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From YouTube: Backdrop Design & UX - Feb 13th 202
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A
All
right
today,
so
very
13th.
This
is
our
design
and
utility
meeting
this
week.
Instead
of
running
through
our
list
of
tests,
we
would
like
to
have
accomplished.
We
are
going
to
use
this
session
as
a
brainstorm
on
usability
studies
for
backdrop
and
what
those
might
look
like
and
what
content
we're
gonna
use
for
them.
Tim.
Do
you
want
to
do
an
update?
What
we
just
talked
about
sure.
B
So
we
were
just
we
started
talking
about
this
prior
to
recording
the
meeting
and
Gregory
had
reminded
us
that
there,
the
Drupal
community
has
some
scripts
that
they
used
early
on
in
the
Drupal
8
development
cycle
and,
frankly,
their
jennifer
reminded
history,
some
Drupal
7
scripts,
probably
still
around.
That
might
also
be
this
one
that
we
could,
you
know,
borrow
from
so
I
think
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
and
I
think.
Their
goal,
then,
is
to
well
right
before
we
started
recording
Jen.
B
A
I'm
open
to
either
I
just
thought
it
might
be
harder
to
get
results
for
the
longer
one,
but
if
we
can,
you
know
have
a
in-person
thing
where
we
can
gather
a
bunch
of
people
and
all
do
it
together.
That
might
be
really
valuable,
but
I
was
thinking
if
I'm
doing
it
remotely
smaller
months.
Let's
just
I
mean
it
I
think
it's
a
good
idea.
If
we,
if
we
can
come
up
with
enough
for
an
hour-
and
we
can
put
it
together
in
a
way
that
makes
sense
this
one
script,
use
it
for
books.
C
A
What
I
I've
done
it
a
bunch
of
different
ways
in
the
past?
What
I
did
at
University
of
Minnesota
was
the
best
possible
scenario
is
where
you
have
eye
tracking
software
on
the
computer,
filming
a
person's
face
and
what
you
get
at
recording
up
is
like
the
part
of
the
page,
and
you
can
see
where
they're
looking
to
find
stuff.
A
You
know
speak
out
loud
what
you're
thinking
so
they
say
something
like
I'm
gonna,
look
in
the
navigation
for
a
link
to
whatever
and
you
can
see
their
cursor
go
up
there
and
you
can
see
what
they
were
hovering
on
and
in
those
cases
it's
really
important
to
have
the
moderator
or
the
person's
there
notice.
If
they
stop
talking
to
prompt
them
and
say
what
is
it
you're?
Looking
for
is
there
something
you're
trying
to
find
and
then
hack
them?
A
Oh
right,
okay
and
then
they'll
start
talking
out
loud
again
about
what
they're
trying
to
do.
Then
I
find
that's
actually
pretty
useful
too.
It's
not
quite
as
good
as
being
able
to
see
where
their
eyes
are,
but
you
can
get
a
lot
of
useful
information
out
of
it
and
if
there's
some
problem
with
the
video
recording
taking
notes
would
be
sort
of
a
last
resort,
it's
better
than
nothing
but
I.
Think
having
likes
a
visual
cue
to
go
back
to
later
and
re-watch
is
also
really
valuable
to
see
you
kids,
they're
walking.
A
C
So
I
think
that
it's
pilot
okay.
So
what
have
it
recorded?
Because
when
someone
watches
the
video
it's
different,
people
I
mean
what's
the
video
dating
so
like
see
it
through
different
eyes.
I
tend
to
so,
but
always
put
myself
in
the
eyes
of
a
person
that
has
never
used
Drupal
before
or
they
are
a
beginner.
So
some
of
us
like
to
take
things
for
granted
because
we've
been
using
those
products
for
peseta
a
neutral
item
Patrick
for
so
many
years.
But
it's
not
things
are
not
as
obvious
for
others
and
something
like
we
watching.
B
Don't
think
anybody's
gonna
dispute
that,
whenever
possible,
getting
it
recorded,
is
the
ideal
situation
I.
Think
for
me,
though,
the
question
is,
you
know
if
we
go
to
South,
where
we're
having
people
do
it
on
their
own
I
think
it
might
be
that
asking
people
to
record
it
is
the
the
blocker
right.
If
we're
doing
it
with
them,
I
would
say
we
always
record
it
right.
I
would
always
report
it.
B
That's
not
even
though,
but
if
we
wanted
to
put
some
up
in
the
forum
and
say
do
this
on
your
own
to
me
asking
people
to
record
it.
It's
like
sending
a
big
extra
where
it's
like
does
it
the
other
option
is
just
do
it
yourself
and
tell
us
how
the
experience
went
and
what
you
did?
It's
not
ideal.
It's
like
the
least
optimal
scenario,
but
I
think
it's
the
most
likely
that
somebody
would
do
yes.
B
B
First
of
all,
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
ideas.
So
I
have
like
five
ideas
in
my
head
right
now:
okay,
it
could
happen
and
I'm
personally
I'm
interested
in
writing
a
script
where
I
can
implement
to
study
with
somebody.
I
can
record
it
where
we
can
have
multiple
people
write
for
me,
it's
like
if
we
write
a
good
script.
I
think
that's
the
biggest
part
of
it
right.
I
got
a
guy
already
lined
up
locally
and
I.
B
Think
if
we
don't
come
up
with
a
better
script,
I'm
just
gonna
try
the
university
one
on
the
next
week,
it's
like
once
I
realized.
Oh
I've
got
a
script
ready
like
this.
Now
all
I
got
to
do
is
set
up
the
zoom
room,
even
if
I'm
sitting
next
to
him,
I'm
thinking
we're
just
gonna
set
up
the
zoo.
Do
a
screencast
and
I'll
walk
through
this
with
him,
and
it
will
record
it
and
share
it,
but
there
was
also
this
idea.
B
Where
I
mean
we
could
provide
a
script
for
other
people
to
do,
like
you
say
the
implementing
usability
study
with
somebody
and
then
I
think
we
should
ask
them
to
record
it,
but
the
sort
of
the
least
optimal
scenario
is
we.
We
just
write
us.
It's
like
that.
Community
usability
study
that
I
already
put
up
where
we've
just
trying
to
write
a
short
scenario
and
say:
go
try
this
on
your
own
and
come
back
and
tell
us
how
it
went
for
it
right.
B
C
You
guys
think
that
it's
worth
setting
up
a
do.
You
have
people
under
a
backdrop
box
like
a
UX
study
people
and
then
start
putting
scripts
together
there
and
but
maybe
have
input
from
users
like
it
would
have
separate
markdown
files
for
its
usability,
study
or
separate
issue.
People
can
comment,
and
that
way
we
will
have
a
repo
where
we
store
those
scripts
for
future
reference.
B
C
Yeah
and
maybe
maybe
also
store-
maybe
the
videos
are
better
in
YouTube,
on
YouTube
with
permission
from
the
users
or
something
like
that
for
future
reference,
yeah
yeah,
it
could
be
their
equity
than
being
dedicated
repo
or
you
can
reuse
like.
We
can
use
the
issues
in
the
budget.
We
miss
the
board.
Whatever
is
easier
and
more
seems
like
it's
gonna,
be
more
organized
I.
B
I
am
ready,
I've
already
identified
somebody
and
like
I'm,
ready
next
week
to
sit
down
and
do
something
I
think
what
we
should
do
today
is
talk
about
one,
the.
What
it
is
that
we
think
like
we'd
most
like
we
get
the
most
benefit
from
testing,
because
that's
gonna
shape
a
lot
of
the
other
questions
like
is
it
the
block
system?
Is
it
you
know
like
you
know
it
could
be
views?
B
C
Have
you
know
the
usability
study
scripts
from
the
previous
study
that
was
done,
which
report
you
bring
them
up
on
the
screen
and
just
say
you
screen,
so
we
can
discuss.
Maybe
maybe
we
can
start
off
with
others
and
I'm.
Imagining
imagine
Richard
suggesting
is
like
come
up
with
higher
sort
of
like
level
things
that
we
want
to
do
like
that's.
The
ckeditor
were
adding
content,
creating
content
type
things
like
that
right.
B
E
What
are
the
options,
so
I
I
think
if
we
give
them
a
specific
task,
the
danger
is
that
we
kind
of
inadvertently
miss
important
stuff,
because
we're
explaining
that
this
is
possible
and
then
they
will
focus
now
to
find
it,
whereas
I
I
think
a
lot
of
source
of
frustration
and
one
thing
that
I
I
always
kind
of
look
for,
is
users
sitting
down
and
being
like
and
I
do
this?
Is
this
something
that
software
knows
how
to
do?
E
And
you
know,
because
they
have
to
make
an
eternity
decision
as
to
whether
they're
gonna
commit
the
time
to
figure
out
how
to
do
it
or
they
should
just
give
up.
And-
and
there
are
lots
of
you
know
our
our
software
does
lots
of
powerful
things
and
there's
a
million
things
it
doesn't
do
and
and
that
your
company
outside
you
don't
know
which
is
in
but
pile
and
I
III.
Think
that's
an
important
thing
to
figure
out,
although,
admittedly,
not
necessarily
straightforward
thing
to
figure
out
are.
C
You
so
I
guess
that
you
just
study
a
facilitator.
If,
if
the
user
will
try
to
do
something
that
is
not
possible
in
the
software,
all
is
very
hard,
maybe
or
out
of
topic
for
this
specific
trait.
Maybe
they
can
stop
them
and
just
say
it.
You
know
this
is
not
possible.
Stop
trying
to
do
this,
it
wouldn't
be
it
wouldn't
be
I,
don't
see
anyone
doing
allowing
the
user
to
just
walk
around
with
a
user
interface
trying
to
find
something
that
is
not
possible
in
this
report.
That
plank
look.
B
But
let's
look
at
some
examples
here,
because,
yes,
the
idea
is,
is
to
come
up
with
some
sample
scenarios.
Yes,
we
obviously
want
to
be
as
vague
as
possible
and
not
lead
user
too
much,
but
you
have
to
kind
of
give
them
some
structure
because
we're
just
you
know
this
is
different
than
a
user
who's
like
evaluating
backdrop
on
the
road
we've
invited
somebody
to
come
and
test
the
software
for
us
right
and
if
we
need
to
say
okay
now
have
something
to
do
that's
kind
of
a
really
difficult
request
for
them.
E
Dude,
just
too
broadly,
we
define
it.
I
I
would
suggest
maybe
having
something
where
we
give
them
the
opportunity
to
give
up
like
I.
Don't
think
we
want
like
a
full
script
to
that
says
like
you
can't
get
the
step
three.
Unless
you
get
the
step,
two
I
think
it
wants
to
be
an
option
of
I.
Try
for
three
minutes
and
I
gave
up,
because
because
we
need
to
know
this,
if
somebody
tries
to
do
something
and
doesn't
can't
figure
it
out
absolutely.
B
B
I'd,
like
you
to
create
a
page
so
basically
I
believe
we
had
a
pretty
raw
Drupal
installation,
although
who
might
have
configured
a
few
things
for
them
in
advance,
just
because
we
were
trying
to
get
to
certain
place
and
that,
depending
on
our
scenario,
would
depend
on
whether
or
not
we
need
to
do
that
or
want
to
do
that.
We
may
not
want
to
do
that.
Just
give
them
a
completely
well
backdrop
site,
but
under
some
scenarios
you
don't
want
to
spend,
have
them
spend
a
half
an
hour.
B
Getting
to
the
point
the
thing
you
want
to
test
right
and
hopefully
that's
less
necessary
and
backdrop,
but
this
was
an
example
of
just
creating
an
about
page
I'd
like
to
ask
you
to
create
about
a
page
that
provides
users
with
a
quick
introduction
to
the
conference,
and
here
was
the
overall
thing
that
we
did
was.
We
were
gonna
create
a
very
simple
conference
website.
That
was
the
goal
where.
B
Users,
site
users
could
submit
sessions
for
a
conference.
That
was
like
the
ultimate
goal,
and
so
we
basically
the
create
an
about
page
and
here
we're
testing
a
user's
ability,
with
with
very
little
knowledge
of
TMA,
basically
create
a
page
in
a
menu
item
because
they
have
to
be
able
to
see
them
and
look
to
answer
your
questions
in
having
run
through
these
tests
right.
Our
goal
was
to
give
them
as
little
information
as
possible
to
let
them
try
to
solve
it.
B
To
have
them
talk
about
what
they
were,
why
they
were
doing
things
and
to
tell
us
if
they
got
stuck
and
we
you
know
if
they
went
down
wrong
with,
as
would
let
them
go
for
a
little
while,
but
at
some
point
you'd,
stop
them
and
say:
okay,
you're
not
getting
in
the
right
direction.
Well,
we
direct
you
back
to
this
bucket.
That's
where
you
should
have
wept,
nowproceed
and
then
see
where
they
get
stuck
again.
B
E
I-I-I-I've
serve
an
inspiration
about
us
because
I've
written
a
fair
number
of
tutorials
and
in
my
life
right
and
and
it
strikes
me
that
that
it
wouldn't
be
that
hard,
at
least
from
my
perspective,
it
seems
to
to
repurpose
a
tutorial
into
usability
testing
to
rather
than
say,
all
right,
here's
the
next
step
have
it
be
like
a
question.
What
do
you
think
is
the
next
step
and
then-
and
then
you
know,
reveal
the
answer
with
a
little
question
like
did
you
get
that?
C
And
I
think
that
once
they
call
this,
there's
many
tasks
that
we
say
there
should
be
a
question
general
question
sort
of
like
for
them
to
quickly
repeat
the
steps
and
say:
where
are
the
things
that
you
expected
well,
the
places
that
you
expected
them
to
be
and
if
things
work
the
way
that
look
even
if
they
are
conscious
the
task
would
be.
We
should
ask
them
if
they
would
expect
things
to
work
that
way
or
they
would
expect
something
different
or
if
it
didn't
work
at
all
for
them.
C
Things
like
that,
so
people
thought
of
what
usability
videos
for
Drupal
accountable,
whoever
found
things,
but
some
of
them
so
like
knew
what
they
were
doing
and
they
were
actually
explaining.
Columba,
like
oh
I,
found
this,
but
I
would
expect
it
to
be
there,
but
they
would
make
comments
like
that,
as
they
were
doing
things
which
is
very
useful.
B
B
But
the
next
scenario
was
you
just
created
a
page
now
we
would
like
to
do
all
our
presenters
to
be
able
to
submit
session
proposals.
There
are
50
plus
sessions
that
all
have
common
elements
session
track
present
your
name
co-presenter
description.
These
will
need
to
be
formatted
the
same
every
time,
even
if
other
members
of
your
committee
upload
session
details,
you
want
to
set
up
the
pages
for
the
sessions
in
a
rigid
way
to
help
people
with
the
right
info
in
the
right
place.
B
C
B
So
the
next
such
a
scenario
which
you've
just
created
the
content
type
now
now
we're
introducing
some
terms.
You've
just
created
the
content
type
and
set
up
the
model.
I
would
like
to
ask
you
to
create
a
session
to
see
whether
it
was
you
expected
using
the
contents
of
example
two,
so
this
is
asking
them
to
enter
an
actual
session
into
the
content
type
that
they
just
created
and
see
how
that
the
next?
B
The
next
scenario
was
the
conference.
Organizers
are
hosting
a
presenters
dinner
tonight
they
asked
you
whether
sessions
submissions
can
be
done
from
a
mobile
phone.
I
would
just
like
you
to
test
whether
this
is
possible
by
creating
a
session
proposal
for
the
phone
and
I
think
we
had.
We
had
a
phones
available
for
them
to
test
off.
B
B
Could
you
change
the
text
of
your
previously
created
sessions
and
make
an
X
moment,
so
it
was
something
really
simple
right:
can
you
go
in
and
edit
this
one
letter?
Oh
here
was
the
block,
though
you
want
a
block
on
the
left
side
that
shows
people
who
recently
registered
for
the
conference
and
display
this
on
the
home
page.
Okay.
B
This
might
be
a
case
where
we
had
actually
entered
some
users
already,
because
we
just
didn't
want
to
have
to
test
that
process.
We
told
I'd
have
to
go
back
to,
but
I
think
we
just
told
them.
Some
users
would
register
now
you
want
to
display
that.
Can
you
do
that
and
I
think
the
idea
here
was
not
to
create
a
view,
but
there
is
already.
B
Okay
and
then
there's
some
debriefing
questions,
anybody
can
look
at
this
I
just
want
to
say.
My
experience
was
that
this
this
was
just
a
few,
pretty
simple
things,
but
you
know
it
fills
up
an
hour
right,
so
it
might
seem
like
this
isn't
getting
very
detailed,
but
but
it's
hard
to
get
that
detailed,
especially
I'm
in
one
kind
of
setting,
but
that's
why
we
have
to
decide
like.
Would
these
be
the
things
we
want
to
test
or
like
this
wouldn't
really
get
into
layouts
much
I.
Think.
C
That
assumes
a
little
bit
of
experience
from
on
the
users
ends
obviously
have
used
the
CMS
and
know
that
you
know
this
is
a
thing
that
they
can
do,
because
otherwise
they
would
come
with
a
you
know.
You
know
WordPress
or
HTML
mentality
and
just
add
services
into
a
WYSIWYG.
That's
it
despite
things
as
as
they
were
using,
were
meant
for
something
I.
Think.
E
E
I
thought
I'd
totally
inspiring
like
like
I
look
at
this
I
could
see
you
know
creating
a
tutorial
based
on
this
and
and
it
suddenly
becomes
a
training
resource.
You
know
you
can
you
can
have
it
titled,
you
know.
Would
you
like
to
learn?
You
know
how
to
do
this
and
backdrop,
and
then
you
know
it
could
be
a
nice
self-paced
thing.
There's
a
task.
You'd
figure
it
out.
If
not,
here's
like
the
five
minute
video
showing
the
expert
doing
that
thing.
Okay,
so
part.
B
B
Part
of
having
a
good
usability
study,
I
think
is
one
prepping
that
scenario
making
sure
that
the
site
is
the
right
place
to
start
with,
but
also
in
cases
like
this,
if
you
want
the
user
to
enter
content,
have
the
content
ready
for
them
make.
You
know
that
part
of
the
challenge
alright
and
to
sort
of
think
through
those
things
so
I
mean
I'm
almost
inclined
to
stick
with
this
example,
because
then
we
don't
have
to
like
recreate
content,
but
the
smart
business
scenario
is
good
to
I.
B
C
B
What
I
think
would
be
useful
is
to
talk
about
what
what
did
this
test?
This
tested
the
ability
to
create
a
page
right
and
it
set
up
fields,
the
tested,
the
ability
to
create
a
menu
item,
the
tested,
the
ability
to
place
a
block
right.
Does
this
seem
like
a
good
starting
place
for
us,
or
is
this
missing?
What
do
we
want
to
test
so.
C
I
would
say:
creating
content,
creating
new
continuity,
editing
existing
content
so
I,
because
we
have
an
about
a
space,
it
would
be
easy
and
its
prominent
like
it's
in
the
manual
it
would
be
easy
to
solve.
Like
is
them
to
the
content,
editing
interface
and
say
all
right.
Take
the
about
Us
page
to
tell
people
about
you
and
then
take
them
to
all
right.
If
you,
edit,
with
existing
content,
how
would
you
go
about
creating
new
content
like
a
new
page
on
the
site
and
then,
after
that
would
be
all
right?
C
C
How
would
you
go
about
creating
a
like
a
page
that
allows
you
to
enter
like
products
like
the
content,
type
creation
of
lead
and
then
other
simple
tasks
like
enabling
the
contacts
the
contact
form
on
the
site,
which
is
like
it?
These
are
simple
tasks
that
we
show
up
like
want
people
to.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
people
really
cheesy
for
people
you
get
out
of
natural.
One
thing
store
it.
So
if
I
was
a
Mac,
trope
is
a
product
that
advertises
itself
as
being
useful
to
people
with
small
businesses.
C
So
even
if
they
set
up
an
instance
like
I,
have
a
developer
set
up
an
instance
or
backdrop
on
the
run,
they
should
be
able
to
add
an
event:
spades
puts
on
services
or
products
out
and
set
up
a
contact
form,
which
is
the
simplest
thing,
and
are
we
doing
well
on
that
or
not?
And
maybe
then
we
can
target
more
advanced
users
like
developers
who
set
up
sites
for
their
small
business
owners.
The
customers
return.
Oh,
but
small,
business.
C
Would
we
would
we
want
different
scenarios
like
if
there's
existing
people
like
if
the
person
is
just
a
potential
site
owner?
We
have
that
if
the
person
doing
the
usability
test
is
part
of
an
organization
which
will
be
managing
content
on
their
site,
a
content
editor
in
other
words
and
then
a
person
that
is
a
developer
that
is
so
like
evaluating
solutions,
not
a
developer.
A
site
builder
I
should
say
which
is
value
evaluating
that
solutions.
So
maybe
we
should
have
three
personas
I
guess.
B
Sure
I
mean
I,
I,
think
Gregory
we
can
have
as
many
or
as
few
like
scenarios
as
one
I.
Would
you
know
my
gut
says
that
there's
a
substantial
amount
of
work
and
getting
a
good
scenario
and
I
think
we
set
our
first
goal
to
just
do
and
I
I
think
we
will
get
way
more
feeb
data
from
just
one
simple
Center
than
we
expect
so
like
before
we
get
ambitious
and
start
thinking,
two
or
three
scenarios.
Let's
just
get
one
basic
and.
E
B
C
A
It
might
also
be
good
to
test
the
content
type
creation
process,
because
that's
something
that
we
tried
to
improve
by
adding
all
the
new
vertical
tabs
and
permissions
and
checkbox
on
and
off
settings
and
all
that,
but
we
don't
have
any
feedback
on
how
much
people
appreciate
those
changes
or
not
see.
There
are
two
other
things
that
might
rip
them
up
or
things
that
we
did
that
we
think
are
helping.
A
The
aren't
would
be
good
to
learn
because
those
are
old
systems
that
we've
tried
to
update
and
then
I
think
that
talking
about
you
know
layouts
is
something
that's
a
fairly
complicated
concept,
so
I
think
trying
to
build
this
script.
It
doesn't
give
too
much
away.
Is
gonna
be
really
important,
but
it
would
be
something
I
would
like
to
get
feedback
on,
because
it
is,
you
know,
a
new
user
interface
for
panels
which
we
know
was
not
great
and
so
trying
to
figure
out.
If
we've
gotten
it.
A
You
know
close
enough
to
Wix
right
that
people
can
find
it
intuitive
a
figure
it
out,
and
we
know
there's
some
pain
points
in
it.
So
I
think
maybe
we
should
steer
away
from
like
content
type
override
pages
until
we
get
those
fix,
but
just
some
basic,
like
change
the
layout
on
your
home
page
put
new
content
in
it.
Edit
content,
that's
our
in
it.
You
know
stuff
like
that,
would
be
really
useful
and
maybe
even
build
a
new
layout,
because
that's
a
new
feature
I'd
like
to
get
feedback
on
I.
C
Progressing
to
the
content,
type
creation,
but
I
would
also
like
to
test
the
media
management,
but
we've
added
a
few
pitches,
so
file
management.
It's
it's
a
pain
point
for
the
people
that
I've
seen
the
support
desk
that
we
have
for
government
agencies,
so
people
that
are
building
sites
interpolate
they
having
difficulty
grasping
the
notion
of
file
types
and
how
they,
when
they
use
it
in
hell.
Drupal,
has
a
file
stamp
in
a
media
tab
which
is
separate.
C
C
C
C
A
Was
an
upward
script
for
doing
this
on
Drupal
7
that
everybody
completely
failed,
which
would
be
good
to
reuse
and
I?
Think
it
was
specifically
installing
the
webform
module
like
it
was
something
like
you
want
to
put
a
survey
on
your
website.
It
can't
do
this
currently
see
if
you
can
figure
out
how
to
extend
it
to
do
that
or
something
it
was
great
like
it
didn't
use
the
word
modules
it
didn't
use
whatever
and
people
would
be
like
okay,
I
didn't
know,
we
could
do
that.
A
E
I
I
would
be
dying
to
find
out
with
with
a
great
deal
of
trepidation.
If,
if
people
are
able
to
figure
out,
you
know
adding
a
certain
thing
to
their
site
if
they
achieve
that
by
doing
a
layout
downloading
a
module,
getting
a
theme.
Turning
on
something
creating
a
content
type
like
there's
all
these
things
that
we
do
and
I
I
suspect
just
based
on
you
know,
looking
around
that
that
people
that
haven't
done
this
before
artists
really
have
no
idea,
like
don't
don't
know
where
the
even
starts
yeah.
A
A
E
C
It
asks
you
what
content
type
you
wanna
a
pen,
a
genetical
and
so
on,
and
they
did
the
same
thing
with
files
and
said
from
the
same
place.
Content
add
files
and
they
were
asking
the
person
what
kind
of
file
they
would
like
to
applaud
first,
whereas
what
we
do
is
we
let
them
upload
the
file
and
we
try
our
best
to
detect
what
file
that
detected.
They
have
loaded,
and
then
we
choose
the
file
type
for
them
automatically.
So
would
like
us
to
get
into
that
mentality
more.
C
We
present
options
to
the
user
that
makes
sense
to
developers
in
the
way
that
developers
think
of
what
needs
to
be
saved
in
the
database,
whereas
we
should
adapted
to
what
that
users
expect
like
the
workflow
that
users
expect
so
yeah.
This
is.
This
is
look
it's
time
that
I
find
smoke.
You
know
points
in
the
user
interface
when
we
fix
it
like
I'm,
very
excited
about
that,
because
we
made
life
easier
for
a
lot
of
people
evaluating
the
product.
B
E
I
mean
go
ahead,
look
I
was
just
gonna,
give
it
give
a
little
story.
I
mean
they
the
trick
that
I've
always
talked
about
with
learning
stuff
a
is
that
ninety
percent,
the
effort
is
figure
out.
What
the
question
is
that
you're
asking
and
and
then
once
you
know
what
the
question
is,
then
you
can
find
the
answer.
E
I
mean
I
I,
remember
as
as
a
kid
trying
to
learn
how
to
play
music
and
I'd,
be
in
a
music
store,
I
guess
I,
remember
like
a
specific
thing,
and-
and
this
guy
was
just
playing
this
great
stuff
and
it
wasn't
like
super
fancy,
which
is
very
simple
things.
I
was
like:
how
do
you
do
that
and
he
tried
to
explain
his
like?
Well,
you
could
do
this.
You
do
this,
you
do
this.
You
really
do
anything.
E
You
want
I'm
like
no,
no
I'm,
not
looking
for
freedom,
I'm,
looking
for
constraints,
I'm,
looking
for,
like
which
things
should
I,
try
and
and
I
I
I.
Think
we
get
that
a
lot
right.
You
you
open
up
the
thing
and
suddenly
you
got
a
menu
choice
for
like
a
hundred
different
menu
options.
You
know
which
one
you
click
on.
B
Sure
so
I'd
like
to
process
point
here
running
at
a
time,
so
I
think
we
shouldn't
yeah.
We
should
check
on
what
the
next
steps
are.
I,
think
sort
of
formulating
our
own
script
would
be
good
I'm,
fine,
with
Gregory's
idea
about
making
it
having
sort
of
a
theme
of
a
very
simple
small
business
site
and
starting
to
flesh
that
out,
I'm
inclined
to
not
wait
until
that's
done
and
to
go
ahead
and
like
reuse.
B
This
exact
script
once
or
twice
myself
with,
like
somebody
just
to
see
I,
think
the
experience
of
doing
that
will
inform
the
next
script
that
we
write
and,
and
also
it
might
highlight
things
that
would
be
good
to
test
that
we
went
to
thought
about
and
just
it'll
help
us
write
that
script.
On
the
other
hand,
if
we
get
that
script
written
before,
that
would
be
fine
I
liked
your
idea
about
just
opening
up
but
can't
happen.
I
was
gonna,
suggest
a
Google
Doc,
but
actually
like.
Why
not
doing
it.
A
D
B
We
we
get
a
repo
open
so
so
that
we
can
put
links
there
too.
You
know
so
we
have
one
place
to
go
where
we
can
find
the
link
to
the
Google
Doc.
We're
using
I.
Think
that's
fair.
Let
me
do
some
rough
editing
and
Google
and
then,
but
if
we
have
that
github,
so
is
that
a
new
repo
completely
or
do
we
add
it
into
an
existing
one?
John
I'm
gonna
defer
to
you.
What
do
you
think.
C
I
actually
looked
before
this
meeting,
because
I
wanted
us
to
store
the
things
something
for
future
reference.
I
would
like
us
to
have
a
dedicated,
I
swear.
We
so
like
recursively,
it's
year
or
every
six
months.
We
do
things
ability
to
this
and
we
also
have
played
upload
the
results
there
and
links
to
the
videos
is
the
videos
going
YouTube
or
whatever.
C
B
B
A
B
I
suggest
this
Gregory
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
move
the
do.
You
live
at
the
Drupal
8
U
of
M
study
I'll,
give
them
credit
and
link
to
the
original,
but
move
it
into
a
Google
bot
for
us
and
that'll
be
a
starting
point
and
I
think
we
open
up
a
second
doc,
which
is
our
or
something
like
that,
which
is
our
copy
of
that
with
the
things
we
think
do.
What
about.
B
Anything
else
or
immediate,
short-term
Judy's
and
I
like
I,
say
I'm
inclined
to
maybe
go
ahead.
I've
got
this
guy
kind
of
lined
up
I'd
like
to
just
demo
backdrop
for
him
anyways
and
then
that's
how
I
just
started
and
then
I
go.
You
know,
I'd
he'd
be
a
great
usability
candidate
and
I.
Think
if
I
got
you
and
he's
excited
about
doing
it,
I
asked
him
he's
kind
of
a
a
wordpress
user.
That's
not
a
coder,
but
he's
done
some
WordPress
stuff,
never
looked
at
Drupal
or
backdrop
before
yes,
and
so
I
have
I.
C
Have
another
one,
this
person
who
was
lurking
around
or
killing
he
often
just
post
questions.
Last
week
he
asked
a
couple
of
questions
on
how
to
create
full
width
sections
on
the
thing
on
the
side,
which
is
your
thing
thing,
and
how,
if
I
understand
what
he's
saying
have
I,
don't
even
then
click
on
it
and
open
a
bigger
one,
which
is
like
a
lightbox
thing,
which
is
feature.
This
is
not
in
court.
C
So
he's
a
good
candidate
and
I'm
going
to
crease
he's
from
Chris,
so
I'm
going
back
to
graceful
Easter,
so
I
might
hook
up
the
Phoenix
just
asking
to
do
those
things
and
then
I
have
another
potential
person
which
is
a
colleague
of
mine
and
we
call
it.
A
new
person
in
the
company
weeks
is
part-time
and
part-time
they're
starting
to
do
Excel
design
and
they
as
part
of
their
online
studies.
C
B
Once
we
settle
on
a
script,
then
we
should,
you
know
like
we
could
schedule
one
or
two
of
these
live
where
we
together,
although
if
it's
recorded
I'm,
not
a
hundred
percent
sure,
there's
a
lot
of
value
of
it,
maybe
the
same
experience
you
watch
it
yeah,
the
main
the
value
of
watching
it
together
would
be
that
we
will
actually
watch
it
and
that
we
can
talk
afterwards.
Yeah.