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Description
We talk about contributing to open source as a product designer. We cover changes in AsyncAPI brand and how you can contribute there, but not only.
4:36 is when main part starts
A
Hello
folks
welcome
in
2022
the
first
edition
this
year
of
a
contributor
first
meeting,
which
actually
changed
the
name
basing
on
your
feedback.
The
live
stream
is
called
now.
Let's
talk
about
contributing,
I'm
mukash
kunicki
your
host
today
and
before
we
start
as
usual,
it
takes
time
for
people
to
join
the
live
stream.
A
It's
like
with
meetings,
it's
normal
that
you're
two
three
minutes.
Sometimes
five
minutes
late,
so
I'll
always
take
this
time
to
grab
the
links
to
the
live
stream
from
social
media
and
share
in
our
slack
so
yeah.
In
the
meantime,
when
you
join
please
write
comment
in
the
chat
indicate
that
you're
there
so
I'm
not
speaking
to
and
once
I
share
all
the
links
with
the
with
the
community
in
slack
I
will
introduce
our
special
guest
today,
but
yes,
so
far
so
good.
A
A
A
So
if
you're
interested
like,
if
it's
your
first
time,
seeing
the
like
this
community
and
you're
like
wondering
where
I
was
just
sharing
my
links
now
that
we
have
like
how
to
contribute
channel,
so
let
me
grab
a
link
and
I'm
going
to
share
it
with
you.
A
A
A
How
you
folks
can
contribute
in
this
area,
but
we
will
also,
I
bet
we
will
also
touch
a
topic
of
product
design
in
general
and
areas
where
we
could
use
some
help
and
basically
how
to
contact
us
to
to
start
contributing
so
yeah.
I
think
it's
better
to
listen
to
missy
than
me.
So
let
me
just
now
enable
her
view.
B
A
B
A
Meeting
this
year,
we're
kicking
off
big
time
before
we
start
specifics.
Do
you
want
to
say
something
like
whatever
did
you
prepare
some
speech
or
something.
B
Not
really,
but
I
guess
here
goes
nothing
so
I
actually
maybe
I'll
just
talk
about
like
how
I
came
into
this
role
in
the
first
place
so
that
you
know
people
aren't
like
who
the
heck
is
this
girl,
so
I
actually
went
to
school
for
graphic
design,
but
for
the
past
four
years
before
joining
async
api,
I
actually
was
a
front-end
web
developer.
B
So
that
kind
of
gave
me
like
a
look
into.
You
know
how
things
like
technically
work
and
not
just
visually
how
it
looks
so
I
have
some
experience
in
that
world
and
then
I
covered
product
design
or
ui
ux
design,
while
being
a
developer
and
kind
of
felt
like
I
wanted
to
marry
my
skills
in
between
the
two,
so
I
got
the
wonderful
opportunity
to
start
working
with
ac
async
api
and
it's
been
awesome
so
far.
So
thank
you.
A
Awesome,
I'm
super
happy
for
having
you
in
the
project.
We
were
really
missing.
Support
in
this
area.
A
B
A
Yeah
definitely
so
how
do
you
want
to
start
like?
Do
you
want
to
talk
about
the
brand
changes.
B
B
You
know
feedback
on
like
what
how
we
should
build
things
and
how
it
should
look,
and
maybe
that,
like
kind
of
lacks
structure
a
little
bit,
even
though
we
are
open
source
and
everybody
has
a
say
like,
I
think
it
would
be
great
to
have
some
sort
of
like
guidelines
to
that
just
kind
of
make
the
process
a
little
bit
easier.
I
know,
like
developers
are
usually
like,
let's
just
get
the
stuff
on
the
screen
and
like
figure
it
out
instead
of
like
you,
know,
worrying
about
all
the
visuals.
B
So
if
we
can
create
kind
of
a
guide
for
that,
I
know
we
have
like
a
design
system
in
the
works,
ui
kits
and
stuff
like
that,
that
I've
talked
with
fran
about
yeah,
so
we're
kind
of
just
looking
for
help
in
any
of
those
areas.
If
anybody
has
anything
to
offer
like,
we
always
will
welcome
any
kind
of
contribution
in
that
area,
so.
A
B
A
Awesome
like
do
we
want
to
jump
in
and
share
how
brand
is
changing.
A
A
A
B
Like
appeases,
my
you
know,
ocd
so.
A
B
Yes,
I
mean
this
is
kind
of
the
direction
we're
going
in
as
far
as
the
ac
kpi
logo.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
already
seen
the
recording
that
I
put
together.
It
was
kind
of
long
so
apologize
for
that,
but
I
was
really
passionate
about
all
of
this
so
yeah.
I
just
kind
of
felt
like
me
and
fran,
talked
about
it
too,
where
it
seemed
like
the
the
logo
itself.
B
The
mark
was
so
recognizable
that
we
didn't
want
to
mess
with
that
at
all
and
as
well
as
like
a
bunch
of
people
who
have
filled
out
the
the
design
or
the
brand
feedback
questionnaire
that
we
sent
like
a
couple
months
ago,
that
was
like
most
people
were
were
saying
the
same
thing
like.
Oh,
we
do
like
the
s.
Some
people
were
like.
B
Oh,
I
don't
really
understand
what
the
s
means,
but
it's
it
actually
comes
from
this
this
s
here
that
this
mark
used
to
be
in
this
place
here,
so
which
I
think
it
was
like
a
derivative
of
the
logo
in
the
past,
but
yeah.
So
we
didn't
mess
with
that
at
all.
We
just
kind
of
you
know,
updated
the
colors
a
little
bit.
B
I
thought
it
like
kind
of
making
it
more
of
like
an
app
looking
feel
might
better
like
define
who
we
are
and
using
like
a
little
bit
more
vibrant
colors,
which
you
know,
I've
broken
down
all
the
colors
here
and
their
meanings.
So
blue
is
like
a
trusting,
loyal,
reliable
sport
of
color
that
you
know
really
defines
who
we
are
as
a
community
and
purple
is
the
other
part
of
that,
which
is
imagination,
inspiration,
creativity
and
wisdom
and
pink,
which
is
actually
a
color
that
we
use
in
the
studio
right
now.
B
It's
you
know,
it
promotes
wonder
kindness,
femininity
and
excitement
which
femininity
is
cool
because
we
are,
you
know,
you
know,
software
in
general
is
starting
to
have
like
a
lot
of
females
so
yeah.
I
thought
that
was
like
a
cool
little
point
and
then
you
bring
all
of
them
together.
It's
like
diversity,
trustworthiness,
intelligence
and
growth,
so
that
is
just
the
meaning
behind.
B
You
know
the
direction
of
this
new
brand
and
I
guess
like
without
getting
like
too
much
into
it,
just
using
this
kind
of
as
a
platform
to
build
a
design
system
off
of-
and
you
know,
I
think,
like
a
design
system
would
be
there'd,
be
like
two
separate
design
systems,
one
for
marketing
and
one
for
tooling.
B
Those
are
like
our
two
sectors,
I
would
say,
and
that
is
gonna
like
change
over
time
drastically.
So
yeah
I
mean
I
don't
know
what
else
what
else
you're
looking
for
here,
but.
A
So
far,
how
was
it
with
the
with
the
feedback,
because
you
shared
it
before
christmas?
I
think
long
enough
for
people
to
also
have
a
look
before
christmas.
B
Yeah,
I
think
we
got
most
of
our
feedback
before
the
holidays,
and
most
people
seem
to
like
it
a
lot
and
think
that
it
was
a
good
direction
to
go
into.
So
I
guess
I
took
that
as
like.
Oh
okay,
let's
keep
going
so
I
mean
with
that.
Let
me
see
if
I
actually
have
a
pr
open
right
now,
where
I've
actually
started
to
implement
some
of
these
styles
and
the
new
logo
in
the
website.
B
So
this
is
kind
of
like
just
re-skinning
the
website
with
like
the
new
colors.
Basically,
so
that's
all.
A
Like
I
personally
love
the
colors,
so
for
me
the
old
colors,
they
were
always
looking
like
yeah.
Of
course,
I
didn't
prepare
the
english
words,
I'm
not
that
smart
to
remember
them,
but
they
were
like.
Let
me
describe
it
in
in
a
way
like
when
you,
when
you
have
a
a
shirt
and
you
wear
it
for
a
long
time
when
you're
outside
and
the
sun
is
very
strong,
then
the
the
colors
get.
A
B
Of
the
feedback
that
we
had
was
you
know,
the
colors
were
a
little
bit
too,
like
you
know,
maybe
soothing,
which
I
mean
not
that
our
community
isn't
soothing
and
feeling.
But
I
think
that,
as
like
a
you
know,
kind
of
technology
focused
initiative
like
we
should
be
a
little
bit
more,
like
vibrant,
with
our
color
choice.
So
yeah.
A
Can
you
because
some
folks
in
the
in
the
chat
they
they
mentioned,
that
it's
like
the
window
is
pretty
much
not
not
so
visible,
like
the
icons
are
small?
So
can
you
oh.
A
Yeah,
I
think
it's
I
mean
folks,
can
you
confirm
in
the
chat
if
it
like
works
better
now,
for
you.
B
Oh,
that
must
have
been
for
the
the
website.
A
Might
be
and
missy
we
just
need
to
remember.
I
forgot
to
tell
you
that,
like
we
have
a
few
seconds
delay
always
between
the
the
social
and
and
us.
So
that's
why
I'm
yeah,
but
we
have
confirmation
that
it.
It
looks
good
now.
B
Cool
all
right,
so
this
is
the
brand
repo,
so
just
like
your
average
repo
but
focus
on
the
brand-
and
I
have
this
readme
here,
which
kind
of
explains.
I
don't
know
why
my
mouse
is
doing
that
it
explains
kind
of
like
the
focus
of
this
repository
and
like
kind
of
what
we're
working
on
in
here
and
how
you
can
contribute.
B
So
I
mean,
if
there's
any
of
these
areas
that
you're
interested
in,
like
that's
all
stuff,
that
we
would
like
to
have
help
with
I'm
currently
the
only
like
person,
the
only
designer
working
on
this
full
time.
So
if,
if
anybody
can
offer
any
kind
of
skills
anywhere
possible,
I
think
that
would
be
awesome.
B
I
think
the
only
thing
that
might
be
like
a
little
hard
is,
I
do
use
figma,
for
you
know
kind
of
mocking
up
everything.
So
if
you
don't
have
like
a
figma
membership,
I
don't
know.
I
haven't
figured
out
how
we
could
work
around
that,
but
I
could
still
send
like
previews
to
everybody.
B
So
if
even
if
you're
interested
in,
like
being
part
of
like
the
you
know,
discussion
of
new
stuff
we're
working
on,
I
think
that
would
be
awesome
too.
And
then
here
we
have
like
a
road
map.
So
right
now
we're
working
on
refreshing,
the
logos,
colors
typography
and
establishing
the
voice
and
tone
of
the
brand.
That
stuff
is
almost
like
wrapped
up,
but
I
know
like
it's
probably
something
that
we
still
need
to
work
on
as
far
as
like
tooling
goes
as
well
as
like.
B
The
next
step
would
be
like
creating
a
diverse
set
of
iconography.
So
that's
like
basically
like
a
pool
of
icons
that
we
can
just
pull
from
at
any
time
and
obviously
that's
something
that
we
can
work
on
over
time
as
well,
and
the
brand
guidelines
website,
which
I
actually
have
a
pr
open
for
that
as
well
for
the
website.
B
It's
basically
just
gonna,
be
like
a
what
like
a
separate
page
that
like
matches
the
docs
layout
but
in
a
separate
area,
so
that
people
can
go
and
reference
the
like
the
brand
guidelines
at
any
point
when
they're
making
contributions,
and
then
we
were
talking
about
the
mascot
about
even
chan.
So
I
wonder
how
many
people
know
who
even
chan
is
to
this
day?
But
I
guess
it.
It's
the
two,
the
two.
These
guys.
B
B
Yeah,
I
think,
like
a
lot
of
people
were
saying
in
the
brand
feedback
that,
like
they
didn't,
really
know
who
they
were,
or
they
didn't
understand
how
they
fit
into
the
brand,
and
I
think
maybe
we
could
create
some
kind
of
character.
That
goes
with
the
brand,
but
I
feel
like
that's
not
like
a
huge
focus
or
a
huge
like
deal
breaker
right
now,
but
yeah.
I
know
people
were
saying
something
about
that,
but.
A
B
Yeah,
so
that's
that's
something
else
I
feel
like
if
we
were
to
create
another.
Even
chan,
rendition
we'd
probably
have
to
explain
to
people
who
the
heck
they
are
and
why
their
names
are
even
chan,
so,
but
I
feel
like
we
could
figure
that
out
like
later
on.
I
don't
think
that's
like
a
huge
focus
right
now,
but
it
is
on
the
list.
A
It
depends
so,
for
example
like
when
you
mention
the
there,
the
that
one
of
the
things
that
people
can
contribute
is
this
mascot
thingy
yeah,
because,
like
when
you,
when
you
talk
about
mascots
and
like
designing
a
mascot,
is
it
it's?
Is
it
part,
would
you
consider
it
as
a
part
of
product
design
or
or
rather
something.
B
No,
it's
more
like
visual
design.
Illustration,
visual
design,
I
mean
visual,
I
mean
I
feel
like
visual
design
can
be,
can
mean,
like
anything
in
any
sector,
there's
visual
design
in
product
design
too,
as
a
specialty,
but
I
guess
it'd
be
more
like
illustration
more
than
anything,
but
you
know
it's
yeah.
A
A
Yeah,
I
I
think
it
would
be
cool,
like
I
mean
I'm,
I'm
maybe
too
nerdy
and
and
old
school,
but,
like
I
love
my
laptop
when
it's
covered
with
stickers
and
I
always
loved
like
the
github
stickers,
yeah.
B
A
Like
hundreds
of
different
versions
of
this
octopus,
it's
like
it's
beautiful
like
I,
I
love
it
and
and
they're
always
nice,
so
it's
it
would
be.
B
A
A
And
we
have
to
work
and
have.
B
A
Awesome
so
in
case
of
figma,
because
I
in
case
of
software
development
or
or
or
technical
writing,
there's
a
lot
of
tools
that,
like
I
mean
you,
don't
have
to
have
access.
If
you
don't
need
to
in
case
of
figma,
I
I
in
case
of
product
design,
you
need
to
have
these
professional
tools
right.
B
Yeah,
I
mean
that's,
that's
the
hard
thing
is
like
you,
I
mean
you
as
a
creative
kind
of
have
to
like
invest
in
those
tools,
like
that's
just
part
of
your
toolkit
like
I've,
had
a
adobe
creative
suite
like
account
for
years,
and
I
just
never
cancel
it
because
I'm
always
gonna
need
it.
So
I
guess
that's
just
like
the
price
you
pay
as
being
like
a
designer.
B
You
know
any
kind
of
creative.
You
know
video
editor,
whatever
you
always
have
to
pay
for
your
tools,
so
I
guess,
like
most,
people
who
are
product
designers
already
should
have
either
a
figma
or
a
adobe
account.
So
I
have
both
of
them,
so
I'm
I'm
able
to
work
in
any
area.
So
you
know,
if
anything,
if
somebody
has
an
adobe
account
and
wants
to
you
know
work
in
there.
I
would
be
willing
to
work
in
there
too,
so
it
doesn't
even
matter
to
me.
A
Awesome
and
I
would
say
like
we,
don't
have
any
processes
for
it
in
asking
api
yet,
but
we
have
some
decent
funding
funding
from
different
corporations.
We
have
some
money
collected.
So
if
we
get
someone
in
the
community
that
wants
to
regularly
help
out
missy
here
in
the
project
and
like
you,
don't
have
license
and
you
can't
afford
it
like
you're,
just
starting
with
product
design,
and
you
just
want
to
learn,
then
just
let
us
know
like
I,
I
think
we
can
figure
out
something
like
sponsor
your
license
or
something.
A
There
are
different
ways
that
we
could
support
you
as
long
as
you
want
to
help
us
we
and-
and
we
can
help
at
least
by
giving
the
license.
Then
then,
let's
just
keep
it
in
mind.
A
B
Yeah,
okay!
So
how?
Where
are
we
on
this
road
map
here
after
mascots?
So
we're
also
talking
about
like
putting
together
a
marketing
campaign
for
rolling
out
the
new
new
brand?
B
A
B
Others
I
mean,
I
would
say
we
use
the
word
campaign
like
very
loosely,
because
I
mean
I'm
already
working
on
rolling
out
the
new
styles
on
the
website,
but
maybe
it'll
just
be
like
a
slow
process
like
just
trickling
everything
you
know
once
it
wanted
once
at
a
time
or
I
don't.
I
don't
know
if
there's
like
a
certain
plan
that
we
should
follow,
but
it's
kind
of
a
lot
of
things
so.
A
I
mean,
let's,
let's
discuss
it's
for
sure,
are
going
to
use
our
social
medias
to
share
it
meetings.
B
A
But
if
there's
something
new
that
we
didn't
do
before
needed,
let's,
let's
try
it.
A
I
would
definitely
like,
after
the
conference
2021
after
seeing
how
much
we
spent
like
on
like
really
like
financial
marketing
financial
paid
marketing
and
like
it
converted
almost
into
nothing,
then
I
would
say
like
now:
let's,
let's
do
it
by
like
improvising
and
using
our
own
contacts
and
and
people
and
just
share
with
the
community,
and
it's
gonna
be
better
than
doing
any
professional
campaign.
I
guess.
B
Right,
yeah
yeah,
I
mean
I
think
we
could
always
keep
it
simple
like
it
could
just
be
simple
graphics
for
social
media.
Just
saying
like
look
at
our
new
look
or
check
out
check
us
out
now
or
something
like
that,
and
I
also
was
working
on
a
like
brand
or
a
logo
animation
for
the
like
transition
into
the
new
logo,
so
that
could
potentially
be
a
good
kind
of
transition
or
just
a
good
social
media
post
or
something.
A
B
A
B
So
and
then
we
have
develop
design
system
and
implement
across
products
websites.
So
that's
something
that,
like
we'll,
probably
work
on
like
all
the
time,
I'm
thinking
right
now
it
could
be
like
a
very
base
layer
of
a
design
system,
and
the
good
thing
is
because
we
use
tailwind
css
that
it's
very
easier.
It's
rather
easy
to
implement.
You
know
pretty
quickly,
but
I
think
there's
still
going
to
be
some
kind
of
work
involved
in
that
too.
B
So
maybe
I'm
thinking
just
like
releasing
that
in
stages
and
adding
to
it
over
time.
So
whoever
wants
to
be
part
of
the
design
system-
I
know
yash
was
was
talking
to
me-
he's
a
new
contributor,
so
I
think
he's
in
the
chat
too
so
hi,
but
he
works
on
design
systems
a
lot.
So
I
think
he
showed
interest
in
that.
So
anybody
else
willing
to
work
with
me.
That
would
be
awesome
and
then
also
the
ui
kit.
B
So
fran-
and
I
were
talking
about
this
the
other
day
too-
he
was
mentioning
how
we
have
a
huge
need
for
just
creating
a
ui
kit
for
the
html
template.
If
I'm,
you
know
right
on
that.
B
Yeah,
so
it's
it's!
The
area
in
the
studio.
B
It's
basically
this
stuff
here
that
you
know
translates
to
the
async
kbi
spec
file.
So
I
guess
we
were
just
talking
about
like
ways
that
we
can
make
this
look
better
because
it's
kind
of
like
all
over
the
place-
and
this
is
like
a
huge
priority
of
something
that
needs
to
get
worked
on,
so
that's
probably
going
to
move
into
the
high
priority
seat.
B
Actually,
so,
of
course,
if
anybody
has
feedback
or
wants
to
be
involved
in
that
feel,
free
and
so
new
website
design
based
on
design
system
and
ui
kit,
that's
something
that's
already
being
kind
of
worked
on,
and
feedback
and
iteration
on
design
system
and
ui
kit.
That's
something!
That's
gonna
be
constantly
moving.
So.
A
B
Because
these
have
like
steps,
one
two,
three
four
five,
six
seven
eight
nine
like
doesn't
mean
that
they
fall
in
any
specific
order,
we're
trying
to
kind
of
like
hit
every
area
little
by
little
and
then
just
keep
going
with
that
so
yeah.
And
then,
if
you
want
to
be
part
of
the
conversation
of
design,
join
our
slack
and
join
the
design
channel,
which
is
an
I
think,
it's
a
default
channel.
So
if
you
join
the
workspace
you'll
automatically
get
added,
but
it
is
a
newer
channel.
B
A
There's
one
more
question
for
me:
when
can
you
go
to
the
roadmap?
Again?
Oh
yeah,
and
I
think
it's
number
two
number
two
yeah
visual
marketing
is.
It
is
in
this
in
this.
In
these
two
words,
do
we
have
also,
for
example,
a
I
think
you
say
it's
iconography
like,
for
example,
this
meeting
like
we
have
regular
live
stream
designed
for
contributors
that
has
a
brand
name.
Let's
talk
about
contributing,
and
we
like,
for
example,
would
like
to
have
a
dedicated
card
like
that.
A
We
can
share
on
social
media
that
we
have
like,
for
example,
that
now
we
have
this
live
stream.
So
have
a
cart
where
we
put
in
the
name
of
the
host
name
of
the
guest.
If
you
have
one
an
hour
where
the
meeting
happens
like
what's
the
content
of
the
of
the
live
stream,
so
so
this
kind
of
creative
work.
Is
it
part
of
step
two
or
is
it
something
very
much
individual.
B
A
This
is,
I
think,
that
at
least
looking
on
others
how
they
promote
their
content
and
we
simply
want
to
reach
as
as
larger
group
of
the
of
asking
api
community
as
possible.
So
we
need
to
kind
of
have
this
nice
way
of
saying
like
yeah.
We're
gonna
have
a
really
nice
event
here.
So
have
it
nicely
visually
nicely
presented,
so
people
really
see
it
and
want
to
join
the
live
stream
would
be
nice
to
have
these
cards.
B
Yeah
absolutely
yeah.
I
think
that
maybe
we
can
just
have
on
the
road
map
like
like
general
marketing
materials
or
marketing
design,
or
something
like
that
or
social
media.
Something
like
that,
but
yeah
either
way.
I've
made
note
of
it
to
add
that
to
the
roadmap,
so
people
know
they
can
contribute
with
that.
B
I've
also
been
working
on
like
kind
of
adding
these
issues
so
that
anybody
can
go
in
and
contribute
to
one
that
they
have
interest
in,
and
it's
actually
cool
because
there's
like
a
projects
thing
in
in
github.
Now,
where
you
can,
you
know
kind
of
keep
track
of
what
needs
to
get
done.
What's
already
working
getting
work
done
and
then
things
that
have
been
completed
and
merged
or
whatever.
So
I
actually
have
to
work
on
adding
these
issues
in.
B
A
Yeah
and
so
like
like
important
message
for
folks,
because
sometimes
I
what
I
like
basing
on
my
experience
with
the
community,
I
know
that
sometimes
people
are
just
afraid
to
to
contribute,
because
when
they
see
that
there
is
already
a
focus
on
something
that,
like
people
work
on
it,
so
they
are
afraid
to
commit
because
they
commit
to
the
to
some
work
because,
like
they
don't
work
full-time,
they
sometimes
have
just
few
hours
a
week.
So
they
don't
want
to
block
the
work.
A
So
like
folks,
the
list
is
split.
Pretty
large,
so
don't
be
feel
shy,
like
just
go
to
issues.
Leave
a
comment
write
down
slack
talk
to
us
like
if,
if
you
know
that
you're
not
super
available
and
like,
for
example,
now
missy
knows
that
she
she
works
on
update
of
the
website.
So
so
like
that's
the
work
that
it's
happening
now.
A
So
if
you,
you
can't
contribute
to
something
that
is
happening
now
then
just
ask-
and
I
bet
missy
will
figure
out
like
on
what
task
is
like
something
that
can
be
done,
even
in
two
months
like
like
with
this,
for
example,
this
card
for
for
this
live
stream
like
we're
not
in
a
rush
like
for
us.
The
most
important
is
to
have
these
live
streams,
have
them
recorded,
so
we
can
share
later
with
others
when
they
join
slack.
A
So
it's
nice
to
have
cards,
it's
not
something
that
if
we
don't
have
it
now,
it's
like
we're
gonna
cry
or
something
it
can
come
later
and
so
for
sure
tasks
like
the
tasks
like
this
it
will.
It's
gonna
be
easy
for
for
missy,
also
to
identify
them
and
tell
you
like.
Okay,
you
can
contribute
to
this,
like
you
have
like
one
or
two
months
to
work
on
it,
because
nobody
else
will
pick
it
up.
A
So
just
just
keep
it
in
mind,
because
I
I
see
in
community
that,
like
sometimes
folks,
are
just
afraid,
because
they
think
that
they
waste
maintainers
time
so
yeah,
just
don't
assume,
always
better
to
ask.
B
Yeah-
and
I
think
to
add
to
that-
I
don't
want
it
to
seem
like
even
that,
like
just
because
I'm
the
only
person
full-time
working
on
design
related
tasks
that,
like
my
say,
is
like
the
end-all
be-all,
and
you
know
everything
that
missy
says
is
the
right
thing
like
no,
and
I
definitely
like
it,
especially
if
I'm
already
working
on
something,
and
you
see
that
I
don't
want
that
to
be
discouraging
either
because
more
more
often
than
not,
I'm
looking
for
feedback
from
people
to
you
know
give
me
confirmation
that
what
I'm
doing
is
correct
and
yeah
so,
and
I
also
would
love
the
opportunity
to
work
with
other
designers
as
well
in
this.
B
You
know
in
this
area.
It's
it's
a
very
like
I
think,
like
working
in
software
and
like
kind
of
merging,
like
your
design.
Workflow
with
your
developing
workflow
is
like
very
a
very
interesting
thing,
and
I
think
that
could
like
you
know,
foster
a
lot
of
creativity
and
a
lot
of
collaboration.
So
yeah
I
mean
like
never
feel
discouraged
or
anything,
I'm
always
looking
for
somebody
to
talk
to
to
like
bounce
ideas
off
of
so
yeah.
Just
wanted
to
say
that.
A
If
you
have
questions
like,
we
have
still
20
minutes
for
the
live
stream,
so
it's
definitely
designed
to
be
interactive.
So
if
you
have
some
specific
questions
on
the
roadmap,
you
can
also
ask
it
now
and
if
you.
B
A
You
want,
you
cannot
even
join
us
live.
If,
if
you
wish,
I
can
just
send
you
a
link
and
you
can
join.
Actually
I
can
send
you
a
link
now
and
if
you
want,
you
can
join.
B
I
actually
like
it
a
lot,
it's
kind
of
like
hectic
but
beautiful
at
the
same
time.
You
know
because
there's
like
so
much
going
on,
but
it's
cool
to
see
that
you
know
people
are
excited
about
the
same
things
and
want
to
like
discover
solutions
together,
and
I
think
that,
like
creates,
like
a
great
you
know,
environment,
to
like
make
some
really
cool
stuff.
B
So
it
also
like
gives
us
a
huge
community
to
like
rely
on
when
we
release
new
stuff
and
yeah,
so
that
that
helps
with
kind
of
like
cross
testing
like
new
features
and
stuff
that
we
release
so
yeah.
I
I
find
it
really
cool
so
far.
I've
been
in
the
branding
world
recently
and
I'm
excited
to
kind
of
start
doing
some.
You
know
user
testing
and,
like
rolling
out,
you
know
new
features
and
stuff
and
across
the
tooling
and
the
website
so
yeah,
but
I've
been
enjoying
it
so
far.
B
I
think
it's
been
what
two
three
months,
four
almost
four
months
so
doesn't
seem
like
it.
A
Yeah,
it's
I
mean
time
here,
flies
really
fast.
That's
what
I
noticed
about
open
source
like
yeah,
not
sure
why,
because
it's
like
the
same
work
but
like
now
at
the
end
of
january,
it's
my
second
year
full
time
on
nothing
epi
and
like
no
no
way.
I
I
still
feel
like.
I
just
started
like
really.
It's
super
fast.
B
Yeah,
I
think
also
what's
pretty
awesome
about
it
is
there's
like
there's
not
as
much
like
pressure
as
there
would
be.
If
you're
working
for
an
agency
like
me
or
even
a
corporate
kind
of
place,
it's
you
can
kind
of
just
work
on
whatever
you
feel
like
working
on
that
day,
which
is
really
cool
and
yeah.
B
I
mean
I
I
think,
even
for
contributors
who
are
just
you
know,
working
on,
like
you
know,
random
things
that
it's
pretty
rewarding
to
like
be
part
of
something
like
super
huge,
so
or
not
super
huge,
but
you
know
part
of
something.
That's
like
going
to
be
super
huge
in
the
future.
So
that's
what
I
see.
B
I
mean
I
would
say
no
because
I
feel
like
you
could
still
give
like
feedback
in
areas
that
you
see.
That
needs
to
be
improved,
like,
for
example,
on
that,
pr
that
I
have
open
or
it's
it's
actually
a
draft
right
now,
but
where
we're
reskinning
the
website,
if
you
see
like
oh
those
colors,
are
like,
for
instance,
fran
told
me,
he
was
like
the
pink
is
too
much
there's
too
much
pink,
so
I
like
tried
to
dial
it
down
a
little
bit
and
that
actually
like
helped
me.
B
A
And
did
he
modulate
his
voice?
This
way
like
there's
too
much
pink
too
much
pink.
B
Yeah,
as
my
assumption
is
like
there's
too
much
pink
or
something
I
don't
know
which
I
was
like,
it's
actually
purple
get
it
right.
B
A
But
but
the
the
part
about
the
cards,
the
not
cards,
it's,
what
is
it
called
illustrations
or
iconography?
I'm
not.
B
A
I
don't
know
the
naming,
but
the
so
let
me
describe
it
again
with
my
simple
words,
this
design
specific
for
a
tool,
because
I
remember
from
your
presentation
where
you
showed
this
like,
like
a
card
or
or
in
illustration
for
for
generator
or
for
modalina
library,
etc.
A
As
far
as
I
remember
they
they
are,
they
are
different
only
if
it
comes
to
colors,
right
and
and
the
name
of
the
library
so
might
be,
that
we
could
automate
generation
of
this
in
iconography.
Do
you
know
what
I'm
did?
I.
B
A
As
far
as
I
remember
remember
from
the
presentation
they
were
like,
they
had
the
same,
how
to
say
it
like
the
same
style.
But
lucas
is
a
designer.
A
Can
how
can
I
be
designer,
if
I'm
not
even
able
to
use
the
proper
terms,
so
can
you
can
you
show
those?
Maybe
it's
gonna
be
easier?
If
I.
B
B
Think
for
now
I
I
was
only
coming
up
with
the
idea
of
using
different
colors
to
differentiate
between
the
different
tools
that
we
have,
because
I
was
inspired
by
how
we
used
pink
kind
of
to
like
or
that
magenta
color
to
you
know
define
what
the
studio
is.
For
example,
let
me
see,
I
think
it's
in
here.
B
Okay:
okay,
let's
see.
A
But
I'm
actually
referring
to
the
question
from
from
akshat
about
the,
if
it's
only
design
stuff
that
requires
to
be
contributed.
So,
let's
see
what
you
have
there.
Oh.
B
A
Yeah
yeah,
so
so
here
you
show
this:
how
brand
design
can
be
also
used
for
tools
branding?
So
we
have
like
this
special
color
and
name
studio,
special
color
for
modelina,
special
color
for
parser
b,
etc,
but
they,
what
I
mean
is
that
they
are
the
the
difference
just
between
those
dif.
These
tools
is
just
a
color
right.
B
Yeah,
I'm
that
they're
definitely
not
solidified
in
any
way
but
yeah.
I
think
what
we
talked
about
and
what
other
people
have
given
feedback
on
is
that
it
would
be
cool
to
differentiate
the
tooling
with
just
color,
but
then
we
talked
about
using
color
as
a
differentiator
for
what
was
it?
The
I'm,
not
a
software
developer,
so
I
don't
know
the
terms.
But
what
is
when
you
see,
I'm
like
in
your
shoes
right
now,
lucas.
A
B
A
Yeah
but
but
it's
still
just
different
color
right,
so
the
the
look
and
feel
of
the
icon
stays
the
same.
It's
just
the
the
color
is
different
right.
A
The
font
and
the
name
of
the
tool,
it's
again
like
it
depends
on
the
tool.
So
let's
say
we
have
a
new
tool
that
we
accepted
for
organization
was
bundler,
it's
a
library
that
can
bundle
us
in
api
files,
two
files
into
one.
So
basically,
we
could
also
have
such
a
dedicated
logo
for
for
bundler
and
difference
would
be
just
the
color
right.
B
Yeah
yeah
so
yeah
you
got
it
right,
so
that
was
the
idea.
So
obviously
we
can
you
know
if
anybody
has
feedback
on
that,
but
yeah
it's.
The
idea
is
to
keep
the
logo
the
same
and
without
I
I
think
I
like
had
tried
doing
like.
Oh,
where
is
it
like
something
like
this,
but
I'm
like
guys.
This
is
really
rough.
I'm
so
sorry
like
something
like
this,
but
I
was
like
it's
like
async
api.
Then
studio
is
like
so
much
words.
B
A
B
A
I'm
not
questioning
it,
I
don't
know.
A
I
I
actually
I
like
the
idea
it's.
I
just
wanted,
first
to
make
sure
that
we
explain
it
to
others
and
now
going
back
again
to
this
question
like
like,
and
I'm
gonna
answer
in
a
in
a
question
to
me,
see
like
missy.
A
So,
for
example,
one
of
the
things
that
somebody
can
contribute
that
is
not
purely
design
related
is
you
remember
not
sure
if
dale
dave
is
still
with
us
on
the
in
the
chat,
but
we
in
one
of
the
issues
we
had
this
conversation
that
like
like
with
the
cards
for
the
conference,
that
you
can
actually
automate
generation
of
the
cards
with
some
serverless
solution
like
have
a
command
like,
like
you,
ask
some,
some
whatever
serverless,
whatever
we
built,
but
you
basically
have
a
tool
that
you
say.
A
Okay,
I
have
a
oh
yeah
dave.
Can
you
remind
me
like
so
like?
Technically
we
could
automate
generation
of
those
those
logos,
those
those
banners
right
like
you,
would
as
an
input.
What
you
would
have
to
provide.
You
would
just
have
to
provide
the
name
of
the
library
and
the
caller
and
the
tool
could
return
to
you.
Different
versions
of
the
logo.
A
Do
I
get
it
right
that
I
mean
technically
it's
possible
right.
Can
you
you
do
it
technically
because.
A
B
Yeah,
it's
svg,
it's
all
just
like
paths,
so
yeah
yeah.
You
could
definitely
do
that
if
anything
like
yeah,
it
would
just
be
a
matter
of
changing
the
linear
gradient
on
the
svg
and
then
yeah,
but
it
would
be
like
also
I
mean
the
problem.
Is
it's
not
like
live
text
they're,
all
like
paths,
you
know,
so
I
think
what
would
work
best
is
just
having
like
an
identifier
for
each
logo
and
then
just
switching
it
out
like
based
on
your
option.
B
A
Yeah
but,
for
example,
if
but
then
like,
if
I
have
a
a
a
new
library
like
like,
I
said
like
let's
say
we
have
this
already
in
place
months
ago,
but
last
month
we
we
accepted
a
bundler
and
like
like
maintainer
of
bundler.
What
would
he
she
had
to
do
to
get
the
the
logo
then,
like?
A
You
would
probably
have
to
be
asked
to
do
something
to
enable
the
drop
down,
and
I'm
thinking
like
about
pure
self-service
here
that
you
just
you
just
tell
the
name
of
the
library
tell
the
color
and
like
you,
the
whole
svg
is
actually
can
be
generated.
B
Yeah,
I
think
it
would
make
more
sense.
Just
have
the
whole
thing
like
done
right
or
and
just
change
it
based
on
like
what
tool
you're
trying
to
yeah.
A
B
Know
what
I'm
saying
like
that?
That's
I
guess
where
my
head's
going,
because
it's
like
like
I
said
it's
not
live
text,
so
you
can't
just
like
change
the
text.
It's
like
actual
paths
that
are
saved
as
like
outlines,
but
you
could
change
the
color,
but
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
change
like
the
text
because
it's
all
flattened
so.
B
Yeah
yeah,
so
it's
like
they're
outlines
of
each
shape.
So
even
though
it's
type
it's
it's
all
shapes
because
it's
too,
you
know,
let's
say
if
somebody
doesn't
have
that
font
on
their
computer,
then
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
see
it
in
the
style
that
we
see
it.
So
you
outline
them
as
shapes
and
basically
like
the
svg
is
a
group
of
paths.
At
that
point,.
A
Yeah,
but
I
I
think
it's
there's
gonna,
be
a
library
that
can
generate
it
easily:
okay,
something
but
yeah
cool,
so
yeah,
that's
something!
But
it's
it's
not
simple
contribution,
that's
something
that
yeah
we
have
to
discuss
in
in
details,
but
yeah.
One
of
the
examples
because,
like
what
we've
learned
here
in
asking
api,
is
that
like
we
have
to
automate
everything
like
every
single
thing
because,
like
at
some
point
of
time,
you're
just
overloaded
with
right.
A
B
Yeah
I
mean
I
definitely
I've
been
thinking
about.
I
know
I
owe
you,
what
is
it
the
speaker
cards
or
something
like
that?
An
automation
of
the
speaker
card,
so
it
just
you
know,
like
you-
can
just
type
it
in
without
having
to
bother
me
to
like
push
pixels
around
so.
A
B
A
First,
let's
get
a
design,
but
then
let's
automate
it
like
I
mean
I
mean,
like
you
know
my
skills
like
I'm.
If
I
would
have
to
on
my
own
and
edit
it
like
I'm
gonna,
learn
to
click
basic
stuff,
but
if
there's
something
changed
in
the
ui
and
I
have
to
click
somewhere
else,
like
that's
gonna
be
hard,
I
prefer
to
automate.
B
A
B
B
A
I
mean
maybe
for
logo
only.
It
would
not
make
sense,
but
again,
when
you
think
about
cards
for
for
this
live
stream,
and
then
I
bet
in
future,
we
get.
We
get
different
like
a
front
host
this.
I
don't
remember
the
title
of
the
live
stream,
but
yeah.
He
also
wants
to
do
it
regularly
this
year
and
he
needs
cards
as
well.
A
One
library
that
can
like
give
you
different,
artifacts
different
logos,
then
that
would
be
nice.
A
Because,
like
even
because
there
are
no
questions,
so
I'm
gonna
rumble
about
the
topic
again
like
do
it.
For
example
like
this,
this
live
stream
and
like
next
week
we
start
these
meetings
about
the
assignment
epi
30
release,
like
it's
simple,
I
think
like
in
in
theory.
It's
super
simple
like
for
me
to
go
to
google
calendar
and
create
new
event,
save
it
and
it's
there,
but,
like
believe
me
like,
even
though
it
takes
me
only
three
minutes
every
time
I
do
it
now,
it
hurts
like
it's
like
really.
A
A
B
You
know
I
actually
feel
like
having
those
little
mini
tasks
that
you
can
get
done
in
seconds
makes
you
feel
like
you're
doing
a
whole
lot
more
work
than
you
actually
are
just
kidding.
I
mean
I,
I
do
a
lot
of
work,
not
saying
that
I
don't
do
a
lot
of
work,
but
no,
but
I
mean
like
it's
like
something
that
you
can
check
off
your
list
pretty
fast.
So
it
gives
me
like
satisfaction
to
like
do
little
mini
tasks.
I
don't
know,
but
you
obviously
don't
feel
that
way.
A
A
B
A
A
A
A
Exactly
so
folks,
I
don't
see
any
more
comments
in,
or
questions
coming
from
your
site.
We're
gonna
slowly
finish.
I
hope
you
liked
it.
You
liked
the
topic.
I
enjoyed
it
a
lot
and
it
was
awesome
to
have
you
here.
Missy
yeah,.
A
And
I
think
we
have
to
make
a
small
shout
out
to
alejandra
because,
like
in
the
end,
she
triggered
this
like
having
you
in
the
in
the
call.
I
remember
she
made
a
comment
somewhere
in
slack
yeah.
B
A
Yeah,
I'm
always
really
afraid
to
refuse
when
alejandra
points
out
something
so
yeah.
B
Yeah
she
always
has
good
ideas
and,
although,
when
she
first,
this
is
actually
my
first
live
stream.
So
when
she
mentioned
it,
I
was
like
okay,
all
right,
I
could
do
it.
I
guess.
A
Yeah
you,
you
did
like
a
pro,
so
you
shouldn't
worry.
A
Okay,
so
any
final
words
from
you
missy
to
the
audience.
B
I
don't
know
I
just
want
to
say,
like
you
know,
thanks
to
everybody
who
has,
you
know,
contributed
so
far
on
design
or
just
had
feedback,
and
we
definitely
want
more
of
that,
so
keep
up,
keep
it
up
and
yeah.
I'm
excited
to
see
you
know
how
far
we
can
take
this
thing
and
you
know
we
could
actually
you
know
make
it
look
like
as
polished
as
we
want
to-
and
you
know
I
don't
know,
I'm
just
excited
for
the
future.
Be
awesome.
B
It's
gonna
just
be
your
face
on
top
of
eve's
body
right
now,.
A
I,
like
I
need
nice
stickers,
so
I
I
I
cannot
be
there
on
a
sticker,
so.
A
No,
that's
not
how
it
works.
It
really
needs
to
be
like
beautiful
but
yeah
anyway.
Again,
thanks
a
lot
for
joining
the
for
folks.
Listening.
A
A
Sorry,
what
did
I
want
to
say?
Yeah
recordings
will
be
available
available
right
after
we
finish
the
live
stream,
so
we
can
share
with
your
folks
if
they
didn't
manage
to
join
like.
Let
me
see
you
can
share
it
with
your
friends
and
say.
A
First,
live
stream
yeah,
but
yeah
again,
thank
you
and
see
you
until
next
time.