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From YouTube: Backdrop Outreach - Oct 29th 2020
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A
All
right
we
are
live
today
is
thursday
october
29th,
and
this
is
our
bi-weekly
no
wait
for
nightly
community
outreach
meeting,
and
this
week
I
thought
we
would
talk
about
all
of
the
great
stuff
that
people
in
our
community
have
been
doing
and
maybe
better
ways.
We
can
help
facilitate
that
work.
A
So
this
is
gonna,
be
kind
of
free
form
and
encourage
everyone
to.
I
don't
know,
speak
up
when
you
have
something
you
want
to
add,
but
I
just
wanted
to
start
by
thanking
bw
panda
for
all
of
his
continued
work
on
all
of
the
backdrop
websites.
I
know
he's
been
going
through
the
issue,
queue
and
commenting
on
old
things
and
bringing
things
back
up.
A
He
did
a
bunch
of
work
on
the
api
site
earlier
this
month
and
I
think
that
our
general
tools
for
managing
things
have
gotten
much
better
like
the
module
sorting
stuff
he
fixed
on
the
main
site,
and
I
find
that
really
exciting
to
have
you
know
most
of
these
sites
get
kind
of
ignored
most
of
the
time,
and
I
think
that's
really
great
we're
also
last
week
before
our
weekly
meeting.
A
So
yeah,
I'm
grateful
for
everybody
who's
working
on
that
in
terms
of
outreach,
I
think
having
better
documentation
is
good,
but
that
will
help
the
people
who
already
know
about
us,
and
I
would
love
to
find
more
ways
to
reach
out
to
people
who
don't
already
know
about
us,
and
this
is
something
that,
like
as
a
drupal
community,
we
were
really
bad
at.
I
remember
trying
to
run
bad
camp
events
and
being
like
how
do
we
invite
people
who
don't
know
about
drupal
to
come?
A
But
if
we
don't
know
them,
we
don't
know
how
to
reach
them
same
thing
for
drupalcon
san
francisco,
and
it
was
something
that,
as
a
handful
of
drupal
developers,
nobody
in
the
room
really
knew
how
to
fix
that,
except
for
maybe
luke.
I
think
luke
had
ideas.
No
one
else
had
any
ideas,
and
so
I
think
we're
now
facing
the
same
thing
in
backdrop
or
like
we've
got
a
bunch
of
people
who
know
drupal
and
backdrop,
and
we
don't
really
know
what
like.
A
How,
where
do,
wordpress
developers
hang
out
and
like
where
are
people
who
are
doing
more
than
wordpress
can
do
and
want
the
next
tool.
Where
are
they
looking
so
yeah?
I
would
love
to
hear
all
of
your
feedback
on
various
other
places
that
backdrop
might
be
able
to
put
itself
to
be
visible
to
those
kinds
of
people.
A
B
Well,
something
that
has
come
up
recently
is
these
one-click
installers,
which
is
a
long
time
issue.
We've
had
and
that's
a
place
where
people
are
looking
for
our
software
right
and
they
don't
necessarily
know
about
us
if
we're
in
them,
and
I
think
that
domain
good
is
that
his
name
screen
name
had
said
he'd
followed
up
recently
with
soft
delicious
or
something
like
that.
B
Thank
you
softaculous
anyways,
and
we
have
a
long-standing
issue
and
have
done
work
in
the
past.
I
don't
even
know
like
how
up-to-date
that
information
is,
though,
like
which
one-click
installers
were
in,
but
that
would
be
certainly,
it
seems
to
me
like
the
lowest
cost,
although
also
something
that
we
have
a
little
control
over
other
than
bugging
people.
A
Yeah,
I
also
spent
a
while-
I
don't
know
it
was
a
year
or
more
ago,
going
through
all
of
the
one-click
installers.
We
had
and
checking
out
the
status
of
backdrop.
C
A
Most
of
them
didn't
have
backdrop
yet
and
didn't
have
any
way
to
request
anything
other
than
sort
of
like
emailing.
A
contact
form
like
there
isn't
an
issue
queue
there
nothing's
open
source,
where
we
can
like
provide
a
pull
request
and
the
places
that
did
have
backdrop
had
really
old,
out-of-date
versions
of
it
and
they
also
were
not
open
to
like
having
us
provide
an
update.
A
Every
time
we
made
an
update,
and
so
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
just
many
of
these
tools
are
motivated
by
numbers
and
dollars
and
as
an
open
source
community
that
is
rather
small
like
we
don't
have
either
of
those
things
to
give
them,
and
so
with
one
of
them
they
were
like.
Oh
yeah,
we
have
it
in
an
internal
issue
and
when
we
get
enough
requests,
we'll
add
it,
and
so
that-
and
I
think
I
don't
know
if
that
was
subtitles
or
one
of
the
other
ones.
A
But
I
think
then
it's
just
a
matter
of
like
getting
enough
people
to
fill
out
that
contact
form
and
send
it
into
the
void,
and
that
would
be
the
way
we
would
go.
Okay,.
D
How
about
which
one
is
it?
Is
it
platform,
sage
or
pantheon
that
they
have
like
wordpress
and
the
two
flavors
of
drupal,
but
they
don't
have
the
least
ass?
I
remember
that
we
poked
them
like
a
few
years
ago.
Is
their
stance
still
the
same
like
they
still
won't.
Add
us
to
the
main
list.
A
Yeah
so
I
talked
to
them
in
earlier
this
year
at
some
point
april
or
something
and
their
what's
on.
That
list
is
entirely
driven
by
marketing
team,
and
so
they
need
to
see
a
return
on
investment
on
that
page.
If
they
put
you
on
that
page,
so
they
used
to
have
a
lot
of
options
on
there,
including
like
drupal
commerce
and
open
atrium,
and
they
removed
everything,
and
I
think
at
that
point
like
that
was
really
early
on,
and
that
was
right
when
backdrop
got
added.
A
Oh,
we
want
to
be
on
this
page
and
then
it
was
like
a
month
later
they
pulled
everything
else,
and
so
I
think
that
that
page,
only
having
drupal,
7,
8
and
wordpress
is
like
important
to
the
marketing
team
for
some
reason.
So.
E
Okay,
yeah,
I
I
I
think
actually,
along
that
line
pantheon,
which
you
know
doesn't
doesn't
advertise
us,
but
it
supports
us
very
well.
I
I
think
is:
is
one
of
the
the
best
sort
of.
E
Like
market
validating
things
that
that
we
have,
I
there's
there's
a
few
of
those,
and
I
was
writing
I'll-
do
a
little
steel
now,
because
because
I
I
think
our
our
our
best
outreach
is
is
picking
backing
on
these
other
projects.
So
number
one
most
obvious
is
sippy
crm
which
actually
advertises
us
like.
If
you
go
to
the
civic
crm
site
alone,
among
almost
anything
it
will
say
about
backdrop,
so
I
mean
I
think,
that's
fantastic.
E
With
that
metaphor,
we
should
make
sure
that
experience
flows
well
and-
and
I
mean
there's
a
limited
amount
of
work
that
you
know,
there's
always
the
question:
how
can
we
do
it,
but
we
shouldn't
you
know
shouldn't
do
anything
to
to
slow
it
down
and
should
encourage
it
and
and
water
it
in
whatever
easy
ways
we
can
similarly
and
and
kind
of
uniquely
the
the
packaged
docker
things.
Not
just
you
know
our
buddies
at
atlanta,
but
deed,
evan
doxel.
E
So
so
I
would
think
we
were
getting
or
could
get,
or
I
mean
that
that
seems
like.
That
seems
like
a
surprising
amount
of
push
for
us
now
we
don't
have
any
way.
I
don't
think
to
tell
if
that
works,
and
I
mean
I
I
doubt
if,
if
very
many
people
actually
click
on
that
without
knowing
what
it
is
but
but
that
it
feels
like
we
should
feed
that
that
we
should
encourage
that.
E
That,
like,
like
those
there's
kind
of
four
ways
to
try-
and
we
have
you-
know
the
pantheon
on
the
front
page-
we
do
we
do
push
that,
but
so
so
so
those
things
and
if
we
can
find
anything
else
and
anybody
else
that
is
willing
to
bundle
it
with
it,
as
as
part
of
the
platform
that
they
approach
it.
With
kind
of
I.
D
Kind
of
find
those
places
and
like
expected,
if,
if
we
are
listed
there,
as
in
someone,
tries
to
fire
it
up
and
like
they
they're
trying
to
ease
the
life
of
their
users,
what
I
find
really
cool
is
the
drustcommands.com
which
actually
has
us
like
in
a
very
prominent
place.
D
So
this
is
the
place
where
people
just
go
to
see
and
maybe
look
you
haven't
seen
that
so
I'll
add
it
to
the
chat
yeah
so,
and
there
was
no
reason
for
them
to
have
us
there
like
they
are
not
selling
a
service
source
like
any
software
they're,
just
I
guess
friends
of
ours
and
they
actually
explain
things
like
they
start
by
saying.
If
you
look
at
the
link,
it
says
is
migrating
to
your
code
to
complex
for
you,
then
try
have
you
tried
backdrop
yet.
So
that's
awesome.
D
It's
really
awesome,
but
with
with
regards
to
pantheon,
have
have
they
ever
see
how
we
approached
tagboat
for
our
sandboxes,
and
they
said
that
they
would
like
to
have
a
discussion
with
us
with
regards
to
return
of
investment
on
their
end
with
pantheon.
Have
they
asked
for
such
a
discussion,
or
did
they
say
what
it
would
take?
No,
they
just
said
no.
A
D
A
E
We
want
to
be
in
a
position
to
to
be
there
at
at
that
time.
So
so
I
noticed
that
this
drush
commands
link
link
is
terrific.
It
would
it'd
be
nice
ideally
to
have
that,
go
to
a
landing
page
where
we're
like
hey,
welcome
here's,
what
you
need
to
know
you
know
just
so
they
they
feel
you
know,
loved
and
acknowledged
and
and
can
be
guided
down.
The
the
logs
probably
can
tell
us
which,
how
much
traffic
we
get
from
there
right.
D
Small,
a
small
complaint
by
the
way-
I
wasn't
sure
so
I
just
checked
now
our
try
backdrop
page,
so
we
are
doing
our
what
we're
doing
the
good
thing.
The
nice
thing
here
with
regards
to
platform
to
pantheon.
Sorry,
our
try
backdrop
page,
listen,
first
of
all
the
options
and
although
I
would
have
to
say
that
tagboard
are
the
more
friendly
to
us
like
they're,
providing
us
services
for
free.
D
That's
why
they're
unhappy
we
list
them
at
the
last
as
last,
because
yeah,
I
know,
there's
some
like
we
need
to
there's
some
categories
there
there's
you
know
the
the
femoral
services
and
the
ones
that
you
can
spin
up
backward
sites
and
keep
them
potentially
keep
them
forever
and
promote
them
to
actual
sites
but
yeah.
Just
a
small
complaint.
It
kind
of
feels
unfair.
A
Yeah,
I
mean
the
reason,
so
that's
like
a
user
experience
thing
right
like
if
you
don't
want
tugboat
putting
it.
The
first
thing
on
the
page
is
going
to
make
people
they're
like
I
just.
I
click
that
link
in
exactly
the
same
thing
as
it's
on
the
other
page
leave
right.
So
you
don't
even
the
same
thing.
They
just
said
no
to.
D
Yeah,
I
think
we,
I
think
we
already
have
a
ticket
in
the
queue
to
sort
of
like
make
these
accordions
or
have
a
table
of
contents
on
the
side
which
says
these
are
services
that
will
potentially
you
can
potentially
keep
the
site
forever
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
Yeah.
I
understand
that
I
just
had
it
the
other
way.
E
A
Yeah
when
you
said
that
I
went
and
checked
this
page
immediately
and
was
like
I
didn't
know,
dark
souls
did
backdraft,
probably
because
they're
not
on
this
page
but
yeah.
I
don't
do
we
know
anyone
who
works
there,
that
we
can
ask.
D
Also
using
gear,
so
when
I
was
when
we
were
using
getter,
I
had
a
see
how
guitar
allows
you
to
have
multiple
communities
on
the
sidebar.
I
had
the
voxel
community
and
I
think
I've
filed
a
pull
request
to
update
backdrop,
because
we
have
an
outdated
version
there,
but
yeah
the
the
community
is
pretty
open
to
supporting
us.
I
mean
supporting
backdrop
as
an
option,
but
yeah.
D
Nope,
that's
a
an
a
tool
that
is
equivalent
to
lando
and
d
dev.
Okay,.
B
So,
just
to
process
check
we're
getting
into
the
details
about
sort
of
each
specific
provider.
It
seems
to
me
the
more
helpful
thing
is:
what
is
an
overall
strategy
here
so
or
to
move
on
and
talk
about
something
else,
but
I
think
before
we
move
on.
D
A
While
yeah,
but
thanks
to
my
gigantic
new
backdrop,
project
looking
at
the
feature
request
list
for
the
future,
it
looks
like
they're
going
to
need
civi.
So
I
might
have
to
learn
this.
B
So
yeah
janet
this
has
been
discussed
as
recently
as
a
week
or
two
ago.
The
problem
has
been
that
we
want
that.
Apparently,
the
current
plan
is
that
we
we
want
to
connect
back
to
our
civvy
crm
to
to
backdrop.org,
and
so
it's
not
just
about
spinning
up
a
new
civvy
instance.
It's
about
connecting
it
to
backdrop.org,
and
we
can't
do
that
until
we've
kind
of
tested
it
in
a
dev
environment
and
so
like.
B
A
I
think,
and
they
have
a
lot
of
experience,
setting
up
civvy
for
all
of
their
nonprofit
clients,
it's
sort
of
a
standard
offering
that
they
do
and
they
have
experience
adding
civic
to
existing
sites
and
they
have
experience
knowing
how
to
set
it
up
out
of
the
box,
and
especially,
we
had
a
meeting
and
talked
about
the
kinds
of
things
that
we
want
to
talk
to
our
contacts
about
like
the
kinds
of
contact
we
want
to
have
with
all
the
people
in
our
database,
and
they
said
that
they
could
help
us
create
that
experience
and
then
release
civi
to
us
where
it's
already
set
up
with
all
that
information
about
all
of
our
people
in
it.
A
And
that
sounded
amazing
to
me.
But
they
are
also
very
busy-
and
this
is
also
at
the
bottom
of
their
list,
because
it
is
pre-donated
work.
And
so
we
had
arranged
a
sort
of
a
work
swap
where
I
was
like
I'll.
Do
free
work
for
you.
If
you
do
free
work
for
backdrop,
sort
of
thing
and
the
things
that
they
had
requested
were
stuff
related
to
civi,
like
views,
integration
and
what
else
and
so
we're
in
a
little
bit
of
a
pickle,
because
they
don't
have
time
to
do
the
work
for
us.
A
G
A
I
think
at
this
point
like
if
any
one
of
us
can
figure
out
how
to
just
get
civvy
on
our
site,
we
can
kick
the
can
down
the
road
for
how
to
get
it
configured
for
what
we
need,
because
at
any
point
we
could
probably
tap
them
and
say:
hey.
Can
you
help
us
set
this
thing
up
and
I
don't
think
I
mean
other
than
like
accidentally
deleting
all
of
our
data,
which
I
don't
think
is
going
to
happen.
I
don't
think
there's
very
much.
We
can
do
wrong.
That's
dangerous,
I
think
there's
only
stuff.
A
E
B
The
point
look,
I
think,
is
to
pull
in
the
existing
data
right
which
we're
not
like.
We
could
just
add
it
on
to
backdrop.
That's
not
the
hard
part.
The
hard
part
is
getting
it
to
work
with
our
existing
database.
We've
got
a
thousand
accounts
on
backdrop.org
and
we
need
to
figure
out
how
to
connect
those
to
civvy
right.
John.
A
B
E
D
B
D
So
I
I
also
try
to
set
up
my
backdrop
cms.org
locally
about
three
weeks
ago
and
bw
panda
has
put
up
a
script
along
the
script
that
helps
you
with
that,
but
I
hit
some
roadblock
like
something
wasn't
working,
so
I
wanted
to
help
with
something
totally
different,
but
yeah
there
was
a
roadblock
but
yeah,
it's
possible
team.
D
Maybe
we
could
coordinate
after
like
in
a
separate
session,
not
this
meeting
and
just
get
it
done.
B
Sorry,
let's
do
that
yeah,
but
let's
coordinate
that
in
tulip
after
the
meeting.
Let's
find
a
time
and
do
that
yep
done
yeah.
I
need
to
do
that
for
for
the
the
telemetry
module
anyways
to
test
that.
So
this
will
be
a
two
for
one.
For
me.
D
Yeah
with
regards
to
other
ways
to
like
or
things
that
are
happening
in
the
community
in
recent
blog
posts,
a
constant
thing
that
is
happening-
and
I
mentioned
it
today-
is
that
I
watched
this
webinar
from
a
private
like
a
digital
agency
that
would
it
was
a
marketing
effort
from
what
it's
seen,
but
still
it
offered.
D
It
was
disgusting
discussing
the
various
options
for
owners
of
d7
sites,
and
they
were
mentioning
backdrop
and
they
said
that
it
should
it's
a
valid
option
for
people
to
choose,
but
they
were
discussing
the
pros
and
the
cons
of
its
option
and
the
one
of
the
cons
for
backdrop
was
well.
If
we
want
to
put
it
nicely,
we
would
say
uncertainty,
but
they
were
mentioning
it
as
a
risk
because
we're
a
smaller
community
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
this
thing
keeps
coming
up
like
previously.
There
were
concerns
about
security.
D
We
were
telling
people
not
we're
coordinating
with
drupal
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
we've
done
something
about
it,
but
and
this
ties
up
to
what
you
said
team
with
regards
to
documentation,
I
know
that
you
mentioned
that
it's
for
when
people
actually
know
who
we
are,
but
if
people
find
out
about
us
they
try
to
set
up
backdrop
and
then
they
try
to
find
documentation
and
they
hit
a
roadblock.
D
It's
easier
for
them
to
give
up.
So
documentation
does
tie
into
like
the
outreach
like
as
a
side
project,
it's
not
a
main
thing,
but
that
does
thai
what
are
what
are
our
ways
to
communicate
to
people
about
the
longevity
or
like
when
we
do
presentations
we
say
bankrupt
is
here
to
stay.
We
say
that
we
have
a
history
of
seven
years
now,
five
years
of
releases,
our
releases
have
been
on
time
and
like
steady.
D
This
is
enough
sort
of
like
to
prove
the
history,
but
people
are
worried
about
the
future.
So
is
the
roadmap
on
our
page
enough.
Do
we
need
to
set
up
a
specific
page
or
a
blog
post?
That
explains
that
so
that
yeah,
I
don't
know
how.
A
Yeah,
I
don't
know
that
this,
like
is
necessarily
a
problem,
necessarily
a
problem
we
can
solve,
because
it's
something
that's
like
an
impression
that
people
get
that
isn't
really
based
like
they
don't
have
anything
that
needs
to
be
disproven
like
with
security.
It
was
very
clear,
like,
oh,
we
don't
think
you're
doing
stuff
with
drupal
and
it's
like
we
are
and
they're
like.
A
Oh,
but
here
it's
like
you
know,
the
future
is
a
mystery
for
drupal
too
and
they're
committing
to
that
just
because
there's
a
lot
of
other
people
who
are
already
in
the
boat.
So
I
don't
know
I
like
to
I
I
like
to
often
say
you
know
people
are
like.
Oh,
I
don't
know
it's
smaller
than
the
drupal
community.
What
about
the
future?
I
was
like.
A
Well,
you
know,
there's
more
than
a
thousand
people
in
this
boat
and
that's
more
than
a
lot
of
other
open
source
software
communities
have
and
the
number
of
people
working
on
drupal
is
shrinking.
The
number
of
people
working
on
backdrop
is
growing
and
I
don't
know
what
that
means
for
the
long
term
for
either
one
maybe
they'll
end
up
at
the
same
place,
but
yeah
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
that
we
can.
D
Yeah,
for
example,
when
I,
when
I
google,
when
I
google,
with
terms
backdrop
cms
and
future
roadmap,
comes
up
as
a
second
result
for
me,
and
the
first
result
is
a
mention
one
of
the
external
mentions
which
says
the
future
of
drupal.
So
what
I
was
saying
is
that
do
we
perhaps
need
a
dedicated
page
in
our
on
our
site,
explaining
what
our
plans
are,
because
the
the
roadmap
thing
is
a
bit
vague
and
technical.
B
I
don't
think
that's
what
that
concerns
about.
I
think
it's
purely
about
the
size
of
our
community
and
the
perception
of
how
stable
it
is,
and-
and
we
can't
you
know,
the
only
thing
we
can
do,
I
think,
is
one
just
keep
plugging
along
and
growing
and
reinforcing
an
image
of
stability
right.
So
the
more
we
sort
of
show
up
in
in
twitter-
and
you
know,
in
social
media,
the
more
people
see
us.
The
more
they'll
perceive
us
as
something
stable.
B
C
E
Which
I
propose
is
initiative
and
as
soon
as
I'm
as
I
get
goddamn
ready
to
wear
launch,
this
might
be
the
next
one,
but
but
the
the
it's
called
the
built-in
data
import
and
export
initiative,
the
the
idea
being
that
that
I
I
think
we
can,
we
can
make
it
clear
that
there
are
lifeboats
available
that
if
the
end
does
come,
if
the
platform
does
die
like
we're,
not
you're
not
going
to
get
screwed,
here's
how
you
get
off
it
and-
and
I
mean
because
people
have
to
move
platforms
all
the
time
anyway.
E
D
So
this
was
the
the
future
and
the
jump
like
the
question
of
that
came
up
during
the
adventmatic
webinar.
That
I
attended
was
that
if
I
decide
to
go
to
backdrop
and
then
I
for
now
and
then
sometime
in
the
future,
I'm
ready
to
go
to
d9.
D
Is
there
a
a
blocker
there
and
our
general
like
so
the
answer
there
was
that
the
way
that
you
move
from
d7
to
d9
is
migration,
so
the
the
tools
that
are
being
used
that
generic
and
they
support
like
there's
nothing
fundamentally
changed
in
the
data
infrastructure,
the
way
that
data
is
being
stored
in
backdrop,
that
would
prevent
people
that
are
using
the
tools
to
migrate
d7
to
d9.
To
do
the
same
thing
with
backdrop.
D
So
there's
another
thing
that
I
don't
think
that
we
have
any
literature
saying
that
in
our
site,
so
that
it
sort
of
like
takes
that
fear
away
from
people.
It's
it's
there
as
an
answer
like
we
have
a
dedicated
thing
for
security,
but
we
don't
have
anything
for
that
so
yeah.
I
agree
with
that.
E
You
know
it's
on
a
back
burner,
but
but
I
I've
coded
up
a
migrate
module
that
actually
migrates
you
using
I
mean
I
just
I
just
you
know,
stole
the
the
drupal
7
code
and
and
made
like
the
minor
changes
to
make
a
good
backdrop
and.
D
Back
to
what
teams,
though,
with
regards
to
the
size
of
the
community,
I
see
that
we
have
a
ribbon
like
a
dedicated,
what
you
call
it:
hero
thingy
on
our
homepage,
which
lists
the
amount
of
comments
on
our
forum.
I
suspect,
or
is
it
that
github
those.
A
Are
github
core
and
contrib.
D
I
think
that
we
should
also
add
the
forum
activity
here.
It
says
commits
and
community
members,
which
is
great,
but
how
do
we
make
that
more
prominent
like
is
it?
Is
it
is
that
enough?
Do
people
do
people,
see
that
I
mean
or
or
they
do
see
it,
and
they
still
consider
that
it's
too
small
and
they're
concerned
about
the
health
of
the
project
like.
F
I
I
don't
know
like
the
answer
to
that.
May
I
say
something
here:
I
didn't
attend
the
meeting
for
for
quite
some
time.
Sorry,
maybe
you
discussed
this
in
the
past,
but
for
me
the
low-hanging
fruit
is.
Google
is
search
engine.
It's
people
searching
for
drupal
alternatives
to
have
the
next
100
contributors.
F
B
D
F
D
So
we
started
something
with
the
conservatives
that
right
you're
taking
the
emails
now
jim,
I'm
sure.
A
Yeah,
so
we
haven't
started
yet,
but
we
did
apply
for
a
google
ads
grant,
which
is
where
google
gives
free
money
to
nonprofits
and
that
was
sort
of
a
complicated
process
that
learns
started
working
on
for
us,
where
we
have
to
create
a
page
in
another
system
that
google
uses
to
confirm
that
you're,
a
non-profit
and
they
sort
of
have
offloaded
that
verification
process
to
another
site,
and
we
need
to
list
ourselves
as
being
part
of
the
suffer
freedom,
conservancy
and
the
suffer
freedom.
A
Conservancy
did
not
already
have
an
entity
on
this
website,
and
so
laryn
has
created
one
on
behalf
of
the
software
freedom
conservancy.
But
it's
really.
They
move
really
slow
over
there
and
so
trying
to
get
them
to
like
sign
off
on
things
and
respond
to
emails
has
been
a
little
bit
painful.
So
we're
sort
of
at
that
process
where
it's
like
we've
created
the
conservancy,
but
they
have
not
approved
the
stuff
they
need
to
approve
to
get
confirmed
as
a
non-profit,
which
in
turn
would
then
allow
us
to
file
for
this
grant.
F
That
grant,
but
let's
assume
that
they
deny
to
support
us.
Let's
assume
this.
Nevertheless,
we
we
we
could
analyze,
I'm
deep,
pretty
deep
with
this
seo
thing.
In
the
meantime,
we
I
would
love
to
analyze
a
search,
console
log
file
or
whatever,
whatever
tool
we
use
and
filter
out
two
or
three
top
expressions
which
indicate
that
people
are
desperately
looking
for
an
alternative
to
whatever
and
then
maybe
create
one
or
two
pages
or
three
pages
of
content,
and
this
helps
in
the
long
term.
F
Right
now
I
have
a
market
for
a
beauty,
consulting
company.
It's
it's!
It's
very
much
the
same
as
the
software
company,
how
you
come
from
from
search
queries
to
to
result
to.
D
A
A
F
Yeah
sure
and
we're
making
progress.
I
I
checked
today
I
checked
drupal
alternative
on
google
and
we're
making
progress
on
our
website
called
alternative.
2.
we're
number
five
compared
to
number
15
a
few
a
few
months
ago.
A
Matthias,
do
you
use
zulip
yup.
A
Can
you
private
message
me
your
email
address
and
I'll
add
you
to
our
google
analytics
and
webmaster
tools
for
backdrop
cms.org
in
related
properties.
B
This
is
a
kind
of
outreach,
but
it's
to
our
existing
community
and
see
if
people
have
ideas
for
new
ones.
So
currently
the
the
three
current
notifications,
showing
up
our
help,
an
announcement
about
the
documentation
last
week,
so
I
just
unpublished
that
so
that'll
go
away
the
next
one
is
what
new
features
would
you
like
to
see
that
post
in
the
forum
and
backdrop
cms
1.17
has
been
released?
B
D
I
don't
know
what's
new
like
is
there
any
event
that
is
upcoming.
A
We
could,
I
don't
know,
what's
in
our
blog,
but
we
could
write
some
content
and
link
to
it
first,
but.
B
Okay,
well,
we
don't
I
mean
we
don't
have
to
answer
this
and
we
can
just
when
I
unpublished,
one,
the
the
last
oldest
one
will
pop
back
up
and
I'll
I'll
have
to
see
what
that
one
is.
I
forget
but
anyways
I
can
come
up
with
something
too.
I
wanted
it,
but
an
opportunity
for
somebody
else
if
they
could
think
of
something
going
on
right
now
that
we,
that
might
be
good
on
the
dashboard.
Let
me
know
I
have
been
updating
that
every
couple
of
weeks
so.
D
By
the
way,
our
events
page
is
blank,
but
it
says
here's
a
list
of
events
that
you
can
yeah.
Maybe
in
that
case
we
can
show
past
events,
because
it's
now
it's
just
it's
title
and
nothing.
There's.
A
Yeah,
so
my
vote
is
for
march,
because
february
is
15
days
after
our
release,
and
if
we
did
it
in
march,
then
it
would
be
a
month
and
15
days.
It
seems
like
a
more
reasonable
amount
of
time
based
on
the
last
time,
but
if
we
do
it
in
march,
then
we
would
also
do
it
in
july
and
november
and
november
is
not
a
good
time
for
an
event
so
well,
I.
D
B
D
A
A
And
then
the
one
in
july,
on
friday,
in
the
middle
of
july,.
B
Let's
go
with:
let's
go
with
the
third
friday
friday
for
now,
and
we
can.
That
would
be
march,
20th
and
july
17th.
D
Yeah
and
mention
that
these
days
are
tentative
but
yeah,
yeah,
okay,
cool.
D
D
What
else
so
that
could
go
one
of
them?
The
next
one
can
go
in
the
dashboard,
as
you
said,
so
that
we
can
get
feedback
from
people
like.
Is
it
a
good
time?
Is
it
not?
A
Any
ideas,
oh,
we
do
have.
A
A
google
drive
full
of
interviews
of
community
spotlight
stuff.
We
should
check
on.
A
Mobile
money
payment
because
it's
different
in
use
more
than
banks,
I'm
also
starting
to
work
on
financial
transaction
stuff.
For
backdrop-
and
I
think
right
now,
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
solutions.
We
have
stripe
and
we
have
paypal
in
various
forms
but
yeah.
I
think
in
general,
we're
missing
a
lot
of
those
e-commerce
pieces
that
you
know,
there's
a
million
commerce
modules
that
do
it.
But
if
we're
not
using
commerce,
we've
got
to
get
the
alternatives.
Moving
over
to.
B
Although
this
would
be
a
good
time
to
mention
that,
jan
with
some
work,
she's
doing
for
a
client-
and
I
have
talked
about
collaborating
a
bit
on
some
conference-
related
tools
that
we
can
also
use
for
backdrop
live-
and
one
of
I
think
the
the
most
important
ones
that
we're
interested
in
is
like
ticket
purchasing
right.
The
ability
to
register
for
an
event
on
the
backdrop
site-
and
hopefully
we'll
get
some
contrib
modules
out
for
that,
and
then
I'm
I've
suggested
that
we
at
least
experiment
with
a
distribution
sort
of
backdrop.
B
Events,
if
nothing
else
as
an
excuse
or
a
place
to
play
with
some
of
these
contrib
modules
and
experiment
with
them,
but
also
to
experiment
with
the
idea
of
distributions
for
backdrop,
which
I
think
has
outreach
implications.
So,
although
I'm
not
sure
it's
the
right
way
to
go.
So
I
welcome
feedback
on
that.
A
F
I
can
contribute
the
event
registration
module,
because
jones
have
helped
me
with
migrating
that
from
drupal
for
a
custom
project.
That
would
be
great
not
not
to
release
yet,
but
I'm
very
happy.
I
will
use
it
again
in
the
near
future
for
signing
up
to
two
events.
I've
done
a
lot
of
event,
solutions
in
the
past,
not
on
drupal,
but
I
know
that
I
know
the
use
case
a
little
bit.
A
That's
great
yeah.
I
was
looking
for
there's
a
drupal
module
called
registration.
I
think
it's
called
entity
registration
and
I
was
thinking
about
importing
that
one.
You
already
have
something
that
you
can.
B
D
I'll
put
a
link
in
the
end
up
right
now
talking
about
having
like
in
case
it
wasn't
felt
already
for
the
last
three
months,
maybe
or
more
I
haven't
been
doing
a
great
job
at
keeping
up
with
the
contrib
jen.
I
think
that
you've
been
jumping
there.
Just
yes,
just
be
aware
that
we
need
some
more
people
to
be
more
responsive.
We
used
to
be
doing
a
better
job
for
people,
doing
applications
for
putting
modules
so
yeah
get
back
to
that,
but
yeah.
I.
A
Solicit
and
we'll
just
say
here
too,
what
the
responsibility
would
be
is
to
keep
an
eye
on
the
backdrop,
ops,
slash,
contrib
issue
queue,
which
is
where
people
apply
for
applications
to
become
a
contributed,
maintainer
or
even
just
contribute
stuff,
and
so
the
process
to
that
is
just
being
basically
making
sure
that
they
fulfill
the
three
requirements
on
a
new
project
which
is
keeping
to
get
history
from
drupal
7,
including
the
license
file
and
including
a
readme
file,
and
if
they've
done
those
three,
those
three
things
we
just
grant
them
permission.
A
D
Olaf
has
been
doing
a
great
job
at
pinging
me
when
people
are
waiting
for
a
day
or
two,
so
you
don't
have
to
directly
help
or
be
involved
with
that.
But
if
you
pick
me
in
zulu,
which
I
always
have
open
that
helps
as
well.
A
Okay,
well,
why
don't
we
wrap
up
this
meeting
and
I'll
just
hit
the
stop
recording
button
and
then
we'll
start
the
next
one.