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A
Good
afternoon
good
evening,
good
morning,
whatever
time
it
is
for
you,
this
is
the
backdrop
CMS
use
group
meeting
on
organic
groups
being
recorded
on
the
17th
of
August
unless
you're
in
Australia
or
Asia,
in
which
case
it'll
be
the
18th
of
August.
My
name
is
Martin
price
I'm,
a
backdrop
developer
in
Northeast,
England,
United,
Kingdom
and
we'll
pass
the
introductions
on
to
Olaf.
C
C
D
Is
it
okay?
Well,
let
me
know
if
you
think
it's
me,
that's
the
problem.
I
I
didn't
hear
who
you
asked
to
go
next:
Robert
I'm,
gonna,
just
jump
in
because
I'm
talking,
I'm
Tim,
Erickson,
Saint,
Paul
Tim
on
the
internet,
I'm
in
Deerwood
Minnesota
again,
let
me
know
if
there's
a
internet
connection,
that's
causing
my
connection
to
lag.
E
E
F
Hi
hi
I'm
Izzy
I'm
from
Vancouver
Canada
I've,
been
using
Drupal
for
15
years
and
I've
done
quite
a
bit
of
stuff
with
Organic
groups
on
Drupal
7
and
before
that
and
I've
been
watching.
The
developments
of
backdrop
and
I
think
it's
ready
for
prime
time
now
that
organic
groups
is
up
and
running
but
I
haven't
yet
got
my
feet.
Wet
so
I
thought
I'd
sit
in
and
see
what
I
can
learn.
F
D
George
I
think
that's
everyone,
so
we
don't
I,
don't
know
that
anybody's
prepared
a
street
a
structured
presentation
today,
but
I
do
have
a
demo
site
spun
up
that
I
can
share
my
screen
with
I.
Don't
know
if
anybody
else
has
a
like.
A
live
organic
group
site
that
they're
prepared
to
demonstrate
I
might
be
kind
of
looking
at
you
Olaf.
D
Yes,
yes,
you
have
something
you
can
share.
Okay,
we'll
just
have
to
decide
where,
where
to
start-
let's
just
say,
maybe
a
quick
background
on
the
organic
groups.
Module
of
the
the
this
only
got
officially
released
as
a
backdrop
port
in
April
I
think,
according
to
our
steps,
there's
still
only
about
18
sites
using
it,
but
it's
growing
pretty
quickly.
D
I
know
that
a
number
of
people,
including
Irina
and
Olaf,
were
waiting
eagerly
for
it
and
helped
push
it
across
the
Finish
Line
one
of
the
our
own
one
of
our
own
internal
infrastructure
sites.
The
the
localization
site
that
we
use
for
backdrop
rely
relied
on
the
organic
groups
module,
so
we
were
using
Drupal
7
until
fairly
recently
until
we
got
organic
groups.
So
now
we
were
able
to
import
that
site
to
backdrop
because
of
organic
groups
availability.
D
This
anybody
else
want
to
just
sort
of
give
an
in
so
again,
I
have
a
demo
site
spun
up
that
we
can
look
at
if
we
need
to,
but
if
it
makes
sense
to
go
another
Direction
I'd
like
to
jump
right
into
what
you've
got.
Oh,
if
that's,
okay
as
well.
All
of
you
do.
You
want
to
talk
briefly,
just
give
us
a
quick
summary
of
what
the
organic
group
module
does.
Is
that.
C
B
So
there
were
some
items
mentioned
on
the
website
and
I
can
go
through
them
quickly.
So
with
the
module
you
can
obviously
create
groups
and
the
group
the
groups
consist
of
first
group
members
and
also
members
of
different
roles
and
permissions
and
so
on
and
of
groups
and
of
group
content.
So
if
you
have
organic
groups,
you
can
create
various
groups.
So
let's
say
you
are
in
a
school
and
you
have
different
working
groups.
B
C
B
Then
the
groups
can
be
private
or
public,
so
if
they
are
private,
only
the
group
members
can
see
the
content
and
post
content
in
it
and
if
it,
but
it
can
also
be
public
so
and
I-
could
can
show
an
example
for
it
later
yeah
and
then
you
can
also
have
group
discussions,
for
example,
very
simple,
using
the
command
function.
So
if
you
have,
for
example,
a
Blog
content
type
write,
some
blog
posts
and
people
can
respond
to
it.
So
that's
at
a
quick
overview.
B
C
B
B
D
Either
way,
I
don't
have
any
active
sites
using
organic
groups,
but
I
did
help
with
the
demo
content
mod
sub
module
for
organic
groups
when
we
released
it
and
I
was
I
was
refreshing,
my
memory
a
little
bit
in
the
last
hour
because
organic
groups,
we
specifically
included
a
demo
content.
So
when
you
go
to
and
sell
out
wait.
C
B
D
Let
us
know
I'll
just
finish
what
I
was
saying,
though,
that
we
have
this
Demi
groups,
organic
groups
example,
and
you
have
an
option
when
you,
if
you're,
if
you
haven't
used
organic
groups
and
you're
playing
with
it,
I
highly
recommend.
Turning
on
that
module,
basically
real
quickly,
what
that
module
does
is
it
gives
you
some
sample
groups
with
just
some
sort
of
random
sample
content
to
help
you
play
with
the
the
group?
The
module
is
very
unintuitive.
D
B
D
D
Fairly
quickly,
the
the
big
thing
with
Organic
groups
is
that
you
have
to
create
two
content
types,
a
content,
type
for
groups
and
then
a
content
type
for
group
content.
You
don't
have
to
name
them
this
way,
but
it
this
is
the
way
we
did
it
in
the
sample.
Module
I
have
some
sample
content
here,
which
is
lettering
things
up
from
my
testing.
D
But,
for
example,
we
set
up
three
groups
with
a
content,
type
called
group,
and
then
we
set
up
three
nodes
and
each
node
is
an
individual
group,
so
theme
developers,
documentation
and
core
development,
and
then
we
also
have
a
content,
type
called
group
content
and
then
any
particular
node.
If
we
go
to
edit,
this
can
be
assigned
to
any
of
any
of
the
available
groups
that
you've
created.
D
If
we
go
to
excuse
me
if
I
go
to
a
specific
group,
there's
this
group
tab,
which
gives
you
the
ability
to
add
a
group
member,
manage
existing
members
and
also
view
only
and
and
I
got
tripped
up
by
this.
This
today,
when
I
was
looking
at.
This
is
I
thought
I
should
be
able
to
edit
my
permissions
here
and
you
can't
edit
them
on
this
page.
That's
why
it
says
read
only,
but
you
can
view
what
how
the
permissions
are.
Configured
I'll
go
back
to
and
and
also
roles.
D
D
You
could
create
different
content
types
for
different
types
of
groups
and
then
give
each
different
type
of
group
different
permissions
and
different
roles,
and
here's
where
I
would
actually
edit
those
the
yeah
I,
don't
know
I.
Think
that's
a
real
high
level
overview.
There's
there's
other
settings
in
here.
You
can
play
through
I,
don't
want
to
get
too
detailed
and
most
people
have
questions
roles.
Membership
field
settings
I
did
I
can
show
you
an
example
of.
D
This
is
the
same
site
logged
in
as
a
regular
user.
So
as
a
regular
user,
I
said
that
I
set
it
up
so
that
the
core
developer,
the
the
default
content
are
sort
of
set
up,
is
the
core.
The
core
developer
or
whatever
group
is
private.
So
when
I've
logged
in
as
a
regular
member,
not
an
admin,
I
can
only
see
these
two
groups
when
I
click
on
them
I.
This
is
by
default.
There's
you
know.
Obviously
you
can
configure
this
differently.
D
I
can
see
the
title
of
the
nodes,
but
I
can't
actually
see
the
content
because
I'm,
not
a
member
of
the
group
but
I
can
subscribe
to
the
group
and
this
because
I
was
playing
around
in
this.
This
might
be
a
bug
that
I
need
to
report,
but
this
had
to
do
with
the
fact
that
I
had
I
was
switching
things
around
I.
D
D
B
B
C
B
But
go
ahead,
yeah
I.
Think
one
interesting
difference
is
that
in
grouper,
seven
organic
groups
made
use
of
panels
as
far
as
I
remember,
and
so
you
had
a
lot
of
panel
pains
for
various
views
and
in
backdrop
we
work
with
mostly
with
blocks,
and
so
a
lot
of
views
were
replaced.
So
panels
were
replaced
by
blocks
and
you
can.
B
With
the
on
the
layout
block
management
Pages,
then
the
other
topic
upgrade
is
possible,
so
I
actually
decide
which
I
can
show.
You
in
a
minute
was
upgraded
from
Google
7.
and
with
a
lot
of
groups,
and
that
worked
really
fine.
So
it's
possible
with
a
normal
upgrade
path.
So
you
don't
have
to
migrate
the
content
but
can
just
upgrade.
D
Yes
and
just
I
I've
never
done
this,
but
there
is
a
page
on
the
wiki.
So
for
all
I'll
backdrop,
contrib
modules
on
their
GitHub
page
have
a
Wiki
page.
Most
of
the
wiki
Pages
aren't
used,
I've
been
trying
to
get
them
started
for
more
modules,
but
some
of
them
are
using
them
quite
effectively
and
unfortunately,
organic
groups
module
has
a
bunch
of
good
documentation
here
and,
and
it
does
you
get
this
from
the
regular
backdrop.org
project
page.
If
you
click
on
the
documentation
link,
it
takes
you
here
so.
E
E
Add
all
the
modules
that
you
need:
there's
a
module
that
is
almost
ready
to
go
D
to
be
migrate,
which
will
automatically
pull
models
that
you
need
if
they're
available
in
backdrop
repository
and
then
you
import
database,
either
through
backup
and
migrate
or
directly
in
the
database.
Whatever
tools
that
you're
using
and
then
you
click
button
upgrade,
and
so
everything
should
be
converted-
and
that
is
you
know
it
was
the
dream
that
was
described.
Oh
wouldn't
be
it'd
be
great.
E
If
that
is
how
Drupal
upgrades
would
work
and
it
does
work
for
me
on
reasonably
configured
sites,
it
does
not
work
on
super
custom
modules
and
it
doesn't
work
on
sites
with
bad
architecture,
because
the
site
has
bad
architecture.
You
will
inherit
this
back
architecture,
so
you
want
to
start
with
good,
clean
site
that
works
well
for
you.
E
So
that's
the
ideal
scenario.
I
am
happy
to
drop
the
link
to
the
d2b
module
or
to
the
articles
about
actual
migration,
or
that
was
questioned
from
Easy
right
yeah.
If
you
want
to
schedule
time
to
do
demo
for
Vancouver
User,
Group
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
do.
Just
the
real
live
demo,
but
specifically
for
organic
groups.
That's
something
that
I
would
love
to
test
myself,
and
so,
if
we're
doing,
the
demo
I
would
like
to
invite
everyone
and
I
will
be
asking
lots
of
questions
as
well,
specifically
related
to
organic
groups.
D
Excellent
Izzy,
if
you
haven't
done
this
before
I,
mean
basically
conceptually
an
upgrade
from
Drupal
7
to
background,
should
work
the
same
way.
A
Drupal
6
to
Drupal
7
upgrade
worked
where
you
kind
of
replace
the
database
and
and
do
an
up
and
just
run
the
upgrade
process,
and
it
upgrades
your
database.
You
can
also
do
a
migration
that
migrate.
D
Your
data,
if
you
prefer,
but
the
the
upgrade
process,
is
meant
to
be
simple
and
most
a
lot
of
the
modules
that
have
imported
have
upgrade
paths
so
that
it
will,
you
know,
upgrade
the
whatever
changes
you
need
for
your
organic
groups
module.
My
guess
is
that
there's
only
been
a
few
people,
who've
actually
done
this
upgrade.
D
So
if
you
do
try
to
do
an
upgrade,
especially
with
Organic
groups
and
you
run
into
some
glitches
and
you
report
those
in
the
issue-
queue
I,
think
we,
you
know,
there's
oftentimes,
we
can
get
those
fixed,
pretty
quick
and
we
would
like
to
you
know,
catch
bugs
and
improve
that.
But
but
it
should,
you
should
be
able
to
do
it
just
in
direct
upgrade.
F
D
B
D
And
yeah
and
I'll
just
repeat:
we
do
we
have
a
form
site
if
you
haven't
found
it
yet
and
that
it's
it's,
it's
not
there's
a
activity
in
it
almost
every
day
and
usually
people
are
pretty
responsive
to
questions
posted
there
and
it's
also
it's
archived
right.
So
so
it
helps
future
users,
but
we
also
do
have
a
chat
channel
in
zulup.
D
If
you
ask
us
about
that,
if
you're
not
aware
of
it,
okay,
any
other
questions
about
who
can
I
pin
people
down
who's
actually
used
the
the
module
before
or
specific
in
Drupal,
7
or
background
we
know
is,
he
has
and
we
know,
Olaf
has
and
I
have
I
I
mean
I've
I've,
never
used
it
in
a
live
site,
but
I
have
played
with
it
quite
a
bit:
Laren
Martin
Robert.
Have
you
guys
used
it.
D
D
That
I
had
to
play
with,
but
the
main
thing
I
was
thinking
about
is
that
there,
oh
I,
have
to
do
the
this
other
site.
The
Subscribe
link-
this
is
a
block
and
and
Olaf
was
referring
to
the
fact
that
in
Drupal
7
that
use
panels
and
in
backdrop
a
lot
of
this
stuff
is
done
with
blocks.
Well,
this
block
was
not
enabled,
is
not
enabled
or
set
up
in
our
in
our
sample
content
module.
D
So
when
you
came
to
a
page,
even
if
you
had
permission
to
join
a
group,
there
was
no
link
already
there
to
do
it
so
I
had
to
just
add
the
Subscribe.
You
know
Izzy
in
particular,
if
you're
new
to
backdrop,
one
of
the
really
big
things
it
takes
to
get
used
to
is
the
layout
system
and
backdrop.
This
is
really
important.
D
It's
really
nice
once
you
get
used
to
it,
but
it's
a
little
bit
confusing
at
the
beginning,
but
anyways
we
have
a
a
special
layout
that
we
were
using
and
I
put
I
just
had
to
drop
the
membership
links
block
onto
that
page
and
then
that
showed
up
little
things
like
that.
There's
also
quirky
stuff,
like
you
know
how
this
displays,
if
you're
not
actually
a
member
but
you'll,
have
to
tweak
and
play
with
a
bit
to
get
right,
but.
D
C
D
Irena
you
mentioned
that
using
it
intensely
and
noting
that
the
UI
could
use
some
improvement,
I
don't
want
to
make
Grand
claims,
but
as
we
ported
it
I
think
Alejandro
did
a
lot
of
work
on
the
module
and
and
and
olift
did
a
lot
of
testing
and
gave
and
and
some
other
people
did
and
we
tried
to
to
make
the
UI
a
little
bit
better.
I
I
think
it's
Marge.
D
E
C
B
B
B
And
here
you
have
a
lot
a
menu
or
here
also
a
menu
of
groups.
So
these
are,
for
example,
these
are
working
groups,
and
so
they
have
a
lot
of
groups
and
I
can
show
you
how
a
group
page
looks
like
so,
for
example,
you
have
here
one
that's
a
group
about
literature
for
young
people
and
media
for
young
people
and.
C
B
B
Yeah
and
I
think
that's
already
it
for
this
page,
so
the
as
you
saw.
Maybe
they
have
a
lot
of
groups
all
these
here
are
some
groups
and
your
other
subgroups
and
so
on
and
in
the
same
organization
has
or
I
should
say
head,
because
that
is
a
duplicating
site
which
they
don't
use
anymore,
but
it
still
exists.
B
A
private
group
site
and
yeah
that
was
built
in
2007,
but
with
the
same
organic
groups,
module
and
would
be
also
upgradable
to
backdrop,
but
they
decided
now
that
they
didn't
need
it
anymore.
But
I
can
show
you
and
it's
as
another
use
case,
so
I
can't
see
any
content
on
that
side
before
I
log
in
so
I.
B
Do
that
now
and
here
I'm
a
test
member
now
with
two
test
groups
and
just
to
show
you
so
here
are
all
groups,
so
my
groups
and
all
the
other
ones,
and
so,
if
I
go
to
my
group
again
here
on
the
home
page
of
the
group,
I
have
a
lot
of
yeah
River
of
content
or
how
you
name
it.
So,
just
all
the
content
of
a
group
sorted
by
date
and
then
I
have
a
lot
of
or
I
have
some
very
different
yeah
content
types.
B
B
Then
I
have
here
some
content
also
and
then
we'll
teach
Booth,
that's
a
sort
of
Wiki
pages
at
that
time.
That's
files,
so
all
the
files
of
the
group
land
in
this
on
this
page
and
certainly
as
a
group
member,
can
also
add
new
content,
new
projects,
new
blog
posts
and
so
on
and
remember
so,
as
you
saw
as
a
non-member
of
this
platform,
you
can't
see
any
content
and
also
as
a
member
of
other
groups,
I
can
can
see.
The
content.
B
I
can
also
only
see
the
content
of
this
two
groups,
and
this
worked
very
well
and
it
was
built
a
bit
after
the
model.
Maybe
some
of
you
know
it
of
open
atrium,
but
it's
totally
custom
so
because
these
distributions
are
very
probably
problematic
and
it
wasn't
so
hard
to
build
it.
So
I
agree
that
organic
groups
has
is
it's
quirky
architecture
and
so
on,
but
at
the
end
it
was
quite
simple
to
build
that
platform.
B
B
A
D
Yeah
sure
well,
I,
probably
am
unlikely
to
use
other
entities
as
well,
but
I
noticed
today
in
my
experimenting
with
it
that
you
could
configure
it
for
other
entities
and
just
found
that
interesting,
yeah
yeah,
there's
something
that
was
else
was
occurring
to
me.
As
you
were
talking
Olaf.
Is
there
the
use
cases
and
I
think
you've
kind
of
demonstrated
them?
D
The
most
I
think
the
most
obvious
use
case
for
for
organic
groups
right
is
you
have
different
groups
that
you
want
to
have
make
content
visible
to
different
groups
right,
so
you
have
four
committees
in
each
committee.
You
know
the
the
content
is
only
available
to
members
of
that
committee,
but
I
think
enough.
Another,
maybe
less
obvious,
but
really
use
the
common
use
case
might
be.
Maybe
all
the
content
is
visible
to
everybody,
but
you
want
different
editor
groups
right,
so
you
want
one
group
of
people
that
can
edit.
D
B
D
B
Have
or
whether
the
groups
have
different
roles
like
a
group
administrator
and
then
I
think
one
other
was
translation,
supervisor
and
third,
maybe
just
group
member
and
so
and
then
you
can
assign,
or
they
are
assigned
different
permissions
to
the
Buddhist
roles.
And
so,
for
example,
translation
supervisor
is
able
to
translate.
A
C
B
C
C
D
C
F
F
I
don't
want
to
hijack
this
discussion,
but
you
know
you.
You
often
hear
people
talking
about
how
organic
groups
is
weird
and
that's
where
a
lot
of
people
have
kind
of
gravitated
towards
the
groups.
Module
and
I
have
written
a
few
things
on
the
drupal.org
site.
Maybe
what
I'll
do
is
dig
those
out
and
add
them
to
the
backdrop
thing
because
you
know
I
think
there
is
a
that
sense.
F
D
B
B
So
it's
very
basic
and
maybe
doesn't
work
really
and
unfortunately,
the
Drupal
7
version
if
I
require
correct,
isn't
any
more
supported
by
the
maintainer
and
so
not
only
that
all
the
development
goes
in
the
Drupal
8
9
10
version,
but
also
it
sounds
like
yeah.
It's
a
group
of
certain
version
never
really
was
finished
in
a
way
like
the
organic
groups.
Organic
groups
had
two
branches
and
the
second
branches,
really
it
is
quirky
in
a
way,
but
it's.
On
the
other
hand,
it
works
very
really
well.
D
It's
I
think
a
similar
situation,
the
Uber
card
and
the
Commerce
module
right
is
that
both
the
Commerce
module
tried
to
make
a
more
entity
specific.
You
know
more
modern
entity,
architecture
for
Commerce
than
Uber
part,
which
was
had
been
developed
before
entities
were
in
Drupal,
core
and
I.
Think
the
same
thing
is
through
organic
groups
and
the
group's
module
right
is
that
the
groups
module
tried
to
make
better
use
of
the
the
new
entity
system
and
had
those
advantages
I
know.
D
I
was
I
spent
most
of
my
time
experimenting
with
the
groups
module
in
Drupal
7..
Just
because
I,
you
know
I
heard
it
was
more
modern
and
never
really
played
with
Organic
groups.
Much
but
now,
in
the
backdrop,
space
I
don't
have
that
choice
and
I'm.
Finding
that
the
Organics
groups
does
everything
I
needed
to
do
so,
I'm
happy
with
it.
D
E
Yeah
I
wanted
to
Second
what
Tim
is
saying
so
easy.
It's
important
for
people
who
are
beginning
to
work
in
the
backdrop
Community,
similarly
to
what
was
happening
in
Drupal
five
six
when
we
were
joining
like
there's
lots
of
people
who
were
joining
or
were
not
sure
so
asking
any
questions
related
to
you
know.
I
have
this
problem
that
I'm
trying
to
solve.
You
know
how
do
you
do
this?
This
is
what
my
site
is
doing.
E
D
C
D
A
big,
complicated
discussion
which
we
won't
go
too
far
down,
but
we've
certainly
talked
about
that
and
are
aware
of
that.
I
mean
I,
think
I'm,
not
that
surprised
that
organic
groups
numbers
are
low
fairly
low.
Just
so
that
it's
not
been
out
that
long.
You
know
in
a
stable
release,
I
think
and
and
it's
it's
a
pretty
big
module
right,
so
it
if
you're
building
a
site
with
it.
It
doesn't
happen
overnight.
So
I
expect
it
will
continue
to
grow.
D
C
B
Think
tens
or
thousands
but
I'm,
not
sure
on
the
other
side.
On
the
other
hand,
I
think
it's
it's
very
important
for
people
coming
from
Google
seven,
so
they
can
upgrade
their
site
yeah
and
I.
Also
myself,
even
if
I
think
it's
a
nice
module
in
a
way,
I'm,
not
sure
if
I
would
build
new
sites
with
it,
because
not
because
of
this
specific
module,
but
because
it's
maybe
comparable
with
the
Forum
module
or
building
a
custom
Forum.
B
It's
not
that
modern
certain
people
use
nowadays
use
other
tools
to
communicate,
or
they
have
at
least
more
options
than
before.
So
all
these
services
and
live
chats
and
so
on,
and
that's
hard
to
build
with
such
a
CMS
system
so
take,
for
example,
a
live
chat
you
hit
hit
and
enter,
and
it's
there
and
people
respond
immediately
and
so
on,
and
that's
that's
the
way
how
people
communicate
nowadays
and
so
I
think
the
usage.
D
I
think
you're
just
aggressing,
really
a
demand
question
right
that
eight
ten
years
ago
that
the
idea
of
these
kind
of
membership
group
sites
were
much
more
common
and
Drupal
was
a
really
powerful
tool
for
that,
and
today
there
seems
to
be
less
demand
for
that.
A
lot
of
that
is
I.
Think
I've
still
run
into
some.
You
know
there
are
still
some
use
cases,
but
I
I
definitely
hear
you
like.
F
I
guess
if,
if
people
are
going
to
use
a
SAS
environment,
they
could,
but
you
know,
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
things
you
can
use
organic
groups
for
I
mean
one
of
the
things
that
we
found
very
helpful.
Was
you
can
use
it
both
for
an
intranet
as
well
as
for
an
external
or
extranat?
You
know,
and
so
and
and
another
capacity
which
was
built
with
a
combination
with
taxonomy
access
was
to
actually
have
I.
F
And
so
you
know,
with
with
Organic
groups
and
the
combination,
we
were
able
to
sort
of
reuse,
useful
pieces
of
content
without
having
to
recreate
them
over
and
over
again
and
and
I.
Think
that
kind
of
thing
in
your
own,
in
your
own
system,
has
a
lot
of
Advantage
but
maybe
overlooked,
because
a
lot
of
people
look
at
websites
now
as
some
some
simple
sites
that
are
really
kind
of
like
the
for
their
photographs
and
so
on.
F
Coming
back
to
another
usability
aspect
with
Organic
groups,
there's
a
it
seems
like
we
needed
to
use
PHP
embeds,
to
try
and
and
create
some
of
the
functionality
and
a
lot
of
people.
You
know
it's
always
been
a
caution.
Don't
don't
write
your
own
PHP
into
this
block
or
something
because
it's
not
secure,
but
you
know
I
mean
if
you
wanted
to
do
things
like
be
able
to
identify,
visibly
display
that
this
post
is
public
just
because
of
how
it
looks
to
have
those
kind
of
displays.
F
D
We
we've
the
what
was
the
the
module
PHP
block
or
PHP,
whatever
it
was,
the
Drupal
7
module.
There
was
some
resistance
to
even
porting
that
module
to
backdrop
because
of
the
security
issues
are
sort
of
inherent
right
that
having
the
ability
to
insert
PHP
through
the
UI
is
sort
of
inherently
a
bit
dangerous
I.
Actually,
because
people
kept
asking
about
it,
I've
never
used
the
block
on
the
live
site,
but
I
did
Port
the
module
and
it's
available
in
GitHub.
D
We
did
not,
however,
create
a
release
for
it,
because
we
don't
want
to
make
it
easy
to
use.
We
don't
want
people
to
so
you
won't
find
it
in
the
project
browser
on
your
site.
But
if
you
really
want
that
module-
and
you
want
to
take
responsibility
for
it-
there
is
a
port
on
GitHub
I.
Think
the
overall
thinking
about
the
the
PHP
code
module
is
that
oftentimes
I
think
people
who
use
it.
D
Maybe
don't
fully
understand
that
they
could
get
the
same
thing
using
views
or
certainly
the
better
way
would
be
to
write
a
simple
custom
module
right
so
that
you
have
the
PHP
code.
In
the
back
end
in
that
and
the
UI,
so
those
are
better
approaches,
I
think
I,
I
I've
never
felt
the
need
to
use
PHP
in
the
UI
with
background,
because
we
know
we
know
alternative
ways
of
getting
those
things
done.
D
D
We're
we've
got
just
under
10
minutes
left
in
our
time
slot
here
what
we
could
do.
Well,
thanks
everybody
for
talking
about
organic
groups.
We
we
have
a
few
minutes
to
talk
about
just
a
couple
mention
a
couple
of
other
things.
First
of
all,
because
we
have
Izzy
here
who's
fairly
new
is
we
do
just
so
you
under
Comfort?
Could
you
ask
tell
us
how
you
heard
about
today's
discussion.
E
F
A
whole
lot
going
on,
but
you
you
know
I
didn't
realize
I,
maybe
should
have
clicking
on
the
title
like
any
other
node,
would
take
me
to
the
details,
but
it
didn't
have
like
a
readme,
so
so
a
little
bit
of
a
little
bit
of
improvement
on
that
side
of
it.
I
think
will
go
a
long
way
to
helping
people
understand
what
status
and
and
of
course,
there's
a
lot
more
detail
of
what
this
the
event's
about.
So
it's
not
a
not
a
big
deal,
but
it
could
definitely
be
improved.
There.
C
D
Actually,
that's
a
great
point:
we
don't
this
was
we
had
three
topics
lined
up,
and
this
was
the
last
one.
So
we
before
we
leave
today,
we
should
at
least
get
one
more
Topic
in
two
weeks,
every
two
weeks
we're
doing
these
sort
of
user
group
meetings.
Otherwise,
on
the
alternate
weeks,
we
have
a
ux
design
meeting
where
we're
actually
talking
about
internally
how
to
improve
the
ux
of
background.
D
Backdrop
live
is
our
we
were
doing
it
three
times
a
year,
we've
scaled
it
back
to
two
times
a
year.
It's
an
online.
It's
like
a
day
and
a
half
event
that
on
on
basically
an
online
mini
conference,
anybody
can
suggest
a
topic
and-
and
we
have
discussions-
you
know
whatever
people
want
to
talk
about,
including
some
basic
intro
stuff
on.
D
D
D
D
Maybe
CRM
so
laryn
suggested
to
vcrm
I
think
we
already
did
so.
We've
we've
been
doing
these
Community
meetings
for
about
four
or
five
months
now
and
I
believe
we
did
one
on
the
city
CRM,
that's
not
to
say
we
couldn't
do
one
and
do
another
one,
especially
if
somebody
had
something
particular
to
talk
about.
Does
anybody
else
remember
for
sure
did
we
do?
D
F
E
C
F
I,
looked
at
bootstrap
light
I
mean
one
of
the
challenges
there
is.
It
doesn't
seem
to
have
the
scss
files
with
it,
and
so
you
know
all
that
flexibility
you
have
of
being
able
to
use
use
that
is
gone,
but
maybe
I
don't
understand
how
better
to
use
the
child
themes
and
staying
with
the
with
the
default.
But
I
should
cut
out
let
this
meeting
roll
over
to
the
to
your
other
commitments.
E
Go
ahead,
I'm,
gonna,
I'm
gonna
go
out
because
it's
two
o'clock
I
have
to
deal
with
some
other
things,
but
it's
been
I.
Think
it's
easy.
It's
great
to
see
you!
You
can
now
spread
the
back
backdrop
word
in
Vancouver,
wherever
I'm
sure
there
are
lots
of
people
will
benefit
and
team
Erickson
I'll
see
you
soon,
but
thank
you.
Thank.
D
We'll
wrap
this
up,
I'll
just
mention
before
you
leave
that
Martin
I
I
think
both
Martin
and
Robert,
who
were
in
our
meeting
today,
have
done
work
on
bootstrap
light
modules,
okay
or
the
bootstrap
mod
or
themes
for
backdrop
and
I.
Don't
think
we've
done
a
user
group
meeting
on
that.
So
that
might
be
a
good
topic.
I'll
talk
to
them
and
see
if
they're
willing
to
help
demonstrate.
The
other
thing
is
that
these
are
modules
that
could
be.
D
You
know
more
work
could
go
into
them
to
make
like,
for
example,
adding
a
sass
there.
There
really
aren't
many
options
for
themes
that
have
sort
of
SAS
Frameworks
built
into
them.
My
own,
my
own
team.
We
have
added
our
own
SAS
to
to
themes,
but
we,
you
know
I,
I,
I
I,
think
it
would
be
nice
to
have
a
number
of
the
really
active
Drupal
or
backdrop.