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From YouTube: Backdrop Outreach - July 25th
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Today’s outreach agenda: http://bit.ly/2YZ6XEL
A
All
right
we're
on
air,
it
is
Thursday,
July,
25th
and
hangouts
is
telling
me
that
hangouts
is
going
on
on
this
first,
although
the
last
thing
I
wrote
said
it
wasn't
only
to
all
October,
so
we're
gonna
need
to
figure
out
another
suitable
meeting
alternative.
Pretty
soon
I
tried
the
meat
thing
one
time,
but
there's
it's
a
one-way.
Not
not
meat
I,
don't
know
what
they
had
like
some
kind
of
webcam
alternative
I
forget,
but
it
was
a
one-way
broadcast.
It
wasn't
a
meeting,
so
maybe
we
should
look
into
other
options.
A
A
A
Ok,
let's
see
today's
meeting.
This
is
what
are
we
talking
about
outreach
I
guess
meanings
are
relevant
right,
that's
outreach
and
I
know
you
guys
had
a
meeting
two
weeks
ago
and
I
wasn't
here,
I,
don't
know
if
there's
anything
in
the
agenda
that
needs
to
be
discussed
or
talked
about
with
more
urgency
than
anything
else.
I
was
having
a
couple
of
thoughts
when
I
was
looking
over
it.
One
of
them
is
that
we
have
a
bunch
of
content
for
your
blog
pre-written.
All
of
the
interviews
for
our
show
our
community
spotlights
and
I.
A
Don't
know
if
anyone's
been
watching
the
blog
to
see.
If
any
is
going
out
right.
You
certainly
you're
not,
but
maybe
what
we
could
do
is
preload
all
of
that
content
into
notes
with
Auto
scheduled
dates,
and
then
that
way
we
wouldn't
need
to
watch
it
to
see
what
was
happening.
And
then,
if
we
did
get
new
people
writing
new
blog
posts,
we
could
slide
them
around
ones
that
are
already
scheduled
that
maintenance.
We.
A
B
A
They're
written
already
they're,
just
not
there
in
like
Google
Docs
or
something
they're
not
on
the
website.
Oh
come,
so
we
would
need
to
put
them
into
the
website
and
schedule
them
using
scheduler
where
I
was
thinking
like
once
every
two
weeks
I
would
take
in
from
the
Google
Doc
and
put
them
on
the
website,
because
when
we
first
started
talking
about
it,
we
didn't
have
scheduling.
A
We
have
a
tool
for
this,
paying
attention
to
blogs
on
the
website
and
that's
exactly
what
of
course,
you're
not
pay
attention
to
it.
Well,
but
yeah
I
think
there's
it.
We've
got
a
issue
for
the
community,
spotlight,
I.
Think
there's
a
comment
on
the
last
person
issue
that
has
a
link
to
the
location
of
these
things.
Oh
check
that
afterwards
and
see
if
it.
A
A
A
Let's
see,
there's
the
burning
question
at
the
very
top
of
this
agenda.
How
do
we
get
back
drop
in
other
places
like
we
reach
out
to
communities
on
our
own
I?
Don't
know
if
anyone
has
any
new
ideas
about
that.
Usually
we
talk
about
all
of
our
old
ideas
if
the
things
were
already
doing,
but
maybe
we
should
take
a
minute
to
talk
about
things
we
aren't
already
doing.
A
I,
don't
know
I
mean
I,
don't
have
any
ideas
this
week.
We
can
talk
about
it
next,
it
would
be
good
to
continue
to
kind
of
think
outside
the
box
last
week
was
Austin
up
in
forums
and
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
we
could
get
something
like
backed
up
to
be
more
prominently
featured
at
open
source
events.
Yes
and
I,
don't
know
that
there
are
a
lot
of
open
source
offense
but
I
think
in
general
Austin's
a
good
one.
A
It
was
super
expensive
to
actually
sponsor,
but
they
have
some
like
nonprofit
tables
they
give
away
I,
don't
I.
Think
I
asked
them
to
be
add
to
that
mailing
list
next
year,
but
I'm
not
entirely
sure
that'll
work,
so
I
don't
know
how
to
get
on
that.
But
I
don't
know
how
to
ask
for
that.
I'm
gonna
have
to
maybe
watch
the
website
and
try
and
figure
out,
but
I
think
there
are
opportunities
like
that.
We
just
know
how
to
look
for
them.
Maybe.
C
C
Right
and
it's
like
what
are
those
other
events
and
having
having
a
list
to
them
interpreter
but
part
of
the
problem
right?
Is
we
don't
you
don't
have
a
budget
for
that?
We
get
we're,
making
individual
choice,
yeah
you
and
I,
and
others
it's
like.
What
are
we
gonna
go
yeah?
It's
and
it's
not
like
we're,
sell
quickly,
make
a
description
that
we're
gonna
go
to
this
event
that
we
aren't
otherwise
making
excited
about.
Just
because
that's
where
background
should
be
yeah.
A
A
I
think
that
it's
good
to
keep
an
idea
like
of
what's
local
right
because
know.
For
me
it
would
be
really
easy
to
attend
an
event
in
San
Francisco,
because
I
wouldn't
have
to
travel
or
stay
in
a
hotel
or
whatever,
and
so,
if
you
have
a
good
one
in
twenties,
it's
like
that's
kind
of
a
thing
where,
if
we
can
find
a
way
that
it
doesn't
take
like
travel
budget,
where
we
have
people
who
are
local
who
might
want
to
attend
anyway,
that
could
be
good
but
yeah.
We
don't.
A
We
don't
have
any
of
that
any
budget
for
any
event
stuff
now
and
we
do
a
lot
of
attending
jubilance
anyway.
So
it
makes
sense
for
us
to
like
evangelize
back
while
we're
there,
but
it
doesn't
serve
the
need
of
there
like
what
larger
community
outreach.
It's
like.
You
know
that
comes
in
under
dribble
people.
So
does
that,
but
there's
a
lot
more
people
we
compete,
but
yeah,
so
I
think
I.
Think
just
luck
for
me
personally!
A
I,
don't
have
those
other
events
in
mind
because
I've
lived
in
a
gerbil
event
world
for
so
long,
but
I
think
that
trying
to
get
on
some
of
these
mailing
lists
or
just
staying
more
in
touch
with
nonprofit
tech
communities
in
that
local
area.
For
me
personally,
I'm
interested
in
that
anyway,
I
just
think
figure
out
how
to
do
it.
C
Well,
exactly
share
that
in
Chris,
but
just
the
inertia
keeps
me
going
to
Drupal
of
that.
So
it's
kind
of
these
other
events-
oh
yeah,
I,
think
so
something
I've
been
thinking
a
bit
about.
Lately,
that's
a
bigger
topic.
Then
we
can
talk
about
today.
I'm
gonna,
throw
it
I
would
tear
now
is
thinking
about
organization
and
I.
C
Think
one
of
the
things
that
the
way
probably
a
lot
of
open-source
communities-
and
certainly
our
community
is
working
is
everybody
is
doing
a
little
bit
of
everything
and
like
I,
think
any
large,
volunteer
organization
or
or
or
anything
would
be
more
structured
and
I.
Don't
know
like
what
attempts
have
been
made
in
the
past
and
open-source
communities
to
do
that
part
of
it
as
resources
and
part
of
it
is
because
we're
all
volunteers
but
like
like
who
is
the
person
who's
thinking
about
this
right?
C
C
B
There's
a
few
like
Governors
and
st.
Joe's
training
for
nonprofit
organizations
in
Auckland,
ok,
yeah.
But
the
thing
is
that
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
paid
event
or
not
it's
the
founders
on
Eventbrite
and
other
upcoming
events.
So
I
could
do
some
of
these,
like
I.
Could
I
could
take
a
day
off
from
work
if
it's
on
the
week
thing
all
right
and
maybe
yet
present
there
like,
if
the?
B
If
your,
because
there's
also
for
not
only
for
nonprofits
but
for
small
business
as
well,
it's
as
digital
strategies
for
small
business
and
nonprofits
free
business
training,
but
maybe
these
are
targeted,
as
in
they're
created
by
all
the
people
to
promote
their
product
or
services
or
whatever
so
I'm,
not
sure
if
and
how
I
can
hook
up.
But
now
that
we're
discussing
this
know
look
good
up
kind
of
bad
timing.
Now
I'm
going
away
for
like
six
weeks
so
yeah,
maybe
while
I'm
away
beautiful,
say.
A
No
to
your
boy
about
like
trying
to
find
some
way
to
structure
and
organize
volunteers,
I
think
the
I
mean
obviously
what
we
need
right
now.
We
have
a
lot
of
things
we
want
to
do,
and
we
only
have
so
many
volunteers,
and
so
that's
part
of
the
problem
is
that
you
know
we're
all
a
little
unfocused
cuz
we're
all
trying
to
do
everything
but
I
think
you're,
right,
I!
A
Think
if
we
had
something
just
like
written
down,
that
was
like
a
vision
of
like
this
is
what
we'd
like
people
might
fall
into,
that
a
little
bit
more
easily
than
right
now,
where,
if
you
try
and
do
everything
all
the
time
we're
going
at
it,
so
we're
going
to
burn
out
situation.
We're
like
look!
These
are
the
things
these
are
the
way
we
want
to
organize.
You
want
to
have
like
some
people
to
go
to
events
and
evangelize.
A
You
want
some
people
that,
like
great
blog
posts
and
evangelize,
want
to
have
some
people
that
don't
wear
in
the
meeting
I
think
it
might
be
helpful
to
have
like
clear
jobs
and
say
if
you,
if
you
want
to
own,
you
know
Oh
outside
community,
whatever
you
can
make
that
into
whatever
you
want
it
to
be.
You
still
have
the
freedom
to
you
know
volunteer
in
every
way
you
want,
but
at
least
you
know
like
this
is
a
position
that
we
are
going
to
be
and
I.
A
C
Let
me
give
some
examples:
there
was
a
guy
who
I
got
to
a
couple
time.
Who,
specifically
when
I
heard
I
was
doing
backdrop
was
all
excited
and
said:
oh
yeah,
you
just
you
got
to
invite
me
to
one
of
your
meetings
because
I'd
love
to
come
and
help
out
and
I
am
super.
You
know
in
one
he
doesn't
need
an
invitation
and
I
told
him
that,
but
what
he
was
basically
asking
was
to
be
reminded,
I'm
really
embarrassed
to
say
it's
now,
four
months
later
and
I've,
yet
to
follow
up
with
him.
C
Another
quick
example
was
I
had
I
think
this
is
perfect
for
the
outrage
when
we
think
about
different
ways
of
doing
things.
The
scenario
with
this
module
a
couple
weeks
ago
that
the
black
background
color
one
I,
think
you
commented
on
the
issue.
I,
don't
know
if
you
saw
my
issue
in
our
interpreter.
We
talked
about
this
yesterday
and
dinner,
but
I
was
looking
for
a
module
like
that.
I
found
the
the
Drupal
one
I
went
through
the
process.
I
started
the
upgrade
Greta
the
pork
a
little
bit
I
could
do
created
a
project.
C
Put
a
note
in
the
back
drop
katrien,
the
group
of
issues
saying
hey:
I
went
I'm
up
for
this.
If
you're
interested
in
helping
me
that
would
be
great
and
then
I
went
about
my
business
and
ten
days
later,
I
got
a
note
from
him
that
he
imported
it
and
I,
and
then
I
went
back
and
I
said,
oh
and
by
the
way,
if
you'd
like
to
help
maintain
it,
you
know
we'd
be
open
to
that.
You
know.
I
think
is
interesting.
C
I'm
not
taking
this
away
from
you
and
he
followed
up
and
said
yeah
I'm
interested,
and
what
that
story
tells
me
is
that
somebody
focused
on
just
sort
of
reaching
out
and
asking
people
am
following
up
with
them
now
I
plan
to
follow
up
with
this
guy
because
I,
you
know,
like
you,
may
not
I
sure
I
told
them
he
had
to
do
that.
Go
through
the
application
process
and
I
think
it
was
my
mentioning
that
the
triggered
herb
duel
to
do
the
little
webform
it
was
like.
C
C
C
Yeah
but
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
have
a
solution
to
that
and
it's
like
I
feel
like
it's
something
that
I
could
do
and
would
love
to
volunteer
for,
but
I
have
limited
volunteer
time
and
I
keep
getting
don't
getting
sucked
into
other
things
that
I
want
to
do
as
well.
So
that's
that's.
The
difficulty
and
I
think
that
you
all
can
relate
to
that
right,
we're
all
being
problem.
It's
like
if
I
could
only
spend
time
on
this.
One
thing
how
valuable
that
would
but
I
just
you
know:
that's
not
as
much
fun.
Yeah.
B
I
mentioned
this
before
we
shouldn't
be
frustrated
by
the
amount
of
to
do
things
that
we
have
to
do.
It
just
means
that
our
lives
will
never
be
boring.
We
always
have
something
to
and
because
we
love
this
like,
we
always
go
back
to
it
and
we
can
pick
it's
just
that.
You
don't
have
enough
hands
on
deck
at
the
moment
and
that
that
is
natural
thing.
A
A
That's
that's
kind
of
what
we
need
to
figure
out
is
we
have
on
our
contribute
page
there's
like
a
couple
of
big
things
like
oh,
we
could
use
some
help
with
this
and
use
all
of
that.
What
might
be
good
is
to
like
think
about
the
actual
things
we
want
people
doing
like
attend
events,
all
these
other
things
and
make
one
page
on
back
trip.
Seeing
us
at
work.
A
They
feel
like
right.
Now
we
don't
what
we're
say.
We
say
things
I'm
work
with
a
like.
We
write
a
blog
post,
but
there
isn't
like
a
here's,
a
list
of
ideas
like
all
that
stuff
that
you
need
in
order
to
actually
write
a
blog,
post
and
I,
don't
think
we
have
links
there
that
drive
people
to
that
information
either
so
I
think
that
would
be.
That
would
be
good.
It's
just!
You
know.
We
look.
We
look
at
this
every
week
and
like
oh
there's
so
much
stuff
to
do,
but
this
stuff
isn't
noted
anywhere.
C
So
I
don't
think
following
alongside
I've
been
having
this
in
terms
of
what
I
wanted
again
I
think
there
are
so
many
people
that
will
say
hey
just
tell
me
when
you
need
help
and
then
they
wait
and
wait
wait.
Maybe
it's
not.
You
know
ideal,
but
we
don't
have
a
good
way
to
follow
up,
and
one
of
the
things
that's
occurred
to
me
is
even
like
this
guy,
the
maintainer,
this
guy
who's
volunteering
to
be
a
maintainer.
C
A
C
Like
I
think
the
other
outside
of
open
source,
any
kind
of
volunteer
organization
would
keep
a
database,
so
people
who
volunteered
we're
contacted
for
like
what
you're
interested
in,
and
so
when
you
have
a
need.
You
don't
just
throw
a
note
out
into
Twitter
and
hope
that
the
volunteer
from
six
months
ago
sees
it.
You
go
into
your
database
and
you
say:
oh
look
at
we've
got
several
people
here
who
volunteer
to
help
with
this
kind
of
thing.
Reach
out
to
them.
A
So
we
have
somewhere
that
I
think
Luke
started
working,
but
the
problem
was
setting
up.
I,
see
remittances
that
you
kind
of
have
to
talk
like
a
plan
and
a
vision
ahead
of
time
as
to
what
and
who
will
be-
and
you
have
to
know,
Simeon
how
to
get
there
sort
of
like
Drupal
right
like
I,
want
a
website
isn't
good
enough.
A
E
A
If
then,
we
could
have
another
option
for
volunteers
right,
and
if
somebody
took
that
box
on
their
profile,
they
would
get
moved
into
a
list,
so
we
could
have
other
ways
to
do
that,
but
I
don't
know
how
to
set
up
the
tool
that
manages
that
which
I
think
is
sort
of
what
we're
waiting
for
there's
also
in
terms
of
like
cost-benefit
analysis
like
right,
we're
in
a
chicken
and
egg
thing
right,
we're
like
right.
Now
we
don't
have
enough.
We
don't
have
anyone.
Who's
checked
that
box.
A
A
How
do
I
and
then
we're
done,
then
what
like
do
are
we
gonna
benefit
from
that
huge
amount
of
effort,
or
should
my
Africa?
That's
more
else.
I
mean
eventually
we
would
so
it's
not
like
waste
of
time,
but
it's
hard
to
prioritize
I.
Think
without
the
immediate
we
can
see
it
right
there,
so
I
really
need
it.
I
don't
know.
A
A
B
We
have
a
ticket
thing
with
goals,
because
the
way
that
I
see
it
is
like
yet
people
in
the
being
the
tool
in
that
database
and
then
ask
them
what
they
are
willing,
the
ones
that
our
volunteer
is
what
they're
willing
to
volunteer.
Some
people
are
going
to
be
designed
there,
so
I'm
getting
people
gonna
be
fun,
then
there's
black
and
there's
like
coders.
So
if
we
manage
to
sort
of
like
group
them
into
that
and
then
get
tasks
for
its
group,
then
we
can
send
emails
and
say
we
need
help
with
this.
C
What
I'm
going
to
suggest
is
that
is
that,
like
Luke
and
I,
and
maybe
at
most
one
other
person,
cuz
I,
don't
want
to
fragment
the
rest
of
us
any
more
than
that
set
up
a
subcommittee.
But
it's
a
small
subcommittee
with
a
specific
focus
of
like
we'll
figure
out
and
meet
on
our
own.
You
know
set
asides
because
that's
what
helps
me
is
they
have
some
time
blocked
on
and
you
know
I'd
be
happy
to
reach
out
to
Luke
and
say:
hey.
C
B
A
B
B
B
C
C
Okay,
I
I
think
we
should
one
more
thing
n
structure
and
for
the
volunteer
management
right.
This
could
be
the
first
step
towards
and
I'm
oddly
I
think
we
need
to
get
away
from.
You
know,
meetings
that
everybody
feels
like
they
should
go
to
and
trying
to
maybe
bear
more.
Like
some
groups,
like
you
know,
maybe
the
Outreach
Committee,
ideally
six
months
from
now.
A
It
would
be
very
similar
to
what
we're
doing
with
the
core
issues
where,
if
nothing
happens,
that's
fine,
but
at
least
we
have
someone
who's
like
I'm,
trying
to
push
this
forward,
and
you
can
do
whatever
you
want
like.
It
still
gives
you
the
freedom
to
like
you
know
you
don't
have
to
have
a
regular
meeting
set
up
with
Lucan,
agree
or
whoever
I
think
I
would
be
great.
Nope,
okay,.
C
Gonna,
let
me
throw
out
another
thing:
that's
a
different
thing
on
the
agenda:
videos
that
that
keeps
coming
up
so
two
weeks
ago,
I
sat
down,
got
screencasting
stuff
and
worked
out
and
I
started.
I
did
a
video
and
my
intention
was
to
do
a
couple
more
of
fairly
quickly
and
I.
Haven't
got
back
to
that
and
part
of
it
is
what
we
already
talked
about.
The
want
me
to
do
eight
different
things.
C
Oh
I,
can
just
ignore
this
and
move
on
I
don't
want
to
move
on
and
what
I'm
doing
background
stuff,
anyways
I
might
as
well
report
this.
So
I
just
I,
don't
know
I'm
sharing
this
a
bit,
isn't
an
anecdote,
but
also
that
I
like
the
feel
blocks.
It's
the
next
video
I
want
to
do
and
I've
actually
started
working
on
it,
but
then
I
got
distracted
by
these
bugs,
which
I
think
is
an
equally
good.
C
B
One
thing
is
that
no
matter
how
small
the
video
like
within
5
or
10
minutes,
yeah
shouldn't
that
underestimate
it,
because
it
takes
multiple
times
that
time
to
get
it
done,
yeah
be
as
preparation
or
multiple
takes,
because
you
got
it
wrong
or
because
you
found
a
problem,
as
you
said,
and
then
you
have
to
go
a
few
steps
back
and
see
trace
it
over
file
issues,
or
what
have
you
right
so
so
it
is
yeah.
This
head
will
get
there.
C
A
B
Another
another
idea
on
that
is,
if
you
find
old,
YouTube
videos
of
Drupal
tutorials
like
triple
7
tutorials,
where
people
mention
like
you're
using
three
or
four
modules
and
configuring
things
here
and
there,
but
we
have
it
in
core
or
anything
like
that.
You
create
a
video
for
that
and
then
you
go
into
that
YouTube
video
and
say:
hey
guys.
If
you
want
to
know,
there's
three
steps
that
you
can
easily
do
that
in
my
trouble.
Just
is.
A
A
So
I
do
exactly
the
same
thing:
Tim.
Sometimes
when
we're
doing
training
we'll
run
it,
though
bugs
like
that,
and
so
at
the
end
of
the
training
fast
I
have
like
an
entire
sheet
of
paper.
That's
like!
Oh,
we
should
fix
this
or
we
should
add
that
I
Richard
whatever
and
then
that
week,
I'm
like
okay
I,
just
generated
like
15,
more
issues
for
back
down
but
I.
A
A
B
The
thing
is
that
even
triple
I'm,
looking
at
least
now
I
won't
going
to
be
7
or
whatever
it's
like
21,000
plus
open
issues
at
this
point,
and
we
inherited
Lee
got
that
product
right,
we
fixed
like
a
thousand
or
whatever,
but
there's
still
weighing
many
more
so
you'll
be
discovering.
This
is
another
thing
that
is
natural.
It's
like
it
shouldn't
frustrate.
You
like
I,
actually
find
interest
in
that.
Now
that
my
talk
yeah.
C
A
I
think
sometimes
people
get
like
people
who
aren't
familiar
with
the
way
of
open-source
works.
We'll
look
at
something
like
that.
Oh
my
gosh,
you
have
3000
open
issues
in
this
like
well,
look
at
how
many
things
the
software
does
correctly,
but
there's
way
more
than
like
three
hundred
thousand
things
that
it
does
right
and
then
they're
like
okay.
So
this
is
complicated
software
and
it
works
pretty
well
considering
all
the
stuff
that
it
does.
So
most
of
those
issues
are
on
fatal
errors.
I
think
you
know.
B
Exactly
and
yeah,
and
out
of
the
21,000
that
I
said,
open
issue
is
only
less
than
10,000
is
like
bugs.
The
other
ones
are
feature
requests
or
questions.
So
it's
the
same
with
us
yeah
and
because,
as
developers,
we
tend
to
sort
of
like
break
things
into
smaller
tasks,
because
that's
how
it
works,
and
it
makes
our
life
easier
right
and
we
have
follow-up
issues
and
stuff
that
it's
not
like
a
single
ticket
fix
everything.
B
E
A
Tend
that's
something
where
it's
in
my
mind
like
to?
Maybe
I
should
do
it
before.
Hangouts
goes
away,
but
I
have
like
at
all
these
things.
They're,
like
I,
really
want
to
show
people
this
and
backed
up
and
then
I
just
never
get
to
actually
making
it,
but
yeah.
There
is
like
kind
of
a
process
involved
there
that
a
little
bit
of
a
hurdle.
B
Do
you
guys
have
in
your
local
communities,
mentoring
like
regular
mentoring
sessions,
drupal
much
decisions
like
user
groups
or
so
English
like
in
Melbourne?
We
in
Australia
in
general,
like
we
have
the
Sydney
meetups
the
mobile
make
ups,
but
besides
the
meetups,
we
also
have
mentoring
groups
which
is
like
like
regular,
like
every
Saturday
or
every
second
Saturday
people
gather
together,
and
it's
like
people
that
have
never
touched
struggle
before
and
there's
a
couple
of
people
that
are
knowledgeable
and
they
just
sort
of
like
organize
these
events.
They
go
to
a
usually
there.
B
The
place
is
a
library
like
a
public
library
or
people
get
into
a
computer
room,
and
just
you
know,
discuss
it,
might
be
people
thinking
of
building
a
new
side
or
ones
that
have
one
Drupal
site,
and
maybe
there
I
don't
know
small
IT,
one
that
one-man
IT
group
that
has
been
headed
up
to
Poseidon.
He
wants
to
learn
how
to
sort
of
like
maintain
it
things
like
that.
Do
you
have
such
groups
such
activities
in
your
local
communities,.
A
C
We
have
done
stuff
like
that
off
and
on
I
have
I've
been
thinking
about
starting
sort
of
a
play
with
that
ground
group.
That's
just
meant
to
be
sort
of
like
that,
where
it's
sort
of
informal
and
it's
at
least
once
a
month
or
every
two
weeks
and
it's
I,
know
one
or
two
there's
at
least
two
other
local
people
that
are
interested
in
playing
with
backdrop
and
I.
Think
if
we
started
doing
something
regular
we'd
bring
in
some
more
so
yeah.
B
It's
like
I
grab
a
coffee
common
our
Saturday
morning,
not
very
early,
but
not
you
know
well
just
one
hour
of
your
day.
So
this
is
how
I
attend
it,
actually
one
or
two
of
them,
but
then
the
level
of
I
was
looking
to
learn
more
than
two
then
to
contribute
and
the
people
that
are
where
attending
were
people
that
were
not
exposed
to
Drupal.
Before
no
was
it
earning
anything
out
of
it.
I
was
hoping,
but
yeah
I
got
drawn
into
more
interesting
stuff
sure
so
I
stopped
going.
There
I
think.
A
That
we
used
to
have
events.
There
was
a
space
in
Oakland
where
people
used
talk
about
a
meetup
that
was
devoted
to
mentorship,
but
it
was
a
while
ago,
I
think
like
we
used
to
have
all
seven
people
meetups
every
month,
and
now
we
have
one,
maybe
two
and
so
I
think
just
you
know
there
isn't
the
same
number
of
concentrated
people
that
anymore,
but
I
always
thought
so.
Ours
really
like
two
hours,
and
it
was
nothing
like
Wednesday
after
work
and
Pisa
was
provided
or
something
like
bring.
A
Your
questions
well
chat
over
pizza,
bring
your
computers.
If
you
want
to
stay
after
pizza
and
look
at
something
there
will
be
people
here
to
help
you.
So
this
is
sort
of
a
really
casual
thing
and
I
thought
it
was
really
great.
I
went
a
couple
of
times
as
a
mentor
and
then
one
time
there
wasn't
anyone
there
who
needed
to
learn
anything,
and
so
I
just
started
to
talk
in
the
organizer
about
a
problem.
I
was
having
in
and
I
and
you're
getting
mentored
and
I'm
like
this
is
amazing.
B
B
Just
don't
have
the
better
lower-energy
time
war
or
interest
in
doing
that,
but
I
admire
people
that
do
that
and
if
I
could
find
one
person
that
I
could
hook
on
look
I'll
say:
look
I'll,
do
the
presentation
all
the
helping,
but
you
have
to
organize
it
the
rest
of
the
staff.
Then
I
would
be
interested
to
do
that.
C
One
of
the
things
I
preach
is
don't
don't
get
hung
up
on
the
organizing,
just
find
a
coffee
shop
with
a
big
enough
table
and
we're
gonna
meet
there.
Don't
worry
about
sponsorships,
don't
worry
about
if
you
get
those
sometimes
I
start
to
organize
that
way,
and
then
somebody
steps
up
and
says:
oh,
come
on
over
to
our
place
and
we'll
pay
for
pizza
well
great,
but
yeah
I,
don't
like
wait.
Till
I
got
the
pizzas
before
I
plan.
C
It
I
just
what
we
didn't
have
an
open
bar
or
coffee
shop
and
impact
that
was
my
first
hackathon
I
organized
in
the
Twin
Cities
I.
Just
like
identified
a
coffee
shop
and
I
said
two
weeks
from
Saturday.
I'm
gonna
be
hacking
in
this
coffee
shop.
Anybody
wants
to
come
and
join
me.
They
can.
We
had
about
four
people
show
up
yeah.
B
Yeah
that'd
be
an
interesting
idea.
Maybe
I'll
just
just
do
that
at
some
point.
One
thing
that
before
we
go
to
the
dev
meeting
that
was
product
on
keto
was
by
you
I
think
my
mentioning
backdrop
in
the
Drupal
slap
you're
gonna
go
there,
but
I
wasn't
gonna
go
there.
So
my
my
handle
in
the
local
Drupal
slack
thing
is
the
backdrop
scene
has
died,
I'm,
not
sure.
If
you
were
following
then
so
have
you
have
you
seen
so
team
brought
up
during
this
week?
C
A
C
Know
the
backdrop
is
a
little
bit
not
the
same
yeah
that
far
off
in
it
I
wasn't
I
was
I,
wasn't
suggesting
we
do
anything
unilaterally
and
I'm,
not
suggesting
that
we
replace
our
regular.
You
know
channel,
but
that
there
be
a
space,
and
you
know
my
initial
thought
is
just
to
like
casually
mention
it
to
some
of
the
the
organizers
and
see
what,
if
they
would
objector
yeah.
A
C
B
A
few
of
the
guys,
either
by
name
or
I,
met
them
in
one
of
the
Drupal
events,
Drupal
staff
that
happens
here
and
when
there
was
the
Gold
Coast.
Whatever
was
the
meetup
when
I
mentioned
I
guys,
would
you
like
to
see
a
presentation
on
backdrop?
There
were
a
few
people
that
said:
okay
yeah,
don't
mind,
but
there
was
one
person
that
I
was
actually
he's.
He
was
Ozzy,
but
he's
four
years
now
has
moved
to
the
US,
so
he
was
not
even
local
leaders
involved.
B
B
C
A
If
you
do
that,
get
that
today,
so
I
have
a
couple
of
separate
lists
like
right
now
in
its
available
list.
It's
just
like
all
the
people,
but
I
also
have
like
a
separate
list
of
like
who
originally
gave
us
money,
which
I
think
we
good
to
track
those
separately.
So
the
weekend
right,
you
know,
send
thank-you
messages
or
whatever
yeah.
B
I
still
do
not
did
not
get
a
definitive
answer
from
my
accountant
with
regards
to
donating
at
the
end
of
the
financial
year.
If
that's
deducted-
and
it's
not
only
for
my
benefit,
it's
just
I
could
tell
other
people
like
hey.
If
you
wanna,
you
know,
donate
at
the
end
of
the
year,
you
can
donate
to
this.
C
So
let
me
bring
up
another
quick.
We
have
a
few
minutes
yeah,
but
the
cool
thing
that
I'm
not
sure
what
the
best
process
words
but
herb
dual
brought
up
yesterday,
a
get
her
again
like.
Is
there
a
better
tool
and
I?
Don't
know
if
you
saw
this
Jen,
but
he
suggested
this:
what's
it
called
deulim,
which
is
an
open
doula,
it's
an
open
source,
I
platform
it
they
will
host
it
for
free
for
not
for
open
source
groups.
C
C
Anyways
I
don't
think
we
should
make
any
hasty
decisions
on
something
like
that,
but
herb
and
I
suggested
that
maybe
well.
First
of
all,
we
both
logged
in
created
accounts
in
their
shortest
hanboks
and
we're
turning
with
each
other
I
think
it
would
be
a
bit.
It's
initially
struck
me
as
a
little
bit
ugly,
but
frankly
get
or
did
as
well
when
I
first
got
here,
yeah,
it's
a
lot
of
features.
I
think
it
would
be
much
more
powerful
tool,
it's
much
closer
to
flack,
but
it's
open
source
does.
C
A
C
C
A
A
A
C
Good
to
wrap
this
rule
up
thing
up,
I
think
it's
to
me.
It
could
be
an
outrage
thing
just
in
that
I.
Don't
think
it
are
very
welcoming
tool
it's
in,
but
I
think
the
the
process
I
would
recommend
that
the
process
did
for
something
like
this.
Be
there,
especially
where
there
are,
we
could
host
it
with
them
for
frame,
which
means
there's
no
that'll
keep
messages
forever.
If
you
can
run
a
bunch
of
channels,
it
has
a
lot
more.
C
You
can
do
emojis
and
respond
that
I
think
a
lot
of
features
that
the
slack
has
that
we
don't
have
and
I
would
just
think.
Let's
get
us
set
up
an
instance
of
it.
I
saw
you
set
up
a
slack
incidents
for
backdrop
right
just
play
with
it
and
I
say
we
do
the
same
thing
with
Zul
up.
We
invite
six
or
seven
of
us.
We
just
play
with
a
bit
on
the
side,
and
you
know
for
a
few
and
then
come
back
to
this
fading.
So.
A
I
think
if
we
were
going
to
choose
another
tool,
it
would
probably
be
slack
just
because
everybody
is
already
on
slack
and
I
think
that
the
reason
that
Gator
was
attractive
to
us
is
the
kids.
Everybody
could
use
their
github
user
accounts
and
it
integrated
with
github
but
I
think
any
service
that
requires
like
work
to
get
integration
working.
That's
not
slack,
isn't
gonna
work.
A
Just
it's
like
the
same
reason
like
we
could
have
posted
our
software
project
on
any
other
place,
but
we
put
it
on
github
because
everyone's
on
get
I
think
that's
the
reason
people
are
moving
just
like
conservatories
already
on
it's
like
you,
don't
have
to
have
another
app
open.
You
don't
have
to
do
whatever
the
one
thing
that
another
thing
I
really
liked
about
git
or
that
we
should
check
if
we're
gonna
look,
but
you
have
to
be
able
to
click
access
it
in
a
browser
without
meeting
anything
else.
That's.
A
B
A
B
I
didn't
go
in,
have
you
looked
into
a
rocket
Ted?
No,
so
so
the
amazing
guys,
the
the
company
that
we
sort
of
like
my
agency
works
with
like
an
egg
of
CMS
project.
They
they
are
really
heavily
orientated
towards
open
source
and-
and
although
I'd
can't
remember
the
reasons
they
mentioned
to
us-
that
we
are
cover
placed
slack
with
rocket
at
okay.
I
was
like
I'll,
get
a
link
on
git
er.
B
C
Well,
I
will
always
get
some
pushback
with
slack,
because
there
are
people
who
hate
it
and
also
could
want
to
stay,
was
up
and
starts,
and
that's
why
I
probably
wouldn't
have
even
like
expended
emotional
energy
and
proposing
a
new
chat
platform
if
it
wasn't
open-source
just
because
I
don't
want
to
have
that
fight
not
but
I
feel
strongly
about
it.
Yeah.
A
A
Does
that,
and
so
I
would
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
changing
to
is
going
to
get
people
right,
and
so,
if
we
move
to
slack
rebellion
but
I'm
already
on
slack,
it's
no
problem
like
I,
don't
want
to
use
like
what
I
have
to
be
on
slack
because
well,
my
other
things
I
feel
like
every
developer
is
sort
of
in
that
thing
where
it's
like
when
you're
on
it
anyway,
whether
you
like
it
or
not.
Alright,
that's
open.
Just
that's
very
you.
C
Know
I
hear
you
I,
don't
think
we
would
I
think
we
would
gain
people
by
moving
to
this,
just
because
it's
more
open
in
some
ways,
like
I,
think
one
of
the
problems
with
dinner
right
now
is
we
have
other
channel
in
like
when
it
gets
busy.
It's
like
you
can't
follow
anything
because
you
know
if
Gregory
and
I
start
going
back
and
forth
for
20
minutes.
It's
like
anything
else
that
happened
in
the
last
24
hours
gets
pushed
so
far
back.
B
A
Like
a
channel
that
we're
using
now
is
a
channel
that
was
added,
look,
it
gives
you
one
channel
heard
it
gives
you
three
channels
per
repository,
there's
like
a
general
and
I,
don't
know
whatever,
but,
and
you
can
add
as
many
more
as
you
want
for
it
to
any
group.
So
we
need
more
channels.
We
can
add
more
channels.
Reason
using
one
channel
is
because
we
didn't
want
to
have
a
bunch
of
channels
that
were
quiet
right.
No.
C
I
get
that,
but
I
and
I
feel
like
the
way
git
er
has
channels
set
up.
It
would
be
harder
to
get
multi
channels
going
without
losing
people.
I
think.
The
way
Zul
up
is
setup
is
like
slack
where
you
just
have.
We
were
in
a
a
bat-crap
environment.
There
are
no
other
channels,
they're
all
backdrop,
but
we
can
as
many
channels
as
we
wanted
there
and
it's
much
easier
to
sort
of
just
be
aware
of.
Maybe.
A
C
A
I
just
mean
changing
channels
right
to
use
it
yeah
right,
it's
exactly
the
same
as
so.
You
don't
understand
what
you're
finding
don't
work
all
the
but
like
I,
don't
see,
I
want
to
see
what
you're
seeing
like
I
want
you
because
it
to
me
it's
it's
exactly
the
same
and
I
think
that
anyone
using
any
chat
service
would
owe
the
same.
It's
very
I.
C
Mean
I
would
I
would
say:
I
would
do
that
same
experiment
alongside
either
something
like
slack
slacker
juleps.
So
you
can
see
the
difference
like
between
them
like
it,
how
channels
work
between
those
two,
because,
again
it's
not
that
it's
hard
and
inner
I
think
it's
just
done
differently.
Blackens!
True
love.
You
know
that
it
urges
the
way
I
feels
to
me
like
slacked
and
julep
encouraged
you
to
create
new
channels.
You
know
doesn't
encourage
me
to
do
it's
easy,
but
I
just
it
feels
like
I'm
going
away,
I
don't
know,
but
yeah.
A
It
might
be
just
a
UI
thing,
like
maybe
it's
a
different
color
or
something,
and
that
makes
it
feel
different.
But
oh,
no
I
wanna
see
I
wanna
see
what
looks
like
community.
Are
you
using
the
app
or
using
the
browser?
I
mostly
use
yeah,
okay,
so
yeah?
It
might
just
look
different
and
also
because
I'm,
an
admin
of
the
group,
no
I
might
get
like
a
plus
button,
where
you
don't
get
one
which
might
also
be
something
like,
but
it
functions
exactly
the
same
way.
B
I
use
the
Web
API
a
user,
not
that
sort
of
like
bubbles,
everything
together
slack
and
everything,
and
it
goes
through
the
Web
API,
so
I
guess
I'm
using
the
web
app
as
well
and
I
recently
discovered
that
I
have
the
ability
to
delete
other
people's
comments,
I'm
not
sure
idml
admin.
But
if
I
not,
then
it's
worrisome
our
life,
you
guys
are
you.