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A
All
right
we're
on
air
today
is
Thursday
March
26
and
instead
of
going
through
our
normal
list
of
weekly
issues,
we
have
something
more
exciting
to
talk
about
this
week,
but
before
we
get
there,
let's
have
everybody,
do
a
quick
introduction
and
say
what
your
name
is
and
something
fun
you
might
want
to
share
with
us
this
week
in
30
seconds
or
less
so
Luke.
How
about
we
start
with
you.
A
D
A
Were
talking
about
using
the
views
display
the
way
the
content
is
displayed,
the
way
the
fields
are
displayed?
Oh
these
things
have
a
little
teeny,
tiny
bits
that
if
someone
changed
like
the
way
a
date
was
rendered,
it
might
break
the
styling
of
the
way
the
date
was
printed
on
the
page
and
so
Luke
was
about
to
tell
us
the
biggest
problem
with
themes
in
Drupal
or
a
problem
we've
inherited.
Oh.
B
B
Did
my
intro
come
out
or
was
I
muted,
oh
yeah,
that
it
was
on
then
right
all
right
anyway,
ten
years
ago,
when
when
I
first
got
into
Drupal,
I
was,
and
what
drew
me
to
Drupal
was
how
plug-and-play
I
was
able
to
do
lots
of
common
web
things.
You
know
particularly
set
up
the
information
architecture.
The
way
I
could
design
content
types
and
what
feels
together
and
put
taxonomy
pieces
together
and
and
particularly
views
and
panels,
were
like
Amelie
obvious.
B
You
know
place
things
around
and
you
know
the
layout
stuff
and
then
again
the
point
okay.
Well,
let's
you
know
it
all
looks
bare-bones,
let's
change
the
look
and
see
me
turned
out
to
be
just
wildly
harder
than
all
the
other
stuff
that
I
done
at
that
point.
You
know
for
most
of
the
sites.
I
wasn't
all
that
fussy
about
what
they
look
like.
They
just
had
to
look.
You
know
reasonably
good.
You
know
the
content
was
all
about
the
thing:
I
just
needed
to
be
able
to
make
some
choices,
but
but
within
within
Drupal.
B
If
you,
you
know,
looked
at
the
20
most
common,
you
know
20
most
popular
Drupal
themes.
They
were
all
starter
themes
and
you
know
the
instructions
for
each
of
them
and
as
a
beginner
I
was
looking
instructions
and
they're
like
well.
As
you
know,
when
you're
theming
you're
always
you
know
this,
this
theme
takes
care
of
those
common
theming
tests,
know
what
you
knew.
I
had
no
idea
what
a
common
theme
in
tasker's
or
what
people
had
been
dealing
with
that.
So
it
was
all
you
know,
providing
answers
to
questions.
B
B
B
You
know
someone,
you
need
a
front-end
design,
you
need
someone
who
who
knows
you
know
CSS
and
HTML
too
deep,
deep
professional
levels
in
order
to
make
it
work,
and
you
know
probably
JavaScript
as
well,
whereas
in
WordPress,
as
you
know,
they're
the
most
obvious
examples
are
the
the
other
case
you
can.
You
can
choose
between.
B
You
know,
half
a
dozen
themes
that
they
come
with
it.
They
you
know
roll
out
a
new
one,
each
year
and
and
lots
of
free
ones
available,
and
then
there
there's
a
whole
community
of
commercial
but
not
very
expensive.
You
know
50
bucks
to
buy
a
professional
thing,
which
I
think
is
is
what
most
serious
like
bloggers
do
anyway
long
story
short
I.
B
A
We
know
like
out-of-the-box
views
has
like
a
teaser
view
and
it
has
a
list
view,
and
it
has
an
unformatted
view,
and
if
you
got
those
three
that
would
be
a
huge
thing
right
off
the
box
and
some
people,
like
the
table
view
there's
like
there's
like
a
handful
of
them
in
poor
for,
like
you,
had
to
support
all
five
of
these
options
or,
however
many
there
are.
Then
you'd
know
that
if
somebody
how
to
blog
view-
and
they
changed
it
from
a
teaser
view
to
a
field
style,
it
would
still
look
good.
A
D
A
Of
the
like,
they
have,
it
might
be
the
same
exact
markup
for
four
different
views
and
they'll
all
just
be
an
item
list,
but
they'll
have
different
IDs
on
them
and
in
these
UI
you
have
to
like
add
the
identifiers
for
her,
the
buta
so
like.
When
you
create
a
list
view,
it
would
look
exactly
the
same
in
all
places,
except
for
you're
like
no.
A
Oh
look,
my
team
is
providing
these
four
other
styles
and
as
long
as
I
choose
one
of
those
four,
you
know
it's
gonna
look
good,
but
as
soon
as
I
do
something
outside
of
those
four
I,
don't
know
if
it's
gonna
look
good
or
not,
and
that
way
which
it
would
also
rather
than
feeling
like.
Oh
nobody
worked
on
this
theme
to
get
this
finished,
don't
know
exactly
what
was
finished
when
you
were
looking
at
it,
it
wouldn't
be,
like
guess
and
check
like.
Does
this
look
good?
Does
this
look
good?
A
Oh,
they
only
did
one
of
them
yeah
and
then
I
think
that
might
give
a
little
bit
more
connection
between
like
the
code
that
might
be
finished
in
in
the
scenario
that
was
written
for
and
your
site,
which
might
be
a
different
scenario,
giving
you
an
easy
thing.
That
would
be
like
this
is
how
you
can
connect
them
might
be
really
beneficial.
A
So
I
think
something
like
that
where
we
can
like
tie,
make
the
user
interface
a
little
smarter
about
what's
in
the
code
might
be
better
and
we,
we
kind
of
always
had
this
problem
with
themes.
We're
trying
to
make
the
user
interface
aware
of
something
that
has
the
ability
to
alter
the
user
interface
is
a
little
tricky,
but
I
think
that
Wes
did
a
pretty
good
job
of
I.
Think
he
added
in
I
think
he
had
something
the
info
file.
So
it's
like.
A
I'm
gonna,
look
at
how
that
goes,
but
it's
also
really
great
for
theme
developers
to
be
able
to
say:
okay,
like
I
need
to
make
sure
everything
in
this
list
looks
good,
while
I'm
theming
it,
and
so,
if
you
forget
to
theme
the
messages
in
your
design,
but
you
didn't
see
any
on
the
page.
You
might
overlook
it
in
that
way.
There's
where
things
like
tabs
that
don't
show
up
on
most
sites,
but
we
get
them
interval
in
black
dress,
making
sure
like
buttons,
look
good
in
every
state
like
stuff
like
that.
A
It
all
needs
to
be
on
there
so
that
you
can
account
for
them
and
that
so
that
is
sort
of
incomplete
as
it
is
now,
because
it
includes
all
of
the
more
basic
elements
like
messages
and
types
and
menu
items
and
what-have-you.
But
it
doesn't
include
field
display
settings
and
it
doesn't
include
fuse
display
settings
just
because
there's
so
much
complexity
in
what
you
can
do
with
vectors
and
complete
different
layout
options.
A
B
Hopefully
it's
kind
of
an
you
know,
straightforwardly
easy
thing
to
do
that
in
in
the
in
the
themes
picker
and
like
the
the
themes
download
section
like
for
each
team,
that
we
had
it'd
be
nice
to
be
able
to
click
a
button
and
have
it
you
know,
apply
the
theme
to
the
style
guide
and
you
can
see
like
okay.
So
this
is
what
you
know.
This
seems
gonna
make
you
know,
tables
are
click.
This
make
headings.
Look
like
this.
This
is
gonna,
be
the
font.
B
Similarly,
and
perhaps
even
easier,
I
could
imagine
having
like
a
standard
test
content
or
it's
like.
Okay,
here's
here's!
What
the
theme
looks
like
on
the
content,
now,
no
I
I'm,
not
sure!
If,
if,
if
theme
and
content
are
two
intertwined,
if
it's,
if
it's
possible
to
have
generic
content,
that
that
makes
sense
for
things.
B
A
A
A
D
A
Carries
it
and
if
we
could
find
a
way
to
have
those
fire
up
as
soon
as
someone
contributes
a
theme,
that
would
also
be
a
really
good
way
for
the
person
who
developed
the
theme
to
click
through
and
go.
Oh
I
forgot
something
because
everyone's
gonna
see
this
and
then
they
can
go
and
pick
it
right
away,
whereas
right
now
it's
sort
of
like
anything,
you
don't
know
what
people
are
gonna
see
when
they
test
that
theme,
and
so.
B
B
C
A
So
instinctively
I'm,
saying
oh
yeah
right
now.
That
would
be
no
problem,
but
just
to
have
all
of
the
themes
on
it
so
that
anytime
anyone
creates
a
new
theme.
We
would
download
a
copy
of
that
kara
entire
code
base
and
enable
it
so
that
someone
could
switch
it
with
theme,
switcher
right
now,
I
think
that's
reasonable
cause.
You
know
that
many
themes,
ten
years
you.
B
A
A
I
do
like
the
idea
of
having
like
standard
example
content,
though
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
to
get
that
with
use
and
everything
else,
I
think
would
be
ideal,
so
I
also
think
like,
and
it
would
be
so
great
if
you
could
say,
compare
these
four
themes
and
it
would
give
you
a
sandbox
site
with
all
four
of
them
and
you
could
steam
so
just
between
them.
Oh
yeah,.
B
A
B
A
Giving
people
one
button
that
fire
except
the
sandbox
site,
is
reasonable.
That's
what
we
do
now
with
the
demo
button
on
the
home
page,
but
giving
people
like
choose
for
and
then
compare
them
user
interface,
isn't
something
we've
done.
Of
course
we
have
to
build
it
so
I'm
actually
how
hard
it
would
be,
but
it
doesn't
exist
right
now,
for
the
other
thing
does
right.
The
sandbox
integration
thing
also,
we
have
a
little
bit
of
experience,
but
that
would
not
had
a
couple
of
people
who've
set
ups
and
my
generation
using
tugboat
I.
A
Think
it's
good
I'm,
trying
to
figure
out
how
like
what
goes
into
the
sandbox
I
think
might
be
a
little
tricky
like
not
necessarily
what
we
want
in
it
but
like
how
to
make
it
happen
like
do
do
we
need
a
special
install
profile
that
contains
a
bunch
of
default
configuration
or
do
we
just
install
core
and
then
import
configuration?
How
do
we
generate
the
content?
How
do
we
make
sure
it's
consistent
across
sites
like
do?
B
I
mean
it
seems,
it
seems,
related
to
you
know
the
the
sample
site
problem,
which
you
know
Drupal
8
solved
with
with
the
mommy
theme.
With
the
you
know,
the
that
site
like
that,
that
kind
I
mean
doesn't
have
to
be
that
complete,
but
that
sort
of
idea
of
having
sample
content
sample
theme
doesn't
I
mean
it
doesn't
have
to
be
all-inclusive.
Although
you
like
to
think
that
way,.
A
A
D
A
Feel
like
we're
started,
started
to
run
into
problems
now
with
demo,
like
the
main
thing
I
really
like
the
umami
thing
is
someone
who's
evaluating
the
product
gets
a
much
better
idea
of
what
it
can
do,
or
so,
if
you
look
at
an
empty
website
really
no,
no
it's
a
little.
It's
doing
anything
and
you're
like
yeah.
It's.
B
That's
that's
a
common
model
for
these
things,
I
mean
Joomla,
for
example,
it
has
always,
you
know
you
could
say,
put
sample
content
and
it
fills
out
a
sample
site,
and
you
know:
joopa
commerce
did
a
similar
thing
where
there
was
the
the
commerce
toolkit
I.
Guess
it
was
you
you'd
fire
it
up
and
I.
Would
you
know,
put
a
sample
store
out
so
so
the
idea
of
a
example
example
content
is:
is
a
well-worn
model.
Yeah.
D
A
I
feel
like
the
Florham,
it's
and
the
giant
like
block
images
that
come
out
of
it,
don't
make
a
really
great
first
impression.
Yeah.
B
A
Be
better
ways
to
do
that
now:
miss
module
well
joining
with
me
like
more
than
10
years
ago,
and
it's
just
it's
been
enough.
So
people
haven't
really
worried
about
it,
but
I
think
if
we
wanted
it
to
be
a
example
for
selling
a
product,
it's
not
quite
enough
for
that.
It's
enough
for
developing
and
I've
do.
A
A
So
I
think
we
could
definitely
do
something
like
that,
especially
around
images.
Any
thanks
before
want
to
make
a
strong
impression.
We've
got
a
real
images
and
not
image
boxes,
but
I
think
energy
that
we
should
maybe
decide
on
like
a
theme
and
like,
for
example,
the
Drupal
8
site.
It
was
a
recipe
site,
so
all
of
the
content
they
put
in
was
around
recipes
and
it
made
it
feel
very
complete
and
like
a
good
example,
we
could
do
something
similar.
We
could
do
for
sure
where
site
or
we
could
do.
C
A
B
Something
that
just
just
pets,
I
I,
Pro
type,
a
little
thing
like
a
couple
years
back
and
and
I
wouldn't
didn't
know
what
I
was
why
I
was
doing
it,
but
like
I
did
something
with
like
the
planets
just
to
show
like
okay.
You
know
some
non
controversial
topic
that
you
can
use
just
fill
up
the
pages
with.
A
I've
had
this
idea
before
I
still
think
it's
a
good
one.
I,
don't
know
what
our
next
steps
would
be.
I
think
maybe
this
should
be
part
of
our
design
theme
initiative
thing
would
be
figuring
out
number
one,
a
way
to
standardize
on
a
site
that
everything
needs
to
theme
and
then
figuring
out.
What
like
how
to
make
that
happen.
So,
like
the
idea
like
what
it
is,
we're
going
to
do
and
then
also
the
like
how
the
heck
we're
going
to
do
outside
of
it.
Mm-Hm
I
feel
like
there's
a
lot
of
options.
A
D
D
D
Same
right,
one
of
the
things
that
the
next
meeting
is
pull
requests
that
I've
got
ready
to
marriage.
All
that
supposed
to
be
emerge
virtual,
make
install
profiles
easier
to
create
it.
You
can
create
a
new
install
profile
based
on
the
standard.
One
and
it'll
just
include
all
these
extra
things
that
we're
talking
about.
That
can
be
a
new
thing
right.
D
A
D
A
Great
so
that
means
we
have
some
options.
We
can.
We
can't
do
an
assault
profile,
but
if
their
stuff
and
can't
rip
that
we
can't
get
in
core,
if
we
I
don't
know,
maybe
it
install
profile
will
be
in
contribu.
That
would
be
easy
to
set
up
that
way,
which
is
great
cool.
A
Okay
or
running
out
of
time
on
the
meeting
today,
but
I
made
it
a
lot
of
good
progress.
I
think
we
identified
some
pain
points
and
have
some
good
solutions.
I
know
we
can
wanted
to
do
this
with
the
theme
demos
for
a
long
time,
so
I'm
happy
to
that
we're
passionate
about
it
right
now,
so
maybe
I'll
I'll
make
some
issues
in
it
in
a
queue
to
get
our
notes
down
somewhere.
So
we
don't
forget
them
anything
else.
Anyone
wants
to
add
today
before
we
wrap
the
meeting,
got
about
five
minutes
left.
C
A
That's
something
we
should
keep
an
eye
out
for
and
Joseph
as
you
start
to
notice
it.
Maybe
we'll
have
an
issue
somewhere.
We
can
document
it
because
I
do
think.
That's
the
kind
of
thing
that
we
might
be
able
to
fix
with
better
documentation,
because,
right
now
it's
like
write
whatever
you
want,
and
then
people
write
whatever
markup
they
think
is,
you
know
they
think
is
their
best
idea
of
what
it's
going
to
be.
But
if
we
had
some
standard
somewhere
roars
like
you
know,
this
is
the
way
your
classes
should
be
named
dude.
A
A
Yeah
but
yeah
I
agree
I've
had
that
same
thing
where
you
install
one
module
and
you're
like
what.
What
is
this?
What
is
this
markup
that's
coming
out
here
and
it's
just
like
a
whole
bunch
of
like
concatenated
to
like
tags
and
you're
like
oh
geez,
how
do
I
even
like,
and
it
can
be
completely
different
than
like
it
on
your
site.
So
is
definitely
true
and
I
think
that
just
comes
around
lots.
Different
people
writing
code.
It's
just
open
source,
so
hopefully
documentation
can
fix
that
or
at
least
help.
A
Okay,
well,
we
have
some
good
ideas,
so
why
don't
we
go
ahead
and
end
this
meeting
and
we'll
switch
over
to
the
duct
meeting?
Thank
you
for
Peter
here
for
weighing
in
on
chugboat
I.
Think
that's
gonna
be
really
helpful
for
us.
Thank
you,
Luke
for
being
passionate
about
the
same
thing.
There's
everything
he
tries
it
for
all.
We
were
inside
all
right
and.