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From YouTube: Backdrop Outreach meeting - April 2, 2020
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A
We
are
on
air
today
is
Thursday
April
2nd.
This
is
a
meeting
on
community
outreach
for
backdrop
CMS
and
let's
take
a
minute
to
go
around
and
have
everybody
say:
what's
your
name
where
you're
from
and
if
there's
anything
else
you
want
to
share
with
us
quickly
today,
it's
not
on
the
agenda.
Let's
start
with
Luke.
B
C
I'll
go
ahead:
I'm
Kim,
I
think
well,
Tim
reporting
to
you
from
northern
Minnesota
near
Deerwood
Minnesota
prior
to
the
meeting
I
tried,
showing
some
deer
grazing
in
the
backyard,
but
I
missed
them
and
just
a
fun
fact.
I
just
checked
the
background
music
statistics
and
we
just
crossed
1,200
sites
for
the
first
time
the
stats
jump
up
and
down
a
little
bit,
but
this
but
the
numbers
I
clove
36
this
week,
which
first
time
we've
been
above
1200.
That's.
A
D
It
is
from
Switzerland
I,
create
marketing
websites
using
backdrop
for
small
businesses
and
focus
on
front-end
development.
Another
backed
up
developer
brought
to
development,
the
creating
content
and
I
have
a
marketing
background
as
a
professional
marketing
background
and
I
hope
that
to
be
useful
in
this
in
this
group,.
A
A
All
right
so
continue,
so
what
we
usually
do
in
this
meeting
I
think
you
might
have
been
in
our
last
one
sort
of
go
down
a
to-do
list
of
things
that
we
think
will
help
spread
the
word
about
backdrop,
but
none
of
us
have
marketing
or
branding
or
any
kind
of
experience
that
would
help
in
that
area.
A
So
we're
mostly
just
guessing
at
the
things
we
think
we
should
be
doing
so
if
there's
anything,
that's
not
in
this
agenda
that
you
think
we
should
be
doing
or
anything
that
we
need
to
prioritize
that
we
aren't
we're.
Definitely
all
open
to
that.
So
we
have
a
sort
of
a
set
of
things
that
we
tend
to
do
every
week,
that
we
have
itemized
like
posting
on
social
media
or
writing
blog
posts
and
stuff,
like
that.
A
We
also
have
some
other
stuff
that
we're
trying
to
do,
but
maybe
don't
do
so
regularly,
like
yet
backdrop
posted
on
other
websites
or
create
YouTube
videos
or
things
that
can
be
shared,
that
aren't
on
our
own
properties.
And
then
we
have.
You
know
person-to-person
outreach
like
going
to
events
which
obviously
doesn't
reach
as
many
people
at
once,
but
often
tends
to
have
leave
a
stronger
impression,
and
so
those
are
kind
of
areas
but
again,
like
there's
a
whole
lot
more
out
there
that
we're
not
aware
that
we
don't
like
we
don't
know.
A
We
don't
know.
So
if
you
see
anything
where
you're
like,
why
isn't
backdrop
community
doing
X?
It's
probably
just
we
haven't
thought
of
it
so
feel
free
to
jump
in
okay.
So
from
last
week
we
have
a
lot
of
like
ik,
exciting
initiative
going
on
in
the
PMC,
but
the
PMC
members
don't
seem
to
be
having
very
much
time
to
write
blog
posts,
exception
Tim,
who
wrote
a
fantastic
blog
post,
which
I
can't
wait
to
get
out.
A
A
We
think
that
would
probably
be
the
right
order
to
do
that
and
then
well
I'm,
not
really
sure
if
we
need
to
get
Nate's
toast
out
between
those
two,
but
it
it
had
been
on
our
list
how
to
write
this
blog
post
for
like
a
year
and
he's
finally
written
it,
and
now
it's
blocked
by
this
other
Club
posted
here,
new
PMC
member.
So
we're
not
very
good
at
writing
content.
It
turns
out,
but
I
have
some
time
today.
A
So
hopefully
I
don't
I'll
check
and
see
what
Jack's
been
up
to,
because
Jack
offered
to
write
that
post
last
week.
I
said
no
time
last
week,
but
I
have
time
this
week,
so
I'll
see
if
I
can
get
it
done.
If
they
haven't
done
it
already,
we
have
social
media
stuff.
That
Tim
has
mostly
been
managing
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
give
us
an
update
on
that
or
ask
any
questions.
A
C
I
think,
as
always
at
any
feedback
that
people
that
are
people
watching
the
back
rubs
that
our
Twitter
feed,
if
you
have
any
feedback
or
ideas
of
something
we
should
be
doing,
I
go
a
bit
in
spurts
I.
Think
we've
been
getting
at
least
a
couple
of
Twitter
posts
out
per
week.
Sometimes
more
and
I
don't
know,
I
feel
like
it's.
It's
a
reasonable
amount.
We
could
do
better
that
our
other
content,
having
more
like
blog
posts
to
tweet
about,
would
be
great
yeah.
C
A
General
anyone
who
has
a
account
on
by
trips
and
s
org
can
write
a
blog
post
by
default.
They
end
up
unpublished
and
somebody
is
supposed
to
review
them
every
Thursday.
And
if
the
content
is,
you
know,
quality
content
that
we
think
is
valuable
to
our
audience,
then
we'll
schedule
it
and
I.
And
ideally
the
reason
was
that
we
wouldn't
get
a
bunch
of
blog
posts
coming
out
like
the
same
week.
We
could
sort
of
stagger
them.
A
Do
should
have
one
a
week
sort
of
thing,
but
we've
been
getting
some
content
that
needs
like
edits,
which
sometimes
the
people
who've
written.
It
don't
really
have
the
experience
to
be
a
to
make
the
content
super
relevant
to
a
backdrop
audience
so
like
we
had
somebody
who
wrote
up
or
was
you
know,
a
Content
author
and
really
wanted
to
write
content
for
backdrop,
and
they
were
like
I
love
backdrop:
I
use
it
all
the
time.
A
I
want
to
write
something
I'm
gonna
ride
it
buck
was
done
like
hosting
options,
but
then
they
weren't
really
familiar
with
like
where
like
how
to
put
back
to
when
different
kinds
of
hosts
or
like
what
the
different
kinds
of
posts
meant,
and
so
there's
a
post.
That's
like
it's
very
technical
but
I'm,
not
sure
it's
valuable
in
the
same
ways
where
readers
like
I'm,
not
sure
they
need
that
education
where's.
A
They
probably
like
need
to
know
where
do
I
put
my
backdrop
site
and
if
they
wanted
to
read
an
article
on
hosting
that's
what
they
would
expect
so
I
asked
like.
Could
we
maybe
add
something
to
it?
That
was
like
you
know
if
you
want
shared
hosting
here
some
options
or
point
them
to
a
page
in
our
site
where
they
can
get
them,
so
they
don't
want
the
information
they
don't
have
to
get
it.
A
But
that
became
very
hard
and
kind
of
a
blocker
for
getting
that
article
done,
and
then
we
have
another
one
that
somebody
was
like.
Oh
I
have
all
this
experience
in
like
search
engine,
optimization
and
I
want
to
write
under
fall
and
that,
but
that
ended
up
not
being
like
backdrop
specific
enough,
like
we
have
a
bunch
of
tools
like
like
the
image
styles
right
where
they
were
like.
You
should
make
your
thumbnails
smaller
and
like.
Could
you
just
add
something
in
here
about
how
we
have
this
feature
like
built
into
core
and
it'll?
A
So
there's
just
it's
a
lot
of
really
like
I,
think
well-meaning
people
who
just
don't
have
experience
in
the
right
areas
to
be
able
to
make
those
posts
compelling
in
the
way
that
I
think
we
would
like
to
have,
and
then
we
have,
on
the
other
end
of
the
spectrum.
A
lot
of
really
technical
people
who
want
to
write
like
Jeff,
wrote
a
post
on
like
how
to,
in
fact
upon
composer
and
I'm
like
well.
That
is
fantastic,
but
that's
also
not
really.
A
The
audience
you're
trying
to
reach
like
people
like
Jeff
will
share
that
information
and
it'll
be
fantastic,
but
90%
of
the
people
are
running
back
to
Frank.
I,
don't
want
to
use
backdrop
with
composer,
so
it's
just
we're
trying
to
have
a
hard
time
like
filling
the
middle
gap.
We're
like
we
need
good
content
for,
and
people
are
starting
with
backdrop
who
need
information,
and
we
don't
really
have
it
so
I
think
we've
had
this
idea
recently
that
every
decision
in
the
project
minge
committee
makes
sure
to
come
with
a
blog
post.
A
So
we
also
have
this
backlog
of
like
more
general
blog
posts
that
need
to
be
written.
Like
hey.
We
added
security
as
one
of
our
principles
last
year.
That
would
be
a
really
good
blog
post
that
could
be
non-technical
and
rollin
relevant
to
everyone,
whether
you're
new
to
backup
or
a
core
developer
or
core
commit,
or
whatever
and
kind
of
spans.
A
All
all
groups,
but
yeah
so
I
think,
as
far
as
I
still
want
to
accept
the
blog
posts
from
the
people
who
are
well-meaning
and
want
to
try,
but
I
think
they
need
a
little
bit
more
hand-holding
and
it's
hard
to
have
like
we
don't
have
anyone
who
sort
of
has
the
time
to
do
that
and
be
like
hey.
This
article
is
fantastic.
We
did
I
think
it
was
like
a
couple
years
ago
we
had
one
person.
A
But
the
problem
was
that
the
people
who
write
the
blog
post
get
discouraged
when
they
feel
like
their
work,
has
been
modified
too
much
like
like
it's
not
theirs
anymore
and
so
trying
to
get
that
delicate
balance
off
like
we
want
to
help.
You
make
good
content,
but
we
don't
want
to
like
write
it
for
you.
I
think
that
would
it's
very
hard.
We
know
has
time
and
experience
and
understanding
like
nuance
and
how
to
do
that,
and
it
just
doesn't
happen.
A
B
A
When
the
content
range
is
such
you
know,
spectrums,
like
you,
need
an
executive
editor
people
understand
the
stuff,
Jeff
writes
about
earning
backed
up
on
composure
and
like
understands
what
different
hosting
providers
might
provide.
It's
like
a
technical
executive
editor
who
can
write
in
a
voice
that
applies
to
everyone
of
every
it's
just
a
very
hard
thing
to
do.
Who.
D
But
that
may
ask
a
question
regarding
the
target
group:
you
might
have
discussed
it
before.
I.
Wasn't
there
in
the
meetings,
but
did
you
define
that
because
I
wrote
a
blog
post,
a
long,
long,
blog
post
about
back
turf
CMS
two
years
ago
targeted
to
people
like
me,
small
audiences
and
end
of
life
of
Drupal
7?
What's
next,
what
should
I
do?
Should
that
change
to
apply?
For
me,
you
see
whatever
and
I
had
a
tremendous
feedback
and
on
that
blog
post.
D
A
D
A
A
So
we
did
have
that
conversation
I
feel
like
it
was
sort
of.
We
left
it
almost
unfinished
like
I'm,
not
sure
we
have
I'm,
not
sure
what
like
we
talked
about,
if
I'm
not
to
exchange
anything
we're
doing
which
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
if
it
should
have
I
think
it
was
a
sign.
It
was
just
the
talking
about
what
we're
doing
now,
but
I'm,
not
sure
yeah
I,
don't
know
how
to
take
that
information
and
turn
it
into
anything.
Actionable.
C
B
C
I
go
a
bit
back
and
forth
between
I
mean
the
kinds
of
things
that
I
think
helped
solve
this
problem.
I
wanted
to
get
the
civvie
CRM
thing
taken,
care
of
I
mean
I,
think
it
would
be
great
to
have
people
be
able
to
volunteer
and
say
their
interest
is
in
helping
with
the
blog
and
for
us
to
know
who
those
people
are
right
right
now,
Jen,
you
might
have
a
handful
of
people
in
your
head
that
you
know
are
interested
in
that
or
some
of
us
might
show
up
at
the
meeting.
C
But
there
isn't
any
place
that
I
know
of
where
we
have
a
list
of
people
who
said
hey,
I'm
interested
in
the
blog
and
I
think
it
would
maybe
be
easier
for
a
violent,
like
that
kind
of
editorial
role
might
be
easier
for
someone
to
take
on
if
they
knew.
Oh,
here's,
a
group
of
people
that
are
interested
in
that
that
I
can
call
on
to
help
me.
C
You
know
I
could
even
envision
every
other
week
or
once
a
month,
an
editorial
meeting
where
people
really
just
sit
down
and
like
actually
work
on
getting
that
those
blog
posts
taken
care
of,
but
I'm
really
hesitant
to
suggest
new
meetings,
because
we
have
enough
of
those
already
and
I
don't
want
it.
You
know
to
me
a
new
meeting
would
be
great
if
we
could
get
new
people
to
come
to
it,
not
if
it's
the
same
people
going
to
another.
That's
not
helpful
yeah.
B
Would
it
would
it
change
things
if,
instead
of
calling
them
meetings,
if
you
called
them
sprints,
because
because
it
a
it,
sounded
like
there
were
two
things
that
felt
like
Sprint's,
it
felt
like
there's,
there's
occasional
need
for
him.
Outreach,
sprint
and
I
feel
like
there's
a
need
for
a
CBC
rhyme
sprinting
it
to
get
it
going
because
it's
been
there.
It's
been
spinning
wheels
for
a
while
now
yeah
I.
A
C
A
C
A
That
we
have
all
of
our
current
people
in
there
yeah,
so
that's
where
it
gets
tricky.
We're
like
we
had
an
empty
City
CRM
site
before,
but
like
what's
the
use
of
a
user
database
with
no
users
in
it.
So
that
was
one
thing
and
then
how
do
you
even
architect
it
in
a
way
that's
valuable
for
what
we
want
to
get
out
of
it?
A
You
sort
of
need
to
have
someone
who
understands
ok,
first
of
all,
what
we
want
to
get
out
of
it,
which
is
a
little
amorphous
even
to
us,
but
also
like
based
on
the
needs
of
our
organization.
What
are
things
from
their
experience?
The
city
would
really
work
and
so
having
a
firm
like
works,
the
city
and
works
with
nonprofits
to
be
able
to
like
have
that.
Ok,
we're
gonna,
remove
all
these
18
features
from
Sevilla
aren't
gonna.
A
Do
you
any
good
and
add
these
four
that
aren't
in
core
that
you're
gonna
need
and
that
like
sort
of
experience
is
something
that
I
think
I
know.
I,
don't
have
I
think
that
our
team
is
missing
and
having
pa'lante
involved
in
that
I
think
is
gonna.
Be
huge,
and
so
that's
kind
of
where
we're
stuck
right
now-
is
that
they're
also
really
busy
right
now
and
so
trying
to
get
and
they're
like
we
want
to
help
and
it's
like
I,
don't
need
you
to
help
I,
don't
know
so.
Yeah
I
feel
like
I
agree.
A
It
would
be
great
to
have
civvy
I.
Also
think,
there's
probably
other
things
we
can
do
without
city
like
based
on
the
fact
that
we
have
a
mailing
list.
Well,
in
theory,
yeah
I
would
just
I,
don't
really
know
like
if
cities
actually
a
blocker
I
feel
like.
If
we
had
it
would
we
know
what
to
do
with
it.
I
don't
know,
maybe
if
they
told
us
well,
Timmy
played
with
it
for
awhile
you'd
figure
out
how
to
like
collect
the
right
data.
A
C
I
mean
to
me,
you
know
I.
My
first
step
would
be
just
to
install
it
and,
to
start
I
mean
I,
have
ideas
already
about
what
I
would
like
to
get
out
of
it
right
that
the
main
thing
for
me
is
a
list
where
we
can
have
anybody,
who's,
volunteered
and
short
of
categories
right
and
I.
Just
I,
don't
suspect,
that's
not
going
to
be
hard
to
figure
out
in
Sydney,
and
so
as
long
as
I
can
track
contact
information
who
the
person
is
what
they
do.
C
I
think
you're
right
that
we
don't
necessarily
even
need
to
be
for
that,
and
we
could
see
we
could
be
stage
two
right.
We
could
do
this
in
a
spreadsheet
mm-hmm,
but
we
have
to
make
that
decision
right
so
yeah
they
just
start
gathering
that
information
and
having
it
available
and
then
it
could
be
ported
into
a
spreadsheet
later
or
into
indicates
iffy
once
we
get
it
set
up.
Yeah.
A
C
A
C
B
This
is
a
problem:
I've
studied
a
lot
which
doesn't
necessarily
mean
I'm
good
at
it.
Okay,
I've
looked
at
it
and
and
what
what
I'm
feeling
is
is
that
we
have.
We
have
a
lot
of
requirements
attached
to
this,
and
and
we
should,
we
should
look
carefully
at
those
requirements
and
see
if
we're
not
slowing
it
down
with
one
or
more
things
that
that
aren't
strictly
needed.
B
For
that
I
mean
well
one
example
that
just
sort
of
jumped
out
and
I
don't
know-
maybe
maybe
this
would
have
to
be,
but
but
the
idea
of
it
being
tied
to
the
existing
backdrop,
CMS
that
that
org
website
strikes
me
as
a
as
a
difficult
thing
B,
because
it
makes
it
much
less
disposable.
It
means
that
there's
there's
much
greater
danger
breaking
something
if
things
go
awry
then
that
if
it
was
an
independent
thing,
I
mean
when
I.
B
When
I
first
mentioned,
you
know
CRM,
like
maybe
two
years
ago,
I
I
suggested
using
Salesforce,
because
as
a
non-profit,
we
can
get
a
Salesforce
insulation
for
free,
and
it
seemed
reasonable.
I
mean
civvy
is,
is
one
of
perhaps
our
best
like
partner
in
this.
So
so,
if
we
can
use
them,
I
mean
that's
a
huge
win,
but
it's
not
huge
enough.
A
I
mean
there's
nothing,
stopping
you
from
doing
that
right
now,
setting
it
up
that
integrates
with
backup,
see
my
story.
That
was
also
something
it
was
not
on
our
roadmap.
But
after
having
the
initial
meeting
with
the
folks
at
Volante,
they
were
like.
Oh
no,
you
definitely
need
to
have
it
hooked
up
with
your
current
website
or
you're
gonna
have
to
deal
with.
You
know
a
bunch
of
problems
that
come
from
like
people
doing
things
on
your
main
website
and
not
getting
recorded
in
your
city
instance.
A
A
Also
don't
want,
like
I,
don't
want
the
tool
to
get
in
the
way
of
the
goal,
yeah
and
so
I
think
like
thinking
too
much
about
like
we
can't
do
anything
because
we
don't
have
a
tool,
regardless
of
what
that
tool
is,
is
also
maybe
the
wrong
way
of
thinking
about
it
like
we
should
be
like
okay.
Well,
what
is
the
goal?
And
if
we
can
get
to
the
goal
of
the
spreadsheet,
like
Tim
recommended?
That's
a
perfectly
fine
thing
to
do.
A
We
don't
need
a
sales
force
and
we
don't
need
a
city,
though
they
might
be
better.
They
shouldn't
it.
Shouldn't
stop
us
from
getting
a
list
of
people,
who've
been
to
bactrim
events
or
a
list
of
people
who
have
made
donations
or
whatever
it's
like.
We
have
all
this
data.
We
just
need
to
figure
out
what
we
need
and
put
it
someplace
where
we
can
get
at
it.
So.
A
C
Yeah,
actually,
that
you
know
Wow
okay,
that
could
be
a
good
temporary
solution.
It's
just
to
have
some
behind
the
scenes
field
that
we
can.
You
know
where
we
can
add
a
note
to
a
user.
The
downside
is
that
there
would
be
a
few
more
of
us
making
content
changes
to
the
site,
but
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
problem.
Yeah.
A
B
A
B
C
A
C
A
Can
you
also
define
like
how
do
you
know
if
somebody's
willing
to
contribute
like?
Is
it
based
on
what
they've
done
currently
like
because
we're
starting
with
like
we
don't
have
any
check
boxes
of
values
in
them?
But
we
have
to
have
this
data
somehow
right
and
then
we
can
maybe
even
like
what
regards
whatever
the
tool
is.
I
could
get
you
datasets
of
whatever
that
is
based
on.
You
know.
B
A
C
B
E
B
B
Oh
that's
what
a
theme
is
and
also
to
provide
a
little
impetus
to
like
similar
to
the
example
we
just
talked
about
about
of
you
know,
make
you
bad
logo.
Okay,
the
ideal
thing
is
that
somebody
looks
at
me
is
like.
Oh,
my
god.
These
things
are
crap.
I
could
be
something
better
than
this.
In
ten
minutes
so
that
they
do
so
that
we
have,
you
know
better
things.
B
C
I
still
have
a
hard
time
wrapping
my
head
around
because
of
the
way
the
layouts
are
separate
from
themes.
I
still
I
haven't
like
tried
something
like
this
before
and
so
I.
Don't
know
how
easy
it
is
to
apply
the
same
theme
to
different
content.
You
know
that's
been
set
up
a
different
way
right
to
me.
C
A
It
gets
tricky
when
people
start
introducing
custom
layouts,
but
I
mean
even
if
you
look
at
the
way
themes
had
been
built
in
the
last
five
years,
like
there's
a
layout,
CSS
stylesheet,
usually
that's
separate
from
everything
else
that
handles
like
columns
and
stuff
like
that,
so
the
CSS
has
already
been
separated
in
terms
of
I.
Don't
know
not
everything
but
like
Zen,
and
all
these
like
base
themes.
They
always
really
quirt,
since
the
layout
is
not
the
same
as
the
style,
and
so
we've
just
done
that
and
a
much
more
rigid
way.
It's
like.
A
Not
only
are
you
like
not
putting
this
CSS
in
the
same
file,
but
you
can't
like
it
comes
from
a
completely
different
source,
but
the
reason
they've
done
that,
so
you
can
throw
out
that
CSS
style
sheet
for
layout
and
throw
in
another
one
for
a
different
layout
and
use
a
different
grid
system
or
whatever
you
want.
So
it
should
be
possible.
A
I'm
really
curious,
because
I
have
I
think
to
contribute
that
do
support
all
ten
core
layouts
to
see
what
would
happen
if
I
threw
them
on
and
I
have
a
tarball
of
like
here's
all
of
the
core
layouts
with
like
placeholder
contents
in
them.
That
would
probably
be
something
we
could
throw
on
to
like
your
sample
site
Luke,
where
we
could
figure
out
like
legitimate
dummy
content
that
might
be
relevant
to
your
coffee
thing.
A
B
Think
I
think
once
I.
If
I
match,
gets
to
be
this
this
basic
thing
it
can
be
branched
out
in
a
variety
of
ways.
Before
there
can
be
other
sample
contents,
there
could
be
sample
layouts,
there
can
be
other
things
and,
and
we
get
to
find
out
how
modular
it
really
is
yeah,
you
know,
but
I
mean
theoretically
should
work,
but
it's
good
to
go
into
laboratory
and
see
if
your
theories
are
correct.
I
really.
B
B
The
inspiration
also
is
things
we
actually
studied,
alright,
so
so
yeah.
So
so
that's
that
that's
the
the
theme
tester
idea
and
for
what
it's
worth
it
the
thing
I'm
looking
at
is
is
I,
think
the
source
of
the
famous
Drupal
cliff,
maybe
because
you
know
Drupal
was
originally
very
much
like
this
hacker
thing
and
a
and
as
people
built
onto
it,
they
they
made
pieces
of
it
easy.
B
C
Let
me
come
in
on
that
something
since
you
brought
it
up.
Jen
I
was
thinking
about
anything
like
I
had
a
class
session.
One
and
I've
got
two
students
to
start
with
and
I'm
hoping
it'll
grow
and
and
for
those
who
aren't
familiar.
I
just
started
to
offer
a
class
how
to
build
a
back
row
site
with
that
crop,
and
it's
targeted
at
like
site
builders
and
the
two
people
are
both
like.
Both
of
them
have
Drupal
experience.
Neither
of
them
consider
themselves
coders
at
all
PHP.
C
They
have
miscellaneous
degrees
of
comfort
with
with
like
theming,
but
even
you
know,
like
I
asked
it,
you
know,
I
think
one
of
them
hasn't
used
of
use
at
all.
Yet,
despite
having
played
with
Drupal
the
other
ones
like
yeah
I,
know
the
basics,
so
anyways
they're
kind
of
basic
site
builders,
the
one
guy
I
brought
up
the
blog
earlier,
because
he's
written
a
blog
post
that
might
be
good
for
background
work.
It's
about.
G
A
B
C
B
A
B
So
I
mean,
from
my
perspective,
there's
there's
two
obvious
sources
of
of
backdrop:
customers
there
and
the
most
obvious
one
is,
you
know,
stems
from
from
the
founding
for
King
right
right
that
the
drupal
decided
to
abandon
this
gigantic.
Incredibly
well,
debugged
and
very,
very
functional
core
to
you,
know,
go
off
and
do
something
different,
but
you
good
for
them,
but.
B
A
million
lines
of
well
debugged
functional
code,
no
one's
using
okay.
Let's,
let's
try
to
do
something
with
that.
So
that's
like
the
the
core
thing
that
we
have
to
work
with
and
and
kind
of
the
the
obvious
opening
there
is
that
is
it.
The
Drupal
project
is
about
to
abandon
at
some
point
that
I
keep
your
off,
but
but
at
some
point
the
the
roadmap
is
to
abandon
all
these
all
this
old
code
base
and
and
move
on
and
no
longer
support
it
and
you've
got
literally
millions.
B
Oh,
you
know
websites
out
there,
where
people
put
a
huge
amount
of
effort
into
getting
stuff
to
work
that
that
are
going
on
you
have
you
know
that?
Don't
necessarily
you
know
want
to
be
unsupported,
so
so,
if
we
can
invite
them
into
us
that
that's
that's
a
huge
reservoir
of
potential
resources
and
and
I
just
discovered
kind
of
recently
I
mean
I.
B
It
just
seems
nuts
and-
and
maybe
the
underlying
architecture
for
them
has
changed
so
much,
but
with
our
case
I
mean
we
do
that
right.
We
translate
Drupal
7
views,
backdrop,
views
and
I
mean
that
that's
that
right
there
saves
the
planet
like
a
billion
hours
of
developer
time.
You
know,
but
that
is
that
is
a
hundred
billion
dollar
advantage.
A
F
B
Just
you
know,
could
just
be
documentation
and
simply
have
a
few
how
to's
and
and
you
can
count
from
the
sun.
How
much
more
time
we
have
two
minutes,
there's
another
piece
that
I've
actually
started
working
on
myself
and
again,
this
is,
you
know,
see
how
much
completed
babe,
but
but
a
project
that
I've
been
working
on
a
coding
project
is,
is
I've
been
working
on
Drupal
8,
migrate
module?
Why
you
might
wonder
what
does
that
have
to
do
with
anything?
B
Drupal
8,
migrate,
module,
migrates,
Drupal,
7
sites?
Did
you
believe
Drupal
7
is
close
enough.
The
Bach
backdrop
that
I've
been
able
to
put
a
little
bit
to
migrate
backup
sites.
Did
you
believe
the
the
value
proposition
there
is
to
remove
the
fear
of
lockout,
which,
which
I
would
assume
all
the
Drupal
7
sites
that
I'm
trying
to
collect
here
would
have
like?
Oh
my
god,
you
know
what,
if
this
platform
dies,
I
mean
what
happens
next.
B
So
if
we
can
convince
Li,
say
you
know
come
on
in
because
there's
a
nice
exit
door
like
like,
if
you,
if
you
come
into
backdrop
and
you
decide
that
you
regret
that
here's-
the
path
that
you
blade
our
best
wishes,
no
worse,
I,
think
actually,
if
both
of
these
things
come
together,
they'll
find
it
the
easiest
way
to
migrate.
Drupal
eight
would
be
to
migrate
via
backdrop.
You
go
to
backdrop.
Your
views
get
translated,
I
guess
that
won't
translate
the
true
place.
So
maybe
that's
not
really
correct,
but
but
I
have
a
thought.
B
A
And
I'm
not
sure,
like
I,
think
if,
if
all
it
was,
was
taking
the
PHP
and
exporting
it
to
llamo,
they
would
have
done
it.
I
think
there's
probably
some
underlying
our
architectural
change
in
hues
that
made
that
not
possible
in
the
same
way
that
it
was
possible
for
us
to
do
it
and
I,
don't
know
what
that
is.
But
my
instinct
is
that,
like
our
views,
upgrade
paths
Nate
did
it
in
like
a
day.
A
F
A
B
But
I
I
mean
I
was
actually
on
the
p8
migration
committee
for
a
brief
period,
I
went
a
dozen
meetings
and
got
to
know
them.
I
didn't
stick
it
out,
but
at
the
time
they
seem
to
be
really
focused
on
a
lot
of
the
edge
cases
and
and
from
my
perspective
could
80/20
rule
you
could
be
like
well
screw
the
edge
cases
you
know
get
they
get
most
of
it
and
I'm
not
sure.
A
C
A
C
C
A
It
was
pretty
good,
so
I
went
to
enough
for
sessions
in
the
morning
and
then
in
the
afternoon,
and
there
were
maybe
15
people
in
every
session.
I
was
in
in
the
zoom
list
anyway,
and
so
I
don't
know.
I
know
they
also
were
gonna
push
them
all
to
YouTube,
so
I
don't
know
if
they
did
that
live
or
not,
and
there
could
have
been
people
watching
and
not
in
the
meetings.
I
think.
Maybe
they
didn't
think
that
was
coming
later,
but
they
had
four
sessions
at
every
slot,
three
or
four
in
every
slot.
A
C
A
A
Like
to
do
that,
let's
helping
you
on
do
it,
then
we
can
talk
about
okay,
what
what
we
should
present
honor
collaborate.
However
right,
okay!
Well,
let's
go
ahead
and
wrap
up
this
meeting
and
we
will
start
the
next
one
shortly
so
see
many
of
you
in
a
moment.
Okay,.