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Description
Por Fran Méndez.
En esta charla os contaré cómo ha sido mi experiencia creando la iniciativa AsyncAPI."¿Cómo empezó todo? ¿En qué momento pasó de ser un simple proyecto personal a un estándar? ¿Cómo hiciste para que se convirtiera en un estándar? ¿Cómo hiciste para crear una comunidad alrededor del proyecto? ¿Por qué se interesaron las empresas y de qué manera? ¿Cómo se gobierna un proyecto de tal envergadura? ¿Qué problemas te has encontrado por el camino?" Todas estas (y más) son preguntas que me encuentro a menudo y que responderé durante la charla. El formato será ameno y divertido, sin entrar demasiado en detalles técnicos y más orientado a contar la historia.Aparte de la historia, de esta charla podrás aprender de mis pocos aciertos, muchos errores y múltiples situaciones —cuanto menos— curiosas y como afrontarlas. Te espero!
📅 Puedes ver el programa completo en nuestra web: https://t3chfest.es/2023/programa
A
Well,
good
afternoon.
I
hope
you
all
ate
very
well
and
thank
you
all
for
coming
to
spend
this
day
with
us.
I'm
going
to
take
advantage
of
a
bit
of
advertising,.
You
know
what
Mario
said
at
the
welcome,.
We
need
you
to
accompany
us
throughout
the
event.
So,
it's
a
very
good
time
after
lunch
to
tweet
and
press
it
again
there,
on
Twitter
and
in
the
different
networks,.
Remember
that
hashtages
2023
is
worth,.
Let's
start.
Well,
this
afternoon
of
Track
2
with
Frank
We
already
have
it
here
prepared,.
C
C
Here,
where,
on
the
site
higher
I'm
up
there,
okay,
And
you'll,
say
And,
what
are
you
doing
there?
Fran
I
have
no
idea,
I,
don't
even
know
how
I
got
there.
I
only
know
that
they
have
paid
me
for
the
business
trip.
They
have
paid
me
no
telefive
stars.
They
do
not
stop
entertaining
me
with
dinners
and
parties
and
hold
meetings,
and
all
this
is
the
mule
soft
company
in
cells.
So
you
do
n't
know
it
and
it's
the
tallest
skyscraper
in
San
Francisco.
C
C
'm
from
Badajoz
I'm
from
the
I'm
hesitating
Well
then
I'm
there.
It
turns
out
that
they
make
me
an
offer
At
that
time
I
was
a
programmer
at
New
Relic
and
they
offered
me
to
join
mule
soft
to
be
a
director
and
run
my
own
project
there,,
my
own
project,,
as
you
know,,
is
restless,
because
my
head
will
obviously
explode,
the
first
question
that
comes
to
mind
It's.
What
the
hell
is
happening,
What
the
hell
is
happening.
Why
are
these
people
offering
me
gold
and
Moors?
C
Well,
I'm,
going
to
tell
you
a
little
bit.
all
this
in
the
year,
2016
at
the
end
of
2016
and
I
was
working
in
a
company
in
a
small
startup
in
Barcelona,
together
with
a
colleague,
And
well,,
it
was
a
startup
with
a
product
around
apis
and
such
to
do
things
with
apis.
It
was
called
later,
It
came
to
be
called
hitch
and
Well,.
The
important
thing
here,,
let's
say
in
history,,
is
that
our
systems
architecture
has
a
microservices
architecture,
and
this
microservices
architecture
was
communicated
by
messaging
By.
C
A
messaging
broker
By
back
then
in
revit.
What
we
were
using
if
you
are
familiar
fine,
if
not
don't
worry,
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
story.
But
I'll
put
you
in
a
situation
Okay
then
Well
I
needed
to
document
these
Sorry
micro
And.
Now
I
was
documenting
those
micro
services
because
it
happened
to
us
that
we
created
one
and
another
one
and
another
is
valid
continuously
and
they
were
almost
exact
clones
of
each
other
and
it
was
not
documented
anywhere,
and
this
was
a
mess.
Ok,
And.
C
We
were
a
small
company
and
we
were
getting
more
and
more
services.
So
I,
created
I,
went
to
I,
went
to
the
project,
opening
that
is
also
usually
known
as
swagger
and
I
read
the
entire
specification
from
top
to
bottom
from
the
beginning
to
the
end,
and
I
can
tell
you
that
it
is
crazy,
even
for
those
who
make
it
I
read
it
several
times
and
I
began
to
change
things
to
that.
C
That
could
be
worth
to
me
for
what
I
had
to
do
At
that
time,
so
that
what
was
my
purpose
and
I
at
that
time,
and
now
also
everything
I
do
I.
Do
free
software
I,
don't
care
if
it
is
half
finished.
I
do
n't
care
if
it
doesn't
have
a
name,
that
goes
here.
It
is
maybe
you
can
see
my
hard
drive.
I,
don't
have
my
own
hard
drive
with
things
on
my
computer
that
aren't
anywhere
else
if
I
have.
If
my
computer
is
there,
The
project
is
code.
C
There
is
my
guitar,
and
so
it
says
so
then
I
started
going
to
conferences
at
they
invited
me
to
some
conferences
and
I
started
talking
about
the
project.
I
tried
to
talk
a
lot
to
say
well,
because
I
think
this
could
be
something
interesting
and
they
invited
me
to
the
Nordic
conference
and
Piece
in
stockholm.
My
first
time,
speaking
outside
and
I,
was
trembling
very
nervous.
I
made
the
biggest
mistake.
C
It
sounds
very
epic,:
right?
How
am
I
going
to
do
this?
I'm
going
to
have
everyone
come
world.
We
are
going
to
do
together,
Cri
Cri
Cri,
and
he
was
talking
to
the
wall.
Basically,
I
was
in
the
slack
that
today,
I
did
I,
don't
know
what
he
added
to
it.
I,
don't
know
what
they
say.
There
is
today,
In
fact:
I,
don't
know
how
much
today
he
was
talking
No
one
was
me:
there
were
only
10
colleagues.
There.
Half
of
them
were
from
my
company
when
I
was
going
to
post
something
they
already
knew.
C
C
C
No
Well,
then
immediately.
The
first
thing
that
comes
to
mind
is
I
have
to
check
the
code
of
everything
I've
written
and
everything
I've
done,
because
what
I've
uploaded
there?
That's,
what
slack
is
seeing?
You
know
this
isn't
cool
at
all.
I
thought,
I
was
alone
and
then
well.
I
was
doing
things
like
that,,
it
doesn't
matter,
I'll
fix
it
and
of
course,,
no,
no,
no,
no
I
hadn't
fixed
it.
Obviously
And
then
I
was
trying
to
think
I
said:
Well
I
have
to
review
this
I
have
to
understand
How.
To
do
this.
C
C
I
got
burned,
I
got
burned
a
lot
for
almost
a
year.
I
was
trying
to
do
something
all
the
time
they
say
during
the
year.
I
think
that
in
2000,
almost
in
2018,
yes,
almost
the
entire
2018
until
the
summer
that
It's,
when
this
happens
in
May
from
then
on
trying
to
shape
the
project
but
I
wasn't
able
I
wasn't
able
it
wasn't
a
blockage,
it
was
a
feeling
of
everything.
I
was
doing.
It's
like
no
I
can't
do
this
because
it
doesn't
have
enough
quality.
C
C
C
C
I'm
painful
but
I,
don't
care
I
had
a
good
time.
I
spent
hours
there
and
they
say
what
happens
I,
don't
care
I,
can't
I,
can't
anymore
I
can't
anymore
this
year.
It's
also
the
year.
I
got
married
on
top
of
that
summer.
And
then
I,
decided
I
said,
look
I
can't
anymore.
If
someone
wants
something
to
contribute
that
I
have
this
here
in
the
open,
and
this
is
a
community
project
and
there
is
no
community
here.
C
C
Colleagues
who
came
to
celebrate
and
such
And
well,,
why
am
I
telling
you
this,
because
when
I
was
about
to
take
the
plane
to
go
to
Croatia
and
Slovenia,
suddenly
I
had
to
cut
my
vacation
short
Call
my
manager
and
tell
him
hey
I,
know:
I
asked
you
I'm
going
to
be
on
vacation
for
a
month,
but
it's
going
to
be
It's
going
to
be
two
weeks.
Okay,
I'll
be
back
two
weeks
earlier,
So.
Do
me
the
favor
of
changing
the
vacation
so
that
I
can
come
back
sooner.
C
The
reason
for
that
last
minute
change
was
that
they
had
written
to
me
an
email.
They
wrote
me
an
email
from
some
programmers
from
miel
social
arquitectos
from
celforce
who
wanted
to
talk
to
me
and
I
said
OK,.
Let's
talk
what
the
problem
is.
We
make
a
video
call?
No,
no!
No!
No!
No!
No!
We
don't
want
to
talk
to
you
in
person.
Ok,
we
want
to
talk
with
you
in
person,
because
this
is
important
and
I
say
Well,
then
obviously
I'm
going.
B
C
To
pay
for
the
trip,
because
I
can't
afford
to
go
to
San
Francisco
right
now,
because
it's
obviously
out
of
my
budget?
Yes,
yes!
Yes!
Yes!
Yes!
Yes!
Yes!
Yes,
yes!
Without
problem,
they
wanted
to
invest.
Ok,
they
wanted
to
invest
I,
don't
really
know
what
they
wanted
to
invest
or
how
they
wanted
to
invest,
but
they
wanted
to.
A
C
C
The
opportunity
to
visit
it
one
day,
I
recommend
it.
Obviously
it
wasn't
there.
This
is
the
this.
Is
the
lobby
on
the
top
floor,
I
think
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
it's
a
very
cool
place.
It's
open,
I
think
it's
there,
I,
don't
know
if
it's
open
for
visitors
But,
it
could
be,
but
it
was
like
two
or
three
floors
below
in
one
in
an
office.
Okay,
I
want
you
to
get
into
that
situation
right
now
and
you're
there
in
the
office
with
sharks,
okay
with
business
sharks.
What
are
you
saying
I
what
I
do?
C
Here,
right,
as
I
told
you
before,,
with
the
paid
trip,
with
first-class
parties,
parties,
everywhere,
parties
of
tranquility,
also
that
party,
I
mean
of
scenes,
and
then,
of
course,
I
stay
a
bit
lost
like
what
these
people
want,.
Why
do
they
want
Why,
so
much
kindness,
Why,
so
much
kindness,
Why,
so
much
spending
on
my
person.
If
the
project
is
in
twine,
if
you
have
it
there,
man
take
it,
take
it
do
what
you
want
to
do
what
they
want.
Well,
they
want
everything.
C
C
C
The
meetings
have
already
started,
okay,
The
third
day
was
already
as
the
important
meetings
of
we
are
going
to
make
a
decision
now
and
I,
see
myself
there
in
the
office
of
the
Milford
cto
talking
with
the
cto
and
with
the
ceo
of,
and
he
had
given
me
his
phone
number
and
we
were
all
on
WhatsApp.
We
were
all
talking
on
WhatsApp
and
everything,
and
he
came
to
repeat
to
me
that
he
wanted
me
to
join,
builds
off.
C
C
C
I
had
to
go
to
the
bathroom,
plus
it's
that
on
top
of
that,
well,
on
top
of
that,
I
have
Crohn's
disease,,
which,
if
you
don't
know,
it's
on
top
of
that.
stress,
affects
the
intestine
a
lot
between
this
cause.
Then
stress
was
on
top
of
the
building
and
you
can
imagine
and
I
had
rejected.
I
had
already
thought
of
going
to
live
downstairs
with
my
wife,
I
had
no
children
or
anything
you
offer
me
a
salary
from
San
Francisco
as
a
director
in
badajoz
budget,
so
that
I
have
a
team
working
on
my
project.
C
C
I
got
sick
of
crying.
It
made
me
cry,
I,
sick
of
crying
in
that
one
in
that
bathroom
you
make
us
An.
Idea,
I
want
to
tell
you
about
today's
talk.
In
fact,,
as
you
can
see,
he's
not
doing
anything.
Technical,
he's
not
doing
anything
about
what
you
do
without
there
being
many
here,.
You
won't
even
know
what
he
does,,
but
it
doesn't
matter
because
that's
not
what
it's
about.
It's
really
about.
You
have
a
project
that
suddenly
hits
it
and
you
don't
know
very
well.
Why,
and
you
have
to
deal
with
that,
why?
C
A
C
I,
don't
like
big
companies,
I,
don't
like
the
money.
These
rich
people
think
that
with
money
they
can
buy
everything
talking
badly
and
ending.
Soon.
I
have
the
balls
a
lot
Okay,
so
they
had
come
to
me
with
a
lot
of
money
and
all
they
wanted
was
the
project
they
didn't
care
about
the
project
they
wanted
that
project
to
be
theirs.
Why
Because?
If
They
gave
money
because
the
money
was
theirs,?
True,
they
wanted
the
intellectual
property.
They
wanted.
Anything
goes
And.
As
I
said.
C
C
Having
the
right
over
the
project
to
decide
what
is
done
in
the
project
and
what
is
not
done
is
the
responsibility
of
the
community
itself,,
which
is
the
one
that
is
contributing,,
not
the
one
that
puts
in
the
most
money,
because,
on
the
other
hand,
it
is
for
them
to
put
a
million
dollars
two
million
dollars.
10
million
dollars
doesn't
mean
anything
it's
like.
If
you
go
and
put
take,
10
bucks.
You
know
well
well
it's
something,
but
it's
not
that
much
either,
because
for
them
it's
nothing.
So
for
me
it
was.
C
E
C
Table
but
I
hadn't
signed
it.
So,
of
course,
my
idea
of
all
this
was
It
has
to
be
the
community,.
It
has
to
be
open,
government.
Okay,.
This
is
very
important,
and
I
want
this.
To
always.
Stick
in
your
mind
when
you
talk
about
free,
Open,
Source,
software,
you're,
not
always
talking
about
open
government.
Okay,,
there
are
many,
many
projects.
in
which
to
get
their
hands
on.
It
is
almost
impossible
or
impossible.
C
It
is
controlled
by
a
few
companies
or
it
is
controlled
by
a
few
individuals,
and
they
do
not
let
anyone
get
hurt
there
So.
Yes,
the
code
is
available,
but
if
I
can't,
if
I
can't
affect
your
roadmap,
if
I
can't
affect
how
that
project
will
evolve,
if
I
can't
get
involved
in
it
You're
the
only
thing
you
want
So,
it's
a
free
programmer,
is
what
you're
looking
for
you're
looking
for
someone
to
look
for
you
and
make
you
the
code
for
free
and
that's
why
you
put
it
in
free
truth,
And.
C
This
is
something
that
I
wanted
to
avoid
at
all
costs.
This
is
a
community
project
and
decisions
are
made
in
community
and
it
is
open
government
and
it
is
not
the
one
who
puts
up
the
money,
and
here
transparency
has
to
be
radical
everything
that
is
done.
All
the
conversations
have
to
be
documented,
that
all
the
decisions
that
are
made
have
to
be
documented
in
writing.
Ok,
and
in
fact,
we
have
a
norm
in
the
project
In
the
meetings.
No
decisions
are
made.
No
decisions
are
made.
C
The
meetings
are
to
help
us
understand
each
other
faster
to
make
it
faster,
easier,
and
such,,
but
the
meetings
are
not
made,.
No
decision
is
made,,
it
is
left
to
talk,,
it
goes
to
the
guitartup
ISO
or
to
the
guitartup
discussion,
or
to
the
public.
It
is
from
github,,
which
is
normally
in
this
case,
and
it
is
decided
there
and
a
digital
trace
is
left
of
such
a
day.
Such
a
person
said
I.
Give
Ok
to
This
is
fine
And
if
tomorrow,
I
want
to
Search
for
what
happened.
Why
was
that
done?
C
Two
years
ago,
I
am
going
to
find
it
in
a
video
indexing.
A
video
is
more
__
]
up
And
more
so,
if
he's
recording,
us,
right,,
that's
it.
So.
My
idea
was
to
create
that
type
of
open
government
community
in
which
the
owner
is
the
community,
and
we
achieved
it,
wow,.
If
we
have
achieved
it,,
we
have
achieved
it,,
but
a
lot
in
October
2020
I'm
talking
to
He,
who
is
now
my
manager
and
friend,
Kim
Lane,
for
people
who
are
on
the
subject
of
apis
is
very
well
known.
C
To
those
who
do
not
know
him
is
how
he
is
in
this
sector.
He
is
the
reference
head
for
many
years.
He
is
the
person
who
knows
about
apis
in
the
world
is
worth
It's,
not
the
one,.
It's
not
the
only
one,,
but
it's
the
most
visible
head
Well,
from
time
to
time,.
He
and
I
had
meetings
to
see
how
the
project
was
going
to
talk
a
little
about
it.
And.
C
Not
doing
badly
I
was
doing
quite
well,
In
fact,
in
fact,
that
nothing
more
than
what
he
earns
now,
but
it
was
not
going
badly
for
me,
but
he
gave
me
to
hire
what
is
now
my
friend
Lucas
Lucas,
with
Ricky
from
Poland
and
from
the
name.
I
think
it
is
more
or
less
intuited
and
he
was
the
biggest
contributor
that
came
after
me.
The
uncle
who
contributes
the
most
to
the
project,
and
he
gave
me
to
hire
him
and
make
him
leave
the
company.
He
was
working
for,
but
of
course,
on
top
of
that,.
C
He
also
gave
me
to
hire
my
wife
to
make
the
videos
and
such,
she
is
dedicated
to
making
videos
and
such
as
carrying
social
networks.
And
such
But,
of
course,
the
project,
having
one
more
person
who
contributed
full-time,,
also
grew
faster,,
__,
],
So,
now,
I
no
longer
needed
one
person
or
two
I
needed
a
lot
more
people
I
needed
a
lot
more
people.
To
give
me
a
cable,
there
was
to
find
a
solution.
We
were
also
throwing
away
with
donations,
slack
donations,
museum
donations,
I
convinced
them
to
donate
from
cells
and
many
other
companies.
C
C
So
we
had
to
find
a
solution.,
I,
say
this,.
We
have
to
find
a
solution,
because
this
cannot
continue
like
this,
and
there
were
two
solutions
on
the
table,.
One
was
to
set
up
a
startup
start
offering
services
on
top
of
a
product
in
try
to
place
it
Look
for
financing,
probably
very
much
to
my
regret,
because
I
hate
investors,
a
lot
But
and
when
investor
capital
comes
in,
everything
is
corrupted,
but
I,
say
Well.
But
if
there
is
no
other
option
Well,
we
will
have
to
do
it,,
that's
it,.
C
We
will
have
to
accept
it,
no
And.
The
other
was
that
smartware,
the
company
that
develops
swagger
openik
Also
known
as
Penny
piai
Well
I,
wanted
to
buy,
I
wanted
to
buy
it,
and
we
were
already
in
negotiations
to
see
how
much
they
would
give
us.
The
specification
was
not
sold.
Specification
was
left
out
of
the
deal.
They
only
wanted
the
tools
we
had
developed
and
it
was
like
a
tree
Well,.
It's
not
that
bad,
it
's
as
if
the
specification,,
which
is
the
standard,,
which
is
the
important
thing,.
C
Let's
say,,
stays
out
of
your
hands,.
It
stays
in
the
community,.
You
can
put
the
tools
where
you
want
where
they
fit,.
If
you
don't
like
it,,
if
someone
He
doesn't
like
it
and
will
develop
another
tool,
Don't
worry
and
it
was
a
good
offer.
But
then,
as
I
say,
I
was
talking
to
my
friend,
Kim
Lane
And
I,
told
him
the
whole
picture
and
I
said
Look
at
this.
We're
going
to
have
to
make
a
decision
soon
and
he
says,
wait,
wait!
C
C
Shortly
after
Also
in
October,
in
fact,
in
October
2020,
we
reached
an
agreement
with
postman.
Ok,
This
was
In
October,
it
was
not
announced
until
December,
but
it
already
happened
in
October.
We
reached
an
agreement
with
postman.
The
agreement
we
reached
with
postman
was
explicitly.
It
is
postman.
Nothing
is
left,
nothing
is
left,
He
hires
us.
He
gives
me
a
budget
to
hire
a
team.
We
are
There
are
12
people
right
now,
all
over
the
world
working
full
time
on
that
job,,
you
can
get
an
idea
that
the
budget
is
expensive,
okay?.
C
In
the
case
of
each
one
of
my
colleagues
in
the
team
that
all
their
contributions
are
fully
and
simply
theirs,,
not
mine
or
any
entity
or
anything
of
theirs,,
they
decide
what
they
do
with
those
contributions,.
This
is
super
important
when
postman
does
not
come
later
and
I
claimed
that
what
you
did
property
of
postman.
You
know
me
art
of
lawyers
until
that
was
very
clear
and
well
and
well
described
some
arrangements.
When
I
say
the
lawyers.
Some
of
you
have
laughed,
but
And
rightly
so,
because.
C
The
negotiation
came
to
fruition
and
There
was
no
agreement
that
we
liked,.
There
was
only
one
thing,.
They
say
that
up
to
now
it
was
the
property
of
Frank
Méndez,.
It
was
not
the
property
of
the
community,
legally,
it
was
mine
because
I
had
done
it,
okay,
in
the
copyright
I
put
my
name.
I
did
not
put
the
community
because
That's
because
it
doesn't
exist
as
legal
before,
but
I
do
exist
as
between
legal
and
I
was
the
owner.
C
So
obviously
this
had
to
be
fixed
because
it's
a
bit
ugly
that
I
go
saying
that
about
the
companies,
but
then
I
kept
it
true
like
that
and
if
I
feel
like
it
I'll
take
it
right
and
I
tell
you.
You
can't
use
that
one,
because
I
don't
feel
like
it,
because
it's
mine
I
forbid
you
to
use
the
brand
brand
that
by
the
way,
registers
in
the
United
States
and
in
Europe
another
pain
but
good
Well.
Then
What
was
the
solution
I
donated
at
that
exact
moment.
C
A
week
before
I.
Think
a
week
passed
before
my
daughter
was
born.
I
donated
the
project
to
the
Linux
foundation,
getting
rid
of
all
of
the
intellectual
property
domains
of
the
Registered
Trademark
in
the
United
States
and
in
Europe
all
giving
it
all
away
for
free
the
Linux
foundation.
Take
it
there,
you
take
it
there.
It's
yours,
you
better,
take
care
of
it.
C
And
make
this
grow
and
that
this
belongs
to
the
real
community
and
that
no
company
comes
with
any
hidden
agenda
to
try
to
manipulate
the
project
in
favor
of
their
unique
interests,
and
that's
it
and
I
say
this
knowingly,
because
in
many
other
similar
projects
I
am
not
going
to
say,
which
ones
that
happens.
So
I
was
trying
a
little
to
prevent
that
Well.
We.
C
Have
grown
since
then
it
was
me
just
talking
to
the
wall.
We
have
a
technical
committee
that
is
made
up
of
more
than
40
people
today,
I
think
it
is
42.
Today
42
people
around
the
world,
42
people
who
are
part
of
a
technical
committee,
that
is,
they
are
the
ones
who
make
the
decisions.
I
want
to
spend
money
from
something
in
anything,
and
the
committee
has
to
come
to
me
and
approve
it.
C
Otherwise,
neither
I
nor
anyone
else
can
decide
what
to
do
with
the
money
or
decide
what
to
do
with
the
project
or
decide
anything.
Everything
has
to
be
decided
by
the
committee
technical
And,
why
more
than
40
people,
and
why
the
technical
committee
to
compare
is
so
large,.
They
normally
have
between
five
or
ten
people
at
most
five
or
10
And.
It
is
a
lot
5
It
is
normal
more
like
4
or
5
people,
precisely
to
avoid
that
for
prevent
companies
from
coming
and
putting
people
to
work
there
in
the
technical
committee
And.
C
B
C
It
becomes
more
complicated,
they
can
do
it
Yes,
but
they
have
to
invest
more
And.
It's
kind
of
welcome
to
invest
the
money,
right,.
Try
to
control
it,
continue
investing
there,
right,,
because
today,
in
the
promise
that
we
have
promised
myself
at
the
time
with
the
project
and
that
I
made
to
the
community,.
C
We
are
earning
a
lot
of
money..
There
is
a
lot
of
money
from
donations.
and
we
hardly
spend,
and
the
only
thing
we
are
spending
lately
is
a
mentorship
program
that
we
have
started.
If
you
know
Google
Summer
of
Coat
Google
season
of
ducks
and
similar
are
programs
in
which
you
invite
students
from
your
community
to
contribute
to
the
project
and
you
pay
them
obviously,
that
is,
they
are
paid
contributions,,
okay,
And
you,.
In
addition
to
being
paid,,
you
help
them
to
be
able
to
do
it.
Okay,
well,.
C
C
Talking
about
the
community
in
the
past
week,
without
going
any
further
I,
am
the
director
there.
Okay
As,
some
of
you
have
already
read
in
the
intro,
and
that
means
that
I
am
the
person
who
is
in
charge
of
everything,
It
works
and
well,
in
the
end,,
a
bit
of
a
visible
head,
that
everything
goes
in
the
direction
that
is
best
for
the
project.
C
Last
week.
I
proposed
that
my
friend
Lucas
take
over
as
director
with
a
little
pain
here
in
my
heart,
because
It
means
letting
go
of
your
son,,
meaning
that
my
path
is
not
coming
to
an
end,,
obviously
I
'm
still
contributing,,
obviously
I'm
going
to
continue
there,,
but
it
seems
super
important
to
me
to
pass
the
command
to
that
community.
That
has
been
created
and
say
No,.
This
is
no
longer
Fran.
This
is
no
longer
Frank's
project.
C
This
is
this
is
a
community
project
and,
as
such,
the
community
has
to
recycle
itself,
then,
and
also
the
positions
above.
It
is
worth
that,
as
I
said.
In
the
end,
the
position
of
director
is
more
of
a
brown
than
a
benefit,
because
you
are
not
entitled
to
anything.
You
are
not
entitled
to
any
benefit.
You
are
only
a
servant
of
the
community
because
it
is
really
the
technical
committee
that
is
in
charge.
C
C
I
think
it
is
going
to
be
it
is
a
decision.
I
think
it
is
a
great
decision.
You
are
all
going
to
see
it.
If
you
follow
the
project
closely,
I
think
you
are
going
to
see
it.
I
would
like
to
say
goodbye
to
the
talk.
Okay,
I
would
like
to
Highlight
three
little
things
that
I
I
take
the
Take
aways
that
the
Americans
say.
C
Three
things
that
I
take
away
from
this
experience
of
creating
a
project
of
how
you
create
a
personal
project
and
suddenly
it
becomes
an
industry
standard.
Suddenly,
a
lot
has
happened.
I
would
like
to
highlight
one
thing
and
It
is
that
when
I
rejected
the
offer
of
thousands
off
that
I
later
cried.
Although
I
knew
what
I
was
doing,.
C
C
What
I
take
with
me
is
that
if
you
ever
dare
to
do
something
like
this,,
whatever
happens
to
you,,
you
have
to
know
what
your
value
is,
that
is,
you
have
to
value
yourself
very
much,.
It
is
worth
it
that
nobody
comes
to
rob
you
a
while
ago.
We
were
talking
with
Middle
about
how
much
How
much
is
charged
Not,
how
much
people
charge
cheaply
from
people
who
want
you
to
work
for
free
and
all
that
kind
of
thing.
C
Don't
value
yourself,
Really
value
yourself,
because
there
are
many
companies
with
a
lot
of
money
and
They
are
not
willing
to
spend
it.
So,
don't
work
for
them
for
free,
obviously,
and
when
I
found
out
that
it
is
lag,,
they
are
using
it
without
a
key,.
The
first
thing
I
did
was
document
myself
and
obviously
Although
not,,
although
I
burned
a
lot,,
but
I
documented
something
and
I
realized
that
there
were
more
companies
using
them..
Big
companies
like
SAP
vale
companies
like
Adidas
vale,
were
using
it.
So
there
was
money
already
in
wine,
but
pasta.
C
C
Wanted
to
highlight
that
then
another
little
thing
that
I
see
in
many
many
people
who
create
projects
of
this
type
of
free
software
and
carry
them
out
is
that
the
people
forget
about
their
community
of
people
and
they
favor
money
and
they
get
carried
away
by
the
amounts.
These
huge
amounts
of
money,
I
put
you
an
offer
here
on
the
table
and
I
take
the
briefcase
and
I
'm,
leaving
no
hell.
Let's
do
this
In
community.
We
have
something
very
Nice,.
C
We
have
a
very
cool
power,,
which
is
that
we
can
all
get
together
and
do
very
cool
things.
Let's,
not
let
four
bicachones
with
pasta,
come
and
__
]
us
up,
because
they're
going
to
basically
__
]
you
up
and
a
third
thing
that
I
want
that
I
haven't
told
you
in
all
today's
talk
and
I
think
I
hardly
mentioned.
It's
never.
C
C
E
A
B
F
F
C
B
E
C
C
Problem,
not
Normally.
The
way
this
is
explained
is
that
people
blow
up
the
house,.
My
head
also
exploded
when
I
reached
the
agreement
to
this
with
them.
The
way
this
is
explained
there
are
two
one
is:
if
they
hire
me
and
I,
think
sinky's
team
is
there
and
they
are
all
in
postman
and
such
And.
You
are
a
big
fan
of
standing
and
all
those
things
where
you
want
to
work
in
postman.
True,
well,
postma
needed
to
grow
very
fast
So.
C
If
the
subject
of
event-driven
architecture
continues
to
grow,
it
continues
to
hit
and
One
day
it
will
become
a
very
large
market
and
it
seems
that
it
is
going
to
do
so,
or
so
the
forecasts
say,
well,
mansa
claims
to
have
a
very
good
position
there,,
if
not
the
first
to
be
up
there,
because
it
has
the
people
who
have
made
it
work
for
forward
or
to
one
or
one
of
the
communities
that
has
made
it
move
forward.
Then
they
are
going
to
have
a
privileged
position
in
the
market.
Okay,
that
is
right.
Now
If.
C
You
had
Not
right
now,
but
I'll
put
you
in
two
or
three
years.
If
you
have
a
lot
of
products
that
give
you
support-
and
you
know
us,,
the
most
likely
thing
is
that
you
bet
on
contracting
a
postman
license
because
postman,
because
who
is
going
to
have
better
support
than
the
company
where
the
largest
team
that
works
is
really
not
always
like
that.
There
may
be
that
it
doesn't
have
to
be
that
way,
but
people
simplify-
and
this
happens
a
lot.
So
that's
the
other
one.
E
G
C
G
And
that
was
to
ask
you
the
right
one
with
the
technical
complexity
that
he
has
to
have
to
direct,
not
only
the
project
but
from
postman
and
such
and
working
in
a
company
From
there,.
How
was
the
experience,?
How
has
the
change
been
for
you
and
how
have
you
been
managing
to
be
able
to
carry
out
the
whole
process
From
there
from
below.
C
Because,
in
the
end,
it
does
not
change
nothing
because
keep
in
mind
that
the
company
is
not
in
Spain,
the
company
is
in
America
and
it
is
in
India
so
well
and
in
London
they
have
it
too,
but
well
then
nothing
changed
for
me.
I
was
at
home
and
my
home
could
be
with
ululu
right
As
long
as
I
have
an
internet
connection,.
That's
fine
for
me
And.
What
was
happening
was
this,
I
realized
on
the
day
of
Well,
I'm
being
silly,
I'm
here.
C
C
Maybe
you
have
to
make
a
jump
to
San
Francisco
or
what
It's
good,
I,
don't
like
it
very
much,,
but
well,
it's
used
for
lipoa
or
whatever,
and
you
get
caught
on
planes
type,
a,,
eh,,
that's
a
bit
more
pain
in
the
ass,
before
I
could
do
it
directly
from
Barcelona,
,
but
hey,
it's
once
a
year
twice
times
a
year.
Nothing
happens
either.
No
the
rest
of
the
time
how
it's
done.
It's
done
by
video
calls
on
slack
on
github
and
delegating
a
lot
and
trusting
your
team.
Basically,
that's
how
it's
done!
C
D
C
This
Yes,
in
fact,
but
luckily
it
happened
before
luckily
El
Paso
before
and
I
was
cured
in
health
and
the
license
that
I
put
was
Apache
2.0
and
there
is
little
that
they
can
do
so.
What
I
did
make
a
mistake,
and
few
people
know
this
Is
that
I
put
in
it
for
a
while
I
put
Frank
Méndez
And.
You
can't
do
that.
You
have
to
put
your
full
legal
name
Ok
and
for
another
time
as
I
thought.
Well,
I
don't
want
this
to
be
from
Frank
I
want
it
to
be
from
the
community.
C
What
I
did
was
remove
the
copyright
lines,
I
removed
it,
so
it
made
the
license
invalid,
but
I
didn't
I,
knew
then
a
lawyer
right
and
messed
it
up
and
a
couple
of
times
and
that's
what
happened.
But
luckily
I
have
always
surrounded
myself
with
people
from
the
community
who
knew
more
and
I.
Let
myself
be
guided
by
them
and
when
I
got
to
this
situation
of
having
to
negotiate
this
kind
of
thing
Well,
they
could
have
cloned
it,
uh,.
They
could
have
made
a
fork,
change
the
name
and
say
Well,.
C
We
can,,
you,
don't
want
to,,
we'll
copy
it
and
we'll
follow
it
ourselves
and
we'll
put
a
team
of
12
programmers
and
you're
there.
Just
talking
to
him
to
the
wall.
You
are
going
to
end
up
busted
because
you
are
not
going
to
be
able
to
keep
up
with
my
team
of
programmers
and
But.
That
would
speak
very
badly
of
them
and
it
would
be
very
bad
press
for
them.
So
that
is
why
I
say:
We
have
a
Very
good,
very
nice
power
between
Everyone,
eh,,
don't
screw
it
up.
D
D
E
C
C
I
must
say
that
one
of
The,
good
things
that
those
trading
days
had
was
precisely
that
I
drew
a
contract
with
them,
how
to
say
it
as
an
advisor,
if
you
want,
or
as
an
advisor
in
terms
of
this
type
of
event-driven
architecture
and
without
all
of
this.
So
I
had
a
contract
with
them.
As,
a
freelancer,
okay,
I
did
n't,
have
it,
I
had
the
promise,,
so
what
I
did
was
register
it
as
a
freelancer
to
make
this
contact
with
them.
So?
C
They
already
have
to
pay
me,
okay,,
but
they
pay
me
for
advising
them,,
which
is
a
completely
different.
Thing.
I
already
said
that
so
that
I
have
this
contract
in
hand,
I
can
leave
the
job
I
have
at
New
Relic
and
dedicate
myself
to
this
full
time,.
That's
how
I
did
it.
It's,
not
easy,
eh,.
It
's
not
easy,
because
there
is
a
lot
of
fear,
because
that
job
suddenly
disappears
with
and
I
didn't,
have
anything
else
then,
and
I
didn't
have
much
savings.
I
couldn't
survive
either.
C
E
C
Well,
that
specific
comment
of
that
guy
has
never
had,.
He
could
have
done
it
to
me,
in
fact,.
I
surely
would
have
As
someone
said,
in
Barcelona.
It
is
more
complicated,.
People
know
a
little
more
about
this
world
and
they
know
that
these
things
are
not
like
that,,
but
I
have
had
people
who
are
not
from
the
sector.
Who
have
told
me
that
kind
of
thing
and
as.
G
C
C
I'm
talking
about,,
so
what's
going,
on?
It
also
came
from
a
person
who
was
a
benchmark
in
the
sector,
okay.
And.
He
told
me
at
the
time.
I
shared
it
in
a
slack
that
there
was
a
community
of
APIs.
I
shared
it
with
all
my
enthusiasm,
and
he
told
me
this.
I
already
tried
it
a
few
years
ago,
and
this
is
an
error.
This
is
not
going
to
work,
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
how
much
And
I
told
him
Ok.
Well,
thanks
for
your
feedback,
that
was
what
I
told
him.
C
C
Don't
know
if
out
of
envy
or
because
it
has
n't
occurred
to
them
or
I,
don't
know.
But
what
is
clear
is
that
it
works.
It
works
Because,
it
is
He
is
using
it
and
it
works
well
for
many
people,,
it
solves
the
problem
for
me,.
That's
why
he
thought
it
was
for
me.
I
didn't
open
it
correctly,,
but
it
was
to
solve
the
problem.