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From YouTube: Backdrop Outreach - Dec 10th 2020
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A
Welcome
everybody
to
our
outreach
meeting
for
december
10th,
I
mentioned
before
we
turned
on
the
video
mentioned
again.
We
are
recording
this
and
streaming
it
in
theory,
live
on
youtube.
So
if
you
want
to
stay
muted
or
hide
your
camera,
please
go
ahead.
A
On
the
other
hand,
everybody's
welcome
to
participate
and
and
to
have
their
cameras
on,
let's
just
start
with
our
introductions
and
ask
everybody
to
quickly
say
who
they
are
where
they're
from
and
just
if
they
want
to
share
a
short
tidbit
about
what
they're
working
on
or
what's
going
on
and
when
you're
done.
Please
call
on
someone
else
and
gregory.
You
want
to
go
first.
C
Hi,
my
name
is
greg.
I'm
currently
joined
from
greece,
usually
in
australia,
and
I
haven't
joined
in
like
three
weeks,
so
I'm
interested
to
catch
up
on
things
again
and
help
wherever
I
can
and
then
look.
D
I
originally
joined
the
backdrop
project
because
I
thought
that
drupal
was
not
reaching
out
to
a
big
segment
as
much
as
it
should,
and
so
I'm
very
you
know,
driven
to
be
in
the
in
the
outreach
meeting,
and
I
finally
have
some
some
progress
report
today.
Listen
to
matthias.
E
G
G
Sorry
about
that
phil
ward
out
of
wichita
kansas
here
to
kind
of
see
how
I
can
help
with
you
know
trying
to
get
some
outreach
stuff,
I've,
13
plus
years
with
drupal
and
and
beginning
to
move
to
backdrop
as
long
term.
So
you
know
I
want
to
see
where
I
can
help
out
and
try
and
capture
more
of
our
drupal
brothers
and
sisters,
and
you
know
bring
them
over
to
backdrop.
So,
okay,
so
who
we
got
it's
a
varsity.
H
Artificially
yeah,
my
interest
is
in
creating
a
beginner's
guide
to
backdrop
for
newbies
to
backdrop
and
to
cms's
in
general,
something
that
is
a
good
starter
place
for
people
to
see
how
it's
all
put
together.
I
B
Hi
sorry,
I'm
jen
lampton
calling
from
oakland
california.
I
am
very
busy
this
week,
but
you're
in
spirit.
Let's
see
greg,
have
you
gone
already?
I.
A
Yeah,
I'm
tim
erickson,
I'm
here
in
deerwood
minnesota
today,
and
I
am
also
having
a
really
busy
couple
of
weeks
so
having
a
hard
time
keeping
up
with
my
backdrop
stuff,
but
we've
gotten
a
few
things
done
this
week.
So
looking
forward
to
this
meeting,
so
we
have.
A
A
list
of
things
a
preset
agenda
here
or
that
we
sort
of
go
through
every
time
and
I'd
like
to
kind
of
skip
over
that
we
or
or
skim
through
it
quickly.
We
have
a
couple
of
things
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
today,
a
little
bit
about
analytics,
maybe
and
sarvashri
mentioned
this.
Video
and
phil
wanted
to
bring
up
telemetry
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
at
least
touch
on
each
of
those
things.
A
Some
of
the
things
that
we
that
I
think
we
need
to
do
every
week
is
or
every
at
every
outreach
meeting
is
check
our
dashboard
announcements
that
we
have,
and
I
just
opened
that
up
and
I
feel
like
we
talked
last
time
we
talked
about
this.
I
was
supposed
to
update
those
and
I
didn't,
but
I
will
try
again
today
after
this
meeting,
but
I'm
just
looking
for
suggestions
on
anything
news
newsworthy
that
should
go
into
the
the
the
the
notifications
feed
that
shows
up
on
the
dashboard
for
backdrop
sites.
A
So
we
do
have
some
potentially
we'll
talk
about
this
in
the
next
meeting.
Some
like
sprints
coming
up,
I
think
for
the
end
of
the
release
cycle
and
I
think
they
would
be
good
things
to
go
there.
C
Just
the
the
the
code,
sorry,
the
feature
phrase
is
in
three
weeks,
so
maybe
we're
going
to
call
people
to
action
if
they
want
to
take
things.
A
Exactly
I
think
that
would
be
the
obvious
one
if
anybody
else
can
think
of
anything
else
that
should
go
into
that.
I
think
we've
been
doing
not
a
well
okay.
It's
mostly
been
me.
I've
been
doing
not
so
great
a
job
the
last
month
or
two
overall,
I'm
I'm
fairly
pleased
that
that
that
hasn't
been
too
stagnant.
A
One
of
the
things
we
don't
want
to
do
is
let
that
bankrupt
news
like
be
six
months
out
of
date,
because
that
just
looks
bad
and
I
don't
think
we've
gotten
there
yet,
but
we're
we're
getting
close.
If
we
don't
get
some
updates
today,.
A
Also,
I
I'll
just
mention
I
do
I've
also
not
been
tweeting
as
much
as
I
normally
do
lately.
If
anybody
has
any
thoughts
on
things
that
we
should
be
tweeting
about,
please
let
me
know
we
also,
during
the
the
backdrop
live
promotion
period.
We
started
to
use
our
facebook
page
some,
but
we
really
haven't
been
keeping
that
up
to
date,
so
if
anybody
is
able
to
help
out
with
those
things
or
really,
I
think
if
I
just
if
somebody
said
hey
tim
tweet
about
this,
you
know
I
would
do
that.
D
I
I'm
the
I'm,
the
enthusiastic
facebook
user
of
the
group,
so
so
I
I
think
I
got
got
access
to
that,
although
there
was
still
we
were
so
trying
to
figure
out
the
the
thing,
but
but
anytime
you
tweet,
you
know
nudge
me
and
I'm
happy
to
pull
that
into
facebook
world
in
whatever
appropriate
way.
I
can
and
then
respond
to
comments
and
do
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
A
I'm
sort
of
skimming
through
we
have
external
mentions
is
something
else
that
we
promote
on
our
website,
and
I
know
some
that
there's
no
one
person
responsible
for
that.
It's
sort
of
randomly
people,
chime
in
if
anybody
sees
any
articles
or
stuff
about
backdrop
anywhere
on
the
web,
that
isn't
in
our
control.
A
We
we
like
to
link
to
it
on
our
website
and
let
us
know
about
those
things
if
you're
unaware
look
at
the
ex
the
mentions
section
on
the
backdrop.org,
let's
talk
briefly
about
videos,
that's
something
that
normally
comes
up
or
is
a
regular
part
of
our
agenda,
and
I
know
sarvashri
wanted
to
talk
a
bit
about
that.
A
I'd,
just
like
to
sort
of
comment
that
you
know
one
of
the
uncomfortable
things
for
me
at
all.
These
meetings
is
all
the
great
ideas
we
have,
and
sometimes
it's
just
a
matter
of
resources
to
get
them
done,
and
so,
if
we're
talking
about
doing
new
things,
I
think
we
should
be
thinking
about
like
okay.
What
what
is
blocking
us
from
getting
like
creating
more
videos
is
not
a
new
idea.
It's
like.
Why
is
there
something
we
can
do
to
to
push
that
forward?
That
would
be
really
helpful.
A
I
have
been
pledging
for
the
last
six
months
to
make
more
videos-
and
I
just
especially
lately
not
have
time
had
time
if
anybody
else
would
like
to
help
with
videos
or
yeah.
I
don't
know
what
what
do
people
think
about
that?
Sorry
did
you
want
to
say
something
about
your
current
need
or
what
you
were
looking
for.
H
What
are
you
using
to
create
videos?
Do
you
use
camtasia,
or
do
you
have
just
recorded
straight
through
video.
A
From
your
system,
so
I
think
this
is
a
great
point
I
think,
having
a
resource
for
anybody
that
might
want
to
do
this.
For
the
first
time
would
be
great,
and
I
think
I
don't
know,
I
think
we
might
have
like
an
issue
in
github
with
some
ideas
for
what
tools
to
use.
Personally
I
just
use-
or
I
did
the
last
time
I
did
videos
I
was
still
on
my
mac
laptop
and
I
just
use
quicktime
to
do
screen
recordings.
A
H
H
So
you
cover
an
idea
and
then
that's
one
section.
You
cover
another
idea,
maybe
three
or
four
different
sections
of
that
video
that
could
be
pulled
and
replaced
or
pulled
and
edited
so
that
the
videos
can
be
maintained
to
be
current,
because
that's
a
big
problem
with
videos,
but
people
like
to
use
videos
they
like
to
click
on
a
video
and
they
like
to
go
through
it,
they'd
like
to
be
able
to
pause
it
and
do
the
thing
on
the
side
and
and
work
through
it.
H
H
So
they're
talking
to
the
person
leading
them
through
it,
because
the
problem
with
developers
is
they
know
too
much
you
know,
and
so,
when
you
try
to
get
somebody
started,
it's
like
wait,
a
minute
ftp
everybody
knows
what
ftp
is
and
so
forth,
and
so
they
don't
know
the
lingo.
They
don't
understand
what
you're
saying
and
I
think
to
be
able
to
get
people
started.
H
D
H
D
So
so
I'm
looking
at
the
videos
that
we
have
like
I
went
into
oh
well,
while
we're
on
this,
I
I
went
into
the
the
the
the
backdrop.org
resources
tab
and
found
you
know
I
was
like.
So
where
are
videos
and-
and
it
seems
like
the
link
we
have
to
videos-
is
a
bunch
of
links.
D
There's
six
links
for
different
topics
that
pull
up
keywords
to
youtube
videos
and
just
just
clicking
through
there.
There
are.
There
are
dozens
of
videos
there
and-
and
I
I
think,
there's
there's
very
little
visibility
like
to
to
the
stuff
that
we
have
already
so
so
I
I
think
I
think,
a
very
low
hanging
fruit,
like
a
like
a
not
very
hard
thing
like
something
that
that
I
could
do
once
I
get
rid
of
other
things.
Is
it's
just
curate
these?
D
Just
just
you
know,
bring
them
surface
them
a
little
bit
more,
all
or
some
of
them,
so
so
that
so
you
could
get
savasary's
like
low
overhead
approach
to
it.
Yeah.
H
I
haven't
been
through
all
those
videos,
but
maybe
you
could
create
playlists
for
different
just
using
those
same
videos.
If
there's
a
playlist
for
beginners
getting
started,
you
could
pull
some
videos
into
that
that'd
be
something
to
get
started
quickly.
A
I
have
tried
to
tweet
about
them
from
time
to
time
and
for
those
who
are
kind
of
new
to
this,
like
a
lot
of
things
in
the
background
community,
we
do
have
a
number
of
sort
of
playlists
and
channels
in
our
youtube
thing,
and
primarily,
I
think
the
way
they
they
currently
get.
Curated
is
just
every
once
in
a
while
jen
or
I'm
mostly
or
maybe
gregory.
A
I
don't
know
if
you
get
into
that
every
once
in
a
while
and
move
some
videos
around
or
put
that,
because
every
every
once
in
a
while
I'll
stumble
across
a
video
on
youtube
that
isn't
listed
like
in
our
we
have
what
we
have
playlists
for
right
now
we
have
outreach
meetings,
virtual
user
group
meetings,
instructional
videos
featured
presentations,
design
meetings.
A
There
are
some
like
presentations
that
have
been
done
at
camps
that
aren't
in
any
of
these
current
playlists,
and
you
know
like
so.
If
you
see
something
like
that,
and
it's
not
currently
listed
in
one
of
our
playlists,
you
can
let
us
know
we
can
get
that
added.
A
I
do
have
so
one
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
just
talk
about
is
we
keep
saying
we
want
more
videos
and
talking
about
what
would
make
good
videos,
but
the
question
is
like:
what's
what
other
you
know,
the
obvious
thing
that
time
is
just
blocking
us?
How
do
we
get
past
that
do
we
have
any
ideas?
Is
there
a
way
that
we
could
do
better
recruit,
recruit
people
to
make
instructional
videos.
D
Well,
that
was
kind
of
the
implementation
of
my
like
my
seriously
curate,
be
because
anybody
coming
in
without
like
a
kind
of
a
comprehensive
overall
knowledge
of
of
what's
there,
it's
very
difficult
to
know
where
to
start
to
you
know
if,
if
you're
too
far
off
either
way,
it's
just
whatever
time
you
put
into,
and
it
can
be
considerable
time
is,
is
not
you
know,
there
is
not
going
to
be
all
that
leverage
here,
it's
hard
to
know
if
you're
duplicating
work,
that's
already
there
or,
if
you're
being
obscure
when
more
obvious
things
are
needed.
D
G
The
idea
came
to
me
to
create,
so
you
know
how
a
business
website
will
have
a
careers
section
and
it
goes
through
and
it
lists
jobs.
Why
don't
we
create
something
similar
for
the
backdrop
website
where
you
come
in
and
it's
kind
of
like
hey,
you
know
here
are
things
that
need
to
be
done.
You
know
we've
been
brought
up
in
the
community.
This
is
what
we
would
like
to
do.
I
think
we
also
need
to
extend
it
a
little
bit
further
than
just
say:
hey.
We
need
instructional
videos.
G
I
think
we
need
to
come
in
and
say
we
need
instructional
videos
to
do
this
specific
thing
in
views.
We
need
instructional
videos
on
this.
You
know
how
to
create
layouts
to
do
these
things
so
as
opposed
to
just
blanketing.
We
need
videos,
detail
them
out.
You
know,
but
also
break
that
page
out
in
such
a
way
that
it's
like
hey
from
a
programming
standpoint
on
core
here,
are
issues
in
core
that
we
we
need
help
with.
We
just
don't
have
the
resources,
but
from
a
programming
standpoint.
G
This
is
how
you
can
help
from
the
video
standpoint,
obviously
from
a
marketing
standpoint.
This
is
what
we
need:
hey
we're
looking
to
update
our
logo.
We'd
love
to
have
some
designers
come
in
here
and
offer
some
suggestions
and
help
with
you
know
from
the
marketing
side.
That
might
be
a
really
good
way
to
kind
of
get
some
outreach
just
within
the
community
itself.
G
That's
that's
one
thing
I
was
kind
of
thinking
about
bringing
up
a
little
bit
later,
but
now's
a
good
time
is,
you
know,
outreach
needs
to
not
just
be
outside
of
backdrop.
I
think
from
what
I,
from
kind
of
from
what
I've
seen.
I
think
we
could
also
do
a
better
job
of
doing
some
outreach
within
backdrop
and
trying
to
you
know,
communicate
with
people
that
are
already
within
the
community
and
saying
hey.
This
is
where
we
need
some
help.
If
you've
got
some
time
and
you're
willing
pick
it
up,
let's
run
with
it.
G
C
I
was
thinking
about
the
points
of
entry
to
various
resources,
so
we
the
main
menu
item
in
the
main
site,
the
bachelor
center.
The
dog
side
is
under
support
resources
and
then,
if
you
dig
and
get
to
that,
you'll
you'll
get
a
few
resources,
but
as
bill
said,
maybe
we
should
have
a
more
prominent
wanna,
contribute
thing
and
then
and
then
people
can
click
and
find
resources
there.
C
And
if
people
want
to
contribute
videos
same
as
cyberseries
now
asked
for
which
software
would
be
best
to
use
like
there
might
be
people
that
willing
they're
willing
to
spend
some
time
to
record
the
videos,
but
they
want
to
sort
of
like
that's
a
blocker
for
them
to
find
a
proper.
You
know
software.
Maybe
we
can
do
that
as
a
landing
page
then.
The
second
thing
that
I
wanted
to
say
is
that
this
has
been
on
my
mind
like
for
a
long
time.
C
We
have
some
time
until,
like
a
few
years
before,
d7
becomes
end
of
life
and
there's
a
great
there's
heaps
of
resources.
Indeed.Org
and
there's
a
user
guide
dedicated
to
d7
and
I'm
not
sure
when
it
becomes
end
of
life.
What
will
become
of
that?
Maybe
didot
will
decide
that
they
need
to
rebuild
the
entire
site
in
d8
or
d9
or
d10.
C
Now
that
in
combination
with
something
that
I've
been
mentioning
quite
often
is
the
the
australian
government
has
adopted
a
version
of
drupal
and
they
call
it
gov
cns
and
they
have
training
sessions
that
they're
they're
doing
and
they
also
open
source
the
resources
for
that
which
is
the
training
manuals.
There's
two
courses
currently
one
is
the
content
admin
which
is
entry
level
and
the
other
one
is
the
site
builder.
Now
these
are
mainly
text.
They
live
in
like
they.
C
They
they
actually
live
in
github
these
github
repos,
and
then
they
are
realized
as
git
book
sites.
So
people
can
consume
that
via
that
point
and
the
reason
why
I
mention
those
is
that
recently,
there's
10
videos
that
have
been
uploaded
in
the
content
admin
manual,
and
these
are
like
very
plain:
how
to
log
in
how
to
log
out
home
page
layout
overview
how
to
access
the
content
management
areas
short
videos
right,
but
in
general,
since
this
is
open
source
and
since
also
the
the
drupal
7
user
guide.
C
But
that's
that's
quite
a
like
it's
a
it's
a
big
chunk
of
work.
For
that
to
be
done
right.
Maybe
it
needs
to
be
an
initiative.
I
don't
know
just
wanted
to
put
it
out
there
I'll
share
the
the
link
to
the.
C
A
So
again,
I'm
really
interested
in
ideas
about
how
to
implement
all
these
great
ideas
and-
and
I
think
phil-
your
suggestions
were
sort
of
spot
on
is
like
that
one
one
of
the
things
we
need
to
do,
or
probably
a
better
job
is
reaching
out
within
our
community
and
in
letting
people
know
how
to
help
and
contribute.
A
And
I
it's
not
you
know
we're-
I
think
we're
doing
a
little
bit
of
that
already,
but
I
think
we
can
do
better
and
that's
something
I
keep
thinking
about
is
that
maybe
I
should
invest
my
time
in
focusing
more
on
getting
more
people
involved
and
doing
a
better
job
at
communicating
how
people
can
help
and
what
needs
to
be
done.
Rather
than
just
doing
things
myself,
because
that's
not
scalable
getting
more
people
involved
is
scalable.
That
makes
things
bigger
and
we
can
get
more
done.
H
A
lot
of
organizations
have
a
volunteer
coordinator
right
and
then
you
have
a
list
of
things
that
can
be
done
and
skill
sets
that
are
needed
to
do
those
things.
So
those
things
need
to
come
together.
I
think
really
also
deadlines
for
doing
things.
If
you
say
okay,
we're
going
to
do
one
video
a
week,
then
you
know
somebody,
whoever
the
volunteer
coordinator
might
be,
would
do
that.
C
Yeah
find
somebody
to
do
the
right
when
people
are
contributing
their
their
free
time.
It's
a
bit
hard
to
sort
of
like
impose
deadlines
on
them
and
sort
of
like
contributing
to
open
source
in
general
should
be
fun
the
moment
the
deadlines
come
into
play.
It
spoils
all
the
fun.
G
I
mean
I
I'm
not
opposed
to
deadlines,
but
setting
the
expectation
of
the
deadline
up
front
before
somebody
accepts
it.
You
know,
for
example,
if
we
have
this
page,
that
said
hey.
We
need
this
this
front
page
video
and
we
would
love
to
have
this
done
by
january.
31St
of
2021.
You
know.
Is
anybody
out
there
willing
to
do
this
so
kind
of
more
of
a
goal
deadline,
as
opposed
to
like,
like
you,
said,
greg,
you
know,
setting
people
to
a
hard
deadline.
G
I
agree
with
you
on
that
100,
but
sometimes
when
you
don't
set
the
expectation
of
when
it
needs
to
be
done,
it
will
float
out
there
forever,
because
you
know
people
are
just
like
eh
it'll
get
done
when
it
gets
done.
So
I
guess
maybe
kind
of
create
a
nice
little
blend
between
the
two,
so
yeah.
G
F
E
Sorry
yeah
go
ahead,
go
ahead.
This
is
the
reason
why
we
called
our
block
series
on
on
the
journal
where
it's
at
the
module
monday,
because
we
have
to
deliver
on
monday
and
two
weeks
ago.
We
did
deliver
no
problem,
but
at
least
we
were
we
have
discussions
can.
Can
you
write
something?
No,
it's
not
possible,
no
one
care,
but
this
is
a
good
good
way
to
to
get
people
working.
H
A
And
I
I
want,
I
want
to
congratulate
matthias
and
your
colleagues
for
your
module
mondays
and
your
success
rates
so
far.
You've
really
kept
that
going,
and
I've
been
a
bit
inspired
by
that
and
trying
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
sort
of
reproduce
that-
and
I
might
my
guess-
is
that
one
of
your
the
keys
to
your
ability
to
do
that
is
that
you've
sort
of
kept
it
simple
and
focused
right.
You've
got
one
thing
that
you're
working
on,
which
is
these
weekly.
E
Is
blog
posts
we're
talking
about
videos
right
now,
but
no
one
of
the
team?
Nobody
in
the
team
has
experience
on
that,
but
we
would
try-
maybe
with
the
first
german
video
but
based
on
use
cases
that
the
goal
is
maybe
how
to
create
a
calendar,
how
to
create
a
taxonomy
term
or
no,
maybe
not,
but
how?
How
to
create
a
product
overview
divided
into
categories.
A
A
I
think
the
same
for
blog
posts,
yeah,
it's
like
if
we
could
get
that
model
working
for
backdrop.org,
where
we
had
a
weekly,
any
kind
of
blog
post,
a
module,
blog
post
or
anything
on
a
regular
weekly
basis.
We
have
tried
to
do
that
before
and
ask
people
to
volunteer
to
do
different
articles
and
I
have
stepped
up
and
volunteered,
but
then
at
the
next
meeting
I
volunteer
for
three
other
things
and-
and
it
just
doesn't
happen-
and
it's
partly
a
discipline
problem
for
me,
but
it's
also
as
an
organization.
A
I
think
we
just
need
to
think
about
how
we,
how
we
manage
this
kind
of
set
expectations
and
and
help
people
get
things
done.
C
How
about
the
thing
that
I
mentioned
the
the
point
of
entry
to
those
videos
like
we?
We
have
the
videos
on
youtube
yeah,
but
but
people
need
to
really
look
for
them
or
know
that
they
can
find
them
there
sure
and,
as
I
mentioned,
linking
them
from
documentation
like
finding
the
respective
video
and
the
respected
documentation
page
and
saying:
oh,
you
know.
We
discussed
this
topic
here
in
in
our
handbook,
but
there's
a
video
about
it
as
well.
C
Here's
the
link
to
it
and
may
I
point
out
as
well
that
sometimes
it's
much
faster
to
just
record
a
video
than
trying
to
write
something
type
type
and
get
screenshots,
so
it
might
be
a
lower
sort
of
like
hanging
fruit
for
people
that
are
interested
in
contributing
recommendation.
C
H
G
And
can
we
just
embed
the
videos
in
the
user
manual
because
I'm
kind
of
looking
here
right
now,
honestly,
you
come
to
it.
It's
overwhelming
got
lots
of
text,
lots
of
links
and
yeah.
The
video
archives
on
youtube
is
down
kind
of
tucked
away
in
resources.
I'm
sitting
here,
looking
at
it
going
where's
the
video
you
know,
I'm
on
the
very
opening
page
backdrop:
cms
user
guide
getting
started.
G
It's
like
there
should
be
a
little
video
right
there
that
you
know
just
quick
30.
Second,
one,
two
minute
video
or
something
of
that
nature
that
somebody
click
on.
If
you
underside
bar
navigation,
it's
like
we're
going
to
focus
on
a
video.
That's
just
the
sidebar
navigation,
and
you
know
have
a
little
two
three
minute
video
on
that,
but
I
think
maybe
just
embedding
the
videos
in
the
user
guide
itself.
A
A
In
fact,
you
know
it
could
be
part
of
it
right.
Documentation
is
written
and
video.
I
think
we
need
to
move
on
to
some
other
topics,
because
we've
got
a
couple
more
things
we
want
to
cover
before
the
meeting.
A
So
go
next
on
our
sort
of
general
list
of
things
is
events
and
meetups,
and
we
don't
have
time
to
talk
about
this
today,
but
I
want
to
remind
folks
well
two
things,
one
of
which
is
that
we
did
decide
to
do
the
regular
backdrop,
live
events
and
that
we
did
at
a
previous
meeting
set
some
dates.
Tentative
dates,
sort
of
hold
the
spot.
A
Nothing
has
been
firmed
up,
nope,
no
particular
planning
has
went
into
these
yet,
but
on
the
the
events
for
backdrop.org,
we
have
the
dates
that
we
have
set
up
for
tentative
dates.
I'm
just
going
to
read
them
out
real
quick.
If
you
go
to
the
events
page
under
on
bankruptcms.org
under
news
and
events,
we
have
the
next
one
is
scheduled
to
be
march
13th,
and
then
we
went
ahead
and
put
july
10th
as
another
backdrop
live,
so
I
think
we
it
is
important
that
we
start
planning
those.
A
Yes,
it's
march,
13th
is
it's
almost
two
months
after
the
release
exactly
so
that
gives
us
time.
C
A
Yeah
yep,
so
one
an
overlap
with
with
videos
and
events
is
that
if
we
do
online
events
and
record
them,
we
get
video
content.
It's
not
the
kind
of
content
that
we
would
put
in
in
the
midst
of
our
documentation,
and
it's
not
quite
what
sarvashri
is
talking
about,
but
I
still
think
it's
valuable
like,
for
example,
our
virtual
user
groups.
One
of
the
values
of
doing
virtual
user
groups
was
that
we
recorded
them
and
anybody
could
watch
them
later
and
I
do
have
some
thoughts
on
getting
something
like
that
going
again.
H
D
All
right
all
right,
so
so
we
we
had
a
what
what
what
I
thought
was.
It
was
a
almost
breathtakingly
productive
meeting
on
tuesday
to
kind
of
look
at
the
the
reddit.
Where
initiative
in
that
in
there
we
moved
a
lot
closer
to
the
goal,
mostly
by
moving
the
goal,
a
lot
closer
to
where
we
were.
D
You
know
there.
There
were
kind
of
two
combinations
of
things
we
we
stepped
back
a
little
bit
and
look
at
the
the
original
purpose,
the
original
sort
of
driving
forces
behind
the
ship.
Should
I
do
a
quick
recap
on
what
it
is
like?
Does
everybody
here
know
what
it
is
or.
D
D
The
the
reason
the
the
philosophical
driver
for
this
particular
initiative
was
was
my
own
personal
observation
10
years
ago,
when
I
started
drupal
with
with
how
how
drupal-
and
you
know
backdrop
still
enables
you
to
do
almost
everything
needed
to
create
a
site,
except
for
make
it
look
nice
and
and
the
the
ability
to
affect
the
final
presentation
in
drupal
require
like
like
jumped
up
the
necessary
skill
level
to
do
sort
of
basic
obvious
things
and
order
a
magnitude
you
you
could
you
could
figure
out
everything
else
you
needed
to
do
to
get
a
drupal
site
working
like
a
week
and
be
pretty
good
at
it,
and
then
there
was
in
order
to
create
like
a
passable
theme
of
any
sort.
D
It
took
like
six
months
of
dedicated
work
to
get
through
it
and
it
seemed
like
this
gigantic
barrier
to
jason.
So
what
I
thought
would
be
would
be
a
good
goal,
and
I'm
probably
over
my
90
seconds
by
now.
It
is
the
ability
to
to
not
not
force
heavy
customization
on
somebody
that
didn't
necessarily
want
it.
I
I
wanted
to
give
this
we're
ready
to
wear
comes
up
the
idea
of
like,
rather
than
getting
you
know,
a
bespoke
custom
tailored
suit.
D
D
Unless
you
want
to
so
the
the
approach.
To
that
I
mean
one:
one
thought
is
to
choose
to
have
themes
that
are
that
are
ready
to
go
and
that
turned
out
to
be
a
less
complete
answer
to
the
question,
because
it
turns
out
there's,
there's
lots
of
other
factors
involved
in
making
a
site
look
nice
other
than
the
theme,
especially
since
in
backdrop,
we've
split
off
and
narrowed.
D
The
definition
of
theme
by
having
layouts,
for
example,
and
color
moduling,
you
know
various
other
things,
there's
other
pieces
to
it-
that
that
that
are
that
are
part
of
the
thing
anyway.
So
that's
we're
moving
past
the
the
description
of
the
project
towards
towards
what
we
realized
at
at
the
meeting
on
tuesday
and
and
we
went
through
and
realized
that
they
were.
D
D
I
had
pointed
out
that
the
that
the
themes
page
on
the
backdrop,
the
zms.org
site,
wasn't
very
descriptive
and
just
one
day
you
know,
jen
went
in
and
made
it
better.
So
so
things
things
like
that
have
been
kind
of
improving
long
and
and
we
ported,
I
think
joseph
did-
did
you
board
it?
The
the
the
theme
developer,
the
theme
switcher
module.
If
you
have
that
yeah
yeah.
D
Thank
you
that
actually
turns
out
to
be
like
a
huge,
critical
piece
to
the
puzzle
that
theme
switcher
module
is
now
on
on
tim's,
simple
site
and,
and
we've
been
prototyping
sort
of
a
website
to
show
off
themes
there
anyway
to
to
long
story
short.
D
What
we
realized
is
that
the
kind
of
prototype
sites
that
we
have
now
currently
in
simplo
is
awfully
close
to
an
mvp,
a
mean
viable,
a
minimum,
viable
problem,
something
that
you
can
actually
show
and
release
to
the
world
er
and
so
by
my
careful
and
dramatic
scope.
D
We
were
able
to
put
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
wanted.
That
seemed
like
you
know,
good
things
to
have
and
and
logical
pieces
that
should
be
part
of
it,
be
like
okay.
Well,
we
won't
say
we
don't
want
those
but
they're,
not
they're,
not
necessary,
they're,
not
blockers,
to
roll
out
their
their
the
progress,
the
project
in
order
to
really
get
the
thing
out,
and
you
know,
ties
into
documentation
things
like
that.
D
Like
there's,
there's,
there's
definitely
slippery
slope
like
like,
if,
if
you
don't
want
to,
if
you're
not
willing
to
release
it
until
everything,
you
can
think
of
this
finish,
then
you'll
never
release
it
because
there's
a
lot
of
things
to
do,
but
but
in
terms
of
a
minimum
thing
to
do
the
the
link
that
tim,
just
posted
there
to
a
site,
is
it's
like
two-thirds
of
the
way
there,
but
that
we
realized
that
that
all
we
really
need
to
to
have
like
a
useful
resource
is
a
website
that
has
a
short
list
of
themes,
description
of
the
themes,
colors
of
the
theme
just
so
you
can
be
like.
D
Oh,
okay,
here's
here's,
a
small
selection
of
choices
and
and
what
they
do
and-
and
so
so
that's
you
know
I've.
I
I've
been
working
on
that.
I
I've
got
content
types
and
things
like
that
are
kind
of
behind
the
scenes
there.
D
So
there's
not
there's
not
that
much
visible
externally
from
what
we
did
but,
but
I
I
I
think
I
think
the
end
is-
is
actually
pretty
close
inside
that
the
the
initial
minimum
viable
product
is
going
to
be
a
small
website
with
a
list
of
themes
and
the
ability
to
try
out
those
themes
with
a
small
set
of
sample
content.
D
You
know:
we've
got
three
or
four
pages
that
you
can
click
and
select
and
and
throw
them
into
different
themes
to
get
that,
like
aha
effect,
if
you're
not
familiar
with
it,
I
was
like.
Oh
that's
what
a
theme
does.
That's
that's
how
I
want
to
use
it.
D
I
can
start
with
with
one
of
these
and
and
and
I
think
we'll
be
pretty
close
to
a
starting
point,
I'll
I'll
say
just
one
brief
thing
and
then
throw
throw
it
open
to
any
kind
of
discussion,
but
I
mean
ultimately,
this
could
easily
be
just
a
handful
of
pages
on,
say
the
backdrop
site.
There's
no
reason
it
has
to
be
a
separate
site,
but
it
gives
us
freedom
to
fail
by
doing
it
somewhere
separate,
and
you
know,
if
it
succeeds,
we
can
roll
it
in.
D
If
it
doesn't,
we
can
ignore
it,
but,
but
I
I
think
I
I
think
we're
like
a
week
or
two
away,
assuming
no
squirrels
come
up
that
distract
me
to
to
get
something
that
we
can
roll
out.
C
A
Well,
I'm
concerned
about
time:
we've
got
one
or
two
other
things,
and
we've
only
got
seven
minutes
left
sure
I
would
just
like
to
say
so,
but
basically
yeah.
The
the
the
site
that
luke
is
talking
about
is
a
site
where
you
can
actually
just
switch,
have
some
sample
content
and
switch
between
themes
and
see
how
they
look,
and
I
think
somebody
raised
in
slack
today
that
they
thought
they
thought
that
the
goal
was
to
actually
get
more
themes.
A
And
I
and
I
think
you
would
agree
luke
that
that's
the
ultimate
goal,
but
but
I
think
that
what
this
site
is
is
a
step
in
that
direction.
Right.
It's
sort
of
a
tangible
deliverable
to
help
us
evaluate
the
themes
we
have
have
people
see
what
again
like
the
videos.
It's
like
it's
easier
to
be
inspired
to
create
something
new.
If
you
it's
easy
to
kind
of
see
what's
out
there,
and
I
think
that
at
least
in
my
view,
that's
how
I
feel
like
this
site
is
moving
us
towards
the
goal.
D
I
I
was,
I
was
about
to
draw
that
same
parallel
to
the
conversation
about
the
videos
that
that
the
act
of
curating,
the
existing
things-
and
you
know
not
just
listing
them,
but
but
I
mean
I'm
going
to
write
descriptions
about
things
and
try
to
like
find
out
as
much
as
I
can
about
them
and
find
sample
contents
and
things
like
that.
But
but
the
idea
of
understanding
what
we
have
now
has
has
two
immediate
benefits.
D
C
And
a
point
point
of
view
in
our
documentation
section:
the
user
guide.
When
we
talk
about
themes
and
layouts,
we
can
actually
point
to
that
resource
and
say
if
you
really
want
to
see
in
action
what
we're
talking
about
head
to
that
side
and
just
try.
Switching
things
and
you'll
see
you'll
understand
what
we're
talking
about
when
we
say
that
layouts
are
responsible
for
the
layout
or
the
structure
of
the
page
and
themes
are
responsible
only
for
how
for
the
callers
and
the
funds
and
stuff
like
that,
so
people
can.
D
I
mean
what
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
building
that
we
actually
didn't
talk
about
the
tuesday
meeting
but
seemed
like
an
obvious
extension
of
that
is,
is
that
built
into
the
descriptions
of
themes
links
to
existing
themes
so
that
we
can,
you
know-
and
you
know
you
have
to
find
those
but
like
so
you
can
look
at
a
theme
and
hear
it
described
and
see
like.
Oh
here's,
here's
places
where
it's
used.
I
can
actually
see
what
that
feels
like
in
the
real
world.
A
E
Alternatives
and
create
google
ads
and
put
them
on
a
kind
of
a
worldwide
campaign
without
china
and
africa,
and
we
got
a
pretty
good
overview
of
where
people
use
those
search
terms
in
google,
it's
basically
in
north
park,
northern
america,
america,
canada,
u.s
and
western
europe,
and
this
gives
us
a
good
basis
for
creating
new
ads
in
the
future
and
what
I
also
learned.
It's
not
that
expensive.
E
As
a
as
I
thought,
when
the
keywords
are
pretty
specific,
it's
it's
less
than
a
hundred
a
dollar
a
month
and
we
can
even
go
go
lower,
maybe
with
with
two
dollars
a
day
or
three
dollars
a
day,
and
I
was
to
be
honest,
I'm
not
prepared
to
present
that
run
out
of
time
today.
But
I
will
next
time,
let's
sure,
next
time
I'll
show
you
the
the
results.
Okay,.
A
Was
there
was
there
something
you
needed?
You
were
asking
right
before
the
meeting
about
getting
access
to
something.
E
I
already
got
to
chance
and
media
or
train
change
the
permissions.
It's
about
meta
descriptions.
A
A
So
I
think
we
should
mention
that
I
believe
there's
an
alternative
initiative
right
now
to
get
a
google
adwords
grant
going
right
yep.
I
know
so
help
us,
okay
yeah.
I
just
want
to
mention
that
for
everybody
else
that
they
know
we're
we're
working
on
getting
a
google
adwords
grant.
C
A
C
B
Yeah,
sorry,
there's
no
update.
We
have
been
bugging
this
up
for
freedom,
conservancy
about
their
legal
stuff,
and
I
open,
I
think
so.
The
way
that
their
system
works
is
you
can
send
an
email
to
a
specific
address
and
it
opens
a
ticket
on
their
side
and
so
because
we
weren't
getting
any
response
from
our
direct
contacts.
I
opened
a
ticket
by
sending
an
email
to
that
address
and
basically
said
we're
going
to
do
this.
B
Stop
us
if
you
don't
want
us
to
and
then
laren
had
to
create
an
organization
for
them
on
tech
soup,
which
I
think
is
the
governing
body.
That
does
the
verification
and
so
now,
unfortunately,
we
need
them
to
be
involved
because
they
need
to
do
the
verification
part
in
order
to
prove
their
non-profit.
A
Got
it
okay?
Well,
I'm
I'm
glad
you're
working
on
this
matthias
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
updates
on
it
put.
E
The
link
into
the
if
you're
kind
of
sorry,
if
it's
you
go
to
the
chat,
you
see
the
link
of
the.
A
Google
docs
and
if
you
could
hang
around
for
a
minute
after
this
meeting
mathias,
I
want
to
ask
you
a
question,
so
I
think
we
should
there
the
it's
time
for
the
dev
meeting
and
the
the
last
thing
I
feel
you
had
mentioned
wanting
to
talk
about
telemetry.
Are
you
going
to
be
able
to
stick
around
for
the
next
meeting?
A
Okay,
I
think
that
fits
on
that
agenda
as
well
and
maybe
even
better.
It
might
be
more
of
a
development
issue
than
it
is
right
now
in
outreach.
I
know
it
has
outreach
implications
but
fun.
Let's
go
ahead
and
wrap
this
meeting
up,
so
we
can
move
on
to
the
next
one
cool.