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A
Okay
tonight
welcome
everyone.
Welcome
we're
live
on
YouTube,
since
the
weekly
outreach
meeting
it
is
being
recorded
and
will
be
displayed
on
YouTube
and
I.
Think
I
may
be
having
internet
trouble
so
I
should
not
if
I
disappear.
Somebody
will
take
over
I'm,
not
sure.
If
that's
happening
again,
you
know
what
somebody
else
they're
talking,
that's
what
we're
just
looking
for
everybody
could
introduce
themselves
and
like
what
they're
working
on
or
what
they
brought
to
me
today.
I.
B
C
A
D
A
mute
button
gone
crazy,
Eric
and
I
am
here
to
ask
some
questions
about
New
York
City
backdrop,
event
get
some
feedback
from
people
and
start
getting
moving
on.
E
I'm
Brian
only
like
I
work
at
Penn,
State
I,
don't
do
a
ton
specifically
with
backdrop,
although
I
did
just
port
the
hacks
module
to
backdrop
today,
mostly
just
wanted
to
see
what
you're
all
up
to
I
think
we
have
tangentially
related
communities.
So
if
it's
out
of
scope
of
this
call,
I
would
like
to
talk
about
that
a
bit
at
a
later
point
in
time,
but
just
want
to
see
what
you're
all
up
to.
A
B
Last
week
or
since
our
last
meeting,
we
had
wanted
to
send
a
newsletter
out,
but
we're
running
into
some
problems
with
getting
access
to
our
mailing
list.
We
seem
to
accidentally
now
have
to
mail
chat
accounts
and
it
is
creating
some
drama
with
mail
jet
to
try
and
get
that
sorted
out.
So
we're
trying
to
work
on
that
and
I
will
continue
pushing
on
that
today.
B
To
hopefully
we
get
that
unlocked
blog
posts,
we
have
a
ton
of
new
draft
blog
posts
up
on
the
website,
which
is
fantastic,
I've
even
seen
some
draft
posts
that
aren't
on
the
website,
so
I
think
we're
gonna
have
an
excellent
backlog
of
posts
to
schedule
which
is
really
exciting,
so
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
that,
there's
the
I've
seen
a
draft
of
things
we
can
talk
about
today
for
about
planning,
which
is
really
great.
Social
media
tends
to
be
a
great
job
with
tweeting
stuff
for
social
media
over
the
last
week.
B
So
thank
you,
Tim
for
that
and
I,
don't
think
there
have
been
any
other
website
updates
and
other
than
content
in
the
last
week.
So
that's
what
we've
done
since
our
last
meeting.
This
week,
I
mentioned
the
newsletter
I
think
we
could
probably
start
working
on
a
draft
of
the
newsletter
in
a
Google
Doc
so
that
when
we
do
finally
get
access
to
it,
we
can
blast
out
as
fast
as
possible.
B
I
was
thinking
that
Jeff
would
be
based
on
the
blog
post
for
the
115
release,
but
we
might
want
to
put
a
couple
of
little
sections
at
the
bottom
and
I
won't
say
some
of
the
stuff.
That's
going
on
right
now,
so
when
we
do
send
it
out,
we'll
look
at
what's
in
the
blog
and
see
if
there's
something
so
you
just
want
to
link
to
to
get
people's
attention.
B
So
I
also
open
to
this
too.
We
have
a
lot
of
exciting
stuff
happening
in
the
world
of
backdrop
and
I'm,
not
really
sure,
what's
most
important
to
announce.
First,
we've
added
some
new
PMC
members.
We
have
a
new
cork
emitter,
Nate's
gonna,
be
stepping
down
from
the
PMC.
We
adopted
a
new
chat
platform,
there's
a
bunch
of
stuff
kind
of
all
going
on
at
once
and
I,
don't
know
what
we
should
announce.
B
First
I
was
thinking
that
chat
platform
might
be
most
important
to
anybody
in
the
community
who
you
know
hasn't
been
watching
conversations
every
day,
so
that
might
be
the
first
blog
post.
We
want
to
put
up,
and
then
people
can
go
there
to
talk
about
all
the
follow
things
following
things,
lis
notes,
and
so
if
we
announce
something
like
Nate
stepping
down
and
that
causes
panic
and
a
whole
bunch
of
people
flood
to
get
her
and
there's
nobody
there,
that
could
be
the
worst
possible
team.
B
So
I
was
just
thinking
that
might
be
a
good
way
to
do
it.
But
I'm
open
to
feedback
has
ideas
on
that,
and
then
I
also
would
like
to
get
information
about
all
of
our
new
leadership
changes
out
as
soon
as
possible,
but
I
also
want
each
one
of
the
people
to
be
able
to
say
what
they
want
in
their
own
words
about
the
thing
so
like
if
you're
a
quark
matter
say
what
you
want
to
say
about
being
a
core
committer
but
I.
So
I
want
to
give
everybody
enough
space
to
do
that.
B
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
like
space
those
blog
posts
out,
so
you
can
have
a
couple
weeks
to
write
it
review
it.
Whatever
it
can
go
up,
doesn't
have
to
go
immediately,
but
the
news
that
they're
there,
maybe
you
should
go
out
immediately
so
I,
don't
know
I
snuck
into
it
with
Gregory
on
chat.
A
couple
of
days,
though,
trying
to
figure
out
what
we
should
do
and
I
was
thinking.
Maybe
one
post
just
saying
these
are
all
the
changes
that
are
happening.
B
Keep
an
eye
on
the
blog
to
hear
from
them
later
might
be
a
good
way
to
sort
of
make
the
announcement
get
the
news
out
there,
but
then
still
leave
everybody
at
the
time
to
think
about
what
they
want
to
say
and
say
it
themselves
later.
If
everyone
thinks
that's
a
good
idea,
that
might
be
a
good
plan
forward.
B
We
also
have
a
couple
of
draft
blog
posts
that
are
sort
of
more
generic
website
stuff
that
I
think
are.
They
could
take
it
back
seat
to
all
the
exciting
stuff.
That's
actually
going
on
a
backdrop
right
now,
all
right.
Well,
that's
all
I
have
for
newsletter
and
blog,
which
is
sort
of
announcements
of
what's
going
on,
I
think
we
should
switch
to
event
planning.
We've
got
a
lot
of
events
in
the
near
future
and
a
new
event
that
needs
to
be
planned.
So
I
think
we
should
talk
about
those
next
antennas.
B
The
nonprofit
technology
conference
they're
having
a
big
meeting
at
the
end
of
March
in
Baltimore.
As
far
as
I've
heard,
there's
no
plans
to
cancel
the
events
they're
carefully
following
CDC
guidelines
on
keeping
everybody
healthy,
they're
gonna,
have
hand
sanitizer
stations
and
encourage
anyone.
Who's
sick
should
not
attend
so
I'm
I'm
still
planning
on
going.
B
We
have
our
first
back
drop
booth
there
and
we've
got
a
couple
of
people
volunteer
to
help
sit
at
it
and
spread.
The
word,
which
is
great
my
plan
this
week,
is
to
order
banners.
So
we
have
a
issue
in
the
back
drop
CMS
at
work
queue
where
Larian
has
made
us
a
draft
version
of
what
that
Boehner
should
look
like
so
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
order
that
as
most
recently
posted
and
then
also
another
just
cheap
like
banner
with
words
on
it
and
I
would
be
open
to
discussing
what
those
words
should
be.
B
The
banner
the
pop
of
banner
that
was
advertised,
but
we
have
pictures
up
in
the
issue,
doesn't
mention
Drupal
and
so
I
would
like
the
wordy
banner
to
mention
Drupal,
and
that
way,
when
dr.
pantry
will
start
to
separate,
we
can
still
use
the
pop-up
banner
and
we
can
throw
out
the
word
again
er,
so
the
cheap
one
will
be
sort
of
disposable
just
for
the
next
year
or
so,
and
the
other
one
should
be
usable
forever.
B
So,
oh
great
another
issue
post
about
that
in
Zula
later
today,
Drupal
con
I,
don't
know
if
Tim
can
talk,
but
last
week
we
had
talked
about
doing
tangential,
DrupalCon
backdrop,
events
so
maybe
Tuesday
before
and
Friday
after.
If
you
want
to
give
us
an
update
on
thoughts
there,
if
any.
A
Sure
I
don't
have
much
to
add
from
what
I've
said
already,
but
there's
new
people
on
the
call
so
I'll
quickly
summarize
what
we've
talked
about,
which
is
getting
a
venue,
is
the
toughest
part
about
doing
an
event
like
around
DrupalCon
and
I
had
hoped
to.
Maybe
look
around
downtown
I
just
haven't
had
time,
but
I
do
have
good
access
to
a
co-working
facility.
That's
on
the
light
rail
about
15
or
20
minutes
out
of
downtown,
pretty
easy
to
get
to
and
I
think
a
reasonable
venue.
A
I
was
going
to
share
the
link
to
their
website,
but
it's
down
today
for
some
reason,
but
they
have
they
have
a
during
the
week,
which
is
when
we
probably
need
it.
They
just
have
a
meeting
room.
What's
about
20
or
30
people,
we
could
access
the
upstairs
where
the
co-working
is
happening.
It's
right
now,
it's
not
very
busy
there
usually
I,
don't
know
what
it'll
be
like
in
a
couple
of
months,
but
I
think
it's
a
suitable
venue
for
a
small
like
a
training
or
anything
from
15
to
say,
25
people.
A
We
could
do
more
if
we
had.
If
we
were
on
a
weekend-
but
that's
probably
not
gonna
work
anyway,
so
I
think
you
know
we'll
have
you
know
we'll
need
to
pay
them.
Something
I
think
it's
going
to
be
very
affordable
and
even
negotiable.
So
we
should
just
talk
about
what
we
can
afford
now:
negotiate
with
a
bit
I,
don't
think
that's
gonna,
be
a
stumbling
block.
A
In
terms
of
we
last
talked
about
just
doing
like
it
may
be,
a
training
was
one
idea.
We
could
possibly
be
more
than
one
day,
especially
Jen.
If,
if
there
are
some
of
us
that
are
not
planning
to
go
to
sessions,
you
know,
and
if
it
were
a
small
group
of
us
and
well
then
we're
a
small
enough
group.
We
could
probably
just
hang
around
near
the
convention
center,
but
but
if
we
wanted
to
do
something
a
little
bigger,
so
I
don't
know
people
have
other
ideas.
A
B
D
D
The
I
guess
the
you
know,
big
questions
are:
when
should
this
be
so,
it
doesn't
interfere
with
other
things
are
already
being
planned
and
then
how
large
of
an
event
are
we
planning
for?
Is
this
ten
people
getting
together
and
sort
of
having
a
training
day,
hack
day
kind
of
thing,
or
some
sort
of
you
know,
hack
dock
thing,
where
some
people
are
doing
code
work?
Some
people
writing
documentation.
D
Or
is
this
something
where
we
want
to
try
to
bring
in
other
people?
Have
you
know
I,
don't
know
we
could
get
25
people
and
do
a
sort
of
very
small
unconference
style
event,
or
you
know
we
could
see
what's
happening
and
who
knows
how
many
people
are
interested
in
back
drop
right
now
in
the
New
York
community
could
be
andriy
people.
D
B
F
B
Related,
it
would
still
be
take
your
Drupal
7
site
and
see
me
and
Louis
back
job
in
the
course
there's
an
hour
and
a
half
or
something
or
it
could
be
a
more
high-level
like
introduction
with
like
actual
sessions
and
people
talking
or
it
could
be
something
with
a
bunch
of
like
breakout
groups
where
we
very
unconference
style.
Nobody
comes
with
anything
prepared
ahead
of
time,
but
we
just
kind
of
split
into
different
groups
and
talk
about
like
how
are
we
solving
the
problems
were
faced
with
today.
B
Everything
at
the
last
minute
and
I
think
that
that
might
be
sort
of
a
safer
way
to
do
things
at
this
point,
so
that
we
don't
spend
a
lot
of
time,
organizing
things
that
end
up
not
being
used,
but
that
doesn't
mean
we
couldn't
throw
in.
You
know
aspects
of
any
of
any
of
those
pieces
like
one
prepared
session
in
one
sprint
hour
and
about
breakouts
are
yeah.
D
Curated
and
unconference
so
there's
some
structure.
We've
got
a
few
things
that
will
be
of
interest
and
will
definitely
happen.
So
people
have
something
to
look
forward
to
and
to
know
what
they're
coming
for
and
then
everything
else
can
just
bubble
up
from
what
people
there
want
to
talk
about,
teach,
learn
and
do
a
kind
of
mix.
D
D
E
So
I
would
say:
I
jumped
on
mostly
for
if
you
were
gonna
talk
about
this,
so
we
started
our
own
events
with
hacks
called
hacks
camps
and
we're
sticking
purely
to
an
unconference
format
and
I
threw
up
a
link
in
the
chat.
But
what
we
tried
to
do
to
hedge
that
bed
of,
like
you,
have
people
that
don't
know
what
an
unconference
is
and
are
kind
of
skeptical
of
it,
particularly
if
you
have
in
an
academic
institution
I
found
that
we
had
ours
a
Duke.
So
we
had
a
bit
of
that
like
well.
E
If
I
send
my
people
and
it's
during
the
week,
what
am
I
getting
we
had.
We
had
two
keynotes,
which
is
basically
just
like
a
talk
over
lunch,
so
that
people
knew
there
was
like
an
anchor
type
of
a
thing
to
the
scheduling
we
did
form
the
schedule
completely
organically
as
a
group.
But
then
we
had
people
come
that
were
more
or
less
organizing
and
kind
of
came
up
with
like
well.
Here's
like
the
ten
things
that
I
think
we're
gonna
talk
about
and
the
link
I
sent.
E
E
We
ended
up
having
like
45
people
or
so
so
I've
been
told
you
can
do
unconferences
successfully
up
to
like
150
to
200
I
haven't
participated,
one
that
big
the
biggest
I've
been
in
is
like
80
80
to
90,
but
yeah
I
think
it's
a
great
structure.
It's
reminds
me
a
lot
of
moths
and
love,
love
going
to
them.
I
learn
way
more
at
them,
so
highly
recommend.
D
And
I
I
guess
a
little
background.
Just
so
you
all
know
where
I'm
coming
from
with
it.
I
should
let,
with
this
I
yeah
I've
got
experience,
organizing
Drupal
camps
on
conferences
and
things
like
that.
I
was
one
of
the
primary
organizers
of
ten
New
York
City
Drupal
camps
and
a
whole
bunch
of
other
things
and
really
like
the
the
process
and
how
it
works
and
how
it
manages
to
bring
communities
together
and
I.
Think
a
whole
bunch
of
us
have
had
various
experience
on
that
level.
D
So
I
think
organizing
something
like
that.
We
all
have
the
foundation
to
know
what
we're
talking
about,
and
it
would
be
really
simple
from
my
end
as
a
person
who's
offering
to
you
know,
spearhead
the
whole
thing
and
deal
with
logistics
and
make
sure
it
happens
and
organize
I
I.
Think
it's
I'm,
not
worried
about
being
able
to
pull
this
off
and
I'm
really
excited
everybody
is,
is
equally
into
the
unconference
concept.
B
B
B
D
D
D
Oh
mid-may
is
the
end
of
the
semester,
so
we
would
like
to
do
it
before
that,
so
that
there
are
students
around
Tim.
One
of
the
things
that
I
was
thinking
is
that
because
if
we
do
it
during
the
school
year-
and
we
do
get
a
bunch
of
students,
it
might
be
a
really
exciting
environment.
To
do
some
UX
focus
group
stuff
might
be
really
good
candidates
for
smart
people
who
know
how
to
work
their
way
around
some
system,
and
so
yeah
I
was
thinking.
You
know.
D
D
C
D
It
is
so
let
me
get
in
touch
with
the
venue
and
solidify
a
date.
I
would
hope
we
could
get
a
Friday,
so
we
could
people
could
come
for
a
long
weekend
and
then
we
could
maybe
do
something
else
more,
like
a
hack
kind
of
thing.
If
people
want
over
the
weekend
so
does
that
sound
good.
F
D
D
Passover
and
Easter
right
there,
yeah,
okay,
yep
yep,
all
right,
I
will
look
at
a
calendar
and
I
will
come
back
and
I
guess:
chatons
ooh
lip
with
people
about
it,
and
the
last
thing
I
really
want
to
know
is
who
is
interested
in
giving
some
time
to
help
make
this
happen.
And
what
might
you
want
to
do.
A
Sure
so,
I'm
willing
and
I'm
always
interested
in
helping
plan
things.
Events
a
lot
of
fun
conferences.
You
know
you're
a
supporter
there.
This
is
a
tight
timeline,
I
guess
what
I
get
but
I'm
willing
to
help
and
I
think
willing
to
try
and
make
it
a
go
and
I'd
love
to
try
and
get
out
there
for
it.
I
don't
know
if
I
can,
but
I
would
make
a
serious
effort
to
so.
D
B
C
B
D
That's
the
best
solution.
I
would
expect
given
the
short
timeline,
given
the
DrupalCon
issues.
Given
the
this
is
the
first
one
of
these
things,
we're
pulling
off
it's
gonna,
be
on
the
small
side.
I
would
expect
10
to
25
people,
but
if
we
get
50,
if
we
get
a
hundred
that
I
want
to
cap
it
it's
something
like
that,
but
you
know
we
can
dream
yeah
cool.
Well,
thanks
for
feedback
keep
going
formed.
B
A
B
I,
don't
know
if
there's
anything
else,
time-sensitive
we
should
tweet
about
Tim.
Maybe
we
should
brainstorm
about
how
official
we
want
to
make
DrupalCon
thing
and
if
we
want
to
start
promoting
it
so
that
people
are
coming
into
DrupalCon
might
be
able
to
have
it
on
their
radars,
something
to
do
on
Friday
or
too
serious.
I
could
do
it,
but
that
might
also
be
something
we
can
start
promoting
via
Twitter.
A
B
Save
the
date
Tuesday,
whatever
there's
gonna,
be
an
event
nearby
I
just
leave
it
at
that
and
then,
as
long
as
we're
telling
people
like,
there's
gonna,
be
a
thing.
There's
gonna
be
a
thing
then
later
on,
when
we
figure
out
what
the
thing
is,
we
can
be
able
to
think
gonna.
Look
like
this
and
then
oh
now
we
know
this
about
it
and
like
here's,
the
whatever
so
I
think
I'm
totally
fine
with
the
same
Tuesday
and
let's
just.
B
B
G
I'm
Greg
I'm
joining
from
Melbourne
sorry
I
just
jumped
in
I.
Look
okay
after
my
friends,
kids
this
weekend
so
I
come
to
the
agenda.
I
see
that
you've
already
discussed
that
in
--see
announcements
and
now
you're
in
triple
cone
right
discussing
what
yeah
I
have
I'm
not
attending,
so
I
have
nothing
to
contribute.
Just
what's
until
something
really
like
comes
up.
B
All
the
new
stuff
like
we
have
so
much
stuff
going
on
and
I
want
to
be
able
to
like
spread
out
the
announcements.
So
it's
not
like
things
that
happened
in
the
early
margin
and
nothing
until
like,
but
I
still
think
that's
important
to
get
the
news
out
with
me
about
all
the
stuff
that's
going
on.
So
I
was
thinking.
What
we
might
want
to
do
is
like
one
blog
posts
like
hey
everybody.
We
have
new
leadership.
These
are
the
people
on
see.
Mr.
F
B
G
B
G
That,
if
the
newsletter
was
in
a
form
of
a
digest,
it
could
be
linking
to
all
these
three
posts
once
they're
out
yeah
and
if
any
of
the
PMC
members
but
I
then
has
also
posted
and
blog
posts.
We
can
link
them
actually
from
what
we
can
edit
even
the
post,
that
we
make
the
announcement
and
then
just
for
each
individual.
One.
B
G
G
A
E
It
was
mostly
around
events
potentially
so
we're
trying
to
grow.
Hats,
oh
very
relaxed,
is
it's
an
editor,
we're
basically
trying
to
be
the
open
source,
non
corporate
alternative
to
Gutenberg
that
plugs
into
anything.
So
there's
a
backdrop:
plugin
there's
a
Drupal
7
8
plugin
whatever,
but
it
funnels
a
lot
more
functionality
than
like
a
CK
editor
does
into
the
browser.
But
it's
basically
CK
editor
type
of
capability,
so
saves
all
your.
It
makes
your
body
blobs
a
lot
nicer
anyway.
I
feel
like
so
I
hang
around
the
classic
press
community
as
well.
E
If
any
of
you
are
aware
of
plastic
press,
so
it's
a
fork
of
WordPress
and
I
feel
like
there
might
be
some
benefit
long
term
to
communities
of
our
scale,
and
you
guys
this.
Your
community
is
bigger
than
mine,
so
I'm
not
trying
to
lock
myself
in
there,
but
that
aren't
the
Drupal
level
and
WordPress
level
scale
of
actually
kind
of
going
in
on
like
events
and
kind
of
Co
marketing.
E
If
you
will
so
there's
actually
there's
another
hacks
camp
this
year,
planned
at
a
pareo,
which
is
a
larger
organization
and
it's
in
Michigan,
but
just
the
idea
with
like
a
pareo
that
I
think
maybe
groups
like
us
could
really
leverage
is
like
a
pareo
is
a
just
collection
of
open-source
communities,
and
so
when
a
pareo
holds
an
event,
it's
not
dedicated
to
Sakai
or
you
portal.
Those
two
examples
of
projects
in
that
and
Elms
is
a
project
in
that
as
well.
E
It's
just
like
hey
we're
having
a
meeting
and
then
anyone
from
those
communities
is
encouraged
to
submit
so
packs
camp
is
gonna,
be
taking
place
during
their
event
as
part
of
the
schedule,
so
that
it's
like
an
enhancement
proposition
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
put
that
out
to
to
this
group
as
well,
because
I've
been
trying
to
do
that
with
the
classic
press.
People
too,
that
we
have
a
lot
of
stuff
in
common
that
we
could
be
share.
E
You
know,
as
far
as
community
I
heels,
we
could
be
sharing
just
saying,
like
hey
here's,
a
here's,
the
spot
on
the
calendar
that
we
can
all
go
and
hang
out
and
then
yeah.
We
do
still
largely
have
a
lot
of
the
same
conversations,
but
I
think
we
can
get
a
lot
more
cross-pollination.
That
way
because
I
know
the
classic
press.
People
are
kind
of
in
a
similar
place,
as
you
all
are,
as
far
as
like
forking
from
a
larger
ecosystem
for
not
purely
code
reasons.
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out.
E
G
Yeah
I've
been
following
the
classic
press
sort
of
like
news,
since
it's
sort
of
like
wasn't
announced
and
with
there's
a
lot
of
similarities.
It's
the
same
costing
money
and
time
for
agencies
or
site
owners
which
is
driven
them
to
sort
of
like
fork
and
or
when
we
upset,
in
the
same
the
same
objections
with
how
the
the
leadership
the
decision
being
made.
So
so
there
might
be
a
lot
of
things
that
we
can
sort
of
like
discuss
and
exchange
ideas
on
how?
A
I've
been
really,
we
did
a
little
open
source
CMS
unconference
about
a
year
ago
in
the
Twin
Cities
I'm
interested
in
that
concept
of
not
just
meeting
is
a
single
project
with
other
small
projects,
so
I
would
be
very
interested
in
collaborating
on
something
I.
Also
Brian
I
think
we've
been
doing
a
virtual
user
group,
yeah
I
I've
seen
that
you've,
you
know,
worked
on
the
module
for
background,
but
to
be
honest,
I
still
have
no
idea
what
you're
doing
and
it
might
be
fun
to
have
you
demo
it
for
us
sometime,
yeah.
E
G
A
E
E
Well,
one
you
have
to
write
plug-ins
for
Guttenberg
in
react,
and
then
the
output
saves
in
this
interesting,
like
HTML
comments,
JSON
blob
format
that
then
gets
presented
and
saved
as
kind
of
a
derivative
of
HTML.
But
it's
basically
we're
trying
to
do
very
similar
things.
We
started
working
on
these
efforts
at
similar
times,
but
ours
is
built
on
top
of
a
technology
called
web
components
which
can
plug
into
any
platform.
E
So
backdrop
is
usually
one
of
the
ones
that
I
demo
as
far
as
like
hey
look
at
look
at
this
thing,
working
across
a
lot
of
different
contexts
and
you
kind
of
have
to
look
in
it
I'd
be
happy
to
do
it
demo.
Some
time
on,
you
know
a
different
call.
Tim
I
don't
want
to
hijack
what
we're
talking
about
no,
not
today,
but
another
time,
yeah
yeah.
B
I
also
was
really
surprised
when
we
first
announced
backtrack.
We
got
all
these
agencies
that
showed
up
its
supporters
that
did
both
Drupal
and
WordPress
and
those
are
not
the
kinds
of
agencies
that
we
usually
see
a
triple
events
and
I.
Think
that,
having
more
of
this
like
open
source,
CMS
style
event,
that
Tim
was
talking
about
or
even
something
that
might
be
like
a
classic
test
backdrop
event
might
be
really
valuable.
B
We
might
be
able
to
try
and
those
agencies
that
don't
feel
like
a
gerbil
event
is
a
place
for
them,
but
something
that
has
more
of
a
variety
of
software
that
they
use
on
a
daily
basis
could
be
really
coming
for
them
and
I.
Think,
like
you
know
the
more,
we
can
share
audiences
with
groups
that
are
in
our
demographic
to
like
nonprofit
groups
or
higher
education
groups
or
I.
B
B
E
Think
the
common
alignment
with
universities
I
mean
at
whatever
manhattan-based
university,
is
going
to
host
your
event
that
that
can
become
a
good
like
a
really
good
incubator.
For
these
things,
emerging
and
I.
Don't
know
if
it's
like
that,
big,
a
difference
in
the
way
that
you
positioned
like
marketing
an
event
but
yeah
like
a
classic
press,
word
prayer
and
I
sorry
classic
press
slash
backdrop.
E
Type
of
a
thing
could
be
compelling
from
that,
like
it
also
there's
a
certain
number
of
people
that
are
kind
of
getting
sick
of
the
tribalism
of
certain
communities
of
just
like
hey
I,
come
here
and
I'm
only
gonna
hear
from
people
in
Drupal
or
WordPress
or
fill
in
the
blank,
and
so
we
actually
positioned
hacks
camp
as
like
a
it
has
the
word
hacks
in
it.
But
we
didn't
talk
about
hacks
very
much.
E
It
was
mostly
around
web
standards
and
web
components,
and-
and
we
talked
a
couple-
people
afterwards
comment
on
like
wouldn't
it
be
cool
if
there
was
an
event
that
was
basically
just
like
web
standards
focused
and
repurposing
and
I
think
yeah
I
think
aligning
with
universities
as
the
space,
because
we
have
lots
of
space,
that's
usually
unused
in
summers
that
our
event
at
a
pareo
is
gonna.
It's
free,
I,
don't
have
to
pay
anything
for
it.
E
It's
just
you
know
globbing
on
to
what
they
have
going
on
so
and
similar
I
mean
I
would
encourage
you
if
it's
at
DrupalCon
being
able
to
carve
out
some
buff
of
tracks
during
the
event
that
you
can
also,
you
know,
attract
people
to,
but
I
really
think
hitting
the
hitting
the
higher
education
market
from
an
engagement
perspective.
Not
a
like
go
and
make
money
off
of
your
necessarily
perspective
would
be
big.
Just
because
I
know
there's
there
was
a
talk
at
Drupal
camp
new
jersey,
which
is
held
at
princeton.
E
That
was
basically
like,
hey
nonprofits
and
all
of
us
small
shops
like
what
the
heck
are.
We
gonna
do
and
the
fact
that
that
conversation
is
still
going
on
and
still
getting
accepted,
a
regular
basis
me
and
tells
me
that
there's
there's
an
audience
there.
That's
craving
to
hear
that
message
of
like
hey
you
like
to
check
in
on
backdrop,
and
let's
check
in
on
you
know
everything
else
going
on
cuz.
We
don't
know
what
to
do.
D
D
But
yeah
I
like
the
idea
of
that
sort
of
crossing
of
communities
and
stuff,
and
if
we
can
pull
off
this
first
small
simple
event
and
you
know
maybe
build
a
relationship
with
the
venue
to
be
able
to
you
know,
have
them
trust
us
and
be
able
to
do
a
larger
thing
like
that.
That
would
be
great.
We
used
to
have
a
relationship
with
a
Brooklyn
Polytech,
where
all
the
early
Drupal
camps
happened
and
other.
D
It
became
like
the
place
for
open
source
on
conferences
to
happen
for
a
while,
and
they
were
all
free
and
we
had
some
people
in
the
department
who
are
always
getting
these
things
in
for
us,
and
it
really
became
what
you're
talking
about
a
great
little
hub
of
of
activity,
and
then
they
decided
they
got
well.
They
got
bought
by
NYU,
and
then
they
decided
they
had
to
charge
real
fees
for
the
use
of
the
space
and
all
that
kind
of
dissipated.