Backdrop CMS Design meetings, 4 Jan 2018

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Today’s design agenda:http://bit.ly/2BUJSLg

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All right we are on air Happy, New, Year everybody. This is the first backdrop meeting of 2018, so that's kind of exciting. This meeting is to check in on design tasks that we're currently working on the backdrop there's a couple new things that we launched on the backdrop main website.

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Since our last meeting, we have the new footer, the new header drop down menus since the last meeting, I added a hover State in an active State to the menu links on backtrack, CMS, org I'm, going to assume if nobody complains about it, that this is good to go and I will close the issue on github.

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But if there are any designers out there, who think that it could be improved, I am NOT a designer something to beat that so feel free to weigh. In on that issue, which is issue number 305 and the backdrop ops group backdrop CMS or issue queue on, there's a couple things we're working on, adding to the backup, CMS, org I'm, hoping we'll be able to get a little bit closer to the new homepage, design for ease of doctor 1.9, but obviously we'll focus on nine first, so we're kind of itching itching to works.

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Getting that new design, there's a pull request in the queue for the try out back draft page, which I'll have another look at today. We need to get that much but haven't gotten there yet on the forum site, which is also new and exciting to us. Since the last meeting I pushed the same menu changes, I think there should be cover States, enacted States on those links as well. I'll double check that it doesn't look like they're.

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There I think it's not pushed yet and on each forum, conversation I added in just the comment: styles, the flag links in particular about whether you're marking something is useful or an accepted. The answer or spam and I tried to meet the designs of the forum site. A little more in line with the aesthetic of the main site, so, hopefully I didn't.

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Yeah, hopefully, I didn't get too far off brand with those, but I was just kind of fiddling with it. A few adjustments so again, if anyone's using the forum and if you're a designer, you have a knack for these kind of things and there's something that bothers here or something that would be pretty easy to fix, they're, definitely open to improvements anywhere.

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You see anything so the issue for forum links is number 18 in the back drop box group, the forum issue queue and I'm going to go ahead and close that one activity as a meteor key complaints.

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Obviously, if something comes up later, we will definitely open and eventually address that, but just because that's new I thought I was putting out and see if we can meet it looks like you had a question about active state, so there should be an active state on the top-level links, but I'm not sure if set of menu items have an active state.

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If you have any recommendations of what we should do, they hit. The key active I can add that I just don't have that inspiration enough. Not the line makes sense on some buildings, yeah.

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Look, it looks like right now. It looks like the active state is the same as the hover State for the many items that are in the top level and then just when you're in a sub item, the top level doesn't have the indicator so.

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The top level needs to retain its active State when we're on a sub link. Yeah.

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What about that one like right now should the release cycles have to be a different look different to like when you have the drop-down open to this? Probably, should it just be that way where it's already that color, should it I.

B

Think, using the same as the hovers is simple: if you're looking to just go forward without any design input the network, that's better than nothing. Okay, I'll, do that, but again, like I feel, like I, just want to put the plea out there. But if we had designs for this sort of thing, then we would do what the designer told us to do.

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Wouldn't that be great, if you guys someone out there had somebody to do work that you just had to tell us what to do and then they do it for you I'll do it. We just developers.

A

Love having pretty pictures, okay, yeah, that's the good.

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A good thing backdrop is trying to, in general, be a little bit more designer friendly than Drupal had been in the past, we're looking at WordPress, which is a wonderful designer, friendly tool that has a lot of designers just kind of get into it and make what they want and I think part of making backdrop attractive to designers means that our primary website needs to be attractive as well, and so, if we have any designers that are, you know inspired to help us improve it joining these meetings, it's a great way to get your voice heard, we're obviously eager for feedback.

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So if you have any time just you know, 5-10 minutes a week, jumping in and being like here's my opinion on your drop-down menus or here's what you should do when you're you know left alignment.

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Or whatever it is, we definitely want more designers and bobs and backdrop. You do not have to be a coder, we value your feedback probably more than then. We have a lot of coders in the midst and we need you more than we need more coders, so I would definitely encourage anyone. Who's interested in helping with design to jump in are.

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These those buttons that you're talking about yes.

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Just kind of styled the most thought you saw fit.

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Yeah so I first made them different colors and then I thought they looked kind of funny by themselves and then I may give them rounded corners and then I was like. Oh, they look kind of like buttons and then I gave them a job shadow. So this is Jen designing, which is not actually designing. It's just kind of sticking CSS on them and seeing if it looks better or worse so, I got the rounded corners from our general aesthetic on dr. PMS, org I used the comment.

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Stanley step block at the top was something that we use there before I put the round photos for people. So if you go to a page where somebody has a picture, you see their smiling face in a circle, but yeah I.

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Think if you go to you know, it's green screen cast says alarians picture there, so this is just styles I copied from the other site and then the links there I chose the colors, reddish or pink in this case, for whether it's spammer abusive. That same thing is true for whether it's a comment over the forum post itself, the hopeful button that will feed into the most helpful comments list, which will appear at the top and if you actually authored a topic, there's also a blue link there.

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That will mark an answer as the accepted answer and that also appear at the top and blue as accepted answer. So I tried to kind of make the links match what they were doing in the page, but I, don't I, mean I. Think it's fine, but I think that if we had a designer you know actually design those things they could be better. Yeah.

B

It actually it's better than it's better than I. Don't I say it's better than nothing, because it's a lot better than just nothing, it's better than not being styled like, and the separation like functionality-wise. It separates the functionality out, which is awesome, so great job. Putting this together. The way it is is it's way way more functional than it all. Just being you know the fun just like splattered on the page, so yeah.

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That's kind of what I was going for is I was trying to make it usable, but because I'm, not a designer, like my developer, mind of being like blue buttons or glue box, sometimes doesn't lend itself to looking pretty so we'll see, I think it's a good start and if somebody wants to like redo it later, that's totally one yeah.

B

Good now we have the content and the functionality in place so that you know what you're working with as far as what elements need to be placed and styled yeah.

B

It looks great yeah.

A

And I also love coming back every weekend poking around in the forum and seeing that people are using it. It's fantastic and I also actually really like people asking questions that should be issues because I feel like once.

A

Somebody finds something that is a bug if you're new you're, not sure if it's a bug or if you're doing something wrong right, whereas if you're, an expert, just I've got a lil Niqo report, this problem with the system, but if you're a new person you're like am I doing it wrong because of having a plate like a safe place for people to ask if they're doing it right or not it's great, especially when there's somebody else to say you're doing everything right. You know, here's bullets create an issue in the issue.

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Queue I think will also help get people more comfortable with using the issue queue. So it's a great first first place for people to talk to each other, so I'm so glad we have. This I again want to emphasize how much I appreciate dr. Oman, taking one entire month to just crank on getting all of the last things we need down on the forum.

B

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Am so happy to see people using it I.

B

Think this is really funny this time, I'm just getting my own cakes out of this, so drop as being a user responding back to things. But then there's this simone 960, who will is also a dragon, but it's like Pete's magic dragon.

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Dragons, like the forum too,.

B

All right, sorry, let's get back on track. Where are we with the with the agenda? Okay,.

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So the gender was backed up semester, org and forum, which we've gotten done next is backed up the product, so we did a code freeze on Monday where we got and squeaked in a few last new features, and now we have two weeks of testing backdrop 1.9 and fixing a lot of minor things, and this is a great time right now for designers to get involved and help make it change.

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Because in the last few weeks we aren't going to be doing any heavy development, which means all of our developers are going to be available theoretically to help fix, aesthetic changes or usability improvements or text changes or anything that we think will make the product better without introducing major pieces of functionality. So between now and January, 15th is a great time to find something that might be visually, bothering you and get it fixed.

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So if you have any thoughts or feedback on what needs to get done in backdrop and welcome to three issues in the backdrop, issues issue queue or if you don't have any inspiration, but you want to see what we need help with. There's a tag in issue queue called audience design, which is in the sidebar.

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If you go to any issue in issue queue, and you can see issues that anyone else has created that may be design related, some of those need actual designs and a fairly complicated Natural, Science Festival, the other ones, are just little design problems that people have found that meaning you CSS changes for just quick fixes to various things in.

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That is all we have on the agenda for now. There are no particular issues that we've highlighted as definitely need to get them 14.9. So that would mean that if you are interested in looking at design issues anything you can grab the mark on it's fair game. If you add a pull request, I would recommend that you also add the tag for the next release, which would be one point, eight point two and that way we'll be able to review that polar bust.

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If it doesn't end up on one of those point release milestone, we might miss it and we'll I'll try and keep an eye on that issue. Queue, but there's no guarantee even we'll find everything so I will just encourage people to use the tags. You don't have access to use types you can ask and get some time tips and problems that are automatic and printing machine doesn't automatically our dragon robot 35, but we would definitely love to see.

A

Anything else we want to add, you know I.

B

Don't think some.

A

All right: well, that's our update for today next week, you're there do you have an outreach me, but you might not actually have that many, depending on how crazy things are before release, but the next design meeting, which is in two weeks for definitely new, carry on. As we will see you guys.

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