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From YouTube: What's Up AVL! – Episode 11
Description
July 11, 2022
Sam Parada, Communication Specialist with the City of Asheville, discusses Art in the Heart, the new Pack Square Plaza Visioning and Improvements project with Stephanie Dahl, Urban Design and Place Strategies Division Manager, and Karli Stephenson, Urban Designer for the City.
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B
B
C
C
We
look
at
urban
design
for
neighborhoods
we're
very
interested,
especially
carly,
and
I
in
public
spaces
and
how
they
are
not
only
planned
but
managed
and
maintained,
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about.
Well,
maybe
I'll.
Just
let
carly
introduce
herself
first
and
then
I'll
talk
about
some
of
our
key
projects
that
sound
all
right.
Yeah
go.
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C
Sure
so,
just
some
of
the
types
of
things
that
the
planning
and
urban
design
department
at
the
city
focuses
on
one
of
them
is
implementing.
The
community's
vision
is
expressed
in
the
living
asheville
comprehensive
plan.
So
as
much
as
you
know,
it's
funny
because
as
urban
planners
or
you
know,
civic
nerds,
we
all
know
that
we
have
a
comprehensive
plan
and
we
worked
hard
with
a
variety
of
community
members
to
document
what
it
is
that
they
would
like
the
city
to
be
like
in
the
next.
You
know
two
to
thirty
years.
C
A
lot
of
people
don't
know
about
it.
So
that
is
something
I
would
also
just
recommend
that
folks,
if
they're
interested
in
understanding
where
we're
trying
to
go
as
a
community
in
the
future,
we've
recorded
that
general
vision.
So,
in
addition
to
council's
strategic
goals,
we
have
this
long-range
plan.
It's
called
living
asheville.
You
can
just
do
an
internet
web
search
and
look
at
that.
So
that's
our
job
is
to
implement
it.
We
also
have
prioritized
this
year
addressing
what
folks
call
the
missing
middle
in
housing.
C
So
this
is
acknowledging
that
we
have
a
lot
of
development
of
high-end
housing
here
and
we
actually
have
a
quite
significant
development
of
regulated,
affordable
housing
in
our
area,
but
what's
not
happening,
is
kind
of
that
smaller
scale,
middle
housing
for
rest
of
people
in
the
community,
and
that
can
look
like
anything
from
you
know:
a
small
multi-family
apartment
building
to
a
duplex
or
even
just
smaller
homes.
You
know
that
are
infilled
in
different
communities
and
so
we're
looking
at
how
to
remove
barriers
to
develop
those
types
of
housing
choices.
C
We're
also
going
to
be
starting
work
with
the
community
to
develop
a
concept
plan
for
patton
avenue
which
we're
sitting
on
right
now.
So
everything
from
you
know
this.
This
I-26
project
is
it's
coming
at
us.
You
know
if
you
drive
up
26
every
day.
You
know
that
that
construction's
happening
and
it's
just
going
to
keep
moving
north
and
eventually
it'll,
get
too
close
to
our
downtown.
So
everything
from
what
some
people
call
it
the
smokey
park
bridge
some
people,
call
it
the
big
bridge,
but
everything
from
what's
really
the
captain
bowen
bridge
east.
C
All
the
way
out
here
to
pritchard
park,
we'll
work
with
the
community
to
talk
about
like
what
the
land
use,
transportation,
social,
cultural
patterns.
All
of
that
should
look
like
for
the
next
30
years
and
then
the
last
big
project
we're
working
on
is
a
good
segue
for
our
main
topic
today,
which
is
the
re-envisioning
of
pack
square
plaza
and
pack
square
plaza,
is
the
main
city
square
for
the
for
asheville's
downtown.
C
That's
why
we're
calling
carly's
program
the
art
in
the
heart,
but
it's
a
it's
a
response
and
I
want
to
say
the
continuing
the
packs
where
visioning
is
a
continuing
effort.
It
was
really
spurred
by
the
community's
response
all
over
the
world,
to
the
murder
of
george
floyd
and
other
black
and
brown
people
and
taking
a
look
at
how
our
physical
environment
shapes
and
supports
racism.
C
We
had
a
joint
city
county,
advanced
monument
task
force,
really
take
a
hard
look
at
just
the
vance
monument
that
were
asked
by
the
city
and
county
elected
officials
to
say:
should
it
stay
or
should
it
go,
they
did
an
amazing
job.
They
did
tons
of
research
interviewed
a
lot
of
people.
In
the
end,
they
made
a
recommendation
that
the
vance
monument
should
be
removed,
and
so,
in
march
of
last
year,
city,
council
and
the
city
is
the
owner
of
the
actual
monument
directed
that
it
be
removed.
C
Most
people
know
at
this
point
that
it's
been
substantially
removed,
but
because
of
a
lot
of
different
legal
challenges,
it
hasn't
been
completely
removed.
Regardless
of
that,
it's
really
important
that,
as
directed
by
city
council
and
the
county
commission,
we
come
together
as
a
community
and
talk
about
what
inclusive
public
spaces
really
look
like.
So
you
know
who
makes
money
off
of
a
public
space
who
feels
welcome
in
a
public
space.
How
are
different
cultures
expressed
in
that
public
space?
C
Members
of
the
eastern
vienna
cherokee
indians,
who
have
you
know
they
are.
This
is
unseated
cherokee
territory
and
we
really
want
to
honor
that,
to
you
know,
take
a
look
and
end
up
well,
I
should
wrap
this
up.
What
we're
going
to
end
up
here
with
is
a
vision
document
and
that
vision
document
is
going
to
do
several
things.
It's
going
to
it's
going
to
narrate
what
this
place
could
look
like
and
how
it's
more
inclusive
for
everybody,
people
with
disabilities
and
what
have
you?
C
But
it's
also
going
to
help
us
as
a
community,
understand,
what's
what's
actually
doable
and
workable
and
how
we
can
get
there
through
partnerships,
because
we
can
dream
big.
But
if
we
don't
have
the
money
and
the
time
and
the
resources
to
do
all
this
stuff,
then
we're
probably
failed
so
that
that
is-
and
I'm
sorry
it's
not
in
a
nutshell.
That
was
a
long
explanation,
but.
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B
I
just
moved
to
ivy
last
year
and
I've
seen
pac
square
plaza
park,
just
change
constantly
from
the
monument
being
taken
down
to
the
base
to
different
street
arts
happening
there,
and
I
I
realize
now
that
what
you
do
is
going
to
be
a
long
overhaul
for
years
to
come,
and
it
sounds
something
like
you're,
just
creating
just
running
with
a
baton
to
pass
it
down
to
the
next
person
and
just
keep
it
going
forever
and
that
is
set
in
ripple
for
all
of
you.
So.
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B
B
C
The
first
thing
is
that
we
started
working
with
some
existing
boards
and
commissions
people
who
are
already
involved
in
a
real
civic
way
to
get
them
engaged
on
the
project.
So
the
one
of
them
is
the
public
art
and
cultural
commission
of
the
city
of
asheville,
and
then
the
other
one
is
friends
of
buncombe
county
special
collection
with
buncombe
county
and
that's
their
supporters
of
the
library.
C
C
See
the
carolina
record
shop,
it's
very
cool
we,
so
we've
been
working
with
her
and
members
of
that
group
to
create
a
historical
database
for
that
anyone
can
access
that
tells
like
alternative
or
tr.
You
know,
narratives
ones
that
you
may
have
not
actually
heard,
but
that
are
true
and
recorded
about
the
history
of
the
plaza
area
from
as
far
back
as
we
can
find
those
histories.
C
So
we've
been
working
on
that
and
we
also
have
engaged
several
members
of
like,
I
would
say,
younger
people
by
far
than
me
to
try
to
try
to
create
a
foundation
for
youth
engagement,
which
is
really
important
in
this.
So
the
first
thing
we
did
is
we
engaged
with
some
folks
from
unc
chapel
hill.
They
are,
they
just
finished
their
first
year
of
college
they're
called
morehead,
kane
scholars
and
in
their
program
they
are
required
after
their
first
year
to
do
a
civic
collaboration
summer.
C
They
came
here.
We
embedded
them
in
our
in
our
pre-planning
work
and
we
had
them
interview-
everybody
from
say
members
of
housing
authority,
communities
to
downtown
developers
and
get
an
idea
of
what
people
really
felt
like
about
our
downtown
and
inclusivity
and
they're.
Developing
a
report
they're
leaving
this
week,
they've
been
here
with
us
for
for
a
couple
months
now,
but
they
basically
did
their
own
work
to
figure
out
like
why.
C
C
But
as
we
kick
off
our
communication
and
engagement
planning,
they
are
also
gonna
they're,
helping
us
figure
out
the
ways
to
really
bring
people
in
who
are
these
people
are
going
to
basically
own
or
be
the
users
of
pac
square
more
in
the
future
than
any
of
us
will.
So
we
we
recognize
that
that
is
it's
important
to
concentrate
on
that.
So
you
know
back
to
the
public,
art
and
cultural
commission.
We
started
working
with
them,
gosh
carly's
fairly
new,
but
we
started
working
with
him.
C
D
D
D
What
these
monuments
might
look
like
or
should
look
like,
and
it
really
provoked
a
lot
of
critical
conversations
around
what
that
means
for
pack
square
plaza
and,
as
we
were
talking,
the
temporary
public
art
program
came
into
being
as
being
a
great
and
unique
way
to
engage
the
community
and
to
learn
more
from
our
artists,
which
there
are
so
many
amazing
artists
in
this
region
and
in
asheville
in
particular,
is
kind
of
known
for
that.
So
it's
like.
Let's
let
our
artist
guard
guide
these
conversations
around
these
difficult
topics
that
everybody
wants
to
talk
about.
D
Yeah
we
want
artists
to
you,
know
from
all
different
backgrounds
and
cultures
to
come
in
and
through
their
art,
tell
their
story,
and
that
might
be.
You
know,
histories
that
people
haven't
heard
at
all
or
hasn't
been
represented
in
pack
square
plaza
up
to
this
point
so
or
it
could
be
something
visual
that
speaks
about
the
way
that
the
space
is
organized
or
maybe
where
certain
like
corners
aren't
activated
and
they
they
could
be.
You
know,
so
it
can
be.
It's
a
mixture
of
visual
storytelling
and
engagement.
B
D
For
artists
went
out
on
may
25th
and
the
original
deadline
for
applications
was
june
21st,
but
we
ended
up
extending
that
to
august
1st.
So
now
we're
looking
for
all
applications
to
be
in
by
august
1st
at
5
pm,
and
we
will
be
selecting
up
to
10
artists,
though
we
have
different
categories
or
longevities.
D
D
It
can
be.
You
know
a
light
show
projection.
It
could
be
something
that
people
come
in
and
you
know
participate
in.
It
could
be
an
interactive
session
where
people
are
moving
around
blocks
or
building
things
together,
and
you
know
learning
through
that
experience.
So
the
categories
of
longevities
reflect
that.
So
we
have
categories
for
one
to
two
days.
D
We
have
a
category
for
one
to
two
weeks
and
then
we
have
a
category
for
one
to
three
months
and
those
kind
of
reflect
those
different
art
forms.
So
if
you're
wanting
to
do
a
performance
or
this
sort
of
like
interactive
experience,
it
might
be
the
one
or
two
day
category
and
we're
going
to
allow
or
select
more
of
those
types
of
projects
or
experiences.
D
D
The
theme
is
social
equity
and
inclusion,
and
we're
also
asking
each
artist
through
their
proposal
to
answer
two
questions.
One
is
how
should
pack
square
plaza,
look
and
feel
in
the
future,
and
then
what
stories
or
histories
have
not
been
represented
in
this
space?
Up
to
this
point,
so
all
proposals
are
answering
those
questions
through
their.
B
Now
you
told
me
before
we
started
the
show
that
we
already
have
a
lot
of
people
signed
up
to
as
applicants
for
this.
So
this
is
a
quick
message
to
everyone
that
they're
listening.
If
you
know
anyone
who
wants
to
participate
or
if
you
want
to
submit
your
arts
and
app
and
apply,
you
can
do
it
at
ashevillenc.gov,
slash
public
art
and
you
know
hurry
up.
You
have
one
month,
yeah
you
have
one
month
left
over.
So
please
join
us
and
let
your
voice
speak
about
what
asheville
is
to
you.
D
Yeah,
we
definitely
want
to
hear
from
you
and,
if
you
have,
you
know,
definitely
go
to
the
asheville
nc.gov
public
art.
You
can
also
reach
out
to
me
carly
stevenson
at
the
city
of
asheville,
it's
kay
stevenson
at
ashevillenc.gov
and
I'm
happy
to
speak
with
you
and
talk
through
any
questions.
You
might
have
and
I'll
just
say
a
couple
quick
more
thing,
a
couple,
quick
things
that
we
are
offering
artist
stipends
to
applicants,
and
that
is
an
amount
from
500
to
1500.
D
And
then
we
have
four
locations
that
are
identified
in
the
plaza
kind
of
pre-pre-identified
as
prime
locations
for
public
art,
but
we're
allowing
artists
to
select
anywhere
in
the
plaza
that
they
might
be
inspired
by
we'll
we'll
work
with
them
and
try
to
accommodate
a
different
location.
If
one
is
identified
and
we're
also
looking
at
including
a
fifth
location
into
the
scope
of
locations,
and
this
one
is
at
the
corner
of
eagle
street
and
south
market
street
and
will
be
nestled
in
the
block.
B
B
C
C
So,
if
you
look
at,
if
you
look
at
the
block-
and
you
know
how
it's
really
thriving
re-emerging
place
for
multiculturalism-
it's
got
our
you
know
most
important
cultural
institution
at
the
ymi
sitting
right
there
going
through
a
massive
renovation.
It's
a
good
time
for
us
to
think
about.
When
people
come
into
the
heart
of
our
downtown,
are
they
provided
an
opportunity
to
come
into
the
heart
of
our
black
downtown.
B
And
this
is
such
an
important
topic.
You
know
we
asheville
has
gone
through
so
many
changes
since
its
inception
and
it's,
I
think,
it's
time
to
start
showcasing
what
real
asheville
looks
like
you
know:
it's
not
just
tourism
for
the
people
who
live
here.
The
people
who've
built
a
history
within
the
city,
and
that,
sadly,
is
bringing
us
to
an
end
about
what
art
in
the
heart
is.
Please
apply.
B
We
want
to
see
your
art,
we
want
to
hear
your
voice
and
again
you
can
apply
at
ashevillenc.gov,
public
art
and
in
the
topic
of
equity
and
inclusion
and
engagement.
Please
don't
forget
to
go
to
our
website
ashevillenc.gov
and
click
on
the
engagement
tab
to
learn
how
to
engage
with
us
better.
We
just
released
your
voice,
your
choice,
and
this
is
for
the
voices
that
have
been
left
out
of
the
conversation
the
longest
to
make
an
impact
and
talk
about
projects
that
us
here
in
the
city
are
working
on.
You
can
leave
comments.
B
B
B
Well,
that's
all
the
time
we
have
for
today
for
what's
up
asheville.
Thank
you
so
much
for
listening
and
please
don't
forget
to
participate
in
the
different
projects
that
we
have
here
at
the
city
and
stay
informed
about
our
latest
news
visit
our
website
at
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