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Let
me
begin
good
afternoon
my
name's
esther
manheimer,
I'm
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
asheville
and
the
chair
of
the
governance
committee,
I'd
like
to
welcome
you
to
our
meeting
just
minimizing
this,
so
I
can
see
it.
At
the
same
time,
all
council
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually
to
help
our
audience
follow
along
I'll
state.
Each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud
we're
streaming
live
in
our
virtual
engagement
hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city's
website.
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B
B
B
D
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And
myself,
I
minutes
have
been
approved.
Okay.
Next,
our
agenda
is
initiatives
on
access
to
government.
This
is
our
sole
agenda
item
for
today,
and
it
is
an
update
on
the
cd
initiatives
to
increase
access
to
government
and
dawah.
Hitch
will
present
this
item,
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
dollar.
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F
Next
slide,
please
all
right:
there
are
legal
requirements
that
relate
to
accessibility.
First,
the
open
meetings
law,
which
is
a
north
carolina
general
statute.
That
requires
proper
notice
in
the
keeping
of
official
meeting
minutes
for
official
meetings
of
public
bodies
with
respect
to
the
proper
notice.
Regular
meetings
scheduled
a
regular
meeting
schedule
must
be
established
and
any
deviation
from
that
schedule
should
be
reported
to
the
city
clerk
and
properly
noticed.
Changes
in
the
regular
schedule
should
be
known.
Seven
days
in
advance
and
special
called
meetings
should
be
noticed.
F
A
minimum
of
48
hours
in
advance,
of
course,
there's
an
opportunity
for
public
attendance
and
they
must
be
open
to
the
public
unless
business
is
being
transacted
via
a
closed
session.
F
So,
in
addition
to
the
open
meetings
law
with
respect
to
accessibility,
there's
also,
the
americans
with
disability
act
policy
which
addresses
there.
There
must
be
requests
for
persons
with
disabilities
for
reasonable
accommodations
to
access,
city
programs,
services
and
facilities.
So
currently,
accommodation
examples
include
web
website,
translation,
public
input,
translation
and
closed
captioning
for
virtual
meetings.
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
some
of
the
specific
examples
for
accessibility,
as
we
move
through
the
presentation.
F
Next
slide,
all
right.
So
when
we're
talking
about
enhancing
accessibility,
we're
talking
about
that
in
a
number
of
different
facets,
so
at
the
very
base
of
it
we're
providing
communication
that
is
clear,
consistent
and
easy
to
understand
and
we're
also
providing
communication
in
multiple
formats.
So
all
people
have
access
and
again
we'll
be
talking
about
what
some
of
those
different
mediums
are.
As
we
move
through
the
presentation,
we
also
want
to
provide
information
that
is
proactive
and
easy
to
find.
F
We
want
to
provide
all
people
access
to
information
and
actions
that
impact
their
daily
lives,
and
we
want
to
provide
multiple
tools
and
ways
for
people
to
engage
so
as
we're
thinking
about
accessibility
as
we're
thinking
about
accessibility.
All
of
these
different
points
are
are
taken
into
consideration
with
how
we
deliver
information
and
invite
people
into
conversations
next
slide
all
right.
So
in
today's
presentation
we're
going
to
do
two
things,
I'm
going
to
go
over
an
overview
with
where
we
are
with
access
to
decision
making
through
three
paths.
F
So
the
first
path
is
access
through
engagement
efforts
of
city
departments,
then
access
through
boards
and
commissions
and
access
through
city
council.
So
there's
there's
three
categories
that
we'll
be
looking
at
and
as
we
talk
about
the
things
we're
doing
within
each
of
those
categories,
we've
noted
where
we
have
a
current
practice
where
we
have
a
current
practice
in
place,
but
we
know
it
needs
improvement
or
better
consistency
and
then
the
third
area
we
we've
identified
areas
where
we
know
that
there
are
challenges
and
longer
term
solutions
are
likely
in
those
areas.
F
So
that's
that's
the
first
part
of
the
presentation
and
then
the
second
part
we'll
be
talking
about
our
continuous
improvement
and
opportunities
moving
forward
next
slide.
So
I'll
pause
there
that's
kind
of
the
big
overview.
I
guess
the
anticipation
is
there
for
what's
to
come.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
before
we
dive
into
the
details?.
F
So
here
is
here
in
this
part
of
the
presentation,
I'm
going
to
be
going
through
different
practices
that
we
currently
have
in
place
and,
as
I
share
before
kind
of
where
we
are
with
each
of
them.
So
the
first
one
is
our
website
project
pages.
So,
on
the
front
page
of
the
city's
website,
you
can
get
to
city
projects
and
initiatives
and
hopefully
within
two
and
no
more
than
three
clicks,
you
can
get
to
the
different
projects
or
public
engagement
efforts
that
are
underway
to
participate
and
or
simply
be
informed.
F
F
Our
goal
is
to
be
really
clear
with
each
of
our
projects
about
what's
happening
now,
to
give
good
background
for
our
community
members
so
that
they
can
see
how
we
got
to
this
point
of
this
being
a
project
to
begin
with,
and
then
a
timeline.
So
our
community
knows
when
to
expect
certain
things
might
be
happening
on
the
ground
and
or
if
there
are
opportunities
to
engage
on
any
decision
making
that
is
related
to
that
project.
F
So
in
the
area
of
where
we
know
that
we
we've
got
some
challenges
that
need
to
be
addressed.
The
first
is
that
we
know
that
the
way
we
are
currently
linking
to
documents,
those
being
in
a
pdf
format,
presents
challenges,
and
so
staff
has
been
looking
at
certain
solutions
to
how
we
address
that
and
and
it's
it
is
something
that
is
still
being
researched.
Multiple
options
are
being
considered
as
we
look
to
address
that
challenge.
F
The
second
challenge
is
that
we've
got
a
decentralized
approach
to
posting
meeting
materials
and
and
what
that
means
is
that
we've
got
staff
across
all
departments
that
are
posting
materials
to
our
project
pages.
F
We've
got
project
managers,
we've
got
administrative
staff,
and
while
we
are
working
hard
to
make
sure
that
everybody
has
training
for
presenting
information
on
the
website
in
an
accessible
way,
we
know
that
we
still
got
improvement
and
and
with
different
staff
members
managing
different
projects
and
administrative
staff.
Turning
over.
It
is
a
challenge
to
make
sure
that,
with
all
of
the
different
pages
we
have
that
are
committed
to
communicating
about
projects
to
make
sure
that
that's
being
done
consistently.
F
So
that's
our
website
project
pages
and
I
did
speak
a
little
bit
about
the
website
in
general
next
slide.
Please
now
we'll
talk
about
our
engagement
hub,
so
some
things
we
currently
have
in
place
that
are
available
to
all
is
that
we've
got
base
level
translation
built
in
to
our
engagement
hub
through
that
hub.
We
have
the
opportunity
to
engage
by
phone
or
online.
So
again,
these
are
department
level
engagements
that
we're
talking
about,
so
it
might
be
a
project
where
we're
seeking
a
public
input,
a
community
meeting,
so
those
those
opportunities
exist.
F
Then
we've
also
got
the
alt
text
for
images
for
people
with
visual
impairments
areas
where
we
know
that
we've
got
a
system
in
place.
That
needs
to
be
addressed,
for
consistency
is
in
this
area
of
being
very
clear
about
what
the
decision
to
be
made
is
for
the
engagement
who
will
make
the
final
decision
and
then
us
reporting
back
how
the
input
informed
the
decision
that
was
made.
So
again.
F
These
are
project
level
engagements
that
we're
talking
about
we
we
know,
we've
got
an
opportunity
to
be
more
accessible
to
our
community
when
we
have
this
rhythm
that
they
can
understand
that
they
see
across
every
single
department
and
how
we
communicate
about
the
decisions
to
be
made.
F
F
So
next
slide
social
media.
That's
another
important
tool
that
we
use
to
engage
or
inform
at
the
very
least,
our
community
within
our
communication
portfolio,
as
we
shared
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
presentation.
Our
goal
is
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
multiple
platforms
so
that
we
can
meet
people
where
they
are.
We
know
people
are
on
social
media,
and
so
we
want
to
do
our
best
to
communicate
information
and
then
provide
links
for
folks
to
come
back
to
any
of
our
online
engagement
and
participate
in
that
project
level.
F
Community
engagement
next
slide
all
right,
so
we're
moving
out
of
the
technology
world
with
how
we
engage
and
and
provide
access
to
both
staff
and
decision
making
this
again
at
the
department
level
we're
moving
into
the
in
person.
So
we
really
do
believe
that
we
as
an
organization
that
relationships
are
where
we
can
have
our
greatest
impact
in
our
community
and
managing
those
relationships
and
sustaining
them
are
really
important.
So
in
person,
neighborhood
and
community
meetings
are
another
way
where
we
provide
accessibility
to
both
staff
and
decision
making.
F
So
we
currently
have
a
practice
in
place.
This
is
pre-covered
it's
hard
to
remember
the
world
before
covid,
but
our
standard
operating
procedure
that
was
in
place
was
that
when
we
have
an
in-person,
city-wide
city-sponsored
meeting,
we
will
automatically
provide
spanish
interpretation
and
child
care
services,
and
that
speaks
to
some
of
the
challenges
that
we
know.
F
People
experience
in
being
able
to
participate
in
government,
those
being
child
care,
transportation,
different
work
hour
schedules
that
might
limit
people's
ability
to
participate
and
say
a
five
o'clock
meeting
or
a
noon
meeting
recognizing
that
those
barriers
are
in
place
for
some
that
standard
operating
procedure
was
was
put
into
place.
So
in
the
area
of
we've,
got
a
system
in
place
and
it
needs
some
more
work.
F
We
are
exploring
options
for
hybrid
meeting
opportunities
to
broaden
community
reach
and
again
that's
for
project
based
meetings,
community
meetings
that
we're
talking
about
there
again
that's
to
provide
more
access
through
phone.
If
folks
have
a
bearer
of
technology
and
or
any
of
those
barriers
to
participating
in
person,
we
we
have.
We
have
contracts
in
place
to
provide
translated
materials
and-
and
I
would
say
that,
as
an
organization
we've,
we've
still
got
opportunities
to
just
put
that
into
a
standard
practice.
F
So
it
looks
the
same
across
every
department,
whether
that's
defining
a
threshold
when
that
must
be
done
or
if
it's
through
the
development
of
a
communication
and
engagement
plan
where
we've
identified
the
need
for
those
materials.
We
know,
we've
got
some
more
work
to
figure
out
exactly
how
to
execute
that
across
all
departments
for
our
community
and
then
another
area
is
the
consistent
formatting
and
outreach
for
planned,
neighborhood,
community
and
community
meetings.
F
So
right
now,
that's
all
led
by
the
development
of
a
communication
and
engagement
plan,
communication
and
public
engagement
staff
do
that
in
partnership
with
the
park,
the
departments
that
they
serve.
So
what
that
looks
like
in
practice
would
be
sitting
down
with
the
project
manager
or
project
sponsor
and
working
through.
F
Again,
that's
really
important
for
that
piece
for
being
able
to
report
back
to
our
community
on
what
decisions
were
made
and
how
they
were
arrived
and
how
the
input
that
our
community
took
the
time
to
give
was
how
it
informed,
whatever
that
final
decision
is
so
that
documentation
is
for
on
the
outcome.
Level
is
an
area
where,
where
we've
identified,
we
need
some
work
and
will
require
a
longer
term
solution.
F
All
right
next
slide,
virtual
neighborhood
and
community
meetings,
so
so
we're
moving
from
in
person
to
virtual
we've
got.
We've
had
a
lot
of
practice
with
virtual
meetings
for
england
right
now,
thanks
to
kovit,
I
guess,
if
anything,
there's
a
silver
lining
to
this
madness
that
we've
been
in
these
last
two
and
a
half
years
with
virtual
meetings.
Again,
this
is
at
the
neighborhood
and
community
meeting
level.
F
F
F
So
we
do
have
some
high
level
translation
that
goes
on
in
the
back
end
of
our
public
input
platform
and
and
through
that,
we
do
have
the
opportunity
to
take
that
and
then
actually
it's
machine
done
so
then
to
be
able
to
give
that
to
an
actual
individual
to
read
through
and
make
sure
that
the
artificial
intelligence
that
was
used
to
translate
that
and
provide
a
copy
of
what
was
shared
is
something
that
that
we
can
take
advantage
of
in
the
short
to
midterm.
F
Again.
Hybrid
meetings
offer
the
opportunities
to
broaden
community
reach
so
explore.
We
we've
done
a
base
level
exploration
of
hybrid
meetings.
We
know
that
they
are
the
most.
They
are
the
most
labor
intensive
to
produce.
F
There
are
things
with
hybrid
meetings
that
well,
if
they
require
more
staff,
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
the
right
technology
in
place
so
that
we
don't
inadvertently
negatively
impact
accessibility
by
people
not
being
able
to
hear
if
we
don't
have
good
av
equipment
or
the
sound
quality
is
not
well
enough,
so
that
it
can
be
translated.
Those
types
of
things
so
and
moving
into
the
challenges
that
we
we
know,
exist
and
will
be
longer
term
solutions.
F
Sign
language
interpretation
is
an
area
where,
where
we
know
that
we
are
not
meeting
the
mark-
and
it's
certainly
something
that
we
have
looked
into
and
are
looking
at
ways
to
be
able
to
incorporate
that
into
our
overall
engagement
program
and
then
these
last
two
or
two
that
I've
already
shared,
and
you
can
see
that
they're
kind
of
ever
present
through
all
of
the
different
mediums,
and
that
is
that
we
we've
got
to
address
our
supporting
materials
being
in
pdf
format
and
the
challenges
we
experience
with.
The
decentralized
approach
to
posting
meeting
materials
next
slide.
F
All
right,
then
back
to
the
relationship.
So
we
talked
about
meetings,
and
now
I
just
wanted
to
bring
to
the
conversation
that
there
are
lots
of
connections
that
just
happen
between
community
members
and
staff.
That's
another
way
that
the
city
of
asheville
is
honoring.
Its
commitment
to
accessibility,
and
so
I
named
just
a
few
these
by
no
means
are
all
of
the
ways
that
we
connect
with
community
and
open
that
door.
F
For
that
two-way
conversation
between
staff
in
the
community,
but
that
they
are
some
and
that's
through
our
neighborhood
services
division,
that's
a
division
within
cape
communication
and
public
engagement,
again
working
with
all
departments,
but
that
person
being
a
resource.
That's
out
there
every
single
day
we've
got
our
planner
of
the
day,
which
is
a
resources
in
our
planning
and
urban
design
department
where
the
community
can
connect
and
talk
with
a
planner.
F
There
are
many
stakeholder
groups
that
many
departments
maintain
relationships
with.
I
couldn't
even
begin
to
name
all
of
them,
but
based
on
the
type
of
work
that
they
do
there
are.
There
are
groups
that
staff
regularly
reaches
out
to
to
either
invite
into
conversations
or
to
hear
feedback
where
that
two-way
flow
of
information
is
maintained,
and
then,
finally,
we
have
our
community
meetings.
F
So
while
we
have
these
resources
in
place,
note
here
again
in
yellow
is
this
area
where
we
have
an
we
have
a
process
in
place
and
that
process
could
use
some
work
so
that
we're
more
consistent
and
that's
reporting
back
on
those
decisions
and
actions
that
come
out
of
meetings
and
community
conversations
next
slide.
F
Okay,
so
that
was
department
level
access
points
it's
by
no
means
every
single
way
that
there
are
opportunities
to
engage,
but
it's
a
high
level
overview
of
some
of
the
ones
we're
working
through
every
day.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
about
any
of
those.
G
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
and
attention
on
this
dawah.
I
just
wanted
to
say,
after
years
of
attending
meetings
with
many
neighbors
and
friends
and
serving
on
boards
and
commissions
myself,
I
served
with
four
members
of
our
community
on
the
transit
committee
that
we're
blind
and
vision
impaired
and
I
think
about
when
accessibility
movement
says
nothing
about
us
without
us
is
for
us.
I
see
some
of
the
concerns
that
have
been
brought
up
addressed
here
and
that's
great,
because
that
means
that
we're
hearing
and
we're
responding.
G
G
F
Thank
you
councilmember
for
that.
For
that
question,
one
way
people
can
make
sure
that
their
challenge
is
her
is
recorded
and
heard.
Is
there
is
a
email
address
at
the
bottom
of
the
city's
web
page
if
you
scroll,
although
if,
if
any
community
community
member
scrolls
all
the
way
down
to
the
bottom
of
that
page
under
accessibility,
there
is
a
link
to
an
email
address
one.
This
one
is
for
actually
brad
stein
who's.
F
Our
ada
title
ii
coordinator
that
that's
one
access
point,
there's
also
an
email
address
for
the
website
manager
on
the
bottom
of
that
web
page
so
emailing.
That
would
also
create
a
record
and
then,
as
we
continue
to
improve
and
report
back,
you
know
how
issues
have
been
addressed
or
where
they
might
be
in
the
queue
for
being
addressed,
because
we
all
know
that
we
are
limited
by
staff,
resources
and
financial
resources.
So
all
of
those
things
are
taken
into
consideration
as
priorities
are
identified
for
each
for
each
fiscal
year.
F
But
I
think
that
having
a
record
of
that
is,
is
certainly
going
to
be
a
really
important
piece
of
us
being
able
to
be
accountable
to
our
community
when
challenges
are
identified.
So
those
are
two
ways,
certainly
if
it
is
if,
if
the
accessibility
issue
is
in
the
area
of
a
community
meeting
calling
or
emailing
our
neighborhood
services,
division
is
a
great
opportunity
and
that's
just
neighborhoods
ashevillenc.gov
again,
it's
recorded
if
that
happens,
and
I'm
certainly
happy
to
take
any
phone
call
anytime.
G
Thank
you
dawa.
I
appreciate
that,
so
I
wonder
what
it
might
look
like
if,
in
order
to
not
get
a
scattered
response,
what
could
it
look
like
to
have
one
of
those
emails
sort
of
like
neighborhoods
at
for
an
engagement
at?
Maybe
we
already
have
one
so
that
no
matter
who
the
person
is,
we
have
a
consistent
flow
of
information.
Does
that
already
exist?
G
F
We
don't
have
an
engage,
it's
not
specifically
an
engagement
at
ashevillenc.gov,
but
but
the
example
you
gave,
and-
and
this
is
something
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
a
little
bit
later
in
the
presentation
and
I'm
happy
to
bring
it
up
here,
recognizing
right
that
the
scatter,
the
scattered
responses,
makes
it
really
hard
for
us
to
understand
and
track
everything
that
we've
heard.
F
So
knowing
that
that
is
a
challenge
is
something
that
we
heard
through
the
city's
efforts
to
reimagine
public
safety,
and
it
is
also
something
that
was
identified
in
the
equity
assessment
as
an
area
that
needs
to
approved
improvement
and
so
based
off
of
those
two
things
in
council's
priority
of
reimagining
public
safety.
This
year.
One
of
the
big
important
goals
that
our
department
has
committed
to
is
the
creation
of
an
engagement
stakeholder
database.
So
that's
a
project.
F
That's
been,
we've
been
working
through
this
fiscal
year,
it
at
least
the
first
iteration
of
it
will
be
completed
by
june
30th.
And
it's
trying
to
speak
to
just
what
you're
saying.
How
do
we
take
all
of
the
incoming
and
funnel
it
into
one
system
that
is
accessible
to
all
staff?
F
That's
one
facet
of
this
project,
so
so,
if
some,
what
it
would
look
like
in
practice
is
if
something
is
tagged
as
engagement
within
that
system,
then
anybody
it
could
be
me.
It
could
be
somebody
in
community
and
economic
development.
They
could
go
in
and
see
what
those
challenges
are,
and
it's
not
just
living
in
one
person's
email
box.
G
Okay
and
then
I'm
thinking
about
the
number
of
times
that
I've
heard
someone
express
a
lack
of
access
to
handicapped
parking
or
being
able
to
walk
into
a
room
and
have
a
chair
that
they
can
sit
in.
G
I'm
thinking
about
just
infrastructure,
there's
a
lot
of
attention
departmentally
on
the
websites,
but
I'm
I
think
we
might
be
missing
an
opportunity
to
look
at
the
infrastructure
of
a
public
meeting.
What
happens
when
someone
is
trying
to
attend
a
meeting,
but
the
closest
bus
stop
is
more
than
a
quarter
mile
away.
I've
seen
us
do
shuttles,
sometimes
not
all
the
time.
What?
G
So
that
just
seems
like
one
bucket,
that
of
us
a
whole
slide
that
might
be
missing
if
we're
looking
at
this
and
missing
the
infrastructure
and
then,
lastly,
in
this
departmental
part,
I
was
thinking
about
starting
with
that
place,
where
we
can
be
consistent
and
one
of
the
big
ones
seems
to
be
documents.
G
So
it's
not
copy
and
pastable.
It
is
not
accessible
for
translation.
The
people
on
the
other
side
of
the
room
couldn't
see
it.
So
then
you've
got
all
these
arms
go
up
in
the
air
and
everyone's
taking
pictures,
and
some
people
are
typing
out
the
language
to
try
to
send
the
information
to
people
in
the
room.
F
F
All
right,
no
other
questions
and
I
will
move
along
all
right,
so
access
at
the
board
and
commission
level.
I
I
do
have
just
want
to
note
that
I've
got
sarah
gross
on
the
phone
call.
If
there's
any
detailed
questions
that
anybody
has
about
this
portion
of
it,
but
we're
going
to
move
from
kind
of
the
department
level,
access
to
information
to
the
beginning
of
the
policy
making
access
to
information
and
we're
going
to
start
at
the
board
and
commission
level.
So
next
slide,
please
all
right!
F
So
virtual
meetings
we're
going
to
follow
the
same
format
as
before.
Coven
again
has
given
us
this
opportunity,
along
with
many
other
challenges,
but
we'll
start
first
with
the
opportunities-
and
that
is
things
you've
heard
before
streaming
allows
for
translation,
and
it
mitigates
common
barriers
to
participation
such
as
transportation,
child
care
and
non-traditional
work
hours
and
then
again,
there's
that
opportunity
to
engage
through
email
and
phone.
F
So
that
could
even
be
you
know,
ahead
of
a
meeting
leaving
a
voicemail
I
didn't
mention
that
before,
but
that
isn't
an
important
opportunity
that
folks
have
and
and
the
ability
to
email,
a
counsel
or
board
and
board
chairs
and
boards,
so
that
they've
got
that
information
ahead
of
their
meeting
areas
where
we
know
that
there
are
challenges
again.
You
all
have
seen
these,
but
they
are
sign
language
interpretation
links
to
supporting
materials
being
in
pdf
format.
F
That's
the
challenge
that
they're
in
pdf
format
and
then
that
decentralized
approach
to
posting
meeting
materials-
and
I
will
say
so
where
we
have
this
it's
the
similar
challenge
and
and
that
decentralized
approach,
and
that
we've
got
so
many
different
people
that
are
posting
information
and
they're
not
doing
it
frequently
sometimes
some
of
the
standard
operating
procedure
and
that
consistency
can
be
negatively
impacted
next
slide.
F
An
opportunity
that
that
we
are
aware
of-
and
we
have,
the
resources
to
correct
right
now
would
be
with
how
the
meeting
the
meeting
schedules
are
coordinated.
We
know
that
there's
an
opportunity
to
better
integrate
that
information
with
other
calendars
that
we
have
on
the
website.
So
you
can
absolutely
go
to
every
board
and
commission
page
and
see
when
that
board
and
commission
meets,
and
there
are
how
many
sarah.
F
Okay,
so
we
we
know
that
they
are
30
plus.
So
that's
a
lot
of
clicks
to
try
to
figure
out
when
you
know
a
certain
border
commission
meeting
is
scheduled
and
then
trying
to
understand
which
board
or
commission
might
have.
The
information
that
you're
interested
in
is
is
another
challenge
that
that
we
also
experience
but
but
to
be
able
to
go
to
the
front
page
of
the
website
and
within
two
clicks
be
able
to
get
to
when
any
border
commission
is
meeting
is,
is
what
we
are
we're
looking
into
right
now.
F
Longer
term
challenges
are
the
same,
supporting
materials
being
in
pdf
format,
and
then
the
decentralized
approach
for
the
information
that
is
posted
on
those
pages
definitely
presents
challenge
all
right
next
slide.
That
may
be
it
for
boards
and
commissions,
okay,
I'll
pause
there.
Anybody
have
any
questions
for
boards
and
commissions.
G
D
D
So,
for
example,
you
know
if,
if
the
particular
body
has
a
a
rule
or
a
you
know,
whatever
you
call
it
of
like
public
comment
is
limited
to
an
hour.
So
how?
How
does
one
decide
well,
do
you
give
priority
to
somebody
who
came
to
the
meeting,
or
do
you
give
priority
to
someone
who
calls
in
and
and
how
is
that
kind
of
thing
considered
or
thought
about.
F
Thank
you
thank
you
for
that
question
and
it
really
speaks
to
why
we
think
that
it's
important
to
explore
hybrid
meetings
at
the
community
meeting
level
first
there
are.
There
are
lots
of
questions
that
need
to
be
answered
before
we
would
recommend
or
advise
implementing
that
at
a
policy
making
level
and
that's
not
to
say
that
community
meetings
aren't
important.
F
They
just
tend
not
to
have
as
many
restraints
as
a
formal.
You
know
board
commission,
council
committee,
council
meeting
and
and
we've
got
more
opportunity
to
hear
and
learn
and
address
those
needs
before
we
take
it
to
that
next
level.
So,
in
short,
the
answer
is,
I
don't
know
yet,
but
it
is
definitely
something
that
should
be
explored
and
and
considered
in
a
thoughtful
way
before
we
would
take
it
to
an
area
where
there
might
be
some
kind
of
council
action
associated
with
it.
F
Literally,
what
would
it
look
like?
I?
I
would
imagine
that
it
would
be
part
of
our
part
of
our
assessment
that
we
do
as
we
learn
at
the
community
meeting
level
and
certainly
done
in
partnership
with
our
equity
and
inclusion
department
and
reaching
out.
I
feel
confident
in
saying
this
that
we
would
reach
out
to
groups
that
have
been
identified
as
being
missing
from
conversations
and
or
who
we
know
have
identified
barriers
to
participation
being
very
intentional
about
reaching
out
to
them
and
getting
their
input
as
we
come
up
with
the
recommendation.
D
Thank
you.
So
am
I
jumping
the
gun
dawah
to
talk
about
the
the
outreach
database
that
cape
is
working
on?
I
might
am
I
jumping
the
gun
a
little
bit
or
you
can
talk
about
that
later
or.
F
No,
I'm
I'm
happy
to
talk
about
it.
Now,
I'm
a
big
fan
of
momentum
right
and
and
rather
than
being,
you
know,
theoretical
and
all
of
all
of
this
to
show
examples,
and
this
would
be
an
example.
So
earlier
I
talked
about
one
facet
of
the
engagement
database
project
being
staff's
ability
to
go
see
what
people
have
heard
or
have
said
right
and
that's
where
things
are
tagged
and
any
staff
member
can
see
what
community
has
said
about
different
issues.
It
could
be
accessibility,
it
could
be
about
greenways.
It
could
be
about
many
things.
F
The
other
facet
of
this
project
is
the
stakeholder
database
portion
of
the
project,
and
that
is
where
we
will
have
the
opportunity
to
invite
the
community
in
to
tell
us
what
they
want
to
hear
more
about
what
they're
interested
in
and
I
won't
get
too.
F
The
beginnings
of
it
is
that
folks
could
sign
up
and
self-identify
with
any
way
that
they
identify.
So
it
could
be
age,
it
could
be
race,
it
could
be
what
they're
interested
in
and
then
we
will
and
that
will,
on
the
back
end
of
the
system,
connect
them
to
different
distribution
groups.
So
if
we
have
a
if
we
have
a
decision
to
be
made,
maybe
it's
a
project
decision,
and
we
know
that
one
of
the
groups
that
will
be
most
impacted
will
be
people
with
visual
impairments.
F
F
If
you
will
to
to
get
information
about
these
things,
and
then
that
gives
us
the
ability
to
go
out
and
do
better
outreach
and
make
sure
that
we're
as
inclusive
as
we
can
for
all
of
the
different
groups
that
we
may
want
to
reach
in
any
given
issue.
Is
that
enough
detail
about
that
piece
of
the
database?
For
this
question.
G
F
Happy
to
happy
to
and
again
we
are
very
early
in
in
that
process
and
there
will
certainly
be
much
more.
There
will
be
a
marketing
campaign
around
it
and
and
I'm
happy
to
give
updates
to
council
on
where
we
are
with
that
project
as
it
as
it
continues
to
to
evolve.
But
I
I
will
say
that
june
30th
is
the
date
that
we
have
put
in
place
to
have
this
first
iteration.
We
imagine
there
will
be
things
that
we
will
learn
along
the
way
and
we'll
want
to
keep
improving
it
and
updating
it.
D
And
darwin,
we
anticipate
that
this
will
be
a
lot
more
robust.
I
mean
right
now
you
can
sign
up
to
say
I
want.
I
want
notifications
of
all
the
meetings
about
hcd
or
you
know,
whatever
it'll
be
a
lot
more
robust
than
that
that
I
can't
even
remember
what
we
call
that
list.
D
But
you
know
it
will
not
only
include
individuals,
but
it
will
include
organizations
that
have
said
that
they
are
interested
in
a
particular
issue,
etc,
or
even
have
expertise
that
we
that
the
city
can
reach
out
to
and
and
say
you
know.
We
know
that
you're
very
knowledgeable
about
this,
and
can
you
lend
a
hand,
lend
your
expertise
to
a
particular
issue?
Is
that.
F
Correct,
but
it
that
is
correct,
that
is
correct.
That
is
correct
and
again
we're
still
there.
There
are.
We
expect
that
there
will
be
more
honestly
that
facet
of
it
really
came
up
through
the
boards
and
commission
focus
groups
as
that
that
effort
is
underway,
and
we
identify
that
as
an
opportunity,
and
we
expect
that,
as
as
things
continue
to
move
forward,
that
we're
just
going
to
keep
hearing
more
opportunities
and
be
able
to
integrate
all
of
these
things,
so
that
that
all
staff
can
be
working
in
a
more
inclusive
way.
F
Instead
of
one
person
having
a
distribution
list
through
their
email,
then
they
leave
the
organization.
Then
all
of
those
connections
and
contacts
are
gone
and
we're
starting
back
over
from
scratch.
So
this
is
really
about
creating
to
I
guess
it's
really
about
supporting
institutional
knowledge
and-
and
we
hope
that
it
will
address
some
of
the
fatigue.
We
have
certainly
heard
over
the
years
that
our
community
feels
with
respect
to
engagement
right.
F
So
if
you
said
something
at
a
meeting
about
transportation
that
had
to
do
with
parks,
we
don't
want
to
lose
that,
and
this
is
that
opportunity.
F
Sorry
I
switched
back
to
the
input
piece
of
it,
but
it's
related
here.
It's
really
all
about
not
losing
knowledge.
E
And
donald
really
quick,
if
I
may
getting
back
to
council
member
whistler's
earlier
question
regarding
how
would
we
handle
a
potential
scenario
where
you've
got
public
input
for
people
calling
in
versus
coming
in
person
to
the
meetings
we're?
Obviously
not
the
only
municipality
or
governmental
entity?
E
That's
dealing
with
this
issue
right
now,
so
we've
actually
got
jenna
and
jamie
on
our
team,
pulling
other
local
governments
across
the
state
on
how
they're
handling
that
issue
and
as
soon
as
that,
as
we
have
that
research
concluded
we'll
come
back
to
you
just
so
that
you
have
kind
of
an
environmental
scan
of
what's
happening
across
the
state.
In
this
space.
F
All
right,
fantastic
and
yes,
acro
across
the
state
and
across
the
country
there
there
was.
There
was
a
route
55
article
that
we
contributed
to
that
had
a
number
of
different
experiences
across
the
country
of
different
cities
and
how
they're
grappling
with
this
challenge
of
hybrid
meetings,
all
right
next
slide,
so
city
council
level,
now
we're
moving
into
the
city
council
level
of
access.
So
next
slide.
Please
all
right!
So
virtual
council
committee
meetings,
those
are-
and
this
was
pre-coveted.
F
F
It
mitigates
the
cut
some
of
that
some
of
the
common
barriers
to
participation
like
transportation,
child
care,
non-traditional
work
hours
and
then
again,
there's
the
opportunity
to
engage
through
email,
phone
and
phone
with
no
sign
up
for
public
comment,
so
that's
different
than
our
virtual
city
council
meetings.
This
is
related
to
city
council
committee
meetings,
areas
where
we
know
we
have
challenges,
sign
language,
interpretation
and
then
again
supporting
materials
being
in
pdf
formats.
F
Next
slide,
our
in-person
city
council
committee
meetings
are
were
again.
They
were
streamed
to
youtube
before
we
started
going
virtual
and
then
that
streaming
allows
for
translation.
So
that
was
an
accessibility
improvement
that
we
implemented
a
few
years
ago.
Challenges
sign
language
interpretation
and
supporting
materials
in
pdf
format.
F
Next
slide
virtual,
all
right.
So
now
we're
moving
into
virtual
city
council
meetings,
the
the
apex
of
the
the
most
critical
policy
decision,
making
meetings
that
we
have.
They
are
broadcast
to
our
government
television
station.
They
are
also
streamed
to
youtube
and
to
the
engagement
hub.
The
closed
caption
translation
is
available
through
the
stream.
F
The
virtual
meetings
mitigate
some
of
the
common
barriers
we
are
aware
of,
and
then
there
is
the
opportunity
to
engage
through
email
and
phone,
so
email
prior
to
the
meeting
phone
during
the
meeting
with
sign
up
required
challenges,
sign
language
interpretation
and
then
again
supporting
materials
being
in
pdf
format.
F
Next
slide:
okay
city
council
meetings
in
person.
They
are
also
broadcast
to
the
government
tv.
They
are
also
streamed
to
youtube,
which
allows
for
closed
caption
translation,
and
then
the
council
chamber
is
equipped
with
an
audio
induction
loop
for
people
with
hearing
impairment
challenges.
We
know
that
exist
are
that
we
don't
have
sign
language
interpretation
and
the
supporting
materials,
at
least
some
are
in
pdf
format.
F
Next
slide
all
right.
So
since
we
started
with
staff
and
operational
decision
making
and
moved
up
to
access
for
policy
decision
making
at
the
council
level,
I
thought
it
might
be
helpful
to
share
the
following
flow
chart
for
policy
decisions.
So,
of
course,
at
the
well.
Maybe
we'll
start
at
the
we'll
start
at
the
top,
so
elected
officials
are
established,
our
elected
officials
establish
city
policies
and
appoint
a
city
manager
to
oversee
the
day-to-day
operations.
F
The
city
manager
then
oversees
the
operations
through
city
staff,
then
from
our
city,
our
full
city
council.
We
have
council
committees
and
they
are
groups
of
three
members
of
the
city
council
and
they
review
policy.
Matters
referred
to
them
and
make
recommendations
to
the
full
council
for
adoption,
and
then
we've
got
advisory
report
advisory
boards,
that
fold
up
to
council
committees,
they're
created
by
city
council,
they're
residents
that
are
appointed
and
they
provide
input
on
the
policies
that
shape
their
government
and
our
city.
D
Thanks
noah,
so
just
to
I
mean
you
know,
this
is
kind
of
feels
a
little
bit
like
government
101,
which
is
great.
I
think
that's
important.
These
advisory
boards
to
clarify
are
to
advise
city
council.
They
are
not
to
advise
city
staff,
I
mean
they
are.
They
are
basically
created
by
city
council
and
for
city
council's
purpose.
To
basically,
you
know,
have
residents
who
are
experts
or
interested
or
whatever
in
a
particular
idea,
but
they
are
not
created
to
advise
staff
at
all
right.
F
Thanks,
yes,
that
that
that
is,
that
is
correct,
and
and
while
staff
support
board
and
commissions
as
far
as
posting
of
materials
in
a
decentralized
manner,
which
does
provide
challenges
for
consistency.
F
Working
groups
do
not
have
staff
that
are
appointed
to
support
them
in
that
way,
so
so
so
under
advisory
boards.
There
are
working
groups
that
are
created
by
boards
or
commissions
and
and
their
job
is
to
focus
on
a
specific
task
or
research.
So
those
working
groups
are
not
public
bodies
and
they
are
not
again
supported
by
staff.
F
All
right,
so
I
appreciate
that
opportunity.
I
do
know
it.
It's
definitely
government
101,
but
but
I
know
that
the
way
this
presentation
was
flowing,
we
were
talking
about
staff,
then
we
were
talking
about
boards
and
commissions,
and
then
we
were
talking
about
council.
I
thought
it
might
be
helpful
to
just
have
this
visual
to
for
our
watching
community
to
to
reflect
upon
all
right
next
slide
questions
there
before
we
move
into
the
next
section.
F
All
right,
I
don't
see
any
okay,
so
I
think
this
is.
This
is
the
good
stuff.
I
think
these
are
the
opportunities
for
continuous
improvement.
F
F
What's
the
timeline
we
know,
we've
got
some
room
for
growth
and
doing
that
consistently
across
the
board
same
with
the
framing
of
our
engagement
options
right
so
anytime,
we're
asking
for
community
and
put
what
we're
aiming
for
is
to
be
very
clear,
accessible,
accessibility
through
clear
language
and
what
naming?
What
the
decision
to
be
made
is
communicating
who
will
make
the
final
decision
and
then
reporting
back
how
the
input
that
we
received
from
the
community
informed
the
decision.
F
So
what
that
would
look
like
if
we
were
just
a
plus
would
be
that
any
any
of
our
public
engagement
efforts.
You
could
go
to
a
project
page
and
you
could
see
that
very
clearly
and
if
you
participated,
you
would
have
received
a
communication
sharing
that
information
with
you
after
the
decision
was
made
so
other
other
opportunities
that
are
in
place
that
need
some
attention.
F
If
we're
going
to
implement
would
be
the
options
for
hybrid
neighborhood
community
meetings
that
last
mile
translation
I
mentioned
earlier,
providing
translated
materials
consistently
at
a
certain
at
some
determined
threshold
or
through
some
determined
process,
consistent
formatting
and
outreach
for
planned,
neighborhood
and
community
meetings,
and
then
reporting
back
on
decisions
and
actions
from
community
meetings
and
community
conversations
and
then
again
commuting
for
communicating
the
board
and
commission
meeting
schedule.
That
was
that
calendar
opportunity
that
we
discussed
earlier
next
slide.
F
All
right
so
the
longer
ones
that
the
ones
that
are
that
that
kind
of
need
to
be
prioritized
and
scoped
out
as
a
project
from
beginning
to
end.
They
may
need
additional
resources.
That's
why
they're
in
this
category,
so
one
is
consistently
providing
supporting
materials
in
a
searchable
and
accessible
format,
all
the
time
addressing
this
decentralized
approach
to
posting
materials,
and
that
is
both
project
based
at
the
department
level
and
board
and
commission
based
providing
consistent
documentation
of
neighborhood
and
community
meeting
outcomes
and
then
making
sign
language
interpretation
available
next
slide,
all
right.
F
G
Is
kim
I
have
a
few
so
davao
when
we
had
an
opportunity
to
meet
the
last
week
of
the
year
with
staff
and
community
partners.
G
I
had
originally
asked
for
this
agenda
item
for
the
governance
committee
so
that
we
could
start
a
conversation
around
improving
our
public
meeting
process
and
our
document
accessibility,
and
I'm
so
appreciative
of
the
way
that
you
have
laid
this
out
in
a
way
that
we
can
come
back
to
it
and
say
here
are
the
things
that
we've
learned
from
here
are
the
things
that
we're
doing
better
at.
We
still
need
to
work
on
these
and
we
learn
new
things,
we're
going
to
add
to
it,
so
that
is
just
brilliant.
Thank
you.
G
I
also
feel
that,
ironically,
we
have
created
a
barrier
in
this
meeting
by
not
inviting
our
community
partners
to
present.
So,
for
example,
if
we
were
working
on
an
affordable
housing
development
with
a
developer
of
land,
we
would
be
hearing
a
presentation
about
that
development
from
the
person
who
developed
it
and
through
years
of
public
engagement
and
input
years
of
lived
and
professional
experience
about
how
this
could
be
better.
G
I
hear
a
lot
of
folks
come
in
public
comment
that
have
ideas
or
concerns,
but
the
majority
of
their
engagement
is
around
how
hard
it
was
to
engage
or
the
process
of
that
engagement.
And
so
I'm
curious
before
we
make
a
policy
recommendation
to
the
full
council
and
continue
this
conversation,
how
we
can
bring
those
policy
developers
to
the
table,
and
so
other
folks
can
add
to
it.
G
Just
like
we
can
kind
of
sync
up
our
lists
of
things
that
we're
doing
well
things
we
can
do
better
and
see
if
those
some
of
those
match
and
we
might
be
missing
things
so
once
again,
nothing
about
us
without
us
is
for
us.
If
we
try
to
develop
this
policy
any
further
without
the
people
who
are
having
the
issue
and
presenting
the
solutions,
then
it's
we're
doing
a
disservice
to
ourselves
in
the
community,
in
my
opinion,
so
I
for
one
would
love
to
hear
a
follow-up
conversation
about
this.
B
That
was
assumed,
probably
more
directed
at
committee
members
and
it's
true.
We
do
have
groups
volunteer
groups
in
the
community
that
at
times
put
together
fantastic
presentations
that
they
would
like
to
provide
to
council
and
they
either
send
them
to
us
by
email
or
do
very
creative
sequence.
Presentations
during
the
public
comment
period
or
ask
to
meet
with
us
individually
to
talk
about
whatever
it
is.
Their
recommendations
are
and
dawa.
B
If
your
group's
going
to
be
looking
kind
of
holistically
about
you
know
how
to
to
incorporate
or
have
some
kind
of
platform
for
folks
that
have
gone
to
great
lengths
to
put
together
in-depth
pieces
of
information
that
don't
fit
neatly
into
three
minutes,
you
know,
I
think,
that's.
B
You
know,
and
I
think
I
think
we
struggle
with
how
to
balance
the
job
and
role
of
the
elected
officials
with
the
staff
and
moving
things
through
our
committee
subcommittee
process
and
on
eventually
on
to
council
and
making,
and
you
know,
meeting
the
literal
statutory
requirements,
but
then
also
meaningfully
incorporate
public
input
into
our
process
without
crushing
it.
You
know
you
don't
want
to
create
a
system
where
you
can't,
then
you
know
it's
so
overburdened.
B
You
can't
move
it
forward
and
I,
I
know
we're
kind
of
trying
to
figure
that
out
we're
really
lucky
in
that.
We
have
a
lot
of
folks
in
the
community
that
want
to
participate.
So
that's
a
great
thing
and
we
have
to
figure
out
how
to
best
leverage
it.
You
know
I've
had
the
chance
to
talk
with
mayors
of
large
cities
across
the
state
about
how
they
are
handling
public
comment
and,
generally
speaking,
we're
incredibly
generous
compared
compared
to
that.
B
So
I
feel
like
we're
doing
something
right,
we're
obviously
not
you
know
we're
obviously
continuing
to
do
better,
but
you
know
I
I
know.
For
example,
the
city
of
charlotte
only
allows
public
input
once
a
month,
even
though
they
meet
several
times
a
month.
B
I
know
that
the
city
of
winston-salem,
prioritizes
city
residents
and
and
doesn't
bring
in
from
what
I
understand
speakers
from
outside
the
city
anyway,
so
time
limitations,
geographic
limitations,
things
like
that
and
we're
trying
not
to
operate
in
that
space,
but
we're
also
trying
to
continue
to
make
it
available
for
as
many
people
as
possible
and
continuing
to
make
the
wheels
turn
so
to
speak.
G
So
could
I
receive
a
yes
or
no,
I'm
okay
with
hearing
a
no,
I
just
think
that
we're
going
to
have
to
hear
something
because
the
email
threads
that
have
been
going
on
around
this
are
cyclical,
and
this
isn't
just
for
our
community
groups,
but
also
for
advisory
boards.
We
have
advisory
boards
in
the
past
who
have
made
presentations
to
counsel
in
our
live
meetings.
Are
we
going
to
be
able
to
go
back
to?
That
is
the
answer?
G
No,
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
I
feel
like
we
might
be,
just
as
you
know,
elected
as
putting
our
staff
in
a
tricky
spot
of
it
being
expected
to
respond
when
we
might
just
have
to
go
ahead
and
say,
there's
not
an
appetite
to
hear
a
presentation
on
the
tree,
canopy
the
stormwater
ordinance
or
a
policy
development
around
public
engagement.
Those
are
hard
conversations
to
have
around
resources
like
time,
but
I
do
think
that
that's
part
of
the
conversation
that
we
can
have
here.
G
Well,
we
could
start
with
hearing
a
presentation
from
policy
development
from
code
for
asheville
at
our
next
meeting
or
a
future
meeting
of
the
governance
committee.
But,
additionally,
I
am
inclined
to
ask
if
we
will
be
able
to
hear
advisory
board
presentations
at
future
council
meetings,
because
we
are
hearing
those
right
now
and
if,
for
example,
an
advisory
board,
we
had
18
advisory
boards
present
30
recommendations
to
council
in
writing
last
year.
What
does
it
look
like
if
one
of
them
were
to
request
a
presentation
to
counsel
with
urgent
information
say
before
a
retreat?
G
If
they
land
in
the
public
comment
period,
they
have
three
minutes
and
we're
not
meant
to
respond.
So
are
we
going
to
do
what
we've
done
in
the
past
and
allow
advisory
boards
to
present
the
council
during
the
meeting
as
an
agenda
item,
or
is
the
limitation
going
to
be
public
comment
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
D
I
think
technically
that
the
idea,
okay.
D
Okay,
sorry
well,
I
have
this
on
so
shouldn't
have
to
lean,
but
it's
my
understanding
that
the
annual
reports
that
boards
and
commissions
give
to
city
council
is
the
is
one
of
the
avenues
to
get
those
recommendations.
D
And
typically
we
discuss
those
recommendations
at
the
at
the
retreat
at
the
council
retreat
and
I've
specifically
asked
that
we
make
sure
that
is
added
to
that.
We
make
sure
that
that's
on
the
agenda
at
the
retreat.
D
Just
I
guess
to
echo
what
the
mayor
said
is
from
the
standpoint
of
envisioning,
that
between
now
and
the
retreat
that
we
would
have
30
advisory
boards
come
in
front
of
city
council
seems
burdensome,
given
that
they
will
have
an
opportunity
to
fill
out
annual
reports
and
present
those
recommendations
to
council
and
I'm
assuming
that
all
council
members
read
those
and
again
we'll
discuss
them
at
the
retreat.
G
B
Yeah,
I'm
not
I'm
not
necessarily
saying
I'm
agreeing
or
not
agreeing
to
that.
We
don't
have
a
written
policy
about
it
and
there
are
times
where
advisory
boards
have
made
presentations
under
the
presentation
portion
of
the
agenda.
I
don't
know
why
you'd
want
to
cut
off
that
opportunity
for
council
to
ask
for
that.
If
we
need
to
do
it,
we.
G
G
B
B
Forestry
commission
could
have
easily
presented.
There
are
definitely
times
where
we've
had
boards
and
commissions
present
under
presentations.
I
I
don't
know
why.
I
I
could
foresee
a
time
when
that
might
happen
again,
if
council
wanted
to
hear
a
presentation
from
a
board
or
commission
under
presentations.
G
So
it's
absolutely
not
my
intention
to
stop
having
an
opportunity
for
boards
and
commissions
and
advisory
boards
to
present
during
meetings,
but
it
is
my
intention
to
go
ahead
and
have
something
that
is
reliable
and
consistent
in
writing,
and
it
could
be
part
of
something
like
this
policy
or
any
time
that
someone
needs
to
give
a
presentation.
They
have
a
clear
pathway
to
do
that.
B
G
F
B
You're
just
giving
us
kind
of
a
status
update.
You
didn't
plan
you're,
not
planning
to
come
back
to
us
in
the
immediate
future.
F
B
You
are
you
going
to
come
forward
and
I
can't
recall-
and
I'm
sorry
are
you
going
to
be
coming
under
the
manager's
report.
B
B
I
think
I'm
trying
to
think
kim
when
you
could.
You
know,
I
think
you
could
speak
with
your
fellow
council
members
and
see
if
there's
an
interest
in
adopting
some
kind
of
formal
policy
about
when
and
how
we
hear
from
boards
and
commissions
other
than
the
system
we've
been
using
for
the
last
many
years,
or
I
mean
also
in
a
parallel
way.
There's
this
conversation
having
we're
having
right
now
about.
E
And
mayor,
if
I
may,
we
do
have
the
retreat
coming
up
in
march,
where
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
priorities
both
current
year
priorities,
as
well
as
what
you
you,
all
as
a
governing
body,
want
staff
to
focus
on
for
the
next
year,
so
that
would
be
an
opportunity
as
we're
talking
about
our
priorities
across
the
organization,
to
provide
some
specific
feedback
on.
Do
you
want
staff,
focusing
specifically
on
the
drafting
of
a
policy
to
dallas
point?
Today's
presentation
was
really
more
from
that
operational
lens.
This
is
what
we're
doing.
E
B
G
Once
again,
I'll
just
say
thank
you
for
outlining
this
so
clearly,
so
that
we
can
sort
of
like
benchmark
the
seasons,
not
unlike
we
do
with
basketball
season,
which
is
coming
up
around
march.
Madness,
maybe
we'll
see
years
in
the
future
of
us
gaining
some
wins
on
this
ground.
F
And
I
will
say
that
on
that
operational
end,
we're
back
to
how
the
presentation
was
formatted,
and
it
was
intentional
on
that
department
level
there
there
are
opportunities
for
engagement
for
stakeholder
groups
for
folks
that
are
interested
in
certain
aspects
of
what
we
do
and-
and
I
will
speak
for
my
department.
I
I'm
happy
to
connect
with
anyone.
That's
got
ideas
about
how
we
can
improve
and
and
we
we
will
we'll
do
what
we
can.
F
If
it's
something
in
the
short
term
and
then,
if
it
is
something,
that's
bigger,
requires
more
resources,
then
we've
got
our
as
miss
wood.
Just
shared
we've
got
our
annual
kind
of
prioritization
process
and
and
kind
of
learning.
What
some
of
the
higher
priorities
would
be
is
always
helpful,
so
that
invitation
is
there
at
the
staff
level.
B
H
H
H
H
H
The
mayor
has
stated
that
we
can
present
during
public
comment,
but
that
format
will
not
work
for
this
proposal.
Three
minutes
is
insufficient
time
to
present
this
information,
and
a
presentation
during
public
comment
does
not
allow
for
appropriate
discussion
and
feedback
from
council
and
staff
if
our
proposal
lacks
support.
I
request
that
committee
members
provide
specific
feedback
so
that
we
may
determine
an
appropriate
path
forward.
H
H
If
the
city
of
asheville
is
truly
committed
to
inclusive
participation
in
government,
then
we
need
to
center
those
most
impacted
members
of
the
public.
I
will
repeat
our
current
ask
for
clarity.
We
are
seeking
the
opportunity
to
present
the
open,
medians
policy
as
a
formal
agenda
item
at
the
march
meeting
of
the
governance
committee.
Thank
you.
I
Oh
thanks
y'all.
This
is
david
greenson
from
montford,
and
I
appreciate
the
presentation
today
and
the
discussion.
I
I'm
glad
that
y'all
are
really
thinking
about
these
accessibility
issues.
I
want
to
raise
one
thing
that
I
just
didn't
feel
like
was
covered
in
what
you
are
working
on
which
which
pertains
to
to
my
work
every
week.
So
I
appreciate
the
the
attention
to
the
support
materials
being
in
a
more
accessible
format.
I
I'd
like
to
talk
about
how
how
much
more
accessibility
would
be
enhanced
if
those
materials
can
be
made
available
sooner
so
my
work.
These
days
is
primarily
with
the
the
government
accountability
project
gapabl.org
and
what
we
try
to
do
is
just
break
down
what's
happening
in
city
and
county
government
week
to
week.
I
You
know
what
are
the
things
that
people
should
pay
attention
to
specifically
if
they
want
to
try
to
have
influence,
try
to
make
public
comment
and
and
the
windows
for
for
engaging
people
around
these
things
are
just
so
narrow
that
it's
it's
really
hard.
So
I'll
give
you
a
for
instance,
on
the
weeks
before
city
council
meets.
I
As
you
all
know,
I
have
a
team
of
volunteers
that
is
waiting
with
baited
breath
for
maggie's
email,
but
the
agenda
is
out
and
then
they
they
dive
in
and
they
try
to
analyze
the
things
that
are
happening
and
you
know
try
to
discern
which
are
the
most
important
things
which
are
things
community
members
are
really
going
to
want
to
know
about,
so
they
can
take
action
on
and
you
know
they
work
through
the
weekend.
I
We
want
to
try
to
be
diligent
and
make
sure
we're
getting
good
information
and
if
we're
lucky,
you
know
we
get
we
get.
Maybe
we
can
get
an
email
out
on
monday
evenings
telling
people
here's
what's
going
to
happen
tomorrow,
when
of
course,
it's
really
almost
too
late
to
sign
up
for
public
coming.
We
don't
even
ask
people
anymore
to
send
a
public
comment,
because
if
our
email
comes
out
at
eight
o'clock
at
night,
they're-
probably
not
going
to
see
it
until
after
the
9
a.m
deadline.
I
So
I
know
that
you
know
the
county
commission
honestly
they're
a
little
better
than
you
y'all
and
so
far
as
their
agendas
come
out
on
wednesday.
Instead
of
friday-
and
I
know
with
with
boards
and
commissions-
you
know
it's
all
over
the
place
as
dial
was
talking
about
in
terms
of
the
inconsistency
around
material
sharing,
I
just
I,
it
would
make
a
huge
difference
in
terms
of
our
being
able
to
to
responsibly
alert
the
public
around.
What's
coming
down
the
pike
that
they
might
want
to
really
have
influence
on.
I
If
there
was
a
little
more
lead
time,
because
it's
just
so
hard,
I'm
just
frankly
kind
of
tired
of
the
late
nights
on
fridays
and
mondays
trying
to
to
pull
together
this
report
and
not
do
a
disservice
to
you
all
or
to
the
public
in
terms
of
misconstruing
things,
there's
a
lot
of
information
that
comes
out
and
if
it
could
come
out
earlier
boy,
it
would
make
my
life
easier
and
I
do
think
you'd
get
not
just
more
public
engagement,
but
but
better
public
engagement,
because
folks
will
be
better
informed.
I
It's
just
such
a
small
window
to
try
to
to
get
the
word
out
in
a
responsible
way.
So
that's
the
request.
Thank
you
all
for
for
all
that
you
do.
C
Hey
there,
this
is
grace
martinez.
I
really
appreciate
the
comments
of
the
two
previous
callers
and
would
like
to
second
both
what
they
said.
C
You
know,
I
really
love
about
our
community
that
we
have
a
highly
engaged
community.
That
cares
deeply
about
the
well-being
of
people
who
live
here
and
that's
something
I
really
value
about
living
here,
and
you
know
I've
definitely
expressed
this
before,
but
you
know
we,
as
we
know
this.
This
process
is
not
easy
to
participate
in,
and
I
really
appreciate
the
work
of
city
staff
in
trying
to
make
it.
C
You
know
an
easier
process,
but
I
do
have
concerns
as
it
relates
to
transparency
and
to
the
possibility
of
removing
possibilities
for
public
input
through
changing
any
of
these
or
eliminating
these
advisory
committees.
I
would
love
you
know,
I'm
not
the
most
informed
on
this
topic
and
I
would
love
to
hear
more
about
what
code
for
asheville
has
to
say,
because
it
sounds
like
they've
done
a
lot
of
work
around
this.
C
I
I
really
am
concerned
that
perhaps
the
idea
in
removing
public
input
is
related
to
the
idea
that
there
have
been
recommendations
that
have
been
made
by
these
advisory
committees
that
are
not
being
followed
through
with
city
council.
C
I'm
thinking
specifically
about
the
recommendation
to
follow
the
cdc
guidelines,
not
to
remove
encampments
and,
as
we
know,
we
actually
have
a
policy
change.
That's
not
in
writing,
as
the
city
council
or
as
a
citizen
times
covered
yesterday,
and
so
we're
having
a
lot
of
changes
happening
in
our
community,
and
I
think
it's
more
important
than
it's
ever
been
to
hear
our
community
and
then
to
actually
follow
through
with
the
recommendations
of
what
folks
are
saying
in
our
community.
C
As
far
as
going
back
to
in-person
meetings,
I
really
look
forward
to
seeing
you
all
in
person,
but
also
I
have
the
hope
that
we
would
continue
to
have
an
option
for
virtual
engagement,
because
that
really
increases
accessibility.
I
think
the
sign
up
deadline
for
city
council
is
not
really
acceptable.
C
As
far
as
the
deadline
goes,
I
actually
missed
it
myself
after
having
a
death
in
the
family
so
for
tonight's
meeting
so
and
we
can
do
it
in
this
meeting
where
you
can
just
call
in
so
I
don't
see
why
we
couldn't
do
that
for
the
full
council
meeting.
C
Also,
I
don't
see
closed
captioning
being
available
on
this
video.
I
did
try
to
turn
that
on.
I
would
propose
that
we
don't
actually
have
a
limit
on
public
engagement,
as
we
saw
in
the
last
meeting.
There
were
lots
of
folks
who
wanted
to
participate,
and
I
really
appreciate
that
the
decision
was
made
to
allow
those
folks
to
comment.
C
B
Okay,
thank
you.
This
we've
reached
the
end
of
our
agenda
and
we
don't
have
any
further
public
comment.
Is
there
any
other
questions
or
comments
before
we
adjourn.