AsyncAPI Related to AsyncAPI Spec 3.0 release, 31 Aug 2022

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From YouTube: Spec 3.0 meeting 1 (August 31, 2022)

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https://github.com/asyncapi/community/issues/443

A

Okay, let's confirm it started.

A

Oh, I made a mistake in the type of nice yeah anyway. uh Welcome to anyone. That's watching it's um it's regular! I I live stream that we're heading uh to discuss topics related to speak. Three speak! Oh my god! It's not my day! Spec 30 development, um the usual host jonas, is on holidays and a friend that was supposed to back him is on another meeting and he'll be late. So that's why you have to watch my face again.

A

um So, let's I'll open the agenda.

A

And let's see so, there's one item on the agenda but yeah it's it's from fran. It's about channels, um changes in the channels and the I think it's his proposal about identifying uh channel references by.

A

By I know the title is: let channels be identified by an id rather than their address, but I think that actually his proposal is to actually the address, not the id but yeah. We need to wait for him anyway, um and sergio made the comments, not sure if you saw it much here, yeah.

B

Yeah yeah, so we have announcement. uh We are getting closer to the next version of the purser api parser js, but we need to discuss how we wanted to do that.

B

We'll have a breaking change on the api side and at the moment, parser.js is used almost in every tooling in our ecosystem. So we want to make some slide. The you know a change to the api with the new api and also, if compatibility with the old one yeah, for example, the generator and all templates use the old api, the model apis and we wanna.

B

Now we wanna make and now.

B

Make the new api optional and probably in generator, you will write in the template, configuration probably some field like the api version.

B

Second or first, and by this you will enable the new api or the old one here, but we need to discuss that. So if someone is interested interested with it, I put in the chat the link to the issues and yeah and that's it.

A

But you want to discuss it during the call or.

B

A

It's not related.

C

B

And so only to on the tooling side.

A

Okay, so I paste it in youtube. Channel.

B

Thank you very much.

A

Okay, it's basically about parser to zero.

B

A

um Any other topics before fan joins dale. You have some questions, maybe.

C

Nope sorry, I've been um super busy with with day job stuff for quite a while. So I'm just sort of resurfacing and trying to catch back up on all the stuff I've missed for the last month or so.

A

Yeah also holidays did not help much.

A

It's interesting. How like people enter holiday holidays, and it's like immediately the brain functions differently. I'm not sure how you folks, but I felt like really distracted all the time.

A

But maybe because kids did not go to school as well so and they were at home all the time.

A

And missy you're just listen or.

C

Yeah, I'm a fly on the wall today.

A

I'm super curious about your name on the list of the participants super powered you're using some app integration with zoom or.

C

Yeah, I don't know it's this like weird app that somebody suggested for me to use, and I don't even really know how I'm using it, but it like it tells you when uh it's like a it's like a toolbar app where it like tells you when meetings occur and I could set it to like auto, join um so that's kind of what I just did, but I don't know how to edit it to keep my name from being saved from saying via super power. Dot me so yeah.

A

It looks nice, it's like you're super powered.

C

A

What do you mean by auto join like it automatically locks you into zone or.

C

So it'll like tell me that there's a meeting starting in five minutes and then there's like a button to say, join now or join in five minutes um so yeah when I click the button it like join in five minutes. It'll just like I could keep working on whatever I'm working on and then it'll just like auto join the zoom meeting, which is pretty cool.

A

C

A

As long as it auto joins with the camera off, then it's.

C

Right which it did, which was good.

A

Okay, so let me entertain you a few minutes more.

A

There's one topic you might be interested so, along with the spec 30 meetings, we also had few meetings related purely to the request, reply pattern and how we could support it at asking api, so I'll share a link with others if they would like to go back to it, because um I recently started thinking about this pattern again, because I was watching a recording from um from arnold arno and ludovic from adeo, where they were talking about how they use async api and they were actually using it with kafka as an api with kafka, and also they were implementing request reply and many things that they mentioned during discussion about their use case and then the whole case study actually some things that are proposed for request reply match nicely.

A

So if anybody is interested with this topic, let me just scrub the the playlist for this whole discussion.

A

Or we don't have a playlist.

A

Oh, I don't think we have it saved, we don't have it saved as a playlist but yeah after the title of the of the video you can kind of guess what are the names of the other videos.

A

So yeah, like finally kind of official use case, use case ahead. That will help the development of this back behind me.

A

Let's maybe see if I can already provide some context for the item that we have in the agenda about these channels. Okay, so the proposal about having channels identified by ide came from sergio, and then we had super long discussion there and there's a lot of comments.

A

I don't think I can digest it quickly. To summarize, oh, my god,.

A

Yeah, but actually so I was I'm always curious, because whenever front talks about this that it's like, it's not the nicest thing to have um some pointers elements handled by by simple ids like so, for example, you know um some time ago we enabled security information on a channel level, so you can specify like that operations operations, yeah yeah, so that given operation is secured by a specific security scheme, and we did it by simply having a the user to use it.

A

This way that they provide the name of the of the given security object, so we map by the id and and front always says that it's not the nicest, because we're losing the opportunity that some ids by default support, uh dollar ref and the references um and like I've, never used it.

A

So I'm curious, like folks on the call like do you ever like in your ids when, whenever you edit any document- and you have some json pointers, uh json reference, uh do you do you actually use some id plugins to quickly resolve them to see? What's what the reference where the reference is really pointing to do you like, when you're, even even when you're, writing, async api document and you use ref, uh do you manually check where it's uh pointing or do you use some plugin to just click the link and see the resource.

A

You know what I'm.

B

I only have the pointer for that. I mean the link exactly.

A

Yeah but it's not any plugins just sending that any id results. Yeah.

A

But when it's when it's starting with hashtag like like when you reference something inside document.

A

Does it also work.

B

Yeah in normal json.

A

B

In my case, I don't know.

A

But you basically click and then you go. You get scrolled to a section. Okay,.

B

To the given line, okay.

A

And you use it sometimes.

A

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A

Okay, I'm not sure if you, uh if you have something like this in your country, so in poland we have uh a saying like academic uh quarter, so basically cuadrons academic, which basically means that I come you can be late for any meeting, but maximum is 15 minutes.

A

So let's say if it's uh it's 14 minutes past six, if it's 16 and we have really nothing else to discuss, we call it the day and and finish and we can discuss the the issue in two weeks.

C

A

Or you wanna, can you wanna wait? We can wait. No.

C

A

That makes sense.

A

So do you have it like like in uh like in england, for example, do you say something like this.

C

Yeah, I mean I'm not even sure we're as generous as 15 minutes. To be honest,.

C

B

I remember I remember yeah.

A

Okay, it's 16 past.

A

So yeah, um let's call it the day. um Please have a look on the on the proposal that we will for sure discuss in two weeks or just during the discussion on github, because it's getting longer and longer so it's gonna take some time to resolve. I guess and um and yeah.

A

It was good to see you after holidays and then now get back to work.

C

Good to see you all again, bye.