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A
C
Yeah,
I
will
try
to
fix
that,
but
welcome
to
our
weekly
outreach
meeting,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we
started
recording
if
anybody
doesn't
want
to
be
recorded.
Please
turn
yourself
off
so
this
is
meeting
has
been
recorded.
It
will
be
on
youtube
available
afterwards,
let's
just
start
with
their
introductions
and
then
we'll
get
into
the
meeting,
I'm
tim
erickson.
C
I
am
in
coming
to
you
from
gearwood
minnesota.
St
paul
tim
is
my
username
on
on
the
site,
and
I
just
got
my
first
covid
vaccine
today.
So
I'm
happy
about
that
jack.
Do
you
want.
A
To
go
next
sure
hi,
all
pronouns,
are
they
in
them?
I
am
part
of
palante
in
the
pmc
here
and
I
am
in
oakland
and
my
first
vaccine
is
scheduled
for
saturday,
so
I'm
very
excited.
B
So
I'm
I'll
go
next,
so
my
name
is
greg,
I'm
usually
in
australia,
but
due
to
covet
situation.
Now,
I'm
back
home
at
greece
joining
again
for
just
to
keep
in
touch
with
the
outreach,
no
vaccines.
D
C
C
If
anybody's
looking
at
the
agenda,
they'll
notice,
I
put
a
link
to
a
mirror
board
at
the
top.
The
mirror
board
is
similar
to
the
mural
board
that
we
experimented
with
at
backdrop
live,
and
it's
just
a
white
board,
and
I
thought
it
might
be
useful
if
anybody
wants
to
take
a
look
at
it
today.
Actually,
let
me
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen
for
a.
C
B
C
C
Okay,
moving
this
zoom
bar
around
so
that
I
can
get
to
things.
I
accidentally
mute
myself.
I
thought
gregory
when
you
posted
the
the
link.
I
assumed
you
posted
the
agenda
as
well,
so
I
will
get
it
right
now.
C
So
going
back
to
the
mural
board.
C
I
would
like
to
to
to
see
if
we
can't
do
some
things
to
make
these
meetings.
These
outreach
meetings
in
particular
be
a
little
more
effective
and
efficient
in
terms
of
following
up
and
getting
things
done,
and
I
thought
that
a
mural
board
could
be
something
and
it's
just
an
experiment
now
for
a
while,
where
we
could
track
some
of
the
ongoing
things
we're
doing
in
a
little
bit
better
and
more
visual
way,
and
I
think
this
could
be
helpful.
C
I
welcome
input
on
this
and
and
let's
just
consider
it
an
experiment
for
a
few
weeks,
and
we
can
see
if
it's
helpful,
I
don't
plan
for
this
to
replace
the
agenda.
At
this
point,
I
could
see
that
possibly
in
the
future,
but
maybe
not
today,
but
it's
a
place.
We
can
sort
of
track
things
like
blog
posts.
These
things
that
we
we
we
have
been
talking
about
in
our
agenda
anyways
on
a
weekly
basis,
but
a
mural
for
something
like
this.
C
Actually,
so
we
experimented
with
a
tool
called
mural
boards
at
backdrop
live
and
afterwards
for
mid
camp.
They
use
this
mirror
board
and
I
took
a
look
at
it
and
I
like
it
better.
So
that's
why
I
thought
I'd.
Try
that
and
where
it
in
particular
could
be
handy,
I
think,
isn't
cracking
things
like
blog
posts.
I
I
did.
I
want
to
comment
that
I
have
found.
There
is
a
link,
a
content
strategy
link
in
the
backdrop.org
issue,
queue
that
includes
a
big
graphic.
C
B
C
C
I
can
try
and
look
that
up
afterwards,
but
the
this
this
the
mirror
board
that
I'm
sharing
anybody
should
be
able
to
edit
it
might
take
a
little
bit
of
getting
used
to
but,
for
example,
blog
posts.
If
we
have
ideas,
just
posting
them
here
could
be
helpful
to
me
and
it's
something
anybody
this.
This
mural
board
would
stay
consistent
over
time,
so
anybody
could
update
this
at
any
time.
I
could
come
here
and
add
ideas
if
they
have
them.
C
So
I
have
some
very
generic
ideas
right.
You
know,
like
categories
of
things,
I
put
down
things
that
we
we
tend
to
tweet
about.
If
anybody
has
any
specific
ideas
right
now,
the
twitter,
our
social
media
stream,
has
been
a
little
bit
quiet
in
the
last
week.
So
if
anybody
right
now
would
be
a
good
time,
if
you
have
anything
that
we
should
be
tweeting
about
or
facebooking
or
whatever.
C
Blog
posts
so
again,
I
think,
with
with
blog
posts.
C
I
thought
about
having
getting
something
in
having
a
list
of
blog
posts
that
are
actively
being
worked
on
and
maybe
working
a
little
hard.
What
we
you
know
since
I've
been
on
the
coming
to
these
meetings.
We
frequently
sort
of
assign
blog
posts
to
people,
but
I
don't
know
that
we
or
people
volunteer
to
do
them
and
then
oftentimes.
They
don't
happen,
and
we
don't
really.
C
You
know,
follow
up
with
the
schedule
too
rigidly
and
I'd
like
to
start
putting
myself
down.
You
know
on
a
map
and-
and
hopefully
you
guys
bugging
me
a
little
bit
if,
if
I've
agreed
to
do
a
blog
post
and
have
it
right
now,
I
think
the
big
one
I
want
to
do
is,
on
a
backdrop,
live
a
follow-up
on
backdrop,
live.
C
On
the
backdrop
blog,
we
have
a
blog
backdrop,
cms
blog.
C
C
Right
yeah,
I
think
it's
fine
to
leave
it
the
final
destination,
the
way
it
is,
but
at
least
if
somebody
types
that
it
takes
them
where
they
want
to
go,
does
anybody
else
have
any
so
I'm
going
to
put
myself
down
for
this?
Does
anybody
else
have
any
other
ideas
things
that
we
could
or
should
be
vlogging
about
right
now,
whether
or
not
you're
willing
to
do.
B
C
The
so
this
came
up
recently.
Somebody
wanted
to
post
a
blog,
and
I
think
we
all
sort
of
acknowledge
that
there's
no
official
policy
to
like
to
to
that.
We
have
to
spread
them
out,
but
I
think
we
have
had
a
goal
to
do
like
one
a
week.
So
if
a
blog
post,
if
there's
already
been
a
blog
post
in
one
week-
and
you
do
another
one
that
isn't
urgent,
it's
nice
to
save
it
to
the
next
one.
C
But
but.
C
For
that
I
think
peter
when
peter
wrote
his
blog,
he
asked
about
that
and
the
general
consensus
was:
you
know
that
you
can
post
post
blog
posts
anytime,
but
to
the
extent
that
we're
able
to
spread
them
out,
that's
nice.
C
So
I
think
the
pmc
needs
to
talk
about
this,
but
I
think
being
a
little
providing
a
little
more
updates
on
what
the
pmc
is
doing
would
be
a
great
idea.
I'm
gonna
not
schedule
that
right
now,
because
we
need
to
talk
about
it
as
the
pmc,
but
I
think
it
should
at
least
be
on
the
idea
pool.
B
A
A
I
think
it
would
be
good
for
us
to
write,
maybe
especially
since
we're
planning
to
use
civi.
Maybe
from
that
perspective,
like
once
we
get
that
sorted
out.
Maybe
a
post
about
you
know
both
that
we
are
using
the
crm
ourselves
and
also
about
the
integration.
C
Yeah
that
sounds
right
so
anyways
we
do
have
an
upcoming
meeting
about
that.
So
it's
definitely
something
an
idea
that
should
at
least
be
in
the
pool.
Are
you
ready
to
put
that
on
the
to
volunteer
and
put
that
on
the
agenda.
C
That
makes
sense-
and
I'm
still
getting
used
to
this,
but
there's
a
way
to
add
notes
to
these
that's
a
little
smaller.
B
B
B
D
C
Right
so,
sir,
one
of
one
of
the
issues
you
we
face
about,
that
is
the
potential
for
zoom
bombing
or
people
to
sort
of
jump
into
our
meetings
and
disrupt
them,
which
is
why
it's
generally
recommended
that
you
not
sort
of
just
have
a
link
to
your
zoom
meeting.
C
B
C
A
A
I
will
flag
that
so
on
that
page,
let's
see
when,
when
I
look
at
news
and
announcements
and
then
go
to
click
on
see
full
meeting
schedule
and
other
resources,
it
takes
me
to
the
resources,
support,
slash
resources,
page
and
under
community
meetings.
The
link
is
there
the
the
zoom
link.
So
if
you
it's
not
on
this
one,
but
if
you
go
to
backdropcms.org
support
resources
or
go
to
the
resources
page
there,
the
zoom
link
the
bitly
link
for
it
is
down.
If
you
go
all
the
way
down
to
community
meetings.
C
Well,
to
be
absolutely
clear:
sarvashri,
the
meetings
are
open
to
the
public,
but
the
point
is
not
to
overly
publicize
the
link
so
that
people
who
are
just
looking
to
be
disruptive
can
pop
up
okay,
and
so
one
of
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
people
do
is
they
change
their
link
every
meeting
and
then
distribute
it
to
avoid
that,
we
don't
want
to
do
that.
That
makes
it
too
hard.
C
D
C
That's
what
I
usually
do
just
to
cut
and
paste
it
is.
I
just
go
back
through
the
through
tulip
and
find
it
jack
is
suggesting
that
maybe
we
don't
even
want
it
here,
and
I
suggested
that
as
well,
I'm
kind
of
on
the
fence,
because
this
is
a
little
bit
hard
to
find
it's
not
like
posting
it
on
social
media.
But
I
don't
know.
C
Yes,
I
mean
that
yeah.
Yes,
we
can
definitely
invite
specific
people
to
come
to
meetings
and
we
have
on
occasion
done
that.
But
it's
not
something
we
we're
normally,
I
would
say
we're
not
normally
organized
enough
to
do.
Our
agenda
has
been
kind
of
fluid
and
it
only
makes
sense
to
do
that.
C
If
we
have
kind
of
a
set
agenda
item
that
we
know
we're
going
to
talk
about,
then
we
can
invite
specific
people,
and
I
am
open
to
doing
a
little
bit
more
of
that
to
like
planning
a
specific
topic
for
a
specific
meeting
and
then
inviting
people
who
might
be
interested
in
that
specific
topic.
A
Since
it's,
I
think,
I
think
it's
a
bit
of
a
free-for-all
in
terms
of
how
we
edit
the
stuff
anyhow,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
since
we
want
to
avoid
since
it's
kind
of
consistently,
we
want
to
avoid
zoom
bombing.
So
we
want
to
limit
where
the
link
is,
I'm
going
to
remove
it
and
replace
it
with
a
check
out
the
zulip
chat
room
to
get
the
link
to
join,
so
that
puts
a
slightly
as
a
bit
of
a
barrier
to
people
who
would
want
to
zoom
bomb.
A
They
could
still
come
to
the
zulip
and
ask
there
but
right
yeah.
That's
what
I'll
do.
C
C
We
need
to
come
up
with
a
good
solution.
I
think
a
better
solution
to
make
it
easier
for
people
to
find
it
and
clearly
this
wasn't
it
surpassed,
because
you
were
already
having
problems
so
yeah.
I
don't
know
what
more
to
say.
A
C
C
But
finding
there
are
some
ongoing
issues
about
this.
Finding
things
in
our
network
of
resources
is
often
confusing
for
new
users,
and
I
believe
that
is
a
problem
that
we
need
to
gradually
work
on
and
figure
out
how
to
make
it
easier
for
newcomers.
The
problem
is,
we
just
have
a
lot
of
stuff
and
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
organize
it.
So
I
don't
know
an
easy
solution.
C
On
the
other
hand,
frequently,
then,
a
host
has
to
be
here
before
people
can
start
meeting
and
we've
also
found
that
to
be
not
ideal,
because
sometimes
people
just
show
up
before
the
meeting
and
they
start
to
talk
and
communicate,
and
we
like
to
encourage
that.
Otherwise,
everybody
just
sits
in
their
waiting
room
and
tell
either
jen
or
hi
or
nature.
C
C
D
This
blog
post
idea
is
this
blog
for
backdrop
generally
or
for
this
outreach
meeting.
This
is
for.
C
Related
so
it
could
be,
these
could
be
tutorials,
they
could
be
outreach
things,
certainly
something
about
documentation
at
some
point.
This
is
just
kind
of
ideas.
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
put
this
or
the
video
project
at
the
point
at
which
we're
actually
working
on
this
video
project.
Sarvashri
we're
actually
have
a
concrete
plan.
We
should
blog
about
it.
D
Okay,
I
did
some
work
on
that
this
past
week,.
C
Okay,
I
will
again
we
have
a
couple
of
these
that
could
be
in
the
queue
pretty
quickly
but
after
the
pmc
meeting
tomorrow,
I'm
going
to
leave
the
black
the
backdrop
one
on
the
agenda
for
now
on
our
regular
newsletter
or
agenda,
we
have
newsletter.
We
had
a
newsletter
go
out
this
week,
that's
at
the
third
in
a
row,
congratulations
and
thank
you
to
peter
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
stop
sharing.
For
now
we
have
yeah.
C
Event,
stuff
is
generic.
We
do
have
well.
We
talked,
I
think
in
our
last
meeting
about
the
next
backdrop.
Live
is
right
now
tentatively
scheduled
for,
I
believe
july
11th.
It's
the
only
event
public
event
we
have
scheduled.
I
would
like
to
get
some
virtual
user
groups
scheduled
as
well,
but
for
backdrop
live.
C
B
Fortunately,
I
think
go
ahead.
I
posted
a
link
to
these
these
events
that
are
happening.
One
of
them
that
drew
my
attention.
It
doesn't
seem
to
have
any
subscription
or
fee
tied
to
it
is
the
cms
africa
developers
for
africa.
B
B
Other
cms's
are
welcome
I'll
post
a
link
again
in
the
in
the
outreach
thing
on
julie.
B
So
yeah
I
was
thinking
that
we're
in
the
same
geographical
latitude
as
europe,
so
it
might
be
more
convenient
for
people
from
europe
to
sort
of
like
do
something
it
won't
affect
them
like
they
won't
be
during
the
night.
You
know
it
would
be
convenient
time-wise.
B
C
B
Yeah
and
my
motivation,
my
other
motivation,
is
besides
the
the
generic
sort
of
like
outreach
motivation
is
that
we
don't
seem
to
have
any
members
in
our
community
from
africa
or
that
I
know
of
so
it
would
be
good
to
reach
out
to
that
group
as
well.
C
We
do
have
one
or
two
people
who
sort
of
pop
up
that
I
have
interacted
with
on
twitter
about
backdrop,
and
I
wasn't
aware
yeah
well,
I
don't
think
they've
ever
made
any
of
our
meetings.
They
were.
They
did
register
for
and
tried
to
attend.
The
first
backdrop
live,
but
I
have
a
hunch.
They
might
have
had
technical
issues,
so
there
is
at
least
one
guy
down
in.
I
think
zambia,
who
is
you
know,
but
marginally
or
it
has
been
involved
a
little
bit,
and
I
forget
the
name.
B
C
D
Well
represented,
so
I
have
an
idea.
I
just
did
a
search
for
choosing
a
cms
and
there's
lots
of
blog
posts
and
videos.
People
have
made
different
things
there,
for
which
probably
they
have
comments
open
and
we
can
go
and
post
comments
to
all
of
those
places
where
people
are
looking
at
choosing
a
cms
and
direct
them
to
come
to
the
backdrop
page
and
check
it
out.
B
Sure
yeah,
I
think
that
matthias
and
others
sorry
are
already
doing
something
like
that
like
they
they
they
did
a
more
specific
search
as
in
drupal
7,
alternatives
or
drupal
alternatives,
and
then
they
started.
You
know
going
to
sites
that
do
comparison
between
cms
or
any
other
software
and
they
added
a
sort
of
like
an
entry
for
backdrop,
and
then
people
went
and
added
some
comments
right.
So
yeah.
D
I
think
that
could
be
very
effective
for,
in
general,
choosing
a
cms
generally
they're
they're
going
to
be
open
for
ideas,
yeah
and
so
posting
on
that.
So
maybe
mathias
could
could
do
that
search
and
do
outreach
that
way
exactly.
B
A
Yeah
I
wanted
to
get
back
to
the
the
backdrop
live
thing
that
tim
mentioned,
because
so
I
know
other
smaller
events
might
happen
in
the
meantime.
But
just
to
save
I
mean
tim,
you
did
so
much
of
the
work
on
this
last
backdrop
live.
I
know
some
other
folks
participated
too,
but
you
and
jen
did
like
the
vast
majority
of
it.
So
since
we've
got
it
scheduled,
I
you
know
starting
the
planning
of
that
at
least
like
knowing
who's
going
to
hold
what
like
figuring
out,
what
the
next
steps
are.
A
What
roles
are
needed?
Who's
going
to
fill
them
seems
like
we're
going
to
want
to
do
that
like.
If
not
at
this
outreach
meeting
like
by
the
next
outreach
meeting,
I
would
suggest
starting
a
plan
just
so
that
it
doesn't
get
down
to
like
one
or
two
months.
You
know,
and
we
have
to
figure
it
all
out.
Then
that'll
also
help
us
recruit
other
folks
to
divide
up
the
roles.
So,
like
you
don't
have
to
do
everything
right.
You
can
yeah.
C
Yeah,
I
think
to
me,
like
our
first
thing,
is
to
decide
what
are
the
different
tasks
that
we
can.
We
could
sort
of
divide
up
to
me.
One
of
our
biggest
needs
would,
I
feel,
like
one
of
our
biggest
needs
is
to
get
people
that
to
sort
of
take
responsibility
for
other
regions
for
doing
outreach
and
and
programming
in
it
like
the
european
or
asian
time
zones,
it's
hard
for
yeah
for
one
person
to
do
that,
and
if
we
don't
have
people
actively
engaged
in
europe
and
say
australia,
it's
hard
to
schedule
stuff.
C
B
Yeah,
but
I
would
also
like
to
add
that,
with
its
live
with
its
life,
that
we
do,
we
have
more
material
that
that
can
be
reused
or
we
should
be
documenting
things.
B
We
do
have
a
dedicated
repo
and
what
we
used
to
do
is
with
with
processes
like,
I
think
we
have
a
dedicated
repo
for
procedures
like
when
creating
releases
and
so
on,
but
a
having
a
dedicated
site.
Now
it's
like
a
good
resource
like
we
don't
have
to
recreate
everything
so
yeah
the
more
we
improve
that
the
more
we
add
documentation,
the
easier
it
will
be
for
others
to
to
sort
of
like
jump
in
and
help
in
the
future.
C
Yes,
I
think
we
should
just
plan
on
having
backdrop
live
as
a
standing
item
on
the
agenda,
and
it's
still
the
challenge
we're
going
to
face
is
not
spending
too
much
time
in
every
meeting
on
this
and
again
what
you
know
I
said
before.
I
think
we
could
have
a
separate
meeting
for
this,
but
only
at
the
stage
at
which
we
have
sufficient
people
that
it's
useful,
that
you
know
we
don't
want
to
schedule
an
extra
meeting
if
we
don't
need
to
maybe,
as
we
get
closer
to
the
event
that
will
become
important.
C
C
So
yeah,
let's
keep
this
on
the
agenda.
I
don't
know
if
there's
anything
else
to
take
away
from
today
I
will.
I
will
try
in
preparation
for
next
the
next
outreach
meeting
to
have
a
list
of
my
own
thoughts
on
like
what
the
various
tasks
are,
so
that
we
can
talk
about
them,
and
maybe
people
can
step
up
and
volunteer.
C
Where
did
you
post
this
mirror
board?
There's
a
link
to
it
in
the
agenda.
I
can
I'll
put
a
link
in
zulup
right
now
as
well.
C
C
I
wanted
to
I
want
to
get
to
sarvajri
has
been
doing
some
work
on
this
documentary
or
video
stuff,
so
I
want
to
come
back
to
make
sure
we
have
time
for
that.
The
one
other
thing,
though,
is,
I
think,
regular.
Well
it.
C
It
came
up
in
zulip
over
the
last
two
weeks
that
a
lot
of
our
outreach
is
targeted
at
developers
that
are
active
in
the
community,
and
I
forget
the
name
but
for
mustard
seed.
He
mentioned
that.
C
We
should
be
doing
more
outreach
just
to
users,
and
I
think
our
virtual
user
group
is
probably
one
of
the
strongest
things
that
we
do.
That's
really
just
targeted
at
users.
I
try
to
avoid
like
getting
into
core
conversation
discussions
during
I
mean
we
talk
a
little
bit
about
it,
but
it's
focused
on
how
to
use
backdrop,
and
I
think
it's
a
really
valuable
outreach
tool.
We
have
done
them
sort
of
sporadically.
C
C
Is
there
if
right
now,
I'm
sort
of
like
not
sure
what
the
next
topics
would
be?
If
anybody
has
any
quick
topic
ideas,
things
they'd
like
to
see
in
a
virtual
user
group
tell
me
now.
Otherwise
I
will
make
up
some
go
ahead:
how
to
use
views,
how
to
use
views.
I
that
is
probably
a
great
idea.
It
is
a
great
idea.
It's
not
probably.
It
is
a
great
idea,
I'm
going
to
put
that
down,
and
that
might
be
our
next
one
anything
else
before
we
move
on
to
videos.
C
B
B
C
A
Yeah,
just
continuing
to
make
it
clear
that
folks
don't
have
to
yeah
contribute
to
code
or
documentation,
or
anything
else
like
folks
can
come
to
any
of
these
events,
especially
like
the
user
groups
yeah
and-
and
you
could
just
they
could
just
receive,
receive
knowledge
and
participate.
That
way,
you
know.
B
C
So,
actually,
here's
the
most
immediate
action
item.
I
think
we
could
take
on
that
to
help
that
which
is,
I
already
suggested
in
the
issue,
but
this
seems
like
an
appropriate
time
to
get
some
quick
feedback
which
is
to
change
right
now
we
have
one
we
have
two
primary
zoolop
channels,
backdrop
and
and
the
community
which
the
community
is
supposed
to
be
like
non-backdrop
stuff.
C
C
If
I
came
to
the
zulu
to
ask
questions
about
how
to
use
backdrop-
and
I
saw
all
of
this
internal
organizational
stuff-
I
might
feel
like
I'm
in
the
wrong
place
and
not
want
to
engage
here,
and
so
I
think
that
there's
a
fairly
straightforward
solution
to
that,
which
is
what
they
do
in
the
drupal
slack
or
channels
which
is
there
is
a
channel
or
a
stream
just
for
support
and
we've
avoided.
We
in
the
past.
C
And
and
might
dissuade
them
from,
you
know,
asking
their
basic
support
questions,
so
my
recommendation
is
that
we
have
just
a
basic
support
channel
their
stream
in
zula
and
then
and
then
a
backdrop
I
don't
know.
I
I
think
I
suggested
a
name
for
well,
but
I
don't
know
if
it's
just
the
background
purpose.
B
So
would
you
say
that
we
keep
backdrop
just
for
core
things
or
contribute
things
specific,
and
then
we
have
the
community
chat
for
things
not
directly
related
to
backdrop,
and
then
we
have
a
dedicated
support
channel,
which
is
hey.
I'm
trying
to
do
this.
I
can't
get
this
to
work
and
so
on.
C
A
C
B
C
B
C
A
D
B
B
B
D
A
backdrop
has
a
a
hashtag
in
front
of
it
hash
backdrop.
The
other
ones,
don't
have
a
hash.
A
The
backdrop
is
the
stream
is,
and
the
stream
is
like
a
container
for
topics.
So
all
the
ones
that
don't
have
the
hashtag
are
all
topics
within
the
stream.
So
the
backdrop
stream
includes
topics
like
right
now:
outreach
weekly
meetings,
translating
config
bug
leaflet.
Those
are
all
topics
in
the
backdrop
stream,
so
we're
talking
about
creating
another
stream
called
support
where
people
would
put
support
topics
with
this
backdrop
drop
one.
Frankly,
we
could
leave
it.
D
Two
things
need
to
be
broken
out
of
it,
not
just
support,
but
core
contributions
is
what
right
now
is
filling
up
that
that
topic
called
backdrop.
C
A
B
It's
just
topics
yeah
like
over
over
the
course
of
time,
so
this
is
I'm
not
sure
if
I'm
sharing
this
for
the
benefit
of
people
watching
the
video
and
for
savagery.
This
is
what
it
looks
like
when
you
dig
into
a
string
which
is
backdrop
and
then
there's
a
link
that
says
all
stream,
and
then
you
see
that
I
I'm
subscribed
to
infrastructure
community
chat,
so
there's
more
streams
here
and
each
stream
can
have
a
topic
in
it.
B
So
all
topics
are
permanent.
What
happens
is
that
when
we
started
the
using
zulip
as
a
platform,
we
needed
to
have
a
string
and
backdrop
was
the
first
stream
that
we
ever
created
and
then,
as
more
topics
gathered,
then
we
said
hey.
We
need
a
separate
thing
for
that.
We
created
different
streams
which
needed
to
have
you
know
sub-topics
in
them.
So
this
is
how
it
evolved.
Okay,
so
so,
in
other
words,
what
I'm
saying
is
backdrop
is
the
default
thing
that
we
just
named
backdrop.
This
is
yeah.
A
Yeah
and
to
not
change
too
much
on
people
too
fast,
I
like
the
idea
like
it
seems
like
a
support
stream
really
is
a
is
a
need
and
making
that
the
default
place
for
folks
does
seem
really
appropriate
and
maybe
leaving
the
changes
at
that
like
split
that
out
and
then
take
some
time
to
see
how
that
works,
and
then
we
can
figure
out
what
else
to
do
with
the
main
backdrop
stream.
If
anything,.
B
C
Here,
yeah
and
and
let's
get
back
to
some
sorry-
we
can
nate's
not
here
yet
so
I'm
guessing
we'll
have
but
we'll
be
able
to
go
over
a
few
minutes.
If
we
need
to
sarvajri
has
been
leading
an
effort
to
to
do
some
work
with
videos,
and
we
had
a
great
discussion
last
week
and
sir
ashrae.
Do
you
want
to
update
people.
D
Yeah,
what
we're
looking
at
is
tutorials
that
help
new
people
learn
backdrop
quickly
and
easily,
and
most
of
the
focus
has
been
on
moving
people
from
drupal
7
to
backdrop
and
those
people
all
have
deep
developing
experience.
D
They're,
not
new
users,
they're,
not
beginners,
and
so,
if
anybody
wants
to
use
backdrop
and
they're
not
experienced
with
drupal,
then
they're
out
of
luck,
because
there's
a
lot
of
correlations
between
drupal
and
backdrop
that
seem
to
be
self-explanatory
to
drupal
users,
but
to
new
users.
They
don't
make
sense.
So
I
started
going
through.
We
was
looking
at
how
videos
were
made
for
drupal
and
look
and
looked
at
how
drupal
had
created
a
demonstration
site
to
teach
people
how
to
use
drupal.
D
D
It
needs
to
be
simplified,
a
lot
and
the
videos.
I
looked
at
the
strength
and
weakness
of
the
of
the
videos
because
I
have
a
lot
of
experience
with
audio
and
video
generally
studying
it
and
so
forth,
and
they
have
two
people
doing
the
videos
that
I've
seen
so
far
amber
and
ed
I
mean
and
joe
and
I've
noticed
two
things
about
their
video
quality.
D
You
don't
notice
it
until
you
watch
a
video
that
doesn't
have
that
now.
Amber's
videos
don't
have
those
reflections,
but
she's
too
close
to
the
mic
and
what's
happening
with
her,
is
she's
getting
a
lot
of
plosives.
That
is
the
ps
and
the
b's
explode
into
the
microphone
and
create
a
shock
wave
and,
and
then
her
voice
is
very
sort
of
mellowed
in
the
sense
that
it's
almost
like
she's
talking
holding
her
nose,
and
so
there
aren't
enough
high
frequencies.
The
equalization
on
her
videos
is
wrong.
D
So
when
you,
when
you
get
used
to
listening
to
really
good
videos,
professional
videos,
two
things
that
they
do
is
they
have.
You
speak
within
12
inches
of
the
mic
and
and
not
closer
than
6
inches,
basically
12
inches
from
a
mic,
and
you
have
to
do
equalization
on
that
person,
because
their
voice
may
be
a
little
different
than
other
people.
So
you
can't
use
the
same
equalization
and
you
need
to
play
it
back
on
a
good
system.
D
D
It's
an
expensive
microphone.
It
will
pick
up
everything
from
a
half
mile
away
trucks
driving
down
the
road
with
low
frequencies
under
30
cycles.
A
second
it'll
pick
all
that
up.
I
can't
use
that
mic
unless
I
run
it
through
some
kind
of
filter
so
that
I'm
filtering
out
all
of
the
lows.
So
I'm
not
getting
the
trucks
driving
down
the
road.
D
So
when
you
learn
a
little
bit
about
audio,
it
makes
a
huge,
huge
difference
in
the
quality
of
making
a
video,
and
so
what
people
usually
do
for
making
these
tutorial
videos.
They
might
just
do
a
tutorial
for
themselves
and
record
it
off.
The
cuff
see
see
what
kind
of
things
they're
covering
and
then
note
what
they're.
D
What
they're
missing
then
create
an
outline
of
what
they
want
to
cover
in
the
real
video
and
have
that
outland
line
handy
to
the
site
and
then
record
the
audio
for
that
outline,
and
then,
after
you
have
the
audio,
then
you
can
come
back
paste
that
audio
into
a
video
program
and
then
start
grabbing
screenshots
or
keynote.
You
know
like
joe
is
doing.
You
know
turn
the
cube.
D
You
know
basically
a
keynote
switch
and
and
then
you
get
a
really
good
audio
with
really
good
video
by
by
piecing
it
together,
one
on
top
of
the
other,
and
that
is
the
best
way
to
create
videos.
D
So
that's
what
I've
discovered
so
far,
and
so
those
of
you
who
want
to
experiment
with
this
just
experiment
with
creating
an
audio
and
seeing
what
you
have
to
do
to
make
that
audio
good.
If
you
use
something
like
you're
using
a
mac,
you
can
use
garageband
to
create
your
audio
and
garageband
has
all
kinds
of
filters.
A
low
cut
filter
that
you
can
put
in
there.
Also,
you
can
have
it
silence
out
any
background
noise
by
putting
a
threshold
for
where
you
want
it
to
drop
into
pure
silence.
D
C
Can
I
ask
you
a
question,
sir?
You
so
you've
you've
said
that
in
their
their
doc,
so
quickly
jack.
I
think
gregory
was
here
last
week
so
jack.
If
you
weren't,
we
had
an
informal
discussion,
it
was
outside
our
regular
meetings
and
we
talked
about
sarvajri's
been
talking
about
creating
a
video
series
to
really
help
build
a
website,
and
we
talked
about
the
whole
drupal
8
user
guide
that
was
created
by
the
drupal.
C
It's
me
folks,
and
it
is
a
combination
of
text
and
video
and
it
is
all
open
source-
and
I
had
thought
about
this
before,
but
we
spent
some
time
talking
about
last
week,
whether
or
not
one
chant
you
know
well,
I
started
thinking
about
whether
or
not
we
couldn't
just
fork
their
their
user
guide
and
start
to
edit
it.
To
be
backdrop
specific,
there's
a
little
bit
of
like
would
we
effect,
I
mean
first
of
all,
they're
they're,
all
of
their
words
say
this
is
open
source.
C
You
can
do
anything
you
want
with
it,
even
if
it's
commercial,
so
it
is
intended
for
people
to
to
do
what
they
want
with.
As
long
as
people
give
credit.
C
I
feel
like
we
know
the
folks
involved
in
that
project
and
they
would
be
supportive,
so
but
one
isn't
a
good
idea
into
so
I
started
to
look
a
little
bit
like
how
easy
technically
how
we
would
fork
it
and
they
are
using
a
tool-
and
I
don't
remember
the
name
off
top
of
it,
but
it's
a
fairly
they're
they're
doing
it
as
in
a
special
markup
language.
C
It's
not
regular
markdown,
it's
a
special
language
and
then
they
run
it
through
a
compiler
which
creates
html
pdf
ebook,
all
these
different
formats,
which
is
really
nice,
except
that
in
order
to
work
on
this,
you
need
one.
You
need
to
write
in
this
markdown
or
this
special
markup
language
and
two.
You
know
in
order
to
compile
it,
you
need
well,
but
everyone
wouldn't
have
to
do
that.
C
Most
editors
could
just
use
the
the
text,
but
then,
but
but
anybody
who,
in
order
to
use
it
we'd,
have
to
run
it
through
this
compiler,
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
worth
that,
but
my
question
for
sarvashri
is
you
said
that
it's
their
structure
was
a
little
bit
confusing
to
you.
C
A
One
one
comment
before
because
I
have
to
run
the
main
flag
for
me
here
would
be
capacity
to
actually
do
something
like
this.
Like
so
you
know,
tim
you've
been
holding
down
so
much
of
the
outreach
stuff
but
you're
also
on
pmc
and
pmc
we're
behind
on
ours.
You
know
so
it's
like
a
great
plan,
but
it
sounds
like
something
that
would
have
to
be
like
someone
else
would
need
to
be
the
point
person.
A
That's
that's
my
main
flag
for
that,
but
but
because
I
know
drupal
is
me
started
at
lullabot
and
they
had
all
sorts
of
time
and
money.
Oh
hello,
me
speaking
a
little
bit.
G
A
G
C
So
savagery,
you
may
not
know
this,
but
nate
does
drupalize
me
folks,
amber
and
and
joe
that
is
sort
of
a
sister
company
to
the
company
that
nate
works.
For
so
he
knows
them
very
well
and
and
was
involved
early
on
in
making
similar
videos
like
that.
C
I'm
I'm
very
much
aware
of
that
capacity
problem,
but
I've
been
trying
to
facilitate
sarvashri's
energy
and
enthusiasm
for
this
project
and
help
to
you
know
provide
some
feedback,
and
I
think
this
is
one
way
that
this
could
go.
But,
yes,
we
need
people
and
people
time
to
work
on
it.
D
B
The
content
yeah,
I
don't
know
how
things
work.
The
the
only
thing
that
I
want
to
comment-
and
I
pointed
that
out
before-
is
that
we
don't
have
people
and
raising
barriers,
as
in
you
know
how
professional
the
videos
should
be,
how
the
equipment
should
be
used.
B
But
then
I
don't
have
a
dedicated
room
at
the
house
where
I'm
at
and
as
salvatore
mentioned
before,
there
might
be
a
truck
passing
by
which,
of
course
will
come
into
the
audio.
And
unfortunately
I
don't
have
the
the
the
equipment
that
would
filter
that
out
or
the
knowledge
to
do
it.
So
this
raises
barriers
for
me,
so
I
wouldn't.
I
would
say
that,
yes,
that's
the
goal
and
we
can
document
that
somewhere
that
it
should
be
4k.
B
D
You
do
have
the
equipment
if
you
have
a
macintosh,
you
have
garage
band
and
you,
if
you
have
a
headset
mic,
you
can
basically
nobody
would
hear
anything
else.
You
can
set
the
threshold
to
cut
out
anything
except
your
voice
and
it
would
sound
so
clean
and
nobody
would
know
the
difference
cool,
that's
good.
We
have
to
end
this
meeting.