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From YouTube: Backdrop Design + UX March 12th 2020
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A
Yeah
we're
live
today
is
Thursday
February,
sorry,
March,
12th,
we'll
go
back
in
time
there
yeah
yesterday
they
announced
then
10
was
cancelled.
Consul
conferences
are
canceling
all
over
the
place.
For
those
of
you
watching
a
live
show
we're
doing
a
little
chit
chat
about
events
before
the
stream
started
to
try
and
figure
out
what
we
were
gonna
do
about
anything
in
the
future
and
the
statuses
by
year.
A
So
yeah
and
10
was
the
first
conference
that
backdrop
had
officially
sponsored,
which
makes
me
a
little
sad.
It's
the
been
canceled,
but
they
are
trying
to
accommodate
sponsors
so
trying
to
carry
forward
registrations
and
sponsorships
next
year,
so
I
think
they're
you're
doing
a
pretty
good
job
about
trying
to
appease
everybody,
keep
everybody
healthy
at
the
same
time.
Good.
A
B
Let's
it
makes
on
basically
I
am
proposing
that
we
have
some
out-of-the-box
looks
for
for
backdrop,
a
little
reminiscent
of
like
like
what
were
co-stars,
what
Squarespace
does
what
which
does
where,
where
somebody
that
just
doesn't
even
think
for
a
moment
to
bid
any
idea
about
aesthetics
and-
and
you
know,
can't
spell
CSS,
it's
just
looking
to
be
like
okay,
I'm
gonna
write
some
things
and
you
know
button
click
between
three
three
looks
with
with
zero
customization
and
I
I
think
we
should
split
that
I
think
we
should
make
it
possible
to
launch
a
backdrop
site,
even
if
you
know
nothing
at
all
about
CSS
or
anything
like
that.
B
A
I
totally
agree:
I
would
love
it
if
backed-up
were
more
appealing
to
people
who
didn't
have
to
write
their
own
custom
theme.
I
have
an
idea
about
that,
like
we
have
this
built-in
theme
selection
tool,
like
our
module
selection
tool.
If
we
had
some
way
to
like
feature
three
games
there,
where
we
could
pick
like
from
contribu,
know
we're
tested
and
have
color
support,
and
we
work
with
whatever.
That
might
be
a
really
good
way
to
let
people
choose
without
actually
having
to
put
those
themes
in
court,
because
the
selection
tool
is
there.
A
We
don't
necessarily
to
support
them
in
core,
but
we
can
say
we
know
this
thing
is
good
and
we
can
recommend
it.
So
I
think
we
can
do
that
in
the
same
way
we
do
promoted
modules,
which
is
something
Gregory's
been
pushing
for
for
a
while.
We
do
have
promoted
themes
with
themes
that
we
know
have
that
kind
of
support.
I
do
think,
though,
to
get
that
seems
to
that
point.
A
Sites
for
make
sure,
like
all
of
the
core
layouts,
are
supported
and
make
sure
that
our
new
layout
template
builder
tool
looks
nice
when
you
just
add
rows
and
columns
and
weird
places
with
the
theme,
but
I
would
love
to
work
on
something
I
think
it's
a
fantastic
idea
for
an
initiative
and
I'd
love
to
see
more
activity,
around
themes
and
design
in
general,
I.
Think.
If
we
also
chose
three
themes,
we
might
be
able
to
get
more
designer
input
on.
A
B
Easy
challenges
you
know:
if,
if
you,
if
you
tell
somebody
you
know,
can
you
give
us
your
best
work
than
everybody
gets
like
impostor
syndrome?
It's
like
well,
maybe
my
best
Burke's,
not
good,
we're
rich.
You
show
them
like.
Can
you
do
any
better
than
this?
You
know
they'll,
be
people
like
my
sleep.
Are
you
kidding,
so
you
know
clarify
me.
Objective
I
think
would
get
his
long
way
so.
C
I
I
agree
was
kind
of
everything.
That's
been
said:
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
that
these
things
need
to
be
in
core,
but
they're
they
should
be
easily
available
and
like
identifiable
and
tested.
That's
what
an
initiative
would
do
is
that
would
terrify
them
if
it
were
looking
at
this
issue
is,
it
would
say,
okay
inventory,
what
we
have
you
know,
what's
close
to
maybe
being
ready,
what
needs
to
be
done
to
get
it
ready
and
figure
out
a
better
way
to
test
it
and
promote
it
so
and
I
and
I
had.
C
B
So,
just
just
in
case
it
gets
washed
out
later.
I
did
there's
like
there's
like
a
related
thing:
I'm,
not
I,
don't
think
it's
the
same
thing
but
I
think
it
ties
in
it
in
terms
of
there's.
You
know
commercial
themed
shops
in
a
big
way
forward
for
us
and
you
know
smaller
weight,
but
still
existing
for
Drupal
and
I.
Don't
know
anything
about
those
I
mean,
but
that
seems
like
an
ecosystem
that
did
it's
worth
encouraging.
A
Done
yeah,
I,
totally
agree.
I
know,
I
tend
to
use
a
lot
of
themes
from
like
ThemeForest
I,
usually
take
the
like
standard,
HTML
themes
and
then
adopt
them
for
a
backdrop,
but
when
I
first
started
doing
that
I
reached
out
to
the
in
force
and
was
like
hey
I
notice,
you
have
a
like
triple
option
and
a
wordpress
option.
A
You
know
what
what
makes
it
where
at
what
point
do
you
feel
compelled
to
add
a
new
CMS
and
for
them
it
was
market
chair
it's
like
if
we
have
enough
demand
for
backdrop,
we'll
put
it
in
there,
but
they
they
don't
have
an
option
for
Joomla.
What
I
thought
was
interesting,
so
like
Joomla,
theoretically,
has
more
market
share,
hurt
and
Drupal,
but
people
weren't
asking
for
Joomla
themes.
People
were
asking
for
Drupal
themes,
so
I
think
it's
more
about
like
what
their
customers
asked
for,
rather
than
like
actual,
like
adoption,
wise,
so
I.
A
Think
in
that
sense,
like
we
really
just
need
time
like
I.
Imagine
the
future
of
Drupal.
There
will
be
fewer
requests
for
that
because
sometimes
people
are
gonna
be
using
Drupal
and
the
future
are
gonna.
Want
custom
themes
and
backdrops,
probably
gonna
grow,
and
so
we're
gonna
be
somewhere
in
the
middle
there,
but
it'll
take
time
before
we
catch
up
so
I'm
doing
my
part
every
now
and
then
I'm
like
hey
so
I'm
backtrack,
just
letting
you
know
just
have
a
little
blip
on
the
radar
like
we're
still
heartbeat
here.
B
B
B
B
A
C
A
From
places
that
isn't
the
public,
github
repository
and
sort
of
like
a
wordpress
style
store,
or
we
also
talked
about
like
putting
a
little
dollar
sign
on
the
bottom
of
area.
Like
modules
page,
we
could
do
the
same
thing
with
your
themes.
Page,
that's
like
consider
making
a
donation
of
X
dollars
and
then
figuring
out
how
to
like
actually
pass
that
through
to
the
people
whose
code
you're
using
handling
of
money
gets
a
little
complicated,
especially
it's
like
we're.
A
Nonprofit
and
there's
fees
associated
with
all
these
transactions
and
we'd
have
to
run
them
all
through
that
stuff
for
freedom,
Conservancy,
but
I.
Think,
like
the
conversation,
is
important
figuring
out
how
to
support
these
people
is
important,
regardless
of
what
our
actual
end
result
is.
Whether
we
have.
F
F
I
have
a
few
thoughts
in
some
reservations
from
that
check.
I've
expressed
in
it
was
a
rich
person
in
the
past.
So
I
would
like
to
be
careful
I'm,
a
person
that
that
let
me
rephrase
that
I
personally
believe
that
money
is
necessary
ego.
It
makes
the
world
go
round,
but
what
scares
means
that
money
comes
into
open
source,
so
I'm
not
saying
that
it
shouldn't
happen,
but
we
should
be
trading
very
carefully.
I
don't
want
us.
We
already
have
a
project
browser
and
I.
Don't
want
that
to
become
an
app
store.
F
I
think
that
there
is
a
very
thin
line
between
incentivizing
people
to
contribute
by
donating
money
and
the
point
that
they
stop
contributing
unless
they
receive
money
yeah.
So
I
would
like
us
to
do
not
reach
the
point
where
we
have
community
members
when
they
have
received
money
in
the
past
thing.
Fix
of
a
bag
would
improve
something
and
then
there's
issues
lingering
in
the
queue
because
they
got
used
to
say
I
think
I
can
wait
a
little
bit.
Someone
would
get
upset
that
will
give
me
one.
So
so
it's
a
little
bit.
F
We
need
to
be
a
bit
careful
I'm
a
bit
skeptical
about
it,
I'm,
not
saying
that
it's
it's
bad
to
have
things
like
ThemeForest,
it's
a
very
useful
thing
and
I.
Remember
that
huge
and
said
multiple
times,
I
think
what
you
do
for
your
customers.
Is
you
purchase
a
team
even
if
it's
for
WordPress,
then
you
just
use
it
as
a
template
to
serve
like
place.
Your
a
batch
of
control,
things
sort
of
that
and
I
find
that
that
very
noble,
very,
very,
very
smart
as
well.
F
The
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
say
is
now
that
Luke
has
mentioned
this.
So
lucky
is
that
attaining
last
week
I
mentioned
the
Ossama
drupal.org
issue
related
to
the
color
module,
and
they
were
at
some
point
someone.
It
was
a
long
thread
and
someone
said
I
think
having
a
live
Pig.
You
is
a
huge
earscope
and
that
adds
me
to
comment
and
say:
hey
look.
We
have
a
live
preview
for
our
things
in
here
now
it
looks
for
watching
what
but
is
worth
it.
Maybe
you
want
to
consider
doing
that
FYI.
F
It
has
been
a
quick
demo
here.
You
can
test
it,
but
we
had
it
for
years.
My
the
question
where
I'm
bringing
the
written
one
when
is
not
now
is
that
we
are
in
a
better
place
than
couple,
because
we
already
have
the
project
browser,
so
people
can
sort
of
like
get.
We
should
improve
on
that
so
that
people
get
a
better
idea
of
things.
But
what
has
got
me
thinking
now
is
that,
could
it
be
possible
the
same
way
that
we
have
a
live
preview
for
the
colors?
You
have
a
live
feed
selected
game.
F
It
will
take
a
lot
more
because
it
needs
to
download
the
theme
and
have
it
on
the
thing
that
I
have
tested,
that
on
more
personal
thing
and
year
and
a
half
ago,
yeah
and
that's
how
it
works
like
they
pick
the
theme
and
the
thing
almost
instantly
just
so
like
they
can
actually
see
the
changes.
So
I
don't
know
what
it
would
take
us
to
two
beats
that
point
but
yeah.
So
these
are
my
two
thoughts,
one
be
careful
when
it
comes
to
money
and
two,
maybe
so.
E
E
F
And
then
we
are
talking
with
theme
that
preview
equals
something
at
the
end,
so
they
can
browse
the
decide
if
that
team
and
see
it
yeah
I'm
sure
that
we
can
do
that.
The
thing
is
that
the
changes
required
for
polished
schemes
or
for
most
fuller
set
is
done
any
more
thing
like
it's.
It's
a
few
sets
of
colors
that
need
to
be
applied,
whereas
the
theme
itself
needs
to
be
downloaded.
It's
like
an
some
big
future
thing
needs
to
be
there
and
it
extracted.
So
it's
a
little
bit
more
I.
A
Think
it's
not!
That
I
mean
like
so
with
modules.
The
module
installer
does
two
separate.
It's
like
first,
do
you
want
to
download
it?
Yes,
second,
do
you
want
to
enable
it?
Yes,
we
could
do
the
preview,
stop.
Look
if
you're
like
download
this
theme.
Yes,
then
we
can
add
a
preview
button,
so
you
all
ready
to
go
out
the
code,
and
then
we
could
do
that.
Like
show
the
theme,
that's
not
enabled
trick
that
we
have
already
think
it's
definitely
possible
but
take
some
work
because
we're
not
so
to
do
it
now,
but
yeah.
F
So
when
it
comes
to
country,
but
at
least
people
can
install
them
and
see
what
it
looks
like
in
the
tumble
Denman's,
something
that
in
Drupal
is
much
harder
now
aspect:
they've
switched
simple
destiny,
fun
boat
as
well,
but
it
has
a
lot
of
issues
and
it
doesn't
work
as
good
as
our
solutions
for
one
doesn't
launch
as
far
as
fast
as
well
either
but
yeah,
it's
a
good.
It's
a
good
discussion
to
be
had
yeah.
A
I,
like
I,
like
the
on-site
preview,
more
than
that
I
like
that
I
mean
testing
models
and
stuff
there's
only
so
far
you
can
go
if
it's
not
your
data,
especially
with
a
theme
like
trying
to
figure
out
like
is
my
site.
Gonna,
look
good,
and
this
really
need
to
see
your
site
in
it
like
seeing
links.
The
site
will
give
you
like
a
general
idea,
but
it's
not
the
same
as
trying
it
on.
G
A
F
The
other
thing
is
that
so
a
lot
of
these
ideas
coming
from
common
problems
that
are
coming
from
government
agencies
is
that
because
I,
the
company
that
I
work
for
supports
a
government
in
distribution
and
Drupal,
but
our
target
is
small
business
owners
like
part
of
major
small
business
owners,
more
site
owners
freelancers.
So
my
idea
of
all
that
is
that
usually
you
you
sit
down
with
your
customer
and
you
want
to
present
the
features
like
what
they
can
do
and
what
what
would
be
a
really
useful
tool
for
a
person
working.
F
This
batch
job
would
be
that
they
could
sit
down
with
a
customer
and
in
a
few
seconds,
just
install
a
theme
and
say
hey.
This
is
what
it
would
look
like
like
and
then
play
with
the
colors
and
say
hey.
This
is
how
easy
to
change
it.
So
so,
then,
the
job
that
the
digital
agency
or
the
freelancer
would
have
to
do
is
tweak
it
to
make
sure
that
it
works
with
all
the
aspects
of
the
site
and
work
on
the
on
the
side,
building
side
of
things
and
that's
it.
F
So
I
think
that
this
would
be
available
to
and
and
to
that
end,
I
think
that
eyeballs,
like
the
time
book
demos
are
being
helped.
But
if
you're
trying
to
convince
a
customer-
and
they
say
all
right-
show
me
what
I
can
do
even
our
theme,
including
a
theme
or
whatever
functionality,
I
think
that
helps
pinning
a
demo
without
needing
an
infrastructure
in
six
seconds.
But
that's
that's
awesome.
E
E
F
A
F
E
F
E
F
E
F
F
A
F
I
posted
a
comment
in
the
color
mg
for
new
generation
things,
so
the
way
that
I
understand
it.
How
I
read
this
intro
for
the
dog
is
that
it
reads
a
llamó
file
with
settings
and
then
it
automatically
builds
the
form,
or
that
was
something
like
that
and
there's
a
five-minute
video
as
well
displaying
showing
that
that
functionality.
Now
it
happens
how
it
works
that.
F
So
it's
like.
It's
really
awesome
in
the
things
like
the
moment
that
we
have
that
those
settings,
the
tab,
that
the
vertical
sorry,
the
horizontal
tab
that
generates
the
phone
automatically
gets,
becomes
available
and
the
the
thing
settings
they
use
the
excuse.
But
the
thing
settings
that
for
settings
are
populated
automatically
based
on
that
llamó
thing.
F
E
Look
I
went
and
read
through
the
module
and
what
it
does
is
after
when
you
save
it,
it
creates
like
a
config
file
that
is,
has
your
settings
and
then
on
every
page
load.
What
it
does
is.
It
builds
a
new
CSS
file
that
has
your
custom,
CSS
properties
set
and
just
inserts
that
into
your
page
and
then
your
theme
just
uses
your
custom
CSS
variables.
C
C
Couple
of
quick
thoughts,
one
of
which
this
is
all
great
having
a
15
previewer,
though,
isn't
that
helpful?
We
don't
have
some
good
teams
to
preview.
On
the
other
hand,
an
easy
ability
to
preview
them
might
stimulate
development,
so
it's
hard
to
say,
but
the
question
I
think
the
question
for
right
now.
It's
like
where
this
feeds
some
priorities
and
I,
actually
think
it's
pretty
high.
C
Actually,
the
more
we
talk
about
it,
the
more
I
kind
of
think
that
I
would
put
this
in
my
top
three
distilling
with
the
theme
issue,
because
I
still
believe
a
lot
of
people.
Come
they
install
backdrop.
You
know
they
are
that
sort
of
site,
builder
or
end-user
type,
and
they
just
can't.
You
know
there
aren't
the
themes
available
right
now
and
I
think
it's
a
an
adoption
blocker
so
but
I'm
curious.
C
B
B
I
mean
the
thing
I
really
wanted
to
try
to
do.
It
was
was
to
make
a
low
scope
option
the
things
we
can
do,
but
but
the
MVP
for
this
is
like
a
one
hour
task
of
doing
it
in
a
readme
or
something
right
like
just
just
something
so
that
to
the
beginning,
people
have
some
place
to
start
and
and
don't
end
up.
You
know
tossed
out
onto
the
oceans
of
possibility.
If
it's
like
here
are
you
doing
just
you
know,
choose
a
B
or
C.
A
That's
a
great
point:
I
think
we
could
definitely
come
up
with
a
low
scope
version
of
this
I
read.
Maybe
I
was
a
good
idea.
The
next
step
up
would
be
like
hard
coding.
Those
three
themes
like
freaking
drippings
and
say
like
if
these
things
are
available,
I
thought
for
the
first,
the
top
of
the
list.
I
think
that
that
would
be
a
perfect
start
and
then
figuring
out
how
to
do
a
live.
Preview
would
be
the
next
step
and
then
yeah
just
think
you're
right,
there's
a
lot
of
like
low-hanging.
B
F
Other
things
may
not
require
coding
even
like
yes,
we
need
some
some
features
to
facilitate
better
sort
of
like
tools
for
the
people
that
will
build.
It.
I
agree
with
theme
that
we
need
more
themes
in
order
to
be
have
a
pool
of
things
so
that
people
can
test.
So
one
of
the
tests
might
not
be
even
writing
code.
We
must
be,
might
be
a
evangelizing
so
that
people
start
building
or
sharing
the
things
that
could
be
a
low-hanging
fruit
yeah.
This
is
a
great
site.
F
F
C
C
That
that
MVP-
and
that
might
be
the
precursor
to
an
initiative
right,
is
that
somebody
just
sit
down
and
do
that
work.
I
mean
I
did
some
of
this
once
before,
and
that
like
I,
created
a
database
for
a
spreadsheet
that
listed
all
of
the
themes.
The
concrete
beam
was
available
at
the
time
that
was
six
months
ago
and
like
what
the
status
of
each
one
was,
whether
it
had
color
module
support
that
documents
still
available.
C
C
Whether
or
not
this
gets
to
be
picked
as
an
initiative,
there
aren't
low
hanging
fruit
things
that
individuals
can
do
and
you
could
advocate
for
it
right.
Maybe
that's
here
but
take
pick
pick
a
particular
sub
piece
of
this,
but,
on
the
other
hand,
I
think
actually
making
anything
should
it
might
be
worth
it.
Yes,.
F
So,
there's
a
satellite
the
initiatives
that
feed
into
that
place,
there's
already
some
things
that
have
been
so
like
request
for
an
initiative
that
could
be
one
of
the
pieces
of
a
puzzle
and
here's
my
thought
on
that.
It's
all
good,
and
now
that
we
decided
that
and
I
said
we
are
at
the
made
it
much
better
price
than
Drupal,
because
we
have
some
facilities.
That
would
make
that
easier.
F
But
when
actually
said
is
for
people
that
are
very
knowledgeable
and
what
we
can
do
is
one
thing
that
can
I
need
to
do
so
like
for
Janet's
Caroline
food
things
where
people
expect
to
find
them.
So
so
we
need
to
serve
like
put
the
dots
together
on
a
trail.
So,
but
you
need
to
figure
out
what
the
trail
the
journey
is.
Someone
opens
the
theme
page
they're,
pure
in
spades.
We
need
to
have
a
link
that
hey.
Do
you
want
to
install
more
modules?
I
know
that
we
have
a
tab
there.
F
Things
we
have
discussed
about.
The
idea
of
promoted
modules
may
be
wonderful,
more
things
like
have
some
things
at
the
top
of
the
list.
I,
don't
know
how
that
would
work,
and
this
this
is
not
initially
that
work.
It
might
be
user
interface
mock-ups.
So
you
can
work
on
that.
If
you
can
think
of
better
ways
to
lead
people
to
the
interface
where
they
choose
and
preview
things
then
not
be
awesome.
Maybe
then
we
can
start
off
with
that.
F
A
F
To
how
to
do
that,
yeah
or
maybe
a
blog
post,
where
hey
we're
thinking
to
do
that
thing
about
releasing
things?
What
does
the
community
or
it
could
be
a
forum
post,
right
or
or
a
combination
of
a
blog
post,
asking
people
to
chime
in
on
a
forum
subject
which
says:
how
do
you
feel
about
the
idea
of
open
sourcing,
the
things
that
you've
already
created.
B
Is
is
a
backup
site
and
I
think
it's
using
basis.
Look
it's
using
like
an
out-of-the-box
theme
because
I'm
in
substance,
the
character
day,
I
mean
I,
I,
know
CSS
or
taught
CSS
classes,
but
like
I
I,
don't
have
my
own
sense
of
aesthetic,
so
so
anytime,
like
I,
can
I
can
change
anything
I,
just
don't
know
what
to
change
and
and
so
so
I
really
want
to,
and
then
then,
if
I
see
something
that
I
want
to
change,
I
can
do
it.
D
C
Would
think
either/or
and
like
the
lower
barrier
would
be
to
just
add
it
all
to
the
thread.
I
think
actually.
Blogged
coach,
of
course,
would
be
slightly
better,
but
also
slightly
more
work,
so
maybe
start
by
just
getting
it
into
the
thread
and
then
like.
If
you've
got
the
energy,
a
blog
post,
I
think
would
also
be
a
good
nice
summary.
B
C
A
A
A
A
F
A
A
Where
we're
leaving
it
now,
as
opposed
to
where
it
was
like
four
weeks
ago
or
whatever,
when
we
started
having
another
50
comments
and
put
some
some
links
like
until
ex
comment,
this
is
where
we,
so
people
can
start
reading
there,
but
yeah
I
was
thinking
like
if
we
could
do
something
and
close
this
issue
and
then
we'd
have
those
other
two.
That
would
be
enough.
We
don't
do
anything
really
positive.
A
F
I,
usually
usually
when
she
gets
closed
either
fixed
or
not
I
out
of
habit
go
back
because
people
also
mention
other
issues
or
or
tasks,
not
just
in
words
that
we
should
follow
up
to
be
base,
so
I
usually
create
tickets
to
that.
If
they
have
not
been
done,
but
I'm
afraid
that
if
I'm
not
there
to
do
it,
maybe
no
one
will,
but
but
yes,
they
do
have
issues
around,
so
maybe
we
can
pause
it
and
then
one
of
those
ones,
those
Peaks.
F
So
we
someone
remembers
this
issue
and
come
back
to
it
and
says
hey.
We
can
do
this
now
or
something
okay
yeah
or
we
can
summarize
this
thing.
What
the
decision
was
like
create
a
new
issue
and
say
this
started
off
there.
The
discussion
is
there,
but
the
decision
has
been
made
to
first
address
these
two
and
then
combine
them
in
order
to
solve
like
address
this.
One
here,
I
would.
A
Do
that
close?
This
is
your
another
one.
It's
like
the
thing
we
didn't
do
like
if
the
thing
is
like
the
thing
to
top
the
page
and
they've
just
the
bottom.
Thank
you.
Then.
Let's
have
another
discussion,
that's
the
top,
whatever
well
yeah,
let's
I'd
like
to
like
just
you
just
get
some
progress,
somehow
so
I
just
one
for
another
or.
A
Okay:
let's
go
ahead
and
wrap
up
this
meeting.
You
know
anything,
oh
wait.
Well,
one
thing
I
really
wanted
to
do
is
do
introductions
which
I
totally
forgot
beginning.
So
maybe
now
that
we're
ending
the
meeting
and
we'll
just
say
what
their
name
is
and
where
they're
from
and
then
we
can
wrap
up
and
start
the
next
meeting,
so
I'll
go
first.