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A
Looks
like
we're
on
air
so
today
is
august
20th,
and
this
is
our
community
outreach
meeting
slot,
but
this
week
we're
going
to
be
talking
mostly
about
the
backdrop
live
event
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
in
september
and
discuss
various
planning
aspects
of
that
before
we
get
into
that,
though,
let's
start
with
introductions
tim,
would
you
like
to
go
first.
B
Sure
my
name
is
tim
erickson,
st
paul
tim.
I
am
in
deerwood
minnesota
coming
from
the
screen
tent.
That's
not
a
fake
background
behind
me.
I'm
outside
and
yeah
I've
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
or
thinking
thinking
a
lot
about
the
event
in
the
last
week.
So
I'm
excited
to
talk
about
it.
B
A
Great
sarashi
wanna
go
next.
C
E
Greg
I'm
joining
from
greece
just
the
usual
question.
What's
going
on
to.
E
F
Coming
to
you
from
mostly
sunny
but
smokey
san
ramon,
california,
I'm
a
web
product
manager
and
I'm
super
excited
about
the
topic
of
today's
meeting.
The
the
virtual
contracts
or.
A
A
A
Great
and
then
I
am
jen
lampton
also
from
california
on
fire
this
week,
so.
A
Where's
the
fire
which
one
oh
okay,
there.
A
Biggest
one
is
near
santa
cruz,
california,
which
is
where
kristen
from
hook
42.
Usually
lives
is
like
10
minutes
from
her
house
and
there's
another
big
one
in
the
napa
sonoma
area,
there's
sort
of
one
north
of
us
and
one
south
of
us,
and
because
the
bay
area
is
like
a
place
where
smoke
gathers
we're
sort
of
getting
it
from
both
ends.
So
the
air
quality
here
is
really
terrible
right
now
and
then
there's
a
whole
bunch
along
the
east
too,
like
little
ones.
F
F
We
had
we
had
a
super
rare,
lightning
thunderstorm,
the
other
day
that
that
set
fire
to
somehow
do
the
dry
stuff.
So
that's
what
kicked
it
off
because
it
wasn't
pg
e
this
time
it
was.
F
A
So
california,
for
reference,
never
never
has
thunderstorms
in
the
summer.
The
only
time
we
usually
have
thunderstorms
is
in
the
dead
of
winter,
when
it's
cold
and
rainy,
and
it
makes
sense,
and
this
sunday
it
was
really
windy.
It
was
really
hot
and
we
had
a
lightning
storm
with
no
rain.
There
were
parts
of
like
just
like
lightning
coming
out
of
the
sky
and
hitting
the
dry
ground,
and
then
we
we
did
get
like
a
couple.
A
Little
tiny
bursts
of
rain,
but
it
wasn't
enough
to
put
out
a
fire
and
it
wasn't
enough
to
prevent
the
fires.
In
the
first
place,
it
was
basically
just
like
a
firestorm
which
was
really
bad
because
it's
fire
season
for
us
anyway,
and
since
there's
usually
no
rain
in
california,
between
like
may
and
october,
everything
gets
really
dry
and
just
turns
into
kindling.
So
if
it's
really
dry
here
and
then
you
have
a
lightning
firestorm
everything
catches
on
fire,
so
yeah
fun
times
so
yeah,
that's
exciting
in
california.
A
I
am
much
more
excited
about
talking
about
backdrop,
events
than
the
current
events
we're
facing
at
the
moment,
and
I
would
like
to
turn
this
meeting
over
to
tim
because
I
know
he's
been
doing
a
bunch
of
work
and
planning
and
thinking
about
backdrop
live.
B
Sure
so
I
don't
think
I
was
around
when
sort
of
a
date
was
set,
but
I
got
involved
or
I
sort
of
re-emerged
from
hibernation
a
few
weeks
ago,
and
there
was
this
date
on
the
schedule,
september,
18th
and
19th
for
a
backdrop
event
and
the
I.
I
don't
think
it
was
called
backdrop
live
at
the
time.
I
think
that
nate,
like
casually
mentioned
in
one
of
the
meetings
like
briefly
blurted
out
backdrop,
live,
and
I
just
started
using
that
and
no
one's
complained
yet
so
it's
it's
become
backdrop.
B
Cms
live
the
the
dates
are
september,
18th
and
19th,
and
originally
not
much
more
was
specked.
Out
than
that
I
started
I,
I
wrote
the
original
sort
of
blog
post.
I
think
we
decided
it.
This
is
a
it's
a
relatively
short
time
frame
if
we
were
doing
like
an
in-person
drupal
camp.
B
This
would
be
insane,
but
we
talked
about
this,
and
our
thought
is
that
if
we
keep
this
kind
of
unconferency
and
less
structured
or
fewer
sort
of
structured
presentations
and
more
discussions
that
we
certainly
can
do
it,
there
have
been
some
other
res.
The
drupal
camp
philly
or
cms
philly
they
pulled
that
off
pretty
damn
fast
and
and
I
think
they
had
decent
participation
and
it
went
fairly
well
so
anyways.
B
So
I
some
people
might
be
skeptical
that
we
can
do
this
in
four
weeks,
but
I
think
we
can-
and
it
is
it's
like
just-
it
would
be
like
four
weeks
from
tomorrow.
I
think
it
will.
The
other
thing
about
the
timing
is
it'll,
be
a
couple
of
days
after
the
release
of
1.17,
which
is
good
and
bad
bad,
because
we
might
be
a
little
bit
tired
from
the
release
but
but
good,
because
we
can
build
on
that.
B
That's
true
the
first
as
I
started
thinking
right
away.
Peter
said
so:
we've
got
dates
what
about
times
and
that
right
away
hit
me
with
the
perpetual
problem
we
have
with
a
very
dispar.
You
know
our
community
isn't
really
large,
but
for
its
size
it's
very
distributed
right.
We
have
people
in
australia
in
europe
in
like
equal
numbers
right
that
are
that
are
some
of
our
core
members,
and
so
how
do
we
do
an
event
like
this?
B
That's
sort
of
a
live
event
that
respects
the
schedules
of
everybody
and-
and
you
know
in
a
virtual
event,
in
theory,
we
have
more
possibilities.
There.
B
B
B
Should
we
should
we
have
one
big
block
or
should
we
have
brakes
and
my
initial
reaction
was
well,
we
don't
really
need
brakes
because
at
home
it's
easy
to.
If
you
need
a
brake,
it's
easy
to
get
up
and
take
it.
But
then,
as
I
started
thinking
about
this,
I
thought
well,
you
know
we're
not
locked
into
like
an
eight-hour
straight
block
and
so
trying
to
find
an
eight-hour
straight
block
that
fits
a
global
audience,
just
isn't
going
to
work.
But
what?
B
If
it
we
broke
it
into
chunks
and
really
stretched
it
out
out
or
even
around
the
clock?
So
we
did
sort
of
three-hour
blocks
with
with
three
hour
breaks
or
larger,
and
I
started
playing
with
the
schedule
and
I
can
I
have
kind
of
a
spreadsheet
set
up
if
it.
B
If
it's
helpful
to
visualize
this,
I
can
share
my
screen,
and
so
that's
what
I'm
proposing
is
that
we
actually,
instead
of
it,
being
one
eight-hour
block,
it's
a
bunch
of
three-hour
blocks,
sort
of
scheduled
at
different
periods
of
the
time
around
the
calendar
that
we
might
have
a
bigger
gap
in
areas
where
we
think
we
expect
the
least
participation.
B
B
Go
with
that,
okay,
so
the
other
big
thing
that
happened
is
is
I
I
said.
Well,
you
know
the
the
worst
thing
about.
This
is
not
with
with
all
these
different
chunks
of
time
and
people
participating
everywhere
as
we've
got
this
other
problem,
which
is
time
zones
is
how
do
you
announce
when
the
sessions
are
and
generate
right
away?
Sort
of
said
like
well:
wouldn't
it
be
cool
if
we
could
use
the
great
time
zone
converting
features
in
backdrop,
but
we
probably
can't
make
a
website
in
this
amount
of
time.
B
I
don't
think
she
said
all
of
that,
but
but
certainly
it
hadn't
been
my
attention
that
we
would
build
a
website
for
this.
B
I
you
know,
I'm
totally
comfortable
doing
this
in
google
docs
and
eventbrite
and
such,
but
when
I
started
thinking
about
that
schedule
and
some
of
the
other
things
we
could
do
and
just
wanting
to
I
sort
of
dove
in
and
have
started
to
create
mock
up
a
website
so,
and
I
think
that
also
helps
visualize
and
I
place
some
content
in
there,
which
might
help
give
an
idea
of
what
I've
been
thinking
and
also
the
kinds
of
sessions.
I
see.
B
I
realize
that
I've
made
a
lot
of
assumptions
that
I
haven't
talked
to
anybody
else
about
in
doing
this,
but
I
think
it
gives
us
a
great
place
to
start
talking
and
everything.
You
know
nothing's
locked
in
stone,
and
I
don't
want
anybody
to
feel
like
because
I
put
this
work
into
this
means
that
we
have
to
use
it
so.
B
Let's
do
a
screen
share.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
so
far
or
comments?
How
does
this
idea
of
doing
sort
of
a
global
schedule
sound
to
people?
That's
does
that
seem
yeah.
C
A
I
was
also
thinking
if
we
wanted
to
take
some
sessions
from
the
first
block
and
play
them
later.
That
might
also
make
up
for
some
areas
where
we
don't
have
as
much
content.
So
we
could
say:
oh
let's
take
this
session,
that
greg
did
and
block
one
and
put
it
in
block
four,
because
we
only
have
three
people
offering
to
presidential
for.
B
Those
are
all
good
ideas
and
I
I've
thought
about
them.
I'm
not
so
worried
about
not
having
content
unless
we're
trying
to
fill
the
certain
time
slots
in
the
wee
hours
of
the
morning,
but
I'm
not
worried
about
the
volume
of
content.
It's
because
of
the
sort
of
more
discussion
orientated
nature
right.
It's
like
I,
I
I
have
a
draft
schedule
and
let's
go
ahead
and
look
at
that.
Oh
can
I
still
yeah.
I
can
still
share
screen.
Okay,
I'm
just
gonna
share
my
whole.
B
Desktop
so
the
first
thing
before
I
go
to
the
website-
and
I
can
share
links
to
the
website
in
a
minute-
is
so
you
can
all
see
my
screen
right.
Yeah
is
the
spreadsheet
and
I
have
over
on
the
left
four
time
zones:
san
francisco,
new
york,
berlin
and
sydney.
B
The
the
red
is
from
10
p.m,
to
6
a.m.
You
know
the
green
is
sort
of
normal
work
hours
and
so
technically
our
dates
are
the
18th
and
the
19th,
and
so
I
started
thinking
about
like
a
48-hour
block
of
time
and
for
some
reason
I
ended
up
what
I'd.
B
Actually
you
know,
my
idea
would
be
that
we
may
be
actually
starting
late
on
thursday
night
in
the
u.s,
which
would
already
be
the
18th
in
in
australia
and
then
run
through
saturday
afternoon,
so
it
would
be
48
hours
roughly
that
we're
not
locked
into
that,
and
I
welcome
input
on
that.
But
that's
what
this
schedule
shows.
So
this
schedule
actually
has
us
doing
sort
of
our
initial
session
on
thursday
night
at
7
00
pm.
B
If
you
look
on
the
right
here,
these
are
sort
of
three
hour
blocks
and
what
I
did
was
originally
mapped
out
three
hours
on
three
hours
off,
but
then
I
took
the
the
the
great
there's
a
couple
of
the
blocks
that
just
didn't
seem
like
they
were
that
great
for
anybody
like
this,
the
very
next
block
is
at
1am
pacific,
it's
well.
B
I
guess
it
would
work
in
europe
and
in
australia,
so
we
could
use
that
time
slot
if
we
needed
it,
but
basically
I
blocked
off
two
of
those
over
the
course
of
the
48
hours,
but
other
than
so.
There's
two
nine
hour
breaks
right
now
in
this
schedule,
and
my
thought
was
if
we
started
seeing
enough
interest,
especially
in
europe
and
australia,
that
we
could
just
open
those
blocks
up,
but
that
we
not
try
to
fill
them
up
initially.
B
I'm
thinking
we
use
zoom
rooms
or
something
like
that,
and
this
is
getting
into
another
aspect
of
my
proposal
which
people
may
have
thoughts
on,
but
I
feel
like,
in
addition
to
I'd
like
to
have
like
a
backdrop,
specific
track,
so
that
there's
like
a
room,
that's
just
backdrop
stuff,
but
I'd
like
to
attract
folks
that
maybe
aren't
that
committed
to
backdrop
yet
to
explore
backdrop
and
I'd
like
to
provide
some
more
generic
content
right
so
non-draft
backdrop
specific.
B
So
I've
got
a
schedule
that
proposes
four
tracks
forget
about
this
help
desk
thing,
that's
a
different
idea,
but
it's
like
one
track,
a
backdrop
specific
one:
that's
just
sort
of
generic
open
source,
cms
development
not
specific
to
any
platform,
maybe
and
just
an
open
track
where
you
can
like.
If
any
of
the
other
tracks
get
full.
You
can
add
something
part
of
the
goal
of
having
these
tracks
be
limited,
is
again
to
make
sure
that
there
is
like
at
any
given
time
of
the
day.
B
There's
some
backdrop
specific
stuff
and
there's
some,
not
generic
stuff,
so
that
people
have
a
choice
and
then
I
I
also
threw
in
and
I'm
not
I'm
the
least
confident
and
whether
or
not
this
is
going
to
work
sort
of
an
issue
queue
which
is
was
kind
of
like
the
core.
What
did
they
call
it?
The
core
track
in
drupalcon?
B
What
do
they
call
that
the
screens
the
code
screens
were
no?
No,
the
the
the
sessions
that
are
about
like
core
core
conversations,
core
conversations
they
often
caused?
B
It
called
it
and
it
was
like
you
know
when
people
would
do
a
presentation
about
some
big
new
feature,
or
just
you
know,
sometimes
they
would
be
more
discussion,
oriented
or
but
really
targeted
at
contributors
and-
and
you
know,
oftentimes,
they
were
very
poorly
attended,
but
they
were
attended
by
all
the
core
contributors
right
and
they've
they've
sort
of
backed
off
those
at
drupalcon
in
recent
years.
B
I
think
saving
those
for
other
events,
but
I
like
them
and-
and
I
like
the
idea
of
maybe
being
able
to
do
something
like
that-
but
I'm
sensitive
to
that
it
might
be
splitting
us
up
too
much
so
but
anyway.
So
I'm
proposing
those
four
tracks
to
start
discussion
and
we
can
decide
that.
Let
me
go
to
the
site.
A
Before
we
move
on,
first
of
all,
I
love
the
three-hour
block.
I
think
that's
brilliant
and
I
think
it
will
also
sort
of
set
a
really
good
tone
about
backdrop
trying
to
be
considerate
of
people
everywhere,
which
I
think
we've
had
a
hard
time
with
weekly
meetings.
But
this
is
like
look.
Our
first
event
is
for
everyone.
B
A
Would
be
when
we
start
requesting
topics
just
see
what
we
get
and
if
there
are
enough
to
spread
it
across
even
two
or
three
tracks
and
see
if
we
and-
and
I
also
really
like
the
concepts,
you've
already
thought
up,
and
I
think
we
should
use
those
for
suggestions
so
that
people
can
choose
them
if
they
want.
But
I
would
also
say
like
look
if
we
only
get
enough
for
one
track.
A
B
I
agree
with
all
of
that
and
I
I
am
concerned
about,
if
I'm
not
over,
getting
really
ambitious
with
four
tracks
and
I
and
one
of
the
things
I
like
and
with
the
website
it
gives
us
the
ability,
which
is
we
could
start
with
just
one
or
two
and
have
some
of
these
these.
These,
like
this
set
thing,
blocked
off
and
then
watch
how
registration's
going
and
sort
of
add
space
and
or
tracks.
B
As
we
see
what
the
responses
but
you'll
you'll
notice
that
I
was
like
able
to
quickly
fill
in
this
schedule
and
if
we
go
through
the
schedule
sort
of
saturday
afternoon
in
the
u.s,
the
last
sort
of
eight
hours
is
a
little
bit
different
and
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
this
is
gonna
go.
This
could
go
in
a
lot
of
different
ways
like
we
could
still
have
sessions
during
that
hand
sprinting
or
it
could
be
more
focused
on
sprinting.
B
But
let's,
let's
come
back
to
that
discussion
later,
but
my
point:
what
was
my
point
is
that
I
sort
of
quickly
filled
in
with
just
topics
and
I
think
like
if
we
just,
I
think
we
could
I'm
not
saying
we
should
do
this,
but
we
could
fill
in
that
backdrop
track
with
topics
that
we
think
are
important
and
just
recruit
volunteers
to
facilitate
each
one
of
those
discussions
and
we'd.
Have
that
filled?
I
think
in
a
day,
so
that's
not
hard,
but
the
other
tracks
will
start
to
get
harder.
B
A
E
Okay,
yeah,
so
here's
a
thought
we
record
the
sessions
anyway.
So
the
idea
would
be
that
some
people
would
not
be
able
to
attend
at
seven
hours.
They
wake
up
a
few
hours
after
they
watch
the
recording,
and
maybe
then
we
can
facilitate
discussions
about
the
recorded
ones
so
that
if
there
were
discussions
and
people
wanted
to
express
their
opinion,
but
they
missed
it,
we
give
them
a
second
slot
at
some
other
point,
where
yeah
sort
of
like
a
part
two
to
facilitate
all
the
parts
of
the
world.
E
That's
I
don't
know
exactly
how
this
would
work,
but
looking
at
the
blocks
they're
spreadsheet,
it
seems
that
if
we
skip
sort
of
like
a
few
hours,
then
we
can
sort
of
like
have
a
what
you
call
it
a
part
two
of
a
discussion
that
happened
so
that
that's
one
comment
and
the
other
one
is
that
in
general
for
those
that
are
skeptic.
E
So
the
company
that
I
work
for
used
to
do
training
sessions
and
they
were
eight
hour
sessions
of
two
days
and
the
reason
why
that
was
happening
was
because
the
trainer
used
to
need
to
travel
somewhere.
So
they
couldn't
spread
it
out,
but
now
that
the
whole
coveted
thing
is
happening,
we
have
shifted
to
remote
training
sessions
and
they
switched
to
four
days
a
week
instead
of
two
days
and
doing
four
hours,
which
works
out
better
for
the
trainees
as
well.
E
So
we
had
very
positive
feedback,
because
if
you
have
a
person
or
a
group
of
people
sitting
in
front
of
a
screen
or
in
front
of
different
people
presenting
for
like
an
eight
hour
block,
it
becomes
tiring
at
some
point.
So
I
think
that
this
is
heading
a
good
way.
It's
good.
F
F
I
mean
it's
funny,
because
we
we
just
sort
of
drifted
backwards
into
like
one
of
my
pet
causes
for
a
decade
is
it
is
I
I've
always
been
surprised
and
frustrated
with,
like
drupalcon
and
bad
camp
and
various
other
camp
like
like
websites
and
interactive
things,
how
how
they're
always
kind
of
forward-looking
like
advertising
materials
they
get
right
up
to
the
event
and
then
just
disappear
and
and
while
you're
just
saying
gregory
about
how
it'd
be
nice,
for
you
know,
discussion
to
continue
like
I've
always
wanted
discussion
to
continue
forever
from
from
sessions
and-
and
it
seems
so
obtainable
like.
F
We
just
need
a
note
on
like
any
of
our
platforms
about
each
session
and
then
like
like
once
a
session
happens
that
becomes
like
the
the
thread
header.
They
can
go
on
forever,
like
you
can
discuss
it
until
the
end
of
time.
I
mean
you
don't
have
to
until
the
end
of
time,
but,
like
you
know
having
it
last
for
three
hours
or
three
months
it
it.
F
It
seems
like
like
if
we,
if
we
can
figure
out
a
way
to
get
it
to
last,
like
one
rotation
of
the
earth,
we've
got
ourselves
material
that
will
keep
living
anyway.
I
I've
always
been
surprised
that
that
hasn't
happened,
so
there's
probably
downsides
to
it
that
I've
never
quite
figured
out,
but
but
I've
just
always
wanted
that.
So
I
just
want
to
throw
that
in
there
just
now,
not.
E
Not
so
much
downsides,
it's
that
the
thing
that
you
mentioned
as
a
continuation
would
be
in
written
form,
which
is
what
we
have
like
the
chat
system
or
the
forum
or
issues,
whereas
this
would
be
something
direct,
but
there
would
be
people
interacting.
So
we
should
give
the
opportunity
to
people
to
do
that.
E
Besides,
whatever
follows
that
as
a
continuation,
whether
it
would
be
a
an
issue
in
the
queue
or
forum
forum
discussions,
but
yeah
yeah,
you're
right.
F
It's
an
interesting
product
idea.
I
don't
think
this
is
technically
possible,
but,
like
the
thought
of
videos
being
able
to
loop
and
people
being
able
to
add
to
the
videos
on
like
a
multi-track
format
later
on
would
be
super
powerful,
possibly,
but
I
I
don't,
I
don't
think,
there's
anything
within
scope
that
does
that.
F
B
Okay,
let's
look
at
the
website
to
help
envision
this,
so
it's
not
super
pretty.
I
think
I'm
trying
to
make
it
not
ugly
either
right
now
and
we
can
decide
how
far
we
need
to
go
and
prettying
it
up.
F
B
Doing
it,
but
then
I
yes,
I
went
ahead
and
did
it
fair
enough,
partly
and
and
partly
because
I'm
of
I
love,
organizing
and
facilitating
events,
and
this
format
is
exciting
to
me
and
I
would
love
to
create
a
tool
that
I
could
reuse.
So
I
probably
wouldn't
have
invested
this
amount
of
time.
If
I
thought
it
was
just
a
one-off,
completely
thing
right,
but
I
want
I
I'm
plus
I
just
haven't,
got
to
build
a
website
for
so
long.
I've
been
doing
all
this
other
stuff.
B
So
what
the
the
website
currently
does
besides
sort
of
present
and
I'm
using
my
simple
distribution
kind
of
to
build
it,
which
is
irrelevant,
but
I
I
currently
have.
B
I
went
ahead,
so
I'm
logged
in
as
a
regular
user
right
now
and
it's
set
up
so
that
a
regular
user
can
submit
a
session.
We
could
turn
off
the
scheduling
right
away
and
just
have
sort
of
suggesting
sessions
first
and
then
schedule
them
later,
but
right
now
it
has,
it
does
have.
I
I
uploaded
about.
B
This
is
four
tracks
like
eight
time
slots
or
what
two
six
time
slots
each
some
of
them
are
used
already,
but
right
now
in
theory,
a
regular
user
could
just
pick
a
time
slot
in
a
track
and
assign
that-
and
I
do
I
don't-
I'm
not
envisioning
personally
any
kind
of
selection
committee
at
the
most
I'm
I'm
imagining
that
we
have
a
group
of
people
that
like
keep
an
eye
on
the
proposals
and
maybe
offer
feedback
and
suggestions,
but
that
we're
not
in
the
business
of
rejecting
sessions
unless
they
sort
of
fall
outside
of
what
we
consider
our
scope
so
that
we
kind
of
let
you
know,
do
this
unconferency,
where
people
do
what
they
want
so
right
now
anybody
can
come
in
create
a
session.
B
I
I
had
a
sort
of
a
description
of
the
session
and
then
the
discussion
questions.
I
want
people
to
think
about
in
advance
like
how
to
stimulate
conversation
right
not
to
so
in
lieu
of
having
a
prepared
presentation
that
the
presenter
or
the
facilitator
at
least
come
in
with
a
handful
of
questions
to
get
things
going.
B
I
also,
I
think
that
it
would
be
nice
to
have,
I
think,
we're
going
to
need
some
presentations,
or
at
least
demos,
so
I
gave
everybody
the
option
of
picking
a
discussion
or
a
presentation,
and
then
I
put
this
with
discussion
to
really
highly
emphasize
that
we
want
people
to
be
able
to
talk
and
that
it
you
know
we're
discouraging
the
the
58-minute
slideshow
with
no
discussion,
but
you
know
we
might
want
to
do
like
an
intro
to
backdrop,
presentation
that
is
more
structured
just
because
I
think
there's
a
need
for
that
and
anyways.
B
So
users
can
come
in.
They
can
pick
a
time
slot.
I
think
right
now
you're
able
to
edit
your
own
session.
So
you
can
change
the
time
slot
again.
We
could
turn
that
with
the
scheduling
stuff
off
for
now
and
like
wait
till
the
last
week
and
at
that
point
open
up
this-
that
you
know
the
actual
time
slots
and
maybe,
in
the
meantime,
just
have
people
submitting
topics.
A
A
We
should
just
ask
them
like:
what's
your
what's
your
preferred
time
period
and
give
them
a
three
hour
range,
and
that
way
we'll
know
roughly
how
many
sessions
we
have
for
every
section
and
we'll
be
able
to
figure
out
whether
we
need
one
track
or
four
tracks
in
that
given
three
hours.
A
lot
of
time.
E
A
Also
think
maybe
we
should
be
careful
with
the
language
and
we
can
talk
about
this
later,
but
the
the
idea
of
a
session.
Maybe
we
should
call
it
a
conversation
just
something
so
that
people
feel
this
pressure
to
have
slides
and
I
think
that'll
so
that
it
doesn't
you
don't
if
you're
like.
Oh,
I
just
want
to
talk
about
x.
Then
you
come
with
us,
those
five
questions
and
you
go
but
yeah.
We
can
talk
about
what
to
call
everything
later
but
yeah.
B
Sure-
and
we
haven't
talked
about
registration
yet,
and
what
I
have
no
illusions
about
is
our
ability
to
like
do
event,
registration
and
payments
on
this
site,
just
because
we
need
to
get
that
open
within
a
day
or
two,
and
I
think
there
are
other
tools
out
there
that
are
better
than
this.
But
let's
say
we
used
a
tool
like
eventbrite.
B
I
think
that
we
could
have
a
role
for
like
registered
participants,
but
I'm
envisioning
like
up
front
that
maybe
anybody
can
log
in
and
create
an
account
here
and
that
we
just
manually
like
mark
who,
who
the
actual
participants
are
or
something
I
don't
know.
I
haven't
figured
that
out
yet,
but.
A
Could
be
something
we
could
steal
from
cod
in
drupal
7
and
just
get
the
registration
payment
part
done
and
if
we
hook
it
up
to
paypal.
So
I
have
a
open
email
thread
with
suffer
conservancy
I
haven't
heard
back
yet,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
they're
gonna
want
it
to
go
to
their
paypal
account.
But
if
we
hook
ours
up
to
like
our
paypal
account
for
testing,
we
should
be
able
to
switch
it
to
theirs
pretty
easily.
B
A
So
that's
kind
of
the
route
I'm
going
today
I
sent
a
follow-up
that
was
like
just
so.
You
know
we're
building
this
with
paypal.
If
you
don't
want
to
use
paypal,
let
us
know,
but
you
know
you
can
give
us
your
paypal
details
later
essentially,
so
we
can
give
it
a
try,
but
I
think
like
I
know
that
that
is
tricky,
but
I
think
because
it's
done
already
in
drupal
7,
it
shouldn't
be
super
hard
because
we
won't
have
to
build
it
from
scratch
and
I'm
I'm
willing
to
work
with
you
on
that.
B
My
concern
about
that
right
is
that,
like
we
were
talking
about
doing
donations
and
that's
like
if
if
this
were
a
one
price,
pay
this
one
price
and
then
you
get
registered,
that
would
be
relative.
That
would
be
pretty
easy.
I
wouldn't
worry
about
it.
That's.
B
That's
that's
possible
right,
whereas
if
we
used
eventbrite,
you've
got
multiple
ticket
types,
you've
got
donation
options
all
built
in
to
start
with.
So
that's
the
argument
for
it,
but
I'm
totally
willing
to
to
see
if
we
can't
get
this
doing
registration.
If
you
want
the
other
thing
about
eventbrite,
which
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
big
issue
is
that
you
do
there
is.
I
have
had
people
like
find
my
event
on
eventbrite,
that's
pretty
probably
pretty
rare,
but.
B
B
You
know
that
we
would
be
likely
to
get
many
people
that
way,
so
I
wouldn't
make
that
a
determining
factor,
but
it
is
a
side
benefit
of
being
on
their
site,
any
other
thoughts
or
questions
there's
not
much
more
to
the
site.
Right
now
I
have
like
a
little
faq
this
time.
Slots
is
really
just
an
administration
page
for
for
admins,
although
it's
right
now
public
to
users,
but
just
to
see
all
the
time
slots
and
there
are
there's
a
gen.
I'm
sure.
C
Yeah
one
thing
that
I
thought
of
would
be:
if
presenters
had
materials
they
wanted
people
to
download
and
review
or
a
summary
of
their
presentation
or
whatever
it
was
that
people
could
grab
and
go.
That
might
be
useful
to
be
able
to
download
various
things.
A
B
A
E
B
Yeah
I
just
talked
to
a
friend
about
this
yesterday,
in
my
experience
like
six
months
ago,
was
that
meetup
didn't
work
well
for
virtual
events.
It
was
really
structured
around
in-person
events.
I'd
be
shocked
if
they
didn't,
you
know,
make
some
changes,
because
you
know
to
make
it
better
for
virtual
events
and
get
it,
but
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
to
get
listed
on
meetup.
Even
if
we're
doing
exactly
here.
E
B
So
we
should
look
into
those
yeah
and
we
should
put
that
on.
The
outreach
for
for
publicity
is
one
of
the
tools
to
look
into
is
how
we
can
leverage
meetup,
because
definitely
we
go.
I
found
it
meetups
that
people
I
I
posted
a
backdrop
me.
I
did
a
background
meetup
a
year
ago
and
I
posted
it
like
10
days
before
the
event,
and
I
had
one
guy
that
walked
in
to
our
physical
meetup
that
had
no
idea
what
backdrop
was
he
just
found
this
thing
that.
C
E
So
the
other
thing
when
you
you
and
then
sort
of
like
followed
up,
are
we
discussing
making
the
payment
an
opt-out
thing
as
in
have
an
option
for
them
to
say
yeah.
I
thought
that
it
was.
It
was
going
to
be
the
opposite,
as
in
donation.
A
Yeah,
I
think,
in
order
to
make
sure
that
we
get
people
to
pay,
we
need
to
expect
that
everyone
will
pay
and
then
have
a
closeter.
That
says,
like
can't,
afford
to
pay
right
now,
for
whatever
reason,
contact
us
and
that
way
we're
not
just
going
to
get
people
to
like
click
that
I
don't
want
to
pay
option,
not
pay
and
then
not
show
up.
B
E
So
then
we
would
need
to
change
the
wording.
I
think.
A
We
can
we
can
work
on
multiple
things.
I
think
finding
some
way
to
say
that
this
money
is
a
donation
is
important
right,
so
the
people
understand
it's
not
like
going
into
tim's
pocket
or
whatever,
but
yeah
also,
I
think
making
it
really
clear
that
if
you're
still
welcome
to
attend,
even
if
you
can't
afford.
B
C
B
A
B
A
It
really
hard
to
plan
ahead.
If
you
know
that
40
of
the
people
who
chose
that
I
don't
want
to
pay
action
are
gonna,
be
there
so
having
most
people
expect
to
pay,
I
think
is
the
right
precedent
to
sex.
Then
you
know
your
num
numbers
will
be
real,
but
then
you
want
to
make
sure
for
those
people
who
really
can't
afford
to
pay-
or
you
know
right
now
or
whatever
I
still
have
that
option
to
be
able
to
get
in
there
without
yeah.
C
B
I
agree,
and
I
I
think
twenty
dollars
is
pretty
reasonable
and
and
I
and
I
you
know,
I
don't
want
it
to
be
too
hard
to
get
in
for
free,
but
we
can
figure
out
how
to
balance
that
right
to
make
that
achievable.
Yeah.
The
almost
free
option.
F
B
B
Do
do
we
need
or
would
be
we'd,
be
comfortable
with
something
in
this
range
of
design.
We
would
definitely
do
some
improvement.
A
A
I
think
you
know
as
long
as
it's
functional
and
not
hideous,
that's
really
all
we
need
it's
already
that
I
think
that
we
do
need
to
do
some
work
on
language
and
like
just
cleaning
up
the
session
submission
form
so
that
it's
less
confusing
for
people
and
I
think
that
all
the
stuff.
C
A
You've
already
built
is
really
important
and
we
need
to
keep
it,
but
I
think
it
most
of
it
should
be
admin
only
for
on
the
session
form,
so
that
people
don't
have
to
like
look
at
that
list
of
times
or
understand
tracks
or
any
of
that
in
order
to
submit
a
session.
And
then
if
we
can
get
their
feedback
on
that,
we
can
figure
out
how
to
put
things
in
the
right
slots
when
needed
sure.
B
Yeah
I
mean
I,
I
love
the
ability
that
an
individual
can
schedule
their
own
session,
but
when
they
should
do
that,
or
you
know,
I'm
totally
open
to
us
deciding
not
to
do
that
and
for
us
to
do
it
ourselves,
but
I
like
that
we
at
least
have
that
option
to
give
the
the
session
owner
the
opportunity
to
schedule
it
because
that's
more
that's
more
open.
You
know
unconference.
B
A
Yeah
but
yeah,
I
think
I
think,
keeping
everything
you
have
now
is
really
important
for
building
the
schedule,
so
I
wouldn't
want
to
lose
any
of
that,
but
just
trying
to
make
sure
that
what
you
know
joe
schmo,
who
doesn't
understand
anything
about
conferences,
would
have
to
fill
out.
They
just
want
to
request
a
conversation
about
something
it
needs
to
be
a
little
more
straightforward
for
them
or
maybe
just
have
defaults
in
there
or
something
yeah.
E
It
would
be
awesome
if
that
was
reusable.
So
what
what
is
done
for
drupal
south,
which
is
the
sort
of
like
the
collection
of
events
that
are
happening
in
australia
and
new
zealand.
They
just
have
a
domain
a.org
and
then
they
provide
sub-domains
and
people
can
either
reuse
things
or
create
their
own
sites.
E
Off
of
that,
I'm
not
sure
if
multi-site
were
separate
sites
with
the
ability
to
provide
some
domain
support,
but
now
we
should
provide
that
thing
in
the
future
for
like
when
people
want
to
organize
it's
a
centralized
place
where
people
can
so
like.
But
if,
if
you're
going
through
all
this
to
make
a
site
that
has
built-in
subscriptions
and
submissions
of
sessions,
then
yeah
to
save
others
from
having
to
redo
it.
B
So
I'm
I
mean
to
be
clear
and
transparent.
Again,
I
think
I
said
upfront
one
of
my
reasons
for
putting
this
time
in
is.
I
want
to
make
it
available
to
other
folks
in
some
way,
and
I
and
I've
envisioned
that
as
being
something
on
my
simple
site,
is
that
you
could
spin
up
a
site
like
this
for
an
event
really
easily.
A
I've
always
had
like
a
pipe
dream
of
doing
something
like
gregory
recommended.
That
was
just
events.backdropcms.org,
where,
if
you
wanted
to
run
your
own
event,
you
could
just
go
and
say,
like
you
know,
at
the
time
it
was
physically
based.
So
I
was
like
put
in
your
location
and
then
here's
an
event
website
and
you
can
do
whatever
you
want
with
it,
but
yeah.
Now
that
we're
facing
a
virtual
thing,
having
this
virtual
starting
point,
I
think,
is
even
better
so,
okay.
B
Yep
so
we're
running
out
of
time
before
the
dev
meeting
and
there's
probably
a
few
other
practical
things
to
get
to.
Let
me
try
and
remember
which,
which
bookmark
I
have
to
well.
I'm
just
gonna
go
back
to
the
agenda.
I'm
gonna
quit
sharing
my
screen
and
go
back
to
the
agenda
like.
B
So
what
are
what?
What
are
the
things
that
have
to
happen
in
the
next
few
days?
One
I
I
mean,
I
really
think
we
need
to
get
some
sort
of
registration
up
within
well
within
a
week
at
the
latest.
I'd
love
to
have
it
up
by
monday
or
tuesday,
and
so,
if
jen,
if
you,
if
you
want
to
talk
about
getting
registration
built
into
the
site,
we
should
schedule
that
and
see
how
quickly
we
think
we
can
do
it.
D
B
B
So
we've
got
a
fairly
sizable
list
and
I
have
been
you
know
getting
it
out
onto
twitter
and
facebook
already
in
the
last
week,
the
the
dates.
So
maybe
you
could
go
out
on
the.
C
Drupal,
seven
group,
you
know
if
the
drupal
is
willing
to
get
it
out
to
their
people,
especially
people
who
are
on
drupal7.
B
Right
like
one
way
to
do
that
would
be
through
drupal
planet.
I
think
if
we
could
get
somebody
who's
like
I,
I
don't
know
that
we,
I
don't
think
we
would
get
the
eff.
Any
official
group,
like
drupal
association,
isn't
going
to
necessarily
promote
it,
but
there
are
ways
like
it
yeah.
I
don't
know.
B
Right,
you
know
my
thought
was
if
we
had
somebody
that
already
was
approved
to
be
on
drupal
planet,
if
they
could,
if
they
did
a
post
on
it,
although
there
might
be
rules
about
they,
I
think
I
think
the
way
drupal
planet
works
is
that
you
get
up.
You
get
your
blog
approved
and
then
you
tag
you
put
a
certain
tag
in
a
post
and
then
it
shows
up
on
drupal
planet,
and
my
guess
is
part
of
the
agreement
to
be
in
triple
planet.
B
B
B
There
are
like
a
drupal
slack
channels
where
we
could
mention
it,
and
nobody
would
object
like
that.
You
know
twin
cities.
Grupo
has
a
slack
channel.
I
could
certainly
mention
it.
There
nobody's
gonna
care.
If
you
have
a
group,
there
are
some
groups
where
we
could
probably
mention
it
and
get
away
with
it,
but
we
gotta
be
careful.
E
Yeah
you'd
be
surprised,
others
like
channel
at
some
point.
There
was
a
triple
event
in
australia.
I
called
out
that
I
came
like
they
were
saying.
We
have
only
a
few
sessions.
We
would
appreciate
if
people
step
up
and
go,
I'm
always
happy
to
present
the
backdrop
and
then
a
person
that
was
residing
in
the
u.s
for
a
few
years,
but
he
was
an
aussie.
E
B
Away,
I
want
to
just
throw
out
this
crazy
idea.
I
had
that.
I
think
it
may
not
be
a
good
idea,
but
which,
which
was
to
have
a
drupal
7
track
at
our
event,
to
help
get
group
7
people
there,
because
what's
our
goal
is
really
to
bring
in
drupal
7
people
right
and
most
of
the
drupal
events
are
focused
on
drupal
8
now,
so
it
was
like
what,
if
we
had
a
drupal
7
craft,
there's
a
lot
of
reasons
not
to
do
that.
So
if
you.
F
Open
it
up
to
a
slightly
broader
range
of
outsiders,
like
I
want
to
type
in
like
end
wordpress,
but
it
can
even
go
past
that
just
you
know
my
other
cms
users
that
would
know
what
they
would
love
us
if
they
knew
us.
B
My
track
description
for
that
open
track
said
this
is
a
track
if
you
wanted
to
talk
about
other
cmss,
this
is
was
for
us
to
explicitly
say
it's
okay,
to
talk
about
classic
press
or
wordpress
or
or
drupal
7
at
our
event,
not
in
a
dedicated
not
in
a
track
like
specifically
for
drupal,
but
but
in
this
open
track
right
where
you
can
talk
about
just
about
anything.
If
you
want
to
talk
about,
you
know,
gatsby
or
whatever
that
you
can
but
we'll
have.
I
don't
know
we'll.
B
E
I
have
a
bit
of
an
experience
with
that
three
or
four
years
ago,
I'm
from
a
home
like
my
hometown,
is
small,
like
a
quarter
over
a
million
people
and
there's
a
pretty
a
few,
pretty
active
wordpress
members,
so
they
organized
an
event,
and
I
happen
to
be
on
holiday
because
I'm
usually
in
australia,
so
they
invited
me
and
then
type
of
three
representatives
and
then
also
what
other
cms
was
in
july
as
well.
So
it
was
a
presentation
of
it
wasn't
competitive
at
all.
E
So
we
all
took
turns
we
all
compared
similar
features
and
how
we
tackle
the
same
sort
of
like
problems
and
how,
for
example,
dropper
is
more.
You
know,
impact
structured
cornered,
whereas
wordpress
or
general
might
have
a
single
page
sort
of
like
structure,
and
it
wasn't
competitive
it
wasn't.
There
were
no
hard
feelings,
it
wasn't
really
better
than
you
or
whatever.
It
was
just
an
exchange
of
ideas
and
yeah.
I
found
it.
I
found
it
really
good,
so
yeah.
B
Well,
there's
I
I
over
the
next
week
or
two:
I
this
format
allows
for
some
possibility
of
experimentation.
Another
idea
I
had
was,
we
had
talked
a
while
back
about
doing
kind
of
a
summit
with
the
classic
press,
organizers,
and
I
thought
we
might
schedule
a
time
slot
during
our
event
and
specifically
invite
classic
press
folks,
yeah
and
say:
let's
do
a
public
meeting
between
us
and
just
have
that
during
backdrop,
cms
live.
Let's
try.
B
I
think
we
should
talk
more
about
that
and
decide
that,
maybe
later
now,
probably
what
how
do
we
want
to
meet
and
communicate
in
the
future
about
this
event
and
recruit
more
volunteers
to
help
us?
I'm
thinking
that
we
I
know
we
don't
want
to
have
too
many
zulu
channels,
but
I'm
thinking
that
this
event
might
warrant
its
own
zulu
channel
for
planning,
because,
as
especially
as
the
event
approaches,
I
think
we
could
having.
There
could
be
a
lot
of
traffic
and.
B
A
B
Yes,
it
would
be
the
backdrop,
cms
live
event
and
it
could
be
temp.
You
know
we
could
disable
it
once
the
events
over.
I
think
probably
we
want
to
have
well.
We
would
like
people
to
use
rule
up
during
the
event,
although
we
that
we
can
just
use
our
regular
channels
for
that
yeah.
Instead
of
pulling
a
bunch
of
lives,
you
can
call
it
events
and
then.
B
Okay
and
how
about
so,
I
think
we're
going
to
need
to
have
at
least
a
meeting
a
week
for
the
next
four
weeks
or
three
weeks.
Probably
is
all
we
have
to
maybe
not
maybe
wait
for
and
next
week.
This
slot
is
technically
the
ux
ui.
So
do
we
want
to
plan
a
different
meeting
and
maybe
do
it
in
a
different
time
so
that
we
can
better
engage
with
our
either
european
or
australian
colleagues.
C
F
Yeah
yeah,
I
know
I'm
I'm
I'm
muting,
no,
actually
the
time's,
not
bad.
I
I
just
you
know,
have
day
job
pressures
that
present
me
from
doing
like
more
than
one
hour
on
any
given
day,
really
in
the
middle
of
the
day
or
outside
of
that.
So
so,
just
just
you
know
not
not
getting
things
together
on
the
same
day
is
all
I
need
to
participate.
B
Well,
I
definitely
if,
if
we
go
ahead
with
this
global
thing,
I
definitely
want
to
have
at
least
a
meeting,
that's
convenient
for
our
european
or
australian
colleagues,
so
that
we
can
go
through
everything
with
them
and
prepare
them.
B
A
B
E
Ask
peter
and
olaf
to
sort
of
like
sign
in.
B
Let
me
look
at
my
chart
quick,
like
I
think.
B
B
B
A
B
B
I
don't
know
we'll:
let's
we'll
come
back
to
that
anything
else,
any
other.
So
I
I
have
the
other
thing
that
I've
done
is
created
a
bunch
of
several
issues
in
the
backdrop.org
issue:
queue
where
we
have
traditionally
done
all
of
our
community
planning.
So
there's
several
backdrop,
live
github
issues
and
that's
a
place
without
coming
to
live
meetings
that
you
can
look
for.
B
You
can
give
feedback
and
comment
on
and
participate
in
in
planning.