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From YouTube: Working Backdrop Design meeting 3/19
Description
Modules and themes and layouts, oh my!
A
Alright,
we
are
on
air,
it
is
Thursday,
March
19th
and
we're
going
to
do
a
little
working
session
today.
In
this
backdrop,
design
meeting
to
try
and
sort
out
what
we're
doing
about
modules
and
layouts
and
themes
and
how
we're
going
to
build
an
interface
for
people
to
browse
them
and
find
them
on
factor
of
CMS
org,
but
really
quickly,
we'll
just
run
through
our
standard
agenda,
probably
in
less
detail
than
ever
before.
Most
of
you
probably
know
about
Deb
CMS
is
already
short
term.
A
The
audience
for
backdrop
is
existing
Drupal
sites,
developers,
users,
designers,
but
longer
term
we're
trying
to
move
into
a
more
competitive
market
or
trying
to
move
down
market
and
in
order
to
compete
with
the
likes
of
WordPress,
we
need
to
have
easier
designs
made
a
better
designs.
We
need
to
have
easier
user
interfaces.
We
need
to
have
a
lot
of
kind
of
bells
and
whistles
that
the
Drupal
community
has
not
been
historically
good
at.
A
Think
most
of
those
changes
are
up.
There
might
be
one
small
color
change
left,
but
that
should
be
about
it.
So
that's
almost
good
to
go
less
I
know
is
working
on
maybe
mobile
navigation
for
the
site
at
some
point,
maybe
nice
right,
which
is
going
to
make
the
experience
of
using
our
primary
website
much
better.
So
hopefully,
that
will
be
pretty
much
completely
done
here
in
the
next
week
or
so
before.
A
We
have
make
me
next
two
weeks,
but
we
have
this
meeting
again,
which
is
great
we're
going
to
be
moving
into
adding
some
new
features
on
to
that
site
later
in
this
meeting,
but
other
things
we're
working
on.
We
have
our
API
site,
which
is
also
kind
of
mostly
done
at
this
point.
We
need
to
put
a
new
theme
on
it,
which
we're
going
to
take
the
theme
from
our
primary
site.
Now
that's
almost
done
and
drop
that
on
see
what
it
looks
like
over
there
and
then
we'd
love
to
I.
A
You
know
make
sure
that
all
the
things
are
working
on
the
API
seriously
likelihoods
and
developer
documentation
over
there,
which
have
to
make
sure
that
looks
good,
also
backdrop:
the
product,
the
the
tool
itself
has
a
new
admin
theme
style
guide,
which
is
great:
we've
had
a
whole
bunch
of
design
feedback
on
that
we've
got
some
changes
coming
and
of
that
and
then
the
design
theme
itself
is
being
or
the
theme
for
the
design
is
being
implemented.
So
there
are
bunch
of
tickets
about
making
the
backdrop.
A
Look
better,
I
think
what
movie
for
a
critical
mass
of
things
to
get
changed
before
we
start
committing
anyone
to
backdrop
and
the
one
linchpin
right
now
is
just
making
sure
we
get
that
the
master
issue
you
for
our
HTML
elements
done
and
not
until
we
get
the
font
engine
there,
it's
really
hard
to
visualize.
What
all
of
these
other
things
are
going
to
look
like
with
the
right
you
know:
did
they
have
the
lawyer?
A
A
We
want
to
have
a
new
front,
end
theme
and
the
way
that
we're
getting
that
done
is
by
having
somebody
create
one
and
can
trim
and
when
I
started,
contribute
into
core
well,
of
course,
hopefully
have
a
bunch
of
them
be
able
to
compare
and
contrast
and
say,
I'm.
You
know
which
one
do
we
like
44
y
and
then
there
will
be
a
little
revamping
and
fall
to
getting
it,
but
that's
our
process
for
that.
We
also
have
a
bunch
of
user
experience.
A
Tasks
on
github
tagged
with
a
little
square
issue
in
the
square
brackets
in
the
issue,
queue
that
says
you
x
and
so
anytime.
Any
one
encounters
user
experience
problem.
You
can
tag
an
issue
with
you
x
in
the
title
on
or
if
you're
super
interested
in
user
experience.
Wanna
help
us
solve
some
of
these
problems.
You
can
search
the
queue
for
that
tagging
and
find
those
issues
there
too,
and
will
be
sorting
through
those
in
bug
fixed
releases
if
they're,
really
horrible,
but
if
they're
not
really
horrible,
they'll
get
postponed
to
future
releases.
A
So
1.1
should
contain
a
lot
of
user
experience,
improvements
to
all
right
so
on
to
the
fun
stuff.
Today.
What
we're
going
to
be
working
on
is
reviewing
page
tale
tables
and
require
for
the
module
listing
page,
the
module
page,
the
themes
and
layouts
so
I
don't
know.
If
Darius,
we
should
just
turn
it
over
to
you
and
just
kind
of
start.
Talking
about
this
stuff,
yeah.
B
A
A
B
B
B
Okay,
cool
so
I
already
on
the
second
tab:
everybody,
yes
awesome,
so
the
first
column
is
the
primary
pages,
and
the
second
column
is
what
I
interpreted
from
the
original
document
as
secondary
pages
content.
I
think
that's
all
the
same,
whether
or
not
you
have
a
page
table
I
based
this
on
this
document.
B
B
A
B
A
B
B
A
I
think
that's
also
a
feature
like
a
showcase
would
be
here.
It's
a
whole
bunch
of
websites
that
people
have
built
on
backdrop,
CMS
and
so
the
feature
there
would
be
like
at
your
web.
Add
your
website
to
the
showcase
so
just
some
kind
of
like
a
call
to
action
or
something
that
happens
on
that,
and
it
will
of
course
need
a
page
yeah
I
think
this
is
a
call
to
action.
Ok,.
A
B
A
A
D
A
D
A
Think
probably
what
we
should
do
is
just
focus
on
whatever
that's
that.
First,
like
power,
we
can
promise
I'll
this
problem
for
all
of
this
free
open
source
stuff
that
we
have
now
and
then
later
I'd
be
like.
How
do
we
make
it
easy
for
people
to
you
know
transact
in
addition
to
whatever,
because
themeforest
is
probably
going
to
continue
selling
their
themes
on
themeforest,
even
if
they
make
them
for
backdrop.
So
I
think
like
that
problem
to.
D
A
B
A
A
Is
also
mapping
to
how
drupal.org
salsas
problem,
where,
if
you
are
a
vendor,
provide
design
services,
you
might
want
to
list
that
service
on
back
trips
a
mess
at
work.
So
someone
can
say
where
do
I
find
a
designer
for
backdrop
and
they
go
to
back
to
TMS
network
and
they
click
designers
or
whatever
it
is,
and
they
can
find
someone.
So
you
can
find
developers
your
web
hosts
or
anything
that
you
may
need
that's
associated
with
it.
Drupal.Org.
Does
this
pair
really
well
I
feel
like
the
user.
A
A
A
This
is
just
we
went
from
our
initial
IndieGoGo
campaign.
We
promised
people
that
we
would
say
thank
you
to
them
on
our
website,
so
we
add
them,
then,
over
time
we
also
had
other
people
we
wanted
to
thank
for
various
things.
You
might
recognize
any
money
list,
and
so
we
ended
up
adding
this
page
to
just
be
like
we
want
to
have
a
place
where
we
can
say
you
know
these
are
the
people
that
we
really
appreciate
in
our
community.
A
B
Alright,
so
that's
a
much
more
simplified
version
that
I
think
of
a
site,
mountain
yay,
really
alright
cool,
so
on
view,
page
tables
them.
So
I
took
a
look
at
what
you've
done
thus
far
and
I've
also
been
refining
the
page
tables
process.
So
I
sort
of
have
my
own
way
of
doing
it
now
and
I
think
that
I
streamlined
it
and
simplified
it
for
people.
So
I
took
what
you've
entered
in
here
and
I
rejiggered
it
into
this
more
simplified
table
format.
A
B
Okay,
so
now
we
just
have
titled
goals,
tactics,
which
is
a
new
term
that
I
came
up
with,
which
relates
to
content
folks
and
then
user
task,
things
that
you
want
them
to
do,
and
then
just
notes
and
I
did
it
this
way,
because
all
of
your
content
chunks
should
relate
directly
to
what
your
goals
are.
Okay
before
it
was
easy
to
like
lose
sight
of,
what's
going
on
and
just
start
listing
stuff,
because
the
table
was
so
complicated.
B
A
There
used
to
be
this
horrible
string
of
text
at
the
top
of
the
modules
page
on
like
in
Drupal
itself.
That
was
something
like
modules.
Extend
the
functionality
of
your
site,
turn
on
one
to
see
the
addition
of
a
forum
or
something
like
that
and
I
think
that
we
don't
need
to
get
into
a
huge
amount
of
detail
here.
We
might
even
have
a
good
piece
of
copy
on
the
handbook
already
on
the
modules
page
is
just
like
this
word:
module
is
going
to
be
foreign
to
everyone
who
doesn't
already
use
back
Jeff.
A
So,
let's
just
kind
of
say,
like
extend
your
site,
use
a
module.
Okay,
what
is
a
module
module
is
something
that
will
add
functionality
and
it
can
do
that
by
changing
existing
functionality
or
you
do
that
by
adding
something
new
or
can
do
that
by.
You
know,
writing
more
granularity
or
something
that's
already
there
or
whatever
and
I
think
it
would
just
be
good
to
kind
of
have
like
a
a
short
paragraph
that
just
kind
of
says.
A
Don't
think
we
want
a
sub
page
because
it'll
be
like
one
sentence,
but
I
think
it
could
be
in
like
a
more
info
or
like
I.
Don't
know
like
there
is
some
way
if
it
was
cluttering
the
page
that
you
could
have
like
a
question
mark
and
then
like
someone
cover
over
it,
and
it
could
say
like
this-
is
what
module
is
yeah.
B
A
That
would
be
fine
or
we
could
even
just
linked
to
the
handbook
modules
page
and
but
I
think
that
the
point
for
me
was:
I
don't
want
people
to
get
to
the
modules
page,
see
the
word
module.
So
that's
not
what
I
want
and
leave
just
just
something
to
be
like
you're
in
the
right
place,
and
that
doesn't
necessarily
need
to
be
a
paragraph
of
text
that
could
just
be
with
the
way
the
page
is
designed
like
they'll
feel
they've
arrived
through
my
place.
So,
let's,
let's
you
know
we
can
remove.
A
B
A
B
C
A
A
C
C
B
A
This
is
something
that
comes
from
kind
of
your
experience
for
searching
for
module
on
drupal.org.
You
type
in
you
know.
Whatever
keyword
you
want,
and
sometimes
you
get
a
whole
bunch
of
results.
Some
of
them
don't
even
contain
the
key
work
you
search
for
and
you've
got
to
figure
out.
How
do
I
know
which
of
these
results
to
actually
install,
and
this
is
something
that
you
know
short
term.
A
We
might
not
have
as
big
a
problem,
because
we
won't
have
as
many
modules
with
Drupal,
but
if
we're
wanting
this
project
to
be
successful
in
the
long
run,
we
are
going
to
eventually
run
into
this.
So
we
need
to
have
some
way
to
for
someone
to
tell
like
I'm
on
this
page
I
can
see.
There
are
four
things
that
might
be
what
I
want.
How
do
I
evaluate
that
like?
A
How
do
I
decide,
which
one
is
right
for
my
project,
and
there
are
some
of
these
problems
we're
going
to
run
into
where
we
can't
solve
this
problem
right.
You
need
to
try
them
both
and
decide,
but
I
feel
like.
There
are
a
lot
of
issues
where
three
of
those
results
aren't
rel
for
you
anyway,
and
you
need
a
way
to
determine
which
ones
are
and
so
having
something
that
would
have
liked.
A
If
you
look
at
you
know,
WordPress
has
like
a
rating
thing
where
it's
like
you
know,
you
know
this
module
only
has
one
star
doesn't
work
for
anyone
don't
use
it.
You
can
use
the
other
one.
They
need
to
have
some
kind
of
description
that
say
what
they
do.
We
can
pull
that
in
from
github
or
from
the
project
page
or
wherever,
but
something
that
will
help
someone
read
and
understand
what
it
is
they
need
to
have.
Maybe
the
number
of
people
use
in
them
is
going
to
be
useful.
A
B
B
A
A
It's
just
like:
we
need
more
than
what
triple
dot
org
has
currently
and
I'm,
not
sure
that
whatever
it
is,
we're
gonna
figure
out
it's
going
to
be
easy,
but
it
would
be
good
to
have
a
plan
you
know.
So
if
it's
like
okay,
if
we
can
build
what
tripled
org
has
now
right
away
and
then
say
you
know
next,
we
need
to
figure
out
how
to
add
number
of
counts
or
need
to
figure
out
how
to
add
ratings,
or
you
know
something
that
ripple
doesn't
have.
A
B
A
Like
the
idea
of
putting
the
most
recent
installed
modules
there
by
default
might
be
good,
because
then
that
way
you
don't
have
to
click
to
get
to
whatever
the
number
one
installed
kinship
module
is
it's
always
going
to
be.
You
know,
here's
the
10
most
commonly
installed,
and
you
probably
want
one
of
these
in
your
arms
paper,
okay,
before
anyone
searches
and
then
you
know,
give
them
the
search
so
that
they
can
get
more
if
they
want
something
else.
Perfect.
B
D
B
A
A
A
B
A
B
Right,
yeah,
a
nice
big
juicy
search
bar
and
then
underneath
this
I
would
think
like
having
just
a
nice,
simple,
elegant
list
of
modules,
kind
of
like
this,
but
instead
with
filters
on
top
so
personal
that
would
be
I
commonly
downloaded.
The
next
would
be
whatever
and
so
on.
So
you
have
a
set
up
filters
and
then,
when.
A
B
A
A
C
C
C
B
Know
I
was
looking
at
how
wordpress
was
it
and
they
had
a
fancy
picture
for
every
single
plug
in
and
it's
like.
This
is
part
to
establish,
maybe
down
the
road.
Once
we
become
more
popular,
we
can
do
accused
on
the
logo
for
every
project,
but
I
think
at
this
point
in
time
so
simple
display
next
motion.
C
Yeah
in
the
joomla
community,
it's
a
it
I
haven't
looked
at
this
recently,
but
I
remember
there
was
a
phase,
and
maybe
this
is
still
going
on
where
every
single
joomla
plugin
is,
I
would
say,
use
about
every
single
extension.
Every
single
extension
they
had.
Everybody
had
a
3d
rendering
of
a
box
of
software
with,
like
they're
made
up
a
logo
for
it.
How
is
this
like?
Really
a
box
of
software
like
every
single
one
of
them,
looks
like
a
box
piece
of
software,
even
though
thou.
B
A
What
do
you
mean?
Okay,
so
I,
don't
wonder
goal
or
should
I
share
my
screen,
or
should
we
just
talk
about
it
here,
I'm
supposed
to
link
I'm
google.org?
They
have
a
couple
of
different
and
filters
at
the
top,
and
we
can
we
can
do
this
with
buttons
or
selects
or
something
else
too.
We
can.
We
just
need
to
figure
out
whether
we
need
to
organize
them
modules
in
the
same
way,
but
the.
A
Any
module
search
result
page.
They
have
these
additional
filters
for
maintenance
status,
development
status,
module
category,
which
is
where
it
gets
a
little
funny
and
core
compatibility
as
well
as
you
know,
is
it
a
real
project
or
a
sandbox
project,
or
changing
your
solder
I?
Think
for
this.
For
for
some
of
these
things,
like
the
sort
order,
I
think
we've
already
talked
about,
we
can
provide
buttons
for
how
you
want
to
have
them
sorted
on
maintenance
status.
A
I
think,
is
going
to
be
less
important
for
us
right
now,
just
because
everybody
everything
is
new,
but
over
the
long
term
we
are
going
to
have
projects
that
become
a
band.
We
are
going
to
have
people
who
you
know
ported
something
and
never
came
back
to
take
care
of
it
and
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
be
able
to
find
things
that
are
relevant
development
status.
A
I,
don't
know
me
how
much
of
this
you
moved
into
project
module
for
backdrop
like
some
of
these
things,
don't
necessarily
map
exactly
to
backdrop
in,
as
in
Drupal
and
module
categories.
The
0
is
the
thing
that
I
think
we
should
talk
about,
because
that
does
provide
some
utility
in
backdrop.
We
did
some
work
already
on
the
modules
page
to
kind
of
create
a
distinct
set
of
categories
out
of
the
box.
A
So
all
the
modules
are
grouped
into
things
like
these
are
fields,
and
we
have
kind
of
a
similar
mapping
on
this
page
here
as
two
categories
for
modules
and
so
I
think
it
might
be.
It
might
do
us
some.
It
might
help
us
out
if
we
were
able
to
provide
some
categories,
I
mean,
obviously
we
aren't
going
to
have
as
many
as
Drupal
does.
Some
of
these
are
also
wagga,
see
like
there's
a
whole
cck
related
section
and
stuff.
A
B
C
In
particular,
when
I
talked
about
categories
are
really
I
mean
yeah,
tor
compatibility
and
over
there
the
ones
maintenance
status
development
says
yeah
all
of
those
things,
probably
but
not
in
the
immediate
future,
because
we
don't
have
things
like
unmaintained
modules
or
abandoned
modules
or
obsolete
modules
like
we
don't
have
any
of
those
think.
At
this
point
you
know
a
couple
years
down
the
line.
We
probably
will
have
a
lot
of
those,
but
we
don't
at
this
point.
Everything
is
kind
of
just
been
built.
C
B
C
What
it
actually
meant
was
was
categories
in
terms
of
things
like
a
way
that
people
could
browse
to
say,
like
I,
want
to
see
all
ecommerce
modules
I
want
to
see
all
I
don't
know.
Maybe
some
of
these
aren't
particularly
helpful,
so
I'm,
looking
at
some,
the
drop-down
third
module
category
spores
also
and.
A
A
This
is
a
good
home
workers,
I
meant
for
us
to,
and
we
can
maybe
create
an
issue
and
get
feedback
from
from
the
larger
community,
also
and
say
here
all
the
categories
on
drupal.org:
here's
the
subset
that
we're
thinking
about
putting
on
backdrop
for
the
final
module
page
and
initially
we
could
start
with
like
six,
because
we
only
have
50
modules
they're
going
to
roll
up
into
that
many
categories.
But
it
would
be
good
to
have.
A
Like
you
know,
do
we
need
an
you
know
at
what
point
should
we
add
an
e-commerce
category?
If
we
have
basic
cart
module
and
that's
it
like
okay
people
should
know,
I
want
ecommerce
tools,
there's
only
one
may
be
having
a
category,
for
that
is
useful,
I,
don't
know,
but
it
would
be
good
to
have
that
discussion
in
some
place
and
see
see
what
would
you
write
back
and
I'm.
A
B
A
E
Yeah
are
we
gonna
filter
themes
for
like
developer
themes
versus
out
of
the
box
like
site,
builder
themes
or
yeah?
Well,
that's
confusing
to
new
people.
If
you
like
download
this
theme,
that's
supposed
to
be
like
on
minimal
and
there's
nothing
there,
you
don't
know
what
to
do
versus
like
you
download
a
theme
and
you're
like
good
to
go
kind
of
yeah.
A
A
Lot
of
the
things
that
we
consider
the
modules
page
might
translate
to
themes,
but
there's
also
a
bunch
of
things
that
are
really
different.
So
maybe
we
should
talk
about
it
kind
of
holistically
from
top
down
and
then
see
where
it
had
a
close
fit
in
there,
but
I
think
that's
a
good
idea.
I
also
agree,
there's
a
little
weird
for
someone
to
download
a
theme
and
then
turn
it
on.
And
then
it's
like
you
get
nice.
B
Cool
thing
goals
explain
what
a
theme
is:
yeah
could
just
be
a
simple
sentence:
sales
before
enable
users
to
search
for
themes.
Of
course,
a
lot
users
to
browse
recently
added
themes
and
then
linked
to
documentation
on
creating
custom
themes.
All
sounds
good
to
me,
the
tactics.
What
is
the
theme
so
just
like
before
that
was
going
to
be
like
a
an
info
chunk,
hover
state
or
whatever
else,
yeah.
A
A
C
And
I
think
this
is
what
enzyme
o
saying
about
filtering
base
teams
vs,
like
you,
know,
actual
themes
that
are
intended
to
be
used
because
it
was
in
the
triple
world.
The
most
popular
themes
are
all
base
things
which
is
pretty
much
not
actually
helpful
to
people
that
are
like
I
want
a
completed.
You
know,
site,
look.
A
So
maybe
we
just
have,
as
part
of
the
theme
note,
have
like
a
check
box
or
something
that
says
this
is
a
base
theme
or
doesn't
contain
any
styles
or
something
I.
Don't
even
know
how
you
would
word
that,
because
everything
could
be
a
base
team
like
I've
sub-theme
lots
of
stuff,
but
but
there
are
definitely
ones
that
don't
do
anything
without
a
something
yeah.
A
A
Then
I
think
we
wanted
to
do
like
most
important
most
installed
for
the
Sun
on
the
theme
like
default
listing,
we
would
just
need
to
filter
those
out,
maybe
not
I
mean
I,
don't
know
what
what
they
use.
Cases
for
people
are
arriving
at
this
page
are
most
people
on
this
page.
Looking
for
a
scaffolding
theme.
C
A
Yeah
I
mean,
I
think
I
would
prefer
that
we
cater
to
the
kind
of
lowest
kind
of
common
denominator
and
and
say
if
you're,
a
developer
and
you're.
Looking
for
a
scaffolding
theme,
you
probably
know
what
you're
doing
you
can
click
a
button
that
says
show
me
escapa,
lengthy
and
if
you're
new
to
the
site-
and
you
don't
understand
themes
and
you
don't
know
what
a
scaffolding
theme
is,
we
shouldn't
even
make
you
think
about
it.
You
should
just
show
you
what
you
probably
want
so.
C
Yeah,
although
just
knowing
end
user
behavior,
if
we
give
users
an
option
to
say
whether
or
not
their
theme
is
scaffolding
or
not,
if
they're
not
in
the
default
listing
of
themes,
save
somebody,
porches,
n
or
even
radix,
as
radix,
is
kind
of
a
scaffolding
theme,
because
it's
not
the
images
bootstrap,
they
might
just
change
their
categorization
of
their
theme
just
so.
They
show
up
in
the
general
list,
instead
of
being
in
the
scaffolding
list.
If
it's
considered,
I
think.
C
B
A
B
A
A
Bouquet,
from
okay,
from
the
experience
of
someone
who
doesn't
know
backdrop,
you
want
to
install
a
theme
on
your
site.
You
go
to
the
backdrop
website.
You
click
theme,
nothing
you
see
on
that
page
is
what
you
want.
That's
a
bad
first
time
experience
and
I
think
the
first
time
experience
is
far
more
important
than
me.
A
B
A
B
E
C
A
B
B
A
Solve
this
that
says
most
popular,
if
you
care
about
you
want
to
know,
what's
the
top
10,
what
I'm
saying
is.
We
should
not
include
that
in
the
default
list,
like
the
list
that
appears
by
default
when
you
land
on
the
themes,
page
I'm,
finding
the
bottom,
it
says
most
popular
and
click
most
popular
includes
em
I'm.
Fine.
If
you
have
a
list
that
says
like
show,
scape
and
came
to
you
like
the
show
sex
everything's,
it
shows
every
day
so
Frank,
but
I
want
the
thick
to
10
that
show
up
on
that
page.
A
D
D
D
D
A
I
just
I:
we
need
to
not
have
when
someone
lands
on
that
page.
Have
all
of
the
theme
be
not
for
you
if
it's
your
first
time
using
backdrop
and
I,
don't
care
how
we
are
like
what
that
search.
If
it
was
more
at
more
than
column
or
it's
a
different
search
or
whatever
it
is,
we
just
need
to
not
be
because
that's
the
world
we're
in
interval
and
its
really
harmful
to
the
health
of
the
friend
community
interval
boy
way,
what's
wrong
with
featured
theme.
B
A
Think
there's
also
some
contention
like
in
in
the
open
source
world
for
like
one
person
to
be
like
choosing
somebody
else's
code.
I
think
is
weird,
so
I
feels
like
like,
if
there's
a
way
that
we
can
calculate
that
it
would
be
much
better
than
if
somebody
went
and
said
this
is
featured
this
once
featured
this
one's
feet,
this
one's
not
future
like
I'm
lightly.
Remove
the
like
personal.