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A
Pickles
okay
looks
like
we're
live
now
this
Welcome
to
our
October
20th.
That's
correct!
Isn't
it
yes
day
before
backdrop
live
design
and
usability
meeting?
My
name
is
Tim
Erickson
we're
going
to
do
a
quick
round
of
introductions.
A
Each
person
just
share
your
name
where
you're
from
and
anything
interesting
you'd
like
to
share
this
week.
I
already
said:
I'm
tumerix
and
I'm
in
deer,
with
Minnesota
and
I
guess
yeah.
A
C
I
am
Luke
McCormick
coming
to
you
from
San
Ramon
California
I'm
excited
because
I
got
tickets
to
the
last
debt
show
this
morning,
but
more
on
top
of
things.
I'm
also
excited
about
backdrop
live
tomorrow,
I'm
part
of
three
sessions,
so
I've
got
a
lot
of
responsibility
on
my
tiny
little
shoulders.
D
A
See
anything
okay
sounds
good.
Well,
since
I'm
going
to
be
leaving
in
a
minute
Jen,
can
you
kind
of
facilitate
the
meeting
I
mean
so
I
could
start
and
just
we'll
really
quickly
remind
everybody
tomorrow
is
backdrop
live
we
have
a
schedule
up
on
on
the
website.
It's
events.backruptcms.org
check
out
the
schedule
if
you're
not
registered
register
as
quickly
as
possible,
we
have
been
doing
backdrop
live
every
four
months,
we'll
probably
unless
something
changes
be
moving
to
every
six
months.
After
this
backdrop
live
help
spread.
A
The
word
is
I,
guess
the
main
thing
at
this
stage,
and
if
you
have
topics
that
you
want
to
talk
about
that
are
on
the
schedule,
it's
not
too
late
to
add
them
and
you
can
just
bring
them
with
you
to
backdrop
live
tomorrow
or
you
can,
when
you
register,
let
us
know
or
ping
us
in
Zula
I
think
we
have
a
pretty
good
schedule
already,
but
there's
always
room
for
more
and
I.
Don't
know.
Does
anybody
else?
Have
any
questions
or
final
updates
about
backdrop?
D
I
have
an
exciting
update
the
pantheon,
how
to
host
your
site
on
Pantheon
session,
that's
happening
at
2PM
I
reached
out
to
a
handful
of
people
with
Pantheon
and
didn't
hear
anything
back
if
they
were
gonna
join
or
not,
and
then
yesterday,
Oliver
reached
out
to
me-
and
he
said,
hey
Pantheon
is
thinking
about
adding
more
support
for
backdrop.
D
What
do
you
guys
want
and
I
was
like
you
need
to
come
to
this
session
right
I
mean
he's
totally
gonna
come
and
he's
going
to
be
there
from
2
to
2
45
to
hear
what
the
community
wants
of
Pantheon
and
start
creating
some
internal
movement.
D
In
order
to
make
that
happen,
which
I
think
sounds
fantastic,
so
oh
and
I
just
got
a
message
both
from
Taryn
and
from
Greg
onslack
or
the
two
people
who
attended
our
Summit
AT
ad
Camp
I
haven't
read
them
yet
because
it
just
came
in
between
when
I
started.
Talking
about
this
and
now
so
apparently
they're
talking
about
it
internally
at
Pantheon,
which
is
really
exciting.
A
Right,
yeah,
excellent
yeah,
so
we've
already
got
that
on
the
schedule.
So
that's
just
sort
of
firming
up
that'll
be
a
great
discussion,
anything
else.
Anyone
else
we
do
I'll
just
mention
a
couple
of
other
interesting
things
happening.
Amy,
June
Inland
is
coming
from
opensource.com
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
opensource.com
and
how
we
can
participate
there,
and
maybe
we
can
brainstorm
some
blog
posts
or
some
article
ideas
that
that
we
can
work
out.
A
A
Well,
those
are
just
two
sort
of
interesting
things
sort
of
out
of
the
norm,
but
obviously
we
have
a
lot
of
the
regular
stuff
background
for
beginners.
We
really
promote
that.
A
Yeah
I
guess
that's
it.
So
is
there
anything
else
that
I
need
to
Robert?
Why
don't
you
I
know
this?
Isn't
a
design
ux
reading
give
us
give
us
the
quick
update?
You
did
at
office
hours
yesterday
on
City
CRM,
because
that's
moving.
B
Along
yeah,
I
mean
actually
I
think
we're
this
close
to
being
able
to
roll
it
out
on
production,
so
in
the
project
I
put
together
a
full
workflow
for
bringing
it
up
on
production
based
on
all
the
bits
and
pieces
that
is
discovered
along
the
way,
bringing
it
up
on
beta.
B
B
B
The
user
login
page
immediately
and
so
people
you
know,
want
to
see
more
than
TBD
about
what
they're
signing
up
for,
but
at
that
point
I
think
we'd
be
ready
to
go
and
and
I
I've
I've
asked
all
the
people
who
have
had
fingers
in
the
cvcrm
pi
I've
ping
them
from
the
GitHub
issue.
To
take
a
look
and
chime
in
and
after
a
decent
interval
and
and
backdrop
live
has
elapsed,
then
I
say
I
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
and
bring
it
up
on
me.org.
A
So
I
think
Robert's
hoping
that
I
can
get
him
some
of
that
text
that
he's
looking
for
it
just
occurred
to
me,
though,
Robert
like
what
I
wanted
was
because
these
were
these
specific
groups
that
you
need
descriptions
for
are
ones
that
I
I
sort
of
requested
and
they
basically
involve
different
group
contrib
groups
that
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
like
contact
directly
and
that
include
like
contrib.
You
know,
people
writing
core
core
contributors.
A
Contrab
module
contributors,
design
contributors
did
I,
have
I
think
there
was
a
fourth
letter
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
matter
the
exact
one?
A
Yes,
and
it
occurred
to
me
that
what
I
was
more
thinking
about,
though
Robert
maybe
I,
don't
know,
I'm
making
this
up
right
now
on
the
spot
is
that
you
know
I
want
people
to
indicate
an
interest
in
these
things
and
then
I
want
to
be
able
to
contact
them.
I'm,
not
sure
if
I
just
say
like
sign
up
for
that
the
design
contrib
news
you
know,
updates.
A
If,
if
that's,
if
that's
the
way,
it
should
be
phrased
or
if
it
should
be,
you
know
sign
up
to
volunteer,
for
you
know
for
doing
design
and
out
or
design,
and
if
you
do
then
we'll
be,
you
know
we'll
use
this
list
to
reach
you.
D
C
C
D
Language,
you
want
to
use
your
time
to
work
on
any
of
the
following
things.
This
is
the
list
for
you
and
then,
if
we
need
to
send
an
email
only
to
people
who
are
interested
in
design
stuff,
we
could
say
of
this
list
which
people
are
interested
in
design
and
send
that
I
don't
know
Robert
if
we
have
to
do
anything
special
to
set
up
those
sub
groups
ahead
of
time.
D
But
we
do
have
that
data
on
on
the
user
account
on
backed
up
cms.org,
so
I
might
have
to
get
a
little
creative
about
building
that
list.
I'm.
A
B
A
B
And
that's
one
of
the
main
reasons
for
setting
up
multiple
groups,
people
every
time
a
mailing
goes
out
to
a
specific
group.
It
includes
an
opt-out
link
for
that
group
in
the
mail
okay,
and
it
also
contains
the
the
nuclear
option
of
opting
out
of
all
bulk
emails
from
us.
I.
A
Mean
so
if
we
had
a
con,
if
we
had
a
contrib
group
and
then
we
had
the
ability
to
break
that
into
sort
of
subgroups
or
tags,
I,
don't
think
we
would
be
breaking
any
rules.
If
somebody
subscribed
to
get
contrib
notifications
that
doesn't
prevent
us
from
sending
them,
you
know
to
not
sending
everybody
all.
You
know
all
these
emails
right.
It
would
be
like
they.
They
agreed
to
get
contrib
contribution
or
emails,
we're
just
sending
them
the
ones
that
are
relevant
to
them
of.
B
Of
flagging,
we
need
to
basically
create
a
data
field
that
indicates
their
sub-interest
right
and,
and
that
doesn't
exist.
Currently.
Okay,.
B
D
Do
think
we
have
a
field
on
the
user
profile.
I
might
be
making
this
up
I'm
just
going
to
go
check.
D
No,
we
have
an
areas
of
expertise
which
is
not
really
areas
of
interest,
but.
B
D
So
we
could
probably
get
that
list,
even
if
it's
not
easy
to
do
it
like
in
the
city
UI.
D
A
Okay,
I
will
I
only
have
a
few
minutes,
I
guess
I.
It
seems
to
me
that
there
is
a
site
distinction
here
right
between
creating
these
different
groups
and
just
creating
one
group
with
sub-interests.
If
we
can
do
the
sub-interest
thing
that
seems
like
it
would
work
fine
for
my
end
and
have
some
advantages,
but
if
it's
technically
difficult
at
all
I,
don't
you
know
I
think
having
individual
groups
works
as
well.
D
D
Also
think
it
might
be
premature
to
create
the
subgroups
now
and
if
we
just
had
a
like
contributors
list
to
start
with,
we
could
figure
out
how
to
add
that
later.
If
we
thought
we
would
want
to
use
them,
what
I
don't
want
to
do
is
have
like
have
people's
initial
instinct
to
be
like.
Oh
there's,
15
things
I
need
to
think
about
I'm
like
overwhelmed
and
not
going
to
sign
up
for
everything,
but
once
they're
already
invested
and
they're,
like
oh
I,
like
these
things,
what
are
my
interests?
D
A
I
ask
a
practical
question,
which
is
so
I
mean
I.
Think
I
want
to
use
these
sub
groups
soon,
but
but
that
could
still
be
something
that
comes
later
or
behind
the
scenes
like
if,
in
terms
of,
if,
if
I'm
talking
to
Joseph,
you
know
as
a
call
and
I
say
Joseph,
do
you
want
to
help
us
with
our
marketing
efforts?
And
he
says
yes,
you
know,
can
I
just
add
him
to
that,
and
then
he
gets
emails
or
is
that
Breaking
Bad
the
gdpr?
Is
he
not
signing?
D
Might
be
Robert,
you
might
know
this
answer
better
than
me.
There
might
be
a
way
where,
if
you
sign
him
up
it'll
send
him
an
email.
That's
like
please
confirm
your
subscription
and
that
way
he
would
be
opting
in
even
if
we
added
him
manually
and
that
would
get
around
the
legal
requirement
if
somebody
needing
to
opt
themselves
and
there's
also
a
check
box.
When
you
add
people
to
a
list,
that's
like
I.
D
You
know
confirm
that
I'm
adding
this
person
legally,
which
we
could
use
to
bypass
that
process,
but
I
think
it's
a
general
rule
would
probably
be
good
if
somebody
verbally
says
yeah
I'm
interested
in
doing
that
before
we
add
them
to
a
mailing
list,
they
get
a
ability
to
be
like
decide
on
their
own.
Oh
do
I
want
to
be
on
a
daily
list.
No,
so.
B
D
A
I
hear
Jen's
point
about
well
about
not
making
this
too
complicated.
This
form,
but
I
I
mean
I.
Just
I
want
to
be
able
to
I
want
to
be
the
ability
to
segment
people
in
the
groups
of
interest
and
reach
out
to
them.
That's
so,
however,
the
best
usability
is
for
that
without
overwhelming
people
and
it
you
know,
I'm,
okay,
with
sort
of
manually,
putting
people
into
these
groups.
A
For
now,
if
that's
easier,
and
if
it's
we're,
you
know
policy,
wise,
okay,
okay,
that
we
get
confirmation
from
people,
they
say
they
want
to
be
I,
don't
I'm,
not
envisioning
most
of
these
groups
before
they
pay
to
start
with
right
right,
yeah.
D
And
I
think
if
we
do
start
manually,
we
can
also
just
do
a
really
good
job
of
like
telling
people
like
I'm
gonna.
Add
you
to
this
mailing
list
and
then,
if
they
want
to
opt
out,
they
can
in
the
future,
but
yeah
I
think
as
long
as
they
aren't
surprised
by
that
we
probably
won't
have
any
issues.
B
Let
me
bring
kind
of
back
to
a
functional
requirement
when
a
person
signs
up
for
an
account,
you
know
they
they
go
to
the
user.
Slice
register
they're
going
to
have
their
username,
their
email
address
a
bunch
of
fields
for
their
address
stuff
and
a
collection
of
check
boxes
for
these
groups,
and
we
need
to
create
a
block
of
text
that
describes
what
those
check
boxes
are,
and
it
can
be
anything
we
want
right,
but
I
need
some
description
of
of
that
text
to
go
on
to
that
form.
And
similarly,
when.
B
A
Right
so
I
think
what
we're
discussing
is
rather
than
having
four
boxes.
Now,
though,
maybe
there's
just
one:
that's
either
contribution
or
is
the
word
volunteer
right?
Maybe
it's
the
volunteer
Group,
which
is
the
equivalent
of
contribution
right,
but
it
might
make
more
sense
to
contribution,
seems
too
specific
to
some
people
right.
They
think
of
contribution
as
code
where
they
volunteered
to
be
on
the
marketing
committee
or
something
so
I,
don't
know
which
that's
so
that's
the
wording
issue
right
is.
How
do
we
phrase
this
in
a
way
to
Encompass?
D
Can
maybe
use
that
longer
description
text
to
tackle
that
some
of
some
of
that
too,
like
if
the
the
name
of
the
group
was
something
like
I,
would
like
to
be
a
volunteer.
Then,
in
the
description
we
could
say,
volunteering
includes
helping
with
marketing
contributing
code,
whatever
and
sort
of
give
us
a
little
bit
more
to
work
on
that
a
little
more
room
to
work
on
that
language.
Okay,
it
doesn't
have,
we
don't
have
to
get
it
right
in
the
label.
A
Well,
maybe
I'm
going
to
leave
now.
Maybe
this
helped
clarify
that
enough
Robert,
if
it
didn't
I,
still
try
to
get
you
something
later
and
it
you
know,
defining
these
subgroups
isn't
going
to
hurt,
even
if
we
don't
use
them
right
now.
So
I'll
try
to
do
that.
Yeah.
A
D
You
can
work
on
some
descriptions
to
help
for
those,
the
four
that
are
that
are
left
or,
however,
many.
A
D
Hi
Tim,
let's
see,
is
that
herb
who's
asking
for
the
current
city,
no.
C
I
think
I
probably
got
the
email
or
the
the
message
because
it
sounds
familiar
or
to
come
in
and
check
the
the
latest
results
of
the
super
project,
but
I
I
couldn't
find
it
in
Search
and
I'm
I'm
deeply
interested
so
yeah.
B
Okay,
so
in
the
it's
in
the
backdrop,
CMS
issues
queue
hang
on
just
a
sec
and
I
will
pull
it
up.
It's
backdropcms.org
I
should
say
issues,
view
and
I.
B
B
Here's
the
project
that
has
all
of
the
issues
in
the
chat
today
there
was
a
discussion,
someone
asking
about
managing
tools
to
manage
sort
of
large
collaborative
things,
and
this
is
an
example
of
github's
project
interface,
where
you
can
kind
of
group
a
whole
create
a
whole
slew
of
issues
and
as
they
get
when
you
close
an
issue,
then
it
moves
into
the
done
column
and
all
of
the
improgress
things.
D
B
And
I
just
noticed
I
guess
I
do
need
to
do
some
more
theming.
B
D
I
think
that's
that's
not
your
fault
that
there's
some
monkey
code
in
there
from
the
previous
user
registration
form.
That's
probably
just
interfering
with
all
the
city
stuff,
so
yeah,
but.
B
D
B
But
if
you,
if,
if
you
log
into
your
account
on
beta,
you
can
see
the
the
sub
tabs
for
civi,
go
to
your
user
account
and
I.
Think
that
looks
pretty
decent
I'll
go
to
my
profile,
yeah
yeah!
That
one
actually
looks
pretty
decent.
So
you
can
see
taxes
if
you
want
I'll
share.
B
This
is
my
user
page
and
ways
in
which
I
contribute
is
the
stuff
from
backdrop
and
then
name
and
address
mailings.
B
B
This
it's
got
sub
tabs
and
settings
is
everything
that
used
to
be
that's
part
of
the
backdrop
at
a
page,
but
then
there's
also
a
name
and
address,
and
this
is
a
city
CRM
tab,
the
city,
CRM
data
and
mailings
are
the
groups,
and
so
we
we
get
some
description
about
the
individual
groups,
I
mean
about
the
overall
groups,
description
for
the
individual
groups
and
you
can
check
which
ones
you
want,
and
there
is
the
nuclear
option.
No
bulk
emails
means
you
will
never
get
a
bulk
mail
on
any
topic
from.
D
Yeah
it
looks
like
we
could
use
a
like
a
terminology
pass
and
I.
Don't
know
if
any
of
this
is
configurable
in
city.
We
might
have
to
like
change
things
like
forcibly
through
Alters
or
something
but
like
settings
doesn't
make
sense,
if
that's
mostly
our
profile
data
like
it's
expecting
username
and
password,
which
are
also
on
there
but
backdrop
puts
all
of
its
stuff
in
the
same
tab.
So
it's
not
necessarily
settings
and
then
mailings.
D
B
Settings
is
actually
we
can
change
that
to
anything
we
want,
because
that's
chain
I,
don't
remember,
I,
think
that
actually
says
edit
and
which
makes
very
little
sense
to
have
edit
being
a
sub
tab
of
edit
yeah.
So
I
changed
it.
So
there's
I
used
an
altered,
a
menu,
alter
to
change
it
to
settings
and
we
can
change
it
to
whatever
we
want.
So,
okay.
B
I
guess
I
knew
it
was
really
bad
and
name
and
address,
and
mailings
I
think
those
are
also
done
in
the
in
the
menu
alter
because
City
CRM
called
it
something
like
mailings-6.
B
It
was
it's
the
machine
name
of
the
profile
thing,
oh
boy,
okay,
so
we
can
change
that
to
whatever
we
want.
Also,
okay,.
D
B
C
D
B
You
see
there
is
what
I
took
a
stab
at
writing
but
of
course,
oh.
D
I
see
there's
like
description
TBD
everywhere.
That's
weird
that
it's
showing
up
above
instead
of
below
I.
B
Oh
and
I
and
I
think
we
could
I
think
City
CRM
lets
you
make
your
help
text
free
or
post.
So
if
so,
we
could,
if
you
would
prefer,
have
right.
D
D
I,
don't
think
we
can
put
it
above
on
any
of
the
backdrop
stuff,
so
it
might
be
good.
Just
to
have
I
don't
know,
I
might
have
added
some
weird
Alters
or
theme
overrides
for
like
text
areas,
to
put
it
above
and
everything
else
to
put
it
below.
So
it's
gonna
be
hard
to
make
a
consistent
because
I
don't
think
Civic
uses
any
of
the
theme
functions
from
backdrop.
I
think
it
has
its
own.
It's
a
standalone,
yeah
stuff.
So.
D
D
Well,
I,
don't
know,
I,
think
it's
probably
fine
for
now,
but
we
can.
We
can
clean
it
up.
If
we
want
to
in
the
future
depends
on
how
much
effort
we
want
to
spend
on
it
and.
B
C
D
C
Is
it?
Is
it
really
almost
trigger
ready
like
whether
like
we
can
I
would
have
said
yes,
except.
B
Except
then
I
saw
the
breakfast
of
the
registration
page,
so
it's
almost
trigger
ready,
but
it's
it
still
needs
that.
D
Okay,
let's
see
there's
one
issue
on
our
agenda:
this
is
this
admin
bar
consider
replacing
the
home
icon
with
the
text,
return
to
site
or
back
to
site.
Has
anyone
here,
I
know
Tim
was
following
this
year?
Does
anyone
here
followed
that
issue
Robert?
Have
you
looked
at
it
before
this?
Is
it
I
took
a
look
at
it.
E
The
so
it's
a
it's
a
actually
changes
the
functionality.
So,
okay,
when
you
use
the
admin
bar
to
navigate
from
front-end
page,
basically
a
page
that
does
not
use
the
admin
theme
to
a
page
that
does
use
the
admin
theme.
It
stores
the
last
page
in
your
in
your
browser
session
and
that
changes
from
a
home
link
to
a
back
to
site,
link
and
it'll.
Take
you
back
to
the
last
the
last
non-admin
page
you
were
on
when
you
click
it.
B
So
I'm
going
to
okay,
so
here
we
are
and
we're
looking
at
your
first
post
and
now
I'm
going
to
go
to
the
dashboard
page.
It's
suspended,
maybe
just
come.
B
There
we
go
okay,
so
I
go
to
my
dashboard
and
you'll
notice.
Up
here,
home
has
changed
to
back
to
site
and
if
I
click
on
it,
I
didn't
go
back
to
the
home.
Page
I
went
back
to
your
first
post,
the
page
that
I
was
on
and,
interestingly,
that
persists
through
multiple
levels
of
admin
so
like
if
I
go
to
contact,
which
is
an
admin
page
and
edit,
which
is
an
admin
page.
So
now,
I'm
two
levels
in
but
back
to
side
is
still
going
back.
E
E
D
D
Yeah
right
and
so
like
that
could
be
like
a
colloquial
thing
of
just
how
people
refer
to
stuff
now,
and
my
brain
is
just
like
logically
isn't
correct,
but
it
doesn't
matter
if
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
people
you
play
something
that
is
logically
correct
right,
so
yeah
I,
don't
know,
I
wonder
how
other
people
interact
with
that
and
if
it's
I
mean
if
it
says
back
to
site
and
Drupal,
and
everyone
loves
it
and
maybe
just
copying
the
same
thing
they
do
is
the
right
way
to
go.
There.
D
So
yeah
yeah,
it
looks
a
useful
feature.
My
general
opinion
I
haven't,
looked
at
the
pull
request,
but
thank
you
for
explaining
that
Joseph.
D
C
Minutes
I
have
a
super
minor
thing
that
I
don't
take
any
time,
but
I
I
noticed
the
the
the
the
session
notes
for
a
in
the
the
backdrop
Live
Events
I
are
no
numbers
and
I'm
curious.
Yes,.
D
So
I
also
noticed
this.
What
happened
is
when
we
created
all
of
the
sessions.
Their
titles
are
TBD
right,
and
so
then
all
the
URL
releases
are.
D
Them
all
which
made
sense,
but
then,
when
you
rename
them,
they
don't
get
their
automatic
Alias
is
back
so
yeah
I
was
thinking
again
with
the
like
wish
list
of
things.
I
want
to
build
the
the
way
the
schedule
was
gonna
work
in
the
future
is
that
every
session
will
automatically
be
created,
with
no
Alias,
the
the
title
TBD
and
on
the
session
itself.
Anyone
who's
registered
for
the
for
the
event
will
see
a
button
that
says
like
claim
this
time
slot.
D
You
click
the
time
slot
you'll
get
taken
to
the
edit
form
of
the
page.
It'll
get
switched
to
you
as
the
owner.
So
now
you
have
access
to
the
node
and
then,
when
you
hit
save,
we
could
automatically
have
turned
on
the
Alias
checkbox
that
wasn't
turned
on
before
so
right.
Now
that
doesn't
happen,
which
is
not
ideal.
D
So
if
you
have
a
session-
and
you
wanted
to
have
a
pretty
Alias,
you
can
edit
your
own
session
and
you
can
change
it
but
yeah
for
anyone
who
isn't
aware
of
that
or
doesn't
have
a
session
and
just
notice
the
other
people's
sessions
label
there's
nothing.
We
can
really
I
mean
we
could
manually,
go
in
and
update
all
of
them,
and
maybe
that's
the
easiest
thing
to
do.
D
It's
I
agree:
I
saw
that
too
and
was
like.
Oh
no.
We
hadn't
fully
considered
the
ramifications
of
our
previous
actions,
which
is
not
uncommon
but
yeah.
It's
one
of
the
things
where
there's
a
technical
solution,
but
take
some
work.
That's
fine!
All
right!
We.