our
sustainability
director
Bridget
is
gonna
open
that
up
for
us.
H
This
is
a
co-funded
initiative
where
the
city
and
the
county
equally
contribute
to
the
implementation
of
this
program
and
supporting
a
community-based
organization
to
do
this
work
in
community,
and
so
we've
done
an
interlocal
agreement
in
the
past
and
it's
time
to
do
it
again,
and-
and
this
is
why
it's
coming
to
council
today-
is
because
this
is
the
process
vehicle
that
we
use
to
work
together
as
one
entity,
so
interlocal
Agreements
are
under
council's
purview
and
so
we're
requesting
that
you
authorize
that
so
that
the
city
and
the
county
can
work
in
lockstep
together
to
really
select
one
vendor
and
make
sure
that
we're
speaking
cohesively
with
one
strategy
of
implementation.
H
So
we
go
to
the
next
slide.
I'll
share
a
little
background
about
how
we
got
here
so
councilwoman.
Allman
might
remember
that.
A
number
of
years
ago,
the
city,
the
county
and
Duke
Energy
formally
created
what
was
known
as
the
energy
Innovation
task
force,
and
it
had
two
primary
functions.
One
was
to
avoid
or
delay
the
construction
of
a
natural
gas
peaker
plant.
H
So
when
the
power
plant
down
at
Lake,
Julian
was
being
transitioned
from
a
coal-fired
power
plant
to
a
natural
gas,
Duke
Energy
put
out
an
expansion
plan
that
the
community
pushed
back
on,
and
so
we
decided
to
try
and
work
together
and
we're
successful
of
being
able
to
delay
the
need
for
that,
at
least
in
the
foreseeable
future.
For
what
Duke
Energy
has
been
filing
with
the
Utilities
Commission
and
then
the
second
one
was
to
transition
our
region
into
a
clean
energy
future.
H
So
to
do
that
second
kind
of
bigger
piece.
The
energy
Innovation
task
force
created,
what's
now
known
as
the
blue
Horizons
project,
which
was
the
idea
to
have
a
community-wide
campaign
that
provides
education,
resources
and
programming
for
members
of
our
community
to
be
able
to
make
this
transition
in
their
in
their
homes
and
in
their
businesses
and
in
2018.
We
also,
as
the
city
council,
adopted
100
renewable
energy
goal
that
established
a
goal
for
municipal
operations
for
2030,
but
then
a
larger
supports
the
County's
larger
community-wide
goal
for
Buncombe
County
by
2042..
H
So,
as
I
mentioned
previously,
we've
done
an
interlocal
agreement
to
select
one
vendor
to
implement
this
campaign.
We
did
this
in
2020
and
we
selected
the
greenbelts
alliance,
which
is
our
local
community-based
organization.
That's
a
non-profit,
that's
implemented
it
to
date.
This
also
created
a
transition.
H
So
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
taste
of
the
accomplishments
and
some
of
the
work
that
the
blue
Horizons
project
does
so
the
city
and
the
county
co-fund
a
program
underneath
this
umbrella
called
The,
Energy
Savers
Network
that
offers
weatherization
work
to
people
of
low
income.
H
So
it's
something
that
fits
for
everybody
in
case
they
don't
go
into
the
traditional
qualify
for
the
traditional
programs
that
we
might
see
through
our
weatherization
assistance
provider
or
others,
offering
unbiased
advice
to
individuals
that
are
looking
to
make
a
change
in
their
home
through
these
home
energy
chats.
H
So
just
to
recap,
we've
done
this
program
for
three
years.
You
can
go
to
the
next
slide
KD,
and
so
it's
best
practice
to
go
out
and
re-advertise
for
these
kinds
of
services
every
so
often
so
that's
where
we're
at
so.
The
timeline
that
we're
looking
at
is
to
go
to
City
Council,
to
authorize
this
interlocal
agreement.
Again,
that's
the
process
vehicle.
We
utilize
for
the
city
and
county
to
be
able
to
work
and
lockstep
together.
H
Once
we
have
that
approval,
we
would
go
and
issue
a
joint
RFP,
a
request
for
proposals,
so
we'll
work
with
the
county
to
develop
that
scope
of
work.
The
county
will
take
the
lead
on
publishing
that
we
will
work
together
to
select
the
responsive
bidder
and
negotiate
the
contract
and
then
that
contract
would
come
back
to
city
council
for
approval
and
then
the
work
would
begin
so
we're
trying
to
line
this
up
with
the
fiscal
year
as
well,
because
that's
what
our
current
contract
is
under
foreign.
H
Just
wrapping
back
up
where
we
started
again,
this
is
the
strategy
we
use
to
really
reach
the
community
and
to
make
this
work
be
in
community
and
led
by
community,
and
that
this
is
a
partnership
that
we've
done
with
Buncombe
County,
and
this
interlocal
agreement
is
really
that
process
that
we
utilize
to
be
able
to
speak
with
one
voice,
and
so
we
request
that
you
recommend
that
Council
authorize
this
interlocal
agreement,
so
we
can
move
forward
and
with
that
I'll
take
any
questions.
B
E
Go
for
it.
I
just
want
I
just
want
to
ask
you
thank
Bridget
for
sharing
this
great
information,
but
I
just
want
to
sort
of
get
an
idea.
Basically,
how
did
you
this
horse's
budget
for
the
projects
that
the
city
of
Republican
County
worked
on
together?
What
type
of
budget
were
they
working
with.
E
And
also
when
you
said
that
you
basically
had
about
five
graduates
from
Green
opportunity.
Basically,
what
did
that
look
like
I
was
just
hoping
to
get
an
idea.
H
Right
so
when
so,
the
greenbelts
alliance
was
the
lead
implementer
of
the
solarize
campaign,
and
through
that
process
there
was
like
a
stakeholder
group
that
came
together
and
green
opportunities
was
one
of
those
and
there
was
a
number
of
of
objectives
of
serving
and
that
program,
one
of
which
was
Workforce
Development
and
so
working
with
green
opportunities
to
kind
of
figure
out
what
that
looked
like,
and
so
we
worked
with
the
selected
vendor
that
was
doing
the
actual
installations,
green
opportunities
in
greenville's
Alliance,
to
kind
of
figure
out
what
program
we
could
offer
so
green
opportunities
provided
some
of
the
job
site,
training
like
through
OSHA
requirements
and
whatnot,
and
then
the
vendor
that
we
selected
had
them,
come
out
on
site
and
paid
them
to
be
part
of
the
crew
to
get
some
on-the-site
experience
with
you
know,
lifting
those
panels
Up
on
the
Roof.
H
You
know
what
can
they
do
to
install
them
without
having
the
like
electrical
licensing?
So
that's
how
that
partnership
came
to
be
and
kind
of
what
the
program
was.
E
So
so,
basically
I
love
the
program,
but
it
needs
to
be
expanded.
So
you
know
it's
a
lot
more
fun
and
all
the
reason
I
say
that
is
because
the
fact
like
green
opportunity
I
know
that,
basically,
that's
the
reason
I
was
concerned
about
what
the
how
they
were
actually
working
with
them,
because,
basically,
what
would
happen?
E
They
were
just
sort
of
doing
a
lot
of
the
grunt
work,
I,
guess
sort
of
as
opposed
to
the
learning
more
about
the
technical
part
of
it
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
that,
maybe
you
should
look
into
maybe
a
B
Tech
sort
of
providing
some
kind
of
training,
basically
for
these
people
in
great
opportunity
to
give
them
opportunity
to
move
forward.
You
know
in
those
absolutely.
H
Absolutely-
and
we
did
talk
to
a
B
Tech
about
that
opportunity.
The
solarized,
Campaign
concept
is
like
a
bulk
purchasing
limited
time,
and
so
in
our
move
into
100
renewable
energy
plan.
You
know
the
Consultants
looked
at
varying
campaigns
around
the
country
and
said
you
know
to
do
them
like
on
a
cyclical
basis
and
not
have
them
available
all
the
time,
but
maybe
have
them
available
like
once
every
three
years
right
that,
and
so
it
was
like
the
limited
time
opportunity.
H
We
took
advantage
of
that
and
now
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
maintain
something
that
is
more
longer
term,
which
is
in
the
neighbor
to
neighbor,
which
is
what
some
of
the
American
Rescue
plan
funding
went
for,
which
is
specific
to
low-income
homes.
To
make
that
available
and
trying
to
figure
out.
How
can
we
build
like
a
longer
term
Pipeline
with
Workforce
Development
as
well,
but
that
is
it's
small
It's,
A
Small.
E
Piece
yeah
and
the
reason
I
was
asking
about
that,
is
because
I
know
that
the
biggest
problem
of
dealing
with
the
Renewables
and
all
the
solar
and
all
this
type
of
thing,
especially
in
marginalized
communities.
It's
just
that
they're
not
under
catching
on.
You
see
what
I
mean
it's
not
really
connecting
and
if
we
could
more
or
less
sort
of
start
introducing
them
to
jobs
in
these
particular
areas
and
the
advancements
in
these
programs
which
they
would
actually
be
able
to
see
benefits.
E
You
know,
and
also
the
people
in
the
community
be
able
to
see
benefits
because
people
getting
jobs
in
areas.
That
is
where
we're
relief
we're
headed
to
now.
So
if
they
could,
I
would
like
to
see
that
program.
Grandchild
that
reach
out
to
give
more
people
in
the
modernized
communities
opportunities
to
grow
in
that
particular
area,
which
would
also
give
opportunity
for
us
to
start
taking
the
interest,
because
we
can't
see
it.
You
know
I
mean
I'm
just
saying
in
the
neighborhoods.
E
B
Thank
you.
Yeah
I
really
appreciate
that
Sandra
I
do
think
you
know
North
Carolina,
for
as
long
as
I
can
remember.
The
last
five
years
has
been
the
number
two
state
only
second
to
California
in
installing
new
solar
panels,
so
we're
installing
more
solar
than
every
other
state,
but
California
and
our
industry
is
growing
rapidly.
The
amount
of
businesses
that
are
leading
these
efforts,
the
amount
of
people
who
are
part
of
installation.
It
is
such
a
growth
market
area
that
having
access
to
on-ramps
into
that
industry
is
just
very
powerful
and
we
need.
B
We
need
that
access
I,
really
like
you're
thinking
there
on
where
we
can
use
this
interlocal
agreement
so
that,
as
we
in
the
county,
have
our
conversations
to
set
up
the
RFP
where
Workforce
plays
into
that
conversation
and
and
how
Workforce
Development
strategy
is
presented
by
the
contractors
is
something
that
I'd
love
to
see
called
out
as
well.
B
B
I
know
it's
been
kind
of
a
long
journey
for
us
and
I'm,
proud
of
our
journey
and
I'm
really
proud
that
as
we're
looking
to
how
we
pursue
sustainability
in
the
community,
we
are
not
doing
it
alone,
we're
doing
it
by
centering
community
and
taking
Community
leadership
and
supporting
that
through
this
type
of
proposal
right
through
through
having
Community,
Partners,
lead,
I,
think
that's
wise
and
that
the
birth
of
this
effort,
you
know
now
called
Blue.
B
Horizons-
is
really
from
the
policy
that
we
adopted
on
Council
for
100,
renewable
energy
and
I'm
curious
for
the
progress
update.
So
I
heard
some
outcomes.
You
know
some
outputs
of
600,
low-income
homes,
weatherized
1.4
megawatts
renewable,
which
is
huge
and
very
good,
but
I'm
struggling
to
connect
them
to
our
policy
goals.
So
can
we
have
that
information
of
like
what
percentage
are
we
towards
our
policy
goal?
How
does
this
play
into
it,
because,
ultimately,
these
resources
are
the
only
resources,
we're
spending
as
an
organization
towards
our
community
goal
and
I?
B
Just
don't
really
have
a
great
sense
of
the
the
resources
that
go
to
this
community
Department
I
don't
have
a
sense
of
our
performance
so
far
in
the
existing
contract.
As
someone
who
used
to
Crunch
those
numbers,
I
know
I'm,
saying
this
out
loud
and
going
that's
a
really
hard
analysis.
That's
not
an
easy
thing
to
just
whip
out.
So
I
get
that
but
I
wonder
in
what
we
set
up
in
this
interlocal
agreement
to
direct
the
RFP.
B
Can
we
incorporate
something
about
performance
towards
our
written
stated
policy
so
that
that's
part
of
how
we
evaluate
so
I?
Don't
know
what
that
would
look
like
I,
don't
want
to
be
too
far
in
the
dance
floor
with
this,
but
you
know
if
they're
proposing
five
different
programs,
which
of
them
have
a
bigger
impact
towards
our
policy
goal,
because
ultimately,
there's
a
million
things
we
could
do
in
the
community
to
support
a
more
sustainable
world
and
this
effort
is
in
direct
support.
B
H
Sure
absolutely
and
we
they
do
measurement
verification
on
the
weatherization
program.
So
we
have
an
annual
report
that
reports
out
the
estimate
of
Energy
savings
and
carbon
emissions
avoided
from
that.
So
that's
easy
to
to
provide
for
you.
The
there's
still
work,
we're
still
working
on
evolving,
that
with
some
of
the
other
software,
more
educational
and
Outreach
components,
because
that
gets
a
little
bit
harder
to
measure.
H
But
what
I
will
just
mention
is
just
a
challenge
with
the
goal
that
we
have
and
in
producing
that
kind
of
information
is
there's
not
a
baseline
And.
So
it's
hard
to
say
how
close
we
are
to
our
goal,
because
it's
100
whatever
we
are
in
2042
right
so
like
how
many
people
are
going
to
live
here.
What
what
is
our
you
know?
What
what's
our
energy
landscape
going
to
look
like,
so
we
can
definitely
provide
that
information
as
like
a
snapshot
in
time.
H
I
think
we
we
can
measure
it
on
the
annual
basis,
I
just
think
in
terms
of
saying
we're
50
of
the
way
there
it's
hard
to
do
that
when
your
numbers
always
changing
right.
So
we'll
always
have
to
look
back
in
time
to
say
how
much
energy
did
we
use
and
what
difference
are
we
making
right?
So
it's
going
to
be
looking
back
and
looking
forward
yeah.
B
I
think
I
think
notations
to
clarify
why
we
need
to
be
thoughtful
when
we
review
analysis
is
reasonable,
but
I
don't
think,
that's
a
reason
not
to
pursue
it
in
decision
making.
It
does
make
it
hard
for
me
to
like,
say:
let's
go
forward
with
this
local
interlocal
agreement
without
really
having
performance
measurement
data.
We
have
these
outcomes,
which
are
awesome
but
I,
don't
know.
I,
just
I
think
that's
a
really
essential
part
and
a
best
practice
that
we
see
in
other
communities
who
pursue
100,
renewable
energy
goals
and
I
think
I.
B
Think
we
don't
have
that
right
now
in
a
way
that
informs
decision
making
and
I.
Don't
think,
there's
a
need
to
radically
change
the
approach.
I
think
that
our
partnership
with
the
county
is
strong.
We
have
shared
vision
and
Leadership
towards
this.
We
have
shared
policy
towards
this.
I
think
that
working
with
Community
Partners
and
the
process
that
we're
being
asked
to
approve
is
the
Right
Way,
Forward
I
feel
like
as
a
policy
maker.
B
There,
like
I,
know
that,
with
our
internal
goal
for
80
by
2050
that
the
policy
says
we're
supposed
to
have
annual
reports
on
our
progress
towards
that,
are
we
getting
one
of
those
and
one
of
like?
When
are
we
gonna?
When
does
that?
Come
up
in
the
cycle?
Both
our
internal
and
this
community
goal
to
have
kind
of
annual
reports
with
data
performance.
H
B
B
Cool
and
for
those
listening
at
home,
this
is
obviously
near
and
dear
to
my
heart
and
I
know
that
our
role
as
policy
maker
and
that
I
think
Bridget
is
likely
one
of
the
top
sustainability
leaders
in
our
country.
Doing
this
work
and
I'm
grateful
for
it,
and
my
depths
of
what
could
sound
like
going
in
the
weeds
is
because
I
love
so
hard,
I
care
so
hard.
B
B
Roll
call
vote
vice
mayor,
Kilgore,
hi,
councilman,
Olman
I.
This
moves
forward
to
the
full
Council
for
consideration.
Thank
you
all
right.
We
have
several
more
exciting
topics
and
we'll
just
go
straight
into
the
next
one
and
I
think
assistant
city
manager,
Ben
witty,
will
help
us
with
this.
This
is
just
for
us
to
discuss
another
interlocal
agreement
with
the
sheriff's
department
for
something
called
fusis
camera
system.
So
I'll
turn
it
to
you
to
kind
of
give
an
overview,
and
then
I
got
to
do
a
tour
of
this
system.
B
C
Yes,
thank
you,
council,
member
Allman
and
councilmember
Kilgore.
My
name
is
Ben
Woody
assistant
city
manager
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
review
the
proposed
interlocal
agreement
with
the
sheriff's
office
for
the
fuses
system.
C
So
fuses
will
will
start
there.
Fuses
is
a
software
system,
that's
capable
of
extracting
live
and
historical
security
feeds
from
multiple
sources
or
from
multiple
cameras,
those
cameras
and
the
fuses
system.
If
they're
networked,
they
could
be
owned
and
operated
by
the
sheriff's
department,
they
could
be
owned
and
operated
by
the
city.
Private
businesses
and
individuals
can
install
cameras
and
also
add
those
to
the
fuses
system.
C
So
it's
a
network
of
cameras,
a
security
system
that
can
can
grow
as
people
add
cameras
to
the
system
and
one
one
important
thing
I
want
to
note
is
the
fuses
system
is
a
project
of
the
Buncombe
County
Sheriff's
Office,
and
they
are
the
entity
that's
implementing
this
system,
so
this
is
kind
of
their
their
initiative,
they're
getting
off
the
ground
and
again
they
are
responsible
for
the
operation
of
it.
The
maintenance
for
providing
networks,
feeds
speeds
and
all
that
type
of
items
that
are
necessary
to
operate.
C
Back
in
July
of
2022,
we
received
a
requests
from
the
Sheriff's
Office
to
install
fuses,
enabled
cameras
on
a
handful
of
City
properties,
so
back
at
that
time
it
was
Pritchard
Park,
the
intersection
of
Hiawassee
in
Lexington,
as
well
as
City
Hall.
So
it
kind
of
started
this
request
to
make
for
the
county
to
install
fuses
cameras
on
the
City
properties.
C
So
one
thing
the
interlocal
agreement
would
do
is
it
would
provide
permission
for
the
Sheriff's
Office
to
install
the
fuses
link
cameras
on
portions
of
city
property,
of
course,
as
part
of
that
agreement,
they
would
need
to
get
permission
from
the
city
manager
to
move
forward
any
installation
of
cameras
and,
of
course,
you
know,
there's
a
requirement
for
electrical
permits.
Typically,
there
could
even
be
a
building
permit,
depending
on
the
type
of
pole.
C
That's
used
so
again
that
part
of
the
analytical
agreement
creates
a
framework
by
which
they
can
request
to
have
cameras
installed
on
City
properties
and
again
just
want
to
reiterate
that
you
know
they
are
responsible
for
the
installation
and
the
maintenance
at
any
cost
associated
with
the
operation
of
those
fuses
linked
cameras.
The
other
part,
so
the
second
part
of
the
inner
local
agreement
would
also
provide
for
limited
access
by
the
Asheville
Police
Department
to
the
fuses
system.
C
So
if
the
system
included
cameras
on
city,
property,
APD
would
have
access
to
those,
but
if
the
system
also
included
cameras
that
were
say
installed
on
private
property
or
installed
at
Housing,
Authority
properties,
wherever
it
may
be.
This
part
of
the
interlocal
agreement
would
also
give
APD
access
to
those
cameras
and
the
city
limits
excluding
Buncombe
County
schools
in
the
city
limits
that
does
require
a
thirty
thousand
dollar
annual
payment
to
the
Sheriff's
Office
to
participate
and
have
access
to
the
fuses
system.
So
that's
that's
really
what
we're
what
we're
looking
at
today!
C
This
is
also
on
the
consent
agenda
for
to
later
tonight.
If
Council
moves,
It,
Forward
I
can
answer
any
questions
you
have
about
the
interlocal
agreement.
I'll
do
my
best
to
answer
any
technical
questions
that
may
come
up.
B
I
have
some
questions
here
too.
I
don't
know
Sandra
if
you
wanted
to
kick
off
or
you
want
me
to
dig
in
okay.
So
a
handful
of
things
to
say
this
brought
a
lot
of
thoughts
for
me
and
a
lot
of
learning
for
me.
B
So
I
just
want
to
kind
of
share
some
things
that
I
learned
along
the
way.
I
did
a
tour
yesterday
at
like
the
fuses
room,
where
there's
a
bunch
of
this
data,
set
up
and
talked
with
the
sheriff's
department
in
depth
about
their
protocols
and
policies
Etc,
but
before
I
get
into
like
some
of
what
I
learned.
I
just
want
to
say.
B
My
initial
reaction
is
that
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
potential
for
a
tool
like
this
to
improve
our
to
just
continuously,
improve
it
and
be
even
better
at
what
we're
doing
in
our
Police.
Department
I
think
that
continuing
to
run
a
police
department
with
such
low
staff
compared
to
what
we
need
is
hard
and
I
want
to
support
us
in
doing
our
best
and
I.
Think
that
that's
been
really
difficult
for
us
and
I
think
that
a
tool
like
this,
where
there
could
be
real
time
review
of
a
camera.
B
If
we
have
camera
to
really
inform
us
what's
going
on
we're,
starting
all
that
much
with
more
information
for
our
police
team
to
do
their
best
job
to
really
get
to
that
arrest
and
solve
that
crime
so
solve
for
what
happened.
I
think
that's
worth
trying
I
think
that
it's
new
for
us
and
so
with
anything
new.
We
have
to
learn
and
be
cautiously
optimistic,
but
I
think
it's
worth
testing
out
to
see
if
we
can
get
that
information.
The
other
thing
I
think
is
interesting
with
this
fusa
system.
B
Is
that
again,
if
we
have
videotape
of
someone's
face
blatantly
in
the
camera,
after
committing
a
crime
or
during
committing
a
crime
that
then
gets
to
be
used
as
evidence,
so
that
we
aren't
relying
on
hearsay
or
scouring
for
Witnesses?
We
have
evidence
right
away
and
I
think
that
that
really
helps
us
improve
the
timing.
It
takes
to
solve
these
crimes
as
well
as
pursue
the
Justice
process,
so
I'm
I'm
interested
in
cautiously
optimistic
that
we
could
benefit
from
this,
but
it's
new,
so
let's
be
cautious
as
we
as
we
potentially
look
into
it.
B
The
other
thing,
I
want
to
say
is
two
things
or
what
is
that
there
I
see
this.
The
goal
of
this
is
about
really
increasing
our
ability
to
make
arrests
again
with
our
staff
down
I
just
I
wish
I
could
look
every
police
officer
in
the
eye,
and
just
say:
oh,
my
gosh.
This
must
be
so
hard
I
feel
for
you.
B
B
We
need
to
do
there's
programming,
we
need
to
do,
but
we
can't
just
think
either
or
this
is
a
both
and
we
need
to
keep
doing
all
of
that
and
double
down
our
efforts,
and
this
might
be
something
to
help
us
so
I
know
that's
a
big
Preamble,
but
I.
Just
really
I
think
this
is
an
important
Community
conversation
for
us
to
have,
because
this
is
a
new
tool
to
add
into
to
consider
adding
to
our
toolbit.
So
then,
what
I
learned
on
the
tour
I
had
some
specific
questions,
because
this
is
a
video
feed.
B
What
does
that
mean?
And
so
some
of
the
questions
I
had
was
who
owns
this
data?
So
it's
a
live
feed
for
about
72
hours.
Then
it's
automatically
deleted
that
Sheriff
contracts
with
this
company
called
fuses
and
the
infuses
can't
access
this
information.
Unless
the
sheriff's
department
says
hey,
we
just
had
an
incident
at
this
time
at
this
place.
Can
you
please
download
the
file
and
send
it
to
us?
So
it's
not
like
some
other
company
is
using
our
data
against
us
or
taking
these
videos
and
doing
other
things
with
it.
B
It's
our
information
and
it
has
an
auto
delete
after
a
couple
days,
so
it's
really
for
the
use
of
starting
our
leads
with
some
video
data.
The
other
thing
that
I
had
questions
about
was
the
idea
of
facial
recognition
technology,
so
facial
recognition
technology
is
where
AI
is
used
to
say.
Okay,
we
just
got
a
video
of
Maggie
doing
I
shouldn't
use
myself.
B
We
got
a
video
of
Jane
Doe,
doing
something
wrong
and
AI
would
run
that
video
with
anything
like
on
Google
or
in
other
arrest
records
and
then
try
and
match
it
and
then
tell
the
police.
Oh
we
saw
this
live
video.
We
think
it
could
be
Jane
Doe,
one
Jane
Doe,
two
Jane
Doe
three,
that
technology
is
not
being
used
in
our
community
with
this
software.
B
Why
I
think
that's
important
is
that
there
is
a
lot
of
data
tracking
that
there's
racial
bias
in
the
AI
technology
at
this
point
until
and
if
that
concern
is
completely
100
refuted,
I'm
not
comfortable
with
us.
Looking
towards
that
and
I
was
happy
to
hear
the
sheriff
say
the
same
so
facial
recognition.
Software
is
not
part
of
the
system
that
we
are
pursuing.
B
The
last
thing,
I'll
say
after
the
tour
I
took,
is
that
I
just
had
a
lot
of
questions,
because
this
is
like
I
said
new
and
the
sheriff's
department
is
open
to
having
a
tour
with
members
from
the
public.
So
if
anyone
listening
is
like
I
want
to
know
more
I'm
concerned
like
shoot
me,
an
email
and
I
can
coordinate
or
shoot
the
sheriff
and
email,
but
I
know
several
Council
folks
have
done
tours.
It's
really
informative
to
understand.
B
Okay,
now
I'm,
getting
to
kind
of
where
some
of
my
questions
are
questions.
I
have
is
that
in
the
agreement
as
you
shared
Ben,
it
states
that
we
would
Grant
the
sheriff
permission
to
put
a
handful
of
cameras
on
city
property
and
it
would
give
our
Police
Department
access
to
using
the
technology
the
software
essentially
to
look
at
these
video
feeds
when
pursuing
investigations.
B
My
question
is:
when
talking
with
the
sheriff's
department,
there
is
a
handful
of
what
their
they
use
the
language
of
like
audit
controls,
so
who
can
access
this?
The
video
streams
when
why,
for
what
purpose?
What
is
the
paper
trail
of
who
accessed
it
when
why,
for
what
purpose?
Etc
and
I
just
want
to
be
curious?
If
we
could
take
a
look
at
that
or
get
some
more
information
on
that,
my
understanding
is
that
by
us
opting
into
this
system
that
those
policies
would
guide
our
participation
in
it.
B
C
So
anybody
from
APD
that
accesses
the
Busa
system
will
have
to
have
login
credentials
which
will
be
issued
by
the
sheriff's
office,
so
I
think
there
would
obviously
be
a
kind
of
an
audit
trail
of
what
login
was
used
to
view
what
data
went
so
I
think
that's
trackable
in
terms
of
who
is
able
to
obtain
a
login
or
the
manner
in
which
they're
able
to
access
APD
has
proposed
would
be
subject
to
the
Sheriff's
access
policy.
C
So
the
sheriff
would
establish
certain
ranks
that
would
be
able
to
access
the
fuses
system
as
well
as
I
think
there
would
need
to
be
a
notice
provided
to
their
fuses
administrator
in
terms
of
reviewing
previous
footage.
I
don't
have
that
available
today.
Right
now,
but
I
know,
the
share
has
created
an
administrative
policy
that
would
govern
access
for
his
employees,
which
he
would
recommend
would
apply
to
the
APD
employees
as
well,
and
I
see
Deborah's
Race,
For
Hands
I'm,
going
to
Pivot
to
her.
To
add
to
that.
A
Well
and
I
would
just
add
then
and
I,
don't
know
if
the
sheriff
talked
to
you
about
this
councilman
almond,
but
there
there
will
be
kind
of
a
governance
group
that
will
oversee
the
operations
and
management
and
administration
of
the
fuses
system
and
I.
Think
some
of
that
detail
will
also
be
assessed
and
reviewed
by
this
governance
group
as
as
well
I.
Don't
have
all
of
the
slots,
but
I
think
that
I
definitely
know
that
the
chief
of
police
will
be
participating
on
this
governance
group
or
his
designee.
E
Now,
oh,
no,
no!
No
I!
I
put
it
thanks
for
all
the
wonderful
information
Maggie
that
you
brought
in
and
that
being
shared,
but
yeah.
So
I
definitely
think
it's
something
that
we
should
pursue
not
only
for
for
the
people
in
the
community,
especially
the
places
that
we're
actually
sort
of
giving
rights
to
actually
put
up
cameras.
Those
are
mostly
in
commercial
places
that
are
affecting
the
business
owners,
who
basically
are
having
a
hard
time
with
all
types
of
crime,
and
it's
not
even
it's
getting
worse.
E
So
I'm
really
happy
to
see
that
we've
actually
taken
on
this
program
now
with
the
sheriff's
department
and
I,
think
it's
a
plus
for
the
community,
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
moving
forward
with
disagree.
B
So
the
other
thing
on
my
mind
is
that
this
is
on
our
consent
agenda
today.
B
I
guess
this
is
just
all
pretty
new
to
me
and
I'm
kind
of
torn
between
wanting
to
see
if
we
can
get
access
to
the
policy
information
from
the
sheriff
on
kind
of
those
audit
control,
issue
information
and
that
advisory
oversight,
committee
or
just
kind
of
moving
forward
to
council
tonight
or
voting
towards
that,
but
also
recognizing
that,
if
it
is
I,
might
want
the
full
Council
to
talk
about
it
and
and
ask
for
it
to
be
taken
off
consent.
I,
just
I.
My
Spidey
senses
is
that
as
a
new
tool.
B
E
It
I'd
like
to
ask
a
question:
does
anybody
who
talk
about
the
inner
local
agreement?
What's
the
time
frame
have
there
and
what
is
there
a
exit
strategy
in
case
it
doesn't
work,
because
if
it
is
something
like
that
a
safeguard
in
place,
then
it
wouldn't
be
anything
that
we
would
have
to
really.
You
know
just
like
putting
something
in
place
on
a
trial
basis
to
see
how
well
it
worked.
That
could
actually
ended
in
any
specific
time.
So
does
anyone
know
about
the
time
frame
and
safeguards
is
in
place.
C
Yeah
good
good
question
councilman
killed
where
I
can
answer
that
the
the
agreement
is
is
an
annual
agreement,
so
it
would
need
to
be
renewed
annually.
So
once
Council
approves
that
we
would
enter
into
that
agreement
and
it
would
exist
for
a
year
and
then
within
the
agreement.
They're
also
there's
termination
Provisions,
so
I
guess
if
everybody
decided
they
didn't
want
to
run
the
course
of
the
year.
There's
a
process
by
which
a
termination
provision
by
either
party
can
be
initiated.
The
30-day
notice
yeah.
E
B
Yeah
I
hear
that
yeah
I
think
ultimately
I
had
so
many
of
my
questions
answered
I
think
this
technology
could
be
useful.
I
think
the
sheriff's
department
has
been
valuing.
It
I
think
how
much
value
our
Police
Department
sees
in
this
or
gets
from
it
is
like
I
want
to
learn
with
our
Police
Department
to
say
like
how
is
this
working
for
us
as
we
go
so
I
think
that
your
term
is
wise
for
us
to
just
cautiously
move
forward
and
optimistically
move
forward
yeah.
B
So
why
don't
we
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
this,
to
move
forward
to
city,
council
and
I?
Don't
know
if
there's
I
would
love
to
see
it
off
the
consent
agenda
so
that
some
of
the
conversation
we
had
today
could
be
had
with
the
full
Council.
So
just
we're
all
moving
forward
with
the
same
thoughts
and
information
together
and
I.
D
I
can
probably
answer
that,
for
you,
chairman
Oldman,
the
consent
agenda,
having
already
been
published,
is
more
difficult
to
change.
However,
any
council
member
within
their
purview,
has
the
ability
to
request
a
single
item
be
pulled
off.
You
will
then
proceed
with
just
dealing
with
the
remaining
consent
agenda
items
and
then
that
item
that
was
removed
is
handled
separately,
with
as
much
discussion
as
Council
chooses.
B
That's
great
okay,
I
think
we'll
do
that,
because
I
also
remember
when
we
talked
about
an
item
earlier
folks
were
saying:
well
maybe
some
of
this.
So
this
gives
us
a
chance
to
discuss
and
have
this
conversation
and
me
to
say
the
same
things
with
with
more
of
the
public
part
of
it,
which
I
think
will
just
help
us
be
successful.
So
I
make
a
motion
to
approve
this
in
our
local
agreement,
moving
forward
towards
city
council
and.
B
I
guess
so
I
say
I
or,
and
then
vice
mayor,
so
you
seconded
it
and
then
you
say
I,
so
it
is
yes,
okay
and
I
know
there's
been
a
lot
of
work
going
into
this
and
that
we
just
have
a
lot
to
learn
and
look
forward
to
hearing
from
the
police
over
time.
B
Our
chief,
how
this
is
working
for
you,
where
this
could
be
beneficial
all
that
type
of
stuff,
so
we'll
be
in
it
with
you
over
time
to
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
this
new
thing
moves
in
the
direction
we
want
it
to.
If
it
does.
Okay,
all
right,
we
have
one
two
remaining
items.
The
item
seven
are
in.
Our
agenda
is
Asheville
wildlife,
feeding,
ordinance
where
I
think
Brad
and
James
are
going
to
help
us
Kick
this
off.
D
Thank
you,
chairman,
Oldman
I'm,
actually
going
to
start
by
simply
introducing
James.
He
is
joining
us
today
by
himself
I
believe,
but
there
have
been
multiple
members
of
the
North
Carolina
Wildlife
Resource
Commission
that
has
been
working
with
the
city
for
several
months
to
address
this
issue.
I
won't
steal
his
Thunder
because
I'm
sure
he
can
explain
this
better
than
I
can
I'm
going
to.
Let
him
give
a
little
presentation
that
I
believe
he
has
submitted.
D
So
if
we
can
go
ahead
and
pull
that
up
and
then
at
the
end
of
this,
the
ask
will
include
the
recommendation
by
this
committee
to
move
to
council
a
proposed
change
to
our
existing
coordinates.
So
I
will
be
happy
to
address
some
of
those
specifics.
Once
James
has
had
his
opportunity
to
complete
the
presentation
so
with
that
James
I
will
hand
it
to
you.
F
Okay,
thanks
Brad
can.
Can
everybody
hear
me:
okay,
okay,
great
thank
you,
madam
chairwoman,
and
and
council
member
Kilgore
for
the
opportunity
to
talk
to
you
today
and
everyone
else
on
the
call
from
the
cities
City's
office
and
the
public
joining
in
just
a
quick
introduction
here,
as
Brad
mentioned,
there's
been
several
of
us
with
the
Wildlife
Commission
staff
that
have
been
engaging
with
the
city
on
this
important
issue
and
the
lead
of
that
is
Colleen
olfenbuttal,
our
black
bear
project
leader.
F
That's
a
Statewide
position,
Justin
McVeigh
who's
on
the
call
with
us
today
is
our
District
9
wildlife,
biologist
and
District
9
covers
12
counties
in
the
Far
Western
part
of
the
state
and
Buncombe
County
is
included
in
the
Justin's
district
there
and
then
on
the
mountain
operations
supervisor,
so
I
supervise
about
34
counties
here
in
the
western
part
of
the
state,
and
we
wear
a
lot
of
hats
throughout
the
throughout
the
year.
F
But
but
part
of
our
job
is
is
dealing
with
human
Wildlife
interactions
across
the
state
and
a
big
driver
in
in
that
regard
for
us
is,
is
human
bear
interactions
and
Buncombe,
County
and
Asheville
will
certainly
lead
the
way
in
that
and
and
I
want
to
take
a
little
bit
of
time
to
kind
of
frame
the
issue
here
and,
as
Brad
mentioned,
we'll
finish
up
with
kind
of
our
proposal
or
ask
of
the
council
going
forward.
So
next
slide.
Please.
F
So
if
you
live
in
Asheville
or
Buncombe
County,
you
know
these,
these
scenes
are
are
fairly
common
and
what
they
tend
to
represent
are
Bears
coming
in
close
proximity
to
people,
and
these
are
scenes
of
what
we
might
call
unintentional
feeding
of
bears,
and
so
that's,
where
bears
are
attracted
to
a
residence
or
a
business
and
whether
that
is
through
unsecured
trash
bird
feeders,
pet
food.
That's
left
outside
a
well-used
grill
that
that
doesn't
get
cleaned.
Often
whatever
the
attraction
is.
F
The
result
is
the
same,
and
that
is
that
bears
come
into
close
proximity
to
people
over
time.
They
get
habituated
to
that
reward
that
they
receive
when
they
do
come
close
to
people
and
homes
and
businesses,
and
they
get
habituated
to
that.
F
They
lose
their
fear
of
people
over
time
and
and
what
we
really
are
starting
to
see
is
kind
of
this
generational
aspect
to
this,
where
sales
are
bringing
their
cubs
into
these
close
proximate
areas
with
with
homes
and
businesses
and
and
teaching
their
young,
that
that
there's
a
reward
to
be
gained
by
coming
close
to
these
places
and
so
that
quickly
these
barriers
begin
to
lose
their
fear
of
people.
F
And
it's
it's
a
good
thing
when
we're
talking
about
Wildlife,
that
they
have
a
a
fear
of
people
and
and
and
also
that
people
have
a
healthy
respect
for
these
Critters
and
understand
that
in
order
to
keep
people
safe
and
and
bears
wild,
it's
very
important
that
we
do
not
allow
them
to
gain
that
reward
when
they
come
close
to
our
homes
or
or
businesses,
and
lose
that
fear
of
people
all
right.
F
F
So
these
are
the
number
of
calls
or
emails
voicemails
that
we
receive
that
our
staff
receive
across
the
state
and
and
we
track
that
we
categorize
it-
you
know
depending
on
which
species
it
is
what
the
nature
of
the
call
or
the
report
is.
You
know,
is
it
just
that
I
saw
a
bear
in
the
yard?
Is
it
a
bear
on
my
porch?
Is
it
a
bear
trying
to
gain
access
to
my
home?
You
know
it's.
It's
a
wide
variety
of
potential
reports
there,
but
you
can
see
that
Buncombe
County
leads
the
state.
F
This
data
represents
the
year
of
2020.,
so
you
can
see
the
Buncombe
County
by
far
leads
the
state
and
the
number
of
human
barrier
interaction
reports
that
we
get
throughout
that
course
of
time
all
right,
next
one
and
just
another
figure
to
try
to
represent
that
call
volume
that
we
do
have.
So
this
is
a
a
graph
over
the
last
20
years
there
on
your
y-axis
is
the
number
of
human
bear
interaction
reports
that
our
staff
received
over
that
20
years,
and
so
the
kind
of
reddish
maroon
section
of
that
bar
chart.
F
There
is
just
out
of
the
total
number
of
calls
across
the
state
what
percent
that
represented
or
originated
from
Buncombe
County,
and
so
over
that
last
20
years
you
can
see
the
trend
is,
is
going
up,
but
the
percentage
of
calls
that
Buncombe
County
but
then
accounts
for
you
know
very
somewhat,
but
generally
it's
about
40
percent
of
the
human
bear
interaction
calls
that
we
receive
across
the
state
originate
from
Buncombe
County.
F
Just
a
just
a
quick
note
there
in
2017,
you
can
see
that
real
Stark
increase
in
the
call
value
or
the
call
reports
there.
We
instituted
a
a
call
center
in
our
Raleigh
headquarters
office
in
2017,
We've
staffed
it
with
four
permanent
full-time
biologists
positions
to
handle
the
multitude
of
phone
calls
and
reports
that
our
agency
receives
throughout
the
year
and
and
associated
with
that
new
call
center.
F
And
so,
as
I
mentioned,
you
know
the
the
pictures
that
we
saw
earlier
kind
of
represented
scenarios
of
unintentional
feeding,
and
that's
something
that
that
you
know
we
feel
fairly
confident
that
can
be
addressed
in
a
large
percentage
of
scenarios
there
through
education
with
the
residents
there
on
on.
What's
attracting
that
bear
close
to
their
home,
how
to
resolve
that
situation
and
and
be
bear
wise
and
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
specifically
about
bear
wise
in
a
minute.
F
But
what
what's
really
concerning
to
us
and
and
why
we
approach
the
the
city
officials
about
this
issue
is
the
increase
that
we're
seeing
in
purposeful
feeding
of
of
wildlife
but
bears
in
particular,
and
that
could
be
residents
in
the
city.
It
could
be.
You
know,
we've
had
scenarios
with
workers
and
also
the
visitors
with
the
tourism
and
the
Asheville
area.
You've
got
people
moving
to
Asheville
from
parts
of
the
country
that
they've
never
seen
a
bear
or
lived
in
Bear,
Country,
and
and
now
they
are,
and
so
you
know
it's
it's
always.
F
It
appears
to
be
cute
and
cuddly
to
try
to
get
a
picture
of
of
someone
with
a
bear,
and,
and
food
is
usually
the
attractant
used
to
do
that-
that's
dangerous
for
people
and
it's
just
as
dangerous
for
the
Bayer.
So
this
is
the
issue
that
we
really
want
to
try
to
address
today.
With
this
proposal
to
to
the
Sydney's
ordinance
all.
G
F
Next
question
next
slide,
and
so
the
you
know
we
talked
about
these
barriers
becoming
habituated
to
people
and
food
conditioned
to
these
rewards
coming
in
close
proximity
to
people's
homes
and
businesses,
and
what
we've
seen
over
the
last
20
months,
going
back
to
March
2021
is
an
escalation
in
concerning,
bear
reports
and
when
I
say
concerning.
F
If
we
look
at
our
little
table
there,
that's
kind
of
what
we're
talking
about
these
kind
of
reports,
where
a
bear
has
attempted
to
enter
a
home
reports
of
bears
actually
gaining
entry
into
a
home
when
people
are
inside
the
residence
or
gaining
entry
into
a
home
when
people
are
not
there,
but
they
come
home
and
and
see
that
a
bear
has
been
in
the
home,
threatening,
behavior
and
so
an
example
of
threatening
behavior.
F
When
we're
talking
about
black
bears
would
be
people
out
for
a
walk
in
the
neighborhood
and
a
bears
following
them,
or
people
are
in
their
yard,
doing
whatever
they're
doing
and
a
bears
approaching
them.
So
those
are
some
examples
of
threatening
behavior
that
when
we
receive
a
report
like
that,
it
really
raises
a
flag
to
us
that
that
beer
is
not
behaving
as
it
should
around
people
again
that
that
healthy
fear
of
people
that
Wildlife
should
have
where
they
see
people
and
typically
would
turn
and
go
the
other
direction.
F
They
do
not
want
to
come
into.
Pro,
close
proximity
to
people
and
in
in
the
large
large
majority
of
situations.
Food
is
the
issue
there
that
has
led
to
that
lack
of
fear
of
people
and
very
concerning
we
have.
We
have
received
a
lot
of
reports
of
people
intentionally
feeding
bears
now
that
number
57
there
doesn't
necessarily
represent
57
different
situations
or
or
locations
or
people
intentionally
feeding.
F
We
do
get
multiple
reports
on
the
same
situation,
but
but
that
number
is
very
concerning
to
us
and
and
ultimately
the
behavior
that
it
leads
to
with
these
bears,
trying
to
gain
access
to
homes
getting
into
homes,
while
people
are
there,
those
are
red
flags
for
us
and-
and
it's
really,
what
elevates
this
issue
to
the
public
safety
concern
that
it
is
okay,
next
slide.
F
And
since
2009
Bears
have
made
physical
contact
with
humans
eight
times
in
Buncombe
County,
if
we
kind
of
paint
the
broader
reference
to
that,
what
does
that
mean
across
the
state,
at
least
where
bears
are
across
the
rest
of
North
Carolina?
That
Mayors
have
made
contact
with
humans
seven
times
since
2007
across
the
rest
of
the
state?
F
So,
as
we
can
see
this,
you
know
all
the
factors
in
play
here
in
Buncombe,
County
in
particular,
in
Asheville,
are
setting
the
table
for
the
more
frequent
situations
where
bears
actually
make
physical
contact
with
people,
and
we've
highlighted
a
few
of
those
recently
here
in
2018
in
Swannanoa
2021
down
in
Hendersonville
and
then
recently
there's
a
folk,
Arts
Center
attack
in
2021
and
I.
F
You
know,
I'll
make
a
point
to
say
that
that
all
three
of
these
scenarios
did
involve
pits,
and
so
you
know
when
we
talk
about
people
being
bearwise
and
educating
people
on
how
to
live
responsibly
in
Bear
Country.
We
talk
a
lot
about
attractants
and
you
know:
unsecured,
garbage
bird
feeders,
pet
food
outside
those
kinds
of
things.
But
you
know
we
do
see
that
Unleashed
dogs
in
particular
do
do
tend
to
be
a
Common
Thread
in
scenarios
where
Bears
make
physical
contact.
F
Okay,
next
slide
and
there's
an
old
adage
that
a
Fed
bear
is
a
dead
bear
and-
and
that
is
certainly
true-
you
know
it
can
result
directly.
So
we've
had
a
couple
of
scenarios
this
year,
that's
a
picture
of
Justin
McVeigh
there
on
on
the
left.
We
had
several
scenarios
this
year,
where
Bears
begin
coming
in
close
proximity
to
homes.
F
Looking
for
a
free
meal,
they've
obviously
gained
that
reward
in
the
past,
and
so
it
becomes
a
part
of
their
natural
search
pattern
in
these
developed
areas
of
Asheville
and
the
their
picture
there
on
the
left.
You
can
see
a
large,
you
know,
probably
a
plastic
food
dispenser
with
the
lid.
F
Another
scenario
there
in
the
Middle,
where
we
had
a
cub,
got
his
head
stuck
in
a
big
Cheeto
puff
container
and
the
once
it
gets
that
opening
gets
around
their
ears
and
and
then
down
onto
their
neck.
It
becomes
very
difficult,
if
not
impossible,
for
them
to
remove
that
container
from
their
head,
and
you
know
if,
if
Justin
had
wasn't
able
to
respond
and
and
resolve
that
situation,
that
Kev
would
have
would
have
died
at
some
point.
F
So
there
is
a
direct
harm
and
concern
for
the
welfare
of
these
Bears
when
they're
able
to
get
access
to
trash
but
bears
being
fed,
whether
unintentionally
or
intentionally,
Bears
getting
fed
by
people
human
provided
Foods.
They
lose
that
lack
of
you
know
they
lose
that
healthy
fear
of
people.
We
get
into
situations
where
their
behavior
escalates
and
and
in
certain
scenarios
and
drastic
you
know,
situations
where
Public
Safety
is
the
overwhelming
concern.
We
have
had
to
go
out
trap
some
individual
bears
and
euthanize
them.
F
Another
call,
you
know
another
type
of
report
that
we
do
receive
over
the
course
of
the
year
or
vehicle
strikes
for
for
a
number
of
wildlife,
but
we're
looking
specifically
at
Bears
here.
So
these
are
the
reported
vehicle
bear
mortalities
across
the
state,
and
this
is
the
year
of
2020.,
and
you
can
see
the
Buncombe
County
leads
the
way
there
so
with
the
increased
development
in
Buncombe,
County
and
Asheville,
more
people
moving
to
the
area
more
road,
construction
and
development
and
the
bear
population
is
doing
quite
well.
F
It
continues
to
grow
at
about
a
five
percent
annual
rate.
You
know
just
the
way
Asheville
lays
in
the
broader
landscape
there,
surrounded
by
a
lot
of
national
forests.
You've
got
the
Asheville
Watershed,
it's
just
kind
of
a
perfect
storm
for
a
lot
of
people
and
a
lot
of
bears
to
live
in
close
proximity
to
one
another,
and
so
we
do
have
a
lot
of
vehicle
mortalities
and
bears
in
in
Buncombe
County,
and
this
is
one
year
2020
like
I
said.
F
But
this
is
you
know,
consistent
year
after
year
that
that
Buncombe
County
leads
the
state
in
in
vehicle,
better
mortalities,
and
so
that's
a
that's
another
cause
for
concern.
As
we
talk
about
this
feeding
situation,
because
more
bears
are
going
to
be
living
in
close
proximity
to
I-26,
to
I-40
those
major
roadways
in
and
around
Buncombe
County,
in
Asheville,
as
their
searching
for
food
in
those
developed
areas,
and
so
that
puts
them
more
In,
Harm's
Way
of
those
potential
mortality
sources.
F
And
so
how
do
we
go
about
managing
human
bear
interactions
and
and
kind
of,
as
I
alluded
to
earlier
in
in
a
you
know,
95
of
these
scenarios.
These
reports,
these
instances
that
we
try
to
deal
with
education
is,
is
just
Paramount
and
securing
attractants
goes
a
long
way
into
solving
these
potential
conflicts
that
we're
that
we're
seeing
an
escalation
in.
F
But
in
order
to
manage
these
interactions,
we
have
to
manage
people,
and
so
it
really
falls
on
the
residents,
the
business
owners,
the
community
City
officials,
County
officials,
State
officials,
to
help
educate
people
and
and
really
to
change
our
Behavior.
You
know
there's
some
easy
things
that
people
can
can
do,
keeping
their
trash
secured.
You
know
not
having
bird
feeders
out
when,
when
bears
are
very
active,
not
feeding
pits
outside
keeping
your
pets
on
a
leash.
F
F
F
You
know,
depending
on
the
situation,
they
kind
of
triage,
all
those
calls
and
then
I'll
send
out
to
our
district
biologist
and
and
our
Wildlife
Enforcement
Officers
or
our
County
game
wardens
to
handle
a
situation
follow
up
on
a
report
if,
if
need
be,
and
so
a
lot
of
times,
you'll
see
Justin
there
on
on
site
with
landowners
or
members
of
a
community.
F
Talking
about
you
know,
educating
on
bear
biology
what
the
rules
and
laws
are
of
the
State
governing
black
bear
management
and
and
talking
to
Residents
about
the
steps
that
they
can
take
to
alleviate
concerns
solve
any
issues,
removing
attractants
having
how
to
go
about
doing
that
and
living
responsibly
in
Bear
Country,
when
it's
a
when
it's
a
situation
about
purposeful
feeding
of
bears,
that's
usually
involved
in
our
district
biologist
Justin
there
and
one
of
our
game
wardens
to
go
along
and
make
a
site
visit.
F
G
F
Really
all
we
have
in
our
disposal,
there
is
educating
them
and
then
the
powers
of
persuasion
to
try
to
get
them
to
stop,
purposely
feeding,
bears
and-
and
that
has
proven
to
be
inadequate
up
to
this
point.
Okay
next
slide.
F
The
other
thing
that
we're
doing
is
is
our
bear
wise
campaign.
We,
the
The,
Wildlife
Commission,
came
on
board
with
this
program.
Our
black
bear
biologist,
Colleen
offamoto
was
pretty
instrumental
in
this
campaign.
It's
it's
a
national
campaign.
F
It's
a
comprehensive
and
science-based
approach
to
provide
information
and
resources
to
people
to
live
responsibly
in
Bear
Country,
and
it
revolves
around
six
Basics
or
six
tenants
and
that's
pretty
much
securing
attractants
keeping
pets
on
leashes
and
communicating
with
your
neighbors
when
you
see
Bears
or
how
to
report,
bear
activity.
Understanding
bear
Behavior.
So
you
know
when
a
bear
is,
is
just
doing
its
day-to-day
thing
or
if
it's
actually
exhibiting
some
kind
of
threatening
behavior.
F
It's
consistent
messaging,
it's
science
based,
and
so
we're
really
committed
to
getting
the
word
out
and
using
that
as
our
educational
tool
and
give
a
shout
out
to
Ashley
Hobbs
who
works
for
Colleen.
She
lives
there
in
Asheville
and
and
has
really
been
leading
the
charge.
With
our
bearwise
outreach
program.
We
have
four
recognized
bearwise
communities
or
neighborhoods
there.
F
In
Asheville
we
have
a
she's
got
a
bearwise
business,
the
Sierra
Nevada
Brewery
down
the
Mills
River
on
board,
and
then
one
one
college
has
has
recently
become
bear
wise,
recognized,
and
so
that's
a
commitment
by
those
communities.
Business
college.
That's
a
commitment
by
them
to
adhere
to
those
bear
wise
Basics
and
set
up
a
process
on
how
to
alert
their
residents
or
patrons
on
concerning
better
Behavior
or
you
know
their
bear
in
the
area
and
how
to
go
about
reporting
that
to
the
Wildlife
Commission.
F
Okay
next
slide,
also
working
with
Asheville
sanitation
on
the
bear
resistant,
cart
pilot
program
and
and
want
to
give
a
big
props
to
Jess
Foster
there
at
the
solid
waste
Sanitation
Department
for
her
efforts
with
that-
and
we
know,
there's
I-
think
the
last
word
I
heard
there
was
roughly
700
cards
deployed
and
and
the
waiting
list
continues
to
grow.
Unfortunately,
the
price
of
those
carts
continues
to
go
up.
F
Just
we
all
know
the
market
we're
living
in
these
days,
and
so
that
you
know
the
economics
of
that
program
continue
to
be
a
hurdle.
But
we
look
forward
to
trying
to
continue
to
work
through
those
hurdles
and
and
overcome
those
challenges
so
that
Resident,
if
a
resident
wants
a
bear
resistant
card,
then
they
can,
they
can
get
access
to
that.
We
also
work
with
the
Western
North
Carolina
Nature
Center
there
to
test
out
bear
resistant
products.
So
the
you
know
securing
trash
doesn't
mean
you
have
to
have
a
bear
resistant
cart.
F
There
are
retrofits
and
other
tools
that
can
work
with
the
city's
collection
system
to
to
keep
that
trash
and
recycling
secure,
and
so
we
work
with
them
to
test
out
those
Products
that
come
up
on
the
market
and
end
up
on
the
shelves
and
hardware
stores
to
see
if
they
actually
do
work
and
are
effective.
And
so
we
appreciate
that
partnership
with
them
and
then
our
last
resort,
like
I
mentioned
earlier,
is
actually
going
out
and
capturing
Bears
that
exhibit
a
public
safety
concern.
The
Wildlife
Resources
Commission
does
not
relocate
barriers.
F
We
for
a
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
but
primarily
we.
We
don't
have
anywhere
that
we
can
really
take
them
in
North
Carolina,
where
they
don't
end
up
back
where
people
are,
they
have
a
strong
homing
Instinct,
and
we
know
that
they're
going
to
end
up
back
where
they
were
eventually
and
if
you
move
a
bear.
That's
causing
an
issue
is
habituated
in
food
condition.
F
Then
you
just
move
the
problem
to
someone
else's
backyard,
and
so
that's
not
a
long-term
solution
to
the
issue
at
hand
and
to
say
that
that
it
is,
you
know,
a
dangerous
proposition
for
the
Bears
and
for
our
staff
to
to
to
go
out
and
try
to
trap
and
put
hands
on
these
animals.
Okay,
next
slide.
F
So
when,
when
we
approached
the
City
staff
a
few
months
ago,
as
Brad
indicated,
we
we
kind
of
had
three
bullets
of
what
we
wanted
to
recommend
and
try
to
partner
with
the
city
on
the
first
one
of
those
was
our
bear
wise
Outreach,
trying
to
pull
the
cities
public
information
office
into
that
effort
and
and
help
us
to
promote
that
consistent
bear-wise
message
and
also
promote
our
NC
Wildlife
helpline.
That's
our
call
center
that
I
referenced
earlier
for
residents
to
contact.
F
You
know
kind
of
be
the
go-to
to
contact
for
for
issues
or
concerns
they
have
about
black
bears
around
the
house,
and
so
we've
been
able
to
connect
our
public
information
officers
with
the
commission
and
the
City
of
Asheville
and
and
so
we're
we're
all
down
the
road
with
that
effort,
and
we
appreciate
that
cooperation,
but
we
continue
to
you
know,
continue
to
try
to
find
ways
to
expand
the
bear
resistant
cart
program
there
in
the
city
and
and
the
reason
for
our
time
together
today
to
strengthen
and
clarify
the
city's
wildlife
feeding
ordinance.
F
Once
we
got
a
chance
to
take
a
look
at
that
language,
we
we
could
see
there
was
some
opportunities
for
improvement
to
really
dial
in
that
language
to
deal
with
certain
situations
that
we
like
those
purposeful
feeding,
situations
that
are
very
concerning
or
dangerous
for
people
and
they're
dangerous
for
bears,
and
so
next
slide
there.
F
So
we've
got
a
couple
of
slides
here
just
with
the
current
language
there
and
then
the
proposed
language
and
and
Brad
I'll,
maybe
bring
you
in
here
I'm
happy
to
go
through
this,
or
maybe
it's
more
appropriate
that
you
do
I'm.
D
Happy
to
do
that
James.
So,
if,
if
you
want
your
feed
that'll
make
you
lose
that
Echo
there,
you
go
all
right.
Well,
thank
you,
James,
for
that
I
think
I
can
pretty
succinctly.
Go
over
the
proposed
changes.
The
good
news
for
Asheville
is.
D
We
already
had
a
wildlife
feeding
ordinances
on
our
books,
so
we
do
not
have
to
Simply
start
from
scratch,
but
the
changes
we
are
making
have
been
those
that
have
been
proposed
by
the
North
Carolina
Wildlife
Resource
Commission,
with
the
assistance
of
the
city
attorney's
office,
to
be
able
to
lace
them
into
the
existing
language
to
strengthen
and
update
our
ordinance
where
we
felt
it
would
be
most
efficient.
D
So
I'll
quickly
go
over
those
areas
with
you,
but
let
me
say
from
the
outset:
the
primary
changes
we
are
making
are
these
number
one
we're
reducing
the
time
required
to
correct
to
violations.
We
are
adding
an
additional
definitions
that
include
attracting
animals
and
Wildlife
specifically
bears
as
one
of
the
prohibited
activities.
We
are
further
refining
the
definitions
of
those
activities
and
we
are
also
increasing
the
scope
of
those
members
of
City
staff
who
can
address
the
issue
in
order
to
add
efficiency
so
quickly.
D
I
think
I
can
go
through
these,
as
as
very
briefly
as
as
possible
and
say
that
in
section
3.7,
which
is
up
there,
you
will
see
that
we
have
essentially
made
a
change
or
a
suggested
change
where
we
are
reducing
the
time
period
for
correcting
a
violation
from
60
days
down
to
14.
D
and
I.
Think
we
can
move
on
now
to
the
next
section,
which
is
actually
3.9.
Where
we're
making
a
couple
of
changes.
We
are
adding
the
language
quote:
unquote
attracting
to
those
prohibited
activities.
We
are
already
prohibiting
the
keeping
possession,
harboring
or
feeding
of
wild
animals,
but
we
are
adding
attracting
wild
animals
to
cover
a
broader
scope,
and
then
we
are
going
so
far
as
to
Define
further
what
it
means
to
attract
wild
edibles,
and
you
can
see
that
definition
highlighted
on
this
slide.
D
We
are
going
on
to
further
Define
a
term
quote
unquote
damage
as
it
relates
to
property
again
just
to
provide
further
analysis
and
focus
on
these
particular
elements
of
the
prohibited
activities,
primarily
centered
around
those
that
would
attract
these
animals
into
these
human
and
and
wild
animal
interactions,
and
then
finally,
I
can
point
to
section
11
of
this
broader
section,
subsection,
11
I
should
say
to
note
that,
although
it's
not
highlighted,
we
have
added
in
in
a
couple
of
places
where
City
staff
as
appropriate,
not
just
Wildlife
our
Animal
Resource
officers
have
the
authority
to
respond
to
these.
D
This
is
solely
to
add
efficiency
to
the
process,
so
that
City
staff
can
address
these
issues
as
quickly
and
as
collaboratively
as
possible.
Those
amount
to
all
the
changes
that
we're
making.
You
can
see
that
language
that's
been
highlighted.
The
penalties
for
these
remain
a
civil
penalty.
They
escalate
with
increasing
iterations
of
violations,
but
the
total
amounts
of
those
penalties
have
not
changed.
D
There
are
no
criminal
penalties
associated
with
this,
and
perhaps
most
importantly,
I
can
say
that
you
are
allowed
to
keep
your
bird
feeders
so
long
as
those
bird
feeders
do
not
become
specific
attractants
to
Bears,
so
I
know
certain
people
are
concerned
about
that.
But
with
that
I
know,
James
would
join
me
in
saying
that
we'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you've
got.
Our
request
of
this
committee
is
that
you
would
approve
for
the
consideration
of
the
full
city
council.
B
I
appreciate
the
detailed
overview
James.
A
lot
of
that
resonates.
You
know,
I,
think
that,
having
it
put
out
there
and
seeing
the
data
just
kind
of
confirms
and
gives
that
backup
of
this
trend,
we're
seeing
and
I
appreciate
the
thoughtfulness
of
you
know.
Some
folks
have
just
live
with
theirs
forever,
and
so
they
kind
of
know
it,
and
we
just
need
all
of
our
neighbors
to
gain
that
information
too,
so
that
we
can
keep
ourselves
and
bears
safe.
B
I.
Don't
have
any
specific
questions
of
the
presentation.
I,
don't
know.
If
you
do,
Sandra
I
will
say
that
I
don't
know
that
maybe
I
missed
it,
but
the
ordin,
the
language
change.
I,
didn't
see
ahead
of
this
call
and
I
think
like
many
humans,
I'm
not
able
to
read,
listen,
think
strategically
in
order
to
approve
like
in
two
seconds.
So
it's
hard
for
me
to
like
I,
didn't
even
get
to
really
read
that
language,
so
I
mean
we
still
have
12
minutes.
B
If
you
want
to
put
the
slide
up
and
give
us
a
couple
minutes
to
just
sit
quietly
with
it,
we
could
probably
pursue
giving
a
thumbs
up
today,
but
in
the
future.
If
there's
really
text
changes,
I
need
I
need
to
see
that
ahead
of
time.
I
can't
really,
but
I
won't
give
you
my
best
self,
if
I'm
having
to
do
that
on
the
fly
but
I'm
willing
to
do
that
today.
If
you
want
to
give
us
a
couple
minutes.
D
Madam
chair
that
makes
total
sense
and
I
would
refer
the
committee
to
the
staff
report.
It
does
include
the
proposed
resolution,
which
is
the
updated
ordinance
and
in
red,
is
the
changes
of
the
text.
There
aren't
many
of
these
I'm.
D
One
today,
I'm,
not
not
at
all
and
and
I,
can
go
ahead
and
very
quickly
highlight
again,
there's
only
two
sections
of
the
ordinance
which
are
changing
and
I
I
can
show
Point
you
to
those
very
quickly.
All
of
this
is
contained
in
chapter
three
of
our
code
of
ordinances,
article
one
section
three.
All
of
this
is
our
wildlife,
feeding,
ordinance
and
I.
Will
First
Direct
everyone's
attention
to
subsection
3.7
in
3.7,
A9
and
I
know
I'm
being
specific,
but
but
this
is
is
where
this
is.
D
We
have
added
the
following
language:
giving
the
wildlife
resource
officer
authority
too,
and
they
already
had
this
the
majority
of
this
to
issue
orders
or
warnings
in
their
sole
discretion
regarding
the
presence
of
bears
or
their
wild
animals
in
the
area
and
directing
residents
in
the
area
to
remove
secure
or
secure
attractants
within
14
days.
The
real
change
here
is:
we
went
from
60
days
to
14
days,
so
it's
just
quickening
the
pace
with
which
anyone
has
to
correct
a
violation.
Now
we've
added
subparts
one
and
two
there,
but
those
already
existed.
D
We
did
that
only
to
highlight
that
this
is
important
here.
So
a
failure
to
comply
does
expose
you
to
a
civil
penalty.
That
was
already
the
case,
but
we
wanted
to
add
this
language
just
to
make
sure
it's
very
clear
and
that
the
provision
may
be
enforced
within
the
corporate
boundaries
of
the
city
of
Asheville
that
wasn't
included
with
specificity,
but
all
of
our
ordinances
are
already
only
generally
applicable
within
the
city
limits.
So
those
are
the
only
changes
to
that
first
section.
D
If
we
move
on
down
to
section
3.9-
and
this
is
all
within
3.9-
a
the
changes
that
we
made
are
first
section
subsection.
Six
all
of
this
was
already
prohibited-
the
keeping
possession
harboring
feeding
of
wild
animals,
but
we
added
the
word
attracting.
So
this
is
only
the
first
one
additional
word
there.
Adding
attracting
animals
or
wild
animals
is
now
would
be
a
prohibited
activity,
and
then
we
further
added
some
definitionary
language,
so
we've
added
in
there
what
it
means
to
attract,
and
you
can
see
that
highlighted
there.
D
So
it's
now
it's
not
limited
to,
but
including
the
attractant,
the
tracking,
the
presence
of
bears
or
wild
animals
that
creates
a
danger
to
humans,
Wildlife
or
domestic
animals,
or
causes
dangers
to
other
properties,
so
that
definitionary
language
was
not
previously
there.
But
we
thought
this
is
really
what
we're
trying
to
focus
on
so
I
want
to
include
that
and
then
the
second
highlighted
area
just
defines
what
it
means
to
be
a
danger.
D
So
this
again
shall
come
with
the
potential
for
human
injury
or
death,
the
potential
for
increased
risk
or
disease
transmission
in
between
the
animal
and
humans,
or
increased
potential
for
death
and
injury
to
the
Bears
livestock
or
other
companion
animals.
Those
are
essentially
all
of
the
changes
that
we
made.
The
only
other
tweak
we
made
in
a
couple
of
little
places
is
all
of
this
used
to
be
completely
at
the
responsibility
and
purview
of
the
wildlife
resource
officer,
but
it's
cases
where
perhaps
they
aren't
available
or
there's
some
other
responding
agency.
D
We've
given
the
Authority
for
City
staff
in
general
to
issue
these
orders
or
to
enforce
it
per
the
terms
of
the
ordinance
that
it
represents.
The
entirety
of
the
updates
that
we've
made
again,
we
already
had
an
ordinance
in
place,
so
we're
lucky
we're
only
tweaking
and
not
recreating,
but
those
are
the
changes
that
we
would
suggest.
B
Thanks
again,
I
appreciate
that
and
apologies
for
needing
that
extra
review,
Sandra.
Anything
on
your
mind.
Okay,
I
make
a
motion
to
move
this
forward
to
city
council.
B
Thank
you
all
right,
I'll
do
a
roll
call!
The
vice
mayor,
Kilgore
councilwoman,
Oldman
I.
The
motion
passes
and
moves
towards
full
Council,
all
right,
James.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
being
here,
I
really
appreciate
your
overview
and
Mr
McVeigh,
thanks
for
the
work
that
you're
doing
for
us
and
for
keeping
us
on
your
team
as
we
do
this
better.
Thank
you.
B
Our
last
item
on
the
agenda
is
public
comment.
We
didn't
have
any
at
the
beginning
of
a
call,
not
sure
if
there's
any
now.