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D
Raw
very
brief:
today
I
am
tim,
st
paul
tim,
I'm
in
deerwood,
minnesota
and
yeah.
D
There
have
been
a
couple
of
things
going
on
outreach-wise.
We
have
some
gogo
if
I'm
saying
his
name
right
is
been
working
on
some
graphics
for
backdrop,
live
that
we've
been
chatting
about
in
zulu.
If
anybody
is
following
that
or
interested
in
taking
a
look
at
those
go
ahead
and
look
for
them
in
zula,
we,
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
talk.
D
If,
if
you
were
here
today,
we
could
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
feedback,
but
I
think
that
there
is
plenty
of
feedback
already
in
zula,
so
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
talk
about
them
anymore,
unless
anybody
here
has
anything
that
they
wanted
to
add.
I
know
you
were
you
were
saying
before
martin
that
you've
done
a
little
bit
of
promoting
in
linkedin
and
haven't
used
the
graphics
yet
so
we
need
to
get
them
cleaned
up.
We
need
a
higher
resolution
version.
Is
that
your
point.
C
Well,
we
need
the
feedback
acting
on.
I
know
sort
of
gen.
C
A
message
on
it
would
have
been
yesterday,
for
you
just
saying:
yeah
yeah:
we
need
the
logo
bigger
and
we
need
it
aligned
with
the
others
but
yeah.
I
think
we
I
know
it's.
The
the
one
on
facebook
is
a
little
bit
blurry.
We
do.
We
do
need
like
proper,
full
resolution
so
so
that
they
they
look
good
on
social
media.
D
I
had
used
the
first
one
on
twitter
a
couple
of
times,
and
I
think
it
looks
fine
on
twitter,
but
I
didn't
so.
I
might
have
put
it
into
facebook
without
looking
close
enough.
I
think
facebook
might
use
it
a
little
larger
than
twitter
does
so
anyways.
I
I
mean
I
I
I
certainly
felt
comfortable
using.
I
think
they
look
pretty
good
in
a
lot
of
ways
and
even
if
we're
still
refining
them
using
a
draft
for
me,
is
better
than
nothing
at
all
on
twitter,
especially
because
yeah.
D
D
Anyway,
so
I
think
that's
enough
on
the
the
logos
we
could
merge
right
into
social
media
and
see
if
there's
anything
more,
I
would
say
our
social
before
the
meeting
I
mentioned
we're
at
about
23.
I
think
registrations
for
backdrop
live,
which
is,
I
don't
think
dramatically
out
of
line
with
what
we've
had
in
some
recent
events
at
this
stage,
although
it's
definitely
well,
it's
I
think
it's
behind
where
we
were
for
our
last
one.
D
We
had
a
total
of
about
70
people
that
registered
for
the
last
backdrop,
live
so
we're
only
a
third
of
that
right
now
now
we
get
quite
a
few
people
in
the
final
week.
That's
when
a
lot
of
people
register,
so
I'd
like
to
see
a
real
boost
of
activity
getting
the
word
out,
although
we've
also
talked
about
the
fact
we
know
a
lot
of
our
regular
users
are
not
available
at
this
time
of
the
summer
and
it's
so
our
expectations
have
to
keep
that
in
mind.
D
But,
as
I
skim
through
the
list
of
people,
I
I'm
seeing
a
nice
mix
as
usual
of
names.
I
recognize
as
well
as
some
names.
I
don't
recognize.
So
that's
always
a
good
thing
to
see
some
new
people
registering.
C
Yeah,
I
think
I
try
and
do
sort
of
any
subsequent
ones,
sort
of
hook
it
around
one
or
two
items
in
the
schedule.
C
So
I'm
thinking
of
doing
like
a
little
thing,
just
saying
about
the
benefits
of
paragraphs
and
then
pointing
them
towards
your
case
study
as
because
I
think
I
think,
for
linkedin.
I
think
it's
important
to
to
sort
of
hook
into
the
the
benefits
that
people
can
can
get
and
then
use
that
to
use
that
as
the
message
and
then
say.
C
Well,
here's
where
you
can
find
out
more
so
that
that's
something
which
I'll
probably
do
either
tomorrow
or
saturday
and
just
so
space
now
and
as
the
schedule
develops
I'll,
try
and
pick
a
couple
of
others
to
to
to
do
a
similar
kind
of
treatment
to
just
try
and
find
an
angle
and
then
point
them
towards
that.
D
I
I
agree
that
I
think
highlighting
on
particular
topics
is
helpful.
I'm
trying
something
on
twitter
that
I
haven't
done
before,
which
is
I've,
got
a
an
ongoing
twitter
thread
where
I
just
I
try
once
a
day
to
add
a
new
topic
to
one
twitter
thread
so
that
if
anybody
clicks
on
any
one
topic,
they
can
quickly
see
the
previous
topics
that
I
posted
about,
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
an
effective
strategy
on
twitter.
I
think,
but
I
thought
it
was
something
worth
trying
so.
C
D
Well,
it
was,
I
just
posted
one
tweet
about
an
event
like
a
week
ago
or
one
particular
topic,
and
then
I've
just
been
replying
to
to
that
tweet
right.
So
nobody
else
has
commented
on
any
of
these,
so
I'm
not
adding
to
a
multi
a
conversation
in
that
way,
but
it
you
know
in
twitter
speak.
It
would
be
like
a
one.
A
one
person
conversation
where
I
just
keep
replying
to
my
to
the
to
the
backdrop,
dot
org
account
the
big
advantage
of
it.
D
So
it
looks
like
a
long
list
of
topics
and
we'll
see
if
that,
if
that
helps,
I
I
would
say
I've
been
doing
less
twitter
than
I
did
last
time,
just
because
my
schedule's
been
too
busy.
I
haven't
had
time
to
be
on
twitter
as
much.
I
think
twitter
is
still
one
of
our
one
of
our
big
outreach
tools
that,
along
with
our
email
list,
we
have
hit
our
email
list
a
couple
of
times
and
jen,
and
I
talked
about
probably
we'll
hit
the
email
list
again
tomorrow.
D
The
email
goes
out
to
about
2.
000
experience
tells
me
we'll
get
a
you
know.
We
might
get
a
handful
after
any
email
blast,
but
you
know
not
a
huge
amount.
I
mean
we
do
get.
We
get
like
a
15
or
20
open
rate,
which
I
think
is
pretty
decent,
but
but
in
terms
of
registrations
it's
usually
a
handful.
D
If
the
the
only
other
area
is
facebook-
and
I
went
ahead
and
got
some
stuff
up
on
facebook,
if
we
have
anybody,
that's
watching
this-
the
live
stream
and
is
active
on
facebook.
Please
help
us
out
there
in
any
of
these
social
medias.
We
need
right
now,
people
to
to
retweet
or
read
or
share
our
content,
but
I
think
more
importantly,
we
need
people
to
actually
comment
on
it.
That
that's
that's.
What's
really
helpful
is
if
you
just
retweet
or
share
that's
one
thing,
but
it's
even
better.
D
D
And
obviously
you
know,
one
of
our
big
goals
is
to
reach
new
people
and
we
don't
reach
new
people
through
our
existing
social
media
channels.
We
we
reach
new
people
when
the
people
we
follow,
share
and
spread
our
content
further,
so
that
we
really
really
need
that.
D
Okay,
so
I
think
that's
sort
of
our
social
media,
update
and
and
in
terms
of
the
newsletter,
if
anybody
has
any
additional
thoughts
or
feedback
on
social
things
that
we
could
be
doing.
Let
us
know.
D
I
would
say
I
feel,
like
our
schedule's
a
little
bit
thinner
than
it
was
at
this
time.
At
the
last
backdrop,
live-
and
I
also
think
the
schedule
is
a
big
thing
that
helps
get
people
to
register
right.
We
need
to
drive
them
to
the
website
to
the
schedule
with
our
social
media,
but
when
people
look
at
the
schedule,
if
they
see
things
that
topics
on
there,
that
interest
them
they're
more
likely
to
participate-
and
we
have
this
dilemma-
which
is
we
do?
D
D
D
I
I
would
rather
that
people
get
something
on
the
schedule
and
then
change
it
later
than
just
wait
till
the
last
minute,
because
well
I
for
obvious
reasons
that
just
the
sooner
we
get
things
up
there
and
people
are
able
to
see
interesting
topics,
the
more
likely
they
are
to
register.
So
I
will
also
just
add
that
we
added
one
of
the
things
we
keep
getting
requests
for
is
more
structured
presentations
that
are
recorded
and
we've
added
that
a
block
to
the
schedule.
D
For
that
I
don't
know
that
we've
gotten
anybody
other
than
myself
that
has
offered
to
do
one
of
those
sessions.
There's
there's
one
session
in
that
block,
but
I'm
not
sure
nope.
We
do
have
there's
three
sessions
in
that
block
right
now
and
two
of
them
one
of
myself
and
one
that
justin
did
on
solar
lando
and
backdrop.
D
I
know
that
he's
aware
of
that.
The
other
one
is
marketing
backdrop
cms
for
large-scale
complex
projects
and
I'm
not
sure
if
the
folks
who
scheduled
that
were
aware,
they've
described
it
more
like
a
regular
discussion.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
they're
planning
to
do
a
presentation
or
not,
I
need
to
check
in
with
them.
D
But
my
point
is:
is
that
while
people
keep
asking
for
these
more
structured
presentations,
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
didn't
go
that
route
early
on
is
because
it's
harder,
you
know
it's
the
overhead
of
creating
a
a
presentation
that
is
going
to
be
recorded
as
greater
and
we
haven't
been
confident
in
our
ability
to
flush
out
an
entire
schedule
with
those
kinds
of
presentations.
D
Also,
I
just
like
the
I,
like
the
discussion
format
better
personally,
I
would
rather
do
that.
But
these
are
both
reasons
and
if
we're
going
to
do
structured
presentations,
we
need
people
to
volunteer
to
do
them,
and
you
know
that
means
a
little
bit
more
advanced.
It
could
mean
a
little
more
advanced
work,
although
a
structured
presentation
could
also
be
a
live
demo
of
something
that
gets
recorded.
D
C
D
D
I
think
I'm
sorry,
I'm
talking
a
lot,
but
I'm
just
updating
everybody.
We
we
also,
we
had
discussed
just
canceling
the
block
d,
which
is
the
4
5
and
6
a.m.
Central
time
block.
That
is
it's
like
early
afternoon
on
saturday
or
yeah
in
europe.
D
Just
because
we've
had
no
participation
in
the
past
or
very,
very
little
participation.
I
went
ahead
and
left
it
on
the
schedule.
D
So
if
anybody
feels
strongly
about
trying
to
build
content
in
that
block,
please
let
me
know
quickly.
Otherwise,
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
close
that
block
off.
D
Joseph
I'm
going
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
like
I
always
do
you.
I
think
you
you're
available
right
to
be
at
backdrop
live.
Is
there
a
topic
that
you're
thinking
about.
D
And
robert,
it
sounds
to
me,
like
you,
said,
you're
still
unsure
of
your
schedules
right
right,
okay!
Well,
let
us
know
if
you
can
do
something
that
can
I
understand
I.
I
have
no
doubt
that
we
will
get
more
topics
as
we
get
closer,
I'm
just
really
hoping
at
least
a
few
people
get
them
on
the
schedule
sooner
rather
than
later,.
D
Admittedly,
our
website
is
not,
as
polished
for
backdrop
live
as
I
would
like
it
to
be,
but
I
do
feel
like
certainly
behind
the
scenes
where
we've
made
improvements
each
time
we
do
it,
the
the
behind
the
scenes
work
is
going
down
because
we
have
more
of
a
system
in
place,
but
there
is
still
some
awkwardness
about
some
things.
So
if
you,
but
but
please
give
us
feedback
if
there
are
things
that
are
obviously
strange
about
the
website,
I
got
some
feedback.
We
had.
We
had
an
faq.
D
That
said
no
sessions
were
going
to
be
recorded
and
that's
not
true.
We
so
thanks
to
some
feedback
from
one
of
our
community
members,
we
updated
that
faq.
D
D
So
the
way,
if,
if
anybody's
watching
this
on
youtube,
I
think
everybody
here
knows
how
this
works,
but
the
way
backdrop
live
works
is
we
do
use
zoom.
We
create
a
single
zoom
room
with
breakout
rooms
for
the
individual
discussions,
so
the
the
main
zoom
room
serves
as
kind
of
the
plenary
hall
and
the
the
hallway
people
can
when
they
enter
the
zoom
room
they're,
not
in
it
directly
in
an
individual
topic,
they're
just
in
the
main
room.
D
And
they
can
sort
of
chat
and
then
find
their
way
into
their
topic
room,
and
this
has
worked
pretty
good
in
the
past,
but
it
works
best.
If
there's
always
somebody
in
that
hallway
paying
attention-
and
sometimes
I
set
up
two
computers,
so
I
could
be
in
the
hallway
in
one
computer
and
in
a
session
in
another,
but
it's
best
if
we
have
somebody
that's
sort
of
dedicated
and
focused
on
being
in
that
hallway,
and
it
would
be
great
to
have
a
schedule
for
the
whole
backdrop
live
with
volunteers.
D
But
we've
had
trouble
getting
people
to
commit
to
that
in
the
past
and,
to
be
honest,
I'm
not
sure
it's
practical
right
now,
but
if
you
are
able
to
commit
to
helping
out
in
the
hallway
or
just
to
think
about
it,
that
that's
a
great
way
to
help
out
on
the
day
of
the
event
is
just
to
if
there's
particular
blocks,
where
you're
not
feeling
strongly
about
participating
in
the
topics.
D
I
know
that
when
I
do
that,
I
sometimes
have
really
good
conversations
and
learn
things
from
people
just
hanging
out
in
the
hallway
much
the
way
I
do
at
conferences,
so
one
way
to
participate
in
backdrop
live
is
to
hang
out
in
the
hallway
there
and
chat
with
people
and
answer
questions
as
they're
entering.
D
D
D
D
Let's
just
so,
I
don't
know,
there's
other
tasks
like
that
need
to
be
done
in
terms
of
backdrop
live,
but
in
terms
of
talking
during
this
meeting,
I
can't
think
of
anything
else.
D
I'd
like
for
us
to
pay.
D
To
have
some
metrics
that
we
could
use
to
measure
our
success
in
terms
of
outreach,
and
I
don't
know
that
we
we
spend
much
time
on
that.
One
of
them
that
I
look
at
frequently
is
the
overall
project
usage
and
I
sometimes
tweet
about.
I
don't
tweet
about
this
a
lot,
but
we
talked
about
post
updates
in
in
zula,
but
I
try
to
look
every
week
and
see
how
these
numbers
are
doing
and
they
they
kind
of
fluctuate.
D
We've
been
at
around
2100
sites
for
a
while
and
again
it
kind
of
goes
up
and
down.
But
there's
definitely,
I
think,
continues
to
be
a
trend
upward
if
we
did,
if
we
average
this
out,
I'm
pretty
sure
that
we're
still
considering
upward,
but
it's
it's
not
going
real
fast,
but.
D
If
we
think
about
backdrop
usage
as
a
primary
stat,
which
I
think
we
should
give
folks.
D
Have
ideas
about
this
feel
free
to
let
them
know
or
other
metrics
we
should
be
looking
at.
I
do
try
to
track
like
how
we're
doing
in
our
twitter.
You
know
what
kind
of
engagement
we're
getting
with
our
twitter
feed.
I
think
martin
you're,
probably
looking
at
that,
a
little
bit
on
linkedin
and
yeah.
D
I'm
not
gonna,
try
to
look
at
that
right
now
live.
Although
here's
what
I
would
like
to
do,
it's
a
combination
of
social
media
and
outreach
is
talk
briefly
about
specific
social
media
remains
our
number
one.
I
think
way
of
of
getting
the
word
out
about
backdrop
live
in
the
content.
The
manner
in
which
we
do
that
social
media
has
an
impact
the
right.
D
You
know
I,
if,
if
I
a
provocatively
phrased
a
tweet,
we'll
get
three
two
or
three
times
the
the
outreach
and
we'll
get
a
lot
of
retweets
that
we
don't
otherwise
get
and
just
posting
such
topics
session
topics
doesn't
get
them.
Frankly,
to
be
honest,
it
doesn't
give
us
a
lot
of
retweets,
so
we
don't
get
it
and
it's
the
primary
thing
I've
been
doing.
D
D
C
D
Where
we
don't.
D
But
so
the
the
the
tweeting
something
that
is
going
to
you,
know
appeal
or
get
the
attention
of
our
audience
and
get
retweets.
It
could
be
really
helpful
in
terms
of
getting
attention
on
background
five.
Does
anybody
you
know
getting?
D
Is
it
premature
to
tweet
from
the
end,
from
the
backdrop
account
something
about
entity
reference?
I
don't
that
might
actually
get
a
lot
of
our
drupal
friends
might
latch
on
to
that
like?
Oh,
this
is
cool
that
they
that
they're
doing
this
and
share
that
news,
and
if
we
could
tie
that
to
backdrop
live
a
little
bit,
it
could
be
something
that
gets
some
I'm
slightly
nervous
about
it
being
premature
because
we
haven't
even
merged
it.
On
the
other
hand,
I
think
that
we're
moving
in
that
direction.
C
C
D
Actually
he
said
that
in
a
a
leadership,
but
it's
also
been
discussed
pretty
clearly
in
in
the
public
developer
meetings,
but
within
the
last
couple
of
days
I
heard
the
words
come
out
of
nate's
mouth,
which
is
the
basically
merging
of
this
pr
is
imminent,
joseph
or
robert
either
of
you
I
mean
we
wouldn't
say
like
it's
merged
right.
If
I
tweeted
about
it,
I
would
say
you
know
we're
we're
very
close
to
merging
the
the
entity.
A
A
It's
reasonable
to
tell
people
to
encourage
people
to
start
getting
used
to
it
or
look
into
it
and
yeah.
Just
following
the
zulu
and
the
github
conversations,
it
looks
like
it's
going
to
happen
and
your
comment
about
nate
definitely
makes
it
seem
much
more
like
it's
going
to
happen
so
yeah.
I
think
that's
that's
good!
Since
backdrop
live
is
the
next
one
is
going
to
happen.
Quite
you
know,
after
the
well
after
the
release,
this
is
good,
advanced
notice.
So
I'm
in
favor.
D
D
It
might
be
a
good
time.
Well,
I
think
I'll
wait
and
do
that
after
we
now
have
the
ability
to
spin
up
the
dev
branch
on
tugboats.
I
don't
know,
if
is
everybody
aware
of
that?
I'd
just
be
curious.
C
I
remember
it
being
mentioned,
I
have
to
say
I've,
never
I've
never
used
it.
D
Well,
let's
do
a
really
quick
demo,
because
this
is
this
is
particularly
useful
in
cases
like
this,
where
we've
merged
a
major
feature
into
the
dev
branch,
and
we
need
help
testing
it,
and
it's
gotten
a
lot
easier
to
do
that.
Because
of
this
new
thing,
which
is,
if
you
click
on
demo
backdrop
you're
going
to
create
a
this-
will
create
a
sandbox
with
the
latest
a
stable
release.
D
D
Click
on
this
link,
which
is
warning
you
that
you're
about
to
test
a
dev
branch,
but
look
at
here
we've
even
got
a
password.
This
is
a
dev
site,
but
it
allows
you
to
just
quickly
spin
up
get
in
and
play
with
a
dev
version
of
of
the
backdrop
that
includes
the
that
will
include
the
entity
reference,
and
I
don't
know
if
everybody
knows
this.
I
didn't
know
this.
D
For
a
long
time,
but
you
can
add
contrib
themes
and
modules
to
these
dev
sandboxes
using
the
ui,
so
it
is
possible
to
do
some
sophisticated
testing
with
other
modules
of
of
entity
reference
on
one
of
these
tugboat
branches.
D
Although
you
know
I,
I
use
the
dev
site
all
the
time
in
experimental
projects,
and
I
you
know
it's.
I
almost
never
run
into
any
problems.
So
it's
not
see.
I
don't
think
it's
a
big
risk,
but
still
we
prefer
to
be
serving
up.
You
know
a
stable
version
for
somebody
who's
just
evaluating
backdrop,
and
that's
still
what
this
button
does.
D
D
So
can
I
get
any
other
help
on
I'd
like
to
get
something?
So
if
we
get
something
slightly
provocative
about
drupal
and
drupal
7.,
that's
always
it
gets
us
some
attention
and-
and
I
I'm
not
saying
anything
mean
or
anything,
but
you
know
we
we
sometimes
try
to
walk
a
line
between.
You
know.
D
Saying
anything:
that's
that's
too
aggressive
in
terms
of
like
drupal
socks
move
to
backdrop
right
we're
not
we're
not
into
that
kind
of
messaging,
and
a
lot
of
us
don't
believe
that.
But
you
know
there's
something
short
of
that
which
is
you
know
this.
D
This
would
be
a
good
time
for
us
to
be
tweeting
out
messages
about
checking
out
backdrop
as
a
an
a
a
a
good
upgrade
option
for
drupal
7
sites,
and
is
there
a
fresh
way
we
can
say
that
or
tweet
about
it
that
we
haven't
done
before
that
would
get
attention.
D
A
Have
no
idea
yeah,
I
don't
know,
but
I
mean
I
think
the
the
selling
point
is
whether
or
not
it's
in
drupal,
9
or
10..
It's
the
upgrade
barrier
is,
is
the
big
biggest
discriminator
and
we've
lowered
that
barrier
further
for
upgrading
the
backdrop,
it's
still
there,
upgrading
from
drupal
7
to
9.
D
Yeah,
I
thought
so
so
I
mean
that
doesn't
mean
we
don't
tweet
about
it,
but
I
can't
I
just
can't
promote
it
as
a
as
like
an
advantage
over
drupal
right,
but
it
is
you
know
we
do.
We
want
to
get
the
attention
of
drupal
7
users
so
something
that
getting
some
tweet
ideas.
That
sort
of
that
certainly
reference
or
compare
us
to
drupal
7
is
good
and
and
again
it's
you
know,
I've
done
it
before
I
just
I'm
looking
for
fresh
angles.
D
Is
there
anything
that
we
have
done
recently?
You
too
well.
C
I
mean-
maybe
maybe
there
is
maybe
there's
one
thing
you
mentioned
with
with
the
end
of
life
and
that
we
we
just
don't
know
when
it's
going
to
be,
but
maybe
the
there
is.
There
is
an
angle
that
there
is
this
kind
of
nerve.
There's,
there's
a
nervousness,
there's,
there's
also
gradually
modules
are
becoming
unsupported,
so
functionality
is
going
down
right.
So
I
don't
know
if,
if
there's
an
angle
of
well,
if
it
might
be
extended,
it
might
not.
C
D
There
is
that
discussion
going
on
in
background
or
on
the
drupal
forum
about
drupal
classic,
and
I
mean
I
I
I
to
be
honest.
I
think
a
great
pr
move
would
be
for
us
to
do.
Sort
of
a
session
on
you
know
is,
is
backdrop
drupal
classic
or
not
right,
not
to
say
that
we
are
there's.
Definitely
people
in
that
thread.
Who
are
you
know
their
complaint?
D
Is
that
backdrop
isn't
enough,
like
drupal
7,
that
it's
too
different
and
that
the
upgrade
process
is
too
hard
and
they
want
they're
advocating
that
that
drupal
7
just
stay
available
as
a
drupal
as
as
background
or
drupal
classic,
and
I
think
if
we
were
to
like
facilitate
a
discussion
on
that
and
tweet
about
it,
that
would
that
would
get
some
attention,
but
I
I
don't
know
how
to
tweet
about
it
unless
it's
on
the
schedule-
and
I'm
not
sure
if
I
should
add
it
to
the
schedule,
because
I'm
already
facilitating
like
six
topics.
C
D
I
can
now
find
the
chat.
What
am
I.
A
C
I
don't,
I
know,
I
think
who
whoever
does
it
probably
needs
to
have
a
a
certain
amount
of
experience
of
doing
drupal
7's
backdrop
upgrades
and
I
I
can't
say
that
I
have.
D
C
D
What
we
could
try
to
do
is
talk
quick
mate
into
leading
a
discussion
on
this.
I
want
to
go,
read
back
and
look
at
what
he
posted
here.
D
But
actually,
if
nate
were
to
leave
this
discussion,
that
would
make
it
even
more
provocative
the
provocative
not
in
a
negative
way,
but
you
know
provocative
in
terms
of,
and
you
know,
if
I
don't
know
provocative,
it's
the
right
word,
but
you
know
interesting
sensational.
D
I
think
I'm
going
to
bring
it
up
assuming
nate's
there
in
the
dev
meeting
and
see
if
if
this
is
something
we
might
want
to
do,
is
is
directly
to
tackle
this
issue
during
backdrop
live
and
see.
I
can
see
people
from
the
drupal
community
coming
just
for
that
discussion,
because
this
is
obviously
a
big
discussion
in
the
drupal
community.
C
D
What
is
the
future
of
group
seven
and
we
could
talk
about
it
in
a
more
direct
way
in
a
backdrop,
event,
maybe
then,
or
certainly
attract
the
people
that
are
interested
in
that,
and
it
could
be
a
good
it
could
be
get
us
some
attention.
Does
anybody
see
a
downside
to
this.
C
I
mean
if
it
becomes
really,
if,
if
you
get
some
people
who
were
really
anti
it,
could
it
could
become
quite
an
it
might
become
too
antagonistic.
D
I
think
most
of
the
people
that
are
in
this
debate,
while
they
might
be
saying
some
controversial
things
in
print,
if
you've
got
them
in
a
room
face
to
face,
they
would
be
pretty
chill
and
I
think
it
could
be
a
really
good
discussion.
I
mean
it's
not
that
you're
not
wrong.
There
is
some
risk
in
it
getting
controversial,
but
I
don't
think
it's
that
big
or
getting
you
know
dangerously
controversial.
B
So
I
mean
yes
or
no.
I
don't
really
know
what.
C
D
Well,
yeah,
I
I
I
would
go
into
this
with
realistic
expectations,
which
is
that
we're
not
you
know,
I
don't
expect
greece
to
show
up.
I
don't
expect
you
know
major
decision
makers
in
the
in
the
drupal
community,
but
to
me
success
doesn't
mean
that
we
necessarily
get
to
them.
It
means
that
we
just
get
some
you
know
there
are.
We
do
have
friends
that
are
on
the
board.
The
backdrop
board
that
you
know
are
very
interested
in
supportive
of
backdrop
and
they
might
show
up
at
something
like
this
or
we.
D
You
know
we
just
get
people
that
are
involved
in
this
discussion.
You
know
this.
Joseph
olstad
is
really
leading
this
discussion
in
the
drupal
thing
and
he
seems
pretty
convinced
that
backdrop
just
won't
serve
his
needs
and
you
know
maybe
we
could
get
him
to
come
and-
and
we
could
talk
to
him
about
whether
or
not
it
does
meet
his
needs
and
and
either
clarify
why
he
doesn't
think
it
meets
his
needs
or
or
convince
him
otherwise,
and
to
convince
somebody
like
him
that
maybe
it
does
meet
their
needs.
D
D
D
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
end
the
meeting.
If
that's
okay,
bye
everybody,
I'm
gonna,
stop
sharing
bye
for
this
meeting,
see
some
of
you
at
the
next
meeting
and
let's
scan
the
recording.