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A
Now
we
have
a
couple
of
commissioners
who
are
otherwise
occupied
and
or
on
vacation,
but
I
appreciate
everybody
being
available
today.
I
don't
know
that
we
will
need
the
a
lot
of
time
I
have
was
stopping
at
4
30
last
the
august
12
meeting.
We
should
be
able
to
stop
at
4
15,
because
again
this
is
essentially
a
business
meeting.
I'm
just
mindful,
as
everybody
is,
that
september
is
truly
right
around
the
corner,
and
that
means
we
will
be
in
our
last
three
months
of
there's.
A
Commissioner
jones,
that
you
mean
means
we've
got
three
months
left
to
finish
our
work
in
every
respect,
so
I
think
we
were
making
a
great
progress.
The
panel
discussion
on
best
practices,
it
was,
was
terrific,
thank
you
again
to
peta
and
scott
sheila
for
their
efforts
with
that,
and
there
has
been
a
flurry
of
very
helpful
documents
of
all
sorts
as
a
result
of
that
subcommittee's
efforts.
A
So
we
will
talk
about
all
that
in
just
a
minute
and
the
other
items
on
the
agenda,
but
welcome
it's
great
to
see
all
of
you
and
I
I
am
determined
that
at
some
point,
even
if
it's
a
post
november
30
gathering
somewhere
that
this
group
will
come
together
in
the
same
in
the
same
room,
because
I
think
we're
all
a
little
web
extra
zoomed
out
and
no
no
offense
to
webex
or
zooms
just
the
way
of
the
world.
Okay.
A
Well,
let's
jump
in
then
to
the
commission
business
part
of
the
agenda.
I
think
I
hope
some
of
you
were
able
to
see
right
before
the
meeting
started.
Apparently
jasmine
had
some
technical
difficulties
with
the
minutes
for
june
28th,
so
we'll
we'll
get
them
out
there
and
get
them
approved.
There
are
actually
a
couple
of
other
sets
of
minutes
because
we've
been
meeting
so
often
that
will
also
need
to
be
up
and
approved,
but
jasmine.
A
We
think
we
can
have
that
and
we
can
have
those
up
either
by
next
time
or
frankly,
if
we
have
them
and
they're
put
on
sharepoint.
Maybe
we
just
do
a
do.
A
an
email
survey
and
approval.
A
B
On
sharepoint
over
the
weekend
and
I'll
alert
everyone-
and
I
will
guess
that
a
certain
commissioner
maybe
named
peta-
will
have
some
edits
because
she's
got
an
eagle
eye,
but
we
can
approve
them
over
email
that
works
as
well.
A
Okay,
well,
if
you
would
just
let
us
know
when,
and
so
it's
not
piecemeal,
if
they're
going
to
be
a
couple,
that'll
be
ready
in
a
week
or
10
days,
and
you
want
to
wait
and
put
those
up,
but
just
if
you
send
us
all
an
email,
I
know
we
all
check
sharepoint
on
a
daily
if
not
hourly
basis,
but
just
in
case,
if
you
do
that,
so
we
can
be
alerted
to
go
to
sharepoint.
A
Take
a
look
at
the
minutes,
make
any
suggested
changes
or
corrections
and
and
move
from
there.
So
we
don't
get
too
far
behind
on
that.
Okay,
thank
you.
The
next,
the
next
item
to
be
on
the
commission
business
has
the
excellent
title
best
practices
compendium,
I'm
sure
compendium
is
a
word.
We
all
use
every
day
in
our
in
our
normal
conversation,
but
it's
a
it's.
It's
good
word
because,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
there
is
an
extraordinary
amount
of
helpful
materials
that
have
been
distributed.
A
Peter
has
has
raised
is
just
sort
of
the
organizational
aspect
to
this,
because
there
is
a
lot
of
information.
The
compendium
piece
comes
from
the
two
things
again
from
peta,
one
and
dan.
A
I
think
this
was
at
the
august
12
meeting
this
excellent
graphic
that
peter
put
put
together,
and
if
you
don't
have
that
I'll
be
sure
you
you
get
it
and
then
peter
sent
an
email
to
everybody
on
the
18th
of
august,
with
a
best
practices,
suggestions,
bolded
and
keyed,
in
sort
of
step,
by
step,
where
that,
where
each
of
the
suggestions
would
fit
within
the
structure
of
the
graphic
that
peter
designed,
I
think
it's
had.
I
said
trademark
have
not
copyrighted
since
inappropriately
so.
A
But
the
point
is
there
are
there's
a
lot
of
number
of
excellent
things
in
there
and
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
for
everyone
to
go
through
and
look
at
it
again.
I'm
thinking
in
terms
of
the
final
report
and
in
that
same
field
of
thought,
we
need
to
go
back,
look
at
all
of
the
recommendations
and
there
were
a
lot
of
them.
Look
at
the
recommendations
that
were
made
and
see
how
we
would
fit
any
best
practices
pieces
in
there.
I
know
that
steve
sent
some
comments.
A
Lots
of
the
the
takeaways,
if
you
will
from
the
panel
discussion
on
best
practices,
but
I
want
to
be
sure
that
every
every
sub
committee
does
that
and
again.
I
think
it
is
august.
18
summary
if
you
will,
and
some
time
spent
looking
at
the
materials
that
the
panelists
provided
and
other
things
that
have
come
in
since
then
would
be
helpful,
and
I
would
ask
all
the
subcommittee
chairs
to
arrange
with
your
subcommittee
members
at
the
time
to
do
that
before
too
long
here.
Just
so,
we
can
again.
A
C
So
cooperative
purchasing,
which
was
yes,
is
really
a
subset
of
what
peta
was
doing
and
peter,
and
I
did
have
an
extensive
phone
call
with
debbie
groat
who's,
the
baltimore
metropolitan
council,
director
of
cooperative
purchasing,
that's
quite
some
time
ago,
and
but
I
do
remember
most
of
it.
The
good
news
is
that,
for
the
most
part,
baltimore
county
is
doing
pretty
well
and
is
cooperative
purchasing
effort.
C
So
the
finer
points
of
some
areas
are
that
that
sometimes,
for
example
like
getting
you
know
during
snowstorms
when
they
need
to
ice
the
streets,
it's
actually
better
to
have
a
local
person,
because
they're
locally,
responsive
there's
only
two
or
three
manufacturers
that
make
that
kind
of
product
nationally.
C
So
there's
no
real
reason
to
deal
with,
naturally,
because
you're
going
to
get
a
local
person
delivering,
on
the
other
hand,
for
other
things,
going
on
piggybacking
on
a
big
contract
is
more
advantageous,
so
it's
really
product
by
product
and
service
by
service
that
it
comes
up.
I
think
the
three
quick
takeaways
one
is:
it
still
always
needs
to
be
reviewed.
There
is
a
tendency
to
get
locked
into
these
big
contracts
and
and
and
not
take
a
fresh
look
at
them.
So
I
think
one
of
the
things
in
peta.
C
I
think
at
the
time,
but
I
resent
it
just
a
little
while
ago
that
that
the
choice
take
a
fresh
look
at
it,
anyways
because
there's
a
tendency
to
just
fall
into
the
habit
of
it,
and
the
second
point
is
that
the
health
insurance
pooling
which
I
brought
up
here-
and
there
is
actually
a
really
good
thing
and
ought
to
be-
is
something
that
we
fully
endorse
that
that
be
investigated,
because
that
doesn't
involve
any
small
business
entity
or
any
large
business
entity.
It's
something
that
can
be
done
immediately.
C
C
So
that's
that's.
Nice
to
know
doesn't
always
have
to
be
bad
news
or
criticism,
but
the
health
insurance
pooling
and
just
to
take
a
fresh
look
at
it
periodically
when
getting
these
contracts.
Maybe
some
of
them
could
be
a
little
bit
shorter
from
time
to
time
and
reviewed.
That's
really
the
takeaway
message
I'll
leave
it.
If
you
had
something
you
wanted
to
add
from
our
conversation,
I
wanted
to
summarize
it
good
good.
Okay,
thank
you.
C
A
No,
that
that's
fine
and-
and
you
and
I
emailed
before
I
guess
it
was
early
august
and
I
had
on
my
list
to
ask
dan
to
talk
about
cooperative
purchasing
and
the
like,
and
so
that's
that's
great
and
thank
you
for
email
you
sent
today
and
jasmine.
A
I
don't
know
if
that
was
up
on
sharepoint
or,
if
not
dan
sent
an
email
to
jasmine
me,
elizabeth
and
peta
this
afternoon
and
if
that's
not
on
sharepoint,
I
think
that'd
be
helpful
if
you
put
that
up
or
at
least
distributed.
So
everybody
has
a
chance
to
look
at
that.
B
Yes,
I'm
going
to
upload
this
evening,
like
I
said
I
was
having.
E
F
F
I
guess,
and
it
relates
to
their
need
to
use
the
county
purchasing
system
even
when
they
are
a
state
funded
entity
or
have
more
affiliation
with
the
state,
and
it
was
a
very
positive
and
and
productive
conversation
mostly
complementary
about
our
very
short
staffed
procurement
office
rose,
jim
stevenson
and
others,
but
I
think,
if
there's
any
way,
our
relationship
to
entities
like
the
courts
in
terms
of
purchasing
could
be
flagged
in
the
report.
F
It
would
be
very
beneficial
and
the
reason
this
seemed
like
the
right
time
to
bring
it
up
is
they
were
saying
how,
on
a
routine
basis
it's
pretty
smooth,
but
then
they
get
these
big
influxes
of
money,
for
example,
they're
setting
up
a
drug
court
and
that
creates
a
whole
need
for
a
bunch
of
contracts
specific
to
a
project.
Often
the
state
funding
will
say
you
must
use
your
county's
purchasing
process.
F
G
Thanks
elizabeth
I've
made
a
note
of
that
and
we'll
incorporate
that
in
our
work
going
forward,
but
that's
a
a
great
point
so
we'll
pursue
with
staff
any
other
of
those
agencies
that
might
be
similar.
So
I
think.
F
I'll
connect
you
now
with
tim
sharon
in
with
the
sheriff's
office,
who
is
wears
many
hats?
The
reason
it
seemed
timely
now
was
because,
in
fact
sometimes
these
are
state
funding
streams
that
multiple
jurisdictions
are
deploying
and
and
using
cooperative
purchasing
is
what
rosen
and
others
recommend
rose,
you're,
probably
familiar
with
this
in
general.
Again,
it
was
very
complimentary,
and
I
thought
you
know
something
really
important
to
recognize
in
many
ways
through
the
final
report,
so
I'll
send
an
email
connecting
you
with
with
tim
and
then
maybe
rose
can
share.
G
That
also
dovetails
with
one
of
the
recommendations
that
we
heard
from
a
number
of
our
speakers,
and
that
is
woven
in
to
part
of
the
material
that
I
put
together
and
that
is
expanding
communication
on
procurement
in
the
county,
so
that
more
people
know
what
is
available
so
that
everybody
is
working
from
the
same
page
or
the
same
foundation.
If
you
think
of
my
little.
F
Yes,
your
matrix
yes-
and
that
came
up
too,
that
it's
every
few
years
and
so
having
a
little
primer
to
go
back
to,
because
these
these
bigger
ticket
items
are
not
routine,
and
so
they
would
probably
be
better
prepared
and
less
of
a
burden.
If
you
will
on
on
our
purchasing
office,
if
they
were
a
little
better
versed
reading
ahead
before
they
call
rose
or
jim,
but
they
were
very
complimentary,
and
that
was
that
was
great.
A
Rose,
if
I
can
ask
you
just
whenever
I
hear
quartz
my
ears
pick
up,
are
you
giving
any
kind
of
particular
heads
up
that
this
is
coming
or
is
there
any
sort
of
cyclical
aspect
to
it?
So
there's
a
big
calendar
somewhere,
that's
maintained
in
the
county.
So
you
understand
that
I
understand.
A
If
the
court
decides,
the
circuit
decides
we're
going
to
have
a
drug
court
in
the
county,
all
of
a
sudden,
that's
brand
new,
but
I'm
just
wondering
the
extent
to
which
things
are
dropped
on
your
office
as
opposed
to
you're,
getting
an
appropriate
amount
of
notice
and
maybe
an
opportunity
for
some
input.
H
We
don't
receive
proper
notice,
you
know
most
of
the
time
we
are
purchasing.
We're
brought
in
probably
midways
conversation,
which
you
know
for
from
a
procurement
standpoint,
is
pretty
much
behind
the
eight
ball
for
us.
We
really
need
to
be
there
in
the
very
beginning
of
any
conversation.
So
no
we
do
not.
We
most
of
the
time
is
midway
or
it's
just
dropped
on
us,
it's
kind
of
like.
Oh,
we
need
to
get
a
purchase
order.
So
let's
call
purchasing.
I
H
Yes,
we
do,
but
it's
not
adhered
to,
should
I
say
everyone
doesn't
follow.
We
do
have
some
departments
that
do
a
really
good
job
at
you
know
just
making
sure
at
least
nine
months
out.
They
give
us
some
sort
of
notification
and
then
some
departments
they
do
not,
but
we
do
continuously
advise
agencies.
The
importance
by
way
of
you
know
just
email,
either
through
training
the
importance
of
projecting
and
and
and
giving
us
that
that
cushion
room
to
properly
re-solicit.
J
H
And
that
is
correct,
and
I
concur
with
that.
I
think
another
thing:
if
I
can
just
throw
out
there
is
just
you
know,
just
having
the
the
staff
or
maybe
a
person
dedicated
to
you
know,
reviewing
and
being
that
liaison
between
purchasing
and
the
agency.
To
be
a
reminder,
you
know
that
this
stuff
is
coming
up
and
just
making
sure
that
we
have
the
adequate
information.
We
need
to
put
out
a
proper
solicitation,
so
I
concur
mere
dissing.
Thank
you.
I
But
by
doing
that,
you
may
also
do
something
else,
particularly
if,
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
publish
that
information,
you
give
folks
who
may
not,
you
know,
often
for
the
vendor
community.
H
Yes,
I
concur,
and
I
do
want
to
throw
out
there.
I
know
that
we've
thrown
out
there,
the
workday
implementation
and
those
type
of
things
are
part
of
that
conversation
as
well.
You
know
just
trying
to
you
know,
figure
out
the
reporting
capabilities
and
how
it
can
be
beneficial
to
helping
the
department's
forecasting
and
also
implementing
a
module
specific
to
vendors,
to
provide,
which
you
just
mentioned,
that
you
know
that
has
up
that
assistance
to
let
them
know
when
something
is
out
for
solicitation.
A
H
A
G
G
Pete
also
fed
back
a
couple
of
comments
today
from
the
victoria
steeger
email
that
I
shared
with
everybody
last
night,
which
includes
a
lot
of
really
good
suggestions
and
resources,
including
green
purchasing
dan
for
sustainability,
and
so
all
of
those
things
still
need
more
input
from
everybody
else,
as
well
as
and
of
course,
steve
had
sent
in
some
stuff.
G
Likewise,
they
all
still
need
to
be
integrated
and
additional
input
would
be
helpful
because,
if
you
put
them
all
side
by
side,
you'll
see
there's
duplications,
and
so
they
have
to
be
sort
of
pulled
together.
B
Yes,
I
can
gladly
set
that
up
similar
to
how
I'll
be
uploading,
dan's
email,
probably
just
download
the
email
as
a
pdf.
G
Yes
and
and
dan's
email
should
go
in
there,
my
email
of
the
18
should
go
in
there.
Rose's
list
should
go
in
there,
etc
so
that
it's
you
know
a
file
folder
that
has
all
of
our
working
material
for
best
practices.
If,
if
that's
okay,
yeah,
no,
that's
definitely
something
I
can
take
care
of.
Thank
you.
A
That'd
be
very
helpful
and
again
going
back
to
an
earlier
comment.
We
all
of
us
can't
just
rely
on
peta
and
scott
and
sheila
do
all
the
best
practices
work.
So
I
think
it
is
important
to
go
into
that
file
and
I
would
ask
all
the
subcommittee
chairs
to
do
that.
A
Talk
to
their
members
see
what
what
could
be
pulled
out
or
highlighted
with
respect
to
your
specific
sections,
and
we
can
see
how
this
will
work
best
in
the
final
report,
whether
we
talk
about
what
I
would
call
sort
of
the
predicate
best
practices
pieces,
which
is
the
organization
of
purchasing
office,
for
example,
the
the
contract
monitoring
data
analytics
that
sort
of
thing.
A
But
then
there
may
be
specific
things,
I'm
just
thinking
sustainability
because
emails
in
front
of
me
here
there
may
be
specific
things
where
we'll
say
these
are
the
these:
are
the
core
best
practices,
things
that
sort
of
launch
the
procurement
process,
but
when
you're
procuring
and
thinking
about
sustainability
when
you're
procuring,
because
you're
looking
for
a
construction
contract
or
whatever
it
would
be
if
you're
for
curing-
and
you
want
to
encourage
minority
owned
businesses
and
women
who
visit
small
businesses.
These
are
the
things
in
particular.
You
should
do
we
can.
A
We
can
refer
the
reader
of
the
final
report
to
the
subcommittee
sections
in
those
recommendations.
So
I'll
just
ask
everybody
to
to
please
focus
on
that
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
So
we
can
have
some.
You
know
start
getting
things
drafted
up
again
for
the
final
report,
but
the
idea
of
peta
having
that
put
in
a
separate
folder
it'd,
be
great.
C
That
makes
sense
from
another
point
of
view,
because
we,
you
know,
we
still
have
this
issue
of
charter
code
manual
and
the
the
charter
is
pretty
gonna,
be
pretty
clear.
C
That's
not
something
we're
gonna
change,
but
the
code
you
know
needs
to
be
in
in
fairly
general
terms
on
all
the
points
you
mentioned
in
a
few
others,
then
the
manual
reflects
the
things
that
we've
just
discussed,
but
there
may
be
a
few
things
in
in
best
practices
that
or
otherwise
that
need
to
be
shifted
over
into
the
code
and
that
just
kind
of
sort
that
out
so
that
the
supportive
documents
like
what
I
just
said
on
sustainability
shouldn't
be
in
the
code.
H
A
And
I,
and
all
that's
all
great
thoughts
everybody
has.
I
I
just
want
to
have
us
thinking
about
it
now
and
trying
to
address
it
now
before
it's
november
10th,
and
we
have
three
weeks
left
to
get
the
to
get
the
report
done.
So
I
appreciate
everybody's
efforts.
Yes,
peter.
G
I
do
want
to
urge
everybody
to
look
closely
at
some
of
the
material
that
vicky
steger
sent
and
that
I
forwarded,
because
the
state
has
way
more
resources
than
the
county
does
and
spent
and
used
a
lot
of
resources
to
put
together
their
response
to
their
commission
recommendations
and
so,
for
example,
on
green
purchasing.
There's
a
lot
of
really
good
stuff.
G
I
think
it
was
justina
talked
a
little
bit
about
that.
Vicky
talked
a
little
bit
about
that
as
well,
but
there's
some
real
meat
in
those
documents.
So,
as
you're
refining
your
thought
processes
about
what
based
on
your
subcommittees
have
come
across.
A
Sure,
that's
that's
a
great
point
and
there
is
a
lot
of
helpful
material
in
there,
and
I
then
remind
me
if
I'm
mistaken,
but
I
think
you
were
on
the
state
commission
to
reform
procurement
and
other
people
on
the
commit
on
this.
Commission
may
have
followed
some
of
that.
A
But
there
are
links
to
links
to
that
report,
and
I
was
thinking
a
moment
ago
when
rose
was
talking
about
the
courts
just
just
as
an
example,
because
I
don't
want
to
get
in
trouble
with
the
courts,
but
just
as
an
example
that
the
courts
don't
give,
perhaps
all
the
notice
they
might
involve
the
county
purchasing
folks
as
early
as
they.
A
This
might
be
more
than
helpful,
but
looking
at
one
of
the
things
victoria
said,
which
is
and
some
of
the
other
best
practices
folks
said
the
same
thing:
here's
what
you
do
to
hear
one
general
best
practice
is
get
started
early
and
communicate
with
everybody,
who's
going
to
be
involved
and
constantly
reevaluate
the
process.
But
it's
it's
involved
those
early
on
who
ought
to
be
involved.
So
we
might
might
remind
the
courts
that
got
to
take
a
look
at
the
the
state's
own
best
practices
in
that
regard.
E
Yeah,
I
read
the
email
from
victoria
steger
and
she
has
a
a
lot
of
good
information
in
there,
especially
what
I
was
impressed
with
was
the
emerald
marketplace
and
I
know
we
use
that
through
the
state,
but
I'm
just
wondering
it's
also
available,
I
think,
to
the
counties
for
procurement
practices.
So
I
was
just
wondering
who
can
answer
the
question,
but
how
much
is
baltimore
county
procurement
involved
with
emaryland
marketplace.
H
So
I
can
answer
that
question
for
you,
peter
so
by
law.
Baltimore
county
is
responsible
for
or
required
to,
post
solicitations
and
email
the
marketplace.
So
yes,
we
are
involved.
I
have
two
office
assistants
that
every
time
we
post
a
solicitation,
they
go
into
email,
the
marketplace
post
it
and
then
provide
directions
that
the
documents
are
provided
on
our
web
page.
So
we
do
use
them.
H
And
if
I
can
just
add
before
we
move
forward
with
from
the
dr
victoria
steger's
conversation,
she
is
actually
going
to
be
one
of
the
speakers
for
the
october
mppa
maryland
purchase
public
purchasy
association
for
that
month
on
october,
the
14th-
if
there
is
some
interest
from
the
panel
to
just
you
know,
be
a
listener
or
be
a
part
of
that
that
presentation,
please
let
me
know
she
will
be
discussing
you
know,
certifications
best,
you
know
practical
certifications,
you
know
qualifications
and
the
benefits
of
you
know
procurement
officers
being
certified.
H
So
if
you're
interested,
let
me
know-
and
I
can
just
put
a
little
note
to
send
everyone-
then
the
inv
invite
once
it's
posted
and
that's
in
october
october,
the
14th.
A
Thank
you
good
to
know.
Thank
you.
Okay
is
everybody
in
agreement
about
how
we're
going
to
try
to
move
forward
on
the
best
practices,
piece
petey?
A
If
you,
your
group,
need
additional
help
as
we
start
writing
all
this
up,
please
tell
us
because
we'll
do
it,
but
I
do
again
want
all
the
sub
committees
to
take
a
look
from
their
own
perspective
and
the
recommendations
they've
made
in
any
new
recommendations,
so
we
can
make
certain
we've
we've
covered
all
those
bases
beyond
again
what
I
keep
calling
the
predicate
best
practices
protocols,
if
you
will.
G
In
the
email
I
sent
out
last
night,
I
pulled
out
the
sec
the
way
that
the
state
constructed
its
table
of
contents
with
five
or
six
headings
and
then
what
they
did
was.
They
basically
hung
all
kinds
of
the
rest
of
their
recommendations
into
those
key
headings
of
their
report.
G
Their
final
report
so
as
you're
processing
your
subcommittee
work
and
as
you
look
at
the
materials
that
will
be
in
this
compendium
folder
that
jasmine
is
going
to
put
up
for
us
think
about
what
might
make
sense
in
terms
of
actually
organizing
the
recommendations.
A
Okay,
great
well,
thank
you
everybody
for
that.
Let's
move
on
to
item
two
c
efficiency.
Audit
final
report
update
elizabeth.
F
Yes,
I'm
about
to
share
a
powerpoint
that
is
both
an
update
and
an
overview.
What
I'm
attempting
to
do
is
let
the
commission
know
all
of
the
topic
areas
that
the
consultants
have
flagged
for
recommendations
and
you'll
see
it's
about
eight
slides
and
it's
a
lot
of
topics.
I
cannot
speak
to
the
content.
F
Their
final
report
will
be
done
by
mid,
if
not
mid,
certainly
late
september,
and
while
I
recognize
it
bumps
up
against
the
final
report
deadline,
I
I
still
think
you're
reviewing
their
work
is
the
best
way
to
consider
how
to
reference
it.
So
I
just
wanted
to
state
that
up
front,
because
I
do
not
feel
comfortable
speaking
to
all
of
the
substance
of
their
work.
I
see
beth
smiling.
Do
you
want
to
add
anything
better.
D
No,
I
think,
that's
very
accurate
and
I
agree
that
the
papers
describe
all
of
these
slides
much
better
and
we're
happy
to
share
those
on
your
sharepoint.
However,
you'd
like
that,
might
help.
F
Now
you'll
recall
that
bob
furman
appeared
at
a
prior
meeting
and
I
will
be
the
first
to
admit
that
it
was
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
230
000
feet.
Some
of
those
topics
are
still
30
000
feet
and
I'm
I'm
grateful
that
this
commission
is
actually
going
to
put
much
more
meat
on
the
bones,
knowing
both
your
dedication
and
what's
been
produced
so
far,
so
I
think
if
it
means
anything
to
you,
this
project
is
going
to
outshine
the
consultants
in
some
areas.
F
F
There
we
go,
and
everybody
see
this
okay,
so
just
to
recap,
these
are
a
variety
of
recommendations
that
have
something
to
do
with
the
procurement
process
and
or
related
topics
that
this
commission
was
asked
to
consider.
F
Just
so,
you
know
and
rose
feel
free
to
chime
in
everything
that
they
have
looked
at
so
far
has
been
shared
as
draft
with
the
county
executive
and
also
they
enlisted
feedback
from
their
respective
departments.
So
this
has
not
been
sort
of
a
one-off
process,
and
so
just
to
recap.
H
If
I
could
elizabeth,
please
please
yes,
so
the
consultant
definitely
has
had
some
meetings
with
purchasing,
as
well
as
the
purchasing
agent
at
blaze
and
the
finance
operational
deputy
director
rob
bob
bob
preston,
and
you
know
to
your
point
what
you
mentioned
before
some
of
the
recommendations
were,
you
know,
discussed
there.
Was
you
know
some
that
we,
you
know
either
agree,
disagree
or
either.
They
just
felt
very
strongly
that
they
just
wanted
to
continue
to
put
those
recommendations
in
there
even
after
discussion.
H
So
as
you
go
through
it,
if
anyone
has
any
questions,
please
by
all
means
feel
free
to
ask.
F
Doesn't
mean
rose,
and
I
can
answer
so.
Let's
get
going
as
this
is
you
know
this
is
a
comp
was
and
is
a
comprehensive
assessment.
It
is
including
baltimore
county
public
schools.
That
final
report
will
be
presented
to
the
school
board
in
early
september.
I'm
trying
to
recall
if
it
includes
purchasing
I'm
sure
it
does,
but
I
don't
recall
I've
been
less
involved
in
that
beth.
F
We
could
pull
out
those
and
share
with
the
commission,
though,
now
that
I
think
about
it,
I'm
just
going
to
go
over
the
ones
impacting
baltimore
county
government
and
you'll
see
here
it's
11
recommendations
which
include
some
of
the
areas
the
commission
is
tasked
with
including
fleet
management.
F
This
is
you
know,
topics
that
are
the
subject
of
their
work
and
again
you'll
see
the
content
of
of
what
they're
suggesting
they're,
also
focusing
on
interagency
participation
again,
something
that
I
know
really
was
just
discussed
just
more
communication
more,
I
guess
more,
more
advanced
notice
of
what's
coming
down
the
pike
performance
data,
the
whole.
You
know
increasing
the
approval
authority
to
100
000.
F
We
know
that
some
of
these
things
will
be
a
heavy
lift
and
there
may
be
statutory
change
but
needed,
but
one
of
the
things
about
you
know
a
consultant-driven
process
that
they
put
it
on
paper
and
then
it's
up
to
the
county
to
decide
what
to
do
with
their
with
their
recommendations.
But
this
these
are
the
in
these
two
bigger
areas.
These
are
the
detailed
areas
that
they've
looked
at
on
the
healthcare
side.
F
They've
definitely
made
recommendations
on
well
re-bidding
services,
which
I
think
some
of
this
is
you
have
to
do
it
anyway.
I
don't
know
I'm
just
saying
this
is
what
they've
put
in
writing
currently
there's
a
requirement
that
all
new
hires
get
a
physical
with
a
particular
health
care
provider,
so
they've
recommended
that
be
discontinued
and
then
applying
savings
to
other
areas
of
health
insurance
for
county
employees.
G
Excuse
me,
elizabeth,
yes,
is
that
a
statement
actually
correct
that
the
services
the
contract
is
expiring
in
june
of
next
year,
when
that
contract
was
renewed.
I
thought
it
was
for
more
like
five
years,
so
I'm
not
sure
that
that's
correct
well,.
G
F
C
Have
some
opportunity
to
sorry
re-bid
services
upon
contract
expiration
june
22nd
is
that
june
22nd
2022
assume.
D
The
next
expiration
date,
but
we
will
check
both
the
contract
and
what
they
wrote.
Yeah
and.
E
K
B
F
Health
insurance,
yeah
different
contracts.
C
H
F
Yes-
and
I
think
they
may
be
conflating
two
different
health
related
contracts,
the
difference
between
employee
health
insurance
and
then
a
contract
that
it
has
with
mercy
health
which
is
includes
if
employees
get
injured
on
the
job.
But
then
also
this
requirement
that
all
new
employees,
regardless
of
their
job,
function
and
undergo
a
pre-hiring
physical
exam,
not
a
drug
test,
a
whole
exam.
F
We
can
continue
offline
on
all
the
health
care
recommendations
if
you'd
like
they
attempted
to
look
at
purchasing
with
regard
to
the
office
of
information
technology.
F
They
did
not
do
a
deep
dive
into
mbewbe
improvements,
as
both
the
disparity
study
in
this
commission
has
done.
Their
primary
recommendation
was
related
to
dpwt,
which
kind
of
flagged
the
fact
that
there
needs
to
be
more
cross-pollination
with
departments
and
have
people
at
the
department
level
who
understand
the
program
and
that's
up
in
the
survey
results
that
I'll
share
at
the
end
here.
So
some
of
what
they
found
with
regard
to
dpwt
and
mbewb
opportunities
will,
you
know,
resonate
with
the
other
work.
F
That's
been
done,
but
certainly
validate
what
we
already
know.
I
think
bob
furman
talked
about
the
organizational
operational
changes,
some
of
which
were
flagged
in
the
commission's
interim
report.
You
know
the
need
for
more
training
funding
for
training.
I
I
know
he
flagged
this
last
one
which
I
now
I
complete
these
projects-
I
admit,
but
just
you
know
there
are
some
non-procurement
functions
that
they
recommend
to
be
transferred
out.
F
I
process,
I
remember-
and
I
don't
was
that
in
the
interim
report-
phil.
F
G
F
F
They
also
have
some
recommendations
around
service
level
agreement
which
you
you
all
you
know
be
able
to
see
the
details
of
what
they
shared.
You
know
again,
you
know
we
should
have
best
practices,
but
I
dare
say
what
we've
discovered
through
this
commission's
work
is
going
to
be
much
more
hands-on
youthful,
so
it
should
dovetail,
but
I
expect
your
work
will
be
more
detailed
on
that.
F
This
is
one
that
we
are
very
glad
that
they
took
a
deep
dive
about
fleet
management
and
have
recommended
combining
the
management
of
these
two
different
divisions
within
two
departments
regarding
fleet
across
county
department.
So
I
don't
know
that
the
commission
had
time
to
look
at
that,
yet,
unless
steve
you're
looking
at
it,
but
it
is
a
it
is
a
full
recommendation.
Oh
that
will,
I
think,
be
of
interest
to
you.
L
F
So
beth
she-
and
I
worked
very
closely
trying
to
manage
these
consultants.
Yesterday
they
did
a
presentation
of
the
county
executive
and
we
worked
hard
to
make
sure
in
three
hours
they
covered.
I
don't
know
what
100
and
some
recommendations
beth.
If,
if
you
think-
and
you
know
best-
which
of
these
are
really
final,
what
I
don't
want
to
do
is
share
with
commissioners.
Some
of
the
sort
of
it
might
be
change
stuff
and
then
it
gets
changed,
but
I
think
some
of
these
are
pretty
baked.
Wouldn't
you
say
that
I.
D
Think
most
of
them
are
they're
going
to
be
making
final
changes
over
the
next
two
weeks.
We
had
quite
a
bit
of
input
back
from
directors
yesterday
after
the
meeting,
so
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
conversation
engaging
for
the
rest
of
this
week,
so
I
would
think
by
early
next
week
at
the
latest.
Probably
all
of
the
final
changes
will
be
made.
A
A
No,
I
appreciate
that,
and
I
understand
that
things
can
always
change
at
the
last
minute,
but
the
sooner
we
get
our
respective
hands
on
this
and
our
eyes
on
it.
It'd
be
great,
and-
and
thank
you,
steve
and
pete
for
already
jumping
in
on
fleet
management,
but
we
knowing
this
was
coming,
we've
been
obviously
anticipating
it
in,
and
so,
if
we
can
get
something
shortly
after
labor
day,
elizabeth
that
would
be.
F
Very
helpful
and
again,
as
beth
just
said,
some
of
the
holdup
is
changes
based
on
department,
director
feedback,
for
mostly
for
accuracy.
There
are
recommendations
that
departments
do
not
like
that
doesn't
mean
they're
not
going
to
be
recommended.
Nor
does
it
mean
because
it's
in
the
report
the
county
is
going
to
take.
You
know
everything
and
go
ahead,
and
do
it
right
now.
F
The
back
and
forth
with
directors
is
to
make
sure
two
things
one
that
sort
of
descriptions
of
what
what
the
current
is
is
are
accurate
and
that's
important
for
lots
of
reasons,
but
an
issue,
because
this
project
started
in
february
march,
and
it's
now
almost
september.
It
was
meant
to
be
six
months,
but
some
departments
have
done
things
that
are
relevant
to
the
to
the
work
of
the
consultants.
The
county
executive
yesterday
session
specifically
asked
that
everything
reflect
as
best
it
can.
F
The
current
state
of
play
there's
some
I.t
systems
that
are
recommended
that
have
actually
taken
become,
if
not
fully
utilized,
have
had
more
implementation
than
is
reflected
in
the
consultant's
work.
So
it's
really
this
final
updating
for
accuracy
that
we're
looking
to
do
in
the
next
two
weeks
with
department
input.
F
Okay,
so
telematics
is
another
aspect
of
of
our
fleet
management
that
it
may
actually
be
further
along
than
this
suggests.
But
it's
flagged
as
a
recommendation
area
and
again
there
wasn't.
We've
had-
and
I
don't
know
steve
probably
could
speak
to
it.
There's
just
a
lot
of
work
to
do
around
vehicles
in
the
county,
and
this
process
has
certainly
allowed
us
to
shed
light
on
that,
and
I
think
ultimately
we
will
have.
F
I
hope
some
streamlined
operations
and
and
certain
departments
will
feel
like
it's.
It's
a
better
system
for
purchasing
for
maintenance
and
for
phasing
out
vehicles
that
that
may
be
passed
their
useful
life
for
the
work
of
the
county.
So
my
goal
here
was
just
to
give
you
these
bucket
areas.
I
don't
know
the
content.
G
Are
you
able
to
share
these
with
the
commissioners
elizabeth,
the
slides?
Can
we
have
yeah
definitely.
F
Okay,
thank
you.
These
are
our
slides.
I
mean
we
they're,
not
consultant
okay,
so,
as
you
recall,
the
survey
to
county
employees
about
their
interface
with
purchasing
was
done
through
the
consultant
survey
about
more
issues
just
for
ease
of
of
getting
responses
and
not
burdening
people
with
multiple
surveys.
We
did
not
have
a
great
turnout.
I
think
summer
was
a
problem.
We
sent
it
out
multiple
times.
F
I
expected
the
consultants
would
do
more
follow-up,
whatever
of
the
1562
people.
It's
still
interesting.
So
of
the
people
who
responded
to
this
big
survey,
20
a
quarter
roughly
reported
that
their
job
includes
interfaith
with
purchasing.
F
That's
is
what
it
is
out
of
the
1500,
and
it
looks
so
so
of
the
questions
asked
and
you
all
did
design
the
question.
So
you
probably
know
better
what
they
are.
You
know
for
the
most
part
on
the
topic
of
communication,
responsiveness
and
timeliness,
there's
general
satisfaction,
certainly
with
communication
and
with
responsiveness,
they're
really
all
of
them.
So
those
are
some
of
the
basic
we
can.
I'm
beth,
I
don't
know
if
we
have
any
more
data
than
on
these
slides,
but
if
there
is
anything
we're
happy
to
share
it.
D
F
I
think
this
next
slide
was
especially
interesting.
I'm
beth
I'm
going
to
let
you
speak
to
this
one
okay.
So
there
were.
D
A
series
of
just
different
questions,
for
example,
how
many
of
the
people
responding
have
any
kind
of
responsibility
for
contracts
and
out
of
the
that
20,
some
percent
that
responded
19
said
they
did.
How
many
have
how
many
need
additional
training
39
said?
They
still
need
training
and
so
on
down
the
list
procurement
cards
about
33
percent,
obviously
only
about
14
percent
have
received
procurement
training
in
the
last
18
months.
D
G
D
That
was
a
high
percentage,
70
percent
said
they
did.
Did
they
have
knowledge
of
fair
and
open
competition?
They
they
believe
they
understand
that
and
they're
following
those
practices.
That's
80
as
well
as
another
good
one
to
know,
I
think,
is
the
fact
of
how
many
have
knowledge
of
supporting
small
and
disadvantaged
businesses
and
what
goes
along
with
that.
D
They
believe
there's
about
74
75
that
understand
that
as
well,
and
then
we
get
into
the
nbe
sb
targets,
there's
a
48
on
percent
understanding
that
they
understand
those
targets
and
then
out
of
those
that
responded
about
34,
have
access
to
master
agreements.
So
those
were
the
the
answers
to
those
questions.
F
F
F
H
No,
no,
no!
That's
fine!
I
know
in
reference
to
the
training
one,
the
one
that
stuck
out
to
me
is
no:
normally
we
would
have
prior
to
covet.
We
will
have
an
annual
training
which
will
be
a
combination
of
purchasing
the
office
of
law
and
the
nbew
office.
But,
due
to
you
know
covet
we
didn't
have
it
during
march,
which
is
what
we
typically
do,
but
we
do
attend
on.
H
H
D
We
weren't
given
a
whole
lot
of
detail
other
than
sort
of
the
the
question
we
can
again
we're
happy
to
share
all
of
that
raw
data
with
you.
If
you'd
like
it.
H
Yeah,
I
would
like
to
see
it,
so
I
can
you
know
better,
you
know
understand
you
know
some
of
the
percentages
I
mean
some
of
them
were
good
again.
You
know
the
the
high
areas
is
reference
to
fair,
open
competition.
That
is
something
that
we
do.
You
know
go
over
do
in
our
annual
training,
as
well
as
providing
definition,
understanding
of
small
and
disadvantaged
businesses.
We
even
go
into
detail
on
how
to
use
the
mdot
directory
to
locate
those
type
of
businesses.
C
I
get
if
I
can
comment
down
here:
they're
interesting
numbers-
I
just
don't-
have
a
frame
of
reference
to
to
put
these
back
to
that
first
slide,
whereas
about
you
know,
the
dissatisfied
was
about
roughly
20
to
26
across
the
three
categories.
I
don't
know,
if
that's
good,
bad
or
indifferent,
I
mean
I
can
argue
it.
Both
ways
likewise
received
ethical
explanations
of
position.
70
sounds
good,
but
that
also
means
30
percent.
C
F
C
The
knowledge
of
that
mbe
at
48-
it's
it's,
doesn't
look
good
if
it's
across
the
board,
but
if
it's
100
of
the
people
who
deal
with
purchasing,
then
it's
great
so
yeah
I
will
I
mean
I
don't
I
don't
there's
no
reason
certain
people
need
to
know
that,
but
the
people
who
do
need
to
know
should
be
you
know,
98
or
99
or
100
percent,
that
that's
all
I'm
really
saying.
Thank
you.
There's.
A
G
There's
also
the
halo
effect
in
self-reporting
like
this,
so
you
have
to
take
it
with
a
certain
grain
of
salt,
but
it
would
be
useful
to
know
of
the
1562
responses
that
represents.
You
know
what
percentage
of
the
county
employees
did
they
come
from?
Can
we
identify
which
department
they
came
from
a
few?
More
of
that
kind
of
information
would
be
useful,
but
I
will
say
even
taking
this
or
even
sending
the
survey,
even
the
ones
who
didn't
fill
out
the
survey.
It's
another
communication
that
says
this
is
important.
A
I
have
the
questions
in
front
of
me
here,
but
this
ability
to
access
master
agreements
34
again
without
knowing
who
should
have
the
ability
and
whether
that
means
the
technical
ability,
the
legal
authority
or
any
sort
of
knowledge
that
there
are
master
agreements
out
there.
So
it's
it's
a
little
hard
to
sort
that
out.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
some
other
information
behind
this,
the
the
the
raw
numbers
or
some
contextual
information
that
might
help
us
sort
through
this
a
little
bit
as
we
as
we
do.
A
Take
it
with
a
grain
of
salt.
If
that
exists,
elizabeth
and
beth
would
be
helpful
to
have
that.
F
Sure
I
we
can
certainly
ask,
I
think
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
have
too
much
more
information
about
who
who's
specific
filled
it
out,
because
I
don't
believe
that
we
asked
globally.
Well,
we
did
ask
what
department,
but
we
don't
tie
what
department
they're
with
what
their
responses.
I
don't
think.
F
D
Right-
and
I
think
I
think
that's
where
this
gets
very
vague,
because
we
don't
know
out
of
the
people
that
responded,
what
cross
sector
that
was
across
the
whole
county,
what
their
overall
responsibilities
are,
and
I
think
that's
where
the
meaning
really
is
lacking
here,
but
we
can
we'll
circle
back
and
see
if
there's
any
other
identifiers
that
would
better
help
understand
it.
D
E
A
H
Most
of
those
who
have
access
to
advantage
would
have
some
sort
of
dealing
with
the
purchasing
department
because
you
kind
of
go
hands
to
hands.
I
don't
know
just
I.
F
Think
that's
a
good
idea
rose
and
I
I
say
that
because
when
I
look
when
you
see
the
next
data
set,
where
we
took
it
upon
ourselves,
not
going
through
the
consultants
to
do
the
vendor
survey
and
the
analysis
I
know
jasmine's
on.
Of
course,
I
it's
far
more
useful
and
I
I
mean
I
defer
to
phil,
but
I
I
do
think
there's
time
to
do
that.
F
H
If
you
know,
if
you
need
me
to
if
that
is
a
decision,
I
can,
we
can
pull
a
list
of
those
employees
who
have
advantage
assets,
and
then
we
can
just
target
that
group
for
email.
So.
F
D
L
A
F
E
G
Other
thing
I
would
suggest,
or
the
discussion
and
following
on
with
rose's
comments-
is
that
this
is
something
that
should
be
done
every
year,
both
as
part
of
the
messaging
about
the
importance
and
the
and
the
rules
and
regulations
about
procurement
and
also
what
the
resources
are
available
and
now
that
we
know
where
some
of
the
holes
are.
G
G
You
know
how
or
how
people's
knowledge
and
attitudes
changed
over
the
course
of
time.
F
Yeah
and
I'm
thinking
of
the
survey,
no,
no,
neither
so
I'm
sorry,
I'm
trying
to
get
back
to.
Let
me
share,
let
me
stop
sharing.
We
did
not.
I
mean
it's
part
of
so.
The
the
consultants
who
were
on
a
big
contract
were
doing
a
survey
anyway,
and
we
embedded
these
questions
in
so
no
and
then
what
you're
about
to
see
you
know
we
we
ever
all
of
you
and
rosa's
shop,
sent,
send
it
out
to
vendors
and
then
our
internal
data
analyst
did
the
work.
So
I
guess
no,
not
separately.
A
B
F
B
Trying
to
switch
to
a
different
mode
yeah
we
elizabeth
can
commiserate
because
in
when
it's
regular
webex
sharing
is
one
way
when
it's
right
like
this.
It's
another
way,
so
yeah
you'll
see
the
right
screen
all
right,
so
just
an
overview
as
a
reminder.
We
we
did
two
procurement
surveys.
The
link
went
out
to
well
over
5000
email
addresses.
B
We
did
two
links,
one
for
existing
vendors
and
the
other
one
for
potential
county
vendors
folks
had
to
self-select.
If
the
paragraph
was
like,
if
you've
never
done
business
click
here,
if
you
have
or
currently
doing,
business
click
there.
So
this
is
an
evaluation.
B
B
I
did
not
know
that
we
had
this
many
medical
services,
vendors
in
our
universe,
but
that
was
a
lot.
You
won't
be
shocked
that
it
was
I.t
and
construction
following
up.
B
Some
you'll
see
this:
they
perceive
that
the
process
favors
current
contractor.
So
there
is
some,
I
think,
communication
and
outreach.
We
need
to
do
second
and
third,
were
the
requirements
being
cumbersome
and
the
bidding
process.
B
So
most
were
not
aware
that
opportunities
available
online
and
sadly
60
percent,
did
not
know
we
had
an
nbwe
office,
so
outreach
that
we
could
be
doing.
There
is
clearly
clear.
B
Most
knew
that
we
did
assign
goals,
but
most
also
did
not
know
they
could
get
notifications
online.
So
there's
another
area
for
outreach.
B
This
is
just
more
about
what
we
have
online,
because
if
they
knew,
I
think
this
tracks,
people
didn't
know
we
posted
them
online.
So
obviously
they
didn't
know
that
you
could
see
where
the
solicitations
were,
but
most
the
vendors
didn't
know
about
emma.
So
that's
good
to
know.
B
Just
for
more
follow-up
about
potential
vendors
and
things
they
did
not
know
about,
so
most
of
these
people
have
not
been
to
a
meet
the
primes
event.
I
think
the
next
one
being
virtual
will
probably
be
really
helpful
because
they've
been
in
person
prior
and
we've
done
a
great
job.
I
think
throughout
the
pandemic
of
getting
new
people
engaged
through
virtual
environments,.
J
One
quick
thing
before
you
move
on
about
the
meet
the
prime
because
I
participate.
We
have
a
table
and
everything
and
what
what
I
noticed
in
the
beginning,
it
was
really
well
attended
and
I
could
see
where
in
the
last
couple
years,
though,
it
was
not
as
well
attended
and
even
though
you
had
so
many
contractors
from
the
maryland
virginia
area,
the
feedback
that
we
got
was
that
nothing
really
materialized.
J
B
J
L
B
It's
good
feedback,
so
we
know
our
oig
is
relatively
new
and
most
of
the
folks
did
not
know
that
pathways,
hopefully,
to
you
know,
report
fraud
and
waste.
B
So
just
a
summary
from
that,
so
we
realized
there's
a
lot
more
communication.
We
need
to
be
doing
to
potential
vendors
about
one
our
mbwe
office.
That
is
growing
too.
We
need
to
uplift.
I
guess
probably
our
online
presence
so
folks
know
where
to
register
to
get
solicitations
and
emma
is
a
great
way
to
pull
them
in
because
they're
already
familiar
with
it,
so
current
vendors
overwhelmingly
what
they
consider
the
process
easy
or
simple.
They
like
the
communication,
fair
and
timely.
B
I
think
that
was
really
really
good
in
terms
of
perception,
but
what
did
they
dislike?
The
nbewnb
percentages?
B
Third
was
the
advertising,
so
it's
challenging
that
on
one
hand
we
we
are
well
aware
of
a
gap
in
having
minority
and
women
owned
businesses
in
our
network,
but
it
seems
like
the
crimes,
consider
the
goals
unattainable.
So
there's
a
disconnect.
There
there's
also
still
a
mention
of
favoritism
or
a
perception
of
favoritism,
so
we
have
once
again
a
image
issue
that
we
need
to
address,
so
we
had
forty
percent
with
providers
over
you
know
fifty
percent
were
business
owners.
B
People
also,
you
know,
could
be
in
multiple
categories,
so
this
is
open,
exceeds
a
hundred
percent
less
than
twenty
were
in
bwe,
but
I
still
think
that's
a
good
percentage
of
folks
that
replied.
B
B
The
purchasing
staff
is
responsive
as
well
as
the
agency
staff,
so
I
think
that's
really
great
for
showing
how
busy
and
how
many
contracts
we
do
and
the
perceptions
that
we
are
counteracting
so
I'll
end
with
that
one.
This
was
the
analysis
we
did
based
on
the
questions
you
all
developed,
so
I
sent
it
around.
I
also
put
it
in
sharepoint,
for
you
all
to
review.
D
F
Is
what
it
shows
is
external
versus
internal
resources?
So
if
we
go
the
route
that
rose,
suggested
and
and
take
the
survey,
questions
for
employees
and
target
it
as
an
internal
matter
just
to
those
who
are
really
involved
in
the
procurement
process
will
know
who
we're
hearing
from
and
then
the
same
bc.
Stat
team
that
works
for
me
will
do
the
analysis
and
I
think,
we'll
get
a
better
read
and
we'll
we'll
have
time
to
do
that.
F
G
Have
a
question
elizabeth
on
that,
because
one
of
our
concerns
has
been
that
there
are
people
in
the
county
who
are
doing
procurement
that
aren't
taking
the
training
at
all
and
so
how
to
incorporate
those
people
in
this
second
survey.
F
H
I
need
survey
people
yeah,
I
I
would
say
those
folks
will
be
department
head
folks.
They
don't
really
have
access
to
advantage
because
you
know
advantage
is
you
know
pretty
much
more
like
a
data
entry
type
system?
You
know
for
to
start
the
procurement
process,
but
you
know
most
of
the
you
know.
Department
hands
do
have
some
responsibility,
especially
when
it
comes
to
you
know,
putting
together
the
specifications,
the
scope
of
services
and
yes,
at
some
point
approving
you
know
the
requisition
or
or
the
delivery
order.
H
F
H
Yeah,
I
didn't
yeah
normally
when
we
try
to
get
the
whole
group,
we
put
the
responsibility
on
the
department.
Heads
to
you
know,
distribute
to
the
appropriate
folks
in
their
department,
so
that
may
be
a
way
to
go.
F
K
H
K
H
A
C
Dan
all
this
reminds
me
of
one
one
topic:
I
left
out
of
the
cooperative
purchasing
discussion
and
it
has
some
relevance
to
everything
else
that's
coming
in,
and
that
is
that
when
we
have
when
we're
dealing
with
a
larger
national
entity
or
a
regional
entity,
the
standards
for
sustainability,
minority
women,
business
and
so
forth
may
be
different
in
those
entities
or
non-existent,
potentially
than
than
what
we
have,
and
so
one
of
the
other
things-
and
I
remember
I
said
three
things
and
I
got
two
out
and
I
blanked
on
the
third.
C
D
C
But
you
shouldn't
know
so
doing
a
larger
entity
for
purchasing
something
and
there's
and
there's
no
mbe
requirement
may
cause
us
to
think
twice
about
it
or
no
sustainability
requirement
or
different
than
ours.
But
we
ought
to
know
those
things
on
these
larger
purchases.
So
the
the
concept,
though,
is
that
if
doing
consortium
buyings
at
least
that
and
and
the
other
relevant
questions
that
we've
gone
over
here,
don't
need
to
list
them
all
should
be
asked
and
be
part
of
the
consideration,
not
a
veto,
not
a
stop,
but
at
least
understood.
A
That's
a
great
point,
great
point:
okay,
anything
else
on
surveys
very
helpful.
Have
that
information
and
again
I
think
everybody
who
works
so
hard
on
putting
questions
together
and
and
everybody
at
the
county,
who's
helped
pull
the
information
together.
It's
lots
a
lot
of
things
to
think
about.
I
Because
I'm
looking
at
the
survey
numbers-
and
I
know
you
started
out
by
saying
jasmine-
there
were
approximately
5
000
people
on
distribution
list.
But
if,
if
I'm
looking
at
these
numbers,
only
117
of
carrot,
vendors
and
80,
some,
you
know
interested
parties
who
are
not
current
vendors.
I
I
A
Well,
that's
a
that's
a
great
segue
to
the
last
item,
which
is
to
e,
which
is
the
planning
for
the
september
9
public
input
meeting,
because
maybe
scott
some
of
those
vendors
will
show
up
for
that.
I
had
a
couple
of
questions
which
I'll
ask
elizabeth
and
and
jasmine
or
anyone
else
from
the
county.
Who
has
the
information
to
fill
us
in
on
in
terms
of.
A
A
Signed
in
on
and
ready
to
go
by
415
we
can
cover
any
last-minute
things,
logistical
items
or
the
like,
so
that
when
we're
ready
to
go,
live
at
4,
30
we're
all
present
and
accounted
for.
That
was
one.
That
was
one
item,
but
let
me
elizabeth
or
jasmine-
and
we,
where
do
we
stand
in
terms
of
invites,
are
people
signed
up?
Do
they
need
to
sign
up?
What's
the
audio
and
or
visual
aspect
of
it?
For
those
who
are
coming
to
speak
to
us
anything
else,
you
can
share.
B
Yeah,
so
that's
about
rolling,
with
working
with
stops,
declined
to
execute
this
event.
Just
do
some
follow-up
with
him
in
terms
of
outreach,
and
I
wanted
to
vet
this
with
the
group
before
I
proceeded
ahead,
so
we
could
do
a
similar
email
blast
and
I
can
work
with
our
comm
side
to
develop
a
flyer
and
then
potentially
post
on
our
social
pages
but
I'll.
If
that's
fine
with
you
all,
I
I'm
happy
to
move
that
route.
B
J
That
would
be
perfect
directly.
A
Yeah
pete
anybody
any
and
organizations
you're
aware
of
that.
We
ought
to
be
directing
this
to.
E
Yeah
we
used
to
have
a
baltimore
county
contractors
association,
but
that
doesn't
exist
anymore.
Basically,
we
ran
out
of
topics
to
complain
about
everything
seemed
to
be
working
pretty
good
and
we
didn't
it
disbanded
two
years
ago,
so
I'm
not
sure
really
who
we
could
send
it
to.
E
Probably
the
utility
maryland
utility
contract
utility
contractors
of
maryland
they're
very
involved
in
here
in
baltimore
county,
because
there's
a
lot
of
utility
contracts
that
are
being
left
so
that
that
would
be
the
best
utility
contractors
of.
B
A
Let
me
ask
you
a
favor
jasmine.
Would
you,
either
later
today
or
tomorrow,
send
everybody
all
the
commissioners
an
email
just
reminding
them
of
this?
Ask
so
that
we
all
give
it
some
thought
and
get
something
back
to
you
promptly.
A
G
I'll
also
add
and
I'll
send
this
to
you
but
steve.
You
may
have
something
as
well:
the
maryland
society
of
professional
engineers
and
the
local
chapter
of
aia.
L
G
H
L
H
Matt
asks
what
advertising
platform
will
be
used
to.
H
Get
the
invite
out
good
old
email,
okay,
I
would
just
you
know
suggest,
because
we've
talked
about
this
is
maybe
reaching
out
to
someone
from
the
state
in
reference
to
email
and
marketplace
advantage.
H
You
know,
maybe
they
have
some
sort
of
notification
platform.
You
know,
as
the
vendors
log
in
it
can
be
right
there
on
there
for,
on
the
first
page,.
A
Great
suggestion,
thank
you,
and
so
the
idea,
I
believe,
is
that
those
people
who
come
up
to
speak
will
be
given
two
minutes.
A
B
Yes,
we
can
ask
for
pre-registration
with
the
sign
up.
B
A
C
Unless
I
missed
it,
could
you
send
out
the
invitation,
so
we
can
pour
it
out
forward
to
my
local
chamber
of
commerce.
B
Yep,
hopefully
I
can
have
it
to
you
at
the
top
of
the
week,
because
what
I
want
is
to
make
it
a
nice
flyer,
a
pdf,
but
I
need
to
just
double
check
on
the
oit
side
that
I
have
the
right
information.
B
A
Three
minutes
it
is
okay,
perfect,
all
right
like
that,
brings
us
to
the
end
of
the
agenda
and
it
looks
like
we
have
a
minute
left,
but
obviously
we
can
go
on
longer,
if
need
be
anything
else
for
the
good
of
the
order.
Anyone.
C
I
think
our
general
consensus
was
we
would
stay
with
the
general
statements
that
we
made
and,
after
this
discussion
add
her
comments
along
with
others,
into
sort
of
that
folder
of
additional
stuff.
Her
outline
was
pretty
much
what
the
county
is
doing
now,
whereas
we
felt
also
that
that
was
good,
but
there
were
other
things
that
could
be
added
and
sort
of
a
broader
vision
would
be
in
the
code.
So
that's
that's
where
we're
at
with
that.
C
A
No,
I
was
going
to
say
what
I
would
suggest.
Thank
you
dan
in
your
group.
Whatever
you
want
to
write
up,
let's
write
it
up
as
soon
as
we
have
it,
then
we
can
figure
out
how
we
use
it.
I'm
not
trying
anybody
it
up
if
we
use
it,
but
let's
just
the
sooner,
we
can
be
making
those
kinds
of
decisions.
C
I
I'm
not
sure
I
I
wanted
to
raise
this
early,
but
I
wasn't
sure
that
it
fit
early
in
our
discussions
and
also
in
dr
ramsey's
presentation.
I
It
doesn't
appear
that
that
made
it
into
the
slides
that
dr
ramsey
presented.
At
least
you
know
she
didn't
talk
about
that
and
it
didn't
seem
to
make
it
into
the
slides.
It
seems
to
me
that
that
is
still
an
important
thing.
It
also
didn't
make
it
into
our
interim
report,
but
that
mbe
and
meeting
nbc
goals
has
to
be
a
shared
responsibility.
I
Among,
in
my
mind,
I
think
our
mbe
committee
talked
about
that
and
I
think
we
were
waiting
to
see
if
it
was
going
to
be
in
dr
ramsey's
report
before
we
made
any
recommendations.
I
don't
want
to
speak
from
my
colleagues
in
the
nbeps,
but
I
do
think
it's
important
and
my
sense
is:
it
should
be
in
there
somewhere
before
we
wrap
this
up.
I
A
Sure
I
understood
and
and
same
same
thing
I
said
to
dan.
You
know
please
draft
something
up
the
other
thing,
I'll
I'll
say
and
I'm
sure
everybody
remembers,
but
let
me
just
say
it:
we
can
get
additional
time
or
the
subcommittee
when
I
say
we,
the
whole
commission
or
the
subcommittee
can
get
additional
time
with
dr
ramsey.
So
to
that
point
scott,
if
there's
some
some
input
or
some
discussion
or
some
consultation,
you
guys
would
like
to
have
to
inform
whatever
you
draft
to
have
that
with
her.
That
can
be
arranged.
A
F
In
fact,
the
ceo
would
very
much
like
for
us
to
use
the
hours
that
we
asked,
I
think,
is
as
many
as
10..
So
we
should
definitely
schedule
that,
and
I
do
want
to
chime
in
that
what
jasmine
said
at
the
outset
of
the
prior
discussion,
we
have
found
that
if
there
are
some
specific
invitations
for
people
to
present,
it
just
starts
to
frame
the
conversation,
and
I
think
if
we
could
do
that
as
well
as
sort
of
the
broader
solicitation
for
speakers
on
the
ninth,
both
together
would
make
for
a
very
helpful
meeting.
G
I
have
a
question
elizabeth.
I
thought
that
the
county
executive
was
going
to
be
scheduling,
an
announcement
related
to
new
goals,
changes
and
goals,
etc.
That
would
derive
that
that
the
county
would
be
deriving
from
dr
ramsey's
study,
and
so
that's
one
reason
why
we
hadn't
tried
to
frame
it
before
am
I
misremembering.
F
I'm
not
sure
the
timing
of
that
and
I
think
jasmine.
We
need
to
check
back
with
ceviche
and
the
cao,
because
I
know
there's
some
more
additional
time
on
that
contract,
not
just
for
the
commission
and
it
may
feed
into
what
you're
referring
to
peta.
So
we
need
to
double
back
on
what
the
plan
is
for
the
additional
work
with
dr
ramsey
in
total,
not
just
for
the
commission
and
then
we
can
get
back
to
you,
but
we
are
expected
to
engage.
A
We
could
we
could,
although
she
dr
ramsey,
clearly
has
other
excellent
talents.
Maybe
she'd
like
to
help
us
copy
edit,
the
report,
if
we
need
it
so,
let's
anyway,
let's
let's
try
to
use
her
substantively
because
it's
a
great
resource,
okay,
anything
else,
anybody
all
right!
Well
with
that,
I
will
say
we
are
adjourned,
see
you
on
the
ninth.
Thank
you
all
again,
very
much
a
pleasure
and
privilege
to
serve
with
you.
Take
care.