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A
B
We
are
live
today
is
thursday
february
11th,
and
this
is
our
weekly
development
check-in
for
backdrop
cms
before
we
get
into
the
agenda
we'll
go
around
and
do
some
quick
and
just
introductions,
you'll
have
to
say
what
your
name
is
and
where
you're
from,
if
you
want
to
share
something
else
with
us,
you
definitely
can.
My
name
is
jen
lampton.
I
am
joining
from
oakland
california
and
I
have
so
much
bad
drop.
Going
work
work
going
on
right
now
it
is
so
exciting.
It
makes
me
very
happy.
B
So
thank
you
backdrop,
and
I
will
turn
it
over
to
me.
C
Hello,
I'm
nate
lampton,
also
from
oakland,
california,
and
I
have
been
able
to
do
a
lot
of
backdrop
work
recently,
but
I'm
excited
to
see
you
know
during
these
weekly
meetings
what's
been
happening
so
we'll
be
running
through
the
normal
product
updates.
Today,
let's
go
to
jason.
C
D
A
Tim
erickson
from
deerwood
minnesota,
where
it's
minus
20
degrees
celsius
and
here
to
yeah,
get
caught
up
on.
What's
going
on
in
court,
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
activity
in
the
contribution
queue
and
looking
forward
to
it,
olaf.
E
Are
you
here?
Yes,
I'm
here,
I'm
olaf
from
hamburg
in
germany.
I
have
also
minus
degrees
here
and
a
bit
of
snow
and
I'm
yeah
checking
in
after
a
longer
time
to
hear.
What's
going
on
next
one
w
pen.
F
Peter
from
australia
just
had
a
baby
last
week,
so
I'm
taking
a
bit
of
a
break
from
backdrop
stuff,
but
apparently
at
the
previous
playground,
with
my
daughter
waiting
for
my
car
to
get
serviced
but
I'll.
Just
hang
out
here
and
listen
to
what's
happening
in
backdrop.
What
I'm
missing
out
on
so
yeah
hasn't
gone
just.
G
B
Since
last
week,
we've
had
two
new
applications
for
people
to
join
backdrop.
Can
trip
that's
really
exciting.
Let's
see
j
sitter,
whose
name,
I
don't
know,
reported
the
jason
webb.
No,
this
isn't
even
important
wrote
a
new
module
called
jason
webb
tokens
specifically
for
backdrop,
which
is
pretty
cool
and
wants
to
contribute
it
and
that
module
looks
like
it's
almost
ready.
It
needs
a
maintainer
section
in
the
readme
file
and
he'll
get
an
application.
B
So
that's
really
great
and
large
designs,
justin
who's,
usually
here
for
our
weekly
meeting,
all
supported
a
module.
Last
week
it's
been
an
application
and
has
been
invited,
so
we've
got
two
new
people
this
week,
which
is
really
exciting
in
terms
of
releases.
This
week
last
week,
tim
asked
me
to
look
at
the
biblio
module.
I
made
a
first
release.
B
It
doesn't
include
an
upgrade
path
or
any
of
the
sub
modules,
but
there
is
an
issue
in
the
queue
asking
which,
if
any
of
the
sub
modules
are
needed,
I
didn't
need
any
of
them
for
my
project,
but
I
expect
there
are
plenty
of
other
people
who
do
so.
That
will
be
what
I
will
be
working
on
next,
but
there
is
a
1.0.0
release
out
that
will
work
without
breaking
anything
thanks
to
the
feedback
from
people
in
the
queue.
So
that's
good.
B
B
Dr
matt
said:
he'd
already
done
that
testing
before
asking
for
the
information,
and
so
I
think
it's
ready
for
a
code
review
and
potentially
merged.
So
I
think
I
don't
know
if
na
I
think,
you're
the
maintainer
from
project
module.
I
might
also
be
a
maintainer
for
it.
It'll
be
good
to
get
your
eyes
on
it
either
way.
C
Yeah,
this
isn't
even
project
module.
This
is
the
custom
code,
that's
in
the
packager
that
just
takes
the
values
from
the
dot
info
file
and
looks
like
it
uses
an
existing
field
on
backdrop,
cms.org
to
populate
the
values,
correct.
C
And
it
looks
like
so
right
now
we
don't
allow
anyone
like
having
an
account
on
backdrop.
Cms.Org
gives
you
pretty
limited
capabilities
like
you
can
create
blog
posts,
that's
the
primary
thing
you
can
do
with
an
account,
but
we
don't
allow
normal
users
to
edit
projects
on
backdropcms.org.
C
So
this
is
a
way
of
making
it
so
that
you
can
effectively
edit
the
project
node
to
do
things
like
assign
colors
to
a
theme
without
doing
anything
on
backdrop,
cms.org
you'll
create
new
values
in
your
info
files
and
when
you
make
a
new
release
of
your
theme
or
your
module,
it
will
update
associated
fields
on
the
node
on
backdrop,
cms.org
and
then
in
theory.
We
can
start
using
those
things
to
start
filtering
and
sorting
things
when
you
do
a
modular
theme
search.
C
So
it
looks
like
this
isn't
really
independently
testable
any
further
and.
B
Think
double
one's
been
testing
with
ubercart
module,
but
I
don't
know
I'm
now
not
sure.
If
this
is
that
same
issue,
I'm
thinking
of
but
yeah,
we
should
figure
out
what's
good
to
dust
with,
but.
C
Yeah,
I
guess
maybe
also
documenting
a
little
bit
further,
like
I'm
not
quite
sure
where
the
documentation
would
go
for
these
additional
properties
that
we
have
looks
like
he
supports
colors
on
themes
and
maintainers
on
modules,
which
both
seem
like
really
helpful.
Things.
B
So
I
also
just
in
case
anyone's
wondering
about
this.
I
sent
an
email
to
our
lawyers
at
sf
conservancy,
asking
about
this
maintainers
thing
because
there's
another
issue
where
we
wanted
to
put
a
list
of
all
the
projects.
People
are
involved
with
on
their
user
profile
on
backdrop
cms.org
and
the
I
was
really
worried
that,
because
backdrop
is
like
the
source
of
information
on
backdrop,
we
could
be
held
liable
for
information
people
put
on
their
profile
page.
B
That
is
not
correct,
so
like
if
I
logged
in
and
put
like
nate's
github
name
in
my
user
profile,
I
would
get
the
work
of
all
all
of
his
work
on
backdrop
showing
up
on
my
user
profile.
So
it
would
be
a
really
easy
way
for
somebody
to
like
fake
a
profile
page
saying
they
have
a
lot
of
work
with
backdrop
to
send
it
to
a
potential
employer,
get
hired,
not
be
qualified
and
the
player
would
say.
Well,
I
looked
at
your
profile
page,
but
it's
not
real
information.
B
It's
all
user
submitted
information
and
we
got
a
reply
back
from
a
lawyer
saying
as
long
as
you
put
a
disclaimer
above
that
list.
That's
like
all
information
on
this
page
is
provided
by
the
person
who
created
the
page.
I
forget
the
legalese
or
whatever,
then
it
sort
of
gives
us
an
out.
In
that
case,
it's
like
they,
you
know,
should
have
read
that
paragraph
and
it
puts
us
in
the
clear.
This
is
only
related
in
the
sense
that
whoever
is
maintaining
a
module
can
put
a
github
username
in
here.
B
That
is
not
their
own.
I
don't
know
that
that
is
very
likely
because
in
this
case,
the
person
who's,
maintaining
the
module
is
on
github
using
their
user
account.
So
I
don't
know
what
the
incentive
would
be
to
not
do
it,
but
it
does
open
up
another
potential
risk
there,
where
we
could
be
like
accidentally
granting
one
person
access
to
project
projects
that
if
they
don't
I
mean
right
now
we
aren't
granting
people
access
to
modules
based
on
their
github
username,
but
we
did
talk
about
doing
that
in
the
future.
So
just
could
we.
G
B
So
on
the
module,
maintainer
fields,
one
person
can
maintain
a
bunch
of
different
modules
that
one
can't
be
unique
on
the
user
profile
page
it
can
be,
which
might
be
another
good
place
to
do
it.
We
also
have
long
plans
to
implement
oauth
with
github,
which
would
resolve
all
of
this.
So
I
think
most
of
the
concerns
here
are
sort
of
temporary.
Anyway,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we
didn't
fall
into
label.
Legal
loopholes
should
be.
C
C
Okay,
next
up,
we
have
the
doc
site
too.
That
also
has
been
receiving
a
lot
of
changes.
I
haven't
been
tracking
this
too
closely.
We
have
a
new
website
docs.backdropcms.org,
which
is
a
renamed
version
of
the
api
site.
Jen.
You
look
like
you're,
ready
to
say
some
things
about
it,
so
I'll
pass
it
to
you.
B
I'm
just
excited
because
panda
and
I
have
been
strategizing
on
an
issue
about
how
to
import
all
of
the
content
from
the
front
current
factor
of
cms.org
site
that
we
want
moved
into
the
new
documentation
section
and
it
sounds
like
we
have
a
pretty
good
start
on
that.
B
So
as
long
as
peter
continues
to
tell
me
what
he
wants,
I'm
happy
to
set
up
a
feeds,
integration
that
will
pull
over
content,
maybe
once
every
12
hours
or
24
hours,
or
something
like
that,
so
that
if
people
are
making
changes
to
the
documentation
on
the
website
before
we're
ready
to
go
with
the
new
documentation
on
the
doc
site,
we'll
get
all
of
those
updates.
So
we
won't
have
to
worry
about
getting
out
of
sync.
C
And
I'd
like
to
hear,
although
I
think
I
know
that
is
the
plan
to
move
the
user
documentation
over
here
as
well
like
how
to
use
backdrop,
even
if
you're
not
a
developer,.
B
B
So
a
little
back
and
forth
on
that,
but
it
sounds
like
everybody
wants
to
try
something
new
and
so,
even
though,
like
we
deliberately
decided
initially
to
put
it
on
the
main
website,
if
we
don't
think
that's
working,
I'm
totally
fine
to
try
something
new,
just
to
make
sure
everybody
knew
that,
like
originally,
that
was
a
specific
content,
architecture
decision
or
whatever
content
strategy
decision,
but
maybe
it's
not
working.
So
let's
try
something
else
for
a
while
see
how
that
goes.
H
One
quick
question:
I
know:
there's
an
issue
out
there
for
kind
of
an
olaf
to
be
able
to
log
into
one
site
and
it
passes
across
all
the
sites.
I
know
that
from
my
understanding
it
was
turned
on
something
didn't
work
right,
so
it
was
shut
off.
I
just
I
guess
I'd
like
to
kind
of
bring
some
attention
back
to
that.
That
is,
you
know,
we've
got
forms,
we've
got
the
api.
We've
got,
the
docs
got
the
main
website.
B
Yeah
and
it's
going
to
get
worse
with
the
event
site
yeah,
so
there
is
a
module
that
we
imported
from
drupal
called
bakery
because
it
makes
cookies
that
would
allow
people
to
log
into
any
other
site
using
their
credentials
from
backdrop
cms.org,
and
I
originally
ported
it
and
thought
it
was
working
and
put
it
everywhere
and
it
turns
out
that
it
didn't
not
work,
but
it
was
like
not
working,
sometimes,
which
made
it
really
hard
to
diagnose
the
problem,
and
so
we
just
had
to
turn
off
until
we
could
figure
out
exactly
what
the
problem
was
and
we
haven't
gone
back
to
it.
B
So
maybe
it
would
be
good
to
turn
it
on
on
some
site
that
not
very
many
people
are
using
and
use
that
for
debugging
rather
than
turning
it
on
on.
I
don't
know
something
like
the
forum
that
people
are
using
all
the
time
and
see
if
we
can
sort
out
any
issues
in
a
low
risk
environment.
I
would
be
happy
to
do
that
so
phil.
If
you
want
to
maybe
ping
me
and
sue
lip,
I
would
love
it
if
you
would
help
me
with
testing
on
that.
H
The
other,
the
other
thought
is,
maybe
you
know
the
the
log
in
with
google
connect
with
facebook.
You
know
these.
These
different
account
deals
that
you
can
you're
starting
to
see
them
pop
up
all
over
the
place.
I
don't
know
if
maybe
that
would
be
a
good
kind
of
a
short
term
solution.
It's
not
going
to
cover
all
of
the
user
base,
but
something
of
that
nature
might
kind
of
help
alleviate
some
of
this
too.
So
it's
a
thought.
C
C
If
we
were
to
take
a
fresh
start
with
this,
I
I
think
that
using
bakery,
which
is
what
drupal.org
is
still
using,
as
I
understand
it,
bakery
was
at
the
time
trying
to
solve
a
problem
that
really
hadn't
been
fully
solved.
Yet
now
the
concept
of
single
sign-on
across
multiple
sites
and
even
multiple
domains,
which
bakery
right
now
is
dependent
on
everything
living
under
one
domain,
because
it
shares
cookies
that
are
at
the
root
level
of
the
domain,
and
then
it
works
across
subdomains.
C
That's
the
way
that
it
functions,
but
this
problem
has
been
solved
in
an
industry
level
through
saml
and
like
oauth
2..
I
think
those
are
the
technologies
that
are
used
and
like
github
facebook,
google,
all
of
these
single
sign-on
providers
all
now
use
the
same
standard
for
authentication
and
login
that
handles
logging
in
across
multiple
domains,
where
there's
only
one
single
place.
That
does
the
sign
in
and
I'd
like
to.
B
We
should,
if
we're
going
to
do,
that,
we
should
write
down
a
list
of
requirements
because
the
last
time
I
checked,
none
of
them
worked
with
using
our
user
table
as
the
definitive
data
source,
and
so,
if
we're
gonna
move
to
them,
we
might
end
up
having
having
a
list
of
other
things
that
we
have
to
do
to
like.
Do
some
kind
of
like
continuous
integration
between
our
user
system
and
whatever
we're
using
for
single
sign-on.
C
Right,
yes,
yeah
sample
and
oauth
2
is
the
protocol
for
the
way
that
the
websites
talk
to
each
other
like
what
how
you
set
up
the
user
store
and
where
the
account
list
is
stored.
You
can
do
that
in
a
variety
of
different
ways,
one
of
which
is
potentially
making
a
backdrop
site
into
the
single
sign-on
provider
and
using
the
user
table.
Other
options
are
using
like
dedicated
pieces
of
software
that
just
handle
user
accounts.
C
Yeah
or
using
a
service
that
would
hold
on
to
our
user
accounts
for
us
or
something
like
that,
there's
lots
of
different
options.
So
it
could
be
the
backdrop
cms.org.
The
flagship
website
becomes
the
source
of
truth
for
user
accounts.
It's
kind
of
the
way
we're
rolling
right
now
or
we
can
make
it
a
separate
site
that
either
does
or
does
not
run
backdrop
that
just
holds
all
the
user
accounts
as
its
job
either
way.
We're
gonna.
B
Have
to
write
some
new
integration
piece-
and
I
checked
a
couple
months
ago
on
it
and
all
the
stuff
that
existed
for
drupal
was
only
for
triple
8
and
drupal
9..
So
it
might
be
so
new
that
no
one
built
it
for
triple
7.
C
Yet
yeah
so
yeah
that
it
is
a
big
problem,
so
getting
that
sorted
out
and
phil
you're,
absolutely
right
that
it's
a
hassle,
creating
new
account
on
every
single
site,
and
it
would
be
nice
if
we
do
have
a
single
sign-on
location,
then
that
single
sign-on
location
could
also
provide
different
ways
of
authenticating.
So
if
you
wanted
to
authenticate
with
github
into
the
single
sign-on
site,
then
you
would
authenticate
there
and
then
from
that
site
it
would
authenticate
the
other
sites.
C
So
I
like
that
idea,
because
then
we
only
need
to
improve
our
login
workflow
in
one
place
and
as
opposed
to
every
single
site.
We
don't
need
to
have
sign
in
with
github
on
six
different
sites.
We
have
signed
into
the
main
site
and
then
that
signs
you
into
all
of
the
other
ones,
yeah.
H
B
C
Okay:
let's
go
into
the
project
report
of
which
yeah
there's
there's
some
movement
happening
here.
118.2
118.2
is
the
next
bug
fix
release
that
we
will
be
releasing
as
we
accrue
enough
fixes
to
warrant
a
release.
Let
me
actually
pull
this
up
before
I
get
into
the
individual
issues.
C
Okay,
there
hasn't
been
anything
merged
in
or
closed
into,
118.2,
yet
so
far,
but
items
that
we've
got
here
to
prioritize
throw
a
warning
if
the
max
input
vars
variable,
is
not
properly
set
or
not
set
high
enough
issue.
3824.,
I
checked
on
this
looks
like
jen.
You
did
a
re-roll
on
this.
C
It's
ready
for
review
again,
and
it
is
just
sitting
there
waiting
for
another
set
of
eyeballs
yeah.
C
This
one
is
rtbc,
actually
was
ready
for
118.1,
but
we
pushed
it
off
because
it
makes
some
ui
changes
so
we're
holding
off
on
or
we
had
been
holding
off
on
that,
but
we
probably
are
good
to
merge
it
now.
C
C
G
That's
kind
of
it,
my
php
environment,
on
my
laptop,
is
not
working
at
the
moment.
So
that's
why
I
haven't
fixed
those.
Yet
I
need
to
fix
my
laptop.
C
First
yeah
these
sorts
of
changes.
I
wouldn't
be
opposed
to
merging
what
we
have
so
far
and
then
continuing
to
iterate
on
it,
because
definitely
for
people
if
they
want
to
help
contribute
to
this
issue.
I
think
they'll
get
further
if
backdrop
is
installable
and
actually
functions
a
little
bit
and
has
like
several
issues
rather
than
it's
just
like
completely
not
working
at
all
right
kind
of
where
it
is
right
now.
G
Cool
yeah
and
I
I
as
far
as
I'm
aware,
there
are
no
regressions
because
the
tests
pass
100
on
the
older
versions,
but
we
can't
really
run
the
test
on
php
8.
C
C
Okay,
well
great
work,
nonetheless,
on
moving
that
forward,
and
we
really
appreciate
it
last
one
that
we
have
here
is
a
little
bit
of
a
complicated
issue,
but
the
fix
is
pretty
straightforward.
The
menu
active
trail
gets
confused
when
the
same
path
is
used
in
menu
links
for
multiple
languages
issue
4798..
C
I
think
this
was
almost
a
one-line
fix.
If
I'm
thinking
about
it,
the
right
one,
however
yeah
pretty
much
one
line
fix
the
steps
to
reproduce
it
are
kind
of
complicated
and
it's
something
that
could
easily
regress,
and
so
the
hold
up
on
this
one
is
that
it
needs
test
coverage.
B
So
I'd
be
open
to
other
people
recommending
other
ways
we
might
be
able
to
test
this.
B
When
you
use
the
same
path
in
two
menus
and
the
only
way
I
could
get
a
path,
one
path
with
two
menu
items
was
to
do
a
contextual
filter
on
a
view
that
was
automatically
determined
by
context
and
so
meetings
on
my
website
has,
if
you're
on
spanish,
it
pulls
the
current
language
and
translates
to
spanish
and
if
you're
on
english,
it
pulls
the
current
language
and
translates
in
english.
The
url
is
the
same.
In
both
cases,
it's
just
meetings
because
views
is
automatically
pulling
the
language
from
context.
So
it's
the
same
path.
B
So
if
anyone
else
has
no
other
way
to
make
a
page
with
one
path
that
works
differently
in
two
languages
that
doesn't
use
in,
like
contextual
filter
in
views,
let
me
know,
but
that
was
the
only
way
I
could
reliably
reproduce
the
problem.
C
Okay,
well,
those
are
the
items
that
we
have
pulled
out
for
the
118
two
priorities:
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
issues
in
118
too,
though,
77
issues
are
currently
in
the
118
2
milestone.
Six
of
those
are
rtbc
already,
so
that
those
several
could
probably
be
moved
in
shortly.
C
119
119
is
the
next
minor
version
it
will
be
coming
out.
May
15th
2021
with
feature
freeze
on
may
1st.
We
have
one
two
three,
four
five
six
items
so
far
pulled
out
for
119..
C
First
one
is
adding
an
exposed
file,
name
filter
to
the
media
library,
dialog
issue
3293.
This
one
is
still
stuck.
C
We
have
a
technical
problem
that
needs
to
be
solved
here
that
we're
finding
challenging
to
get
through
so
that
one
needs
some
technical
expertise
to
get
solved,
adding
cash
tags
and
better
control
over
the
cash
max
age.
Header
issue,
4127
joseph,
is
the
advocate
for
this.
One
pull
request
currently
needs
review,
joseph
any
other
updates
on
that
issue.
G
Nothing
since
last
week,
I
don't
know
if
you
saw
the
video
from
last
week,
but
essentially
I
have
tests
passing
and
everything
is
working
as
far
as
I
can
tell,
but
I'd
like
a
technical
review,
I'm
pretty
sure,
there's
more
things.
I
need
to
clean
up
and
comments
and
code
standard
stuff.
C
C
John
you're,
the
advocate
for
the
next
issue
field,
has
value
visibility,
condition
for
layouts
issue
47-28.
I
have
not
worked
on
that
in
the
last
week.
Okay,
let's
see
I
didn't
check
on
this
one
before
the
meeting
add
support
for
relationships
to
layout
contexts,
issue
2134.
C
that
the
changes
required
are
pretty
minimal,
mostly
around
naming
conventions
still,
as
I
think,
where
we
last
left
that
so
doc
wilmont
is
the
advocate
for
that
hasn't
been
updated
in
over
a
month
now.
So
I
think
if
there
was
an
opportunity
for
another
person
to
come
in
and
make
the
suggested
naming
convention
changes,
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
candidate
to
just
give
some
assistance
on.
C
Let's
see,
we've
got
gregory
clonus's
issue,
merging
the
update
pages,
update
core
module
theme
and
layout
pages
onto
a
single
page
issue.
2714
currently
needs
work.
C
Let's
see
last
updated
17
days
ago,
looks
like
gregory
is
still
committed
to
making
the
necessary
changes
here.
So
I
think
that
we're
just
waiting
on
him
to
find
some
time
to
continue
working
on
it
and,
lastly,
change.
The
role
edit
urls
edit
is
in
the
url
when
configuring
a
user
role
to
configure
issue
48.99
bw
panda
is
the
advocate,
for
this
has
been
rtbc.
C
We
believe
and
the
only
problem,
whether
we
fix
it
now
or
later,
is
that
the
redirects
for
taking
the
old
deprecated
urls
and
sending
them
to
the
new
urls
is
they're
not
fully
working,
which
is
a
known
issue,
and
we
have
a
separate
issue
2833
to
handle
that.
So
I
think
peter,
if
you're
there,
you
might
be
wondering
like
do.
We
need
to
fix
this
problem
now
or
can
we
merge
in
the
change
and
then
fix
the
the
redirects
at
a
later
time?
C
I
think
I
think
I'd
like
to
hear
from
people
as
to
whether
or
not
we
think
that
that's
good
or
not,
and
in
some
cases
we
went
ahead
and
merged
changes
without
the
redirects
fully
working
already.
So
I
think
there's
precedent
for
changing
the
urls,
even
without
the
redirects,
because,
like
the
the
main
landing
pages
redirect,
but
the
sub
pages,
where
you
edit
an
individual
role
or
something
like
that,
I
think
in
the
past
there
might
have
been
menus,
for
example,
that
we
didn't
redirect
the
edit
screens
for
individual
menus.
C
Was
like
over
a
year
ago,
yeah,
on
the
other
hand,
also
didn't
hear
any
complaints,
any
complaints
about
the
url
changing
because
people
don't
normally
deep
link
to
editing
an
individual
menu
they
link
to
the
overall
menus
page
or
the
overall
roles
list.
They
don't
usually
link
to
an
individual
role.
B
C
B
C
All
right:
okay,
let's
move
on
from
that
anything
else
for
119
tim
you've
been
collecting
your
survey
of
kind
of
like
things
that
people
are
interested
in.
We
don't
really
have
any.
C
You
know
really
solid
way
of
saying:
okay,
we're
going
to
execute
on
this
other
than
getting
someone
to
volunteer.
So
I
think
that
the
survey
website
and
the
way
that
we're
collecting
data
is
like
yet
another
way
of
encouraging
people
to
move
in
a
particular
direction.
A
I'd
like
to
talk
briefly
about
that
like
what,
so,
what
do
we
do
with
those
results
and
like
one
thing
would
be
to
last
year
we
had
sort
of
a
goal
setting
meeting
and
we
could
do
something
like
that
where
we
just
talk
about
the
results
and
you
know
get
there
or
give
people
a
chance
to
give
feedback
or
or
to
trying
to
find
them.
Yeah
I
mean
you
know.
One
of
the
things
that
keeps
coming
up
towards
the
top
is
config
recipes,
but
but
that's
a
really
vague
idea
with
it's
like.
A
I
would
like
to
advocate
for
that,
but
there's
there's
so
many
different
routes
that
could
go.
I
you
know,
I
don't
even
know
what
I'd
be
advocating
for
to
start
with
so
anyways.
So
I'm
I
mean
I
we
we
don't
have
a
way
to
enforce
these
survey
results.
Nor
was
that
the
intention,
but
I
do
think
we
should
do
something
with
them
and
I'm
looking
for
ideas
like
how
do
we
stimulate
discussion
about
them
or
or
move
some
of
them
to
the
next
step?.
C
Yeah,
I
wonder
if
you
know
just
having
a
dedicated
non-weekly
call
where
that
is
the
whole
thing
that
we
talk
about.
A
C
And
this
is
also
a
a
constant
problem:
it's
not
just
about
1
19,
it's
about
how
we
do
features
for
every
single
release,
yep
sure.
A
I'll
just
say
that
we
we've
closed.
The
status
of
the
survey
is
that
you
can't
add
new
issues
to
the
survey
anymore,
but
you
can
still
go
in
and
vote
if
you
haven't
voted
yet
or
expressed
your
preferences.
Yet
you
still
can
and
you
can
change
your
preferences
so
and
some
people
have
been
going
back
on
a
regular
basis.
I've
noticed
and
although
the
results
haven't
changed
in
the
last
four
or
five
days
so.
C
All
right,
let's
see
initiatives,
we
have
a
couple
of
initiatives
that
are
broader
projects
that
might
span
multiple
releases.
C
We
have
the
unofficial,
says
here:
initiative
of
documentation,
peter
bw
panda
has
been
taking
the
lead
on
that,
including
the
doc
site
that
we
mentioned
earlier.
I'm
not
sure
if
peter
is
in
a
position
where
he
can
actually
give
us
an
update
from
where
he
is.
F
Yeah
well
yeah
a
few
meetings
ago,
was
said
that
it
probably
didn't
need
to
be
a
initiative.
But
so
we
just
went
ahead
with
it,
made
the
change
and,
as
jen
mentioned
before,
we're
just
working
on
now
just
migrating
the
content
from
the
main
backdrop
site
over
to
the
doc
site,
setting
up
the
redirects
and
then
after
that,
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
an
actual
plan
of
what
to
do,
but
we'll
have
a
dedicated
repo,
slash
issue
queue
for
them.
People
to
make
suggestions
about
how
to
improve
the
documentation
further.
C
Okay,
let's
see
next
up
telemetry
tim
you're,
the
initiative
lead
on
telemetry
collecting
more
information
about
the
way
people
are
using
backdrop,
so
we
can
better
make
decisions
on
things
with
that
data.
A
C
Yep
feeling
that
pressure
too,
because
as
the
one
that's
also
helping
along
on
that
one,
okay,
let's
see
theme
development
should
not
be
necessary
to
use
backdrop
luke
mccormick.
Is
the
initiative
lead
on
that?
I
wasn't
in
the
design
meeting
before
this,
but
I
saw
that
luke
was.
Was
there
an
update
on
that
initiative
during
the
design
call.
A
I
can
give
that
quick.
We
talked
about
a
few
related
issues,
but
the
main,
I
think
the
main
development
is
that
luke
has
done
a
bunch
of
work
on
a
a
website
that
is
useful
for
developers
and
we
want
to
we're
going
to
schedule
a
meeting
a
week
from
next
tuesday
at
the
time
of
at
noon,
pacific
time
to
talk
about
to
look
closely
at
the
work.
A
That's
been
done
on
that
initiative
and
to
get
feedback
and
we'd
really
like
to
have
some
other
voices
come
in
and
give
us
feedback
on
the
work
so
far
and
help
define
what
the
next
steps
are
or
how
to
maybe
how
to
wrap
that
initiative
up.
E
Tim
yep,
and
so
the
other
times
when
you
had
meetings
about
that
topic,
you
announced
it
or
luke
sort
of
one
day
before
right.
So
it
was
hard
to
join
for
me
and
but
I'm
interested
in
the
topic.
So
I
can't
guarantee
that
I
have
time
when
I
knew
it
the
week
before,
but
it
would
be
more
probable.
A
Well,
that
was
the
purpose
we
we
acknowledged
that
in
the
last
meeting-
and
that
was
the
purpose
of
announcing
this
one
a
week
and
a
half
in
advance.
So.
A
If,
if
olaf,
if
you're,
really
interested
in
that
time,
doesn't
work
for
you,
let
us
know
now,
so
we
can
maybe
make
some
adjustments
now,
because
we
really
would
love
to
get
you
involved.
A
A
week
from
tues
to
next
tuesday
at
12
o'clock,
specific
I'll
I'll
post
it
in
slack
and
zoolop
in
a
minute.
E
A
Let
me
just
make
a
blanket
statement
to
you
and
some
of
our
other
european
participants
that
we'd
really
like
to
get
you
involved
in
more
meetings
and
I'm
just
I've
made
some
attempts
to
try
to
schedule
it
at
better
times.
But,
to
be
honest,
I
don't
know
what's
a
good
time
for
it
for
you.
So
if
you.
B
C
All
right,
we
don't
have
anything
in
the
q
a
in
general
discussion,
but
if
anyone.
B
C
Like
to
bring
up
something,
oh
excellent,
go
ahead:
olaf.
E
Yeah,
it's
a
little
thing,
but
a
bit
worrying
for
me.
So
I
ran
so
this
is
I'm
asking
for
help
because
I
ran
I've
been
running
in
a
problem
quite
often.
B
E
I
only
posted
the
issue
last
week.
I
think,
because
I
yeah
I
didn't
know
how
to
reproduce
the
bug
and
it's
quite
annoying
and
I
think
it's
also
hard
to
fix.
So
that's
why
I'm
asking
for
help.
It's
issue
number
4933
I
can
shortly
describe.
Are
you
aware
of
the
so-called
maximize
mode
of
ck
editor?
E
So
it
just
gets
stuck
and
yeah
and
then,
if
you
had
made
a
lot
of
editings,
so
I
know
how
to
handle
it
because
then
it
gets
stuck
and
you
see
all
the
html
code
and
you
can
copy
it
and
then
I
copy
it
in
a
text
editor,
I
reload
the
form
and
then
I
paste
it
in
the
in
the
code
mode
and
then
I
can
save,
but
I
think
for
normal
people,
it's
not
not
so
not
a
good
workaround
so
and
indie
gold
sailor
confirmed
the
bug
but
she's
not
sure
how
to
fix
it.
E
And
it
reminds
me
the
bug
where
in
model
dialogues
we
had
a
problem
with
saving
ck
editor
content.
C
Great
yeah,
thanks
for
it
sounds
like
you
did
manage
to
find
a
way
to
reproduce
it.
The
the
steps
seem
pretty
clear
and
goes
looks
like
she
also
confirmed
it.
So
I
think
that
we
have
what
we
need.
It
sounds
like
possibly
javascript
error,
just
like
craps
things
out
which,
if
that's
the
case,
we'll,
probably
see
something
in
the
console,
and
I
hope
that.
E
Yeah-
and
I
think
also,
I
think,
it's
sort
of
quite
critical,
so
I'm
wondering
why
nobody
before
stumbled
into
it
and
also
I'm
a
bit
afraid
that
my
clients
do,
and
so
I
would
really
be
happy
if
we
could
do
some
progress
there.
B
B
I
added
the
issue
to
the
template,
so
we'll
keep
talking
about
it
great.
C
Do
you
guys
have
anything
else?
You
guys
would
like
to
bring
up.
C
Okay,
we're
right
up
at
the
top
of
the
hour,
and
some
of
us
have
meetings
immediately
following
this,
so
let's
go
ahead
and
wrap
it
up
for
today.
Thank
you
guys
all
for
joining
as
always
and
we'll
catch
you
guys
next
week.