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From YouTube: Backdrop Outreach - Nov 1st
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Today’s outreach agenda: http://bit.ly/2CT2g8e
A
All
right
we
are
on
air,
it
is
November
1st
happy
new
month,
everybody.
This
is
a
meeting
to
check
in
on
active
tests
related
to
community
outreach
and
spreading
the
word
about
backup,
CMS.
So
on
our
agenda,
we
do
have
a
meta
issue:
number
442.
In
the
backdrop
semester,
org
Q,
that's
specifically
focused
on
improving
our
modulus
things
and
layouts
page
and
ran
into
a
couple
of
issues
either
in
the
summer
the
training.
Last
week
when
people
were
going
there
to
search
for
things
at
demos
and
couldn't
get
the
result
they
wanted
to
come
up.
A
It
occurs
to
me
that
there's
a
core
issue
and
backdrop
that
makes
this
search
weighting,
not
work,
that
I
ran
into
them.
One
of
my
client
sites
and
I
had
a
hack
that
sort
of
disables
the
thing
that
breaks
it
before.
That
I
should
apply
that
same
thing:
spectrum
semester,
org
to
make
the
search
leading
work
and
that'll
probably
help
a
little
bit,
but
there
is
kind
of
a
bigger
issue
about
why
search
weighting
doesn't
work
and
why
that
features
in
there
in
the
first
place.
A
So
maybe,
if
I
apply,
that
fix
and
put
a
link
to
that
issue
in
the
Gator
chat,
some
other
people
can
help
me
take
a
look
at
it
and
figure
out
what
the
right
fixes
are
than
just
commenting
out.
The
thing
that
breaks,
searching,
I
didn't
think
like
it's
like
so
I
thought
that
might
be
a
nice
quick
fix
to
make
backed
up,
see
my
stored
work
better.
While
we
work
on
all
of
the
other
things
in
442
that'll
improve
the
experience
of
selecting
module
students
and
lay
out
some
backup
core
or
on
practicing
story.
A
The
next
item
here
is
the
homepage
demo
link,
and
these
are
ideas
that
I
think
we
talked
about
in
last
outreach
meeting,
but
we
also
talked
about
them
a
lot
at
the
back
drop
summit.
Last
week,
the
short-term
fix
was
to
update
the
link
on
the
homepage,
that
used
to
say,
try
a
demo.
We
got
a
lot
of
feedback
that
that
was
confusing
to
people
who
didn't
know
what
Pantheon
was
or
who
didn't
have
a
Pantheon
account.
So
when
you
clicked
that
link,
you
would
get
sent
to
a
place
that
asked
you
to
create
account.
A
So
I
changed
the
text
on
that
link
right
now
to
say,
install
on
Pantheon.
So
anyone
who
does
know
what
Pantheon
will
at
least
know
what's
gonna
happen
when
they
click
on
that
link,
but
longer
term.
We
do
want
to
have
a
there.
This
is
try
a
demo
and
when
you
click
on
it,
you
want
to
be
able
to
try
a
demo
without
having
to
go
through
all
the
hurdles
so
signing
up
for
a
Pantheon
account.
A
So
we
already
have
a
view
on
the
site
that
aggravates
various
different
ways
to
install
a
backdrop
whether
it's
on
Pantheon
or
platform,
we're
using
docker
data
or
Pando
or
whatever
else,
and
so
what
we
want
to
do
is
make
the
button
on
the
home
page
just
say:
try
a
demo
and
take
to
a
demo
site
and
then
have
another
link.
That
says
see
other
ways
to
install
backdrop
and
takes
it
to
that
page
and
I.
B
Yeah
so
as
an
option,
we
could
use
tugboat,
which
is
lalla
bot,
built
products
that
we
would
be
able
to
have
like
a
perpetual
like
unlimited
license
to
to
basically
make
it
so
that
we
could
spin
up
any
number
of
arbitrary
sand
boxes
and
the
sand
boxes.
We
would
need
to
decide
how
long
they
would
last
and
configure
them
to
spend
down
things
like
that,
but
the
idea
of
being
that
we
would
like
to
make
it
so
that
creating
a
sandbox
doesn't
have
any
any
strings
attached
to
it.
B
Like
Pantheon
requires
you
to
create
an
account
and
then
obviously
they
try
to
convert
that
over
to
to
being
a
paid
account
at
some
point
in
the
future.
But
if
we
were
to
use
something
like
tugboat,
it
would
be
to
really
like
one-click
get
a
new
sandbox.
That
is
yours,
but
it
would
have
the
downside
of
that.
It
would
be
only
available
like
for
a
set
period
of
time
like
a
couple
of
days
or
something
like
that.
It
also
wouldn't
be
convertible
into
a
full
website,
so
it
might
truly
be
just
a
demo.
I
think.
B
It's
very
fast
the
weight
our
tugboat
is
intended
to
be
a
sandbox
creation
tool,
the
same
way
that
we
use
as
M
CI
for
creating
our
sand
boxes
when
we
create
for
requests
and
normally
what
it
does
is
it
kind
of
it
doesn't
clone
the
container.
It
does
something
really
strange
where
it
already
has
a
containing
they're,
basically
there,
and
it
makes
like
a
weird
like
alias
of
it,
so
you're
actually
using
the
same
container
every
time
and
then
there's
a
layer
on
top
of
it
where
it
applies
the
difference
of
the
pull
request.
B
So
when
it
does
a
poll
request,
it
takes
about
four
minutes,
I
think
but
I
think
would
be
faster
because
there
won't
be
any
differences
for
it
to
apply.
It'll
just
be
reusing
the
same
one
every
time
so
I'm
gonna
have
to
see
how
fast
that
is,
but
it's
gonna
be
less
than
four
minutes
I
think
to
spend.
B
Well,
okay,
I'm
getting
to
a
library
here.
What
would
really
be
ideal
would
be
if,
when
you
click
the
spin
up
a
demo
button,
it
would
give
you
some
kind
of
progress
indicator.
Saying,
like
you
know,
okay
I'm,
currently
setting
up
your
site
and
on
that
page
it
would
also
like
we
could
put
like
a
video
or
something
like
that.
That
was
like
the
marketing
demo.
That's
like
hey,
there's
some
stuff
about
backdrop
and
on
the
page
when
it
when
the
site
is
ready.
It
would
also
say
that
credentials
like
here's,
your
username
and
password.
B
A
Town,
tugboat,
okay,
so
one
thing
I
was
thinking
about
that.
We
could
do
too
is
that
if
we
could
have
the
install
whatever
like
randomly
set
a
username
and
password
and
print
them
into
a
block
or
something
on
every
spin
up,
that
could
be
one
way
that
we
wouldn't
need
to
have
like
an
intermediary
step.
Oh
interested,
just
like
here's
your
site
and
then
password
be
like
to
log
in
whatever,
and
then
the
blog
in
block
is
right
below
the
thing
that
says
username
and
password.
A
But
that
means
we'll
have
to
just
sink
that
config
file
for
the
home
page
or
whatever
default
layout.
Whatever
it
is.
That's
there.
D
I
would
like
to
bring
this
up
as
well,
so
so
here
in
Australia
that
we're
building
the
new
version,
v8
version
for
dumb
CMS,
which
is
a
big
thing,
and
we
are
also
building
training
material
and
we
would
like
people
to
follow
along.
So
we
were
looking
at
simply
testing,
which
is
something
that
people
out
of
people
use
and
it's
frustrating
how
for
maybe
a
couple
of
years
now
it
has
a
lot
of
issues
like
especially
distributions
and
not
being
spun
up
properly
sales.
D
So
anyone
who
wants
to
build
a
similar
platform-
it
in
theory
has
the
the
code
to
do
it
and
there
was
a
problem
with
reaching
the
original
maintainer
because
he
didn't
have
time
anymore.
He
moved
along,
so
he
didn't
want
to
work
on
it.
So
they
found
a
new
maintainer
and-
and
there
were
companies
that
volunteers
to
offer
time
resources,
but
that
ticket
has
not
been
updated
since
January
I
think
now.
D
D
Was
which
was
another
thing,
so
people
might
at
the
point?
We
didn't
have
this
NCI
thing
and
when
I
was
trying
to
sort
issues
related
to
the
Installer,
there
was
no
way
to
check
in
simply
test
me,
the
installation
steps.
So
if
I
wanted
to
troubleshoot
something
in
the
installation,
it
was
all
skipped
together.
I
was
just
taking,
so
we
need
to
decide
with
what
is
the
target
audience?
I
guess.
Would
it
be
people
that
would
be
interested
in
seeing
the
installation
process
or
we
just
need
something
that
people
sort
of
like
a
one
button?
A
Second
yeah
I
think
so
too
I
think
in
this
case
it
is
like
an
evaluation
tool
and
we
shouldn't
be
showing
them
like
the
developer.
Experience
of
what
it's
like
to
install
I
think
we
can
just
show
them
editor
experience
like
you're
logged
in
this
is
what
it
looked
at
it
existing
content
where
they're
not
even
giving
them
like.
You
know
it
should
be
a
finished
site
that
they're
getting
what
they're.
D
D
A
I,
do
like
honest,
though
your
recommendation
about
in
simply
test
me.
If
there's
a
way
we
can
sponsor
the
project
than
anybody
who's
using
simply
test
me
would
be
able
to
find
out
about
backdrop,
and
that
is
kind
of
an
interesting
marketing
angle,
regardless
of
whether
we're
going
to
use
that
tool
or
not
so
that's
definitely
something
I
hadn't
thought
of
before
well.
B
Also,
just
the
tie-in
here,
Matt
Westgate
who's,
the
robot
CEO,
has
been
talking
with
Adam
Bergstein
who's.
The
guy
who
took
over
simply
test
me
about
potentially
collaborating
but
I,
think
Adam
is
interested
in
going
down
that
approach,
but
all
about
is
has
also
made
the
offer
to
drupal.org
saying
we
could
also
be
the
sandbox
builders,
which
is
a
lot
org,
and
the
potential
is
greater
there
in
the
future,
with
Drupal
towards
switching
over
to
get
lab,
because
they'll
have
the
ability
to
use
tugboat
directly
that
way
so
so
there
might.
B
D
Yeah
in
that
ticket,
where
the
transition
of
the
project
maintainer
happened,
there
were
a
lot
of
people
that
I
didn't
know
back
then
that
actually
ended
up
CMS
like
in
the
government
here
that
were
involved
in
the
discussions
and
also
Chris
likes
to
Michael
Centro
from
amazing,
which
they
also
offer
a
platform
where
he
tapped
expenses
and
they
were
interested
to
help
as
well
as
I
said,
there's
no.
After
the
changing
the
maintainer
and
finding
a
more
responsive
person
was
step
one,
but
there
was
no
step
two
after
that.
B
A
Nate,
do
you
think
there
would
be
any
motivating
factor
for
someone
at
low
by
responsible
for
tugboat
a
tugboat
to
do
the
set
up
of
backdrops
demo
site
for
us
like
if
they
can
brand
it
at
the
bottom,
like
demo,
provided
by
tugboat
or
something?
Is
that,
like
a
marketing
angle,
that
would
make
it
worthwhile
for
them
to
do
the
work
for
us.
B
Well,
I
am
Not
sure,
because
so
they've
already
actually
set
up
a
backdrop
with
tugboat
it's
one
of
their
templates,
so
you
can
already
spin
up
a
backdrop
site
or
at
least
lose
the
template,
create
an
account
hook.
It
up
to
backups
repo
and
these
template
to
say,
install
backdrop
basically
and
that's
a
kind
of
as
far
as
tugboat,
like
that's
as
far
as
tugboat
would
take.
B
A
B
B
Okay,
so
so
the
trick
here
is
that
something
needs
to
kick
off
tugboat
to
create
a
sandbox
and
technically
that's
a
pull
request.
Okay,
and
so
it's
made
to
work
by
getting
a
pull
request,
and
then
it
sends
up
a
tugboat
instance,
but
because
we
are
clicking
a
button,
not
spinning
up
the
tugboat
or
not
not
spending
a
pull
request,
we
would
need
to
make
the
API
call
to
tugboat.
B
A
B
B
B
A
All
right
is
that
way.
We
can
test
that
process
to
see
how
long
it
takes
before
we
commit
to
writing
all
this
code,
because
if
it's
gonna
be
like
an
Theon,
we
probably
wouldn't
want
to
pursue
this
route
and
instead
use
one
of
they're
nothings.
We
talked
about
and
I
don't
want
to
put
in
a
bunch
of
work
to
like
writing.
That
yeah.
B
Yeah
the
trivial
thing
to
do
is
to
clone
the
backdrop
repo
put
it
in
a
new
repository.
That's
like
just
a
custom,
you
know
like
hey,
I've,
got
a
random
website
repository
and
then
hook
it
up
the
tugboat
and
then
see
how
long
it
takes
to
make
an
instance.
Okay,
via
github
like
make
a
Pollard
class,
can
see
how
fast
it
is
get.
D
I
would
like
to
take
the
opportunity
to
confess
the
the
reason
the
way
that
I
am
abusing
Zen
CI,
so
I
have
a
pull
request.
That
I
say:
please
do
not
touch
this
and
it
all
it's
there.
It's
just
a
dot
added
in
the
readme
file,
just
to
get
me
a
sandbox.
So
that's
my
easy
way
of
if
I
want
to
present
something
to
people
and
very
just
add
it
back
up.
D
That's
my
easy
way:
I
just
close
the
pull
request,
reopen
it
get
a
fresh
sandbox,
so
I
don't
know
if
we
could
get
something
similar
and
disguisers
immediately.
I'll
be
perfectly
if
there
is
a
roadblock
which
requires
us
to
file
a
pull
request,
it
can
just
be
a
dot
in
the
readme
file
as
a
hacker
or
something
yeah.
A
I
haven't
an
option
here
for
using
Zen
CI
in
that
way,
with
a
fake
pull
request
and
then,
if
we
had
some,
they
get
her
baby
I'll
go
API
called
it's
like
clothes
open.
We
will
just
need
to
like
find
a
way
to
read:
they
usually
the
password
of
check
or
the
password
it
generates
for
that
new
sandbox
site.
But
the
downside
of
that
is
that
we
only
get
back
to
our
core
and
I
think
for
a
compelling
demo.
A
We
want
a
completed
website
like
we
wanted
to
have
modules
and
themes
and
content,
so
I
think
like
for
now.
If
we
can
get
that
going
in
like
five
minutes,
that's
a
win
but
I
think
long
term.
We
should
pursue
something
like
tugboat,
where
we
can
have
like
a
starting
database
and
a
starting
codebase,
that's
more
complete,
so
we
could
do
that
was
NCI
in
theory
too,
but
I
think
it
would
be
just
as
much
setup
if
not
more.
A
D
E
Let
me
just
jump
in
and
say
to
that
in
terms
of
like
myself
help
but
I'm,
not
gonna,
be
the
one
that
write
the
API
stuff
or
something
like
this
thing.
If
there
was
a
way,
I
could
be
helpful,
but
I
found
that,
with
the
last
release
having
a
Saturday
with
the
time
where
I
could
schedule
a
couple
hours
and
people
were
expecting
me,
that
was
more
likely
to
help
out
with
it.
E
This
is
a
task
I'd
love
to
help
out
with,
but
I'm
much
more
likely
to
do
it
if
we
say
hey,
let's
work
on
this
next
time,
I
next
day
and
preferably
on
a
weekend,
unfortunately,
because
my
weeks
are
just
too
busy
right
now,
but
that's
that's
how
it
works
right.
If
you
give
me
a
like
let's
sprint
on
this
issue
on
this
day,
well,.
A
One
thing,
I
think
might
be
really
helpful
to
have
you
work
on.
Tim
is,
if
you
have
a
good
site,
it
would
be
an
example
of
an
example
site.
It
might
be
really
valuable
to
have.
You
spent
some
time
like
cleaning
it
up
and
making
it
like
public
friendly,
and
we
could
do
that
right.
You
could
have
access
to
whatever
repo
are
working
on
and
you
put
in
all
your
code
and
their
beams
and
clean
up
content
in
the
database
or
what-have-you,
and
then
someone
else
is
working
on
setting
up
the
front
piece.
A
A
A
Makes
sense
alright
moving
on
past
demos?
Next
thing
we
need
to
do
to
tell
people
about
Bach
top
is
write,
more
blog
posts,
so
I
think
the
most
urgent
one
we
need
to
do
is
a
bad
camp,
wrap
up
I,
don't
know
there
are
a
lot
of
people
there
I
want
to
see
me
meet
Mike
or
Jack
or
Wes
wants
to
do
one
of
those,
but
if
nobody
has
time,
I
could
take
a
stab
at
it.
We
also
need
to
do
a
couple
of
emails
about
the
Conservancy
those
are
sort
of
on
Nate's
plate.
A
At
the
moment
we
had
a
couple
of
security
issues
recently.
So
if
we
wanted
to
do
a
more
in-depth
blog
post
about
backdrops
security
process,
we
could
do
that.
We
also
got
a
question
via
email
recently
about
requirements
to
be
on
backdrop,
security,
team
and
I
think
that
might
be
worth
putting
on
our
security
page
just
like
how
does
someone
end
up
on
the
security
team
and
so
far
it's
been
like
anyone
who
specifically
asked,
and
then
we
said,
oh
yeah,
you
know
we
know
you
based
on
your
reputation
either
and
what's
been
doing.
D
A
Had
a
couple,
people
I
think
they're
just
generally
wanting
to
continue
to
sort
of
doing
a
bunch
of
checking
for
common
security
issues
on
various
interfaces
and
are
not
our
most
recent
security,
at
least
one
those
coordinator
poll,
but
the
one
before
that
was
somebody
who
just
found
a
problem
than
recorded
it
through
normal
channels
and
we
were
able
to
get
fixed.
So
we're
actually
really
grateful
to
those
people
who
are
doing
those
kind
of
audits.
A
On
backdrop
you
know,
and
if
we
can
have
a
someone
like
that
and
wants
to
be
on
our
team,
who
maybe
isn't
an
epic
back
up
user
but
is
very
familiar
with
common
security
exploits
that
would
also
be
great.
So
we
need
to
make
sure
we've
got
a
way
in
our
security
team
to
allow
people
like
that
to
be
involved.
Oh
Jen.
D
A
Okay
yeah,
like
maybe
I'm
here,
the
PMC
section,
where
it's
like
who's
in
charge
of
backpack.
We
can
say
that
we're
part
of
this
other
thing.
That's
a
good
idea.
Can
you
write
that
down
somewhere,
like
even
just
in
dinner,
so
I
hope
that
oh
I.
D
A
Thank
you.
There,
ideas,
for
blog
posts
include
integrations
with
external
services,
same
things
that
could
be
module
integration.
So
if
we
do
get
this
tugboat
thing
that
could
be
kind
of
cool,
also
there's
a
fastly
module
than
one.
For
such
backdrop,
other
stuff,
like
Sydney
serum,
is
getting
a
lot
of
attention
right
now
so
putting
on
swing,
and
you
can
cool
with
backup
and
civvy.
You
could
write
something
up
about
that.
Basically
anything
anyone's
working
on
this
cool
and
you
want
to
share
that.
We
good
we
also
have
this
continuing
community
spotlight.
A
That
would
just
be
a
good
hockey
thing
to
do
for
our
community
to
make
sure
everybody
knows
how
many
amazing
fantastic
people
we
have
in
our
midst
back
up
one
two,
it's
gonna
be
out
in
January,
we'll
have
a
newsletter
about
that,
as
well
as
a
blog
post,
but
yeah
anything
else.
Anyone
feels
is
valuable
to
share
with
our
backdrop
community.
We
should
definitely
get
more
blog
posts
out
there,
so
I
think
right
now.
Anyone
with
a
backdrop
see
my
store,
can
draft
a
blog
post,
but
nobody
is
doing
so.
A
So
if
anyone
has
my
ideas
on
how
to
solicit
content
from
people,
it's
something
is
really
hard,
particularly
as
a
developer
community.
We're
not
very
good
at
doing
content,
but
I
think
that
in
the
world
of
backdrop,
we're
gonna
have
a
lot
more
people
who
are
don't
consider
themselves
developers
who
might
be
looking
for
ways
to
contribute
that
aren't
code
related
and
writing
blog
posts.
I
think
is
a
great
way
to
do
it.
Maybe
here's
an
idea
on
the
contribute
page.
A
E
So
sorry,
sorry,
I
didn't
make
bad
camp
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about,
maybe
doing
it.
That
camp
was
talking
a
little
bit
about
an
outreach
plan.
Just
like
scheduling
things
helps
me
any
kind
of
structure.
So
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about
in
terms
of
having
outreach
plan
was
some
specific
goals
that
we
could
check
in
with
I
got
these
readings
like
hey.
We,
our
goal
is
to
do
you
know
a
blog
post
every
two
weeks.
What
have
we
done
this
week?
E
A
Had
a
goal
when
we
ever
met
it,
so
that's
great
I
just
had
an
idea.
You
know
how
we
use
milestones
for
backdrop,
the
main
project.
What
do
we
use
milestones
on
the
backdrop,
so
you
must
or
agreed
well
for
managing
things
like
blog
post
or
content
creation,
and
then
we
could
schedule
like
we
want
to
have.
You
know
one
showcase
in
one
blog
post
every
month
or
every
two
weeks
he
has
a
blog
post
or
whatever
we
think
you
can
do,
and
then
we
can
assign
them
to
various
people.
A
We
can
choose
topics,
I,
think
that
would
be
a
better
I
mean
I,
don't
know
if
it's
the
best
way
to
manage
blog
post
but
I'm,
trying
to
think
of
some
way
that
we
could
have
like
dates
associated
with
things
rather
than
just
I
mean
having
this
meeting
talked
about.
Them
is
good,
but
I
think
you're
right
like
having
a
way
to
actively
write
down
what
it
is,
we're
supposed
to
do
and
who's
gonna
do
it
and
when
it,
when
it
needs
to
be
done,
is
good
right.
C
A
Don't
know
about
like
Thanksgiving
we
might
not
have
one,
but
in
general,
why
don't
we
use
every
meeting
to
assign
a
blog
post
to
someone
for
the
next
two
weeks?
Maybe
we
should
assign
two
and
then
we
can
be
like
this
one.
We
need
in
two
weeks
in
the
commune
in
four
weeks
and
then
in
two
loops.
We
can
check
in
and
be
like.
A
E
A
Supply
are
two
second:
what
day
do
we
did
we
decide
what
day
it
was
best
to
publish
one
think
whenever
it's
ready,
it's
fine,
but
I
would
love
to
choose
a
date.
How
about
we
choose
Thursday
and
then
that
way.
If
we
have
like
a
slip
today,
we
could
do
it
on
Friday
for
some
reason,
if
necessary,
okay,
so
today's
the
first
two
days
from
now,
it
would
be
the
8th
15th.
E
My
colleague,
David
and
I
undertook
maintain
the
module,
4
backgrounds
and
we
don't
have
experience
with
us
with
Drupal
7
we've
started
down
the
road.
You
know
we've
been
officially
approved
in
all
of
that,
but
I
have
a
few
questions
about
that
and
I
was
thinking
about
just
scheduling
like
a
Google
hangout
at
some
point
with
somebody
with
Greg
or
somebody
who
does
a
lot
of
module,
maintaining
stuff
and
just
asking
a
bunch
of
questions
in.
D
Truth,
I,
don't
I,
don't
I'm,
not
a
maintainer
of
any
module
but
I'm
accused
because
I
am
the
person
who
is
meant
to
be
taking
the
cues
for
I've
not
been
very
diligent
lately,
and
what
I've
asked
for
more
is
because
I
lack
time
is
just
if
you
see
an
application
there
and
it's
not
being
reacted
in
a
long
time
just
think
in
either.
You
answer
this
and
I
said.
E
Your
name
but
I
didn't
actually
mean
you,
but
Jeff
I
was
like
Jeff,
or
somebody
like
that
consignment
Jeff,
but
I
was
think
you
know.
If
I
could
schedule
meeting
with
somebody,
we
could
ask
a
bunch
of
crossed
I
think
it
could
be
a
great
blog
post
out
of
that
review,
sort
of
our
wrap-up
and
I'd
like
to
do
that
very
soon.
I
mean
things
like
just
to
give
you
an
example.
One
of
the
questions
is
we
have
future
ideas
and
my
colleague
is
like
well
try
to
do.
E
We
have
any
application
or
try
to
backport
things
to
or
at
least
apply
patches
to
Drupal.
Is
that
like
a
goal?
Is
that
something
that's
part
of
the
backdraft
way
of
doing
it?
It's
not
kind
of
no
I.
We
should
ask
some
folks
that
are
thinking
about
this,
so
I'd
love
to
just
schedule
a
half
hour,
probably
an
hour
at
some
point,
and
it
doesn't.
E
But
somebody
that's
that's
doing
a
lot
of
stuff
that
would
be
willing
to
answer
our
questions
and
and
that
we
can
publicize.
It
too,
is
if
you're
interested
in
maintaining
it's
sort
of
a
special
webinar
yeah
and
just
keep
it.
You
know
I'm
not
trying
to
make
anything
too
complicated
to
schedule
a
time
use
a
Google
hangout.
We
could
record
it
with
your
research
that
other
people
could
use
later.
Plus
then
I
would
I
would
commit
myself
to
writing
a
blog
post
about
something
up.
What
we
want
that
make
sense.
That's
unusual
yeah.
D
Say
I'm
not
sure
how
many
people
are
watching
these,
like
from
the
active
members
in
the
community,
are
watching
these
recordings,
but
I
would
say
that
you
have
good
chances
if
you
post
something
on
Twitter
that
you
that
somebody
sees
you
right
reacts
or
even
filing
a
ticket
for
that.
Appointing
people
to
it.
G
D
A
I
think
this
guy
might
a
minute
before
we
got
busy
with
other
things.
Okay,
next
on
the
agenda
is
backdrop
planet.
So
we
talked
about
this
two
weeks
ago.
We've
got
an
original
Twitter
poll
and
it
turns
out.
We
had
a
bunch
of
people
who
are
interested
in
subscribing
to
a
bachelor
planet,
which
is
great
I
did
another
Twitter
poll
to
see
if
people
would
be
interested
in
creating
content,
and
there
was
an
awful
lot
of
silence.
A
A
You
know
one
every
two
weeks
might
be
a
good
place
to
start,
maybe
in
January
we
get
this
thing
going
and
then,
as
people
start
seeing
content
appearing
in
their
inboxes
or
their
food
readers
or
whoever
it
is
they're
managing
it
they'll
start
to
see
that
as
an
avenue
where
they
can
use
it
for
their
own
marketing.
On
back
up
and
it
might
begin
to
grow
that
way,
so
I
think
this
is
one
of
these
things
where,
if
we
build
it,
they
will
come
alright.
A
Now,
if
we
ask
people
if
they're
doing
it,
they're
gonna
say
no
cuz,
there's
no
incentive
to
do
it.
So
I
think
you
know
eating.
Starting
with
doing
our
own
blog
posts
is
a
good
way
to
go,
and
once
we
get
those
rolling
out
regularly
I
think
setting
up
a
plan
is
a
good
idea.
It's
doing
other
people
that
want
content
and
then
I
think
the
content
was
so
I
was
thinking
to
kind
of
set
up
a
start
date
for
that
around
January.
C
A
If
we
can
get
our
act
together
with
creating
blog
posts
now
and
have
a
schedule
and
stick
to
it,
then
in
January
it
should
be
no
big
deal,
though,
to
just
kind
of
roll
with
our
own
stuff.
In
there
alright
newsletter,
we
I
don't
think
we
we
sent
out
one
newsletter,
which
was
the
most
recent
version
of
backdrop,
highlights
Tim.
A
Was
it
you
that
wrote
that
blog
post,
we
got
a
lot
of
really
good
feedback
on
the
blog
post
that
went
up
that
showcased
all
the
highlights
in
backdrop
1:11
and
in
particular
those
screenshots
we're
super
valuable.
So
it
would
did
a
really
good
job
of
showcasing
all
the
neat
stuff.
The
backdrop
that
stuff.
E
A
A
And
then,
let's
see
other
newsletter
things
anything
that
we
have
a
good
blog
post
about
I
think
would
be
a
good
time
to
a
newsletter.
If
it's
a
relevant
topic,
when
we
can
send
a
whole
newsletter
about
it,
we
can
do
that,
but
also,
if
it's
just
a
little
highlight,
we
can
send
it
as
like
a
section
of
a
larger
newsletter
videos.
A
We
have
a
couple
of
ideas
for
videos.
We
also
have
our
content
strategy
map
that
wants
a
couple
things
that
we
could
do.
Videos
on
in
general
I
think
we
just
need
more
videos
about
how
to
do
stuff
on
backdrop.
So
if
anyone
is
doing
something
and
you
find
kind
of
a
cool
five
minute
thing-
you're
like
oh,
this
is
really
neat.
I
should
show
people
that,
having
a
five
minute,
video
that
highlights
that
could
be
really
valuable,
Twitter
worthy
blog
post
worthy
anything
like
that.
A
Tweets
I,
don't
know
what's
going
on
in
the
world
right
now,
we
need
to
promote,
but
we
have
a
Twitter
Q.
We
can
add
stuff
to
Tim,
I
think
you're
also
on
the
Twitter.
So
if
you
see
anything
going
on
in
the
world
that
is
relevant,
we
can
definitely
jump
in
on
that.
No
one
has
anything
heard
then
it'll
just
kind
of
keep
reading.
It's
it's
going
on
and
then
mentioned
so
trying
to
get
backdrop
mentioned
elsewhere
on
the
web.
We
talked
about
earlier
in
this
meeting.
A
A
Electrical
seven
audience
could
be
really
valuable.
One
thing
that
I've
been
getting
a
lot
of
spam
lately
where
people
are
trying
to
sell
me
sets
of
email
addresses
of
Drupal
users
and
I've
just
been
kind
of
archiving
those
emails.
Or
what
have
you
but
I,
don't
know
if
there's
any
value
to
setting
up
an
email
list
with
purchased
email
addresses
where
we
could
target
them
and
say
Nate
shaking
his
head.
Are
you
interesting
backdrop?
Why
do
you
think
these
are
like
stolen
email
addresses
super
sketchy,
yeah.
A
A
E
D
A
D
A
D
E
C
A
A
Okay,
other
things,
events
yay
bad
camp
happened
just
a
quick
recap:
we
had
a
summit
on
Wednesday
and
we
had
a
massive
number
signups.
We
had
making
thirty
five
people
who
signed
up
to
attend
so
when
we
got
there
in
the
morning,
I
was
like.
Oh
my
gosh,
that's
every
chair
in
this
room.
It's
really
worried
about
volume,
but
in
typical,
a
bad
camp
style.
If
you
have
a
free
event,
a
whole
bunch
of
people
sign
up,
and
then
they
don't
show
up.
So
we
ended
up
having
plenty.
A
But
even
that
said,
we
went
around
the
room
in
the
morning
and
we
asked
everybody
what
you
know,
what
they
were
interested
in
getting
out
of
it,
and
we
had
a
couple
of
people
that
were
curious
about
back
job,
open-minded
but
not
yet
sold,
and
by
the
end
of
the
day,
almost
everybody
who
wasn't
sure
about
that
track
was
sure
that
they
looked
back
track,
which
was
great.
There
was
one
person
who
thought
it
was
gonna,
be
more
similar
to
Drupal.
A
At
the
very
beginning
of
the
day,
we're
like
you
might
not
be
I'm
gonna
go
to
the
others.
I
meant
we're
like
yeah
he's
like
I'm
doing
this
crazy
headless
project
with
react,
and
they
won't
know
if
it's
easier
with
back
job
or
like
no,
that's,
probably
not
probably
not
gonna
get
easier.
I,
don't
know
if
those
react
with
something
something
like
that,
but
yeah
everybody
else
for
the
most
part
was
really
surprised
about
all
the
new
features
and
improvements
that
went
in
and
we
had
a.
A
So
that
was
really
great,
that
we
had
someone
that
was
sylphs
old,
that
they
needed
to
learn
more,
which
was
fantastic.
The
training
was
full,
we
got
a
really
tiny
room,
but
we
packed
it
called
people
which
was
great.
We
had
a
little
technical
trouble
and
the
issue
in
the
morning
there
was
no
projector
in
there.
We
could
use
so
Nate
had
to
run
home
and
grab
our
spare
projector,
but
it
worked
out.
A
Okay,
we
ended
up
not
not
organising
the
event
to
go
all
day
long,
and
so
we
ended
up
just
pushing
the
schedule
back
half
an
hour
and
it
worked
out
great.
We
had
a
lot
of
people
who
learned
a
lot
of
new
stuff
in
the
training
too,
that
went
well
and
then,
let's
see
we
had
Friday
off,
which
is
great.
We
got
to
just
kind
of
hang
out
with
our
friends
and
then
on
Saturday.
We
gave
two
talks.
We
gave
one
talk
in
the
morning,
which
was
the
philosophy.
A
A
The
party
did
not
make
the
trip
session,
but
it
was
still
pretty
pretty
good.
We
had
a
bunch
of
curious
people
in
there
and
then
in
the
afternoon
we
had
our
demo
talk
and
that
was
much
more
well
attended.
All
people
who
had
survived
party
did
make
the
afternoon
session
slot,
so
there
were
a
lot
of
people
who
I
think
hadn't
seen
one
on
a
backdrop
and
we're
pretty
convinced
that
it's
been
continuing
look
forward.
So
that
was
great
and
had
a
bunch
of
really
good
questions
too.
A
So,
overall
I
felt,
like
the
conference,
went
really
well,
we
changed
a
bunch
of
minds.
We
showed
a
bunch
of
people
stuff,
they
didn't
know
about
and
yeah
we
told
everybody
to
go
all
their
friends
when
they
lost
about
everything.
That's
going
on
in
that
row.
Nate.
Do
you
have
anything
you
want
to
add
to
how
a
bad
camp
went.
A
That
was
great,
so
that
was
something
that
we
realized.
We
were
gonna
be
giving
me
philosophy,
talk
like
once
in
the
summit
and
once
in
the
training,
and
once
is
this
session
I'm
like
that's,
not
going
to
be
valuable
for
people
who
are
interested
in
back
up.
They
don't
want
to
see
the
same
thing
three
times,
even
if
it's
long
format,
short
format
and
so
I
had
listed
on
the
session
backdrop
past
and
future,
and
me
kind
of
ran
with
that
idea
and
made
the
whole
talk
is
in
sequence
of
time.
A
So
it
includes
like
the
creation
of
the
project
management
committee
in
the
localize
website
and
all
of
the
stuff
that
the
project
needs
to
be
successful,
so
I
think
that
was
also
really
compelling
for
people
who
were
not
really
involved.
In
backdrop,
or
maybe
hadn't
been
paying
attention
to
what
we've
been
doing
for
50
years.
C
A
People
just
kind
of
see
it
all
laid
out
like
that
so
yeah
I
think
sneak
for
doing
all
the
work
on
topic
and
it
turns
out
that
if
you,
let
me
talk,
I
talk
much
faster
than
II
and
it's
not
a
problem
because
there's
70
bucks
like
it's
an
hour
but
yeah.
It
was
there's
a
lot
of
great
content
in
there
and
there's
a
bunch
of
good
screenshots
and
animations
of
all
the
neat
stuff
that
went
into
recent
versions.
A
Okay,
upcoming
events,
you
can
go
to
back
drop
CMS
to
org,
slash
news,
/
events
or
just
slash
events.
In
a
couple
weeks,
we
have
the
on
profit
software
development
summit
for
developer
summit,
which
is
here
in
Auckland.
It's
not
backdrop
specific.
It's
very
freeform.
We
will
probably
talk
about
backdrop,
but
there
may
not
be
a
designated
session
so
to
speak,
that
there
will
be
Drupal
South,
which
is
December
3rd
I.
Don't
know
if
you've
heard
anything
about
whether
there's
going
to
be
a
session
they're,
not
about
backdrop
but
they're
lobing,
wholly
conversations
that.
D
Would
certainly
be
it's
just
that
we
have
this
big
project
that
we
want
as
a
company
as
an
agency
and
there's
like
six
sessions,
I
think
we're
presenting,
so
it
was
sort
of
like
imposed
to
meet
you
not
add
more
to
that.
So
we
have
more
chances
to
present
our
work
and
fair
enough,
maybe
mixer,
but
there
will
be
talks.
Ok,.
A
D
By
the
way,
something
I
forgot
about
Drupal
self,
the
the
person
that
was
I,
don't
know
what
you
call
them,
the
the
volunteers
that
help
you
out
when
you
are
presenting
these,
they
see
you're
presenting
on
weeks
and
WordPress,
compared
to
Drupal
what
they're
doing
better
they
they
have
a
session.
So
maybe
a
week
ago,
I
offered
like
I,
said
something
like
along
the
way:
hey.
D
A
We
are
at
time
is
one
o'clock
and
we
need
to
get
started
on
our
developer
meeting.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
wrap
this
and
any
further
thoughts
you
guys
have.
We
can
throw
into
the
depth
meeting
want
to
get
one
on
that
one
all
right!
Well,
thanks
everybody
for
attending
that
was
kind
of
a
great
brainstorm,
so
I
look
forward
to
buying
some
of
those
ideas.