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From YouTube: Community Meeting, 8:00 UTC Tuesday November 15th 2022
Description
B
B
Yeah,
pretty
cool
I
had
nowhere
to
go
so
I
was
just
really
slipping
and
I
slept
through
the
entire
weekend.
Do.
A
B
Oh
I
have
like
my
own
personal
PC,
and
it's
a
gaming
PC
so
and
I
have
this
Discord
group
that
I
used
to
join
on
weekends.
So
just.
A
A
B
Makes
sense,
like
you
model
so
I,
think
your
MacBook
is
M1
right.
D
A
Need
yeah
because
the
map,
the
Apple,
create
the
tool
for
it.
It's
called
The
Bootcamp,
it's
installed
in
the
MacBook
by
default,
but
I
don't
know
if
it's
installed
in
the
M1
and
you
know,
you're
only
select
the
ISO
image.
B
B
Hey,
let's
say
Maya
can
tell
me
what's
up.
B
Okay
looks
like
everyone
is
awesome.
B
So,
let's
get
right
into
it.
We
have
a
couple
of
things
on
the
agenda
and
yeah.
So,
firstly,
I
started
a
completed
discussion.
I
opened
like
I
I,
was
having
a
discussion
with
Alejandra
privately
so
I
decided
to
like
made
a
discussion
publicly
and
it
seems
I
Got
a
notification.
A
magic
looks
like
you
saw
the
discussion
yeah,
so
I'm
gonna
share
a
little
into
discussion.
First
yeah
that.
B
Yeah
share
the
link,
so
we
have
okay,
I'm
gonna
share
on
YouTube.
Well,
so
I've
got
time.
B
So
we
have
this
community
section.
We
are
actively
you
know
working
on
and
we
also
have
like
a
community
dogs,
so
we
will
so
I
decided
to
like
reuse,
the
ckpi
docs
layout
for
the
community
docs
also
and
yeah.
So
there
was
some
kind
of
Confusion
And
also
from
the
spark
perspective
of
the
users.
B
They
would
eventually
think
that
is
the
main
basic
API
docs,
just
to
avoid
some
kind
of
conduct,
confusion
and
contradiction.
So
we
started
to
like
look
for
other
other
means
right,
and
we
have
two
options
in
my
opinion
on,
it
was
either
to
have
a
Content
bucket
in
the
docs,
slash
docs
page
or
use
a
different
UI
entirely
to
for
the
community,
docs
and
I.
Think
based
on
some
research.
B
I
saw
oh,
these
are
what
other
people
are
doing
right,
so
it
is
either
they
have
a
UI
completely
different
from
this
slash
docs
section
for
the
community,
or
they
just
have
your
content
buckets
in
in
the
community
in
deduction
section
right.
So
we
can
actually
like
make
the
discussion
public
to
hear
what
others
have
to
say
or
share
their
opinion
on
that.
B
So
that's
the
link
to
discussion.
If
you're
interested
you
can
easily
jump
right
into
it,
so,
secondly,
it's
about
the
mentorship
program
right.
So
the
folks
are
amazing.
So
far
like
I'm
super
super
pumped
about
what
they're
doing
and
yeah
I
think
yeah.
So
we
actually
replaced
some
I
think
just
one
one
person
in
the
program
based
on
not
being
active
to
be
honest,
So
So.
B
The
this
person,
when
we
actually
replace
this
person
that
he
reached
out
and
said
hey
I'm
back
I'm
I'm
willing
to
start
contributing
to
the
to
the
projects.
But
I
was
like
sorry,
man,
it's
too
late,
I,
don't
think
because
we've
already
notified
this
person,
we
placed
you
with,
and
it
will
sound
somehow
to
just
like
take
the
person
out
and
say
yo.
The
person
is
back
right.
So
I
did
my
best.
B
I
tried
to
reach
out
to
the
person
a
couple
of
times
before
replacing
him,
but
I
didn't
get
any
any
response,
so
we
had
no
choice
but
other
than
that
we
have
like
the
folks
are
actually
working
really
hard
on
their
project
and
I
think
based
on
even
the
fact
that
some
of
them
in
college
I
think
doing
exam
right
now
and
yeah
and
DST.
B
You
know
doing
something
and
eventually
I
think
some
of
them
are
even
around
you
know
the
project,
their
project
right
and
also
Google
summer
of
code
is
back
so
I
would
eventually,
you
know,
apply
to
like
CK
sport
for
us
in
the
Google
summer
of
code
next
year
and
yeah
I'm,
pretty
sure
it
would
have
I
I'm
being
positive,
yeah,
okay,
so
I'm
pretty
sure
we're
gonna
have
to
by
mentorship
slot
next
year,
so
yeah
I'm
looking
forward
to
that
also
so
on
the
mentorship
program.
B
Okay,
cool,
so
that's!
That's
it
on
the
mentorship
program
and
yeah
so
agenda
on
the.
C
Where
do
I
start
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen?
Okay,
sure.
B
C
Awesome
so
there
are
two
topics:
I
want
to
just
highlight
something:
I
highlighted
during
the
conference,
but
I
just
want
to
highlight
it
on
this
meeting
as
well.
So
I
can
also
share
the
recording
with
others.
C
So
there
are
two
topics,
and
actually
maybe
I'll
start
with
the
first
one
with
this
one,
not
the
the
other
one
so
I
this
year,
I
wanted
to
continue
what
I,
what
I
started
already
last
year,
so
kind
of
discussion
and
and
a
proposal
of
what
we
should
do
to
build
the
community
in
the
next
year.
Basing
on
the
experience
from
the
from
the
current
year
so
yeah,
that's
the
that's.
C
What
I
that's
what
I
did
here
like
opened
the
proposal
for
2023,
so
the
so
before
I
talk
about
the
main
topics
to
pick
up
for
next
year.
Let's
just
make
it
clear
that
we're
not
dropping
the
others,
so
we
should
definitely
continue
with
async
API
ambassador
and
growth
of
the
of
the
number
of
ambassadors.
C
We
don't
have
yet
a
page
for
them.
We
know
we
have
three
ambassadors,
but
we
also
don't
have
yet
an
option
to
send
swag
for
them.
So
that's
not
something
we
had
talk
about
out
loud
to
the
to
the
community,
but
that's
something
that
should
change
in
2023
mentorships,
that's
obvious.
We
I
think
it's
at
least
for
me.
It's
obvious
I
hope
for
you
as
well.
C
Is
that
like
it's,
it
converts
great
for
for
the
community
and
I
think
we're
doing
great
thing
in
the
open
source
world
by
by
helping
new
folks
in
the
in
the
industry
to
get
on
open
source
projects,
so
we
definitely
have
to
continue
dementorships
and
the
conference.
That's
the
most
specific,
so,
like
I
think
we
should
never
do
online
again,
at
least
until
next
pandemia
Maybe,
but
I'm
I'm,
like
con
like
prove
me
wrong,
but
I'm
super
I'm
super
skeptical.
C
If
it
comes
to
having
us
in
the
API
conference
only
as
a
single
event,
I
I'm,
I
I,
don't
think
specifications
are
sexy
enough
to
attract
people
to
come
to
the
event.
Just
that
is
called
asking
API
conference
specification
itself.
C
It's
super,
boring
and
I
would
never
go
to
such
conference,
but
I
would
go
to
such
conference
if
it
would
be
mixed
with
other
events
or
I
would
go
to
it
if
that
would
be
just
a
small,
even
somewhere
close
to
my
location
and
just
one
day,
even
where
I
don't
spend
too
much
on
my
of
my
budget.
C
So
my
proposal,
if
it
comes
to
the
conference,
is
that
like
I'm,
not
sure
if
you're
familiar
with
some
some
stuff
I'm
doing
like
unofficially
for
now
like
this
preaching
about
API
Summit,
like
having
a
big
big
conference
for
all
the
all
the
different
API
topics,
not
just
specs
but
also
like
gateways
and
like
basically
the
API
Community
under
the
Linux
Foundation
conference,
but
I'm
also
realistic,
like
to
make
it
happen
and
to
have
people
engaged
from
different
communities
like
grpc
or
Cloud
events
or
graphql
whatever,
and
also
have
a
Linux
Foundation
investing
in
it.
C
It's
a
lot.
It's
a
long
way
to
go.
I,
don't
think
it's
it's
doable
for
next
year,
because
if
it's
online,
if
it's
in
person,
then
it's
it's
definitely
I.
Think
we
learned
this
year.
It's
more
difficult
to
organize,
especially
if
you're,
organizing,
not
in
a
country
that
you're
from
and
so
my
proposal
for
next
year,
is
that
we
do
a
set
of
micro
conferences
like
kind
of
meetups
half
a
day
or
full
day
in
different
locations,
and
we
delegate
the
organization
to
different
companies.
C
So
basically,
let's
say
we
have
Solas
in
Canada
or
we
have
ugly
in
London
or
we
have
Postman
that
has
a
huge
office
in
Bengaluru
in
India.
So
we
can
basically
connect
with
these
companies
and
offer
that
we
can
organize
an
event
in
their
location.
C
They
sponsor
everything
so,
but
in
exchange
they
have
async
API
even
in
their
office,
and
we
we
were
as
a
community.
We
make
sure
that
they
there
are
speakers
coming
talking
about
async
API.
We
could
even
do
it
in
the
way
that
half
a
day
it's
a
workshop
about
using
API
and
the
the
other
half
of
the
day.
It's
it's
a
set
of
presentations,
but
basically
it's
it's.
It's.
C
The
brand
name
is
asang
API
conf
on
a
tour,
so
we're
like
rock
stars
showing
up
in
different
in
different
countries,
but
it's
not
like
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
notice,
like
recently
I
see
on
Twitter,
people
are
making
fun
of
bands
that
say
they
during
World
Tour,
but
the
world
tour
is
usually
North
America
and
a
few
cities
in
Europe.
But
in
this
case
we
would
do
something
like
like
a
real
tour
and
reach
as
many
locations
as
possible
as
long
as
we
have
sponsors
that
want
to
organize
the
event.
C
So
that's
it
if
it
comes
to
things
that
we
should
basically
continue
that
we
know
that
especially
these
two
from
the
past.
We
know
that
they
bring
people
to
the
project
and
increase
the
the
size
of
the
community
by
a
lot.
So
we
have
to
continue
doing
it
so
before
I
go
to
the
other
topics.
Do
you
have
any
questions.
C
Okay,
no
topics
about
the
I
think
a
conference.
Okay.
C
So
then
the
top
new
three
topics,
first
of
all,
code
of
conduct,
something
that
I
started
thinking
a
lot
since
I
went
to
the
open
source
Summit
in
Dublin
and
I,
attended
one
presentation
about
code
of
conduct
and
the
lawyer
from
Linux
Foundation.
She
was
yeah
I'm,
bringing
some
some
example:
issues
from
different
communities,
open
source
communities
from
the
from
the
past
and
like
how
that
could
be
improved
with
code
of
conduct.
C
So
if
you
watched
my
presentation
on
the
on
asking
API
conference,
I
I
showed
there
some
numbers
and
the
numbers
like
indicate
that
we
we
started
growing
pretty
fast
and
I.
Think
we
see
it
after
seeing
and
looking
at
the
notifications
from
GitHub
or
mailboxes
and
the
the
thing
is
that
always
with
the
larger
group,
you
get
the
more
diverse
group
you
get
and
we
managed
to
to
do
it
in
our
project
to
have
very
diverse
group
of
people.
C
The
problem
is
that
at
some
point
of
time,
I
think
it's
natural
that
there
might
be
conflicts
between
people,
one
we
can
imagine
like.
We
have
TSC
members
that
are
from
Russia
and
Ukraine
and
that's
at
this
point
of
time.
C
Nothing
happens
and
it's
perfect,
because
these
are
really
good
guys
and
keep
politics
away,
but
you
can
imagine
the
situation
in
the
future
where
it's
not
so
dope
and
people
are
not
so
kind
and
there
might
be
some
conflicts
on
different
on
different
on
different
topics
on
different
sites.
C
Let's
say
so,
it
can
be
abusive,
it
can
be
politics
driven,
it
can
be
like,
like
you
can
imagine
whatever
I
guess
that
will
bring
in
Conflict
into
the
project,
and
the
thing
is
that
at
the
at
the
moment
we
have
a
condo
of
conduct
where
we
just
say
that,
like
people
should
contact
Fran
when
something
is
wrong,
but
we
also
need
to
know
how
people
work,
especially
if
it
comes
to
the
situations
where
women
are
abused
in
the
in
a
group.
C
C
C
So
that's
a
pretty
sensitive
topic
and
just
to
make
it
clear,
I,
don't
I
haven't
seen
any
conflicts
so
far
in
the
in
the
community,
but
I'm
100
sure
that
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
get
there
and
we
just
need
to
be
ready
and
we
need
just
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
code
of
conduct.
That
is
not
just
a
copy
of
some
other
code
of
conduct,
but
it's
something
that
we
actually
review.
C
Maybe
we
set
up
a
group
of
people
that
can
moderate
what
happens
in
the
community.
I
actually
contacted
the
after
the
presentation.
I
was
talking
to
this
lawyer
from
from
Linux
foundation,
and
she
said
like
she's
all
ours.
C
If
we
want
to
consult
with
her
ask
her
for
some
best
practices,
Etc
so
I
think
that's
one
of
the
topics
that
we
need
to
pick
up
for
next
year
to
like
to
have
have
a
solution,
so
I'm
usually
I'm,
for
example
I'm
polish
and
in
Poland
it's
it's
normal
that
we
react.
We
don't
prepare
ourselves.
We
just
react
on
situations,
but
in
this
case
I
don't
think
we
should
it's,
especially
if
it
comes
to
people,
feelings,
I,
don't
think
we
should
react
on
this
situation.
C
Yeah,
the
other
topic
is
the
redistribution
of
funds
with
contributors
so,
basically
like
we
have.
We
have
sponsors.
We
also
like
we
also
plan
to
have
more
responsors
next
year
and
the
even
though
it's
super
cool
that
we
have.
We
managed
to
set
up
a
governance
model
where
we
have
so
many
individual
contributors.
C
The
thing
is
that
individual
contributors
usually
contribute
after
hours,
and
it
would
be
nice
to
have
a
way
where
how
we
can
distribute
the
the
funds
we
get
from
the
sponsors
with
the
with
the
maintainers
and
also
with
just
the
just
the
contributors.
C
So
not
something
not
only
the
mentorship
program
where
we
can
mentor
new
people,
but
it's
also
about
the
redistributing
funds
with
with
senior
people
with
people
that
actually
are
experienced,
they're
not
interested
in
taking
part
in
mentorship
programs,
but
they're
interested
in
maintaining
one
of
the
asking
API
projects,
but
they
have
to
do
it
after
hours,
so
let's
at
least
make
sure
that
they're
getting
paid
for
it.
So
I
think
it's
also
something
that
we
should
already
address
in
next
year
and
explore
possible
solutions.
C
I
think
there
are
some
even
open.
Collective
itself
is
having
some
Bounty
program
for
contributors,
so
yeah
I
guess:
that's
it
I'm
sure.
If,
if
you
got
something
new
I,
guess
it's
pretty
clear
so
yeah,
it's
just
about
paying
people
for
their
work
and
last
but
not
least,
something
I
kicked
off
this
this
year,
but
I'd
like
that.
It's
also
one
of
the
main
themes
for
next
year,
and
it's
not
just
me
doing
this,
but
it's
actually
Collective
work,
so
we
can
scale
it.
C
So
it's
about
case
studies,
so
we
have
a
lot
of
like
people
joining
the
community,
but
we
still
continue
having
questions
like
how
hey?
C
How
do
you
do
async
API,
with
this
protocol
or
with
this
solution,
and
the
thing
is
that
we
we
maintainers
are
not
good
in
answering
these
questions
because
we
are
not
using
async
API
in
production,
we're
maintaining
using
API,
so
so
the
best
is
if
we,
if
we
gather
that
knowledge-
and
we
we
ask
simply
companies
that
already
use
async
API,
how
they're
using
it
with
different
protocols
with
different
with
different
scenarios,
because
it
not
only
works
as
a
perfect
proof
that
async
API
is
used
in
production.
C
But
it's
also
a
a
huge
resource
of
knowledge
for
for
the
community
and
for
me,
as
a
maintainer
of
the
spec.
It's
also
additionally,
a
super
great
resource
to
that.
I
can
use
for
to
help
me
whenever
there's
a
request
or
proposal
for
some
feature
in
async
API,
because
I
can
consult
how
others
already
use
a
given
feature.
That
is,
will
be
affected
by
a
given
pull
request.
C
So
that's
something
I
I
think
it's
it's
about
time
really
to
to
put
more
love
in
the
in
the
topic
of
the
case
study
and
just
to
back
my
why
I
want
to
push
it
like.
We,
we
just
have
like
there's
just
one
PR
for
now
official
PR
from
Adele,
and
you
can
say
like
it's.
C
It's
just
one
use
case,
but
it's
already
like
so,
for
example,
for
me,
it's
already
super
useful
because,
like
through
this
one
PR
and
one
use
case
I,
we
already
have
benefits
for
our
work
on
3-0,
because
there
it's
in
case
of
Adele,
the
use
case
is
showing
also
how
they
have
to
work
around
request.
C
Reply
pattern
in
a
2-0
version,
so
me
as
a
maintainer
I,
can
already
pick
up
their
example
and
try
to
rewrite
it
for
3-0
and
see
how
request
reply
would
look
like
for
them
once
they
migrate
to
3-0.
C
Also
from
their
use
case,
I
see
how
they
work
with
Maven
plugins
to
generate
in
Java
way
documentation
using
our
generator,
which
is
node.js
project.
So
I
can
already
like
easily
just
link
to
their
description,
how
they
use
it.
They
even
shared
their
their
Maven
plugin
configuration.
So
it's
it's
much
easier
to
answer
questions
and
and
and
help
the
community
by
just
pointing
to
description.
How
some
companies
doing
stuff,
then
then
answering
with
just
theoretical
knowledge.
C
B
So
I
have
a
question
right.
The
question
is
basically
concerning
about.
We
think
about
conference
2023
on
a
tour
right,
so
you
said
something
like
you
know,
posting
this
conferences
in
different
locations
with
different
organizers
and
stuff
like
that
and
to
be
honest,
I'm
kind
of
confused
right,
I'm
like
okay.
We
have
two
hosts
this
conferences,
a
different
locations
right.
How?
How
is
that
possible?
Like
okay?
B
Is
it
just
a
day
like
we
owe
this
conference
in
a
particular
day,
but
in
different
locations
right
then
they
attend
the
people
attending
the
conference
then
choose
where
they
want
to
be
right,
which
one
they
want
to
go
or
so
how
do
we
tell
these
people
right
about
which?
What
is
happening
in
this
particular
place,
because
he
said
is:
is
it
just
related
to
async,
API
or
you
wanted
to
like
cover
all
aspect
of
specifications.
C
So
it's
a
so
it's
not
one
one
day.
So
it's
on
the
tour
on
a
tour
right.
So
it's
like
a
like
I
said
like
a
rock
star,
so
so
you're
going
on
different
dates
to
different
locations.
C
C
So
when
we
will
contact,
for
example,
Postman
and
talk
about
maybe
doing
an
even
in
Bengaluru,
it's
up
to
people
from
from
this
company
and
from
from
Bengaluru
location
to
tell
us
what
is
the
best
day
to
do
it
and
time
to
do
it,
and
then
we
just
agree
on
how
much
more,
how
much
time
we
need
to
organize
travels
and
and
get
speakers
to
get
there.
C
Another
example
would
be
like,
let's
say
Solace,
and
they
they
want
to
I,
think
they
in
Ottawa.
And
let's
say
they
want
to
also
do
this
async
API
conference
in
their
in
their
office,
sponsor
it
again
like
we're
gonna
ask
them
like
what
they
think
is
the
best
timing
when
the
best
to
organize
it
and
then
using
our
communication
channels
and
their
communication
channels,
we're
gonna
ask
people
to
to
propose
if
they
want
to
do
some
presentations
and
and
come
to
the
event.
C
If
it
comes
to
the
length
of
the
event
again
like
I,
don't
it's
just
a
proposal
for
now,
so
it's
everything
is
open
for
discussion
really
so,
but
yeah
I
was
thinking
that
it
would
be
nice
that
if
at
least
we
might
offer
that,
like
half
a
day,
can
be
really
asking
API
workshops
so
like
like
a
few
hours
of
explaining.
C
What
awesome
API
is
writing
asking
API
file
with
people
at
the
workshop
generating
code
like
showing
some
case
use
cases
and
stuff
like
that,
did
I
answer
a
question.
D
C
C
We
had
a
location
where
we
could
have
events
inside
the
office
and
many
companies
have
it
and
we
can
offer
like,
if
you're
ready,
to
cover
these
costs,
and
we
could
even
require
that
if
you
want,
if
you
organize
this
event,
for
example,
we
can
have
this
requirement
that
you
can
organize
the
event,
but
you
have
to
sponsor
at
least
I.
Don't
know,
let's
say
one
one
speaker,
you
sponsored
they
traveled
to
the
to
the
location.
Let's
say
something
like
this.
C
C
I
I
did
not
like
I
I
intentionally,
I
didn't
take
anything
yesterday,
but
that's
why
maybe
I'm
so
the
the
other
topic
kinda
related
to
this
so
who's,
making
sure
that
the
work
on
Code
of
Conduct
is
happening
and
who's
who
who
reports
the
status
of
the
work?
Who
knows
that
somebody
is
taking
care
of
this
topic
and
coordinates
it?
C
Who
knows
what's
the
status
of
case
study
and
who
works
on
it,
etc,
etc,
like
who
knows
who's
taking
care
of
Ambassador
and
who's,
checking
the
status,
Etc
and
updating
the
community?
C
And
all
of
this
is
the
the
community
manager
so
on
like
last
three
years
like
actually
February
next
year
will
be
three
years
when
I
was
like
self-called
Community
manager,
a
community
garden
or
whatever
the
names
are
for
the
project
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
super
healthy.
If
I
I
stop
doing
it
and
we
simply
get
someone
to
do
it
for
for
the
community
on
board
the
it,
and
there
are
two
reasons
why
I
think
it's
going
to
be
healthy.
C
First
of
all,
it's
I'm
affiliated
with
Postman.
So,
even
though
for
people
that
are
in
the
project
last
last
year,
last
two
years
last
three
years,
people
know
me
that
I
think
people
might
guess
that
I'm,
pretty
independent
from
from
my
employer
and
I,
don't
make
any
decisions
like
only
for
that
are
super
cool
for
Postman.
Only,
but
that's
something
that
people
learn
after
being
in
the
project
for
some
time.
C
But
when
people
come
to
the
project
for
the
first
time,
it
might
feel
weird
that
there's
just
this
one
guy
from
The
Single
company
yeah
shaping
the
how
the
how
the
community
grows
and
what
direction,
because
it
believe
me
like
as
they
like,
even
by
setting
the
goals
the
like
by
setting
the
goals,
it's
already
an
influence
on
the
on
the
directions
of
the
community,
because
I
can
imagine
different
goals
can
take
this
community
in
a
totally
different
location.
C
So
so
one
reason
is
that
I'm
affiliated
with
Postman,
and
the
second
is
that,
like
after
three
years,
I
already
am
biased,
really
by
my
few
things.
C
I
already
have
my
opinion
like
what
why
I
think
something
will
not
work,
why
we
should
not
do
it
I'm,
not
even
gonna,
mention
again
my
hate
for
Twitter,
but
but
yeah
I'm,
also
a
fan
of
democracy
and
frequent
changes
in
the
in
the
power.
C
So
that's
why
I
don't
think
it
should
be
me
again
and
it
should
be
someone.
It
should
be.
Someone
and
I
have
no
I,
don't
even
think
I
have
one
preference
or
maybe
I
have
so,
maybe
so
maybe
I'll
just
skip
to
the
proposed
solution.
So
there
are
two
options:
I
see
there
are
others
and
I'm.
Please
comment
in
the
discussion,
but
basically
we
can
like
so
I.
C
My
opinion
is
that
it
should
be
a
rotating
role,
so
we
should
not
just
hire
another
person
for
next
three
years,
but
we
should
make
sure
that
every
year
we
have
someone
new
in
a
way
that,
like
so,
for
example,
I
set
goals
for
next
year
as
a
community
manager
that
was
a
community
manager
in
2022
and
I
set
goals
for
2023.
C
Then,
with
the
community
we
discussed
these
calls
and
if
there
are
doubts
we
we
solve
them
and
we
adjust
the
goals
and
then
we
have
them
like
set
for
next
year
like
set
in
stone,
let's
say,
and
then
we
we
get
a
community
manager
that
will
make
sure
that
all
this
thing
happen
and
then,
throughout
the
year.
This
person
is
like
making
sure
that
all
these
things
happen
looks
at
the
numbers
listens
to
the
community
and
after
one
year
a
person
already
knows
how
these
different
topics
work.
C
What
should
be,
we
should
keep
doing
and
what's
missing
from
this
perspective,
from
the
perspective
of
this
person
like
which
topics
were
ignored
by
us
and
we
should
invest
in
them
and
then
this
person,
the
setting,
goes
for
2024.
right
and
discussing
with
the
community.
Why?
We
should
do
this
and
not
something
else,
and
then
new
community
manager
make
sure
that
these
goals
are
realized.
C
Next
year
looks
on
things
happening
in
the
community
and
then
again
you
know
the
drill
and
the
option
is
that
this
community
manager
is
basically
someone
that
is
hired
by
the
community.
So
we
can
I
think
we
can
easily
have
a
dedicated,
open,
Collective
Sub
sub
funding
like
we
have
for
the
conference
and
and
in
this
subfunding
we
can
like.
C
We
can
ask
some
sponsors
to
donate
a
dedicated
budget
for
to
pay
for
the
to
the
contractor
and
we
basically
contract
someone
for
20
12
months
for
some
given
rate
to
do
the
job
for
the
community.
The
other
option
is
which
I
think
it's
easier
is
when
we,
when
we
we
basically
like
it,
was
with
me
I'm
I'm,
doing
the
work
paid
by
Postman
so
basically
for
next
year
and
there's
someone
else
joining
for
one
year
and
is
being
paid
by
I.
C
Don't
know
I
believe
IBM,
whoever
some
other
company
that
is
involved
in
async
API.
So
they
basically
delegate
someone
for
12
months
to
do
the
work
for
us
and
and
and
by
and
by
having
by
having
this,
like.
First
of
all,
we
do
everything
in
public
and
by
having
this
that
the
person
hired
is
actually
doing
what
the
community
wants
to
do
and
Community
discussed
with
the
previous
Community
manager.
C
So
they
actually
execute
the
the
work
set
by
the
community
and
they
then,
and
then
they
discuss
what
can
be
improved
in
next
years.
But
then
somebody
else
is
driving
these
topics.
So
this
way
I
think
we're
making
sure
that
I
don't
think
it's
a
big
problem.
If
we
have
a
community
manager
again
delegated
from
some
company
I
think
it's
it's
pretty!
C
Okay,
if
it's
personally
from
IBM,
let's
say
because
I
don't
think,
there's
a
place
for
any
evil,
whatever
evil
evil,
what
evil
actions
from
the
from
this
person.
So
for
me,
the
most
important
is
actually
to
have
someone
for
one
year
rather
than
worry.
If
it's,
if
it's
someone
who
is
paid
by
by
some
company
or
who's
paid
by
by
money
from
the
open,
Collective.
C
And
yeah,
then
I'm
not
gonna,
talk
about
the
job,
description
and
I
guess
there
could
be
a
question
like
so
so
is
community
manager
doing
all
the
stuff
from
from
here?
C
I
know
that
is
just
wants
to
be
a
star
in
this
topic,
so
so
there
will
be
definitely
people
driving
some
of
the
some
of
the
topics,
but
there
will
be.
There
is
an
option
that
Community
manager
can,
of
course
like,
for
example,
take
over
this
topic.
Our
community
manager
can,
if
the
community
manager
feels
good
in
organizing
events
and
talking
to
sponsors
like
be
my
guest
and
run
this
topic
as
well,
for
example,.
C
So
it's
pretty
flexible,
but
it's
not
expected
that
Community
manager
is
doing
everything
there.
It
should
be
always
a
community
effort.
B
I
I
have
a
question,
so
the
the
community
manager
right
so
are
you.
Are
you
saying,
like
you're,
going
to
like
make
it
clear
before
before,
eventually
I
have
any
person
right?
So
here's
what
happened
so
this
particular
role
we
are
hiring
for
is
a
temporary
role
right.
So
we
are
going
to
like
replace
you
after
a
year
or
once
How's
that
gonna
work.
C
Like
so
like,
the
rules
would
be
explained
from
the
very
beginning
right.
So
it's
even
let's
say
we
go
open
Collective
way
and
we
have
someone
in
the
community
that
wants
to
do
the
community
work
and
we
hire
them
through
the
on
the
contract
through
open
Collective
like
we
clearly
Define,
it
say
12
month
contract,
oh,
that
it's
not
going
to
each
that
should
not
be
extended,
and
then
so
you
I
mean,
but
I
think
it's
still
I
mean.
C
Do
you
think
it's
bad
I
think
it's
still
pretty
attractive
that
you
have
like
you,
have
pretty
nice
stuff
for
your
portfolio
that
you
were
running
the
the
community
for
one
year
like
big,
open
source
community,
but
yeah
yeah
I
mean
I
mean
that's
at
least
my
opinion
that
it
should
be
just
one
year,
because
it's.
C
Then
pretty
it's
just
bringing
fresh
blood
every
year
with
fresh
view,
which
is
I,
think
the
best
for
the
community.
C
And
there's
something
which
is
I
didn't
look
at
the
on
the
whole
comment
from
Ismail,
but
I
think
when
I
was
skimming
through
the
through
the
comment:
yeah
I'm
not
going
to
find
the
part,
but
when
I
was
just
quickly
yeah
I'm,
not
gonna,
explain
when
I
was
reading
it,
but
when
I
was
reading
the
comment.
C
I
I
one
of
the
nice
one
of
the
points
that
I
liked
from
what
Ismael
wrote
about
actually
having
people
from
different
companies
that
are
delegated
to
do
Community
Management,
is
that
because
we
get
we
people
that
we
would
get
delegated
in
many
cases
are,
will
already
be
people
that
are
experienced
and
they
already
have
their
connection
points.
You
know
contact
points
so
like
every
year
we
would
get
people
from
really
different
communities
with
their
different
contact
points
that
will
spread
the
message
about
nothing
API.
C
So
so
that's
additional
benefit
of
actually
not
hiring
through
open
Collective,
but
actually
having
it
open
to
any
company
that
they
delegate
someone
for
one
year
and
they
can
also
delegate
someone
who
has
that
is
not
experienced
because,
like
we're
a
pretty
friendly
Community
here,
so
we're
gonna
help
anyway.
C
C
Well,
that
might
be
actually
a
third
option,
like
maybe
mentorship
but
12
months,
long
I'm,
not
sure,
if
that's
an
option
for
someone
but
I
mean
I,
say
part
of
using
EPA
mentorship
Maybe
like.
B
D
C
C
I
mean
it's
long,
but
then
it
should
be
compensated
more
than
just
normal.
Of
course,
membership
mentorship,
but
yeah.
C
B
So
I
just
shared
the
link
to
this
discussion
on
on
the
charts
and
also
on
YouTube,
so
feel
free
to
like
jump
and
share
your
opinion.
B
B
So,
if
you're
interested
in
helping
review,
you
can
kindly
jump
right
into
it
and
help
with
your
reveals.
B
C
So
I'm
curious
because
I'm
so
my
topic
is
the
quality
of
the
live
stream,
because
when
we
like,
when
we
talk
now-
and
we
see
Zoom,
you
all
see
Tales
right,
like
five
tails,
you
see
all
the
faces
right
I
mean
you
can
see
all
the
tails
in
one
screen.
C
When
you
look
on
YouTube,
you
only
see
a
person
that
is
speaking
and
I'm
pretty
sure
it's
related
to
some
setting,
because
in
the
past,
I
was
making
sure
that
it's
also
tales
on
the
on
YouTube,
because
it's
it
feels
different
when
you
watch
it,
it's
pretty
annoying.
When
you
see
just
one
person,
emotions
and
my
question
is
to
be
honest.
Like
did
you
change
something
on
your
side
because
I'm
pretty
sure
that
the
live
stream
of
3-0
meeting
is
actually
the
same
as
on
Zoom.
C
If
it's,
if
it's
a
meeting
based
setting
or
if
it's
user
profile
based
setting
yeah
but
now
I'm
checking
like
spec,
3-0
and
I
can
see
like,
and
it's
like.
Oh
my
God,
it's
so
much
different
when
you're,
not
sure
if
you
watch
the
recordings
a
few
times,
but
like
it's
so
much
different
when
you
see
discussion
and
you
see
all
the
faces
and
it's
so
much
different
when
you
just
see
huge
one
huge
phase
but
okay,
then
that's.
E
It's
not
something
that
can
be.
Sometimes
it's
something
that's
configured
in
the
GitHub
actions
we
run
to
set
up
the
meetings.
C
Yeah
then
it
depends
so
if
it's,
if,
if,
if
it's
on
a
setting
level
on
a
on
a
meeting
level,
some
setting,
then
yes,
it
would
be
a
GitHub
action
that
we
have
to
improve.
C
But
it's
weird
because
you
know
like
the
your
meeting-
is
created
the
same
way
as
this
meeting
and
so
why
this
meeting
is
streamed
as
a
single
video
and
your
is
not
so
maybe
it's
a
profile
setting.
You
know,
like
a
user
setting,
you
know
what
I
mean
yeah.
E
B
It
is
that
coming
right,
yeah,
so
we
like
another
question,
any
other
investigations.
You
know
stuff.
We
start
like
five
minutes.
B
Well,
I
feel
better
like
better
now
or
like
before,
Jesus
to
stuff
like
run
out
of
the
room
and
find
somewhere
close
to
go.
But.
B
C
D
B
Okay,
so
if
you
don't
have
any
questions,
then
eventually
like
go
by
our
days
and
yeah,
you
can.
B
Okay,
someone
said
on
YouTube
Hey:
when
will
this
open
up
for
applicants
just
careers,
so
I'll
be
out
I've
been
getting
these
questions
lately
and
yeah?
This
would
be
the
right
time
to
us
like
talk
about
it,
so
you
know
getting
private
DMS
about
people
that
are
like
willing
to
like
participate
in
the
next
mentorship
program.
B
Right
they've
been
asking
me
like,
which
dates
when
and
stuff
like
that,
and
you
know
I've
just
been
encourage
them
like
just
contribute,
start
contributing
and
when
the
date
comes,
I
would
have
eventually
like
let
them
know
right,
but
I
don't
have
any
dates.
So
I
don't
know
like
when
the
specific
dates
when
the
program
will
like
kick
off
next
year,
so
I've
just
been
telling
them
to
just
keep
contributing
I
would
let
them
know
when
this
date
is
and
yeah
I
think
someone
on
YouTube
already
hacks
the
game
hey.
C
Laughs,
it's
it's
your
topic,
your
decision,
I,
don't
know
like
I
like
I,
like
that.
We
we
did
something
different
this
year
than
Google
summer
of
code.
We
didn't
have
such
straight
dates,
Etc.
C
C
I
think
I
saw
some
email
from
people
from
because
I'm
still
in
some
discussion
group
from
Google's
summer
of
code
and
in
this
discussion
group
I
think
that
people
were
already
sending
feedbacks,
and
somebody
said
that
like
no,
no,
it
wasn't
this
I
think
it's
where
I
talked
to
you
I
think
I
talked
to
you
in
this
tweet
on.
B
C
These
dates
on
these
months,
where,
where
Google's
summer
of
code
happens,
so
we
should
just
continue
it
even
more
what
we
did
this
year
so
I
don't
think
we
should
have
a
date.
Maybe
like
does
it
start
in
January,
or
does
it
start
in
March
it's
more
about
defining
budget,
defining
way
how
we
pick
up
topics
and
if
someone
wants
to
start
in
January,
why
not?
Maybe
that's
just
I'm
just
throwing
ideas
but
yeah
I.
Think
that's
the
worst
in
this
in
this
mentorships
is
when
they're
set
on
specific
dates.
B
Maybe
maybe
maybe
that's
why
Google
summer
of
code
decided
to
like
you
know,
change
things
up
because
they
want
people
to
like
feel
comfortable
and
like
easy
to
get
started
right
if
they,
if
you
have
this
specific
date
for
doing
stuff,
then
people
would
like
have
to
like
get
focused
and
people
that
couldn't
actually
meet
up
with
a
particular
date,
with
a
virtual
like
miss
out
and
and
I
feel.
Maybe
that's
the
reason
why
Google
some
of
code
is
that
like
go
with
that
approach,.
C
Yeah
I
mean
the
problem
is
also
that
they,
for
example,
it's
something
that
I
learned
this
year.
I
had
no
idea
that
in
India,
for
example,
summer
is
in
different
months.
I'm
from
Poland.
For
me,
summer
is
always
July
and
and
August
and
I
was
always
thinking
like
Google
summer
of
code.
It's
never
going
to
be
popular
in
Poland,
because
it's
a
summer
time
and
polish.
C
Doing
some
mentorships,
so
that's
that's
not
not
inclusive
enough.
Then.
If
you
have
some
dates,
only
I
guess.
B
Yeah
so
mixes
and
fair
enough.
Well,
they
definitely
would
still
have
to
like
I
think
for
the
case
of
next
year,
right
in
terms
of
mentorship
We
Still,
unlike
this
particular
time
where
the
end
date
is
kind
of
really
flexible
right.
B
C
Yeah,
so
exactly
what
you
said
like,
so
it's
not
like
now
that
we
said
like
end
date,
for
everyone
is
end
of
the
year.
It's
more
it's
more
about
what
mentor
and
mentee
agree.
So
if
you
start
in,
let's
say
first
of
March
and
mentor
and
mentee
agree,
it's
not
complicated.
It's
not
so
complicated
that
you
have
to
work
on
it
like,
let's
say
differently.
So
it's
the
topic
you're
going
to
work
on,
it's
not
so
complex,
so
you
should.
C
It
should
be
enough
to
work
on
it
two
months,
so
we
set
up
deadline
like
for
you.
First
of
March,
it's
gonna
be
first
off
me.
C
That's
how
quick
I'm
with
counting
first
me,
let's
say
so!
That's
how
much
we
should
go
with
the
flexibility
that
it's
I
think
it's!
It's
good,
that
it's
left
to
dementia
and
the
mentor
of
a
given
of
a
given
topic.
C
But
you
know
the
best
is
that's
actually
actually
the
only
good
thing
about
what
I
bring
from
Corporation
and
agile
and
scrum
is
the
retrospective.
C
He
maybe
try
to
get
some
retrospective.
Like
I,
don't
know,
survey
survey,
mentors
and
mentees
from
this
year
what
they
liked,
what
they
didn't
like
as
with
regular
retrospective,
it
works
and
then
propose
something
basing
on
the
likes
and
dislikes.
B
Best
yeah,
absolutely
and
I
think
if
this
program
eventually
ends
like
the
the
current
mentorship
program
and
I,
feel
the
feedback
right
and
I'm
getting
positive
feedback
so
far
and
I'm
pretty
sure
like
before
the
end
of
the
program,
I
would
eventually
get
more
feedback
stuck
with
help.
You
know
enhance
the
the
upcoming
a
mentorship
program,
so
I
should
start
a
discussion
around
that
also.
B
No
okay,
so
this
would
be
the
end
of
this
call
thanks.
You
guys
for
joining
I'm
gonna
update
the
get
a
visual
for
the
notes
for
this
meeting.
So
I'll
share
the
link.
So
if
you,
when
I
go
through
it
later,
it
should
be
available.
So
we
are
past
the
end
hour.
So
see
you
guys
later
thanks
for
joining
the
call
bye
guys
so
yeah
bye.