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From YouTube: Career Empowerment and Embracing Equity in Tech
Description
Panel discussion on the challenges women face in tech and strategies that can be put in place to improve equity and empowerment.
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Okay,
I
think
I'm
audible
enough.
All
right,
then,
okay,
cool,
all
right.
Let's
get
started
I've
been
reassing
for
a
perfect
introduction
today,
I
think
for
the
past
two
hours
before
the
live
stream
started.
I've
been
reacting
of
a
perfect
looking
for
a
perfect
way
to
introduce
our
panel
today.
But
anyway,
if
you
know
me,
I
go
with
the
floor
so
without
any
further
Ado.
So
today
we'll
be
talking
about
career
empowerment
and
embracing
equity
in
Tech
by
the
way
happy
International
women's
day.
A
So
we
have
a
very
awesome
panel
today
and
I
cannot
wait
to
bring
them
on
stage.
They
are
backstage
I'm
sure
they
are
as
excited
as
I
am
today,
because
I'm
very
excited
to
listen
to
learn
and
also
to
interact
with
these.
Ladies
and
today
is
going
to
be
awesome
and
very
informative.
So
without
any
further
ado,
let
me
bring
on
stage
Manero
all
the
way
from
Lesotho:
hey,
Manuel,
hey
Italy.
How
are
you
doing
I'm,
good
and
ye
I'm
perfect?
A
C
A
B
A
A
Me
I
can't
believe
it's
already
two
years
this
day,
yeah
anyway,
that's
a
story
for
another
day.
So,
ladies,
would
you
like
to
introduce
yourselves?
What
do
you
do?
Who
you
are
so
the
audience
can
get
to
know
you
better.
C
Okay,
because
I
came
into
the
stage
last
I
didn't
expect
me:
yes,
yeah
so
hi
everyone,
my
name
is
Victoria
I'm,
a
Solutions
engineer
at
PayPal
and
I
work
on
a
tech
blog
part
as
my
side
hustle.
So
my
blog
is
at
low-victoria.com
and
yeah
and
I'm
tumi's
friend.
That's
part
of
my
introduction
yeah.
So
I'm
really
happy
to
be
here.
So
thanks
so
much
Tui
for
inviting
me
and
yeah
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
talk
to
everyone
here
today.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
honoring
the
invite
by
the
way,
I
know
you're
very
busy
if
somebody
is
busy
as
Victoria
can
make
it
here,
I
really
appreciate
for
taking
your
time
to
come
here
next
person
who
came
in
second
to
the
last
okay
Sam.
Is
it
Sam
more
precious.
D
Sure
hi
everyone
I
am
samridhi
I,
am
application
developer
at
thoughtworks,
and
also
an
open
source
Enthusiast
apart
from
this,
like
I,
am
also
a
member
of
green
software
foundation
and
TSC
member
API,
and
thanks
to
Lee
for
having
me
here
and
I,
would
like
to
like
happy
International
Women's
Day
to
all
the
beautiful
women's
out
there.
D
A
You
so
much
hey
you
guys.
I
forgot,
happy
International
women's
day,
all
right,
precious
see
you
next.
E
Hi
everyone,
my
name,
is
precious
I.
Am
a
technical
writer
I,
contribute
to
open
source
of
chaos
and
like
a
bunch
of
other
owners,
because
generally
I,
like
them
and
I'm,
very
conscious
about
diversity
and
how
we
can
like
increase,
try
to
then
reduce
the
diversity
Gap.
So
most
of
the
time,
I
try
my
best
to
involve
in
initiatives.
Excuse
me
so
I
contribute
and
I
helped
facilitate
the
other
projects,
the
local
project
here
in
Nigeria,
and
we
help
Empower
women
to
acquire
Tech
skills
and
different
tracks
and
yeah.
Also.
F
E
A
Thank
you
so
much
precious.
Thank
you!
So
much
for
honoring
us
I
made
money
or
last
year
it's
it's.
What
was
the
event
called
again.
A
F
I'm
from
Lesotho
I
run
a
program
called
girls
coding
Academy
here
in
Lesotho
and
I
work
at
a
Revenue,
Services
application
developer
now
into
business
analyst
and
I'm,
a
mentor
in
two
women
Google
women,
take
makers
in
the
southern
African
countries
and
I'm
also
an
ambassador
of
Google
women,
take
makers
and
leave
organic
Google
Lead
organizer
here
in
Lesotho.
Thank
you.
A
Do
let's
get
right
to
the
help
of
child
GPT
I
came
up
with
a
few
questions
like
I
said:
I
would
try
as
possible
as
much
possible
to
follow
the
script
that
I
wrote
the
program
that
I
wrote
so
without
any
without
wasting
time.
Let's
get
right
to
it.
So
with
the
first
thing
on
our
agenda
right
is
to
discuss
your
personal
experiences
in
Tech.
We
talk
about
the
challenges
we
all
been
through
a
lot
of
challenges,
especially
breaking
into
Tech
right
as
women,
so
I
would
love
to
hear
from
you.
A
F
F
What
was
the
computer
I
saw
it
at
the
University
level,
so
I
advocated
and
go
around
Lesotho
where
I
talked
to
girls
so
that
they
don't
feel
the
way
I
felt,
but
based
on
the
environment
that
we
had
I
saw
that
there's
nobody.
We
do
not
have
such
programs,
and
that
is
when
I
started
to
have
the
center.
That
I
have
at
the
moment
where
I'm
advocating
for
girls
to
be
part
of
the
programs.
I
believe
those
are
the
challenges
that
I
have.
There
are
many,
but
I
would
let
the
other,
ladies
to
talk.
D
So,
for
me,
like,
like
I,
never
thought
I
would
be
like
I
would
become
a
software
engineer.
I
actually
wanted
to
pursue
my
career
in
the
physics
but
like
I,
eventually
and
end
up
here
in
the
software
engineering
and
now
I'm
really
liking
it,
and
the
hurdles
and
the
journey
from
physics
to
the
computer.
D
Science
was
really
like
a
learning
and
very
curve
shaping
for
me
because
a
lot
of
huddles
a
lot
of
obstacles
that
I've
faced
during
this
journey,
but
all
together,
it
was
a
great
learning
for
me
and
now
I'm,
really
enjoying
my
work
and
whatsoever.
I
do
in
the
tech
field
and
whatever
I
can
do
to
make
it
more
valuable
and
bring
up
the
good
software
for
our
society.
E
The
core
issue
for
me
was
finding
out
that
these
things
could
be
done.
I
didn't
start
like
initially,
it
was
not
something
that
was
so
popular
and
like
it
did
not
seem
like
it
had
a
future
setup,
but
I
kind
of
liked.
It
so.
E
This
is
something
that
I
want
to
do,
and
I
pay
a
lot
of
back
and
forth.
I
was
allowed
to
go
to
school,
to
study,
computer
science
and
I
bought
and
like
even
during
the
period
you've
had
like
spaces
where
you
don't
you
don't
know
a
lot
of
people
who
are
learning
the
same
thing
as
you
or
maybe
if
people
are
not
taking
that
seriously.
E
As
you
are,
so
you
kind
of
have
to
find
people
who
believe
in
symptoms
that
you
do
or
come
like
sitting
the
same
way
that
you
do
so
for
the
most
part,
the
issue
for
me
at
the
beginning
was
finding
a
good
support
system
or
finding
people
who
thought
that
these
students
could
be
done,
but,
like
subsequently,
when
you
find
when
you
actually
find
your
own
people
and
like
your
circle,
what
happens
outside
you
know
like
there
are
people
who
have
actually
done
these
things
before
you
and
you
know,
they've
excelled
at
it.
G
C
Wow,
so
everyone's
stories
are
really
inspiring
I.
Personally,
don't
have
such
a
a
great
story,
but
actually
you
probably
know
this
but
I'm
a
self-taught
developer,
so
I
don't
actually
graduate
with
a
formal
computer
science
degree
and
actually
now
that
I
look
back
one
of
the
reasons.
Why
is
because
I
think
the
people
around
me
just
saying?
C
Oh,
like
girls,
can't
code
or
like
no,
it's
there's
no
point
choosing
programming,
even
though
I
liked
it
since
high
school,
but
I
just
never
thought
that
it
could
be
a
career
for
me
just
because
I
don't
think
anyone
around
me
actually
believes
that
I
am
meant
for
this
path
and
probably
because
of
my
gender
and
for
many
reasons
as
well,
but
that's
why
I
never
thought
that
I
could
choose
this
path
and
when
I
realized
that
this
is
was
the
one
for
me.
C
I
had
to
kind
of
self-taught
myself,
and
that
was
the
journey
that
I
would
say
was
the
hardest
for
me,
because
there
wasn't
a
set
syllabus
I,
don't
I,
don't
really
know
what
to
study
exactly
where
to
start
start
with
even
I,
don't
have
a
mentor
or
teacher.
So
yeah
that
part
just
navigating
that
was
quite
a
challenge
and
I
wish
at
that
time.
A
I'm
sure,
most
of
you
know
my
story
as
well,
but
I'll
just
touch
on
it
like
breaking
into
Tech
I'm,
also
self-taught
as
well.
I,
don't
have
informal
education
so
like
when
I
was
looking
for
a
job
I
was
sold.
You
were
a
mom,
you
don't
have
time
to
commit
to
work
because
you
are
busy
with
other
things:
family
stuff.
You
don't
really
have
time
so
they're
rather
opt
to
hire
someone
else
without
before
me,
because
they
think
that
my
commitments
are
divided.
A
So
those
are
some
of
the
challenges
that
I
ought
to
overcome
and
to
become
the
person
that
I
am
today
and
especially
when
it
comes
to
career
empowerment
forward.
Ladies
I'm,
here
to
help
people's
ladies
hands
and
say
you
can
do
it
because
I've
done
it,
it's
not
easy!
It
wasn't
easy
for
me.
We
still
have
a
long
way
to
go,
but
this
is
the
reason
why
we
are
having
such
talks
today
to
discuss
these
challenges
to
see
a
Way
Forward.
How
do
we
move
forward
from
this?
How
do
we
break
down?
A
How
do
we
make
sure?
How
do
we
lower
the
barrier
for
women
in
Tech
to
venture
into
this
career,
despite
being
a
mother
despite
being
a
girl
despite
being
a
minority,
so
this
leads
us
to
the
second
thing
on
our
agenda
Embrace,
why
is
equity
important
when
we
talk
about
Equity?
We
thought
we
touch
a
lot
of
topics.
We
talked
about
equal
pay,
We
Touch
about
equal
opportunities
for
everyone.
So
I
would
like
to
hear
from
you.
Why
is
equity
and
empowerment,
so
important,
Victoria.
C
Okay,
yeah
I
guess
I
can
go
first,
this
time,
so
I
think
from
my
experience
it
Equity
itself
is
important
just
because
we
want
everyone
to
have
equal
opportunities,
equal
ways
to
shine
equal
ways
to
show
their
skills,
I
think
a
lot
of
times.
The
reason
why
girls
in
general
are
afraid
to
pursue
careers
in
stem
is
because
there's
always
that
stigma
that
oh
girls
are
just
not
that
good
in
stem
kind
of
subjects
compared
to
men.
So
there's
always
that
kind
of
stigma,
and
we
just
we're
not
saying
that.
C
Oh,
we
need
to
like
be
the
majority
or
anything
like
Equity
is
just
about
giving
everyone
the
Equal
Opportunity.
That's
what
I
believe
in
so
we're
just
trying
to
basically
spread
that
that
message
to
girls,
that
you
know
you
can
be
whatever
you
want
to
be
yeah.
So
that's
why
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
start
spreading.
That
message
since,
like
two
young
girls
as
well.
F
Just
today,
I
just
talked
with
my
co-worker
here
where
she
talked
he
talked
up.
She
talked
about
that.
If
you
want
somebody
who
can
talk
and
then
you
can
do
that,
but
if
you
want
somebody
who
can
Implement
and
do
something
a
woman
can
do
that
so
I
believe
women
are
capable
of
doing
things
just
that
we
shy
away
of
some
things
and
we
want
to.
We
need
a
platform
like
these
ones,
where
you
can
express
your
stories
and
maybe
explore
into
this
term.
F
D
So
like
in
India,
we
there
is
a
line
we
always
use
for
women's.
D
So
this
means
like
we
are
promoting
the
women's
like
this
from
the
scenario
back
in
from
our
histories
in
the
past
years,
and
now
we
are
promoting
women
in
the
taken
in
every
field.
Even
it's
not
particularly
take.
So
that's
how
we
are
showing
like
now
we
are
changing
our
mindset
in
thought
processes
like
no
like
there
is
nothing
a
difference.
It's
us
who
are
creating
difference
so
by
bringing
up
the
equity
like
and
providing
the
opportunity
it
to
both
men
and
women,
without
being
biased
on
the
agendas
it
will
provide
them.
D
Everybody
a
platform
to
Showcase
their
talent
and
also,
let
them
prove
themselves
that
nobody
is
like
here
to
judge
them
like
just
to
prove
yourself.
Who,
You,
Are,.
E
Typing
kind
of
lets:
everybody
know
that
there
is
easy
for
the
people
he
gets
like
I
have
I
have
space
here.
To
like
my
agenda
is
not
the
reason
why
I
can't
code
or
I
can
be
a
really
good
designer
or
I
can
be
a
good
Cloud
architect.
Something
like
that.
E
So
you
basically
give
space
to
everybody,
and
it
lets
us
know
that,
regardless
of
my
inclination,
let's
say
I
I
prefer
estate
things
or
I
I,
don't
want
to
call
bouncing
something
in
no
code
but
still
Tech
anyway,
so
Tech
is
more
than
like
code,
so
I'm
I
think
Equity
also
includes
the
fact
that
not
everybody
has
to
code.
A
That's
true,
that's
true!
So
now
we
are
getting
deeper
into
the
conversation.
So
I
would
like
to
hear
your
thoughts
on
the
current
state
of
equity
and
empowerment,
detect.
What
are
your
real
thoughts
like?
Currently,
what
do
you
think
is
the
major
issue
here
we're
starting
to
get
on
the
real
stuff.
So
what
are
your
thoughts
in
this
current
state
of
equity
and
empowerment
in
Tech?
F
I
I
think,
based
on
the
current
location,
where
I
am
at
the
moment.
We
are.
We,
as
women
are
consumers
of
technology
and
we
are
not
inventors
or
creators
or
sometimes
have
created
systems.
F
Technology
is
not
yet
appreciated
and,
like
other
countries,
so
I
still
believe
that
we
still
have
to
have
a
stake
into
the
technology
environment.
The
women
still
needs
to
be
empowered,
some
sort,
because
some
still
do
not
earn
appreciate
the
technology
they
use
smartphones.
They
use
every
kind
of
attack
project
here
in
the
country,
but
they
are
not
inventors.
F
D
I
totally
agree
with
Mayu
that
we
still
need
a
lot
of
improvement
in
this
particular
area,
like
we
still
lack
lag
behind
a
lot
because
they
are
like,
even
though
we
talk
about
the
empowerment
and
Equity,
but
it's
still
like
if
we
see
in
our
surroundings,
so
we
all
have
been
faced
this
thing
in
with
our
in
our
teams
in
it
at
our
places
at
any
point
of
time
in
our
lifetime.
D
C
Yes,
I
agree
with
both
of
their
points.
I
think
they're,
really
good.
I
also
want
to
add
on
that.
Even
in
my
day-to-day
job,
like
in
the
company
I
see
that
there
are
fewer
women
Engineers,
like
significantly
less,
even
though
my
company
is
like
actively
trying
to
have
that
policy
to
empower
women
and
like
hire
more
women
Engineers,
but
it's
just
inevitable
that
you
see
that
there
are
less
female
Engineers
around
and
I.
Think
it's
partly
it's
already,
because
there's
that
stigma,
there's
that
subtle
lack
of
support.
C
Lack
of
like
really
that
this
I
wouldn't
say
it's
like
they
are
like
explicitly
discriminating
us.
It's
not
like
that,
but
it's
more
like
it's
just
there's
that
that
lack
of
support.
Basically
that
empowers
us
that
wants
us
that
elevates
us
to
the
next
to
the
next
level
and
that's
what
I,
observe
and
I
see
that
a
lot
of
times
like
we
women,
it's
just
that
it's
not
like.
We
can't
be
great
Engineers
or
anything,
it's
just
that.
C
Maybe
people
always
think
that
we
might
have
other
priorities
like
for
you
to
leave,
for
example,
their
working
mom
like
that,
and
so
because
of
those
small
kind
of
conditions
that
might
make
people
perceive
us
that
that's
something
that
could
hold
us
back
from
our
potential
yeah.
So
that's
something
that
I
think
we
need
to
address,
and
not
only
in
terms
of
company
policies,
but
also
in
terms
of
just
cultural,
cultural
and
just
the
societal
kind
of
norms
and
all
together.
E
Precious
they
like
before
I,
don't
like
what's
just
that
size
anyway,
but
I
agree
with
Sam's
points
of
we
have
to
be
the
ones
driving
this
whole
thing
there's
been
significant
Improvement,
because
if
you
want
to
check
through
the
years
there's
been,
there
will
definitely
seen
more
women
like
lead
and
sports
income
cases,
but
same
time
it
doesn't
mean
that
there
is
still
no
place
for
improvement
right
still.
Obviously,
we
work
in
Tech
now
a
few
years
ago.
E
It
will
probably
have
been
a
little
harder
to
have
like
all
of
us
here
and
to
talk
about
this,
so
that,
but
there's
still
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
and
I.
Think,
like
Sam
said
we
are
the
ones
that
are
going
to
help
out
with
this
game.
So
in
our
little
ways
it
could
be
mentoring,
people
it
could
be
recommending
somebody
for
a
role.
It
could
be
putting
a
good
word
for
somebody.
E
A
I
also
agree
like
we
need
to
help
each
other
provide
more
mentorship
programs
provide
assistance
here
in
the
equal
opportunities.
If
my
my
other
contact
can
get
it,
why
can't
I
get
it
so
like
Pro?
This
leads
me
to
the
next
question
as
well.
Is
there
a
progress
being
made
so
far,
or
are
we
still
in
the
loan?
We
still
have
a
long
way
to
go.
What
do
you
think
Sam.
D
I
think
we
still
have
a
long
way
to
go
in
this
field
because
of
like
there
are
a
lot
of
lackness
and
things
so
like.
D
Maybe
we
can
just
come
up
with
some
different
approaches
and
solution
to
fill
that
Gap
actually,
and
maybe
then
only
we
can
just
just
work
on
this
particular
thing
and
fill
in
the
Gap
and
by
approaches
I
mean
like
we
can
bring
up
different
different
programs
like
a
mentorship
program,
awareness
programs
in
the
society
like
so
that
we
can
tell
people
like
it's,
not
a
men
or
women
it's
like
about.
D
C
Yes,
I
agree
with
Sam
as
well
on
this
I
think
that
it's
we're
still
a
long
way
to
go.
There
has
been
small
progress,
I
would
say
over
the
last
few
decades,
but
it's
still
minimal
and
it
does
not
produce
enough
results.
Yet
we
haven't
seen
a
significant
change
to
be
very
honest.
So
that's
why?
C
What
actually?
What
Sam
suggests
mentorship
is
always
a
good
thing.
Another
thing
that
I
would
like
to
add
on
is
maybe
celebrating
more
women
accomplishments,
so
maybe
highlighting
achievements
like
just
supporting
each
other.
Also,
actually,
today,
at
my
company,
we
even
celebrate
International
women's
day,
so
those
are
like
the
little
things
that
our
workplaces
could
do.
Our
our
organizations
could
do
for
us
is
just
celebrating
those
achievements
and
just
recognizing
that
this
is
a
social
issue
and
like
we're
trying
to
basically
help
each
other
out.
B
F
I
agree
with
Victoria
and
the
other
ladies
I
still
believe
you
are
still
have
a
long
way
to
go
eh
to
see
to
it.
That
other
ladies
appreciate
this
environment
of
Technology,
because
we
are
still
in
a
stigma
that
I
made
and
science
are
very
difficult,
but
this
time
around
we
have
all
the
resources
even
on
internet
everywhere
is
just
to
support
us.
Even
we
have
women
like
events
like
these
ones,
where
women
can
express
their
difficulties.
F
They
are
issued
without
being
judged,
but
still
there
are
still
few
women
into
this
Tech
environment,
so
I
still
still
need
to
have
to
do
more,
advocating
to
do
more
events
to
do
to
be
appreciated,
to
be
given
appreciation
as
women
to
be
given
mentorship
as
women,
and
also
go
to
the
crowds
crowns
Roots
very
mental
as
little
as
a
kid
of
five
years
or
younger
than
that,
so
that
they
know
that
this
you
need
to.
You
can
be
anything
in
their
around
the
world.
Yes,
thank
you.
E
Well,
like
I
said,
there's
been
a
little
progress
for
Augustine,
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
and
has
most
of
as
I've
already
said,
part
of
the
ways
that
we
can
do
like
more
work
is
by
mentorship.
It
could
be
like
in
Victoria
said
by
celebrating
more
women.
E
It
could
also
be
by
raising
awareness
and
letting
like
the
reason
why
we
have
this
issue
right
now
is
because
maybe
that
was
the
whole
stigma
of
girls-
probably
should
not
be
in
court
or
should
not
be
it's
not
cold
or
should
not
be
entire
thing
right.
But
if
the
generation
coming
after
us
don't
have
the
same
mindset
like
if
we
let
them
know
that
these
things
are
possibly
regardless
of
gender,
then
it
kind
of
like
helps
reduce
the
amount
of
people
that
you
would
have
to
change.
Their
mindset
to.
E
Let
them
know
that
anything
is
possible,
so
I
think
part
of
the
ways
we
can
help
close
the
gap
faster
is
to
reduce
the
amount
of
people
that
would
have
to
let
them
know
that
there
is
actually
a
gap.
So
we
could
do
this
by
starting
from
again
like
doing
more
awareness
for
even
the
younger
ones,
so
from
a
young
age.
You
know
that
I
can
actually
do
this
anymore.
A
Okay,
I
think
you
you
can
rejoin
it
all
right.
So,
while
we
continue
with
the
talk,
I
also
think
that
we
still
have
a
long
way
to
go,
but
at
the
very
same
time
we
do
have
initiatives
that
I
put
in
place
right
like,
for
example,
at
I,
think
API.
We
have
a
mentorship
program
and
we
see
very
little
women.
D
A
Few
women
coming
to
the
project
to
apply
or
to
try
out
to
try
out
the
projects
so
now
in
as
much
as
we
have
this
kind
of
initiatives
and
then
there's
few
women
that
are
applying
or
are
coming
through
so
now.
It
leads
me
to
the
next
questions
for
us
to
address
this.
How
what
are
the
really
the
obstacles
that
women
are
currently
facing,
and
how
can
we
address
those
obstacles
in
order
for
us
like
to
make
the
progress
very
significant,
so
any
your
thoughts,
Victoria.
C
Yep,
oh,
how
about
we
let
Shruti
come
on
right.
A
G
So
sorry
got
a
little
late,
I'm,
Shruti
and
I'm,
currently
a
design
engineer
in
Advanced
Micro
Devices,
which
is
a
semiconductor
firm.
So
we
manufacture
our
chips
for
laptops
and
any
of
many
other
electronic
devices
and
based
out
of
Singapore
and
I
I
came
here
to
do
my
masters
in
electronics.
I
did
my
bachelors
in
India
and
I've
been
here
for
close
to
five
years
now.
So
it's
been
a
good
journey
so
far,
and
that's
me
in
a
nutshell,
and
if
I
have
to
talk
about
challenges.
G
I
think
like
coming
here
from
India
itself
was
a
big
challenge
for
me,
like
being
from
a
very
conservative
background,
it's
not
easy
for
a
woman
to
venture
out
or
out
of
their
country
and
come
to
another
country
where
they
don't
know.
Anyone
and
surely.
D
G
I
came
here,
it
was
a
big
culture
shock
for
me,
so
to
adapt
to
that
and
then
also
carry
on
with
the
studies
and
then
I'll
graduate
and
get
a
job
I
think
it's
a
I
think
many
of
us
can
relate
with
such
a
journey.
I
think
we
all
have
kind
of
would
have
ventured
out
at
some
point
from
our
comfort
zone,
so
I'm
sure
like
we
all,
can
relate
to
the
challenges
that
come
with
that
and
how
we
overcome
that
and
try
to
make
a
path
for
ourselves.
G
A
C
G
Why
do
we
think
it's
important
because
I
think
it's
not
first
of
all
spoken
enough
except
like
around
probably
women's
day
or
something
we
heard
it
a
lot
and
we
speak
about
it
a
lot
and
then,
after
a
few
days,
I
don't
know
it
just
goes
goes
into
the
Oblivion
and
then
we
come
back
to
it
again
every
year
with
the
hope
of
renewing
it
with
new
motivation.
G
But
the
key
is
to
like
be
consistent
with
our
efforts
in
making
Equity
a
reality
to
all
the
people
and
also
career
empowerment
is
the
same
thing.
So
that's
why
I
think
it's
important
to
I
like
the
more
we
talk
about
it,
I
think
the
more
it
creates
the
impact.
G
G
And
if
you
look
at
startups,
it's
even
less
like
almost
zero.
But
if
you
see
in
larger
corporations,
there
are-
and
the
number
is
increasing-
that's
what
I'm
seeing
the
current
Trend
to
be
when
I
was
studying.
Here
we
had
like-
probably
one
third
of
the
class.
There
was
women
and
I
do
see
that
my
juniors
there
are
more
women
out
there
and
they
are
all
venturing
into
Tech
space.
G
So
it
is
growing,
but
the
rate
is
very
slow
and
there
are
many
other
factors
also
which
influencer
like
we're
all
young,
that
that
awesome,
you
know.
Sometimes
hiring
managers
may
have
some
preconceived
buyers
towards
hiring
women
and.
G
Lead
to
less
representation
so
but
overall
I
do
see
growth,
but
it's
very
slow
and
there's
a
lot
of
mentoring
and
training
opportunities,
professional
development
opportunities
happening
recently.
I
went
and
attended
a
hackathon
which
was
for
girls
who
are
aged
10
to
18
years
old,
and
they
have
tremendous
Talent.
They
were
able
to
come
up
with
an
app
or
a
website
within
a
matter
of
two
days.
That
really
shows
like.
G
It
really
gives
me
hope
that
you
know
future
generation,
it's
bright
for
women
out
there
to
get
into
the
tech
space,
because
I
I
didn't
see
myself
doing
so
much
of
coding
or
developing
an
app
when
I
was
around
10
to
18..
So
there's.
G
Exposure
these
days
and
I
think
you
know
if
girls
are
gonna
leverage
it
the
light
right
way,
they'll
definitely
make
it
into
the
Dead
Space.
A
That's
true
so,
which
leads
me
to
the
next
question.
Like
we
have
all
these
programs,
we
have
initiatives,
we
have
mentorship
programs
that
are
dedicated
to
bring
women
in,
but
then
I
do
or
I
believe
that
you
all
can
agree
with
me
that
there's
some
gatekeeping
at
some
point
right-
and
this
leads
us
to
the
growth
being
slow
to
the
progress
being
slow
so
like
what
are
the
biggest
challenges
that
women
are
facing,
and
what
are
the
solutions
that
we
can
come
up
to
address
these
obstacles
over
to
you,
Manuel.
F
I
think
at
the
moment
the
resources
are
there,
but
it's
us
as
women
to
tap
into
those
opportunities
that
are
already
given
to
us,
because
I
think
the
society
has
made
it
easy
for
us,
where
we
advocate
for
women
to
be
protected,
women
to
be
given
opportunities
and
their
resources
like
they
say
that
we
will
talk
about
this.
How
we
support
women
today,
because
as
women
International
Women's
Day
next
year,
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
same
thing,
but
yet
the
women.
F
We
have
talked
about
the
opportunities
that
they
can
tap
into,
but
they
do
not
tap
into
those
opportunities.
I
still
believe
we
as
women.
We
need
to
have
self-confidence
that
we
need
to
be
part
of
this.
Industry
is
still
made
for
us
as
women,
and
we
can
make
it
either
by
pushing
ourselves,
because
here,
like
now,
the
speakers
some
have
done
without
even
going
the
career
school,
they
Implement,
they
know
how
to
code
by
teaching
themselves
using
the
same
resources.
F
So
if
somebody
can
do
that,
they
can
go
to
school
and
graduate
so
I
believe
we
have
a
choice
and
we
have
opportunities.
I
believe
that
we
have
to
step
up
and
do
what
we
have
to
do
just
to
see
that
we
have
we
can,
we
can
be
part
of,
we
can
break
this
gender
gap
and
the
other
thing
I
still
believe
we
still
have
to
advocate
for
women
where
they
do
not
have
this
kind
of
resources,
because
there
are
communities
where
they
do
not
have
access
to
Internet.
F
They
do
not
have
access
to
computers,
they
do
not
access
to
schooling
or
any
kind
of
resources,
so
those
kind
of
communities
we
are
and
part
of
the
people
who
are
listening.
We
are
responsible
to
see
to
eat
that
they
tap
into
and
get
this
kind
of
opportunities
and
see
that
women
are
empowered
into
Tech.
Thank
you,
precious.
E
Every
woman
you
said
I
think
that
as
much
as
there
is
like
the
whole
growth
and
it's
been
slow
and
then
there's
no
kiss
keeping
thing
we
kind
of
like
have
to
have
to
fully
embrace
the
opportunities
that
are
out
there
and,
aside
from
embracing
the
opportunities
that
implementing
you
kind
of
like
it's
going
to
be
too
tough
but
I
think
there's
also
the
initiatives
there's
also
the
space
to
create
the
opportunities
for
yourself.
Okay.
So
the
reason
why
startups
exist
is
because
somebody
identify
the
problem
and
decided
I
think
fix
something
like
this.
E
E
Then
I
think
you
should
be
willing
to
fight
them
off
to
get
it
and
as
much
as
that
that
part
is
there,
there's
also
the
fact
that
sometimes
some
of
these
things
may
not
be
in
your
control,
then
that's
where
support
the
system
is
coming
right
and
like
having
older
mentors
like
people
have
been
in
this
system
for
you.
So
when
you
get
into
this
species
or
you're
probably
keep
doing,
and
you
are
facing
some
kind
of
obstacle-
that's
beyond
your
power,
then
you
can
always
ask
for
help
from
somebody.
That's
more
advanced.
E
It's
really,
the
the
probably
will
tell
you
how
they
fixed
something
similar
and
they
were
able
to
navigate
it.
That
sort
of
thing.
So
basically
it's
creating
it's
one:
learning
how
to
create
opportunities
for
yourself.
It's
also
learning
how
to
push
against
certain
biases
or
obstacles
and
I've
been
away,
and
then
it's
also
having
like
a
good
Community
around
that
you
could
always
go
to
for
support.
A
G
Yeah
I
totally
agree
with
what
precious
had
said.
We
do
face
a
lot
of
obstacles
and
I
feel
inherently
I.
Think
at
least
from
what
I
have
noticed.
Many
of
us
have
a
tendency
to.
You
know,
try
to
solve
the
problem
ourselves
and
we
take
as
much
time
as
possible
and
try
to
be
independent
and
not
ask
someone
for
help,
but
probably
sometimes
that
expedites
are.
You
know,
work
or
the
process
that
we
are
doing
and
the
more
we
reach
out
the
more
there's.
G
We
realize
that
there's
more
support
for
us
and
we
can
get
through
it,
whatever
we
are
doing,
whatever
output,
we
want
to
get
it's
more
easier
to
reach
that
goal,
and
it
is
important
to
have
a
mentor
that
way
who
can
help
help
you
and
guide
you
through
your
careers
ups
and
downs,
because
once
out
of
college
and
into
the
into
the
workforce,
it's
like
being
left
alone
in
a
forest
trying
to
find
your
way
out.
So
you
definitely
need
a
someone
who's
more
experienced
seasoned
Mentor.
G
Who
can
help
you
through
that
and
in
and
like
I
said
previously,
there
must
be
I'm
seeing
this
in
a
lot
of
organizations,
even
in
my
organization.
Currently
there
is
this
unconscious
bias,
training
that
is
given
to
all
the
managers
which
would
help
them
to
hire
without
any
bias
in
their
minds.
So
whenever
the
screen
candidates,
they
are
screening
without
a
very
logical
mind
and
do
not
have
any
preconceived
notions.
So
there
is
equal
opportunity
created
for
both
men
and
women
and
finally,
I
would
say
a
mindset.
G
Change
has
to
happen,
no
matter
what
is
said
and
done.
It
must
come
from
the
mindset
of
a
person
that
they
want
to
provide
equal
opportunities
to
everyone
if,
whatever
unconscious
bias,
training
or
whatever
else
is
done.
But
if
their
mindset
is
stuck
with,
you
know
trying
to
just
promote
one
one
thing
or
the
other
and
it's
not
unbiased.
Then
it
doesn't
change,
because
I
have
seen
that
many
times
when
the
upper
management
of
a
company
changes.
G
The
entire
company
culture
has
a
great
impact
because
whatever
they
do,
it
keeps
seeping
down
to
lower
levels
and
it
impacts
us
in
our
daily
Workforce
and
the
work
culture.
So
I
really
believe
that
if
the
upper
management
has
a
very
good
inclusive
culture,
then
it
would
really
promote
better
or
equivalent
empowerment
for
everyone.
C
But
yeah
I,
definitely
I,
don't
have
to
say,
like
I
was
like
formulating
the
the
sentences
in
my
mind
and
oh,
they
will
like
hit
all
those
boys
so
yeah,
but
I
definitely
Echo
with
what
Trudy
precious
and
money
have
to
say,
and
it's
like.
We
always
talk
about
like
external
obstacles.
Right
like
the
gatekeeping.
The
policies
like
you
know
like
there
are
external
obstacles,
but
I
feel
like
as
women.
We
also
have
to
overcome
our
internal
obstacles,
which
is
our
level
of
confidence.
C
We
need
to
be
able
to
speak
out
like
in
the
meeting
room,
we're
full
of
men.
We
just
need
to
be
confident
of
ourselves
and
like
speak,
what
we
want
to
give
constructive
feedback
to
our
co-workers,
whether
they're
men
and
women,
so
just
that
coming
from
within
I,
think
that
is
an
inner
internal
obstacle
that
we
can
also
teach
girls
and
women
around
the
world
to
overcome
and
when
I
think
about
like
how
do
we
overcome
this
internal
obstacle?
C
I
think
what
we
women
do
best
is
I
personally
think
is
we
can
hype
Each
Other
Well
we
can
like
yeah
go
girl
like
you
know,
like
that's
something
that
I
think
I'm
proud
of
as
a
woman
is
like
we
can
just
support
each
other,
like
woman.
Supporting
woman
is
really
very
easy
like
for
me
at
least
I'm.
That's
why
I'm
very
proud
to
join
a
woman
who
code
and
I'm
very
proud
to
like
just
be
be
part
of
an
organization
that
empowers
women.
C
So
that's
why,
in
terms
of
like
building
the
inner
confidence,
it's
something
that
I
personally
struggled
with
in
my
tech
journey
and
I,
think
that
if
I
had
found
like
this
group
of
ladies
and
like
this
support
system
like
early
in
my
journey,
maybe
that
could
have
helped
me
better.
That
could
have
helped
me
achieve
what
I
had
today
a
bit
faster.
C
So
so
yeah
with
all
that
in
mind,
I
just
want
to
say
that,
in
terms
of
overcoming
those
obstacles,
it's
really
from
within,
as
well
like
sure
definitely
external,
wise,
there's
a
lot
and
a
lot
to
improve
on.
But
you
can
start
within
yourself.
If
it's
hard
to
change
the
environment,
then
you
yourself
have
to
change,
and
so
that's
kind
of
how
I
did
even
like,
with
my
parents
not
really
supporting
in
terms
of
my
programming,
because
they
don't
think
girls
should
code
I
still
just
I
still
just
do
it
so
I
yeah.
D
Like
almost
saving
fresh
covers
every
point
so
make
from
my
personal
experience.
I
would
say.
Self-Confidence
is
very
important
because,
like
I
I
lack
of
it
like
initial,
like
I,
remember,
I
used
to
lack
of
the
self-confidence
even
still
I,
like
at
some
point
and
I,
just
feel
very
less
confident
enough
to
put
up
my
my
points
and
say
out
loud
things,
even
though
I
know,
I
am
right
and
I
can
make
it
better,
but
still
I,
just
lack
of
it.
Because
of
that,
because
I
don't
have
that
confidence.
D
No
matter
we
bring
up
a
new
address
of
policies
and
run
programs
provide
mentorship,
but
the
only
thing
is
that
we
we
all
have
to
promote
like
if
some,
if,
if
there
is
a
lady
or
there
is
a
woman
who
who
is
doing
so
well,
so
that
particular
ladies,
she
has
to
becomes
in
like
role
model
for
other
ones
and
promote
other
women's
so
that
they
all
can
just
come
out
from
their
shelter
and
just
do
whatever
they
want
to
do
without
any
fear
in
their
mind
of
being
judged
or
anything.
D
It
just
comes
up
and
put
up
their
thoughts
in
opinion
and
just
say
whatever
they
feel
so
like,
along
with
ourselves.
We
we
have
to
hold
the
back
of
other
ladies
and
cheer
them
and
just
like,
promote
like
help
them
to
achieve
their
goals
as
well.
They,
then
only
maybe
we
can
just
over
just
fill
up
the
those
gaps
that
we
are
facing
right
now,
then
only
it
would
be
easier
for
everybody
to
come
out.
D
A
True,
that's
true,
I
totally
agree
as
well.
So
now,
let's
talk
about
strategies
because,
like
you
said
actually
it's
quite
common,
that
we
come
here
every
eighth
of
March,
whatever
yeah
we
talk
about
these
challenges,
we
talk
about
the
current
stage.
Then
tomorrow
is
over.
Then
we
have
to
wait
again
next
year
and
we'll
start
again
the
same
Trend
every
day
every
year.
So
now
I
know
there
are
so
many
people
out
there
who
are
willing,
like
okay,
we
would
like
to
support
more
women
in
Tech
right.
A
A
Maybe
if
you
can
share
some
examples
that
have
worked
for
you
that
people
can
adopt
in
different
communities
in
order
to
support
this
initiative
and
in
order,
maybe
we
can
start
like
it
all
begins
by
starting
right
so
that
next
year,
when
we
come
back
again
and
say
hey
this
work,
this
doesn't
work.
Let's
improve
on
this,
then
for
us
to
come
here
and
sit
and
start
talking
about
challenges,
obstacles,
but
actually
we
start
talking
about
okay,
this
strategies
work.
A
We
have,
we
have
improved.
We
have
reached
out
to
these.
Ladies.
We
have
recruited
a
certain
percentage
of
the
ladies
in
our
communities
so
like.
Let's
talk
about
strategies,
something
work
for
you,
you
can
share
with
communities.
Are
they
and
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
are
willing
like
to
Mentor
women,
but
they
don't
know
how
to
go
about
it.
So
if
you
like
to
share
Shruti.
G
Yeah,
if
we
talk
about
strategies
actually
I,
don't
know
that
there
are
in
some
companies.
They
even
have
a
hiring
policy
where
they
are
like.
We
want
a
certain
percentage
of
women,
representation
like
in
every
team
or
every
department
or
something
so
when
they
even
like
start
hiring,
look
or
look
out
for
people.
G
They
actively
look
out
for
women,
which
is
a
very
welcoming
change,
and
this
would
open
up
a
lot
of
opportunities
for
all
the
women
out
there,
where
you
don't
have
to
compete
with
other
men,
but
probably
other
women,
but
it
once
we
all
become
competent.
Then
surely
we
are
all
going
to
you
know
land
up
in
very
good
jobs,
and
that
would
naturally
increase
the
number
of
the
percentage
of
women
representation
in
the
workforce.
G
So
that
is
one
strategy
which
I'm
seeing
many
companies
are
adopting,
and
another
thing
like
this
is
again
like
very
internal
thing
that
a
few
others
spoke
about
like
we
have
to
Advocate
our
value.
G
To
you
know
our
manager
or
whoever
is
in
our
team,
and
that's
when
you
know
they
would
start
giving
more
importance
to
what
we
say
and
what
is
the
value
we
provide
to
them
and
naturally
that
would
you
know,
push
us
further
up
the
technical
ladder
because
otherwise,
we'll
always
end
up
being
the
underdog.
G
So
we
should
be
more
vocal
and
I
do
see
that
you
know
like
we
usually
have
a
tendency
to
hold
back
anything
that
we
might
want
to
say
in
a
meeting,
but
we
are
not
sure
of
the
what
it
is,
but
you
know
I
would
say
like
just
just
let
yourself
free
you,
you
might
probably
say
the
wrong
thing,
but
you
know
you,
you
have
the
confidence
to
say
it
and
then,
if
someone
pointed
out
to
you
that
it's
wrong,
then
you
learn
it
from
there.
G
Instead
of
you
look
like
fool
for
one
second,
but
you
have
learned
learned
a
lot
from
that
and
you
will
not
make
that
mistake
once
again
and
when
you
talk
to
your
manager
or
in
the
meetings
you
put
forth
your
points
without
feeling
that
you
know
you
don't
want
to
take
up
too
much
of
their
time
or
space
or
something
like,
even
if
you
feel
like
you're
dominating
the
meeting.
G
Just
do
it,
because,
ultimately,
if
they
feel
that
one
day,
if
they
feel
that
oh
this
person
is
able
to
hold
the
meeting
very
well,
is
able
to
manage
stuff,
then
definitely
they're
going
to
promote
you
into
you
know
the
next
level,
so
the
strategies
would
be.
One
of
them
is
from
the
HR
side,
where
they
are
increasing,
actively
hiring
more
women,
and
another
is
from
our
side
where
we
try
to
take
up
more
space
in
our.
G
F
I,
like
I
I,
am
now
into
there's
a
program
called
women
techmakers,
it's
a
platform
where
different
types
of
limit,
either
the
movies
who
are
still
studying
to
the
program
of
technology
or
someone
who
are
already
advanced
or
people
who
host
programs
like
this
one
or
host
events
like
the
one
that
we
are
here
so
I,
still
believe.
The
ladies
can
join
such
Societies
or
women
who
code
or
in
their
society.
They
can
start
a
small
programs
if
they
are
already
know
they
take
they're
in
part
of
tech.
F
They
can
have
programs
where
they
can
just
start
to
have
fun
with
other
young,
ladies,
where
they
can
motivate
other
other.
Ladies
and
the
other
strategies
that
wait
for
me,
I
wasn't
afraid
of
hayla
I
thought
failure
is
part
of
a
life
where
I
learn
a
lot
and
where
I
I
got
to
see
things
that
do
not
work
and
things
that
do
work
like
I
said
in
the
country
we
do
not
have.
F
We
do
not
have
such
a
programs
where
we
have
where
we
can
have
women
who
we
can
talk
or
talk
your
crisis
to
the
way
that
I
had
at
the
University,
but
I
started
such
programs,
and
now
we
do
have
more
programs
and
even
a
mentor
for
seven
countries
after
starting
such
programs
in
the
country.
So
I
still
believe
it's
us
as
women
to
start.
If
you
can
just
start
with
what
do
you
have?
F
That
is
all
because
I
started
with
my
computer,
one
computer,
but
now
I
got
support
from
big
companies
and
after
seeing
what
I've
already
started
so
I'm
saying,
women
should
start,
even
if
in
the
in
working
environment
where
they
are
working,
they
should
show
an
effort
that
they
do
know,
because
we
still
need
to
work
two
times
than
me
because
most
of
us
we
do
not
appreciate
technology,
so
just
work
hard,
so
that
other,
ladies
can
just
see
and
be
and
mentored
or
appreciate
you
as
an
employee,
so
that
they
want
to
be.
F
C
Okay,
yes,
I
was
gonna,
raise
my
hand
because
I
really
want
to
speak
after
my
nails.
That
was
really
inspiring.
That
sounded
like
a
presidential
speech.
So
basically.
C
So
confidently
and
like
so
inspiringly
yeah,
so
basically
following
what
Manuel
said
about
like
we
need
to
work
harder,
we
need
to
be
more
visible,
I
think
not
only
that
we
need
to
also
show
that
we
are
here
for
them.
We
are
here
for
the
women
who
are
needing
that
like
who
wants
that
support
system
who
wants
to
feel
like
empowered
and
feel
like
they're,
not
alone
in
this
journey.
So
I
remember
when
I
first
started
blogging
at
the
time
I
made
a
lot
of
new
friends.
C
I
joined
Twitter,
Tech,
Twitter
communities,
but
I
noticed
this
I
didn't
notice
it
before,
because
I
don't
really
like
see
men
and
women
as
any
different,
but
I
do
notice.
After
joining
a
woman
who
code
that,
when
I'm
trying
to
invite
women
speak
years,
I
realized
that
oh
yeah
there's
not
a
lot
of
women
on
Twitter
like
it's
not
a
lot
as
I,
like
as
my
friend,
because
I
I
speak
to
all
my
friends
daily,
who
are
men
in
Tech
and
they're,
really
great
men
as
well.
C
But
when
I
was
thinking
of
like
oh
a
list
like
women
speakers
to
invite
I'm
like
oh
there's,
not
as
much
so
that's
when
I
realized
that
we
as
when
we
just
need
to
be
more
visible
out
there.
So
start
a
blog
start.
C
Twitter
like
just
just
show
that
you
exist
so
that
you
can
be
role
models
for
those
other
women,
yeah
I,
think
that's
a
good
place
to
start
and
I'm
actually
really
proud
that
I
can
somehow
represent
a
little
bit
because
I'm
like
as
a
blogger,
I'm,
like
quite
at
least
in
my
community,
like
I,
know
that
I'm
one
of
the
only
female
bloggers
that
are
active
right
now
so
I
know
that
at
least
that
part
of
the
space
I'm
like
representing
for
Tech
blogging,
so
I'm
sure
there's
a
lot
of
you
guys
are
all
just
amazing
women
who
can
represent
in
all
your
expertise
and
different
places.
C
I
think
it
will
be
great
if
we
could
show
that
and
we
could
show
that
everyone-
hey,
there's
this
expert
of
women
for
this
area
for
this
area.
So,
oh
someone
put
my
LinkedIn
onto
the
car.
No
need
to
stop
me
on
LinkedIn,
but
yeah,
basically
I'm
just
saying
that
we
need
more
Role
Models
so
that
we
can
see
that
oh
there's
a
leader
here
and
there's
a
leader
in
the
space.
So
then
we
can
kind
of
like
follow
their
footsteps
or
at
least
be
inspired
from
there,
so
yeah.
C
A
D
So
like
in
my
company,
we
have
a
program
called
wapsi,
so
basically,
under
this
program,
what
we
do
like,
if,
like
the
women
who
somehow
they
lost,
they
just
lost
their
jobs
and
they
have
to
drop
from
their
jobs
due
to
some
reasons
and
they
want
to
join
back
and
they
join
back
to
their
career
in
the
tech
even
after
five
year,
eight
years
also,
then
we
ran
that
program
and
under
this
program
we
rehire
them
based
upon
the
boot
camps,
and
so
this
program,
really
it's
a
very
helpful.
D
So
maybe
we
can
bring
up
these
kind
of
programs,
these
sort
of
more
programs
in
the
different
different
companies
and
the
different
screens,
so
that
more
women
comes
out
and
they
join
back
even
if,
after
they're
like
they
have
just,
they
have
to
drop
because
of
some
reasons.
So
this
could
be
the
one
initiative,
apart
from
this,
like
yeah,
like
blogging
like
blogging
on
the
writing,
their
personal
Journey
experience
sharing
their
experiences
like
maybe
on
the
like.
D
We
can
start
a
stream
channels,
this
YouTube
streams
where
they
can
just
we
can
invite
these
speakers.
We
can
just
like
invite
them
on
the
YouTube
and
ask
them
to
share
their
like
experiences
and
maybe
a
little
podcast
on
those
things.
So
these
are
the
little.
These
might
be
little
initiatives,
but
if
we
look
at
them
at
from
the
broader
perspective,
so
it
would
comes
up
with
a
lot
of
lot
of
like
Improvement
in
this
particular
field.
D
E
I,
if
we
had
to
contact
for
president,
it
means
like
pretty
much
everybody,
because
you
guys
are
amazing,
but
anyway,
I
think
that
part
of
the
strategies
we
can
do
like
that
has
already
been
previously
mentioned.
E
We
could
help
out
with
like
mentorship
and
I
I
like
talking
about
Community
Lots,
because
sometimes
like
your
support
systems,
almost
everything
you
have
like
for
the
most
part.
Okay.
So
if
you
are
especially
if
you're
still
growing
and
you
are
investing
if
it's
of
issues,
it's
always
easier
to
be
able
to
ask
somebody
that
is
around
you-
hey
I
need
help
with
this,
and
that's
a
question
and
like
Korea,
said,
visibility
and
I.
Think
another
thing
is
aside
from
and
pushing
yourself
out
there.
E
It
also
means
like
we
should
learn
how
to
consciously
think
about
this
thing.
So
maybe
we
create
some
like
a
speaker
event,
there's
no
movement
there,
because
I
always
say
who
are
the
organizers
of
this
event?
Sometimes
it
may
be
unconsciously,
maybe
because
of
how
it
is,
but
we
should
always
try
to
mention
and
like
point
out
where
there
are
biases
or
where
they
are
like.
We
don't
see.
Equity,
so
more
and
more
like
people
will
be
conscious
of
it.
E
So
if
there
is
a
speaker
event-
and
there
are
no
like
enough-
it
doesn't
look
diverse
enough
or
there
isn't
enough
representation.
Attention
should
be
called
to
to
who
you
can
see
and
like
support
for
different
people
at
different
stages
of
their
career
and
like
money,
you
said,
maybe
come
in
sorry.
What
are
they
called?
E
Oh
my
God
institutions
or
like
the
kind
of
programs
that
she
runs
to
help
beginners
that
are
coming
up
in
their
career,
so
it
could
be
different
ways.
It
could
also
be
you
trying
to
take
personal
mentors
and
personal
mentees
and
helping
people
out
in
their
Journey
personally.
For
me,
I
think
my
own
strategy
is
usually
asking
people
that
are
higher
than
me
for
guidance
or
a
community
and
people
helping
me
out
and
basically
learning
from
people
that
are
around
me.
A
All
right,
okay
for
me,
I'm
the
last
one,
so
the
strategies
that
I
believe
that
work
so
I
will
talk
from
a
personal
point
of
view
is
that
you
need
to
put
yourself
out
there.
Public
learning
is
very
important
when
opportunities
come
be
ready
to
take.
Take
them
doesn't
matter
whether
you're,
qualified
or
you're
not
qualified.
As
long
as
you
have
a
40
percent
chance
that
you
may
meet
the
requirements
apply
for
their
job,
apply
for
the
opportunity
be
there
to
Market
yourself
and
trust
me.
A
A
Maybe
I'm
not
sure
how
to
put
it.
The
required
requirements,
maybe
but
I'm
willing
to
learn
I'm
willing
to
grow
I'm
willing
to
explore,
and
definitely,
if
you're,
ready
to
put
in
the
work,
a
lot
of
things
will
come
easier,
especially
if
you're
willing,
so
definitely
public
learning
is
important.
Blogging
about
your
experiences
is
important.
A
Like
most
of
you,
I
might
have
made
you
through
technical
writing
like
Victoria
I
made
it
through
technical
writing,
speak
up
when
there's
a
room
full
of
names,
pick
up
your
ideas
be
ready
to,
even
though
it's
name,
you
might
think
it's
nonsense,
but
I
mean
one
or
two
points
that
you
may
say
out.
There
are
actually
valid,
so
it
doesn't
matter
whether
you
feel
you
mustn't
like
keep
yourself,
but
actually
be
there,
make
mistakes
in
public
learn
in
public.
Then
you
that's,
how
you
build
experiences.
A
So
I
do
believe,
like
these
are
some
of
the
strategies
we
can
Implement
for
ourselves
and
also
to
teach
the
women
out
there
that
it
doesn't
matter
if
you're
suffering
from
self-confidence
just
turn
on
your
zoom
camera
on
your
own,
on
your
laptop
and
speak
on
your
own,
you
know,
or
on
your
mirror,
I
started
like
before
I
started.
Speaking
like
this
I
used
to
look
at
my
mirror
and
pretend
like
my
mirror,
is
the
audience.
But
reflection
is
the
audience.
A
That's
how
you
build
confidence
at
the
end
of
the
day
so
like
if
an
opportunity
comes
and
say,
or
maybe
Victoria
decides,
hey
I
want
to
host
you,
you
don't
need
to
be
an
expert
or
you
have
a
number
of
years
of
experience,
speaking
public
speaking,
but
just
be
the
the
value.
Comes
there,
the
experience,
the
exposure
and
more
opportunities
will
come
from
there
and
from
that
I
think
that'll,
be
it
from
me.
A
Do
we
have
any
questions.
Is
question
time?
A
Okay,
let
me
look
through
the
chat.
If
you
have
any
questions,
please
send
them
through
the
chat.
Okay,
I
think
we
have
our
first
question
from
Ace,
so
he
goes
thinking
about
your
career.
So
far,
what
would
you
change
to
improve
equity
for
women
in
our
sector?
Our
president,
Manuel
I,
think
you
can
go
first.
F
Okay,
like
I
wake
I,
have
a
contract
with
a
Revenue
Services
philosophy
in
the
country.
So
I
was
one.
I
was
the
only
developer
when
women
developer
so
thinking
I
have
a
business
I'm
a
mentor
to
different
countries.
I
have
a
family
that
I
have
to
look
after.
So
what
I
saw
that
the
guys
that
I
was
working
with
they
can
work
even
at
12
or
1am?
F
They
can
work,
so
you
have
to
cater
for
your
family
when
you
arrive
at
home.
So
what
I've
seen
is
that
you
have
to
have
I
have
to
have
a
strategy
on
how
to
manage
my
time.
My
resources,
everything
so
that
I
can
be
competitive
around
the
environment
that
I'm
working
in
at
around
now.
So
I
can't
change
my
career
now,
because
already
it's
I
think
it's
there's
exposure
and
job
opportunities
and
so
many
opportunities
that
I
can
have
now,
because
now
they
they
take,
the
economy
is
Shifting
to
technology.
F
C
Yeah,
so
thinking
about
what
we
could
do
to
improve
the
equity
I
think
we
did
talk
about
this
a
little
bit
from
the
question
so
far,
but
yes,
Shruti
mentioned
about
like
we
have
to
change
mindsets.
I
think
that's
also
a
very
good
point,
because
changing
the
underlying
mindset
is
something
that
we
need
to
kind
of
like
spread
that
so
that
people
can
understand
like
what
is
like
embracing
Equity,
not
just
for
the
sake
of
like
you
know,
meeting
HR
policies
or
anything
like
that.
C
But
really
it's
because
you
want
to
it's
because
from
the
heart
I
have
a
friend
who's
like
he
said,
like
one
of
his
sister
didn't
make
it
to
the
interview.
I
mean
didn't
pass
the
interview
just
because
they
think
oh,
the
quota
for
woman
is
already
filled.
So
then
they
thought.
Oh
okay,
since
you
know
the
policy
there,
you
go
right
so
now
we
don't
have
to
hire
any
more
women.
C
So
that's
that's,
actually
not
a
very
good
thing,
so
even
policies
sure
they're
there,
but
they
can
sometimes
be
black
and
white,
and
if
people
follow
them
just
for
the
sake
of
following
them,
then
that's
not
really
solving
the
underlying
issue,
so
I
think
just
to
improve
Equity.
We
should
also
focus
on
changing
the
mindset
either
by
doing
events
like
this.
C
Thank
you
to
Lee
or
just
promoting
women
more
in
Tech,
and
also
like
elevating
those
communities
like
women
in
code
girl
in
Tech,
like
just
all
those
communities
like
we
can
level
them
up.
We
can
Elevate
them
to
gain
more
visibility
through
these
type
of
events
and
just
spreading
that
awareness
that
cause
and
finding
like-minded
people
who
are
going
to
ride
with
us
for
the
journey
for
the
cause.
So
yeah,
that's
one
thing:
I
can
think
of.
D
Sam
so
like
I
would
say
a
good
and
a
proper
mentorship
like
providing
a
mentorship
from
the
seniors
and
like
from
the
experienced
person,
because
with
the
experience
like,
if
a
person
has
an
experience
so
from
their
experience,
they
can
teach
like
other
people
what
to
do
and
what
to
not.
D
What
do
what
to
not
do
so
like
a
good
mentorship
is
very
important,
and,
apart
from
this,
like
I,
would
say,
like
encouragement
like
encouraging
us,
like
encouraging
women
surrounding
ourselves,
like
friends
from
Family
from
colleague,
everybody
to
come
up
and
share
your
thought
and
feel
free
to
like
if
you
have
anything
to
to
share
it
on.
Maybe
there
are
a
lot
of
platforms
like
Twitter
LinkedIn
share
your
thoughts,
articles
blogs,
so
their
various
platforms
share
it
on
those
platforms.
D
So
when
you
share
it
on
those
things
or
ideas,
maybe
there
there
are
a
lot
of
people
and
the
thing
a
lot
of
people
who
are
looking
for
their
talented
peoples.
But,
like
we
don't
know
our
talent
at
many
point
of
time,
but
like
if,
let's
say
I'm
good
at
technical
writing,
but
I,
don't
know
when
I
start
writing.
If
other
people
read
it,
then
only
they
that's
that's.
We
call
basically
a
black
spot
that
we
don't
know
blind
spot.
D
So
we
should,
we
don't
know
our
blind
spot,
but
other
people
who
just
see
it
they
don't
know.
So
maybe
we
should
start
doing
things
and
also
encouraging
everybody
to
do
it
so
that
and
we
provide
a
constructive
feedback
which
is
very
important
to
grow.
Just
don't
push
ourselves
to
grow
but
push
everybody
in
our
surrounding
in
the
community
to
grow
together.
Then
only
we
can
bring
up
a
healthy
community
and
a
healthy
environment.
E
So
I
think
something
when
we
would
be
letting
people
know
that
these
things
are
possible
and,
like
we've
said
previously,
invisibility
visibility
for
them
because
for
people
who
are
already
in
the
system
and
it's
help-
you
grow
your
career
and
like
increase
your
network
and
stuff,
but
more
for
you,
people
that
are
still
going
to
come
up
because
you
only
know
something
is
possible
because
you've
seen
somebody
to
do
it
before
right.
E
So
if
you
meet,
if
you
end
up
seeing
senior
people
and
like
if
you
keep
on
like
helping
out
with
visibility
and
stuff,
then
you
can
help
another
person
like
two
starting
out
in
their
careers
to
you
so
yeah,
okay,
wait!
This
is
possible
and
I
can
try
it
out
and
then
I
can't
do
it
right.
So
part
of
the
way
is
that
we
can
help
our
Equity
is
putting
ourselves
out
there.
E
So
people
are
still
coming
up,
can't
figure
out
what
to
do
and
also
letting
people
know
that
Tech
is
not
just
code
right
that
there
is
like
a
lot
of
career
paths.
You
can
figure
out
in
there.
So,
even
if
you
maybe
you
want
to
get
into
Tech,
but
you
find
out
I,
don't
like
code,
there's
I
think
people
should
be
able
to
people
should
know
that
there
is
a
whole
like
day,
lots
right.
There's
technical
writing!
There's
design!
There
is
sorry
they.
G
Yeah
I
mean
personally
the
steps
that
I
take,
or
some
of
them
are
like.
I
I
have
created
a
internal
group
of
women
in
my
office
and
there
we
we
are
open
to
ask
any
kind
of
doubt
many
times.
We
feel
too
shy
to
ask
those
doubts
to
our
you
know
male
counterparts,
because
we
don't
want
to
sound
like
we
don't
know
it
or
we're
not
sure.
G
But
you
know
we
create
a
safe
space
for
a
women
to
like
share
what
they
know
and
share
what
they
don't
know
and
learn
from
others
freely
without
feeling,
like
you
know,
underconfident
or
not
too
sure
of
things.
So
that
is
something
that
would
definitely
Empower
them
and
then
give
them
that
freedom
to
you
know
ask
questions
and
learn
from
each
other,
so
we
support
each
other
to
expand
our
knowledge
and
grow
together
in
the
company.
G
That's
one
nice
way
that
I
can
that
we
are
currently
doing
internally
in
in
my
office
and
I
just
thought
of
another
point
and
I
just
it
slipped
out
of
my
mind
right
now,
one
was
like
creating
such
groups
and
sharing
knowledge
and
really
can't
remember
the
other
point
right
now:
I'll
I'll
just
raise
my
hand
when,
once
it
hits
me
again,
yeah
no.
A
D
So
Nick
I,
like
I'm,
just
a
kind
of
so
much
into
open
source
I
started
my
computer
science
Journey
with
the
open
source
I
would
say,
like
so
I'm
very
much
like
it's,
it's
sort
of
like
a
love
for
me,
open
source
so
like
there
are
a
lot
of
ways
like
we
can
promote
like
when
I
I
started
open
source.
D
So
I
am
the
only
female
from
my
classroom
who
is
doing
the
open
source
so,
and
it's
like
around
two
years
back
only
so
when
I
started
I
just
juggle
with
the
things
and
learning
the
new
things
like
how
to
do.
D
So
by
that
time,
I
just
I
just
talked
to
my
other
friends.
My
female
friends
I
encourage
them.
You
people,
like
you,
people
also
comes,
and
let's
do
the
Charming
and
we
should
start
like
I'll
help.
You
just
said
with
the
setup
thing,
and
maybe
you
can
do
so.
This
is
the
first
very
first
initiative
I
took
in
the
open
source
and
then
I
thought
of
this
thing.
Like
then,
I
realized
that
in
my
college,
like
most
around
90
percent
of
the
people,
don't
know
about
the
open
source.
D
They
don't
know
about
the
GitHub
thing
so
I
thought
of
like
maybe
like
in
the
colleges
and
the
schools.
Maybe
we
can
like
a
proper,
maybe
a
workshop
or
a
session
to
the
students
so
that
they
get
to
know
about
this
thing
and
they
can
understand
the
importance
of
it
is
because
once
they
understand
the
importance
of
the
GitHub
and
the
Version
Control,
maybe
they
can.
It
will
Fascinate
them
when
they
start
working
on
it.
It
will
definitely
Fascinate
them.
D
So
let
take
understanding
like
but
yeah
it's
over
like
so
it
will
like
they
will
come
in
and
join
so
I
thought
this
could
be
the
initiative
taken
by
the
college
like
if
any,
if
I'm,
a
college
student
and
like
I
work
on
the
open
source
project,
I
would
say:
I'll
talk
to
my
teachers
and
professors,
so
they
can
also
brings
up
the
program
and
since
I
have
contributed
to
I,
would
love
to
like
just
Mentor
that
workshop
and
help
the
other
folks
to
other
students
to
work
on
the
project
and
help
them,
and
in
my
company
we
had
this
workshop
on
the
open
source.
D
Where,
like
we
shared
our
experience
of
the
Oktoberfest
in
different
open
source
program,
there
are
lot
of
Open
Source
programs,
but
yeah
in
those
programs.
We
don't.
There
is
no
particular
thing
about
the
women's
intake
thing,
but
yeah
we
can
do
like
when
this
programs.
During
this
program
session,
we
can
sister
hold
a
little
session
on
these
things
we
can
just
address.
D
We
can
bring
up
all
those
women's
who
are
in
the
tech
and
we
can
maybe
call
out
their
names
and
we
can
ask
them
to
share
their
open
source
journey
and
experience
that
we
did
actually
in
the
async
API.
We
had
a
session
like
I
did
with
the
ace.
So
this
is
how
like
maybe
we
can
encourage
women's
and
everybody
to
contribute
in
the
open
source.
A
Okay,
that's
awesome
because
of
time
I
think
I
will
also
just
put
my
two
cents
and
move
on
to
the
last
question.
I
think
some
of
the
biggest
opportunities
to
improve
open
source
diabetes
diversity
is
to
also
let
people
know
that
you
don't
need
to
only
contribute
to
open
source
only
by
code,
but
there's
also
technical
writing.
There's
project
management.
There
is
design,
they
are
different,
divers
pads
of
Open
Source
that
you
can
contribute
to.
A
You
can
go
into
open
source
and
prior
coordinator
coordinate,
live
streams
like
this
ones
as
well
like
for
us
at
icing
API.
We
have
a
I
think
API
on
top
conference.
We
need
a
coordinators
from
different
locations
to
organize
a
conference,
so
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
we
can
improve
diversity
and
bring
more
people
into
open
source
projects.
A
B
F
Okay,
I
think
the
changes
I
I
think
it's
US
is
an
individual
individual,
where
you
introspect
yourself
as
an
individual
and
see
that
indeed
you
need
help,
or
indeed
you
didn't
know
that
this
certain
thing
doesn't
exist
like
right
now.
The
audience
now
do
know
that
opportunities
like
women
who
talk
women,
take
makeup
and
think
it's
a
a
sink
is
here:
API
is
here
as
well,
and
we
do
have
programs
into
let's
say
in
Google
programs,
and
we
have
women.
F
Take
makers
as
well,
so
I
believe
the
society
has
to
them
introspect
themselves
and
admit
when
they
are
wrong
and
admit
that
they
do
not
know
so
that
they
can
get
help.
But
as
for
those
who
do
not
know
that
they
don't
know,
we
are
still
here
to
help
and
Mentor
such
societies
and
we
believe
even
the
other
Society,
the
other
Tech
members
can
do
that
too
as
well.
Thank
you.
A
All
right
does
anyone
else
want
to
add.
Maybe
shorty
our
vice
president
Victoria
anyways.
G
Yeah,
like
as
I
mentioned,
institutional
advice,
so
the
institution
has
to
be
cognizant
of
the
fact
that
they
want
to
provide
more
opportunities
for
women.
So
then
they
actively
seek
out
to
provide
more
opportunities
for
women,
and
women
also
have
to
be
actually
actively
looking
out
and
you're
trying
to
grab
every
opportunity,
like
you
said
so,
for
societal
changes,
it's
a
mindset,
change
and
for
institutional
changes.
It's
you
know,
policies,
change
in
companies
or
everywhere
else
and
yeah
I.
G
Remember
the
point
now
that
I
forgot
that
time,
it's
very
important
to
maintain
a
very
good
network:
I,
don't
I'm,
not
sure
if
we
spoke
about
it
right
now,
but
you
know
where
we
keep
meeting
people
as
we,
you
know,
join
many
such
women-centric
groups
and
we
come
across
people
from
various
backgrounds.
G
Having
you
know,
there
are
many
different
skills,
but
you
know
it's
very
important
to
keep
in
touch
with
them
later
and
then
find
out
what
they
are
up
to
just
you
know
just
for
a
sake
of
Goodwill,
so
that
when
some
some
other
women
comes
along
someday
and
then
you
know
they
have
certain
set
of
skills.
We
know
whom
to
you
know,
attach
them
to
like
as
a
someone
who
who
can
help
them
out
or
something.
G
So
it's
really
important
to
maintain
a
good
network
of
you
know,
people
with
various
skills
so
that
whenever
we
have
any
of
our
fellow
women
coming
and
then
you
know
asking
do
you
have
any
such
rules
with
you
know,
I
have
such
skills
and
then
we
are
immediately
able
to
either
help
them
directly
or
you
know,
connect
them
with
someone
that
we
know
so
then
that
you
know
through
through
referral,
then
it's
at
least
easier
to
you
know
land
an
interview,
if
not
the
job.
A
Thank
you
so
much
I
am
so
excited.
I've
learned
so
much
from
you,
ladies
I,
can
wear
alone,
cannot
express
my
gratitude
for
you
guys
coming
here.
Sharing
your
knowledge,
I
mean
we
even
now
have
our
very
own
president,
our
vice
president,
but
anyway.
Thank
you
so
much.
Ladies,
do
you
have
any
closing
remarks
before.
C
Can
I
say
something
real,
quick,
I
know
truly
you're
like
busy
Thanking
us,
but
I
just
want
to.
Thank
you
as
well
for
like
initiating
this
event
and
like
really
just
I've
seen
you
grow
these
past
two
years
like
for
those
who
don't
know
Tooley
she's,
really
an
amazing
person
like
when
I
met
her
two
years
ago.
She
was
so
unsure
of
herself.
She
doesn't
know,
what's
an
API,
she
doesn't
know
every
want
to
assure
her
like
she
has
skills
too.
C
She
still
knows,
like
I,
just
know
that
she
can
go
far
like
she
knows,
and
and
that's
why
I'm
really
proud
to
see
that
you
are
right
now
here
and
like
being
able
to
talk
to
us
and
you're
such
a
great
host.
You
have
such
a
great
personality,
so
just
want
a
big
round
of
applause
for
Julie
as
well
or
just
this
so
yay.
B
C
My
closing
remark,
and
just
want
to
thank
all
you,
ladies
as
well.
It's
such
a
pleasure
to
meet
everyone
I
think
each
and
one
of
you
are
really
special
and
really
amazing
speaker.
So
definitely
I
will
link
up
with
all
of
you
like
watch,
Rudy,
Mansion,
networking
very,
very
important,
so
yeah
I
hope
to
keep
in
touch
with
all
of
you
and
really
thanks
for
also
everyone
who
joined
the
talk.
I
think
it
was
a
very
insightful
session.
C
F
So
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
and
thank
you,
ladies
I
think
I
actually
have
learned
a
lot,
because
I
got
to
learn
from
shiriti
that
she
created
that
group
where
they
can
talk
as
ladies
into
their
work.
So
I
do
not
have
that
group.
So
I'll
try
to
have
such
a
group
where
we
can
have
only
days
where
we
can
talk
without
fear
of
me
and
also
I've
learned
a
lot
from
Victoria
and
summed
everyone
here.
I've
learned
a
lot
and
thank
you
because
it
was
only
because
of
utilities.
So
thank
you.
Julie.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
honoring
anyone
else
closing
remarks.
The
flow
is
open.
B
A
Anyway,
you
can
follow
everybody
here:
I
linked
their
socials
I.
Think
everybody
is
on
LinkedIn,
so
you
can
follow
everyone
on
LinkedIn
see
their
work,
follow
Victoria,
she's,
a
consistent
technical
writer
every
week,
she's
publishing
a
Blog,
so
you
can
learn
a
few
tips
and
tricks
from
Victoria.
If
you
want
to
talk
about
open
source,
precious
Sam
is
here.
If
you
want
to
talk
about
women,
leadership,
sriti
and
Manila
are
here,
I.
Think
as
everybody
can
agree.
These,
ladies,
are
the
best
and
without
further
Ado
I
will
move
everyone
to
the
backstage.
A
Thank
you
so
much.
Everyone.
A
All
right,
thank
you
for
everyone
who
has
joined
us
and
if
you
want
to
follow
us,
we
are
available
async
API.
You
can
join
us
on
our
slack
Channel
and
if
you
want
to
contribute
to
open
source
projects,
we
have
a
g-soc.
We
are
participating
in
gsoc
under
Postman
and
hopefully
by
the
end
of
this
March,
we'll
have
the
results
for
Google
citizens
of
dogs.
For
those
who
like
to
contribute
as
technical
writers,
we
also
have
a
mentoring
program
for
people
who,
like
to
Mentor
under
Court.
A
Details
will
be
available
soon.
So,
if
you
would
like
to
inquire
more,
you
can
send
me
a
DM
on
Twitter
on
LinkedIn
or
you
can
join,
select.
Async
apis
like
and
I
will
give
you
more
information
and
if
you
are
looking
to
participate
in
one
of
our
conferences
this
year
with
async
API
on
tour,
a
set
of
micro
conferences
online
around
the
world,
so
I
hope
I
will
try
as
much
as
possible
to
persuade
these.
Ladies
to
the
day
in
person
in
one
of
our
locations,
I'm
sure
there's
a
lot.
A
They
can
share
there's
a
lot.
They
will
like
to
talk
about
and
I'm
sure
everybody
will
be
willing
to
listen,
so
I
hope
they
will
accept.
They
will
send
me
their
cpfs
in
one
of
our
locations,
so
I
will
do
some
marketing
and
promotions
from
our
site,
but
with
that
in
mind,
I
think
everybody
enjoyed
the
live
stream.
Thank
you
so
much
to
the
community
for
coming
through
and
for
supporting,
and
for
the
ladies
as
well
for
accepting
my
invitation
with
that.
I
will
see
you
later
bye.