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From YouTube: Backdrop outreach - Sept 15th, 2022
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A
Hi
there
it
is
we're
live
on
youtube.
We're
live
on
youtube.
My
name
is
tim
erickson,
I'm
st
paul
tim,
and
this
is
the
weekly
outreach
meeting
today
on
september
15th.
For
those
of
you
who
might
not
be
aware
september,
15th
is
a
special
day.
It
is
release
day
and
releasing
backdrop
1.23
today
and
we're
still
having
a
meeting.
Isn't
that
good
anyways?
Let's
go
ahead
and
do
our
introductions.
My
name
is
well.
I've
already
come
to
erickson,
I'm
in
deerwood
minnesota
and
we
often
share
just
something
interesting.
A
I've
been
working,
it's
been
a
very
busy
week
and
the
big
thing
is
we're
so
close
to
launching
a
long
overdue
dribble,
seven
to
backdrop
for
update
one
that
I'm
really
happy
about,
because
we
put
a
lot
of
extra
time
into
usability
stuff
that
editor
experience
stuff
that,
I
think,
is
going
to
be
cool.
B
So
martin,
do
you
want
to
go
next?
B
Hi
martin
from
the
uk,
yorkshire
pudding
around
backdrop
internet
and
I
looked
out
look
after
the
linkedin
posts
which
haven't
haven't
been
doing
much,
but
so
we'll
be
doing
an
announcement
with
her
release.
So
I
think
we've
got
a
few
quite
cool
things
in
there.
So
it'll
be
quite
good,
so
yeah,
that's
all
go
to
jen.
C
Hi
jen
lampton,
joining
from
oakland
california
very
excited
about
release
day.
Oh
also,
very
excited
about
open
source
day,
which
is
tomorrow,
yeah,
so
cool
stuff
in
the
future
and
backed
up
live
she's.
Also
a
few
weeks
away.
D
A
Well
and
robert
thanks
for
we
had
a
gen,
I
don't
know
if
you
caught
up
yet,
but
we
had
some
issues
on
backdrop:
dot
org
yesterday,
just
a
weird
config
thing:
it's
discussed
in
the
backdrop
infrastructure
stream
in
zula.
A
If
you
want
to
follow
through
but
robert
well,
we
had
some
a
config
that
got
overwritten
we're.
Not.
I
don't
think
we
ever
figured
out.
How
did
we
robert
or
what
exactly
what
happened?
No.
D
Idea
what
how
a
config
file
or
a
text
format
magically
went
away,
but
we
found
an
old
copy
and
put
it
back
and
things
working
again.
C
Was
this
like
the
standard
plus
data.
C
They
might
have
been
needed
somewhere
else
since
then.
I
don't
know,
but
I
don't
remember
what
I
was
working
on.
I
think
it
was
the
it
was
the
meetings
page.
D
You
know
sensitive
information,
so
I
mean
one
of
the
motivations
for
creating
standard
plus
tokens
was
that
that
was
only
accessible
to
editor
and
developer
because
of
that
potential
for
exposure
anyhow,
the
thing
is,
we
already
have
a
bunch
of
pages
that
use
the
standard
plus
tokens
and
when
the
text
format
went
away,
they
all
reverted
to
plain
text
which
then
wiped
out
and
they
were
showing
up
blank
or
nearly
blank
yeah.
But
we
put
standard
plus
tokens
back
and
the
pages
are
restored
and
everything
seems
to
be
happening.
C
Okay
and
does
the
does
the
meetings
page
work,
because
that
wasn't
working
for
me
because
somebody
had
switched
the
format
so
all
of
the
html
that
was
in
there
had
gone
missing.
So
I
went
back
and
changed
it
like.
I
put
all
the
headings
back
in
the
font.
Awesome
icons
are
still
missing,
but
I
figured
those
weren't
important,
so
yeah
I
don't
know.
I
think
I
feel
like
one
of
the
text
formats
probably
doesn't
allow
like
h3s
or
h4s,
or
something
like
that.
Anyway,
we
can
look
at
it
later.
C
I'm
glad
you
figured
out
what
the
problem
was
and
got
it
working
again,
but
I
don't
think
I
so
that
was
probably
my
fault.
I
don't
think
I
did
anything
to
the
formats
intentionally
anyway
other
than
looking
at
them
and
saying
oh,
I
need
to
change
the
format
and
switching
it
to
get
that
and
I
think
I
switched
it
to
like
full
html
or
something
so
I
wouldn't
have
gone
back
to
standard.
I
would
have
gone
up
the
next
one.
D
A
Not
a
big
deal,
the
the
the
event,
the
events
themselves
used
them
and
so
the
office.
Basically,
we
had
three
different
office
hour
notes
and
they
all
used
that
thing
and
they
were
broken
and
then
I
think
the
event
that
the
meetings
page
was
still
broken
yesterday
when
I
went
to
it,
I
couldn't
see
anything
so,
but
I
think
we
fixed,
I
think
we
fixed
all
those
pages
and,
as
far
as
I
know,
they
would
be
the
only
ones
I
can
think
of.
A
Yeah,
I
think
it
was
this
anything
that
that
had
the
tokens
on
it
would
have
possibly
been
a
problem.
A
A
Okay
and
martin,
you
might
have
actually
had
something
to
do
with
adding
tokens
to
a
few
pages.
D
D
It
looks
good
right
now
I
mean
I
just
switched
it
and
it
looks
and
looks
completely
okay.
I
suspect
the
reason
it
looked
broken
was
because
that
text
format
have
mysteriously
vanished,
and
when
that
happens,
then
things
revert
to
the
lowest
common
denominator
and
so,
like
html,
all
sorts
of
stuff
html
tokens
right
render
yeah.
Well,
I
hit.
C
C
C
A
A
D
C
If,
if
the
somebody
had
created
a
piece
of
content
with
heading
like
html
tags,
that
aren't
allowed,
switched
it
to
a
text
format
with
an
editor
where
the
headings
were
not
allowed
and
hit,
save
that
would
delete
the
content.
And
so
what
I
found
when
I
edited
is
that
the
content
had
been
deleted,
like
all
the
tags
have
been
deleted.
So.
C
What
I
was
worried
about
is
the
actual
like
deletion
of
data,
whereas
when
a
text
format
is
missing,
none
of
the
data
has
changed.
It's
just
how
it's
rendering
so
it's
much
easier
to
like
change
the
text
formats,
to
get
it
to
look
right
rather
than
have
to
like
re-edit
all
the
content,
but
anyway
I
don't
know
how
it
got
to
how
it
was
in
the
first
place
and
I'm
glad
that
it's
fixed
now.
So
here
we
go.
C
A
Good,
okay,
thank
you,
robert
and
what
else?
So,
let's
move
on
to
just
quickly,
I
think
it
was
before
we
got
on
started.
Recording
we
talked
about
the
fact
there
is
a
release
day
and
there's
a
bunch
of
work
that
has
to
be
done,
so
we
could
try
to
move
through
our
items
quickly
and
then
actually
do
some
work,
because
there's
something
or
we
will
see
how
the
meeting
goes.
But
we
do
have
to
talk
about
bad
camp.
A
We
should
talk
about
open
source
day
tomorrow
and
a
backdrop
live,
and
we
could
also.
I
don't
know
if
there's
anything
special
about
the
release
in
terms
of
outreach
that
we
want
to
talk
about
today.
Those
are
the
four
obvious
topics:
what
the
blog
post
yeah
right,
that
that
would
be
the
the
most
obvious
one,
I'm
more
I'm
thinking
about!
I
keep
pondering.
Is
there
something
more?
A
We
should
be
doing
that
isn't
on
our
list
right
now,
for
example,
and
if
sarvashri
were
here,
he
might
say
you
know
reach
out
like
this
might
be
the
kind
of
thing
that
we
should
be
announcing
to
other
organizations
or
some
of
the
media
sites,
and
I
haven't
looked
closely
at
the
the
list
of
contacts
that
he
gave
us,
but
you
know
like
it
might
not
hurt
to
reach
out
to
that
drupal
times
and
just
let's
make
sure
they
know
that
we
have
a
release
because
they
might
actually
cover
that.
A
So
that's
the
kind
of
thing
I'm
thinking
about
it.
I
don't
know
if,
unless
some
people
have
specific
ideas,
I'll
put
it
on
myself
to
just
check
the
list
that
sarajevo
generated
and
also
go
back.
I
know
we
have
an
issue
that
listed
some
some
contacts
in
the
issue
queue
and
make
sure
that
we
have.
A
You
know
that
we're
trying
to
reach
out
just
maybe
maybe
do
it
like
a
mini
press
release,
just
a
push,
an
email
that
you
know.
You
know,
let's
beat
these
people
home,
that
we
didn't
release
anyways
anything
else
that
anybody
can
think
of.
In
terms
of
release
day
related
stuff,
the
blog
post,
if
anybody
so
I
have
a
super
busy
schedule
now
I've
written
some
of
the
blog
posts
recently,
not
all
of
them.
C
I
have
a
to-do
list
on
my
agenda
today
to
go
through
all
of
the
closed
issues
for
the
milestone,
and
that
includes
adding
a
paragraph
for
release
section
on
the
bottom
and
after
I
do
that
it
should
be
much
easier
for
other
people
to
look
at
all
the
issues
and
pull
all
those
paragraphs
and
make
the
blog
post.
So
I'm
I'm
committing
to
do
that.
Preparation
today
on
all
of
those
issues.
So
anyone
wants
to
assemble
those
into
a
post.
A
C
A
Help:
okay,
obviously
we'll
do
the
normal
tweets
martin,
if
you
could
just
be
prepared
to
do
a
linkedin
announcement,
you
know
today
or
tomorrow,
just
announcing
that
there's
a
release
out.
That
would
be
great
other
than
that.
I
can't
think
of
anything
so.
B
Yeah
it'll
be
early
tomorrow
because
that
won't
be.
I
won't
be
up
when,
when
it's
released
so.
A
Yeah,
obviously,
your
time
zone,
especially
given
how
late
late
we're
doing
at
this
time
for
sure.
Well,
not
that
that's
unusual,
it's
often
late
anyways,
okay,
tomorrow
morning's
fine-
and
in
fact
you
know,
there's
there's
always
there's
been
an
argument
about
not
making
too
big
a
deal
about
it
till
a
few
days
afterwards,
just
in
case
anything
goes
wrong,
but
but
I
think
we
do
usually
at
least
put
it
on
social
media,
pretty
quick,
but
what
we've?
What
we
have
held
off
is
on
a
newsletter
announcement.
A
I
think
we've
usually
waited
a
week
or
two
right
trying
to
to
do
sort
of
a
big
newsletter
about
the
new
release,
just
to
give
it
time
to
settle
okay.
Should
we
move
on
how
about
bad
camp?
Let's
talk
about
bad
camp
next,
and
just
I
can
so
bad
camp
sessions
have
been
selected
jen.
I
did
get
a
note
from
the
bad
camp
folks
telling.
A
Session
was
on,
hold
was
pending
and
I
it
wasn't
clear
to
me
if
it
was
pending
word
from
you
or
if
it
was
pending.
Like
an
opening
that
came
up,
I
did
I
sort
of
followed
up
with
with
them.
I
think
they
didn't
know
that
my
so
I
have
a
backed
up
case
study
that
I
submitted
to
bat
camp
and
it's
not
been
officially
accepted
yet,
but
they
haven't
rejected
it
yet
either
we
are
planning
to
do
a
a
bad
camp
or
a
backdrop
summit
for
a
half
day
right
during
bad
camp.
A
Why
don't
you
update
us
on
that
channel?
Even
if
it's
see
an
update
so.
C
Assignment
will
be
friday
morning,
nine
to
noon.
Pacific
time
I
don't
have
an
official
agenda
for
it
yet,
but
I
have
reached
out
to
zach
chandler
from
stanford
and
he
said
that
he
would
be
there
and
he
would
love
to
share
a
little
bit
about
the
stanford
sites,
which
I
thought
would
be
compelling
for
people,
and
I
thought
we
could
do
like,
maybe
like
a
20
minute
slide
deck
of
like
what
is
backdrop.
C
We
have
an
old
one
that
can
probably
update
to
stuff
that's
relevant
today
and
then
I
thought
it
might
be
valuable
to
do
a
couple
of
different
showcases
stanford
being
one
of
them,
but
maybe
we
could
do
some
other
sites
that
were
a
little
different
and
then
I
don't
know
what
else
we
can
do.
C
We
only
have
three
hours,
so
it
also
asks
people
in
the
room
what
they're
hoping
to
learn
and
see
if
we
can
help
talk
about
upgrades
of
the
one
about
upgrades
or
building
sites
with
commerce
or
whatever
their
questions
are
around
that.
A
Well,
I
will
have
my
if
they
don't
accept
my
my
showcase
and
if
we
wanted
another
showcase
case
study,
I
I
could
do
something
quick,
here's
another
thought
which
leads
into
the
next
thing.
So
the
other
thing
that's
happening
is
irena
has
been
pushing
for
a
backdrop
sprint
at
bad
camp
and
I
think
she's
sort
of
got
that
officially
on
the
schedule
is
my
understanding.
She
had
a
meeting.
I
think
yesterday
with
the
bad
camp
folks
and
the
the
plan
was
to
do
that
on
on
friday
afternoon.
A
So
I
wonder
if
one
of
the
things
we
couldn't
do
jen
for
the
morning
in
case
we
get
people
that
are
advanced
users
that
show
up
is
give
them
sort
of.
So
you
could
have
sort
of
the
beginner
track,
which
is
the
discussions
you
talked
about
and
then,
but
if
you
know
some
people
should
show
up
that
want
to
like
just
jump
right
into
the
sprinting.
A
A
So
yeah,
I
that's
sort
of
my
thought
on
on
how
to
think
about
the
schedules
you
to
proceed
to
doing
what
you
are,
but
we
just
have
the
the
sort
of
early
start
on
the
sprint
as
a
an
option
for
people
that
might
want
to
do
that.
It
could
even
be
simultaneously
some
people
sitting
at
the
back
of
the
road
listening
but
sprinting.
A
C
Yeah,
I
I
don't
know.
C
Rooms
set
up
for
boss.
I
think
that
they're
thinking
that
total
attendance
for
the
event
will
be
around
200,
which
is
pretty
small,
and
I
think
they
have
three
or
four
rooms
going
at
the
same
time.
A
The
other
thing
is
just
like
social
media
or
you
know,
do
we
have
a
you
know
an
informal
happy
hour
for
backdrop,
folks,
just
anybody,
anybody
curious
that
wasn't
able
you
know.
Maybe
at
the
end
of
the
day
on
friday,
we
you
know
between
whatever
there's
any
official
event
we
just
get
together
for
coffee
or
beers
between
that's
another
option.
I
don't
know
we.
C
A
A
Okay,
like
there's
still
a
chance
that
I
might
try
to
get
out
there.
If
I
do
it'll
be
like
the
first.
A
Sort
of
meet
with
people
in
several
years
right
and
anything
we
can
do
to
encourage
and
facilitate
that,
but
there's
a
lot
of
there's
a
whole
cooperating
with
drupal.
This
is
another,
I'm
sure
there'll
be
some
people
there
from
like
the
drupal
association,
even
if
on
their
own-
and
this
would
be
a
you
know
great.
We
should
just
keep
that
in
mind
that
this
is
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
back
channel
with
people
that
we
haven't
had
a
chance
to
back
with
our
channel.
A
Let's
move
on
to
backdrop
live,
and
so
I
haven't
been
doing
anything
on
it.
I
think
at
the
last
meeting
we
asked
people
to
touch
the
registration
process
and
I
think
one
or
two
people
did,
and
I
think
they
had
some
minor
feedback.
I
don't
know
if
we
did
anything
with
that
feedback.
I've
been
reluctant
to
promote
registration
because
I
haven't
tried
it
myself
and
I
wasn't
quite
sure
if
we
dealt
with
some
of
the
small
issues.
I
know
that
on
a
big
on
a
macro
level,
it's
working.
A
C
I
don't
didn't
hear
what
the
previous
feedback
was,
but
I
would
say,
generally
speaking,
if
we
tweet
for
it,
people
have
problems.
That's
a
good
way
to
find
out
about
problems.
C
Maybe
we
could
wait
until
we
tweet
until
after
the
release
is
out
so
that
we
aren't
trying
to
help
people
with
registration
problems
while
trying
to
get
the
release
out
so
maybe
like
later
tonight
or
tomorrow
morning
or
something
sure
I
think
that
might
be
good,
fair
enough.
Yep.
A
Okay,
then
we
can
maybe
leverage
those
a
little
bit
talk
a
bit.
You
know
it
will
do
a
tweet
just
about
the
release,
but
we
can
do
another
tweet.
That's
like
hey
come
to
talk
about
the
new
features
in
background
background
live
so
I
don't
know
if
there's
anything
more
to
talk
about
background
live
today.
Anybody
have
any
questions
or
anything
they
want
to.
C
I
wanted
to
just
bring
up
what
we've
talked
about
this
a
couple
of
times
since,
during
the
like
first
block,
setting
up
like
an
intro
track.
I
was
thinking
it
might
be
really
nice
to
have
like
a
session
on
content,
types
and
fields,
a
session
on
views
and
a
session
on
layouts
as
like.
C
This
is
what
a
cms
is
so
really
intro
high
level
for
beginners,
but
also
something
that
maybe
people
are
more
advanced,
might
still
be
able
to
learn
something
from
like
a
fun
example
with
I
don't
know,
contextual
filters
and
views
or
something
that
might
be
just
a
little
a
little
more
fun.
C
I
think
that
it
would
be
great
if
we
could
put
those
sessions
on
the
schedule,
even
if
we
don't
have
presenters
and
then
have
some
way
to
like
prompt
people
and
say
hey
we're
looking
for
facilitators
for
these
three
hours
and
see
if
that
might
encourage
some
people
who
maybe
wouldn't
have
otherwise
offered
a
session
to
fill
up
those.
I
don't
know
how
to
do
that.
C
Like
suggestion
piece
of
it,
but
I'd
be
willing
to
work
on
something
on
that
like
I
know
the
registration
form
we're
like
what
do
you
want
to
present,
but
it
doesn't
tie
into
the
like
node,
I
don't
know
so
yeah.
Maybe
we
can
talk
about
ideas
for
how
to
facilitate
that.
A
Well,
I
love
everything
about
it.
What
you
just
said-
and
I
think
that
you
know
I'd
like
love-
to
run-
to
the
site
right
now
and
put
those
on
the
schedule.
Okay,
I
don't
think
we
have
the
schedule
up
yet,
but
it
would
be
a
reason
to
get
the
schedule
up
right
and
actually
have
a
working
schedule.
I
was
gonna
say
well,
we
could
try
to
divvy
up
those
sessions
right
now,
but
I
actually
like
your
idea
about
putting
them
on
the
schedule
and
saying
hey.
A
We
need
people
to
do
these
as
an
opportunity
to
get
some
folks
who
would
be
good
presenters,
but
just
don't
know
what
to
present
down
and
this
you
know
I
I
I
would
say
as
a
goal
which
you
and
I
should
not
do-
one
of
these
because
we're
doing
we'll
be
probably
doing
enough
other
things,
and
we
should
try
to
find
three
new
people.
You
know
just
as
a
way
to
an
opportunity
to
get
them
involved
in
presenting
it,
give
them
a
kind
of
a
straightforward
topic.
A
So
do
we?
We
don't
have
any
like
a
curriculum
or
a
slide
deck
for
those
specific
topics.
C
No-
and
I
also
don't
know
like
if
so
I
have
like
training
materials
from
when
I
were
used
to
work
at
chapter
three
on
those
three
concepts,
but
they
are
like
intended
for
like
a
day
or
week,
long
training
classes
so
probably
not
suitable,
but
it
might
be
good
to
like
you
could
browse
them
and
be
like.
Oh,
this
is
a
good
example
and
pull
it
out.
C
So
if,
if
people
needed
example
material
for
that,
we
could
probably
come
up
with
something,
but
I
also
think,
if
we're
going
to
request
that
somebody
specifically
want
to
give
it,
we
should
give
them
the
flexibility
to
do
what
they
whatever
they
feel
like
is
comfortable
but
yeah.
I
think
all
the
help
we
can
offer.
We
should
but
no
restrictions.
A
C
A
A
And
we,
you
know
we
could
ask,
but
again
I
wouldn't
require
that
if
somebody
does
do
this
and
we
don't
have
a
slide
deck
that
they,
if
they
you
know
just
plant
in
a
seat
that
if
they
could,
if
they
created
something
reusable,
that
would
be
great,
but
they
shouldn't
feel
obligated,
because
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
we
could
do
at
every
backdrop
live
like.
So
if
we
did
do
something
reusable,
that
would
be
nice,
but
I
don't
want
it
to.
A
I
don't
want
to
make
this
harder
for
anybody
than
it
already
is
so,
okay,
I
think
we're
anybody
else,
have
any
thoughts
on
that,
and
I
love
your.
What
did
you
say?
Content
types
and
fields,
views
and
layouts,
I
think
that's
perfect-
is
anybody
else?
Is
that,
like
a
good
training
program
for
an
intro
to
backdrop,
I
think
you
know,
I
think
we'll
get
people
coming
just
for
those
three
sessions
yeah.
It.
B
Might
might
be
worth
under
under
each
of
those
just
the
just
giving
one
or
two
bullets
that
just
explain
what
you
think
this
scope
might
be,
so
it
might
be
for
f,
for
example,
fields.
You
might
want
to
say.
Well,
you
know
th.
These
are
all
the
different
types
of
fields
you
can
use
out
of
a
box,
but
don't
stop.
B
There
is
where
you
can
find
additional
fields
and
that
that
sort
of
thing-
and
this
is
how
you
th
this-
is-
and
I
guess,
a
bit
about
config
configuring,
the
fields
and
that
there
there's
an
element
of
reuse
between
content
types
and
that
sort
of
thing,
but
because
I
I
think
some,
if
you
just
put
out
there
the
headings
people
might
flounder
and
not
not
be
sure
what
what
to
do
it
on.
A
C
C
A
A
You
don't
like
the
word
plagiarize,
which
I
don't
think
that's
the
wrong
word
we
can
share.
We
can
share
content.
No,
I
shouldn't
be
sure
to
use
two
words
like
that.
Okay,
anything
else,
I
I
kind
of
wanted
to
talk
about
that
same
thing
too
jen,
but
I
just
didn't
feel
prepared.
So
I'm
glad
you
did
because,
let's
just
move,
that's
something
we
can
move
forward
right
away.
A
The
sooner
we
can
promote
that
better
and
especially
if
we
could
have
that
all
set
up
before
bad
camp
that'll
be
a
good
thing
to
promote
around
that
camp
time.
Anything
else
on
backdrop,
live
okay:
how
about
open
source
day
tomorrow?
John?
Do
you
want
to
give
an
update
on
where
we're
at.
C
Sure
you
think
we
need
to
so
tomorrow
morning.
It's
7
45
a.m,
just
really
early
for
me,
we're
gonna
start
off
the
day.
There's
gonna
be
a
little
intro
to
open
source
day
and
the
grace
hopper
celebration,
which
is
the
event
that
it's
part
of
and
then
we'll
have
maybe
a
half
an
hour
to
tell
everybody
what
backdrop
is
and
why
they
should
care.
C
So
what
we're
going
to
be
seeing
are
a
bunch
of
first-time
contributors,
trying
to
figure
out
github,
trying
to
figure
out
pull
requests,
trying
to
use
our
sandboxes
to
test
things
and
hopefully
they'll
be
able
to
actually
contribute
a
little
bit
through
that
process
and
him,
and
I
will
be
available
on
most
of
the
day
to
help
people
through
that
process
of
trying
to
get
things
working
trying
to
find
which
line
in
which
file
should
be
edited,
which
could
be
really
hard
for
new
people
and
then
nate
will
be
available
for
a
little
bit
of
the
time
to
merge.
C
Anything
that
we
feel
is
rtbc,
so
what
we're
going
to
need
help
with
is,
as
the
pull
requests
coming
in
making
sure
they're
getting
reviewed
and
marked
rtbc
if
they
are
in
fact
ready
to
be
committed-
and
this
doesn't
have
to
happen
tomorrow
too.
Sometimes
these
people
linger
for
a
couple
of
weeks.
They
usually
have
a
couple
of
weeks
to
get
credit
for
all
the
work
they're
doing
on
open
source
projects.
A
Sure
something
that
seems
to
be
have
worked
really
well
well,
especially
the
last
two
open
source
days
was
for
us
to
just
walk
through
it
as
a
group
and
do
a
pull
request,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
you
had.
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
we
had
one
or
two
of
those
identified
that
you
could.
You
know
set
aside
that
our
you
know
they
could.
D
A
I
mean
my
suggestion:
jen
from
previous
expectations
is
that
we,
our
events,
is
that
we
should
sort
of
plan
to
do.
We
could
do
it
in
the
sight
room.
I
think
we
have
that
ability.
I
think
we
used
it
last
time,
but
it
seemed
to
be
sort
of
really
effective
and
engaging,
and-
and
it
usually,
it
seems
like
we
do
one
in
the
morning
and
then
there's
more
people
in
the
afternoon.
We
need
to
do
it
again,
so
if
we're
just
prepared
for
that,
that
would
be
good.
A
C
I
just
wrote
on
my
to-do
list
for
today
one
release:
two
good
first
issues:
three
event
site
cleanup.
D
D
A
Can
work
on
the
blog
post
tonight
and
or
getting
a
few
identifying
at
least
three
or
four
good
first
issues
that
would
be
good.
It
sometimes
help
it's
helpful
as
a
mentor
to
have
some
issues
ready
that
you're
really
familiar
with
that.
You
don't
have
to
spend
10
minutes
reading
through
the
queue
you
know
you
can
just
start
talking
about
right
away
anything
else.
A
A
I
didn't
talk
enough
about
the
sprint,
because
irena
has
a
focus
on
that
and
her
idea
was
to
focus
at
bad
camp
on
the
upgrade
process,
and
I
think
what
she's
trying
to
do
is
leverage
this.
This
feeling
out
there
that
maybe
there's
some
room
for
us
to
cooperate
with
drupal
folks
who
want
to
get
people
off
of
drupal
7..
A
They
want
to
quit,
supporting
it
right
and
that
maybe
we
can
get
some
of
them
to
help
us
make
the
process
better
to
get
it
on
the
background
and
jen,
you
know
more
about
so
what
she'd?
Like
to
do
is
for
us
to
have
some
specific
issues
identified
around
that
topic
and
she
she's
already
got
a
google
doc
where
we
could
start
to
list
issues,
and
I
remind
me,
I
think,
which,
which
she's
looked
one
of
the
main
things
that
we
talked
about
in
our
meeting
with
her.
A
A
What
she
wants
and
do
we
have
good,
I
suspect
that
the
sprint
will
go
smoother.
You
know
we
might
potentially
get
some
people,
some
friends
of
ours
who
don't
normally
help
in
the
issue
too.
That
would
be
willing
to
help
for
a
day
that
are
skilled
right
and
they
could
jump
into
an
advanced
issue
if
we
have
real,
clear
path
like
I'm,
where
we
need
help-
and
I'm
wondering
do
we
have
that
now
or
do
we
need
to
get
ready?
I.
C
A
I
don't
remember,
but
yeah
you
came
back
from
that
san
francisco
global
there's,
a
group
meeting.
C
I
was
all
excited
look
at
this,
but
I
did
go
me.
Okay,
I'm
just
gonna
drop
a
link
in
here
and
I'll
put
it
in
zulu.
Okay.
I
love
it
when
I
do
that.
I
think
you
future
me
past
me.
A
C
Interesting
so
dr
wilmot
says:
there's
already
a
module
yeah.
I
think
what
we
should
do
is
test
the
module
the
doc
will
mention
because
it
might
already
do
most
of
what
we
want.
Compare
that
to
irena's
list
of
feature
requests
which
we
might
just
need
to
document
somewhere.
If
we
know
what
it
is
and
then
we
can
itemize
out
what
the
differences
are
like.
Oh
we're
missing
the
like
ability
to.
C
I
don't
know,
map
your
fields
or
I
don't
think
that's
one
of
the
things,
but
something
like
that
sure
and
I
think,
if
we
can
get
that
list
of
issues,
then
we'll
have
more
concrete
things
for
people
to
work
on.
A
Robert
this,
I
I
feel,
like
I'm
limited
in
my
ability
to
help
with
this
particular
thing.
If
this
is
something
that
interests
you,
it
seems
like,
you
might
actually
be
able
to
help,
if,
even
if
just
to
scope
out
like
what
it
should
do
and
what
the
stats
are.
Sorry
to
put
you
on
the
spot.
But
if
that,
if
that's.
A
A
Well,
the
I
think
that
the
idea
that
arena
is
really
pushing
is
that
they're
sort
of
that
you
spin
up
a
backdrop
site
and
then
right
now.
I
think
the
current
instructions
for
for
doing
an
upgrade,
if
I'm
correct,
call
for
you
to
create
a
backdrop
site
right
and
sort
of
prep
it
and
then
to
upload
the
database
directly
to
the
sql
sql
via
like
the
command
line
or
a
database
tool,
and
I
think
what
irena
is
saying.
Why
can't
we
build
a
ui
for
that,
so
that
we
can
just
push
a
button?
C
Right
yeah
and
I
just
looked
at
dr
wilmette's
module.
He
has
one
called
d
to
be
migrate,
which
looks
exactly
like
what
I
was
thinking.
It
leverages
back
up
and
migrate
to
handle
the
import
process,
which
is
what
I
was
gonna
do,
and
his
is
even
better
because,
on
your
initial
backdrop
site,
it
will
say:
hey
I've
connected
to
your
drupal
database
and
determined
that
these
are
the
modules
that
you
had
installed
in
drupal,
and
you
should
now
download
install
those
on
your
backdrop
site
first.
C
B
Okay,
I've
been,
I,
I
wouldn't
really
know
where
to
start
doing
this
through
the
ui.
It's
totally
I've.
I
have
been
looking
at
stuff
through
the
through
scripting,
with
the
command
line
and
stuff,
but
with
b,
but
the
uis
at
another
level.
Sure.
A
Well,
maybe
what
you
and
I
could
do,
martin
is
test
that
the
dot
dot
romance
module
to
see
if
we
can
get
it
to
work
and
give
feedback
is
that
it's
in
the
contrib
space.
C
Yep,
I
dropped
a
link
into
the
zoom
chat.
I
put
it
into
zooloop,
also.
C
A
Sprint
related
thing:
we're
not
going
to
get
done
early.
Are
we
the
finals?
For,
on
the
other
hand,
I
think
we've
been
talking
about
important
stuff,
so
the
other
sprint
related
thing
is
for
the
last
couple
of
years.
I've
been
watching
this
october
event
the
fest
event,
and
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
have
ever
heard
of
it,
but
I
hear
about
it
just
because
I
happen
to
be
in
the
right,
twitter
stream.
So
every
year
I
can
see
all
these
tweets
about
hacktoberfest
and
basically
it's
I
think.
A
Digitalocean
is
the
company
that
sponsors
it
and
they,
basically
it's
just
encouraging
people
to
get
involved
in
open
source
and
they
give
out
a
massive
amount
of
t-shirts
to
people
who
make
a
contribution
during
the
month
of
october,
and
they
they
also
have
a
web.
A
So
they
they
encourage
sort
of
tags
on
github
that
you
know
spread
the
word
about
oktoberfest,
we'll
have
to
see
how
we
handle
that,
but
I
think
you
can
also
they
have
sort
of
a
calendar
of
scheduled
sprints
on
their
hacktoberfest
website,
so
that
people
who
want
to
contribute
can
find
spreads
to
join,
and
I
think
that
we
could
get
on
that
schedule
and
since
the
bad
cram
sprint
is
going
to
be
happening
during
oktoberfest,
I
think
we
should
at
very
minimum
get
that
sprint
on
the
oktoberfest,
because
in
also
irena's
plan
is
to
make
this
a
in-person
and
virtual
sprint
day,
and
so
anybody
you
know
you
won't
have
to
be
at
a
bad
camp
to
participate
and
we
could
make
it
also
an
oktoberfest
event
and
we
might
want
to
schedule
another
october
fest
sprint
as
well.
A
I
don't
know,
but
if
anybody
has
any
ideas
or
wants
to
help.
Certainly
martin
will
count
on
you
to
help
promote
these
things
on
linkedin
once
we
once
they're
firmed
up,
but
if
anybody
else
has
any
thoughts,
I
don't
know
if
this
is
the
so
on
a
related
topic.
A
Angie,
byron
posted
a
nice
twitter
thread
last
night
jen,
I
reposted
it.
I
don't
know
if
you
saw
it
talking
about
first
time
contributions
and
she
was
talking
about
sort
of
metrics
to
depend
to
determine
how
successful
a
project
is
for
or
a
company.
A
Things
like
documentation,
updates
right
to
other
open
source
projects
and
within
24
hours
they
had
been
approved
and
merged,
and
one
how
good
that
made
her
feel
and
two
how
you
know
if
a
project
focuses
on
that
like
how
do
we
respond
quickly
to
things
that
that's
just
going
to
be
overall
good
for
the
project?
A
And
I
guess
I'm
just
bringing
this
all
up,
because
if
we're
doing
a
number
of
sprints,
what
what
is
it
that
we
could
be
doing
to
better
support?
And
I
guess
I'm
also
thinking
about,
and
this
might
be
a
pmc
issue.
Jen
is
whether
or
not
we
would
we
would
wanna
in
one
of
the
gentlemen,
angie
mentioned
getting
a
monk
for
her
first,
her
first
contribution
to
one
of
the
projects,
and
I'm
wondering
you
know
I've
been
thinking
about
something
like
that
for
a
while.
A
This
is
you
know,
using
either
t-shirts
or
something
else,
or
maybe
a
mug
or
something
you
know,
maybe
fingers
at
least
at
least
a
sticker
right.
Send
somebody
something
I
mean
I
think
just
a
sticker
would
be
a
nice
touch.
You
know,
and
just
sort
of
make
that
like
because,
certainly
for
we
could
do
it
during
the
month
of
like
oktoberfest.
It
could
be
part
of
our
oktoberfest
program,
but
we
might
even
just
do
it
indefinitely
right,
anytime.
Somebody.
A
You
know
he
submits
their
first,
at
least
their
first,
and
we
could.
You
know,
talk
more
about
that.
So
any
quick
thoughts
on
that
or
if
the
problem
is
I
mean
the
biggest
thing,
is
the
logistics
of
managing.
That
means
getting
addresses
and
actually
physically
sending
something
out,
and
I
don't
like
to
put
that
work
on
us
when
we're
already
overburdened,
but
it
could
be.
I
mean
if
us
putting
a
little
time
into
that
meant
more
contributors.
B
Do
you
think
yeah?
Are
you
expecting
me
in
the
u.s
space
for
these
or
could
they
be
anywhere.
A
Well,
we,
our
virtual
spreads,
are
usually
could
be
anywhere
and
we
try
to
keep
that
flexibility
sometimes
so
that
the
okay,
the
bad
camp,
one
is
going
to
be
the
the
physical
part
of
it
right
is
going
to
happen
at
a
time.
That's
probably
best
for
people
in
the
us.
A
However,
there's
no
reason
it
couldn't
be
a
24-hour
sprint
if
we
have
coverage
as
long
as
we
have
someone
available
at
other
time
zones,
but
I
don't
like
to
say
we're
sprinting
24
hours
and
then,
if
somebody
doesn't
make
any
sense,
if
there's
nobody
available
to
sort
of
help,
people
so
martin,
if,
if
you
were
in
a
position
to
help
like
and
we
don't
have
to
say
24
hours,
but
we
could
designate
a
time
frame
that
included
a
european
time
slot.
A
A
That's
not
the
kind
of
thing
that
I
think
is
most
needed
in
the
sprint
which
most
needed
is
somebody
that
can
help
them
understand.
The
issue
to
you
know
like
know
what
what
to
do
first
think
or
help
them
find
an
issue
yeah
that
really
those.
D
A
The
skills
for
sort
of
mentoring
and
helping
somebody
just
help
them
find
an
issue
and
help
them.
You
know
you
know
I
I
frequently
direct
people
to
intentionally
to
first-time
contributors,
to
very
easy
issues
that
I
can
help
them
with
right.
If,
if
they
say
to
me,
oh
I'm,
you
know,
I
have
the
skills
to
do
a
complicated
issue.
I
say
great
there.
It
is
good
luck,
post
questions
in
the
issue
queue
because
I
can't
help
you
and
that's
fine
yeah.
B
Yeah,
if
I
can,
depending
on
when
it
when
it
is
and
how
it
fits
around
I'd,
be
happy,
possibly
happy
to
do
that.
I
was
also
thinking
in
terms
of
logistics
that,
if
there
was,
if
you
did
have
people
in
kind
of
uk
and
ireland,
it
would
make
sense
to
be
having
things
printed
and
sent
from
here.
Oh
rather
rather
than
kind
of
shipping
everything
from
the
us
and
there
might
be
other
other
people
in
other
parts
of
the
world.
B
Who
would
be,
if
we
have
a
say,
a
design
file
that
and
general
principles
if
we
can
find
people
who
are
willing
to
act
as
a
local
contact
and
with
a
get
a
local
supplier
and
there's
a
there's,
some
a
company,
I've
used
who
who
will
do
drop
shipping.
So
you
you
can
basically
say
this
is
a
this.
Is
a
design
send
it
to
the
send
it
you
send
it
direct
to
this
person,
so.
A
Actually,
when
I
thought
about
mugs,
I
was
thinking
about
exactly
that.
It's
just
finding
a
company
that
cannot
think
you
know
we're
not
selling
these
to
make
money
right.
It
would
be
purely
a
a
gift
thing
and
if
we
just
found
a
a
company
that
would
cr,
you
know,
make
them
on
demand
and
drop
ship
them,
then
we're
really
just
paying
them
as
a
premium,
for
you
know
to
encourage
contribution
and
then
and
take
as
much
of
the
work
off
of
us
as
possible.
A
A
Have
greg
in
australia
and
you
and
europe.
B
Yeah,
well,
it
might
might
be
better
to
get,
and
I
can
do
uk
uk
islands
sort
of
relatively
straightforward
and
europe
might
be
better
to
have.
I
owe
a
lot
for
olaf.
Ozil.
B
A
Yeah,
I
don't
know,
but
we're
running
out
of
time
in
this
meeting,
all
right,
let's
plan
to
revisit
this
topic
in
two
weeks,
and
maybe
if
anybody
has
any
time
to
research
some
options
and
we
can
chat
more
about
it
and
decide
if
we
want
to
do
something.
If
it's
going
to
involve
money,
I
think
that
pmc
will
have
to
get
involved,
but
I
don't
think
the
pmc
should
get
involved
until
there's
a
more
concrete
proposal.
What
do
you
think
that
sound
right?
A
D
Yeah,
basically,
I
think
we've
sort
of
worked
out
all
the
steps
we
need
to
to
move
city
crm
onto
backup.org
and
what
fields
move
over
and
how
to
convert
accounts
to
contacts
and
all
that
stuff.
D
Last
thing
we
wanted
to
do
was
related
to
the
sort
of
the
first
real
thing
we
do
once
we've
moved
over,
which
is
to
send
out
the
newsletter
starting
to
send
out
the
newsletter
using
civi
mail
and
to
accomplish
that
we'll
need
to
import
the
mailing
list
of
newsletter
recipients,
and
that
means
pulling
it
out
of
our
existing
email
service.
A
So
the
next
step
is
jen
can
doing
a
final
import
in
descending
blue
of
of
our
email
addresses
consolidating
that
giving
that
to
robert
so
that
he
can
start
the
process.
Do
we
want
to
well?
So
what,
in
the
in
the
interim,
do
we
continue
to
accept
email
addresses
in
the
current
process?
Will
we
be
able
to
to
move
those
into
the
directly
in
the
city
crm
assume
this
is.
D
I
think
if,
if
we
get
a
new
updated
list
and
what
we
can
do
is
to
install
all
the
city
stuff
and
then
you
know
when
we're
ready
to
say
switch
over,
do
a
fresh
export
of
the
newsletter
list
immediately
import
it,
and
you
know,
make
that
interval
that
you're
talking
about
no
more
than
an
hour.
D
D
A
Well,
the
other
thing
is
that
we
need
to
to.
We
need
to
be.
I
think
that,
what's
going
to
happen
right
is
we're
going
to
switch
over
our
our
newsletter
sign
up
from
whatever
it
is
now
to
directly
to
city
right,
so
that
in
the
future,
people
will
be
when
they
sign
up
for
newsletter.
They'll
be
added
directly
to
safety,
and
we
won't
have
any
process.
A
So
we
should
also
be
prepared
for
that
like
what,
where,
where
are
our
newsletter
sign
up
blocks
and
and
maybe
get
them
ready
to
switch
over,
you
know,
have
the
civi
version
ready,
so
we
just
have
to
replace
it.
D
Yeah,
so
you
know
on
the
on
the
beta
side,
now
there's
a
there's,
a
sub
tab
of
the
user,
edit
page,
which
is
all
the
mail
all
the
emails
that
you
can
sign
up
for
and
that
that
profile
also
shows
up
on
the
new
user
registration
page
and
those
are
the
things
that
we
would
install
on
the
v.org
as
part
of
the
real
transition,
basically
reproducing
everything.
We've
got
on
the
beta
site
on
v.org
and
so.
C
Also,
we
do
also
have
a
mailing
list
sign
up
form
on
the
footer
of
every
one
of
our
websites,
that
for
people
who
aren't
logged
in
who
don't
have
accounts
and
that's
what
we
would
need
to
recreate.
But
I
think
it's
fine.
I
think
we
just
set
up
a
web
form
and
have
it
add
the
contact
to
civi
without
the
user
account,
and
that
should
be
okay,
but.
C
I
think
we
could
we
could
even
we've
got
a
couple
options.
We
could
set
up
an
individual
web
form
on
each
site
or
we
could
set
up
one
web
form
and
get
its
like
exportable,
like
iframe
tag
and
drop
that
in
on
the
other
ones.
I
don't
know
exactly
how
that
works,
but
I
know
that
nate's
done
that
before
he
did
that
for
webform.com.
C
A
Okay,
we
should
probably
wrap
up
this
meeting
the
next
meeting's
supposed
to
start
already.
Jen
you
have
the
button
hi
everybody.