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B
I
think
we
are
officially
live,
so
I'm
gonna
interrupt
the
the
chatter
to
welcome
everybody
to
our
live
stream.
Oh,
and
as
as
I
do
every
time,
I
don't
know
how
to
mute
this
ahead
of
time,
so
I
have
to
wait
till
the
stream
starts
and
then
quickly
mute
it
so
that
we
don't
get
feedback
here.
It
comes
the
the
stream
is
about
30
seconds
behind
us.
B
There
we
go
okay,
my
apologies
for
that
we
are,
we
are
now
live.
We
are
streaming
on
youtube
as
usual
and
recording
this
for
people
who
want
to
watch
later.
So
if
you
want
to
turn
off
your
camera
or
mic
go
ahead,
but
please
we
encourage
you
to
stick
around,
show
us
your
faces
and
participate
in
the
meeting
the
well.
I
don't
think
we
got
it
out
in
twitter,
but
the
agenda
link
is
in.
B
You
is
in
zulu
for
those
who
have
access
so
feel
free
to
post
your
or
to
get
the
agenda
there.
And
if
you
are
streaming
note
that
usually
we
keep
an
eye
on
zulu.
So
you
can't
ask
us
questions
in
zulu
if
you're
watching
the
stream-
and
we
might-
we
may
or
may
not
see
them
in
reply.
B
B
B
So
I
think
what
I
am
going
to
ask
for
us
to
do
is
to
well
we'll
do
our
introductions
as
usual
and
then,
let's
talk
a
little
bit
about
backdrop,
live
just
to
start
things
out,
and
then
we
can
go
back
to
our
agenda
because
it's
kind
of
urgent,
so
regular
introductions
all
right.
B
B
B
Okay,
so
let's
go
ahead
well
well,
salvatore
is
looking
for
the
agenda.
We
can
do
introductions.
My
name
is
tim
erickson,
I'm
st
paul
tim,
I'm
in
deerwood,
minnesota
and
well,
I'm
fortunately
very
busy
with
client
work
got
a
number.
I've
got
a
couple
of
background
projects
in
the
works
right
now,
two
of
them
in
development,
as
well
as
support
on
a
number
of
them
and
also
other
drupal
sites
and
have
been
kind
of
swamped
with
backdrop.
Work
as
well.
B
We've
got
a
lot
going
on,
in
particular
backdrop
live,
which
I
we're
going
to
talk
about
shortly.
Joseph.
C
A
Okay,
my
name
is
sarvashri
and
I
am
new
to
backdrop
at
one
time.
I
created
some
drupal
sites,
but
I'm
not
very
good
at
any
of
it
and
I'm
trying
to
learn
more
and
my
goal
is
to
create
a
an
awesome
way
for
people
to
learn
more
about
backdrop
and
create
wonderful
websites
for
themselves,
especially
new
people
who
don't
have
developer
experience,
people
who
want
to
be
site
builders,
not
full-fledged
developers,
and
so
that's
what
I'm
working
on
ultimate
back
ultimate
guide
to
backdrop
for
newbies,
I'm
in
north
carolina.
A
E
When
they're
making
noises,
I'm
very
excited
about
backdrop,
live
and
all
the
exciting
stuff
we
have
going
on,
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
this.
B
That's
why
I
tend
not
to
mute
myself,
but
we
noticed
earlier.
The
washing
machine
was
going
in
the
background,
but
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
stopped
now.
So
I'll
probably
be
okay
right
before
you
arrive
jen.
I
am
both
excited
and
a
little
panicky
about
backdrop
live
because
it's
a
week
from
tomorrow
we're
definitely
behind
a
schedule
in
our
planning
than
we
were
for
the
last
one
and
I'm
also
just
busier
with
other
stuff
than
I
was
for
the
last
one.
B
So
I
I
doubt
I
can
commit
the
amount
of
time
I
did,
which
was
a
lot
in
the
week
prior
to
the
last
one.
To
you
know,
there
was
a
lot
of
outreach
to
individuals,
just
one-on-one.
You
know
getting
them
to
submit
topics
and
even
to
sign
up.
D
B
Mostly,
I
think
that's
because
we've
really
just
got
the
registration
live
about
two
days
ago
and
haven't
promoted
it
as
heavily
as
we
could.
So
I
think
there
there
are
things
we
could
do.
I
think
we
could
get
people
there
in
the
next
week,
but
I'm
a
little
bit
nervous
about
our
ability
to
do
that.
So
so
I
do
think
we
should
we've
been
trying
to
do.
Backdrop
live
business
separate
from
this
meeting,
but
given
the
short
timeline,
I
want
to
talk
about
it
a
little
bit.
So
what?
B
How
do
other
people
feel
about
that?
Where
we're
at
and
our
what
we
can
get
done
in
the
next
week?
Anyone.
E
I
feel
like
the
great
thing
about
this
community,
and
this
event
is
that
it
will,
if
we
needed
to
it,
will
run
itself.
So
I
think
that
you
know
if
we
have
the
time
to
organized
a
lot
like
you
did
last
time.
That's
fantastic
and
I
think
it'll
be
great,
but
I
also
think
that
we
will
find
a
way
to
make
it
happen,
even
if
we
don't
have
as
much
volunteer
time.
So
I'm
not
at
all
worried
about
it.
E
I'm
looking
forward
to
it
and
looking
forward
to
hearing
about
what
our
community
is
up
to
and
yeah,
I'm
feeling
good.
B
A
So
maybe
at
the
beginning,
maybe
at
the
beginning
of
the
backdrop
live
there
could
be
a
listing
for
people
to
add
to
of
things
they
want
to
work
with
things.
They
want
to
look
at
things
that
they
need,
and
so
there
and
and
you
know,
even
organizing
right
at
the
beginning
of
the
event,
people
could
latch
on
to
things
and
then
set
a
time
for
them
and
you're
off
and
running.
Maybe
I
think
that's
sort
of
how
you
did
it
last
time.
A
You
had
more,
you
had
more
things
to
talk
about,
but
you
know
those
things
are
usually
similar
from
from
time
to
time.
So.
B
All
that
is
true.
Theoretically,
it
sort
of
ran
itself
last
time,
but
there
was
a
lot
of
work
that
went
into
making
it
run
itself.
We
have
the
advantage
this
time
of
having
people
have
been
through
it
before.
So
I
think
the
ability
for
it
to
run
itself
is
greater
this
time.
B
So
I
don't
disagree
with
any
of
those
things
I
you
know
it
will
be
a
bit
different,
but
I
I
think
our
expectation
wasn't
that
it
would
be
the
same
that
for
one
it'll,
it'll
probably
be
a
little
smaller,
because
it's
only
a
one
day,
event
and
yeah,
and
just
because
of
the
the
resources
that
went
into
it
this
time,
but
also
we'll
be.
We
are
setting
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
work
that
has
went
into
this
backdrop.
B
Live
has
been
setting
up
the
infrastructure
in
a
way
that
we
didn't
the
first
time
right.
We've
actually
got
an
event
site
which
will
be
permanent,
and
so
next
time
we'll
have
all
of
this
work
done.
You
know
we
didn't
inherit
that
quite
as
nicely
from
the
last
event,
this
would
have
been
good,
okay.
B
Well,
I
do
have.
I
will
make
time
this
weekend
to
sort
of
dive
in
and
clean
up
the
website
and
better
prepare
that
for
the
event
itself,
but
we
also
really
do
need
to
do
some
outreach
and
also
as
much
as
the
schedule
can
sort
of
pull
itself
together.
I
think
it
really
helps
to
get
some
ideas
and
some
things
pre-planned.
B
B
B
Not
yet
I
mean
last
time,
I
don't
think
we
did
that
till
about
three
days
before
so
we're
we're
ahead
of
schedule
on
that
there
is,
there
is
on
the
events
page,
so
the
closest
there
is
is,
there
is
an
event
listing
and
the
event
listing
links
to
the
page,
but
we
did
I
mean
thanks
for
reminding
us
joseph,
because
I
think
yes
getting,
that
up
on
the
front
we
had.
D
B
Like
right
before
the
the
last
couple
of
days,
we
got
a
link
on
the
you
know
the
top
of
the
home
page,
and
we
should
do
that
right
away.
In
fact,
I'd
be
surprised.
Your
channel
isn't
halfway
done
already.
B
Okay,
I
I'll
I'm
gonna,
say
one
or
two
more
things
where
I
just
where
I
think
the
biggest
need
is
in
case
anybody's
watching
this
later,
and
that
is
the
the
one
of
the
things
is
the
the
the
night
sort
of
our
european
friends
we
have.
Our
schedule
is
three
hour
blocks
over
24
hours
and
last
time
we
were
really
scrambling
to
fill
that
european
spot.
I
think
we
have
a
couple
of
people
who
said
they
can
help
out
during
that
time
frame.
B
B
B
B
Okay
and
well,
let
me
you
know
again,
because
other
people
might
watch
this
the
places
that
I
think
we
need
the
most
help
or
the
things
that
people
can
do
and
jan
listen
and
head
to
this
list
is
one.
We
need
people
to
just
sort
of
step
up
and
suggest
topics
and
agree
to
facilitate
them.
Two,
just
any
outreach
that
people
can
do
in
their
own
circles.
So
if
there's
any
places
that
you
can
post
announcements,
please
do
that
three.
B
B
But
what
where
we
last
left,
our
discussion
in
terms
of
using
zoom
was
having
a
one
zoom
room
with
breakout
sessions,
and
I
think
that
is
going
to
work,
but
I
feel
like
we
need
to
test
it
a
little
bit
more,
but
the
one
thing
we
know
about,
if
that
is
to
work,
is
that
we're
going
to
need
a
volunteer
to
stay
in
that
main
room
at
all
times,
so
we're
going
to
need
a
volunteer.
That's
not
in
a
session.
That's
just
sort
of
staffing.
B
A
B
B
That
got
live
march,
20,
okay,
you're
in
the
right
place.
So
again,
sir
austria,
this
isn't
the
site
isn't
as
designed
or
as
easy
to
use,
as
is
ideally
it
would
be.
But
if
you
just
scroll
down
the
middle
of
the
main
page,
it's
an
image
of
us
a
google
sheet
and
that's
that's
our
current
schedule.
We
will
try
to
get
this
on.
B
B
A
B
Is
not
where
okay,
this
is
not.
We
can
do
better
and
we
will
try
to
do
better
over
the
next
few
days,
but
for
now
that's
where
the
schedule
is.
There
is
not
any
place
right
now,
where
you
can
just
sign
yourself
up.
Hopefully
we'll
also
get
that
working,
but
for
now
what
you
can
do
is
in
zulu.
Let
us
know
what
you're
available
to
do
and
when
and
we
can
get
you
scheduled
and
hopefully
before
the
event
will
have
that
in
a
way
that
anybody
can
just
sign
themselves
up.
B
B
Okay,
so
I
know
sir
sent
out
this
message
and
would
like
to
talk
about
video
tutorials
I'd
like
to
sort
of
skim
through
the
just
other
for
social
media.
For
most
everything
else,
I
mean
we're
actually
in
a
pretty
good
shape,
outreach
wise
in
terms
of
our
meeting
the
regular
things
we
want
to
do.
We've
had
at
least
one
or
two
blog
posts
go
out
in
the
last
week.
We've
had
a
newsletter
go
out.
We've
had
a
virtual
user
group.
B
This
week
we
have,
I
think,
a
full
dashboard
of
fresh
dashboard
notifications,
partly
because
of
although
we
need
to,
I
think
we
have
a
dashboard
notification
for
the
virtual
user
group.
That
already
happened,
but
we
need
so
we'll
need
to
refresh
that.
B
We've
even
had
a
few
things
on
twitter
and
facebook,
so
I
I
think
we've
sort
of
had
more
outreach
activity
going
on
in
the
last
couple
weeks
than
we
usually
do.
Is
there
anything.
B
That
should
be
that
people
can.
We
can
mention
or
announcements
that
we
should
get
out
in
any
of
these
places.
B
E
B
B
So,
okay,
so
I
think
that
that
copy
of
the
newsletter
should,
like
just
focus
on
backdrop,
live,
and
so
we
don't
really
need.
You
know
worry
about
content
too
much,
because.
B
So
I'm
skipping
down
over
a
lot
of
this.
The
external
mentions
same
thing:
if
you're
aware
of
any
posts
or
activity
on
the
internet
that
we
should
link
to,
please
let
us
know,
I
think
we've
had
a
few
of
those
posted
recently.
B
A
Yeah,
basically,
what
I'm
feeling
is
that
I
did
a.
I
did
a
search
to
see
what
videos
were
available
for
newbies
to
learn
backdrop,
and
I
couldn't
find
anything
that
was
remotely
usable
by
new
user,
and
so
I
made
a
list
of
11
videos
that
ought
to
be
made
11
or
12
videos
that
need
to
be
made
for
new
users
who
are
just
getting
into
site
building.
A
A
They
want
to
be
able
to
know
how
they
should
know
how
to
position
it
and
how
to
size
it
to
match
what
they
with
the
look
that
they
want,
and
they
do
that
basically,
in
three
different
areas,
one
is
the
front
page,
which
is
unique.
The
landing
page
is
always
unique
and
then
they're
static
pages
for
information
that
they
want
to
cover
on
their
website
with
menu
links.
A
They
need
to
know
how
to
create
a
blog
for
their
transitory
articles,
things
that
they
come
and
go
and
they
want
to
be
able
to
actually
make
their
website
useful
for
promotional
purposes.
For
instance,
they
want
to
be
able
to
capture
the
name
and
email
address
and
other
data
of
the
users
of
their
website,
whether
that's
customers
or
members
or
followers
or
staff
or,
however,
their
website
is
being
used.
There's
people
coming
to
it
and
how
are
they
going
to
reach
those
people
later?
A
They
need
to
be
able
to
grab
that
information,
put
it
somewhere
and
integrate
that
user
information
into
some
sort
of
system,
an
email
or
marketing
system,
so
they
can
keep
in
touch
with
their
their
market
or
their
followers
or
whatever
they're
doing
for
people
who
are
creating
websites,
they
usually
have
to
sell
a
service
or
a
product.
So
how
are
they
going
to
sell
that
service
or
product?
A
A
So
those
are
the
11
things
that
are
listed.
Maybe
that
can
be
put
somewhere.
Those
of
you
who
received
it
and
all
of
this
needs
to
be
done
with
quality,
video
and
audio
audio
needs
to
be
really
clean.
Without
a
lot
of
background
noises
and
and
so
forth,
the
video
needs
to
be
focused
and
usable,
and
so
we
need
some
people
who
know
how
to
create
videos
that
allow
them
to
show
off
the
benefits
of
backdrop
as
compared
to
other
things.
A
A
12
videos
could
be
done
in
in
probably
a
month
or
two
with
two
or
three
people
working
on
it
full
board.
We
could
create
some
really
nice
videos
that
get
people
started,
and
then
they
can
run
with
it.
A
B
Sorry,
I
I
did
try
to
like
cut
you
away
your
your
notes
into
our
media
meeting
minutes,
but
I'm
having
problems
with
zulub
right
now.
I
may
need
to
reboot
my
system,
and
I
don't
want
to
do
that
in
the
middle
of
the
meeting.
So
if
anybody
else
wants
to
do
that,
I
think
it
belongs
in
github,
though
we
really
should
have
an
issue,
but
I
think
in
general
your
idea
is
not
something
anyone's
gonna
argue
with.
B
D
B
And
right,
all
of
us
are
so
busy
with
so
many
different
things,
and
I
know
you
in
your
email
said
like
this
should
be
so
important
that
we
just
set
aside
other
things
and
focus
on
this,
and-
and
I
recognize
you're-
also
saying
that
it
wouldn't
everybody
wouldn't
have
to
do
that.
We
just
need
a
couple
of
people
to
focus
on
it.
B
So
I'm
just
trying
to
think
about
we.
You
know,
we've
talked
about
things
like
this
many
many
times.
The
question
is:
what's
blocking
it,
how
do
we
get
past
that
I
I
have
aspired
to
do
something
like
this
sort
of
on
my
own
and
my
own
youtube
account
for
a
long
time.
You
know
that,
because
that's
how
we
met
yeah
was
sarvajri
started
to
participate
in
a
course
that
I
tried
to
teach
about
a
year
ago
at
this
time.
Actually
it
was.
B
I
think
it
was
like
right
at
the
beginning
of
the
whole,
so
it
isn't
that
there's
a
desire
to
do
it.
It's.
How
do
we
break
through
that
and.
B
Would
be
that,
what's
that,
what
it
needs
is
just
somebody
that's
willing
to
spearhead
it
and
sort
of
be
the
project
manager,
and
then
other
people
like
myself,
would
definitely
step
up
and
help
and
commit
some
time
to
it.
The
problem
is,
I
don't
have
the
time
to
like
take
the
lead
on
it,
and
I
don't
know,
I
think
sorry
I
get
the
feeling
that
you
would
be
willing
to
to
be
a
part
of
this
yeah.
I.
A
A
And
luke
was
starting
to
do
something
with
github
with
it.
I
don't
know
how
to
use
github,
but
he
was
starting.
He
was
trying
to
get
what
he
calls
a
ready
to
wear
thing,
and
this
is
along
those
lines,
so
maybe
luke
and
myself
could
could
team
up
to
spearhead
this
thing.
A
I
was
watching
one
of
them,
but
the
audio
is.
This
is
not
good.
You
need
a
a
direct
mic
to
make
those
things
work
in
a
live
environment,
but
anyway,
that's
that's
what
I'm
that's
what
I'm
after
maybe
this
could
be
something
that
could
be
part
of
the
upcoming
live
thing
that
we
could.
We
could
use
that
as
a
entree
to
grab
people
to
do
these
things.
B
A
B
Well,
the
three
things
I
can
think
of
is
we
have
different
tools
for
different
purposes
right,
so
certainly
for
day-to-day
communication.
Zoolop
works.
Well,
we
have
github
for
project
management
and
if
you
need
help
learning
how
to
use
github,
we
could
help
you
with
that.
I'd
be
happy
to
like
spend
a
half
an
hour
or
an
hour
and
do
a
one-on-one
tutorial
with
you
and
show
you
around
github,
because
I'm
sure
you'd
be
fine
in
it.
B
It's
a
little
intimidating
when
you
first
look
at
it,
but
it's
not
that
hard,
because
you're
not
going
to
need
to
do
pull
requests
or
anything
like
that.
You
know
you
don't
have
to
work
with
code.
You
just
need
to
use
it
kind
of
like
a
discussion
forum
and
the
third
thing
would
be
zoom
if
you
need
help
setting
up
zoom
rooms
again.
B
A
Does
video
discussions
are
really
great,
I
think,
and
maybe
is
there
a
place
on
the
forum
in
the
backdrop
forum,
for
this
sort
of
thing.
B
There
certainly
could
be,
I
think
I
don't
know
if
we
have
a
like
a
dedicated
topic
area
for
like
instructional
stuff
right.
A
Documentation,
you
know
I
went
through
all
the
documentation,
the
user
manual.
That
did
not
empower
me
to
do
anything
that
I
didn't
know
already
how
to
do,
which
was
not
much.
Okay.
The
documentation
won't
won't
serve
that
purpose
for
a
newbie
it
might
for
an
experienced
developer.
B
Sure,
I
don't
think
the
forum,
in
my
view,
is
the
best
place
for
organizing
this.
It
is
a
place
that
you
could
post
updates
for
or
stuff,
but
we
really
think
of
the
forum
as
mostly
a
place
just
for
people
to
give
input
or
ask
questions.
B
Sure,
okay,
so
it
sounds
to
me
like
the
next
steps
on
this
are
one
to
do.
Let's
I
don't
want
to
commit
to
anything
before
backdrop
live
so
let's
get
it
on
the
agenda
for
backdrop
live
and
then
with
the
goal,
to
set
up
a
follow-up
meeting
and
to
sort
of
set
an
agenda
to
get
input
after
backdrop
live
at
the
very
maybe
you
and
I
serve
australia
can
do
that.
B
Github
video
and
you
know
like
we
could
do
a
one-on-one
session
and
I
could
walk
you
through
how
and
we
could
record
it-
maybe
edit
it
afterwards
and
go
from
there.
How
does
that
sound.
B
Okay
yeah,
so
it's
a
great
topic,
it's
just.
How
do
we
get
it
done
and
I
think
so,
rashford
you've
moved
us
a
step
forward.
So
thank
you.
B
And
I
I
sort
of
lump
this
together
with
documentation,
because
this
is
a
kind
of
documentation,
but
obviously
there's
a
lot
of
other
things
going
on
in
terms
of
documentation
right
now,
but
I
don't
know
if
it's
anything
to
report
on.
I
feel
like
that.
The
work
on
the
new
documentation
site
hasn't
changed
since
we
last
talked
about
it.
B
I
did
actually
post
a
couple
of
youtube
videos
in
the
last
two
weeks,
just
but
they're,
not
exactly
what
sarasota
is
looking
for,
they're
more
like
how
to
use
specific
modules.
So
there
is
some
some
new
video
content
out.
There
related
to
backdrop.
A
B
A
B
E
Yeah
I
mean,
I
think,
there's
always
been
sort
of
a
smattering
of
online
videos
for
people
who
just
are
passionate
about
making
videos
and
figured
something
out
and
made
one,
but
the
real
kicker
that
made
it
complete
was
when
companies
like
modules
unraveled.
Your
boys
me
build
a
module,
came
out
with
a
business
model
behind
having
video
tutorials
for
stuff,
and
that
was
the
main
driver.
I
know
you
know
nate's
entire
experience
of
doing
videos
was
back
when
it
came
on
like
cd
in
the
mail,
and
you
couldn't
even
watched
it.
E
He
hasn't
done
anything
in
the
online
video
space.
They
just
converted
all
of
his
cd
roms
into
videos,
and
then
I
came
along
a
lot
later.
When
drupal
is
me
first
started,
they
hired
me
to
make
video
tutorials
on
a
specific
subject,
but
I
mean
without
having
a
business
entity
that
wants
to
do
like
online
backdrop
tutorials.
We
don't
necessarily
have
that
project
management
organization
coming
behind
us
being
like.
E
We
need
these
four
videos
on
these
four
topics,
and
I
know
that
there
are
a
couple
people
in
our
community
that
are
passionate
about
making
videos.
I
have
a
client
who
makes
training
videos
for
his
business,
who
loves
backdrop
and
wants
to
make
training
videos
for
backdrop,
but
he
just
doesn't
have
any
time
and
I
think
that's
kind
of
what
we're
facing
in
a
lot
of
areas
where
I
know
at
least
for
me,
making
the
videos
to
make
one
hour.
Video
took
like
10
hours
of
time,
and
so
it's
just
hard
to
justify.
E
E
So
I
think
it's
hard
it's
hard
to
to
justify
setting
aside
that
time
and
forcing
yourself
to
do
it
without
you
know
company
paying
you
to
do
it
or
somebody
asking
you
nicely
to
do
it,
but
it's
just
up
to
you.
It's
much
harder
to.
A
Are
there
some
people
in
the
community
who
are
video
producers.
E
I
don't
know
about
the
the
word
producer
what
that
actually
means,
but
I
know
that
there
are
people
in
the
community
who
make
videos
for
other
purposes,
but
I
don't
know
if
that's
like
their
job.
You
know
I'm
not
sure
they
have
like
professional
skills,
but
it's
just
something
they
do
like.
They
make
online
tutorials
about
other
things.
Well,.
A
I've
been
watching
a
number
of
sort
of
news
sites
and
the
way
the
the
news
sites
make
videos
is
they
have
two
people,
one
person
sort
of
the
question
answer
newbie
person
and
the
other,
the
other
one
is
the
expert
or
whatever,
and
they
go
back
and
forth.
What
about
this?
We're
about
this
and
the
person
comes
on
and
he
describes
the
latest
news
on
that
particular
subject.
The
same
thing
could
be
done
to
create
these
videos.
You
have
somebody
who
is
a
newbie
like
myself,
who
doesn't
understand
what
to
do.
A
I
know
what
I
want,
but
I
don't
know
how
to
to
do
it.
So
if
you
paired
me
up
or
somebody
like
me
with
someone
who's,
an
expert
in
backdrop
and
say,
okay,
I
want
to
I
have
these
12
things.
I
need
to
know
to
be
able
to
do
backdrop.
Well,
so
we'll
start
with
number
one.
How
do
you
do
this?
How
do
you
do
this?
I
never
did
find
out
how
to
make
a
site
go,
live
without
putting
it
in
maintenance
mode
and
replacing
the
website.
A
You
know
or
something
you
know,
and
then
you
know,
but
there's
got
to
be
ways
that
that
people
do
it
properly.
I
don't
know
what
that
is,
there's
all
kinds
of
little
gotchas.
If
you
don't
know
how
to
do
it,
you
get
stuck,
and
I
get
stuck
for
days
and
weeks
at
a
time
and
I
give
up
for
a
while-
and
I
come
back
four
months
later
and
I
start
again.
E
This
is
a
good
idea,
though
we
could
have
some
kind
of
a
like
ask
an
expert
series
where,
if
somebody
came
up
with
a
list
of
like
five
questions,
you
could
sit
down
with
an
expert
for
like
half
an
hour,
and
I
think
anyone
in
the
backdrop
community
would
be
willing
to
give
up
half
an
hour
to
answer
five
questions
and
that
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
like
speaking
answers
that
could
be
screen
share.
It
could
be.
E
Let
me
show
you
my
personal
way
I
like
to
do
that,
maybe
different
than
someone
else's
and
an
explanation.
Why,
and
that
could
be
really
fun
too.
E
If
we
had
asking
experts
with
like
30
different
people
right
or
each
person
would
be
like
here's,
the
five
questions
I'm
answering,
so
you
get
answers
to
all
those
questions,
but
it
wouldn't
necessarily
rest
on
the
shoulders
of,
like
one
person
who's
a
video
producer
to
do
it,
you
could
have
more
of
a
like
community
involved
perspectives
on
answering
these
questions,
so
that
could
be
fun.
E
A
So
I
really
like
that
idea.
For
one
thing:
it's
more
lively,
it's
more
interesting,
it's
more
fun
for
the
expert,
and
rather
than
just
sitting
and
trying
to
figure
out
what
somebody
wants
and
doing
it
all
by
themselves.
Yeah,
you
know
two
people
working
together
so
much
more
fun
than
somebody
just
sitting
there.
I
need
to
create
another
tutorial.
A
A
I'm
giving
it
to
you
but
yeah,
it's
it's
an
idea.
This
idea
ask
the
expert
thing.
You
came
up
with
that
phrase
and
I
think
that's
that's
really
a
grabbing
phase
phrase.
It's
really
a
good
one
and
people
would
want
to
be
to
participate
in
something
like
that.
B
So
I
so
if
people
probably
already
noticed
I've
taken
a
bit
more
responsibility
for
the
outreach
meetings
lately,
one
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
do
in
the
future
is
clean
up
our
agenda
and
organize
it
a
little
bit
more
because
I
feel
like
it
gets
a
little
repetitive
right
now.
If
I
just
follow
through
the
template
we
are
we
were
talking
about.
B
I
don't
know
at
this
point
I
just
like
anything
else
on
the
agenda
that
anybody
wants
to
talk
about,
I'm
going
to
try
and
schedule
some
more
virtual
user
groups
after
we'll
we'll
skip
next
two
weeks
from
our
next
next
couple
weeks
because
of
backdrop
live
so
we'll
talk
about
that
later.
Is
there
anything
else
going
on
in
the
world
of
outreach
that
we
need
to
talk
about
in
our
last
five.
A
A
I'm
looking
at
the
schedule
now
and
it's
starting
out
with
theming
and
layouts
and
backdrop.
I
think
there
should
be
an
introduction
to
backdrop
as
the
very
first
thing
you're
looking
at
the.
A
B
Okay,
that
that
is
just
a
list
of
possible
topics:
that's
not
a
schedule,
so
those
are
all
topics
that
could
come
up.
So
we
should
rephrase
that,
because
that
I
see
how
that's
confusing.
A
B
B
There's
been
several
requests
to
have
a
discussion
about
funding
backdrop,
development,
backdrop,
governance.
We
have
somebody
asked
about
backdrop,
cms
and
cvcrm.
B
The
basically,
the
way
scheduled
development
is
happening.
Right
now
is,
I
am
just
sort
of
placing
things
on
there
and
asking
people
for
feedback
and
we
can
move
things
around.
So
if
you
have
a
topic,
I'd
love
for
people
to
say,
I'd
like
to
talk
about
x,
I'll,
facilitate
it,
and
I
want
to
put
it
in
slot
8..
If
you
tell
me
that
that
makes
the
job
a
lot
easier,
so
you
should
tell
us
what
we
want
to
add
on
here.
B
Jen,
I'm
having
my
normal
panic
at
this
stage
about
in
terms
of
topics
about
things
like
what
sarasota
just
said.
We.
B
We,
we
sort
of
said
you
know
we
want
to
build
our
own
schedule.
We
want
to
have
recorded
sessions
in
advance
and
have
a
discussion
orientated,
but
where
does
the
like
welcome
introduction
to
backdrop?
Go?
Do
we
just
call
that
a
discussion
topic
and
you
know
what
what
are
there
things
like
that,
that
we
want
to
kind
of
make
sure
we
get
into
the
schedule.
E
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think
we
definitely
want
to
be
sure.
We
have
that
if,
if
we
want
to
do
it
as
a
discussion,
it
would
be
great
if
we
could
have
the
facilitator,
be
like
someone
who
could
ask
the
questions
and
then
the
conversation
could
be
like
the
room
answering
it
rather
than
the
facilitator
being
someone
who
was
giving
a
lecture
in
order
to
keep
it
more
open
in
discussion
format.
E
But
I
do
think
we
should
definitely
have
at
least
one
intro
to
backdrop
or
what
is
stackdrop
or
whatever
style
sort
of
curiosity
answering
session
for
maybe
not
each
time
zone,
but
one
on
opposite
times
of
the
schedule
so
that
we
can
have
people
in
every
part
of
the
world.
Get
those
questions
answered.
A
A
B
B
Sure
I
mean
my
feedback
on
that
is
I
mean
I
don't
disagree
that,
like
one
of
the
first
sessions,
could
be
getting
started
with
backdrop
or
intro
for
most
participants
they're
past
that.
So
I
don't
consider
that
the
grand
opening
our
big
welcome
session
we've
actually
scheduled
in
the
third
slot
and
the
reason
we
did.
That
is
because
it's
6
a.m
on
the
west
coast,
and
we
wanted
just
a
more
friendly
time
to
have
our
big
what
I
would
call
the
grand
opening.
B
But
I
don't
disagree
that
that,
like
opening
having
one
of
the
first
two
sessions
be
an
introduction
to
backdrop
or
getting
there.
A
Could
be,
it
could
be
a
third
session
that
would
be
one
o'clock,
no
11
o'clock
right.
B
Well,
yeah,
but
that
is
not
going
to
be
a
an
intro
to
backdrop
because
75
of
the
people
that
are
at
I'm
making
up
that
number.
Of
course,
most
people
are
past
the
stage
of
an
introduction
to
backdrop.
They
know
who
they
it
is.
They
know
what
they
want,
so
that
welcome
session,
for
me
is
more
about.
What's
new
in
the
world
of
backdrop,
it's
like
here's
what's
happening
right
now.
This
is
what
we've
accomplished
since
our
last
big
meeting.
B
It's
that
kind
of
thing
I
think,
having
an
introduction
to
backdrop
session
appeared
with
something
else.
That's
maybe
a
little
more
advanced
in
the
first
slot
makes
sense.
Although
jen
knows
that
I'm
going
to
ask
her
to
do
it
and
at
6am
for
hers.
B
A
That's
fine,
it
could
be
a
grand
opening,
it
could
be
10
a.m.
It
could
be
anytime
yeah,
but
sometime
early
in
the
early
in
the
thing
it
should
be
something
for
new
people.
B
D
B
Should
we
so
I
would,
I
think,
getting
started
with
backdrop
or
intro
to
backdrop
are
two
different
ways
of
saying
the
same
thing:
anybody.
How
should
we
do
that,
and
does
anybody
want
to
volunteer
to
do
one
of
those.
B
Let's
get
that
out
I'll,
get
that
out
on
zulu
and
see
if
we
can
get
some
people
to
volunteer
to
do
that
jen.
Do
you
think
we
should
have
like
the
same
topic
twice
at
different
times
of
the
day
or
like
similarly
titled
topics.
E
It
doesn't
matter,
I
think
similar
is
fine,
especially
if
we
get
different
facilitators
for
each
one.
What
them,
however,
yeah
something
something
that
covers
the
same
general
content.
B
In
my
view,
what
I
plan
to
tell
people
in
terms
of
like
presentation
is
that
we're
not
looking
for
any
prepared
presentations,
but
I
do
think
that,
like
having
a
backdrop,
site,
open
and
screen
sharing-
and
you
know,
walking
people
around
and
letting
people
ask
questions,
you
know
that
that
the
facilitator
for
this
should
be
prepared
to
do
that
right.
A
Whoever's
facilitating
should
be
able
to
do
it.
Yeah
yeah.