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From YouTube: Environment & Safety Committee – March 28, 2023
Description
Regular meeting of the Asheville City Council Environment & Safety Committee.
Access the agenda and other meeting materials at the City of Asheville website: https://www.ashevillenc.gov/government/city-council-committees/environment-and-safety-committee/
Participate before and during the meeting on our public engagement hub: https://publicinput.com/J8773
B
Good
morning
my
name
is
Maggie
Ullman
I
am
the
chair
of
the
environment
and
Safety
Committee
here
at
the
city
of
Asheville
and
I'd
like
to
welcome
you
to
our
March
28th
2023
remote
meeting,
all
Council
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually
and
to
help
our
audience.
Follow
along
I'll
see
each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud
where
you're
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
Hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
Hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city
website.
B
B
So
after
those
opening
remarks,
I
will
go
through
a
quick
roll
call
to
introduce
the
council
and
staff,
who
are
here
say
say:
hey
for
us.
First
off
vice
mayor,
Sandra,
Kilgore
good.
D
B
A
B
B
We
have
police
chief
David
Zack
good
morning
and
we
have
our
fire
chief
Scott
Burnett
good
morning
and
our
assistant
fire
chief
Patrick
critup
good
morning
good
morning.
All
right,
hey
everybody.
Let's
get
started.
We
have
a
full
agenda,
a
lot
to
talk
about
a
lot
to
learn
together
today
and
pretty
exciting
conversation
ahead.
B
So,
as
we
look
at
our
agenda,
we
will
go
ahead
and
open
up
at
the
beginning
and
I
think
we
also
still
have
at
the
end
an
opportunity
for
public
comments.
So
is
there
anyone
in
the
queue
that
would
like
to
start
off
with
public
comment
today.
F
F
Okay,
our
APD
needs
a
dramatic
salary
increase.
They
also
need
health
benefits.
Our
city
has
been
in
a
long
and
protracted
culture,
war
against
the
Asheville
Police
Department.
The
culture
War
has
engaged
in
forms
of
entrapment
demonstrated
in
the
recent
Aston
Park
debacle.
When
the
body
cam
footage
was
released
to
the
public,
it
demonstrated
how
incredibly
professional
that
the
APD
was
after
many
many
warnings
given
to
this
group.
They
still
decided
to
stay
in
the
park
and
when
the
police
showed
up,
they
still
were
incredibly
professional.
Enough
is
enough.
F
This
city
is
tired
of
suffering
from
flagrant
crime.
That's
happening
on
all
of
our
major
corridors
and
in
our
downtown.
The
only
way
for
that
to
be
mitigated
is
by
a
strong
police
presence,
like
the
one
that
we
used
to
have
three
years
ago,
so
we're
asking
that
our
city
strongly
support
the
Asheville
Police
Department
in
the
upcoming
to
Terry
discussions
and
also
remember
they
need
health
benefits.
Just
like
you
and
me,
thank
you
for
your
public
service.
F
A
G
G
If
any
of
you
have
ever
lost
your
mother
unexpectedly,
it's
a
hard
thing
and
I
remember
how
my
parents
used
to
speak
so
fondly
of
them
and
the
way
they
look
after
them
and
unfortunately,
I
had
to
I
reached
out
to
them
to
to
do
a
welfare
check,
and
unfortunately
it
did
not
turn
out
so
well.
My
mom
had
passed
away
at
her
home
unexpectedly,
but
the
level
of
compassion
and
professionalism
that
they
demonstrated
in
such
a
an
hour
leave.
G
For
me,
it
goes
beyond
measure
and
just
for
what
they
see
on
a
daily.
It
should
be
a
no-brainer
that
we
would
support
higher
pay
and
and
health
benefits
and
I
would
imagine.
Imagine
that
mental
health
is
also
part
of
that
equation.
G
They
are
probably
one
of
the
most
professional
agencies
that
I've
had
the
pleasure
of
engaging
and
I've
lived
all
throughout
the
country,
so
hopefully
you
guys
will
will
get
behind
them
and,
like
the
first
caller
said
you
know,
everything
is
is
pretty
rapid
here
we
ask
a
lot
of
them
and
and
and
each
day
and
night
24
hours
a
day.
They
they
stand
up
and
they
do
their
job
and
with
so
many
people
targeting
them.
G
But
again,
thank
you
for
the
time,
but
I
I,
fully
and
unequivocally
support
to
ask
for
police
and
I
hope.
You
guys
do
the
right
thing
and
give
them
that
raise
and
and
help
benefits.
B
H
Good
morning,
everybody,
many
of
you
know
me
on
a
personal
level,
my
name
is
Tom
tesser
I
have
presented
to
cancel
many
times
and
I
can't
implore
the
idea
enough
that
APD
needs
to
be
fully
funded
and
brought
back
to
full
service
I
understand.
H
There
are
a
lot
of
other
imperatives
like
the
environment,
like
sustainability,
Racial
equality
and
and
all
of
these
other
issues,
but
if
we
don't
have
a
safe
City,
all
of
that
other
stuff
doesn't
matter
if
somebody
does
not
feel
safe,
walking
out
of
their
house,
if
somebody
doesn't
feel
safe,
going
downtown
and
enjoying
our
merchants
and
our
restaurants
and
our
sites
that
we
have
downtown.
What
are
we
here,
for?
It
means
nothing
because
nobody
is
going
to
enjoy
going
out
and
seeing
our
city
and
enjoying
what
our
city
has
to
offer.
H
So
that
means
giving
full
retirement
benefits,
medical
benefits
and
upping
the
pay,
so
that
we
are
the
most
I
would
say
competitive
salary
wise
in
the
in
the
region,
so
that
officers
want
to
come
here
and
something
very
simple.
The
council
and
mayor
manager
can
do
is
to
support
our
APD
on
an
emotional
mental
level
and
to
give
them
all
the
support
that
they
need
not
to
vilify
them
and
to
hold
them
out
as
scapegoats
and
to
throw
them
under
the
bus
anytime.
H
Any
of
the
city
initiatives
go
south.
They
are
here
to
help
they're
always
going
to
be
bad
actors
in
every
profession
and
those
folks
have
to
be
pulled
out
and
have
to
be
taken
care
of.
But
you
don't
throw
the
baby
out
with
the
bath
water,
give
enough
money
so
that
we
can
bring
in
officers
laterally.
So
we
don't
have
to
have,
as
Chief
Zach
has
said,
multiple
times
a
10-year
window,
to
get
to
get
the
Department
back
up
to
full
Staffing.
H
So
that's
what
I
want
to
say.
I
hope
you
take
it
to
heart,
and
we
will
continue
to
press
our
message
throughout
the
the
remainder
of
the
time
until
the
budget
is
published,
and
we
are
keeping
a
very
close
eye
on
that
budget.
That
is
the
litmus
test.
The
money
is
either
going
to
be
there
or
it's
not
going
to
be
there,
and
if
it's
not
there
well
I,
don't
even
want
to
think
about
what
the
implications
of
that
are
going
to
be.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
I
Hear
me:
yes,
we
can
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
call
to
voice
my
support
for
apds
raises
voice,
my
support
for
them
to
have
better
increased
health
benefits
and
to
point
out
that
you
know,
I
know
that
they
get
a
bad
reputation
when
it
comes
to
the
homeless,
Outreach
and
homeless.
I
You
know
situation
that
we
have
going
on,
but
recently
I
met
a
young
lady
that
was
pregnant
under
a
bridge
who
had
immediate
need
and
I
called
every
Outreach
in
the
city,
and
nobody
helped
me
and
I
called
APD,
and
they
were
the
only
ones
to
answer
the
phone
and
actually
get
something
done
for
this
young
lady
and
thank
God.
B
That
is
it
thanks
for
helping
connect
that
appreciate
everybody
falling
in.
We
also
have
a
public
comment
at
the
end,
so
perhaps
we'll
hear
from
some
more
Neighbors.
B
To
go
ahead
and
get
into
our
agenda.
The
first
item
is
approval
of
the
February
28th
minutes.
Do
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
so
move
in
any
second.
B
Aye
vice
mayor
Kilgore,
aye
and
councilman
ulman
I,
the
motion
passes
okay,
so
next
we
are
going
to
hear
from
our
sustainability
director
Bridget
caring
last
month.
She
came
and
shared
a
presentation
on
the
municipal
climate
action
plan
and
we
wanted
a
little
bit
of
time
to
think
and
talk
to
the
community
and
she's
back
to
share
another
presentation,
or
maybe
some
updates
before
it
goes
to
council.
Today
we
are
seeking
a
vote
from
this
committee
to
see
if
we
are
comfortable
moving
this
forward
for
full
Council
consideration
this
evening.
B
Bridget
welcome
I'll,
pass
it
to
you.
D
Thank
you
and
good
morning,
members
of
council
and
those
from
the
public
that
are
tuning.
In
again,
my
name
is
Bridget
Herring
and
I'm
the
sustainability
director
here
today
to
talk
about
the
municipal
climate
action
plan.
You
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
the
key
takeaways
and
some
of
these
are
review
from
the
last
time.
I
was
here,
but
the
purpose
of
this
Municipal
climate
action
plan
is
to
update
the
2009
sustainability
management
plan
with
the
additional
sustainability
goals
that
Council
has
adopted.
D
What
really
excites
me
about
this
document
is
that
it
suggests
an
implementation
sequence
that
can
make
the
most
out
of
some
of
our
limited
resources
and
that
this
is
the
second
time
that
you're
hearing
about
this,
and
we
were
able
to
incorporate
some
of
those
suggestions
from
last
time
into
the
plan.
So
if
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
some
of
these
next
slides
are
a
little
bit
of
review
of
where
we
were
so
again.
This
shows
a
timeline.
D
This
isn't
an
exhaustive
list
of
all
the
policies
Council
has
passed
since
2009,
but
some
of
the
Heavy
Hitters,
and
so
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
recognize
that
the
update
of
the
carbon
reduction
goal
is
incorporated
into
this
document.
The
food
policy
action
plan,
which
was
adopted
in
2013
and
also
updated
in
2017,
is
incorporated
into
this
document.
D
The
waste
reduction
goal
also
incorporate
into
this
document
the
renewable
energy
goal
and
the
climate
emergency
and
the
action
steps
that
were
Incorporated
in
that,
such
as
the
climate
Justice
initiative,
are
also
incorporated
into
this
plan.
Next
slide,
So.
The
plan
comes
up
with
22
recommendations
that
are
organized
into
three
goals.
I
know
you
can
read
the
goals
that
are
on
the
screen,
so
I'm
going
to
summarize
them
in
my
own
words,
so
the
first
goal
I
think
about
is
our
physical
assets.
The
things
that
the
city
owns
operates
and
maintains.
D
We
want
those
things
to
be
efficient,
sustainable
and
resilient.
The
second
goal
is
really
about
how
we
embed
sustainability
into
how
we
make
decisions
and
ultimately,
utilize
our
public
resources
in
the
annual
budget
and,
lastly,
how
we
use
our
position
in
the
community
and
the
resources.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
our
residents
and
our
businesses
have
access
to
live,
sustainable
and
resilient
lives
themselves.
D
So
moving
on
to
the
next
slide,
I
know
this
slide
is
a
little
fuzzy.
It's
a
screenshot
from
the
plan.
So
those
of
you
who
want
to
see
it
better,
it's
on
page
five
of
the
document,
but
this
just
gives
us
an
overview
of
how
we
got
to
where
we
are.
So
since
we
weren't
looking
at
adopting
any
new
policies,
we
took
it
what
we,
what
we
heard
from
the
community
when
those
policies
were
adopted,
talk
to
the
sustainable
advisory
committee
and
staff
to
kind
of
formulate.
D
Also,
we
don't
know
what
our
opportunities
are
going
to
be
in
the
future.
So
I
think
this
allows
it
to
be
a
living
document
to
say
it's
another
opportunity
comes
up.
If
another
priority
arises,
we
can
look
at
the
sequencing
table
and
say:
do
we
want
to
shift
something
forwards
or
backwards
to
be
able
to
meet
the
moment
that
we're
in
so
next
slide?
D
I
should
mention
that
last
time,
councilwoman
Ullman
suggested
that
we
had
storm
water
into
the
activity
that
talks
about
State
policy
engagement,
and
so
we
were
able
to
incorporate
into
that
activity
to
make
sure
storm
water
was
caught
out,
specifically
so
high
level
snapshot.
I
know
you
have
a
lot
on
your
agenda
today,
but
wanted
to
give
a
quick
review
and
then
see.
If
you
have
any
questions.
B
Thanks
Bridget
appreciate
hearing
some
of
the
framing
again
appreciate
that
you
were
able
to
kind
of
fold
storm
water
in,
like
we
talked
last
time,
we've
been
dedicating
staff
time
to
work
on
state
level,
energy
policy
for
some
time
and
it
it
takes
a
long
time
and
so
starting
to
point
our
path
towards
storm
water
as
well.
So
we
can
be
even
more
prepared.
I
I
appreciate
that
we've
been
able
to
incorporate
that
policy.
B
Direction,
yeah,
I,
guess
I'll,
just
repeat
what
I
was
what
I've
shared
in
the
past
about
this,
that
this
is
so
hopeful
to
me.
I
read
this
plan
and
I
think
that
this
has
a
lot
of
ambition.
It
carves
a
path
for
us
to
be
on
for
quite
some
time,
so
we
get
some
real
Clarity
on
where
we're
going
and
then
it's
tempered
by
our
you
know,
trademark,
sensibility
and
pragmatism
and
I.
B
Just
really
appreciate
that,
in
a
context
where
cities
in
North
Carolina
cannot
do
the
type
of
climate
change
strategies
that
cities
and
other
states
can,
if
there's
a
lot
of
real
strategic
thinking
here
for
us
to
really
leverage
and
maximize
what
we
could.
Potentially,
do
yeah
I'm
very
excited
about
it.
I
also
will
say
you
know,
having
been
you
know,
stewarding
the
first
climate
action
plan
that
was
adopted
in
2009.
B
It
just
tickles
me
that
we
are
still
leaders
in
this
and
that
cities
are
really
in
the
absence
of
federal
and
global
aggressive
change.
Cities
are
still
leading
our
communities
in
this
direction,
so
I'm
just
so
grateful
for
all
your
leadership
teammates
on
Council
and
the
comments
or
questions
from
y'all.
C
The
only
thing
I
can
say
is
I'm
glad
to
see
it
moving
forward
and
finally
sort
of
you
know,
but
because
the
community
has
been
asking
for
this
for
so
long
and
they
feel,
like
we've,
just
sort
of
dropped.
The
ball
now
showing
up
that
we
are
committed
forward.
Thank
you.
Virginia.
B
Fantastic
roll
call
vote,
councilwoman,
Smith,
aye,
best
mayor
Kilgore,
bye
and
myself,
councilman
Allman
a
hearty
I.
Let's
do
this
can't
wait
to
have
this
conversation
with
a
full
Council
this
evening
to
hear
what
some
other
colleagues
think
and
to
just
get
all
of
us
really
excited
about
doubling
down
and
working
even
harder
on
these
awesome
strategies
and
goals
and
programs
thanks
so
much
Bridget
all
right.
B
Next,
we
will
move
to
look
at
some
other
planning
efforts
where
we're
looking
up
and
looking
ahead
at
the
future
we
want
and
how
we're
going
to
get
there.
This
next
agenda
item
is
item
four,
and
it's
with
our
Parks
or
X
Director
D
Tyrell
who's
going
to
speak
to
us
about
the
comprehensive
Parks
and
Recreations
master
plan,
and
my
understanding
is
similarly
to
the
sustainability
plan.
K
Good
morning,
chair,
councilor
Oldman
vice
mayor
Kilgore,
counselor
Smith,
with
a
record
on
D
Tyrell
and
parts
and
Recreation
director
with
the
city
of
Asheville
before
I
go
any
further.
K
I
do
just
want
to
recognize
a
couple
of
key
staff,
Pete
wall
out
of
Parks
and
Recreation
assistant
director
and
how
of
landscape
architect
within
the
department
that
have
done
a
lot
of
heavy
lifting
to
get
us
to
this
point
in
the
master
plan
process,
where
we're
coming
to
you
asking
for
the
approval
to
continue
to
move
forward
next
slide,
some
key
takeaways
some
things
to
keep
in
mind.
As
you
mentioned,
councilor
Ullman.
This
is
we've
gone
through
this
process.
K
Before
the
last
Parks
and
Recreation
master
plan
was
completed
and
adapted
by
Council
back
in
2009,
we've
started
this
process
of
looking
at
a
new,
updated
master
plan
process
back
in
November
staff
came
together,
started
talking
about
the
things
we
would
like
to
see
in
the
master
plan
process
was
needed,
a
list
of
deliverables
and
ways
to
make
this
master
plan
process
special.
We
don't
want
anything,
that's
been
done
before
or
things
that
we
see
in
other
municipalities.
K
K
A
consultant
was
selected
in
January
February
and
now
we're
here
we're
recommending
that
this
committee,
along
with
Council,
approved
the
hiring
of
a
consultant,
as
well
as
the
contract
for
this
comprehensive
master
plan
process
that
we're
proposing
the
last
thing
is,
if
approved,
will
continue
to
come
back
to
this
committee
and
provide
an
updates
on
the
progress
where
things
stand
over
the
course
of
the
year
as
we
go
through
the
master
plan
next
slide.
K
The
purpose
is
simple:
we
just
need
an
updated
plan
to
kind
of
guide
decisions
both
on
the
infrastructure
side,
as
well
as
the
programming.
So
a
lot
of
times
when
we
think
about
parts
of
record
Master
pitting
a
lot
of
those
efforts
are
heavily
concentrated
on
the
infrastructure
facilities
and
those
improvements
to
the
need.
K
How
would
there
have
been
a
lot
of
changes
within
Parks
and
Rec
over
the
years?
Those
changes
now
allow
us
the
opportunity
to
focus
heavily
on
community
recreation.
So,
as
we
move
forward
with
a
master
plan
process,
this
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
dive
deep
into
again
what
are
the
needs
of
our
residents
and
businesses
as
it
relates
to
Recreation
planning,
and
then
how
do
we
focus
heavily
on
those
plans
moving
forward
next
slide?
K
Some
key
outcomes
for
us
include
taking
a
look
at
all
of
our
Recreation
facilities
programming,
as
they
stand
right
now,
as
well
as
how
do
we
see
ourselves
in
the
future,
pull
in
substantial
information
from
the
community
and
engage
it
in
a
really
robust
Community
engagement
process?
I
mentioned
a
little
bit
earlier
that
our
Focus
now
is
on
community
recreation,
and
how
do
we
provide
that
more
deeply?
As
we
look
at
community
recreation,
our
priorities
within
a
department
are
focused
in
three
areas:
Equity
Innovation
and
sustainable
practices.
K
So,
as
we
talk
about
Parks
and
Rec,
we
want
to
look
at
how
do
we
prioritize
those
programs
in
our
Capital
Investments
equitably
across
the
system?
What
does
innovation
look
like
as
we
talk
about
the
future
of
parks
and
rec
here
in
Asheville,
we
feel
Asheville
is
prom
place
to
not
be
status
quo,
but
how
can
we
move
to
the
next
level
in
terms
of
recreation
offerings
and
then,
of
course,
we
anything
that
we
do.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
some
sustainable,
sustainable
practices
in
place.
K
The
last
piece
of
this
is
informing
the
community
informative
public
of
what
Recreation
is
in
an
effort
to
build
support
to
get
the
community
supporting
this
effort
next
slide.
K
So
the
process
here
the
timeline
is,
if
approved,
we'll
move
straight
into
the
springtime,
we're
collecting,
collecting
data.
The
summertime
would
take
us
into
doing
an
assessment
of
our
Parks,
our
programs,
administrative
operations
that
would
take
us
into
the
fall
where
we'll
get
a
chance
to
look
at
Community
Parks,
take
a
deeper
dive
into
the
recreation
needs.
K
We
hope
by
the
end
of
this
calendar
year,
to
have
some
solid
recommendations
based
on
the
community.
Engagement
based
on
continue
to
work
with
the
Consultants
on
how
we
eventually
see
this
master
plan
process
playing
out
and
what
are
some
of
the
recommendations
that
are
coming
from
it
and
by
next
spring.
This
time
next
year
have
a
strategic
action
plan
in
place
that
will
kind
of
set
us
up
for
the
next
10
years
and
Parks
and
Recreation
planning
next
slide.
K
Current
working
next
steps,
like
I,
said
earlier.
We
started
this
process
back
in
November,
RFP
Services
were
issued
back
in
January.
A
consultant
was
selected
in
February
and
we're
here
we're
here
asking
for
this
committee,
along
with
Council,
to
approve
a
contract
with
design
Workshop,
which
is
based
out
of
Raleigh
North
Carolina.
K
To
do
our
comprehensive,
Parks
and
Recreation
plan
again
that
we
got
the
next
10
plus
years
of
the
department,
if
approved,
we're,
ready
to
move
forward,
get
the
contract
going
in
April
and
then
be
ready
to
have
a
our
first
kickoff
meeting
this
spring
most
likely
next
month.
Next
slide.
K
I
requested
action
is
to
have
Council
move
forward
with
the
city
council,
with
a
recommendation
to
approve
the
contract
to
hire
the
consultant
for
the
development
again
for
the
Parks
and
Recreation
system-wide
plan
next
slide
happy
to
take
any
questions.
This
committee
may
have.
C
For
the
report
of
what
I'd
like
to
say
is
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
all
the
hard
work
that
you've
done
in
the
recreation
department.
Not
just
I
I
can
tell
the
difference.
That
was
one
of
my
concerns
when
I
came
on,
Council
was
sort
of
expanding
on
the
recreation
department,
where
it
actually
sort
of
spilled
over,
especially
in
the
communities
that
were
impacted,
a
lot
of
the
communities
that
basically
did
not
have
its
services
or
access
or
programming
and
you've
stepped
in
in
the
last.
C
What
is
it
a
year
and
a
half,
or
whatever
and
I've,
seen
remarkable
enrolled
to
me
or
it's?
You
know
correcting
that
and
that
to
make
leads
a
month
and
I'd
like
to.
C
Thank
you
very
much
and
also,
as
far
as
like
you
said,
of
being
able
to
move
over
with
the
Consulting
I
think
that's
a
a
great
idea,
because
what
it
actually
does,
even
though
you
bring
your
experiences
you're
willing
to
accept
you
know,
you
know
different
points
of
use
from
all
different
narratives
in
order
to
expand,
because
she
wants
to
invest
and
I
greatly
appreciate
all
the
difference.
B
Think
there's
so
many
Beginnings
that
start
with
Parks
and
Rec
that
never
go
in
that
direction.
So
I
don't
know
if
I
have
a
really
concise
comment.
I
just
want
to
create
that
linkage,
because
when
I've
talked
with
UD,
like
we
I
hear
that
connection
and
when
I've
talked
with
other
counselors,
we
see
how
immunity
building
is
a
big
role
of
ours.
So
I
don't
know.
Maybe
just
do
you
have
any
reflection
on.
Is
that
kind
of
a
lens
that's
being
applied?
B
K
Absolutely
I
try
to
be
real,
quick
and
concise.
With
this
again,
the
changes
that
have
been
made
over
the
years
with
Asheville,
Parks
and
Recreation
is
now
that
we
have
that
opportunity
to
focus
strictly
on
community
recreation.
I
think
we're
going
to
hear
that,
as
we
involve
a
community
in
this
robust
Community
engagement
process,
we're
hearing
it
already,
it's
gonna
come
now
that
the
community
is
asking
for
what
does
more
Equitable
Recreation
opportunities.
Look
like
how
do
we
provide
more
services
in
the
centers
that
we
have?
K
K
Those
are
the
focused
things
that
we
have
concentrated
on
as
we
provide
services,
programming
and
moving
forward
and
planning
within
the
department,
so
I
think
the
community
recreation
Focus,
specifically
Equity
Innovation,
the
public
engagement
and
coupled
with
what
we're
already
hearing,
is
going
to
tie
into
services
that
the
community
wants
to
see
us
provide,
which
will
hopefully
have
some
results
in
in
terms
of
Public,
Safety
and
and
and
some
end
results
that
can
kind
of
curb
some
of
what
we're
seeing
right.
Now.
B
Thanks
for
speaking
to
that-
and
it
sounds
like
you
know,
through
many
planning
processes-
some
of
the
outcomes
are
what
are
the
goals
we
want
to
achieve?
What
are
the
programs?
What
are
the
improvements
that
type
of
thing
and
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
is
what
you're
hearing?
What
we're
hearing
in
the
community
is
that
that
link
is
people
see
that
full
connection
link
and
that
this
plan
will
help
us,
articulate
that
I'm
very
excited
for
that
I
really
think
you're
leadership,
pointing
towards
Innovation
and
Equity,
is
very
strategic,
and
it's
exciting
thanks.
J
Maggie,
you
kind
of
covered
what
I
wanted
to
ask
the
teacher
rail
about
maybe
the
end
of
last
year,
your
staff
and
some
community
members
met
about
this
very
conversation.
How
do
we
engage
young
adults
early
off
and
get
them
really
involved
to
kind
of
deter
some
of
the
idle
time
that
they
have,
that
may
lead
to
criminal
activity
or
that
decision?
J
Where
is
that
conversation
gone?
And
do
you
believe
that
is
a
target
audience
not
only
in
your
engagement
but
also
in
your
program,
development,
yeah.
K
So
again,
A
lot
of
times
when
you
go
through
a
master
plan
process,
the
focus
is
on
the
the
infrastructure,
the
capital
projects,
improvements
that
need
to
be
made
part
of
what
we're
doing
with
this
master
plan
process
is
also
including
the
program
inside
the
recreation
side.
So
we
know
that
from
our
observation,
there
are
a
lot
of
services
here
in
Asheville,
and
the
last
thing
we
want
to
do
is
be
in
direct
competition
with
anything
Recreation
based
or
related.
So
we
want
to
understand
what
all
the
services
are.
K
What
are
all
the
other
Recreation
based
opportunities?
There
are
for
Asheville
residents
and
then
what
makes
sense
for
Asheville,
Parks
and
Rec
to
actively
be
programming
where
what
does
it
make
sense
for
us
to
really
focus
our
Attention
our
dollars,
our
investments
in
terms
of
recreation
opportunities,
so
this
process
will
give
us
an
opportunity
to
bring
some
consultants
in
take
a
look
at
everything
that's
being
offered
here
in
Asheville,
and
it
may
make
sense
that
we
don't
do
a
lot
of
outdoor
record.
K
Then
we
focus
more
on
neighborhood
Recreation,
that
sort
of
thing,
so
the
process
will
give
us
an
opportunity
to
evaluate
assess,
do
some
benchmarking,
with
some
other,
like
municipalities,
to
make
sense
of
our
Direction
and
and
future
planning
for
the
recreation
side
of
the
house.
So
I
think
what
we're
doing
by
involving
the
recreation
side
and
this
master
plan
process
is
pretty
different
from
album
master
fans
out
are
traditionally
done.
J
When
you
bought
a
neighborhood
Recreation,
it
makes
me
think
about
some
of
the
territories
that
come
along
with
neighborhoods
in
some
of
our
gang
activity,
so
in
building
out
this
plan
and
proper
implementation,
so
that
we
do
have
a
stronger
sense
of
belonging
and
community
in
our
programming
and
how
we
deliver.
Would
you
all
consider
taking
on
the
initiative
of
creating
safe
zones
where
all
community
members,
no
matter
their
affiliation
or
no
matter
their
zip
code?
They're
welcome.
J
K
These
are
some
of
the
comments
and
feedback
that
we're
hearing
from
community
members
now
I
think
it's
just
going
to
involve
us
diving
deeper
into
those
conversations,
but
we're
willing
and
and
welcome
diving
deeper
and
having
them.
B
B
So
our
next
item
really
does
play
into
the
conversation
we're
having
we're
having
a
comprehensive
conversation
today
of
the
various
places
that
we're
looking
at
Community
safety.
The
next
item
item
number
five
on
our
agenda
is
a
look
at
the
crime
data
and
our
recruitment
update
our
police
chief
David
Zack
will
take
us
through
that
conversation.
Welcome
chief.
L
Thank
you
and
good
morning,
yeah
again,
our
what
we'll
be
looking
at
today
is
our
year-end
Prime
report
for
2022,
but
we
also
want
to
highlight
some
operations
that
we
conducted
over
the
past
year
that
have
proven
very,
very
successful
for
us
and
again
we
will
touch
on
where
our
recruiting
effort
stands
currently
so
next
slide.
Please.
L
He
takeaways
from
this
presentation,
although
violent
crime
Trends
are
discouraging,
we
are
committed
to
ensuring
Asheville
continues
to
be
a
safe
place
to
live.
Do
business
shop
recreate
and
visit
2022
violent
crime,
trended
at
historically
High
rates,
both
nationally
and
in
Asheville.
We
can
certainly
see
where
our
violent
crime,
where
it's
increasing
and
it's
definitely
increasing
in
2022
by
a
17.4
percent
increase
in
aggravated
assaults.
L
In
spite
of
the
serious
deficit
of
resources,
we
are
aggressively
deploying
officers
to
respond
to
various
types
of
crimes,
especially
violent
crime,
to
effectively
address
increasing
crime
in
our
community.
We
must
continue
to
strengthen
Public
Safety
as
a
responsibility
of
every
sector
of
our
community
next
slide.
Please.
L
On
the
good
news
side
of
the
chart,
what
we
are
seeing
since
2019
to
2000
2022
is
a
significant
decrease
in
property
crime.
So
so
that
is
definitely
some
good
news
from
2021
to
2022.
We
saw
another.
Almost
five
percent
decrease
in
property
crime
property
crime
is
defined
as
burglary,
larceny
or
theft,
motor
vehicle
theft
and
arson,
and
that's
according
to
the
FBI's
Uniform
Crime
reporting.
L
Can
we
set
that
I
had
two
slides.
Please.
L
Okay
and
now
the
bad
news,
violent
crime
has
continued
at
historically
High
rates
from
2021
to
2022.
We
saw
an
actual
17
and
a
half
percent
increase
in
violent
crime,
but,
as
you
can
see,
going
all
the
way
way
back
to
2013.
L
This
rise
in
violent
crime
has
been
pretty
steady
from
year
to
year,
so
it
is
at
a
very
High
historic
rate
and
we're
doing
our
best
to
address
that.
So
if
we
could
go
back
now
to
slide
four
I'm
sorry
for
that.
L
I
spoke
briefly
of
some
targeted
operations,
so
I
kind
of
kind
of
wanted
to
tell
you
some
of
the
ones
that
we've
conducted
over
the
past
year,
and
this
is
now
kind
of
flowed
into
this
year
because
of
the
Staffing
crisis
that
we're
dealing
with
sustained
presence
for
us
has
been
difficult,
but
as
we
collect
data
and
analyze
data
and
try
to
pare
it
down
to
see
where
we'll
be
most
effective,
we've
conducted
some
very
targeted
operations
which
have
been
very
successful.
L
For
example,
earlier
in
the
year
we
were
seeing
targeted,
break-ins
and
window
smashing
downtown.
We
deployed
teams
of
officers
at
various
points
times
a
day
and
on
specific
days
in
an
attempt
to
address
those
break-ins,
we
did
arrest
two
persons
who
were
responsible
for
a
number
of
those
break-ins.
There
were
12
other
arrests.
L
During
that
operation
we
issued
12
citations,
gave
out
48
verbal
warnings
and
conducted
almost
658
business
checks.
As
we
were
working
on
that
operation
and
again,
we
were
able
to
conduct
to
make
arrests
on
the
two
persons
who
were
involved
in
those
window.
Smashings
we've
we've
conducted
several
different
operations
to
Target
habitual
shoplifting.
L
So
we
were
up
in
the
South
Tunnel
Road,
so
I
don't
know
a
River
Road,
Brevard
Road
Smokey
Park
Highway
area
that
particular
Opera.
Those
particular
operations
that
it's
73
arrests
were
127
charges
were
issued,
33
of
which
were
felonies.
We
also
recovered
methamphetamine,
Fentanyl
and
ecstasy
pills
along
with
some
Firearms.
So
those
operations
that
were
very
targeted,
very
specific
yielded
very
large
results
in
a
from
September
28th
October
28th.
When
we
were
looking
at
our
violent
crime
mapping,
we
were
seeing
that
specifically
downtown
our
old
Charlie.
District
was
very
much.
L
The
numbers
on
violent
crime
were
Rising,
so
we
went
in.
We
targeted
the
downtown
area
during
that
period,
from
September
28
to
October
28th.
We
made
60
arrests
issued
172
citations
in
277
verbal
warnings.
So
what
we
know
from
that
operation,
not
only
were
we
concentrating
on
what
might
be
lower
level
or
nuisance
crimes.
What
we
did
see
was
a
significant
drop
in
aggravated
assaults
that
were
occurring
primarily
downtown.
L
So
if
you
look
at
2022
during
that
same
time
period,
we
had
seven
aggravated
assaults
during
2022
at
the
same
time
period
when
we
conducted
that
operation,
the
number
reduced
to
one
so
pres
our
presence
does
matter.
When
we
look
back
where
we
had
the
window,
break-ins
downtown
again
the
targeted
operations
that
we
had
down
there
again,
we
saw
a
dramatic
reduction
in
aggravated
assaults.
So
already
this
year
in
January
of
22,
we
had
five
aggravated
assaults
downtown
in
January
2023
won
in
February
of
2022.
L
We
had
four
downtown
again
only
one
already
in
March
in
2022
we
had
six.
We
only
had
three
in
2023,
so
we
are
seeing
significant
progress
when
we
conduct
these
targeted
operations,
so
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
stain,
sustain
that
continue
to
monitor
our
data
and
continue
to
deploy
our
resources
as
best
as
we
possibly
can
and
have
the
greatest
possible
effect.
But
again,
unfortunately,
you
know
presence
matters.
We
can't
always
be
visible
as
much
as
we'd
like,
but
when
we
do
Target
our
operations,
they
are
very,
very
successful.
L
Homicides,
unfortunately,
we
did
see
11
homicides
in
2022
up
slightly
from
2021,
but
again
the
data
doesn't
show
dramatic
rise,
nor
a
dramatic
decrease.
It's
been
fairly
consistent,
probably
since
2016,
so
no
major.
What
I
would
would
consider
statistically
significant
increases
in
homicide.
L
Next,
please.
Over
the
last
five
years
there
were
52
homicides
reported
in
Asheville
in
2022,
our
criminal
investigative
division
was
staffed.
We
were
down
over
55
percent,
however,
that
did
not
affect
our
clear
current
clearance
rate
dramatically.
We
were
at
63
percent
in
2022.
When
you
talk
about
the
national
average
in
2020
and
2021,
the
national
average
for
clearance
rate
of
homicide
is
50.
So,
despite
being
down,
55
percent
of
our
investigative
staff
were
still
higher
than
the
national
average
clearance
rate
for
homicide.
L
L
This
is
something
we've
been
concentrating
on.
It's
really
been
a
three-year
effort
now
in
trying
to
reduce
the
number
of
shots,
fired
calls
for
service
in
the
city,
so
you
can
see
our
efforts
from
2020
to
2022
we've
seen
two
years
of
steady
drops
in
shot
fire
call.
We
would
most.
L
Next,
please,
where
there's
good
news,
there
are
sometimes
bad
news.
While
shots
fired
calls
have
come
down,
we
did
see
an
increase
over
the
past
year
of
the
number
of
people
who
were
injured
by
gunshot
fire.
We
had
2021,
we
had
31
2022.
The
number
went
up
slightly
to
36
but
again
lower
than
the
number
that
we
had
in
2020.
So
unfortunately,
although
the
the
number
of
shots
fired
calls
reduced,
we
did
see
more
people
hit
than
we
did
a
year
ago.
L
L
We
saw
21
almost
22
percent
increase
from
last
year,
so
this
is
really
what's
driving
our
violent
crime
numbers,
and
this
is
where
we're
trying
to
isolate
those
areas
and
and
be
able
to
deploy
officers
as
effectively
as
possible
to
get
those
numbers
down
and
again,
as
I
stated
earlier,
some
of
the
targeted
operations
that
we've
done
have
brought
those
numbers
down
so
we'll
see,
and
hopefully
in
2023.
We
can
see
for
the
first
time
in
a
long
time,
a
reduction
in
aggravated
assault.
But
that's
where
we're
we're
focusing
our
efforts
primarily.
L
Next,
please,
we
did
see
a
reduction
in
rape
again,
it's
very
difficult
to
be
proactive
in
this
area,
and
the
numbers
are
pretty
consistent
over
time,
and
this
is
one
of
those
categories
of
crime
that
are
just
again
very
difficult
to
be
proactive
with.
L
L
L
Next,
please
so
I
guess,
if
you'd,
like
I,
could
take
some
questions
on
the
crime
data
before
we
get
into
our
recruitment
efforts.
C
Question
have
cheek
Zach.
Thank
you
very
much.
It
was
very
informative,
I'm,
quite
sure
for
me
and
also
for
our
audience.
But
one
thing
I
want
to
ask
you.
When
you
talk
about
the
increase
in
Agri
assault,
do
you
have
any
kind
of
breakdown
as
to
what
you
know
is
is
what's
the
reasoning
behind
all
the
calls
behind
certain
ones
if
certain
ones
rise
the
the
numbers
right
higher
in
certain
categories,
they
have
a
breakdown
as
to
what
is
actually
causing
that.
L
L
C
Yes,
it
is
helpful,
I
guess
what
I'm
sort
of
getting
that
I
was
just
wondering
as
far
as
the
aggravated
assault,
how
much
how
many
of
those
were
sort
of
a
percentage
of
those
were
related
to
a
drug.
L
L
B
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
you
were
mentioning
that
when
you're
looking
at
aggregated
assault,
location
is
part
of
the
conversation,
do
we
have
any
Maps
or
data?
That
kind
of
explain
where
we're
seeing
you
know
most
of
this
happened.
I
think
I
have
some
assumptions
but
curious.
What
the
data
says.
Yeah.
L
We
did
and
we
presented
a
few
months
back
at
another
crime
update
meeting.
We
were
identifying
we,
we
did
Identify
some
very
specific
locations
where
aggravated
assault
was
more
prevalent.
One
of
those
locations
was
the
downtown
area
and
again
we
were
able
to
move
resources
in
because
other
issues
were
occurring
downtown
such
as
the
burglaries
and
the
break-ins.
L
So
as
we
deployed
those
resources,
we
saw
the
numbers
come
down,
so
there
are
I
think
we
identified
maybe
six
or
seven
areas
within
a
city
that
had
an
unusually
high
number
of
aggravated
assaults
and
over
time
we've
tried
to
move
resources
to
those
areas
to
get
the
numbers
down,
but
unfortunately,
then
it
the
problem
does
travel
as
well.
L
So
it
is
a
bit
of
a
shell
game.
You
know
we're
not
going
in
blindly.
L
L
That's
that's
not
going
to
drive
necessarily
all
crime
down,
but
certain
particular
crimes.
We
know
if,
if
we're
present
and
we're
visible,
those
numbers
can
go
down.
That's
not
the
all
crime,
but
it
is
for
certain
crime.
L
Yeah
and
I
think
again
just
just
kind
of
telling
you
what
the
numbers
were.
We
deployed
entirely
District.
It
was
very,
very
effective.
J
Thank
you,
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
big
shout
out:
Chief
Zack
having
a
clearance
rate
of
63
percent.
Even
when
you
were
down
tremendously
I
think
the
community
is
talking.
I
know
we
see
that
you
all
are
really
putting
a
concerted
effort
and
being
really
aggressive
to
solve
crimes,
especially
gun
crimes,
gun
violence,
but
I
would
I
would
dare
to
say
that
that
number
could
probably
be
a
little
bit
higher
based
on
some
circumstances.
Beyond
your
team
and
their
effort.
J
Could
you
kind
of
speak
to
that?
Can
we
have
a
higher
clearance
rate
and,
what's
attributing
to
the
numbers
saying
like
where
it
is
or
being.
L
There's
no
question
yeah.
There
is
definitely
no
question,
especially
when
you're
talking
about
homicide,
especially
when
you're
talking
about
homicide
that
might
be
tied
to
gang
activity,
certainly
the
more
information
we
have
and
that's
going
to
come
from
the
community,
because
when
these
these
homicides
are
occurring,
we're
not
present
that's
clear,
but
someone
always
is
there's
always
going
to
be
a
witness.
There's
always
going
to
be
talk
on
the
street,
there's
always
going
to
be
engagement
over
social
media.
L
That
you
know
would
be
extremely
helpful
to
us
in
those
investigations.
So,
of
course,
we
always
need
to
come.
Have
people
come
forward,
but
what
we've
also
talked
about
is
our
need
for
violence.
Interrupters,
that
when
we
know
crime
is,
you
know,
oftentimes.
This
stuff
is
especially
when
you're
talking
about
gang
activity.
L
A
lot
of
this
violence
is
telegraphed
in
advance
and
if
we're
able
to
get
the
proper
Partners
to
work
together
with
us,
I
think
we
can
really
have
a
significant
impact
on
homicide,
aggravated
assault
and
very
and
drug
trafficking.
L
If
we're
able
to
get
a
team
together
and
find
adequate
Partners
who
want
to
work
with
APD
I
think
we
could
do
a
lot
more
in
this
city
to
get
the
number
of
shots
fired,
calls
now
to
get
the
aggravated
assaults
down
to
get
the
homicides
down
and
to
get
the
victims
of
shootings
down.
So
you
know
our
last
key
takeaway
was
it's
all
of
our
responsibility,
so
APD
is
willing
to
work,
we're
willing
to
to
work
with
Partners.
It's
just.
We
have
to
find
the
partners
who
are
willing
to
work
with
us
and
again.
C
And
ask
you
a
question
and
I
I
know
this.
It
may
be
a
silly
question,
but
I
want
to
ask
you
what
is
when
you
talk
about
gang
activity?
Does
gang
activity
automatically
correlates
to
drug
activity
or
is
there
a
difference
in
gay
activity.
L
No,
it's
it's
definitely
tied
together.
I
think
you
know,
gang
activity
is
very
Broad
and
there
are
very
well
you
know.
If
we're
talking
about
you
know
gang
activity
in
LA
or
Chicago
or
New
York
City
is
far
different
than
gang
activity
in
Asheville,
okay
for
gangs.
Yes,
are
they
as
structured
or
do
they
have
the
numbers?
L
And
you
know
the
organizational
philosophy
that
that
you
might
see
in
large
big
city
gang?
No,
these
are
more
Loosely
connected,
neighborhood,
Turf
type.
L
L
Okay,
if
that
is
all
I'm
going
to
ask
Captain
Moore
I,
think
one.
J
Smith,
oh
sorry,
but
I
do
have
a
question
brother,
a
comment
I,
really
liked
how
you
pointed
out
the
targeted
operation,
how
you
were
monitoring
data
and
deploying
resources
when
it
came
to
I,
guess,
larceny
and
I
was
wondering
like
in
the
future.
J
When
you
do
the
crime
data
reports,
if
you
could
do
that,
each
topic,
like
with
gun
violence,
how
are
you
all
monitoring
the
data
and
what
resources
you're,
deploying
that's
great
information
and
a
great
way
for
the
public
to
see
exactly
how
you
are
responding
and
the
result
of
your
response.
L
Absolutely
we're
more
than
happy
to
provide
that
data
as
often
as
you'd
like
it.
I
can
always
give
an
update
on
that.
L
If
that
is,
all
I
will
know
invite
Captain
Mora,
who
will
give
an
update
on
the
current
status
of
our
our
officers
in
basic
training
in
field
training,
and
also
where
we
stand
currently
with
our
digital
advertising
with
epic,
so
Captain
Moore
good
morning.
M
Take
it
away,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
I
think
we
have
done
this
once
before.
Obviously,
these
numbers
change
and
I
will
ensure
that
you
have
time
for
questions.
If
you
have
it
but
to
get
started,
we
have
been
working
the
chief
more
closely
with
staff
to
ensure
that
the
committee
and
council
is
well
aware
of
what
is
happening
around
the
state
and
the
nation
when
it
comes
to
where
our
benefits
and
where
we
line
up.
We
continually
monitor
this.
M
It's
it's
very
clear
when,
when
comments
and
things
are
made,
how
quickly
other
agencies
surrounding
us
react
to
that
to
try
to
one-up
us,
so
we
we
appreciate
your
willingness
to
work
with
us
to
try
to
ensure
that
we're
competitive.
We
know
we
have
to
be
competitive
for
any
of
this
to
work,
and
so
these
two
things
go
together.
So
thank
you
for
that.
We
we
currently
have
10
officers
that
be
completing
their
field,
training
in
May,
hopefully
in
May,
to
be
fully
on
board
to
update
you.
M
That
next
number
is
wrong.
We
unfortunately
lost
one
of
our
current
staff
members
in
the
academy,
so
we
have
four
and
I
think
that
kind
of
does
at
least
let
the
committee
know
the
reality
of
what
we've
said
before
that
the
standards
are
still
there.
The
state
hasn't
reduced
that
any,
and
this
isn't
an
easy
academy
by
any
means,
and
so,
when
we
get
folks
out
and
they
get
into
their
field,
training
they're
getting
the
same
level
of
training
and
standard
that
everybody
at
this
table
receives.
M
So
none
of
that
has
changed
and
unfortunately
we
will
lose
folks
along
the
way
and
we
did
lose
one.
So
those
folks
that
are
still
there
are
scheduled
to
graduate
in
July
and
then
they
go
into
their
field
training
and
hopefully
we'll
be
completing
that
by
end
of
year
we
are
processing,
8,
more
applications,
now
we're
getting
close
to
that
cut
off
date.
M
If
we
haven't
already
reached
it
with
those
individuals
that
will
reach
that
July
2023
blet
class,
we
did
try
to
hold
that
off
a
little
bit
because
we've
attended
the
Canton
job
fair.
M
Just
to
kind
of
give
you
a
little
piece
of
that
too
Chief
Zach
spoke
specifically
with
some
of
those
organizers
to
try
to
ensure
that
we,
along
with
City
HR,
were
there
promoting
the
open
positions
that
we
have
within
the
police
department,
but
also
within
the
city.
There
was
a
huge
turnout
at
that
event.
We
also
attended
another
one
last
Friday
at
the
AG
Center,
and
so
though,
historically
those
are
not
huge
pickups
for
us
when
it
comes
to
career
fairs
and
what
statistics
show
when
we
attend
them.
M
We
are
ensuring
that
we're
out
there
and
that
we're
putting
forth
what
we
have
going
on
with
the
Department,
as
well
as
the
openings
that
we
have
available,
and
so
we
have
additional
two
or
three
more
job
fairs,
we'll
be
attending
in
April.
Trying
to
do
everything
we
can
to
bolster
those
numbers
for
the
next
Academy
we're
hoping
we
don't
continue
to
see
eight
as
the
number,
but
we're
closer
to
what
our
Target
is
and
that's
12
to
15
in
every
Academy
class.
M
Next
slide,
please,
on
the
recruitment,
runs
it's
a
kind
of
give
an
update
of
of
our
work
with
epic,
those
that,
on
the
committee
had
seen
this
previously
and
what
it
was.
We
attempted
in
this
this
round
to
try
to
speak
to
what
each
of
these
areas
mean.
Obviously
we're
learning
most
of
us
are
police
driven
Even.
M
In
our
education
background,
we
were
not
social,
media
and
or
analytical
driven
on
how
you
get
to
from
likes
to
touches
to
Impressions
to
clicks,
and
so
we
tried
on
the
next
couple,
slides
to
really
give
a
a
really
Bare
Bones
example
and
explanation
on
what
this
all
means,
but
we
launched
in
September
later
in
September,
we
gave
that
digital
advertising
its
launch.
M
All
of
this
content
and
the
ad
campaigns
are
worked
together
with
our
social
media
and
Pio
crew
here
to
direct
what
that
target
audience
will
be
and
where
we're
going
based
on
the
numbers
and
what
we've
seen
previous,
we
do
all
that
tailored
around
what
that
audience
looks
like.
So
we
use
the
social
media
content
on
those
platforms
from
what
you
see,
Facebook,
Instagram
Twitter,
anything
out
there.
We
can
get
on
to
we're
on
to
so
that
we
can
try
to
get
APD
out
in
front
of
as
many
people
as
possible
to
drive
interest.
M
With
everyone
saying
a
decline
in
those
that
want
to
get
into
the
job,
then
we
have
the
added
piece
of
trying
to
increase
their
awareness
to
want
to
come
to
work
for
us
and
so
we're
working
on
that
each
month
with
different
ideas
and
campaigns
to
change
that
around.
Since
the
launch
we
have
seen
over
8
500
increases
in
clicks
to
the
website,
you'll
see
on
the
next
couple,
slides
too
what
that
looks
like
and
then
we've
had
over
that
1.7
million
impression
numbers
based
on
these
campaigns.
M
This
is
what
I
was
talking
about
from
an
idea
of
what
this
analytical
data
looks
like
and
we're
learning
it
so
bear
with
us,
because
this
is
not
our
expertise,
but
we're
trying
to
get
this
company
who's
been
great
to
work
with
to
obviously
train
us
along
the
way
too.
So
those
impressions
are
your
number
of
views.
That's
what
we're
seeing
year
to
date,
those
clicks
or
who's
actually
getting
this
popped
up
on
whatever
screen
they're
looking
at
and
they
click
on
this
ad.
M
The
conversions
obviously
is
when
we
get
them
to
take
some
sort
of
action
when
they
get
to
another
page
or
they
show,
from
a
digital
perspective,
some
kind
of
interest
in
the
deeper
dive.
You
know
getting
those
video
views.
So
obviously
we
have
some
really
great
videos,
and
we've
talked
about
that.
That's
what
epic
really
drove
for
us
was
getting
us
out
there
and
showing
what
we
have
to
offer
and
that's
getting
those
views
and
then
the
interactions
to
that
view
too.
M
What
are
we
getting
out
of
it
once
they
watch
this
video
and
then
you
know
the
the
form
fills.
You
know
how
many
times-
and
we
ask
them
to
give
us
this
from
from
the
the
web
page
that
you'll
see
where
we
ask
for
more
information
and
the
getting
paid
section
to
get
them
really
driven
into
the
interest
in
our
department.
You
know
who's
taking
that
next
step,
and
what
does
that
look
like
that?
M
Doesn't
always
turn
out
to
be
a
candidate
that
we
can
hire,
but
we
are
seeing
the
activity
and
that's
encouraging
and
then
those
outbound
clicks
come
come
a
little
differently,
but
from
the
what
you
see
there
on
the
marketing
list,
you
know
this
campaign's
targeting
people
who
have
also
already
visited,
and
so
it
it's
doing
what
is
done
to
all
of
us
when
we
look
to
buy
anything
from
Amazon
all
of
a
sudden
you're
getting
offers
from
five
different
companies
that
create
that
specific
thing
you
were
looking
to
try
to
buy.
M
M
So
from
a
summary
perspective,
this
is
just
giving
us
our
total
users.
Those
who
did
keyword,
searches
on
Google
Google,
is
one
of
the
the
largest
campaign
directions
that
we
go
and
we
took
that
advice
from
epic
who's
giving
us.
You
know
from
a
national
perspective,
where
they're
seeing
growth
and
driving
these
campaigns,
and
then
you
see
from
even
the
explanation
of
what
a
display
is
and
it's
on
that
board,
and
then
our
social
media
is
giving
us
those
users
that
come
over.
M
So
we
have
seen
an
increase,
as
the
smaller
demographic
section
shows
there.
It
follows
what
the
national
trend
is
from
youngest
to
oldest
and
where
we're
seeing
the
highest
level
of
activity
that
wasn't
surprising
to
us,
but
it
is.
It
is
pretty
even
across
that
board
all
the
way
up
to
the
age
of
44
into
that
next,
realm
of
45
to
54.
you're,
seeing
that
is
kind
of
standard,
and
that's
what
we're
hearing
from
them,
too,
is
when
they
drive
these
campaigns,
who
they're
searching
to
fill
these
voids
and
then
at
the
bottom.
M
There
you
have
the
number
of
page
views
and
then
the
Scrolls
that
we're
seeing
so
from
an
analytical
perspective
from
epic
they're,
giving
us
everything
and
more.
We
could
possibly
want
to
try
to
speak
to
what
is
or
isn't
happening
from
a
recruitment
stance
and
they're
getting
us
in
front
of
the
largest
majority
of
folks
that
we
think
that
we
can
see
now.
We've
compared
this
in
recent
months
with
what
we
could
also
see
from
a
from
a
non-digital
campaign
where
we
get
back
into
some.
M
Maybe
older,
School
ways
of
advertising
and
that's
Billboards
and
newspapers
and
magazines,
and
those
aren't
off
the
table
either
we're
just
looking
at
where
our
money
is
best
spent
and
where
we're
going
to
get
in
front
of
the
most
people.
That
gives
us
the
most
attention
to
the
web
page
and
then
the
most
clicks
over
to
seeing
if
somebody
is
actually
interested
in
coming
on
board
and
then
the
next
page
is
just
kind
of
a
summary
for
the
chief.
If
there's
any
questions
specifically
for
me,
I'm
happy
to
try
to
help.
C
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
I
greatly
appreciate
it,
we'll
ask
you
a
question.
Well,
you
said:
there's
117
people
that
started
to
fill
out
the
applications
and
I
may
not
have
the
intake
forms
and
and
then
didn't
complete
them
and
I
was
just
wondering
those
intake
forms.
Are
they
just
for
contact
information
or
do
they
have
questions
or
something
on
there
that
they
need
to
answer.
M
So
that
would
that's
on
your
slide
17.
if
you
want
to
go
back
just
so,
everyone
can
see
that
so
this
form
start
would
be
somebody
on
epics
that
web
page,
that
we
have
that
may
start
entering
anything
into
any
one
of
those
boxes
asking
for
additional
information
and
then
may
or
may
not
have
completed
that,
so
they
at
least
started
it
there.
We
don't,
we
will
never
know
why
they
didn't
complete
it
or
what
prevented
them
from
hitting
that
final
submit.
But
yes,
that
is
somebody
who
saw
what
they
saw.
M
C
M
C
Yes,
so
thank
you,
I
was
just
wanting
to
know
as
far
as
because,
that's
really
you
know
a
nice
percentage
of
people
that
actually
were
interested
and
I
was
just
wondering
how
many
of
them
actually
completed,
where
you
actually
heard
from
them,
and
it
was
able
to
get
their
contact
information.
It
was
able
to
reach
out.
M
Yes,
so
that
we
actually
requested
them,
and
they
had
never
done
that
prior
to
it,
but
we
were
trying
to
track
more
than
any
other
agency
they
were
working
with
and
we
wanted
to
know
when
they
clicked
that
button.
How
many
are
we
getting
and
that
ranges
because
we'll
get
feedback
through
the
site
and
it
ranges,
so
everyone
knows
very
clearly
from
overseas
interest
that
run
the
gamut
of
just
looking
for
a
job
to.
M
B
Appreciate
this
update,
I
think
you
know
Chief
at
one
point
you
were
the
one.
That
said,
not
only
are
we
competing
with
actually
and
you
just
shared
this.
Not
only
were
you
competing
with
other
police
departments
who
are
competing
with
other
fields
of
practice
and
so
I
think
I
mean
hiring
in
the
police
department
is
my
number
one
safety
priority.
B
We
I
can't
imagine
doing
my
job
with
one
hand
and
one
leg
tied
behind
my
back
and
I
know
that's
what
we're
doing
and
I'm
hurting
to
see
some
of
the
trends
going
in
a
safe
Direction,
and
we
still
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do,
and
it's
not
just
the
police
department
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
this
community
responder
program
update
from
the
fire
department
in
a
little
bit,
we've
talked
about
this
earlier
with
the
parks
department
and
how
building
Community
prevents
crimes.
B
We
never
even
knew
we'd,
never
even
be
able
to
track
so
I
think
there's
this
big
picture
that
has
been
nicely
brought
together
today
for
us
to
contextualize
all
of
it
and
I
just
I'm
really
happy
to
see
how
much
effort
and
thoroughness
we're
putting
into
the
hiring,
because
it's
it
has
it's
a
it's
a
it's,
my
top
priority
for
us
on
safety
and
I
know
a
lot
of
us
feel
that
as
well
any
other
thoughts
or
comments
on
this.
Please
presentation.
B
Like
I
said,
I
have
some
percolating
thoughts
around
just
to
kind
of
bounce
around
with
my
Council
women,
but
I
do
want
to
hear
the
community
responder
program.
I
feel
like
we're
getting
such
good
inputs
from
the
whole
span
of
things,
and
so
I'll
hold
those
for
a
little
bit
until
after
the
responder
program.
Presentation,
which
I
think
is
our
next
item.
So
thank
you
please,
and
we
will
shift
over
to
fire
chief
Patrick
crudup,
to
share
about
an
update
on
the
community
responder
program.
N
All
right,
good
afternoon,
good
afternoon,
good
afternoon,
Council
any
public
that
are
listing
in
and
colleagues
I'm
going
to
be,
providing
the
update
for
the
community
responder
pilot
program
and
they're
very
important
work
ahead
of
it
and
where
we
are
next
slide,
please
so
for
our
key
takeaways,
the
pilot
program,
where
proactively
support
existing
efforts
of
Buncombe,
County
and
other
partners,
the
plan
for
the
pilot
program
is
being
created
to
evaluate
the
best
way
to
positively
impact.
N
The
community
staff
for
the
program
is
on
track
with
sufficient
interest
among
current
AFB
members
and
our
new
class
that
just
graduated
we're
working
to
finalize
the
initial
plan
and
to
launch
that
pilot
program
next
slide,
please
so
our
vision.
This
will
be
a
multi-disciplinary
pilot
program
for
Focus
Collective
efforts
to
assist
persons
that
are
unsheltered
and
or
experiencing
addictions
or
experiencing
behavioral
health
issues
who
would
support
local
business
and
residential
areas
by
proactively
addressing
concerns
and
quality
of
life
issues
before
they
escalate.
So
that's
proactively,
reducing
some
of
the
numbers
we
may
have
out.
N
There
now
coordinate
with
Buncombe
County
to
respond
to
the
needs
within
the
city.
N
Next
slide,
please
for
information
gathering,
we're
doing
consistent,
check-ins
with
internal
and
external
Partners,
our
recommendations
from
the
National
Alliance
to
end
homelessness,
as
well
as
an
inner
city
trip
to
assess
low
barrier
shelters
in
Raleigh
and
Carrboro
our
resources.
We
have
18
initial
staff
interested
in
this
temporary
assignment,
which
is
a
great
number,
a
great
number
for
our
organization
and
with
our
30
new
graduates,
that's
going
to
help
us
make
that
happen.
Currently
we're
looking
into
Vehicles
equipment
and
office
space
needs
for
this
program.
N
Next
slide,
please.
Our
next
steps
for
the
program
is
selection
of
those
18
members.
Our
plan
is
to
select
five
five
members.
They
have
two
teams
of
two
with
a
manager
over
that
program
over
those
two
teams
of
two
and
those
teams
will
be
coordinating
with
Buncombe
County,
their
community
outreach
team
as
well
finalize
the
initial
plan
for
the
pilot
program,
that's
in
the
process
and
scheduling
complete
training
with
Buncombe
County
program,
so
that
training
is
our
crisis
intervention
team,
that's
a
training
that
the
county
is
doing.
N
That
would
help
us
tremendously
also,
and
then
our
final
step
is
to
launch
that
program.
Next
slide,
please
so
here's
our
tentative
timeline
that
rough
outline
of
the
plan
will
be
completed
in
the
next
couple
of
days.
We
want
to
implement
on
May
the
1st
and
begin
compiling
and
evaluating
data
from
that
two-month
pilot,
June,
30th
and
then
report
out
on
that
pilot
next
slide.
Please,
and
in
summary,
our
key
takeaways
again
be
proactive
support.
N
Existing
efforts
of
Buncombe,
County
and
other
partners
plan
the
pilot
programs
being
created
to
evaluate
best
way
to
impact
the
community
positively
and
staff
for
the
programs
on
track
with
18
members
from
afd
and
to
work
to
finalize
judicial
plan
and
launched
the
pilot
program
next
slide.
B
Thanks
Chief
I
can
jump
in
my
teammates
might
have
some
as
well
so
I'm
very
excited
for
this
pilot.
I
think
that
y'all
are
setting
it
up
and
being
really
thoughtful.
I
love
the
pilot
approach,
because
sometimes
you
can
think
things
through
all
you
want
ahead
of
time,
but
there's
nothing
like
learning,
while
doing
and
and
really
gaining
that
experience.
I'm
excited
to
see
the
connection
with
training
with
the
county.
Folks
who
have
been
doing
some
of
this
type
of
programming
I
think
that's
a
strong
start.
B
A
question
I
have
is
just
to
help
me
and
probably
the
public
as
well.
What
will
the
day
look
like
for
one
of
our
firefighters
who's
doing
this
like
what?
What
are
the
actions?
What
is
the
experience,
what
what
services
are
going
to
be
on
the
ground?
Again,
I
I've,
you
know
connected
with
the
counties,
Community,
paramedic
and
so
I
have
a
sense
of
what
the
community
paramedic
looks
like,
but
tell
me
a
little
bit
about
what
direct
service
looks
like
in
this
pilot
that
you
expect
that's.
N
A
good
question,
so
some
of
what
the
community
paramedics
are
doing
would
be
similar
and
to
be
clear,
I
think
the
community
paramedics
deals
a
lot
with
opioids.
They
also
have
a
community
outreach
team
which
are
Community
EMTs,
which
are
sort
of
closer
to
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
so
proactively,
reaching
out
making
those
connections
in
our
communities
to
see
what
needs
are
at
their
needs.
They
may
have
so
to
be
a
12
hour
shift.
N
The
plan
is
to
run
it
seven
days
a
week
between
ourselves
in
the
county,
that's
very
doable
and
to
make
those
connections
and
be
proactive
in
our
approach.
J
Is
there
any
way
for
the
community
to
be
involved
like
if
they
saw
something
of
interest
that
they
wanted
to
report
to
you
and
your
team?
Is
there
any?
Is
there
room
for
that?
Is
there
a
mechanism
for
them
to
get
on
the
front
end
with
you
all
and
number
two
is
their
a
possible
opportunity
for
community
volunteers
to
join
that
212
team.
N
Yeah,
so
with
that
multi-disciplinary
approach,
we
as
we
build
a
plan.
That
is
something
we
may
could
possibly
add
in,
as,
like
I
said
we're
building.
It
hadn't
thought
about
that
part
at
the
time,
but
it
is
something
we
could
take
into
consideration
as
far
as
how
they
reach
out
and
connect
the
community
paramedics.
They
have
a
line
which
they
they
call
in
and
there's
also
the
non-emergency
9-1-1
line
that
you
can
reach
out
and
the
team
will
be
able
to
be
reached
that
way
as
well.
E
If,
if
that
could
also
add
that
I
thank
you
for
Deputy
Chief
Products,
say
a
number
of
times
proactive,
proactive,
proactive,
which
means
that,
even
though
we're
talking,
probably
four
people,
essentially
it's
boats
on
the
ground,
it's
doing
the
surveillance
it
is.
It
is
literally
a
Outreach
initiative
and
being
able
to,
for
example,
hopefully
intervene
when
there
is
someone
sleeping
inside
of
a
doorway
so
that
we
are
able
to
get
that
person
the
the
help
and
assistance
that
they
need
and
so
that
the
business
owner
the
employees
are.
E
The
customer
is,
is
not
having
to
engage
that
individual,
not
having
the
appropriate,
probably
training,
to
be
able
to
to
manage
this
situation
appropriately
and
Patrick.
If
I
went
too
far,
let
me
know
because
it's
kind
of
a
vision
it
is
when
we
grow
up.
This
is
essentially
the
service
we
we
want
to
provide.
N
What
I'd
like
to
add,
also
is
so
for
the
needs
that
may
arise
from
our
community.
We
have
we're
in
contact.
I've
been
working
with
the
behavioral
health
Justice
Coalition,
which
would
be
like
a
central
hub
for
us
to
address
needs
for
those.
We
may
come
into
contact
in
our
proactive
approach.
B
Thanks
team,
another
question:
is
there
a
geographic
Focus
for
this
four-person
team.
N
So
I
may
well
I
main
focus
currently
for
this
pilot
program
would
be
the
CBD,
but
we
will
address
wherever
the
need
is
also.
B
And
then
a
follow-up
which
might
be
more
of
a
manager,
Campbell
question
is
so
this
is
a
pilot
and
we
will,
you
know,
run
this
in
May
and
June
and
then
do
some
learning
and
processing
and
consider
if
we
want
to
extend
it,
what
the
resources
would
look
like
and
that
timing
of
consideration
would
come
in
the
summer
time
and
so
just
kind
of
a
question
like
say
this
is
everything
our
vision
hopes
and
this
really
starts
to
fill
a
gap
and
and
it
it
fills
a
need
and
the
pilots
over
June
30..
B
Do
we
have
to
wait
till
next
Spring's
budget
cycle
to
consider
making
this
a
permanent
thing?
Do
we
I
know
with
Pilots?
You
can't
solve
everything
at
the
outset,
but
curious.
If
any
of
that
thinking
has
been
done
of
what
would
extending
or
growing
it
look
like,
and
how
does
that
play
with
budget
timing
and
resources.
E
Absolutely
we
have
done
a
little
bit
of
thinking
about
this
in
terms
of
funding
and
we
think
that
we
can
absorb
within
the
existing
budget
sum
of
the
expenses,
because
these
these
individuals
are
working
for
us
now
right.
So
we've
got
a
little
bit
of
Leverage
there,
but
we
from
a
staff
perspective
strongly
feel
that
the
opioid
settlement
resources
are
ideal
for
this
type
of
an
of
an
initiative
and
Patrick
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you
to
see.
If
you
have
any
additional
thoughts
or
if
you've
misrepresented.
J
Before
you
passed
on
the
opioid
settlement,
I'll
say
Amen
to
that
I,
don't
think
we
should
give
up
the
opportunity
to
use
the
opioid
settlement
money
to
fund
some
new
initiatives
that
we're
we're
starting
either
this
initiative
or
the
one
that
was
in
an
earlier
discussion,
around
violence
interruption.
N
I
think
I
missed
the
last
part
because
the
tones
were
going
off
here
in
the
station,
so
I
missed
the
last
one
I'm.
Sorry,
okay,.
E
Not
a
problem
we
were,
we
were
talking
about
opioid
settlement
that
funding
for
this
initiative.
E
We
may
be
able
to
use
some
of
that
funding
to
support
this,
because
we
think
there's
a
strong,
strong
linkage
between
the
two,
the
goals
of
that
settlement
and
from
a
service
delivery.
What
this
community
responded.
E
B
This
gives
me
hope.
I
think
that
there's
something
that
this
is
different
and
new
for
us
to
step
into
I
feel
like
y'all,
are
being
really
thoughtful,
and
you
know
we've
had
this
vision
of
reimagining,
Public,
Safety
and
like
this
is
part
of
what
it
looks
like
and
hearing
to
Tyrell
talk
about
community
building.
B
This
is
part
of
what
it
looks
like
I
feel
really
excited
amidst
sharing
the
fears
and
concerns
that
a
lot
of
our
community
members
have
about
violent
crime,
injury
increasing
so
I
I
think
that
good
things
are
yet
to
come
with
that,
an
idea
that
I've
been
mulling
around
and
I
know
Deborah.
We've
chat
about
this
briefly,
but
just
wanted
to
kind
of
talk
about
with
my
peers
on
Council
is
again
as
we're
seeing
across
three
different
departments.
B
Just
in
today's
call
that
are
directly
on
kind
of
Public
Safety
as
it
touches
crime
and
health
I'm
wondering
what
it
looks
like
in
the
next
12
months
to
18
months
like
where
are
we
Landing
with
all
of
this
work
and
I?
Also
think
about
the
council
Retreat.
We
just
had
where
there
was
a
lot
of
consensus
between
us
women
on
Council
about
what
Public
Safety
could
look
like,
and
we
did
some
real
good
work
around
goals
and
so
I'm
curious.
B
If,
if
we
could
ask
staff
to
continue
looking
across
the
Departments
and
look
at
the
goals
that
we
were
setting
during
the
retreat
and
kind
of
synthesize
those
goals
and
not
and
look
forward,
so
what
we're
hearing
today
is
a
lot
of
the
crime
data
where
we've
been
what
we've
been
working
on
today
and
what
we're
starting
to
Pilot
but
I
want
to
see
in
12
months.
Where
are
we
going
to
be
in
18
months?
Where
are
we
going
to
be?
What
is
that
strategy
for
Public
Safety
pulled
together?
B
Not
so
that
we
can
set
unrealistic
expectations
that
we're
never
going
to
meet,
but
so
that
we
can
put
a
flag
in
the
ground
today
and
say
we're
working
our
butts
off
across
this
entire
organization?
Here's
where
we're
going
to
try
here's
what
we're
going
to
look
towards
and
then
that
way
in
the
year
or
18
months,
depending
on
the
window,
that
feels
right.
We
can
really
track
our
progress
and
I
think
it
would
also
help
us.
You
know
to
have
that
lens
from
the
city
management
perspective,
where
it's
it's
across.
B
All
of
these
different
departments,
where
we're
doing
good
work,
I
mean
even
Street.
Lighting
plays
a
role
in
this.
You
know,
there's
so
many
places
that
our
organization
is
touching.
This
public
safety
is
not
just
a
police
department
function,
it's
really
in
every
place,
but
sometimes
it
can
be
hard
to
see
across
the
entire
organization
for
where
we're
all
roaming
in
that
same
direction,
so
kind
of
the
idea
is.
B
Does
this
feel
like
a
time
that
us
calling
to
the
organization
to
kind
of
pull
together
this
12-month
strategy
for
Public
Safety,
so
that
we
can
look
at
it?
We
can
get
creative
if
necessary,
with
our
policy
roles,
and
it
can
also
help
us
be
thinking
about
the
resourcing
that
we
that
we
make
decisions
on
over
time.
B
E
Campbell,
so,
okay,
because
I
I
appreciate
those
comments.
The
next
steps
for
what
the
work
that
you
all
did
at
the
retreat
is.
We
are
massaging
those
goals.
We
have
asked
every
department
head
to
look
at
the
goals,
look
internally
at
their
initiatives
and
make
those
linkages
for
us,
so
that
when
we
come
back
to
you
all
in
like
late
to
Mid
April,
we
will
be
providing
you
with
share
all
the
initiatives.
E
This
is
what
you
should
expect
in
terms
of
deliverables
over
the
next
12
months,
in
terms
of
your
priority,
around
reimagining,
Public,
Safety
or
reparations
or
whatever,
and
hopefully
we
will
also
be
connecting
those
resource
dots
to
the
goals
and
the
initiatives
that
I
think
chairperson
over
will
help
somewhat
answer
the
question,
but
we
may
need
to
do
some
refinement
in
terms
of
what
types
of
things
then
would
come
to
this
committee
that
you
all
you
know,
can
oversee
a
no
in
a
micromanagement
way,
but
in
terms
of
a
policy
effort,
an
initiative
that
will
come
back
to
the
committee.
E
B
B
Where
are
we
going
forward?
How
can
we
be
even
better
and
and
doing
that
with
a
real
lens
of
reality?
We
hear
a
lot.
We
have
a
lot
of
Staffing
challenges
across
every
department,
and
so
this
isn't
a
let's
set
policy
goals,
because
we're
politicians-
and
we
just
want
to
say
this-
is
about
being
part
of
the
team
to
say:
where
are
we
going
to
take
on
a
challenge
in
the
next
12
months?
B
How
can
we
all
be
rowing
in
the
same
direction,
from
our
seats
on
Council,
from
your
seats
and
boots
on
the
ground
on
staff
and
just
really
having
Clarity
so
that
we
we're
all
moving
in
the
same
direction?
I
think
that'll
be
really
really
constructive,
and
so
it
sounds
like
in
April
by
our
April
meeting.
B
That
will
be
able
to
take
a
look
at
that
at
the
public
safety
lens
here
and
probably
the
environment
one
as
well
since
this
that
also
connects.
So
we
can
kind
of
get
into
discussion
as
a
team
on
this
committee
into
what
that
looks
like
and
if
there's
any
policy
leadership
that
we
want
to
contribute
to
the
thinking
on
that
that
could
be
started
in
April.
E
C
E
Said,
oh,
my
goodness,
you
guys
are
working
on
all
of
this
stuff,
and
we
said
yes
and
you
all
were
like
well,
we
didn't
know,
and
that's
what
we're
going
to
try
to
help
address
is
the
not
only
elected
officials
knowing
what
we
are
doing
with
the
community
as
well,
because
we
hear
a
lot
we'll
know
what
you're
doing
tell
us
Deborah.
What
are
you
doing,
and
so
I
think
this
is
definitely
a
way
for
us
to
connect
just,
and
this
will
be
even
just
the
high
priority
things.
E
This
will
not
include
all
of
the
day-to-day
things
that
we
are
doing,
we're,
calling
it
an
organizational
work
program
where
everybody
is
growing
in
the
same
direction,
not
to
take
away
from
what
they
deliver
on
a
daily
basis.
But
how
can
they
contribute
to
addressing
these
priorities
that
you
all
have
established
for
us
over
the
next
level.
B
That's
really
that's
really
exciting.
I
love
that
we're
all
seeing
a
path
forward
together,
that'll
help.
You
know
things
to
just
as
you're
developing
that
to
keep
in
mind
you
know
I
think.
Sometimes
it's
very
easy
to
think
about
the
output,
not
the
outcome,
and
so
a
project
is
not
an
outcome.
Hiring
a
person
is
not
an
outcome
right.
Those
people
will
give
us
the
tools
to
do
X.
So
that's
always
just
a
good
flag.
I
think
vice
mayor,
Kilgore
or
councilwoman
Smith.
B
J
I
think
the
plan
that
Miss
Campbell
shared
I
call
you
miss
Campbell,
sometimes
I
just
can't
help
it,
but
that
Deborah
shared
with
us
I
think
that's
the
one
in
the
right
direction
and
I
think
it
gives
you
some
insight
about
how
each
department
is
working
to
put
on
put
those
initiatives
in
place
that
we
stated
where
our
top
priorities
but
I
think.
J
Another
thing
that
we
should
put
our
eye
on
as
a
committee
is
to
go
back
to
the
plan
of
activities
that
are
already
in
place
before
we
started
to
before
we
met
for
the
retreat
and
I
think,
then
we
can
consolidate
what's
being
done,
with
a
continuation
of
work
being
done
and
newer
ideas
or
even
the
things
that
we
discussed
today
to
figure
out
what
the
next
12
months
will
look
like.
E
B
J
I
want
to
go
back
to
a
thought
that
I
had
earlier,
while,
while
the
presentation
was
going
on
about
Community,
responders
I,
just
kind
of
see
an
opportunity
for
community
members
to
be
trained
on
how
to
respond
to
certain
activities
or
behaviors
in
front
of
their
in
front
of
their
business
or
if
they
encounter
something
that
might
be,
you
know
a
little
unsettling
for
them.
J
I'm,
just
wondering
if
that
type
of
training
is
available
to
community
members,
maybe
through
this
pilot
program
or
any
other
Avenue,
because
I
think
the
more
that
we
educate
our
community
and
train
them
on
how
to
respond.
Then
I
think
we
manage
the
issue
that
a
little
bit
better
and
and
not
always
blame
or
expect
another
person
to
show
up
it'll
be
a
all
hands
on
deck
type
of
effort.
That's
well
trained
and
everybody
is
informed.
What
to
do.
N
Yes,
ma'am
councilman
councilwoman
Smith,
so
there
is
a
in
the
development
of
this
program.
There
will
be
an
educational
piece
to
to
educate,
educate
our
community
members
as
well,
while
we're
out.
J
In
the
end,
just
to
take
that
a
little
bit
further
like
I,
stated
before
there
are
a
lot
of
our
community
members
who
have
backgrounds
in
crisis
response,
and
they
might
be
willing
to
volunteer
their
time
to
join
a
team.
J
B
It's
really
thoughtful
shnika
I,
think
that
you
know
it
just
pushes
the
conversation
further
out
again
of
everybody
can
be
part
of
this
solution
and
and
there's
times
that
it's
not
appropriate
for
an
average
citizen
right
so
like
in
that,
like.
Let's
have
that
conversation
with
the
folks
who
are
interested?
We
don't
want
anyone
in
a
dangerous
situation,
but
we'll
have
the
insight
into
like
what
are
the
healthy
boundaries
of
a
place.
B
That
is
really
great
for
someone
to
chip
in
and
places
that
you
need
to
call
a
professional
and
I
think
that
really
just
widens
the
circle.
B
B
B
B
We
are
not
at
our
best
point
ever
when
it
comes
to
Public,
Safety
and
I
see
us
moving
in
the
right
direction,
with
everybody's
really
hard
work.
So
congratulations
on
the
hard
work.
Let's
keep
it
up
really
looking
forward
to
looking
at
all
of
this
effort
through
goals
and
initiatives
in
April,
so
we
can
help
really
say
in
the
next
month
in
the
next
year.
Where
are
we
going
to
be?
Where
are
we
going
to
be
even
better,
and
we
can
really
great
that
future
we
need
so
with
that
I
will
adjourn
thanks.