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From YouTube: AsyncAPI SIG meeting 60 (October 26, 2021)
Description
This is the recording for the AsyncAPI Special Interest Group (SIG) meeting #59.
Agenda and notes: https://github.com/asyncapi/community/issues/111
Chat:
10:12:39 From Lukasz Gornicki : https://github.com/asyncapi/community/discussions/categories/asyncapi-hack-2021-submissions
10:12:59 From Lukasz Gornicki : https://github.com/asyncapi/community/discussions/71
10:29:51 From Nic Townsend : Apologies, I have to drop. Will catch the rest of this discussion on the replay 🙂
10:31:17 From Sergio Moya : https://github.com/asyncapi/spec/issues/618
10:32:53 From Fran Mendez : Collection
10:41:23 From Fran Mendez : https://github.com/asyncapi/spec/issues/628
10:41:28 From David Boyne : thanks
10:45:30 From David Boyne : https://github.com/asyncapi/event-gateway
10:47:52 From Lukasz Gornicki : https://github.com/asyncapi/community/labels/meeting
10:48:43 From George : Thank you all, consider my itch scratched ;)
A
Hello
good
morning,
it's
10
a.m.
In
most
of
europe,
we
have
another
community
meeting
for
us
in
api
community
and,
as
usual
before
discussing
specific
topics,
it's
a
the
best
moment
for
people
in
the
call
that
if
you'd
like
to
ask
something
or
you'd
like
to
introduce
yourself
to
the
community,
I
think
that's
the
best
moment
to
do
it.
Would
anyone
like
to
say
something.
A
B
You
sure,
sorry
I'll,
I
always
struggle
to
find
a
mute
button.
It's
been
a
while,
since
I
introduced
myself
and
I
see
some
new
faces
so
yeah,
I'm
nick
townsend.
I
work
at
ibm.
I'm
a
software
developer
on
some
of
our
streaming.
Products
previously
used
to
work
on
a
product
called
event,
streams
which
was
our
on-prem
and
on
cloud
kafka,
offering
as
managed
and
self-service
pieces,
and
I
now
work
for
ibm
event.
Endpoint
management,
which
is
a
extension
of
an
existing
api
management
products.
B
A
A
A
A
A
So
we
have
like
a
single
place
to
exchange
links
and
and
deadlines.
That's
how
we
did
scoring
for
conference
proposals
and
it
worked
pretty
well
so
we're
gonna
do
the
same
with
the
hackathon.
So
if
you
want
still
to
volunteer
it's
still
time
until
the
end
of
the
week.
So
far
as
I
said,
we
have
10
people.
We
had
10
people
for
conference.
It
was.
It
was
okay,
but
it's
open
to
anyone
to
to
do
the
reviews.
A
So
if
you
want
to
jam
you,
you
want
to
jump
in
you're,
not
involved
as
say
one
of
the
participants
or
you're
not
involved
as
I
am,
or
or
magic,
like
some
people
from
the
community.
Talk
to
us
also
in
dm
asking
for
our
opinion
about
the
ideas
they're
working
on
so
because
we
we
share
our
opinions
and
we
kind
of
can
be
biased
by
by
what
we
saw
already,
I'm
I'm
pretty
sure
I
would
be
biased,
so
I
don't
want
to
be
the
one
that
is
providing
scores.
A
So
that's
if
it
comes
to
the
hackathon.
If
it
comes
to
the
conference
last
weekend
was
deadline
for
the
submissions
not
last
weekend
two
weekends
ago,
then
last
weekend
was
deadline
for
people
providing
scores
and
selecting
talks
and
nick,
I
think
you
confirmed
right.
You
got
an
email
already
from
linux
foundation,
yeah.
A
I
already
scratched
a
a
draft
of
the
of
the
schedule
for
the
conference.
What
can
what
more
can
I
share?
We
have
16
talks
for
day
two
and
day
three,
so
eight
talks
per
day
and
day,
one
which
was
a
contributor
summit
half
of
the
day,
is
about
presentations
from
google
summer
of
code
participants
that
completed
google
summer
of
code
during
holidays.
A
They
will
have
15
minutes
long
talks
to
to
introduce
the
the
things
that
they
managed
to
to
complete
like
cuda,
that
is
on
the
call.
Then
we
will
have
a
presentation
from
the
hackathon
winner
short
presentation
on
what
was
completed
at
what
what
one
and
then
break
in
the
middle
of
the
day
and
contributor
related
presentations
from
maintainers
of
asking
api
initiative.
So
that's
one
day,
one
and
then
day
two
day,
three
is
like
eight
stocks
per
day
and
the
the
schedule
will
be
similar
to
the
conference
we
had
last
year.
A
So
it
starts
around
around
lunchtime,
at
least
for
me
always
lunchtime
is
midday
12,
I'm
12
o'clock,
and
then
we
have
a
one-hour
break
after
four
talks,
and
then
we
we
jump
into
the
time
zone
where
we
can
have
america's
participating
as
well.
So
half
of
the
half
of
the
day
is
always
for
people
that
like
we
can.
We
can
see
that
like.
If
it
comes
to
the
west
east
east
of
the
world,
the
most
active
people
in
the
community
don't
go
far
further
than
than
india
and
pakistan.
A
So
we
enable
people
from
india,
pakistan
and
then
africa
and
europe
to
participate
in
the
first
part
of
the
day,
and
then
the
schedule
is
more
friendly
for
time
zone.
For
for
america's,
it
was
the
most
fair
last
year
and
nobody
complained.
So
I
think
that
this
year
it
should
be
okay
as
well
pretty
fair
for
the
whole
community.
A
The
schedule
will
be
released
this
week,
there's
still
a
lot
of
stuff
to
organize,
like
put
it
in
some
schedule,
application
and
and
have
it
nicely
displayed
on
the
website
and
marketing
we're
gonna
start
next
week.
So
if
you
want
to
be
involved
like
I,
for
example,
I
mean
I
don't
like
clicking
so
if
somebody
wants
to
take
over
like
clicking
in
linkedin
ui
to
understand
how
to
do
some
marketing
in
linkedin
then
feel
free
to
jump
in
and
and
support
me
here.
A
A
Don't
remember
eight,
I
think
it's
in
the
email,
eighth
of
november,
I
think,
to
record
the
the
presentation.
So
basically,
the
the
conference
is
a
we're,
we're
streaming
the
recordings,
but
the
participants
they
have
to
be
there.
So
we
start.
We
start
a
talk
with
inviting
a
presenter
live
to
show
that
the
presenter
is
with
us.
Then
we
play
recording
and
the
the
presenter
or
presenters
they
are
available
for
people
that
ask
questions
in
the
comments
just
to
answer
them
and
yes,
after
the
conference,
the
whole
stream
will
be
available
on
youtube.
A
You
can
also
like
release
your
own
video,
if
you
want
like
on
your
own,
because
the
difference
between
the
videos
that
like,
for
example,
you
will
provide
the
difference
between
your
source,
video
and
and
our
video
will
be
that
on.
Our
video
will
show
the
platinum
sponsors,
because
that
was
part
of
the
deal,
what
they
get
for
the
money
for
the
conference.
A
Okay,
so
yeah,
that's
it
if
it
comes
to
the
conference
from
my
side
it
looks
pretty
good.
So
far
we
had
pretty
I'm
sometime
this
day,
maybe
or
or
next
day.
So
I'm
gonna
post
a
message
I
I
received
from
one
of
the
people
that
were
was
selecting
talks
like
nice
words
for
the
asking
api
community,
like
what
quality
of
the
talks
we
got.
So
I
think
it's
pretty
nice.
A
A
D
E
E
E
D
F
D
D
Is
that
the
wrong
way
to
look
at
it,
because
I'm
finding
with
async
api
it's
attached
to
an
application
and
therefore,
if
that
application,
a
is
wanting,
is
s
published
to
a
json
payload
of
format?
A
does
that
mean
application
b
could
publish
to
a
different
format
and
therefore
you'd
have
to
have
different
formats
for
create
customer.
D
So
I
thought
it
would
be
on
the
messaging
centered
on
the
messaging.
You
go
look
at
a
messaging
system
and
what
events
it
supports
and
it's
nearly
incidental
what
applications
are
listening
or
writing
to
it,
because
it's
the
messaging
system
that
dictates
the
format
and
how
to
you
know,
enter
in
that
event
as
create
customer.
A
So
let
me
answer
maybe
from
my
experience
and
others,
let's,
let's
jump
in
with
your
opinion,
so
before
working
full-time
on
asking
api,
I
was
working
at
sap
and
we
were
like.
I
was
involved
in
in
the
works
on
exactly
something
similar,
so
we
had
to
have
a
kind
of
discovery
of
events,
because
we
wanted
to
have
a
central
place,
central
messaging
system,
where
whatever
customer
can
come
in
and
see
like
messages
from
different
sap
applications
that
they
can
integrate
with
and
for
them
the
most
important
view
was
the
event
list.
A
They
didn't
care
much
about.
First
defining.
They
want
to
see
events
from
system
like
commerce
or
system
like
warehouse
management
or
whatever.
They
first
wanted
to
see
the
list
of
the
events,
but
then
they
still
needed
to
have
the
information
what
application
they
are
coming
from,
so
they
can
identify
like
if
they
have
similar
names
for
the
events
they
had
a
way
to
to
identify
what
other
messages
what
application
they're
coming
from.
So
I
would
say,
like
both
this
boss
is
really
needed,
like
you
need
to
as
a
customer.
A
D
Well,
so
then,
you
kind
of
agree
with
me,
like
I
kind
of
did
well,
I'm
a
very
challenging
character,
and
so
I
don't
mean
to
challenge,
because
I
know
I've
just
joined
a
minute
ago.
I
I
don't
get
it
then,
if
I'm
at
a
greenfield
site-
and
I
want
to
limit
the
amounts
of
events
created,
I
don't
want
event
sprawl
like
api
sprawl.
I
want
to
vent
a
restricted
list
of
events.
D
I
don't
want
other
people
other
end
points,
other
sap
creating
create
creating
an
event
called
customer
new
and
then
salesforce,
creating
customer
new,
too,
and
sap
and
salesforce
are
always
going
to
dislike
each
other,
and
I
don't
care
about
either
of
them.
What
I
care
about
is
there
being
one
event
for
create
customer,
because
my
enterprise
gives
a
about
create
customer,
it
doesn't
care
or
shouldn't
care
if
it
was
in.
D
A
I
mean
so
from
my
perspective,
like
I,
don't
I'm
not
sure
really
about
salesforce
like
what
is
salesforce
all
about,
except
of
probably
something
related
to
sales.
But
I
would
like
to
ask
you
a
question
then,
like
me,
would
it
like?
Is
it
normal
that
I
would
see
like
customer
created
event
from
two
different
systems
that
do
the
same?
Because
I
guess
that's
what
you
mean
like
you
have
a
subsystem.
A
D
I
agree
there
would
be
hardly
any
would
have
this
similar.
I'm
just
saying
the
onus
I
think
points
on
applications
where
the
onus
the
focus
should
have
been
on
the
queue,
so
the
queue
controls.
What
events
it's
given
pukes
out,
given
whatever
words
you
want
to
use,
publish,
subscribe,
consume,
produce
I'm
not
debating
that.
What
I'm
debating
is,
which
is
this.
I
know
where
is
the
center
of
truth?
Where
is
the
source
of
truth,
and
I
thought
async
was
going
to
be
the
source
of
single
source
of
truth.
D
But
when
I
look
at
async,
I
see
that
it's
attached
to
applications
and
therefore
I'll
have
the
all
age
adage
of
sap
doing
it
their
way
salesforce
doing
it
their
way,
netsuite
doing
it
their
way,
blah
blah
blah.
I
thought
this.
It
was
an
opportunity
to
allow
the
messaging
system
to
control
the
enterprise's
events,
so
it
doesn't
get
out
of
hand
and
that's
where
you
do
a
central
single
source
of
truth
to
discover
what
events
exists
in
this
enterprise
and
is
that
supported?
A
D
D
I
had
no
idea
about
what
asic
is
so
I've
jumped
in
full
feet
and
I'm
just
surprised
that
it's
not
cue-centric,
I'm
not,
and
I
want
to
stress-
I
don't
care
if
it's
solace,
kit
kafka
mqt,
whatever
it
is,
I'm
centered
on
that
would
be
the
single
source
of
truth
and
the
applications
have
to
play
to
that.
Instead
of
application
steering
it.
D
F
D
D
So
could
you
really
call
your
cue
yours?
What
word
should
I
use,
because
people
get
so
zealot
over
which
type
is
it
queuing?
Is
it
pubs
up?
Is
it
whatever
the
async
api,
the
asynchronous
mechanism?
Let's
call
it
that,
could
you
call
that
an
application,
and
then
you
could
put
all
the
events
on
that
application?
D
So
then
you
could
see.
You
know
that
the
solace
cue
is
an
application
and
has
all
these
events
on
it
and
therefore
you
only
allow
the
queue
or
the
stream
to
be
known
as
an
application,
and
it
has
all
the
application,
the
events
apis
on
it.
It's
just.
I
don't
want
to
be
going
around
and
trying
to
find.
F
Again,
I
think
you
you
can
do
it
and
nothing
stops
you
the
point,
the
way
it's
splitted
now.
I
think
it
also
makes
sense
because
it
could
cover
any
use
case,
so
some
other
companies
may
need
the
current
model
or
the
standard
or
default
model
which
is
just
describing
the
application
instead
of
the
whole
thing
as
you
you,
you
said,
because,
basically
you
want
to
distribute
that
and
you
don't
want
to
mix
your
models,
your
messages
between
applications.
F
D
A
And
so
george
you
joined
so
like
you
said,
like
it's
your
first
time
here
we're
hosting
a
conference
in
the
mid
of
november.
So
you
definitely
would
like
to.
I
bet
you'd
like
to
join
the
list
in
different
point
of
views,
because
there
will
be
definitely
some.
I
think
it's
not
a
secret
anymore,
because
people
got
a
got,
an
email,
a
notification,
so
there
will
be
people
from
walmart
and
and
people,
for
example,
talking
about
their
experience
in
end
users.
G
Good
question,
which
is
kind
of
like
linked
to
what
we're,
just
speaking
about
really
so
soyo,
shed
the
link
six,
the
issue
618,
which
is
this
pub
sub
confusion,
and
I
think
it
kind
of
goes
on
what
you
talked
about.
George,
about
a
way,
I
think
my
understanding
is
there.
Are
there
are
proposals
for
like
organizational
stuff,
so
I
think
in
theory
you
could
have
your
events.
G
I
think
I
think
I've
read
this
somewhere.
You
could
have
your
events
listed
and
to
make
some
kpi
files
kind
of
pointing
to
these
events
like
external
external
refs.
Now,
but
my
question,
I
guess
with
this
issue-
is
so
it
was
raised
on
the
6th
of
september.
What's
the
natural
flow
of
these
kind
of
issues,
because
this
is
kind
of
a
big
discussion
here
of
like
50,
I
think
that's
50
comments,
yeah
50
comments.
G
G
E
So
I'm
yeah.
That
is
something
that
I
still
have
to
decide,
but
I
was
think
I
was
thinking
I'm
either
converting
this
into
a
discussion,
separate
discussions,
because
I
was
seeing
that
this
issue
was
having
like
different
at
least
two
different
discussions
in
a
single
issue
that
they're
somehow
related,
but
they
don't
have
to
be
solved
at
the
same
time.
E
E
E
What
async
kpi
file,
what
an
async
paper
file
is
going
to
represent,
or
maybe
we
decide
that
it
can
represent
all
of
them
depending
on
that
and
you
have
to
set
some
kind
of
type
or
something-
and
this
is
a
library
of
events
for
the
whole
organization
or
for
your
whole
domain,
only
for
your
domain
in
case
you're
doing
the
main
driven
design
or
something
like
that.
So
you
have
to
separate
domains
and
you
have
an
asynch
file
per
domain.
E
D
Because
I
you
know,
I
I
do
believe
api
sprawl
is
a
very
real
problem,
and
events
will
be
event.
Sprawl
will
be
a
very
real
problem,
so
I
think
an
article
on
thing
and
maybe
saying
by
default
position
at
the
greenfield
sites.
If
you're
new
to
eventing
is
trying
not
to
have
a
domain
specific
events
and
have
general,
but
as
long
as
there's
some
good
examples
written
by
recognized
leaders,
then
I
think
that's
a
suffice.
I
I
like
the
idea
that
you've
said
no.
D
E
Yeah,
so
the
thing
here
is
that
for
some
people,
messaging
means
a
broker
or
messaging
system
and
for
some
people
messaging
means
client
server,
websocket
like,
for
instance,
browser
and
a
websocket
server.
So
there
is
no
broker
or
messaging
system
at
all.
So
in
this
case
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
have
like
a
collection
of
available
messages
for
your
messaging
system
because,
like
I
said,
there's
no
messaging
system,
it's
only
just
your
application.
E
Your
server
application,
your
in
your
client
application,
so
that
these
two
kind
of
like
broker-based,
architectures
and
client,
server,
point-to-point
application
or
client
server,
not
point-to-point
applications
like
web
sockets
and
browsers
are
two
different,
very
different
use
cases
that
are
always
like.
Whenever
we
make
a
decision
like
hey.
Let's
adopt
this
way
of
doing
things,
that
is
cool
for
brokers.
It's
not
cool
for
client
server.
E
E
E
G
There's
just
one
more
comment:
yes,
george,
you
mentioned
event
like
spewal
across
your
domain
and
stuff.
I
guess
outside
outside
of
her
external
systems
and
stuff.
You
can't
really
control
too
much,
but
there's
some
good.
I
think,
there's
some
interesting
work.
You
might
I'll
share
a
link
now
sergio's
working
on
this,
but
with
the
async
api
file
and
your
broker,
you
can
validate
your
messages.
D
D
I
consider
myself
not
stupid,
and
so,
if
I
can
make
and
20
years
in
I.t,
if
I
make
this
assumption
wrong
by
just
simply
looking
at
it
and
coming
in,
I
think
this
the
specification
must
educate,
we
part
of
it
must
be
educational,
and
so
it
must
surface
this
different
use
cases
that
it
supports
I.e,
broker
or
client
server.
But
when
I
look
at
it
now
I
don't
get
that
from
the
spec.
So
I
think
that
really
is
important
that
it's
built
into
it.
So
people
that
are
just
supposedly
brainy
and
experienced
don't
make
this.
A
Okay,
so
before
the
end
just
a
kind
reminder
tomorrow,
we
have
the
it's
a
time
for
contributor.
First
meetings,
this
live
streams,
it's
going
to
be
again
at
8,
00
am
utc
and
4
pm
utc,
so
feel
invited
to
join
the
meetings
with
details
on
how
to
join.
They
will
be
available
under
this
link
that
I
just
pasted
I'll,
create
the
create
them
after
the
meeting
feel
invited
to
join.