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A
Okay,
if
not,
would
someone
like,
would
a
panel
member
like
to
make
a
motion
to
accept
the
minutes
as
circulated.
B
A
Great
thank
you
fran
and
with
that
the
motion.
Well,
let's
sorry!
Second,
I
guess
we
do
need
to
vote
sorry.
So
all
in
favor
say
aye.
A
Okay,
that's
unanimous,
and
the
motion
carries
so
with
that.
We
will
read
the
opening
statement
and
bear
with
us
as
we
go
through
this.
This
lays
out
what
the
drp
is
charged
with
doing,
as
well
as
some
considerations
for
those
attending
so
title,
4,
subtitle,
2,
part,
1,
sections,
32-4-203
and
32-4-1
established
the
design
review
panel.
The
drp
was
established
to
encourage
design
excellence
and
she'll
act
in
a
consulting
and
advisory
capacity
to
the
agents
agencies
involved
in
the
process
for
reviewing
development
plans.
A
The
objectives
for
the
drp's
assessment
include
spatial
visual,
functional
relationships
to
the
topography,
the
natural
and
built
features
of
the
site,
as
well
as
the
surrounding
features
of
the
site.
Visual
and
functional
integration
of
streetscapes,
pedestrian
pathways,
playgrounds,
recreational
amenities
and
parks
streets
and
that
streets
and
sidewalks
are
laid
out
in
a
safe
and
convenient
manner
and
parking
is
a
positive
design
element.
A
A
The
panel
consists
of
nine
members
all
are
professionals
with
practical
knowledge
in
the
matters
of
design.
For
the
purposes
of
making
recommendations
on
a
particular
project,
three
members
shall
constitute
a
quorum.
The
attendance
and
comments
of
each
member
shall
be
recorded
in
the
minutes,
which
shall
be
an
open
record
and
available
along
with
all
documents
submitted
to
the
panel
for
inspection
and
copying
by
the
public.
There
will
be
an
opportunity
for
the
community
to
offer
comments
and
suggestions
at
the
conclusion
of
the
applicant's
presentation.
A
These
comments
will
also
be
included
in
the
written
record
of
the
meeting
when
a
speaker
is
called
up
to
speak.
Please
keep
your
comments
focused
on
design
perspectives
within
your
allotted
two
minutes
time.
If
you're
speaking
on
behalf
of
a
community
group,
you
will
get
five
minutes
at
the
conclusion
of
the
meeting.
The
department
of
planning
will
sum
up.
The
recommendations
of
the
panel
before
a
motion
for
vote
is
suggested.
A
Thank
you
for
bearing
with
that
and
then
we'll
move
back
to
tonight's
agenda,
which
is
the
following
items
for
discussion.
We'll
start
with
904
applewood
lane
the
nest
residence
item
number
two
will
be
1510,
carrollton
avenue,
the
noli
residence
and
finally
number
three
607
frederick
road
in
the
catonsville
commercial
review
area.
F
Thank
you
so
much
cecily,
thank
you!
Drp
panelists
and
everyone
here
tonight,
who's
gathered
together
to
see
our
new
house
presenting
presenting
our
new
design
for
the
904
applewood
lane
property.
I'm
sure
that
the
drp
is
maybe
tired
of
hearing
this
property's
name-
and
this
is
the
I
think,
the
sixth
or
seventh
drp
submission
for
this
property,
but
I
think
this
one's
gonna
stick.
This
is
gonna,
be
the
final
one.
You
never
have
to
see
this
property
again.
F
F
F
This
shows
the
existing
site,
as
it
is
right
now
dealing
with
the
existing
trees
that
are
on
the
property
and
the
couple
that
we're
proposing
to
have
removed
as
to
be
as
required
by
our
design.
All
those
trees
that
will
be
removed
will
be
replaced
and
kind
by
many
new
ones,
so
you'll
see
that
in
the
landscape
plan,
but
you'll
see
whatever
we
take
out
and
put
a
lot
more
back
in
next
slide.
F
Please
this
shows
our
proposed
site
plan
house
position,
location
relative
to
the
street
approximate
grades
as
proposing
them
and
retaining
walls
and
setbacks
from
the
previous
approved
design.
The
setbacks
were
on
the
other
side,
so
we
flipped
it
so
now
one
side
has
the
smaller
setback.
This
the
other
side
has
a
larger
setback,
and
you
know
whole
landscape
plan
to
will
accommodate
that.
F
Basically,
leveling
out
the
whole
backyard
using
a
lot
of
the
natural
grades
in
the
front
of
the
site
and
taking
advantage
of
the
higher
grades
in
the
rear
of
the
site,
using
that
higher,
retaining
higher
grade
at
the
very
back
of
the
site,
with
retaining
walls
to
create
a
nice
level
backyard
and
to
improve
the
drainage
on
the
existing
site,
as
this
site
has
historically
had
drainage
problems,
as
we
have
discussed
with
the
neighbors
around
the
property
over
time,
we
have
been
working
closely
with
all
the
neighbors
to
try
to
develop
a
plan
so
that
they
are
happy
with
what
we
are
proposing
and
that
it
will
only
improve
the
conditions
on
their
site,
as
as,
regarding
drainage
and
we'll
be
coordinating
all
things
that
relate
to
how
it
affects
their
property,
one
on
adjacent
properties,
houses
very
close,
we'll
be
working
in
coordination
with
them
to
do,
screening
that
they
they
like
and
also
reinstalling
their
fence.
F
That
was
on
our
on
the
904
woodland
property,
but
we'll
be
working
with
them
to
install
it
appropriately
between
the
two
properties.
You
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
I
think,
oh
before
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
I'll
go
right
back
real
quick.
F
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
one
thing,
so
I
highlighted
in
purple
basically
that
some
big
changes
from
the
original
design,
one
of
the
big
changes-
was
that
the
main
mass
of
the
house
is
now
set
back
further
from
the
street,
giving
more
more
privacy
and
not
being
so
such
a
large
mass
on
the
front
of
the
street.
F
It
went
from
basically
being
about
90
feet
from
the
street
on
the
main
mass,
the
house
to
be
about
118
feet,
the
main
mass
of
the
house
and
the
garage
being
changing
from
a
detached
rear
yard
garage
to
a
front
yard
position.
You
know-
and
you
know
that's-
that
works
really
well
with
the
mask
of
the
house.
You'll
see
within
the
elevations
of
the
renderings
that
it's,
the
masking
is
broken
up
appropriately
to
fit
in
the
site
nicely
and
doesn't
the
front-facing
garage?
Isn't
you
know
overbearing
on
the
side
at
all?
F
And
here
is
our
you
know:
schematic
primary
light
landscape
plan
done
by
baron's,
home
design,
landscape
architecture,
interior
design,
stuart
artel,
designed
this.
It's
very,
very
nice
takes
advantage
of
these
sting
grades
very
nicely,
incorporates
retaining
walls
around
the
property
to
help
mitigate,
take
advantage
of
the
existing
grading
to
get
nice
level
yards,
but
also
help
with
the
drainage
issues
on
this
site
and
they'll
be
working
in
close
coordination
with
both
neighbors
on
both
sides
of
the
property
to
get
that
all
installed.
F
So
you
know,
as
you
can
see,
we're
planting
a
lot
of
native
trees
and
plants
and
shrubs-
and
this
is
even
just
preliminary-
I
mean
there
will
be
a
final
landscape
plan
that
it
probably
has
even
more
detail
than
this.
But
this
is,
I
think,
sufficient
more
than
sufficient
enough
for
the
drp.
F
Okay,
I
think
we
can
move
the
next
slide.
So
here's
that
trend
rendering
again
it's
you
know
it's
pretty
nice.
You
can
move
the
next
slide.
F
This
is
a
nice.
You
know
3d
model
rendering
of
the
house,
giving
you
a
good
example
of
how
the
house
is
raised
at
the
raised
above
the
front
natural
low
grade,
and
then
it's
in
the
back,
it's
level
pretty
much
step
out
about
a
foot
and
a
half
down,
and
that's
that
rear
rendering.
So
it's
you
know
lower
grade
in
the
front,
naturally
higher
grade
higher
grade
in
the
rear.
F
So
it
the
massing
is
mostly
it
has.
It
has
a
second
floor
mass.
That's,
you
know,
basically
the
same
height
as
the
previous
approved
design
for
this
property,
but
most
of
the
second
form
the
mass
is
the
single
story,
at
least
on
one
wing
and
on
the
garage
wing,
and
one
wing
of
the
second
floor
is
lower
than
the
main
mass.
It's
I
think
it's
broken
up
for
very
appropriately
for
the
site.
You
know
being
kind
of
a
narrow
and
long
sight.
F
Higher
grid
in
the
rear,
in
the
retaining
walls
along
the
edge
of
the
property
in
the
one
big
level
yard
and
the
this
one
one
story
massing
for
the
whole
master
wing
on
that
left:
side
of
the
rendering
and
the
lower
second
floor
massing
on
the
right
side.
So
it
definitely
doesn't
it
isn't.
As
large
and
massive
as
the
previous
house
that
we
had
approved
for
this
property,
I
think
it's
much
more
appropriately
scaled.
F
You
can
go
next
slide
here.
Just
shows
a
general
section
through
the
whole
site,
showing
the
front
of
the
property,
the
rear
of
the
property,
the
natural
grade
being
about
417
at
the
very
front
of
the
property
right
where
the
house
is,
where
you
step
up
to
stairs
421
rare
yard,
about
425.5
at
the
back
of
the
yard,
425
at
the
front
of
the
yard
on
the
rear
and
430
at
the
top
of
the
retaining
wall,
and
then
all
the
way
back
to
the
436
natural
grade.
F
The
other
side
section
is
not
that
interesting.
It's
just
a
cut
straight
to
the
house
showing
to
the
level
423
grade
424
grade
on
both
sides.
That's
kind
of
just
the
natural
grade
that
it
happens
as
a
result
of
having
the
rear
yard
at
one
level
in
the
front
yard,
it'll,
lower
them
and
then
there's
also
retaining
wall
detail,
which
is
how
we
would
do
the
retaining
walls
for
the
site
showing
the
stone,
veneer
and
stone
cap
and
here's
yeah.
You
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
F
Yep,
here's
the
front
elevation
listing
all
the
materials
we're
taking
a
combination
of,
I
would
say,
modern
kind
of
barn
style,
materials,
combining
lap,
siding
and
vertical
siding,
vertical,
scored,
siding
and
kind
of
a
and
for
like
having
a
centered
mass
tower
that
has
a
nice
unique,
aesthetic
finish
with
this
sort
of
vertical
metal,
siding
it's
like
a
board
and
batten
panel.
F
So
the
colors
are,
you
know
a
nice,
medium
gray,
so
they'll
all
blend
together.
Well-
and
you
know
the
trim
work
is
all
white
and
will
look
very
nice
in
terms
of
the
medium
gray
tones
with
the
light
gray
for
the
roof.
F
Nothing
crazy,
exciting,
but
I
think
it
all
works
together.
Well,
for
the
the
kind
of
the
language
of
this
house
and
the
retaining
walls
will
be
brick,
but
the
concrete
will
be
the
foundry
foundation
will
be
brick.
Pattern
form
work
you
know
painted
so
that
you
know
that's
cost
savings,
but
it's
also.
You
know
it
still
looks
very
nice
when
it's
painted.
F
F
F
And
there's
the
rear
of
the
house
showing
our
shed
dormers
and
large
glass
to
let
as
much
light
into
the
living
space
possible
in
the
master
bedroom
and
a
screen
porch
off
the
rear
as
well.
It's
a
very
appropriately
sized
house
for
this
family
they're
very
happy
with
it.
It's
been
a
labor
of
love
coordination,
all
coordinating
all
this,
this
this
whole
design
and
then
the
layout
you'll,
see
next
in
the
floor
plans
yeah.
F
Now
here's
a
basically
preliminary
basement
plan.
You
know
that
that
might
change
a
little
bit,
but
generally,
this
is
what
we
would
like
to
do
in
the
basement.
It's
you
know:
recreation
area,
storage,
sitting,
room,
little
game
area,
little
bath,
guest
bath,
guest
bedroom
and
window
wells
to
let
it
lighten
down
the
basement.
F
F
Symmetry
is
very
important
to
the
mess.
We
always
try
to
work
that,
through
with
this
design,
master
first
floor,
master
wing,
large,
rear
patio,
large
real
screen
porch,
you
know
generous
office
and
pantry
leading
up
to
you,
know:
mud
entry
and
two
car.
It's
a
it's
a
very
it's
a
definitely
labor
lab.
It
worked.
It
worked
out
very
nicely,
go
to
the
next
slide
and
then
the
second
floor
is
just
the
three
bedrooms,
for
you
know
the
mess
children
they
you
know
the
homework
room.
F
F
The
actual
finish
four
for
the
main
floor
for
the
previous
design
was
about
4
263
square
feet.
So
went
down
significantly,
partly
as
a
cost
savings
and
just
realizing
it's
just
that
they
didn't
need
that
much
space
just
more
appropriate
for
the
the
home,
so
that
it's
much
more
appropriate
to
square
footage
for
the
site
so
reduced
down
from
4263
to
2968.
F
F
Here's
our
material
sheet
talking
about
the
brick
pattern
painted
formwork,
the
vertical
rustic
v,
rusty
boral,
siding
combined
with
horizontal
lap,
siding
by
borel,
and
the
two
inch
cut
stone,
vernier,
ramon
brown,
roughly
rectangular
stones,
very
popular
for
the
retaining
walls.
At
least
it's
a
stone.
We've
used
a
lot
recently:
it's
very
aesthetically
pleasing
stone
and
it's
kind
of
neutral
in
its
tones
and
the
standing
roof
metal
roof.
F
You
know
kind
of
a
light,
lighter
medium
tone,
gray,
anderson
face
series,
windows,
black
clad,
solid
cellular
pvc
white
and
exterior
flood
lights
and
different,
probably
different,
different
decorative
lights
as
well,
but
preliminarily
I
haven't
probably
haven't
determined
that
yet
the
ultra
batten
wall
panel,
bridger
steel,
siding
for
the
main
tower
element,
the
front
kind
of
stand
it
out.
It's
like
a
board
and
patent
and-
and
that
would
be
like
a
charcoal
kind
of
gray,
charred
wood,
texture
and
then
the
clopay
doors,
the
grain
harbor
style
to
match
the
elevations.
F
F
Let
me
rush
through
that
that
that
basically
covers
everything
and,
like
I
said
it
was
a
you
know,
it's
a
labor
between
me
and
this,
mr
mrs
mess
to
you
know,
forget
a
house
that
works
for
their
site
appropriately
for
the
scale
and
massing
of
that
site.
It
doesn't
feel
overbearing
on
the
community
neighbors
at
all,
and
it
definitely
accomplishes
everything
they
want
in
terms
of
their
layout
and
their
finishes
and
their
preferences,
and
that
that's
pretty
much
it.
Thank
you
for
letting
me
present.
It.
A
Thank
you,
robert
and
then
I'll
turn
to
marta
and
ask
if
there
are
any
speakers
from
the
public
who
are
signed
up.
H
I
don't
receive
any
messages
about
public
just
and
brad.
Let
me
check
with
that.
E
Yeah
there's
no
one
signed
up
in
the
chat.
A
Thank
you
hold
off
and
reading
that
statement,
then.
Okay,
very
good.
So
I'd
like
to
open
up
the
floor
to
the
panel
members
and
starting
with
fran
anderson.
If
you'd
like
to
lead
us
off.
F
D
I'm
not
right
good,
I
guess
you,
I
guess
you
worn
down
all
the
neighbors,
so
they
didn't
bother
now.
F
We
just
been
taking
a
lot
of
time
to
kind
of
communicate
and
make
sure
they're
happy
with
everything
and
that
we've
been
very
forthcoming
about
how
the
how
we're
planning
it
all
out
and
if
it's
anything
any
of
the
neighbors
that
were
rarely
directly
affected.
You
know
the
ones
on
either
side
they
that
we
would
coordinate
all
the
installments
of
the
retaining
walls
and
landscaping
with
them.
So
that
they'd
be
happy
with
what
we've
done
right
right.
D
And
I
don't
have
anything
from
the
neighborhood
association
saying
that
there
was
any
issues
that
were
raised
to
them.
So
that's
good.
You
know.
C
D
Honestly,
I
I
love
almost
everything
he
did
in
architectural
styles
aside,
I'm
talking
about.
If
I
had
concerns
of
the
previous
house,
it
was
front
set
back.
It
was
right
side
setback,
both
of
which
you've
increased,
which
I
think
yeah.
I
think
that's
terrific.
I
even
like
the
fact
that
you
moved
the
the
screen
porch
or
what
was
the
sun
room
from
next
to
the
master
bedroom
to
the
other
side
of
the
house,
yeah
house
too,.
C
D
It
helps
to
flow.
You
know,
I
I
like
the
the
garage
around
back,
but
the
fact
that
you
don't
have
so
much.
You
know
impervious
surface
now
with
the
garage,
the
driveway
that
went
around
the
side
to
the
back.
This
is
great.
You
know,
I
would
say
it
looks
like
the
landscape
plan
is
going
to
do
a
nice
job
kind
of
hiding
that
garage
a
little
bit.
I
think
it
detracts
a
little
bit
from
the
front,
but
so.
D
Great
most
of
what
you
did,
I
took
a
question
for
you
and
it's
not
like
a
comment
or
a
criticism
in
in
terms
of
the
color
selection.
You
know
when
you
have,
you
know
very
distinct,
contrasting
colors.
Was
it
as
simple.
As
you
know,
look
if
the
if
the
structure
is
oriented,
you
know
sort
of
this
way
and
the
roof
line.
Is
this
way
we're
going
to
go
with
the
darker
color
and
if
it's
turned
right
was
there?
Was
there
a
rhyme
or
reason
to
the
to
the
to
the
color
selection
logic
to
it.
F
Well,
I
I
I
mean
I,
I
think
that
this
kind
of
the
dark
colors
with
the
main
front
gable,
masking's,
the
one
that
project
out
forward
is
a
kind
of
a
way
of
standing
out
from
the
kind
of
recessed.
You
know
lighter
colored
aspects
of
it.
I
I
think
it
kind
of
produces
a
nice
little
balanced
effect
like
an
artboard
like
balanced
picture.
D
F
Those
elements
that
project
forward
kind
of
stand
out
and
pop
a
little
bit
more
and
get
a
little
bit
more
interest
to
them.
So
they're,
not
just
some
sort
of
off-white
or
just
whites,
they
all
blend
together.
They
could
just
all
be
the
same
color,
but
I
think
it
helps
kind
of
stand
out.
Those
material
differences
between
it
a
little
bit
as
well.
F
This
was
the
color
the
way
that
the
color
schemes
kind
of
worked
out
by
the
mess,
their
preference,
and
so
it
might
change
a
little
bit
here
and
by
the
end,
tinkering
here
and
there.
But
I
don't
think
it's
gonna
change
significantly
after
this.
D
Right,
I
was
just
curious
and
I
think
you
know
it's
so
such
a
significant
part
of
the
the
the
house
to
know
that
it's
the
final,
it's
good.
I
really
don't
have
any
other
comments.
I
think
you
guys
did
a
really
nice
job
and
then
I
like
the
changes
in
scale
and
mass
and
I
like
the
setback
changes,
so
I
don't
have
anything
else.
Thank
you
for
having
me.
E
Thank
you
friend,
we'll
move
to
raj
sharma
next.
A
J
A
Then
joe,
you
are
up
next.
B
I
concur
with
mr
sharma,
I
think
it's
well
executed
and
I
have
no
further
comments.
The
best
of
luck
with
it.
Thank
you.
A
Okay
and
then
lastly,
I
don't
think
I
see
kelly
that
kelly
has
joined
us.
Am
I
correct
on
that?
I
don't
think
so.
Sorry,
okay,
so
I'll,
just
kind
of
state
a
couple
of
things-
and
I
do
have
one
quick
question.
I
do
agree
with
my
colleagues.
The
small
massing
at
the
front
responds
well
to
the
narrow
deep
lot.
So
I
think
that
has
improved
and
echo
the
response
to
the
driveway.
A
Oh,
you
know
never,
love
a
front
loaded.
This
nice
side,
loaded
response
to
you
know
a
a
narrow,
deep
lot
that
has
access
only
from
the
front.
I
think
it
solved
a
few
problems.
I
think
that
was
good.
I
liked
your
explanation
of
the
gable
forward
being
the
dark
and
the
gable
side
being
the
light.
It's
good
to
hear
that
explanation.
A
I
think
that's
fairly
rigorously
applied,
so
I
think
that's
good
and
also
give
you
points
for
the
band
board
with
the
cell
element.
That
is
very
nicely
detailed
at
the
base
of
the
wall.
A
F
I
think
the
yeah,
I
think,
that
the
the
actual
original
site
itself
has
retaining
stone,
retaining
walls
on
it,
the
property,
so
the
ones
that
wrap
the
property,
the
ones
that
round
the
very
outside
bounding,
the
ones
that
kind
of
make
the
edge
of
the
property
in
the
back
of
the
yard
would
be
the
stone
and
the
ones
that
are
the
brick
are
the
ones
that
are
just
directly
connected
to
the
house,
like
those
planting
retaining
walls
that
are,
at
the
very
front,
those
ones
directly
connect
to
the
house,
so
they
kind
of
sort
of
have
to
be
prick
in
their
nature,
but
the
ones
that
surround
the
property
because
they
will
also
be
you
know,
aesthetically
viewed
by
neighbors,
and
you
know,
I
think
it
also
sort
of
relates
back
to
the
traditional
landscape
walls
of
the
of
the
property.
F
A
K
F
You
know
cut
to
like
two
or
three
inch
thickness
and
applied
mortar
directly
to
the
foundation
to
the
actual
retaining
wall
structure.
A
Okay
and
then
the
last
question
in
the
brick
portions-
and
it
shows
up
well
in
this
image
in
the
rendering.
So
I
so
I
understand
that
explanation,
things
that
attach
to
the
foundation
walls
are
going
to
be
brick,
retaining
walls
for
sight
walls,
I'm
just
curious
about
the
color
again.
So
I
think
I
see-
or
maybe
it
varies
depending
on
what
element
of
the
house
that
the
foundation
walls
of
the
house
or
the
the
pattern
brick
and
painted
dark
yeah.
F
I
F
A
Mean
I
think,
the
transit.
You
know
that
you
could,
you
might
come
into
like
transitions
between
those
two
elements
and
just
have
a
you
know
have
to
have
a
joint
line.
I
think
that'll
be
fine.
I
do
think
this
is
the
right
choice
looking
at
it
and
rendering
certainly
helps
make
that
decision
it
elongates
or
makes
taller
that
front
facade
as
well
as
correlates
to
the
the
main
massing
of
the
house.
So
I
think
that's
all
good.
So
with
that,
I
don't
have
any
other
comments.
A
It
looks
like
a
lovely
house
and
well
detailed.
So
with
that,
let
me
well
I
I
don't
know
if
you
have
any
concluding
of
the
presenters
have
any
concluding
before
we
move
to
a
motion,
but
or
is
there
anything
that
you
would
like
to
say
in
response
for
comments
or
final
thoughts
before
we
move
to
motion.
J
A
Yeah,
thank
you
and
thanks
for
the
effort
and
enjoy
the
house.
A
Hi
so
the
motion
carries
and
the
project
is
approved.
Thank
you
very
much.
Presenters
appreciate
your
time
as
well.
A
Very
good,
and
with
that
we'll
speed
right
along
to
item
two,
which
is
the
1510
carrollton
avenue,
the
noli
residence
and
presenters.
If
you
are
ready,
the
floor
is
yours:.
L
Okay,
this
is
charles
alexander,
forgive
my
voice.
It's
not
covet.
I've
tested
three
times,
but
I
feel
like
it
is,
but
anyway,
fortunately
we're
doing
things
remotely
so
anyway.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration
on
this
project
and
just
as
a
small
note,
904
applewood
is
very
familiar
to
me
as
well.
I
may
have
been
the
last
person
to
get
a
project
approved
there.
L
I
can't
remember
how
many
iterations
ago
that
was
anyway.
This
particular
project
is
for
a
long
time,
friend
and
client
of
ours,
a
developer
that
we've
done
the
mill
one
project
with
she
has
a
growing
family
and
loves
her
neighborhood,
loves
the
house
and
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it
would
accommodate
her
her
children
as
they
get
older.
L
The
house
itself
is
a
very
simple
center
center
hall
gabled
house,
there's
currently
in
the
rear,
a
small
one-story
addition
on
the
back,
as
well
as
a
porch
edition
off
to
one
side
actually
porch
edition
on
on
both
sides.
Flanking
most
of
this
addition,
or
what
you
see
is,
is
working
within
the
footprint
of
what
was
already
there,
but
taking
one
story
additions
and
making
them
into
two
stories.
L
So
here
are
photos
of
the
home.
It's
painted
brick,
a
slate
roof,
very
simple
pallet.
You
can
see
the
sort
of
shed
a
newer
addition
off
to
the
what
would
be
the
east
side
of
the
house
sort
of
wrapping
around
where
the
chimney
is
porch
on
the
left
side
as
well
as
then,
the
the
sunroom
family
room
addition
on
the
on
the
rear.
L
Here
you
have
a
little
bit
more
context
in
terms
of
the
street.
The
homes
are
basically
a
mix
of
styles,
all
pretty
traditional
in
their
general
nature,
almost
all
of
which
have
already
had
additions
added
to
the
rear.
I
think
this
may
be
one
of
the
last
in
the
neighborhood
that
hasn't
been
expanded
from
its
original
size.
L
It
is
a
I
guess.
Originally,
when
this
neighborhood
was
laid
out,
they
were
much
smaller
parcels.
This
is
a
double
partial.
It's
highlighted
in
blue.
You
can
see
its
proximity
sort
of
to
the
the
main
road
moving
just
a
neighbor
away,
and
you
can
also
see
so
the
graying
of
the
boxes.
So
this
particular
house
is
centered
on
what
would
have
been
the
old
property
line
that
divided
the
two
parcels.
Okay,
next
one.
L
L
So
the
floor,
the
floor
plan
basically
leaves
the
existing
house
more
or
less
as
it
was
the
a
long
time
ago.
The
sort
of
windows
were
removed
from
the
living
room.
When
the
sort
of
office
sunroom
edition
was
added
off
to
the
side,
and
then
you
can
see
the
sunroom
edition
on
the
rear.
L
The
the
new
footprint
expands
across
the
rear
and
kind
of
connects
that
office
space
around
sort
of
in
an
l
configuration
the
massing,
is
broken
down
a
little
bit.
We
did
add
a
little
bit
of
width
off
of
the
in
the
office
area.
L
Entry
comes
in
on
a
side
porch
after
going
through
a
gate.
Existing
gate
is
there
sort
of
reworking
it,
so
you
would
come
in
and
then
there's
sort
of
a
family
entrance
there
with
closet
and
cubbies
and
then
proceeding
through
the
living
room
and
on
to
the
kitchen
off
the
kitchen.
Basically,
we're
able
to
kind
of
you
know
use
the
in
a
little
bit
more
breakfast
bar
dining
area
and
a
real
family
room
that
can
be
used
for
the
growing
family.
L
The
porch
is
shown
as
being
more
kind
of
compacted.
I
think
now
it's
a
deck
and
we're
looking
at
basically
creating
a
florida
room
in
that
area
and
then
that
particular
side
porch
opens
down.
You
know,
as
well
as
the
dining
room
area
open
onto
a
patio
that
works
its
way
in
around
the
roots
of
the
existing
trees.
L
Second
floor
currently
pretty
tight
living
arrangements,
there's
an
ensuite
bath
in
the
one
bedroom
and
then
a
small
bath
in
the
hall
that
that
is
used
by
the
other.
Two
excuse
me
the
other
two
bedrooms.
L
L
This
is
just
the
basement
area
again
to
limit
disturbances
in
the
area
under
where
the
existing
crawls,
our
existing
sunroom
area
is
we're
just
doing
a
crawl
space.
But
then,
once
we
get
away
from
the
trees
in
the
backyard,
we're
able
to
align
with
the
existing
basement
and
add
some
additional
storage
mechanical
next.
L
Here
you
have
the
front
elevation,
so
essentially
the
same
sort
of
center
hall
building
stays
the
same.
The
addition
is
set
back
a
little
bit
to
sort
of
differentiate
it
same
kind
of
window
scale
and
detailing,
but
switching
from
the
painted
white
brick
to
a
hardy
siding
which
again
would
be
white
to
match
the
color
of
the
house.
L
L
Skylights
have
actually
been
deleted
from
the
project
they're,
not
there
anymore,
and
then
upstairs
kind
of
a
centered
window
in
the
office
area
go
ahead
next,
one,
the
rear
elevation
is
where
you
get
the
kind
of
twin
gables.
Again
we
wanted
to
kind
of
keep
the
scale
of
the
sort
of
gabled
house
going
as
we
went
around
keeping
things
pretty
modest.
L
This
kind
of
allowed
us
to
get
away
from
you
know
some
kind
of
big
or
something
that
kind
of
changed
the
vocabulary
of
the
house.
We
felt
it
was
important
to
keep
the
same
roof
pitches.
L
So
here
you
have
kind
of
the
twin
twin
gables:
the
right
is
the
dining
room
and
the
bedroom
upstairs
then
there's
sort
of
a
hyphen
area,
and
then
you
have
a
gable
that
projects
a
little
bit
more,
which
is
the
family
room
in
the
master
bedroom
and
then
the
west
elevation.
You
see
the
patio
door
from
the
dining
room
out
to
the
terrace,
as
well
as
the
sort
of
florida
room
piece
on
that
side
again,
that
that
porch
is
also
set
back
from
the
front
facade.
L
L
L
And
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
more,
we
can
see
if
there's
another
one
yep
one
more
from
the
rear
again
showing
showing
the
massing
with
that,
I'm
I'm
done
I'll
open
it
up
for
questions
and
any
comments.
J
A
So
before
we
move
on
to
a
discussion
by
the
panel
or
any
questions
from
the
panel
we'll
check
back
in
with
marta
to
ask.
If
there
are
any
speakers
from
the
public
sign
up.
A
Okay
right
along
then,
okay,
again,
we
will
start
with
fran
to
lead
us
off
in
the
discussion.
D
Thanks
esther
response
andrew
I,
what
I
don't
have
is
any
feedback
from
buxton
ryder
wood
or
neighbors.
Was
there?
Was
there
a
meeting?
Was
there
a
proposed
meeting
with
neighbors?
Give
me
some
feedback
there.
G
L
I
will
plead
ignorance
on
that.
I
don't
know
if,
if
jennifer
nolly
are
you
on
the
on
this
review,
I.
I
I
am
on
this,
yes
and
I
grace
sent
letters
to
all
of
my
surrounding
neighbors
and
there
was
a
follow-up
afterwards
and
nobody
had
any
issues.
I'm
also
very
close
with
all
my
neighbors
and
everyone
is
very
excited
about
it.
M
Okay,
I
also
spoke
with
mr
jamie
amy.
Yes
did
mr
khan
and
hope
from
the
board,
and
they
also
had
no
additional
comments
or
questions
that
had
arisen
from
the
paper.
D
Okay,
great
great,
that's
good!
It's
just
curious,
not
really
in
our
in
our
purview,
but
you
don't
need
any!
You
don't
have
any
setback,
issues
with
the
additions
or
you're,
not
looking
for
any
relief
from
setbacks
here
right.
D
I
D
Have
any
other
comments
for
you,
I'm
more
concerned
about
their
perspective
and
it
you
know,
sounds
like
they're,
okay
and
I'm
satisfied
so
good
job
and
that's
it
for
me
yeah.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
fran
we'll
go
to
joe
yousafero
next.
G
J
A
And
now
we'll
move
to
raj
sharma.
C
L
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
we're
taking
the
foundation
down
and
matching
it.
We
do
have
thresholds
at
all
of
the
locations
of
the
adjoining
addition.
So
settlement
really
shouldn't
be
an
issue
from
an
expansion
joint
standpoint,
roofing
wise,
we're
basically
overbuilding
on
the
existing
roof.
But
we
did
take
differential
settlement
into
consideration
relative
to
the
structural
design.
C
C
A
E
A
Yeah,
thank
you,
okay,
so
I
I
will
give
you.
I
just
want
to
commend
you
for
following
the
gable
forms
and
roof
forms
of
the
addition
to
match
and
relate
to
the
house
massing.
I
think
that's
done
particularly
well.
A
I
do
have
a
couple
questions,
so
I
think
you
said
that
the
original
roof
is
slate.
Is
that
to
remain
and
then
you're
laying
on
top
of
that
asphalt,
shingles
and
then
how?
How
will
those
join
are,
or
are
you
removing
the
slate
shingles
from
the
existing
house.
L
Only
from
the
so
where
we
go
on
to
the
rear
of
the
house
we
need
to,
but
from
the
front
the
existing
roof
would
remain.
A
Okay,
all
right
very
good,
and
then
my
next
question
is
about
the
chimney.
I'm
guessing!
That's
now
a
chimney
enclosure
almost
a
false
form
on
the
roof.
Is
that
correct.
L
Yeah,
so
we
don't
have
any
cables
that
are
taller
than
the
existing
roof,
so
there's
no
need
to
extend
the
chimney
either.
A
Okay,
very
good
small
nitpicky
thing
I
is
the
patio
designed
is
that
the
design
that's
shown
in
plan
is
that
the
final
designer
is
that
just
a
placeholder.
L
It's
just
a
placeholder.
The
the
reality
is
that
90
plus
percent
of
the
landscaping
that
exists
in
the
half
days
there's
a
little
bit
of
foundation
planning
against
the
existing
sun
room
area
that
would
have
to
be
replaced,
there's
a
beautiful
pine
or
a
pair
of
pines
that
are
located
right
in
that
patio
area.
So
it's
really
just
you
know
something
happens
at
the
ground
plane,
but
we,
you
know
until
everything's
been
done.
I
don't
think
there's
really
been
any
finalization
of
what
that
would
be.
A
Okay,
I
mean-
I,
I
think
it's
great-
that
you're
keeping
the
existing
landscape.
I
will
say
that
to
my
eye,
you
know
the
the
patio
that's
shown
here
is
sort
of
a
spilled
paint
scheme
and
doesn't
relate
well
to
the
building's
architecture
and
just
you
know
given
given
the
project
we
just
saw
and
how
in
integrated,
I
guess
that
rear
area
was.
I
just
would
love
to
see
something.
It
means
in
the
back
of
the
house.
I
A
Than
something
amorphous
in
shape.
L
Yeah-
and
I
think
that's
you
know-
I
mean
that's
something
that
I'm
sure
jennifer
can
can
listen
to.
I
think
if
you
went
to
the
photo
of
the
rear,
you
would
see
the
backyard
gets
pretty
organic
in
terms
of
its
shapes
pretty
quickly.
L
I
think
there
are
some
photos
of
the
house
yeah
yeah,
one
more
and
another
one.
There
we
go.
L
So
you
can
just
catch
it
into
the
right,
the
overhanging
branches,
but
it's
an
exquisite
tree
and
things
really
kind
of
flow
around
it
in
a
very
organic
fashion.
So
I
think
that
was
what,
when,
when
grace
drew,
the
patio
shape,
she
was
kind
of
replicating
that
same
kind
of
meandering
feel
that
exists
in
the
backyard
right
now,
as
created
by
the
sort
of
the
shade
of
the
trees.
You
know
where
things
things
don't
grow.
A
Okay,
yeah,
I
mean
as
long
as
it
relates
to
something
and
then
even
I
don't
think
you
know,
I
do
think
the
additions
are
are
well
designed
and
that
this
is
an
appropriate
and
and
well
designed
addition
and
expansion
of
this
home
so
well
done
and
with
that
well,
I
will
offer
the
opportunity,
if
there's
any
closing
comments,
just.
A
Thank
you
so
with
that
any
drp
member
who
would
like
to
make
a
motion
on
this
one.
D
Guess
I'll
do
that
again
I
would
this
fran.
I
would
move
that
the
design
be
approved
as
submitted.
B
This
is
joseph
youssefero
I'll.
Second,
the
motion.
G
A
K
Good
evening
this
is
rick
richardson
with
richardson
engineering
for
the
civil
engineers.
I
also
have
with
me
paul
gorman,
who
is
the
architect
and
cassandra
foster
who
is
representing
bp,
and
so
this
request
is
basically
to
renovate
the
existing
building.
K
I
K
They
also
put
a
newly
canopy
in
place
on
there,
so
this
basically
is
going
to
out
of
car
washes,
is
really
the
main
thing
that
we're
presenting
here
tonight,
as
well
as
upgrading
the
the
building
to
modernize
it
next
page.
K
So
this
is
the
the
current
building
in
the
back
there,
and
you
can
see
that
the
canopy
is
is.
K
Because
it's
new
and
they're
they're
rebranding
it
to
a
crown
station
from
what
used
to
be
a
bp,
and
so
this
is
like.
I
said
this:
the
existing
conditions
there
next
page.
K
There's
also
the
the
existing
convenience
stores
is
way
over
on
the
right.
There.
There's
an
old
bank
building
there
little
kiosk
that
they
had
a
a
atm
in
that
is
going
to
be
removed,
and
this
is
an
area
where
the.
K
K
K
K
I
K
The
there's
a
rita's
italian
ice,
which
is
next
to
it
in
the
middle
of
the
picture
there
and
then
some
more
commercials
buildings
further
down
towards
the
west
on
frederick
road
here.
Next,
please.
K
K
K
K
Yeah,
there's
there's
the
buildings
that
are
to
the
west
of
the
church.
It's
more
of
stores
and
bank
building
there.
K
Next,
please
just
to
the
west
of
that
there's
a
jiffy
lube,
there's
a
picture
of
the
jiffy
lube
there.
So
next,
please
and
just
beyond
the
jiffy
lube.
This
is
all
still
on
the
north
side
of
frederick
road.
You
can
see,
there's
a
truest
bank
and
some
more
retail
spaces
over
there
adjacent
to
that.
Next,
please.
K
So
this
is
the
rita's
italian
ice
I
was
stating
this
is
immediately
on
the
west
side
of
our
property
and
then
to
the
rear
of
it.
Is
another
car
repair
place,
that's
way
in
the
back
there,
and
just
to
the
left
side
here
is
the
western
side
of
the
car,
where
the
car
wash
is
actually
going
to
be
going.
Basically
next,
please.
K
Bank
building,
but
anyway
they
got
a
little
drive-through
set
up
coming
through
there,
and
these
are
parking
spaces
that
are
on
our
lot
in
the
foreground
here,
and
the
road
in
between
is
the
road
that
leads
back
to
the
other
car
repair
place,
that's
immediately
behind
the
gas
station
site.
Next,
please.
K
K
Next,
please
one
last
picture
of
basically
the
corner
of
bishops.
You
can
see
the
sign
that
signs
intending
to
stay.
We
probably
will
add
something
to
it
that
says
car
wash
included
with
the
crown
and
and
then,
of
course,
the
pricing
below
it.
K
So
this
is
the
the
zoning
map
for
the
the
the
property
is
zoned
blccc.
You
can
see
the
canopy
at
the
top
of
the
property
and
the
kind
of
sort
of
ls
shape
there.
That's
the
actual
convenience
store
and
the
little
building
over
to
the
right,
which
is
the
kiosk
where
the
bank
card
was
next.
Please.
K
And
here's
the
aerial
picture
of
the
same
thing:
you
can
see
the
the
canopy,
the
convenience
store
building
and
the
little
bank
atm
across
the
street
on
the
east
side.
That's
the
car
repair
place.
You
can
see
the
the
couple
houses
that
are
just
to
the
south
on
long
bishop's
lane
and
then
a
big
parking
lot
that
is
behind
us,
which
is
all
part
of
the
car
repair
place,
which
is
immediately
to
the
left
of
that
and
then
up
in
immediately
on
the
left
side,
west
side
of
our
site.
K
C
K
You
can
see
the
stacking
for
the
pumps
of
the
cars
up
there
and
the
parking
along
the
west
side
is
going
to
be
replaced
with
where
the
stacking
is
coming
into.
The
car
wash
building,
which
is
on
the
left-hand
side
there
and
add
some
more
parking
spaces
up
to
the
northeast
corner
of
the
property.
K
Put
some
landscaping
in
along
bishop's
lane,
where
there
isn't
any
right
now
and
the
stacking
lane
which
comes
around
starting
at
the
east
side
off
of
bishop's
lane
wraps
around
the
back
of
the
building
and
then
through
the
car
wash
on
and
then
heads
out
towards
frederick
road.
As
on
the
exit
of
it,.
K
So
this
is
our
conceptual
landscape
plan,
see
that
we're
putting
a
lot
of
landscaping
along
the
rear
of
the
property
and
then
creating
some
landscape
spaces
where
basically,
there
isn't
any
now
along
frederick.
G
K
Adding
landscaping
areas
and
landscaping
to
the
around
the
parking
spaces
that
are
being
constructed
on
the
the
east
side,
basically
we're
creating
creating
the
drive-through
lane
through
the
back
and
the
parking
is
pretty
much
in
the
same
spot
as
it
is
today,
along
that
side,
where
the
bank
little
bank
building
that's
going
away.
K
So
we're
into
the
the
architecture
stuff
here
and
like
paul
to
jump
in
if
he
wants
to,
but
basically
this
the
upper
left
there
is
the
cons
conceptual
rendering
of
what
is
going
to
look
like
the
colors
are
going
to
be
blue,
not
green
for
the
crown,
but
the
canopy.
K
That's
just
been
replaced
in
the
front
there,
the
convenience
store,
which
is
being
reworked
in
the
back
there,
and
then
the
car
wash
that's
off
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
that
top
part,
and
then
you
can
see
a
little
picture
there
on
the
left
hand,
side
below
it
of
what's
there
today
and
then
on.
The
bottom
right
is
more
of
a
picture
from
the
other
direction.
Where
you
see
the
car
wash
front.
G
K
Then
the
convenience
store
in
the
back
and,
of
course,
the
intention
of
the
convenience
store
renovation
is
to
make
it
look,
clean
and
modern,
add
new
storefront
and
just
make
it
look
a
lot
more
conventional
than
what
it
does
today,
because
it's
it's
kind
of
old
and
tired
at
this
point.
K
This
is
a
picture
of
the
floor
plans.
You
see
the
the
canopy
with
the
pumps
up
at
the
top
on
the
right,
the
convenience
store,
which
is
going
to
pretty
much
remain,
as
it
is
now
inside
the
coolers
on
the
left-hand
side,
all
the
merchandise
on
the
right-hand
side
and
the
cashiers
in
the
back
there,
and
then,
of
course,
the
car
wash
and
the
one
that
one
thing
about
the
carwash
building,
which
was
noted.
K
The
the.
K
And
they
really
are
going
to
be
over
to
towards
the
the
east
side
of
the
building,
because
the
west
side
is
where
all
the
equipment
is
and
the
cars
will
go
through
on
the
east
side
and
get
their
wash
and
then
come
out
again.
K
So
here's
here's
kind
of
a
up
close
rendering
with
the
materials
labeled
as
to
what's
going
to
be
there
once
again,
I
believe
it's
going
to
be
blue
and
not
green,
because
the
colors
for
ground,
which
is
being
re-branded
as
a
crown
station
now
instead
of
bp,
but
this
is
this-
is
the
kind
of
the
color
ideas
that
we're
going
to
have
other
than
the
green
will
be
blue.
K
K
So
unless
paul
or
cassandra
has
anything
to
say,
I
think
I'll
open
it
up
to
the
panels
and
get
get
your
comments.
A
H
Yes,
we
will
thank
you.
We
will
go
to
that,
but
so
certainly
to
answer
your
question:
there
are
no
community
speakers
from
community.
H
So
to
stop
report
the
department
of
planning
prepared
staff
report
based
on
the
comprehensive
manual
development
policies,
the
catonsville
plan
and
baltimore
county
landscape
manual
in
terms
of
site
design
staff
cannot
recommend
approval
of
the
site
design
subject
to
the
following
conditions:
number
one.
The
slide
plan
as
proposed
is
not
complete
as
labeled
information.
H
It
appears
that
the
rear
portion
of
the
building
is
being
removed
to
accommodate
the
drive-through
car.
Wash
lane
demonstrate
that
all
of
the
setbacks
and
parking
requirements
are
being
met
through
dimensions,
setbacks
and
a
parking
chart
number
two
provide
a
detailed
site
plan
showing
the
existing
building
parking,
sidewalk
and
vehicle
and
pedestrian
circulation
to
the
street.
H
The
two
parking
spaces
proposed
near
the
exit
point
of
the
rear
of
the
car
wash
could
be
problematic.
Number
three
provide
a
detailed
lobster
location
on
the
plan
that
shows
the
access
in
terms
of
form
and
image.
Staff
recommends
approval
of
the
form
and
image
in
terms
of
open
space
and
landscape
design
staff
recommends
approval
with
the
following
conditions:
number
one
provide
enhanced
landscaping
along
frederick
avenue
and
bishop
lane
number
two
incorporate
stormwater
management,
best
practices,
provide
expansion,
explanation
or
demonstrate
on
the
plan.
H
How
stormwater
runoff
will
be
managed
in
terms
of
street
parking
and
circulation
staff,
recommend
approval,
subject
to
the
following
conditions:
number
one
provide
a
detailed
site
plan
showing
the
existing
building
parking,
sidewalk
and
vehicle
and
pedestrian
circulation
to
the
street.
The
two
parking
spaces
proposed
near
the
exit
point
of
the
car
wash
could
be
problematic.
H
Number
two.
The
architectural
elevations
reveals
that
the
door
to
exit
the
car
wash
is
centered
on
that
facade
of
the
building,
but
the
side
plans
all
show
the
address
out
of
the
building
to
be
slightly
to
the
right
clarified.
As
discrepancy
number
three
indicate
how
many
parking
spaces
are
required
for
the
proposed
site.
H
A
Thank
you
martha
and
with
that
we'll
open
it
up
to
the
panels
discussion,
let's
start
with
joe
youssefera
this
time.
J
Hi
everybody
good
evening.
B
So
I
I
have
a.
I
have
a
fair
number
of
comments
that
I
I
think
I
want
to
refer
back
to
the
staff
report,
and
you
know
I
just
want
to
remind
everyone
on
the
phone
that
the
panel
is
not
required
to
review
for
zoning
compliance,
stormwater
management
or
setbacks,
and
I-
and
I
I
seem
to
the
there
appears
to
be
some
county
staff
report-
comments
that
kind
of
go
to
the
zoning
and
and
some
of
those
comments.
So
I
I
want
to
steer
away
from
those.
B
I
think
my
first
comment
that
mr
richardson
already
addressed
was
the
entrance
to
the
car
wash
it
look,
I'm
looking
at
a
site
plan
here
and
I
and
I
think,
if
mr
richardson
could
clarify
that
the
entrance
and
exit
of
the
car
wash
depicted
on
this
site
plan
is
accurate,
which
is,
I
think,
what
I
heard,
which
is
different
from
what
the
architectural
plan
should
is.
K
That
accurate,
yes,
okay,
yes,
the
the
architect,
I
don't
know
just
didn't
pick
up
on
the
fact
that
the
one
side
of
the
that
building
is
basically
where
all
the
equipment
is
yeah
and
the
car
wash
where
the
car
goes
through,
is
not
in
the
center
but
off
to
the
side
of
that.
And
so
that's
that's
just
an
error
that
we
we
discovered.
K
B
Understood
and-
and
I
think
I
think
that
this
coming
in
on
the
east
side-
actually
works
better
right
yeah,
because
it
keeps
you
you
kind
of
outside
of
into
the
site
as
as
you
as
you,
as
a
customer
exits,
the
car
wash,
it
looks
like
there's
some
kind
of
striped
area,
that's
to
be
landscaped,
but
it
doesn't
appear
to
be
curved
it.
Could
you
clarify
that
that
is
to
be
curved,
because
I
really
think
it
should
be.
K
Yes,
that
area
will
be
curved
off,
so
we
can
put
landscaping
in
there.
That's
the
hatching
is
basically
the
designated
as
the
local
open
space.
K
B
Understood.
Okay,
thank
you.
My
my
next
comment
is
just
just
being
curious
and
or
asking
the
question,
but
the
the
back
piece
of
the
site
is
zoned
residential.
K
B
Okay,
it.
E
B
That
way
on
the
plan,
so
just
you
know
point
of
of
clarification
as
you
progress
forward.
Just
you
know,
look
at
that
because
it
would
be.
It
appears
that
it
would
be
commercial
stacking
in
a
residential
center,
just
just
a
advisory
comment.
B
K
K
Fence
there
now,
yes,
okay,
the
picture
I
did.
I
didn't
mention
it
and
with
the
one
picture
that
I
took
looking
over
towards
the
duplex,
there
got
it
okay,
I
clearly
see
the
fence
there.
B
Okay
and
then
my
my
last
comment
is
simply
two
more
comments.
One
advisory
comment,
as
it
relates
to
the
dumpster
martha.
If
you
could
scroll
kind
of
to
the
left
of
the
plan,
the
dumpster
is
next
to
the
car
wash,
but
again,
if
advisory,
you
may
need
to
upgrade
the
facade
some
kind
of
fire
rated
wall
because
of
the
dumpster
and
the
fire
component,
so
just
again
just
advisory.
B
There
understood
and
then
I
think
my
my
last
comment
as
it
relates
to
the
to
the
architecture
and
the
color
scheme.
So
I
think
what
you
mentioned
is,
and
instead
of
this
green,
it's
going
to
be
blue
and
the
and
the
blue
color
is
going
to
be
consistent
with
the
picture
of
the
canopy
that
you
you
referred
to
earlier
is
that
is
that
accurate.
C
So
just
a
thought
it
may
be
out
of
the
scope
of
a
panel.
You
can
correct
me.
My
one
question
is
that
is
the
facility
going
to
be
video
monitored
number
two:
what's
the
height
going
to
be
of
those
bushes,
if
they
are
too
high,
they
might
be.
You
know,
beyond
the
visual
sight.
C
K
K
E
A
So
yes,
okay,
very
good,
so
then
you
know,
I
think
there
are
a
couple
things
things
that
I
would
add
I
mean
I
do
agree
with
the
staff
report
on
a
number
of
points.
A
Also,
the
you
know
the
color
change.
I
understand
that
was
maybe
a
last
minute
and
didn't
get
to
come
into
this
presentation,
but
you
know
blues,
for
example,
can
range.
It
would
be
good
to
see
what
that
was.
I
also
think
the
comments
about
the
bike
racks
are
needed
necessary
to
address.
I
think
the
dumpster
enclosure
you
know
kind
of
at
the
the
front
and
kind
of
tucked
in
there
may
need
a
little
bit
more
study.
I
don't
think
that
the
current,
really
it's
just
a
precedent
image.
A
I
think
that's
shown
you
know.
I
don't
think
that
relates
to
the
the
building
redesign
or
the
car
wash
design,
and
you
know
there
are
some
other
components
that
I
don't
think
are
you
know
all
together
known,
such
as
the
plant
material,
the
species.
A
You
know
how
the
front
edge
is
treated
along
front,
frederick
road,
for
the
comments
again
of
the
county
staff.
I
would
relate
similarly
to
that.
The
sign,
of
course,
needs
to
come
back
if
there's
a
an
element
added
to
it
to
talk
about
or
advertise
the
card
wash.
A
I
think
those
are
my
main
comments
of
things
that
I
see
that,
were
you
know,
maybe
not
fully
developed
or
coordinated
with
the
change
of
plans
or
not
listed
to
the
satisfaction
of
what
we
would
like
to
see
in
terms
of
plant
material
locations
clarifying
where
curbs
are
or
not
the
dumpster
etc.
So
that
would
be
it
for
me
and
then
so.
I'd
like
to
just
open
again
the
give
the
presenter
an
offer
presenter
an
opportunity
to
with
any
final
comments
before
we
move
to
motion.
K
K
A
A
Clearly
I
just
think
that
obviously
there
needs
to
be
something
recorded.
I
think
that
blue
is
fine
if
it's
a
direct
match
to
that,
meaning
it's
a
custom
color
to
match
precisely
that
crown
color.
So
be
it,
but
you
know
sometimes
the
things
change.
When
you
go
with
a
off.
You
know
off
the
shelf,
not
custom,
color
that
it
could
deviate,
but
again
it
just
needs
to
be
recorded
somewhere
on
submission
documents.
K
K
That
I
just
not
that
anybody
really
was
interested
or
not,
but
there
are
parking
calculations
on
there.
There
are
dimensions
to
all
sides
of
the
building
from
from
the
property
lines,
and
I
don't.
I
think
that
we
we
did
document
the
the
parking
requirements
and
the
setbacks
of
the
buildings
to
to
address
that
issue.
K
Not
that,
like
I
said
that
is
the
point
of
what's
what
you're
approving
here
necessarily
anyways,
but
I
did
want
to
point
that
out.
A
Thank
you
for
pointing
that
out
and
you're
right
I
mean
the
setbacks,
have
fallen
really
more
into
meeting
zoning
requirements
but
good
to
point
out
nonetheless.
So
with
that.
H
Sorry
go
ahead.
I
would
like
that
also
parking
needs
to
meet
patreon
county's
learning
regulations
requirement.
K
A
Yeah,
as
noted
that's
a
bit
out
of
our
purview,
obviously
it
has
to
meet
the
regulations.
I
will
just
note
that
sometimes
applicants
come
with
those
calculations
done
and
kind
of
ask
us
to
weigh
in
so
it's
you
know
that
will
be
addressed
and
that's
fine.
It's
not
something
that
will
comment
on.
The
staff
report
already
addresses
that
and
you'll
have
to
go
through
those
steps.
So,
okay
with
that
I'll
turn
it
back
to
my
panel
members.
If
someone
would
like
to
venture
to
promotion
on
the
table.
B
K
He
means
building
signs
yeah.
I
would
think
advertising
signs
yeah,
I
mean
you
can
see
on
the
current
building.
They
have
smart
there,
so
I'm
assuming
they're
going
to
have
some
kind
of
a
signage
there
and
I'm
assuming
they're
going
to
have
possibly
something
on
the
car
wires.
That
says
car
wash
on
it
as
well.
Yeah.
B
Okay,
I.
G
B
Asked
that,
because
the
the
it's
my
understanding
that
the
design
review
panel
needs
to
review
and
approve
that
prior
to
any
kind
of
sign
permits
that
are
filed
for.
B
And-
and
I
and
I
say
that,
because
the
the
signs
on
the
car
wash
and
the
new
convenience
store
and
the
canopy
are
not
shown,
therefore,
I
I
would
assume
you're
going
to
have
them,
so
you
would
likely
have
to
come
back
is
really
where
I'm
going.
K
I
didn't
didn't
know
that
I
needed
to
have
those
specifically
blessed
by
the
panel,
so
it
didn't
intend
to
come
back
necessarily
but
sounds
like
I
guess
we're
gonna
have
to
for
that.
For
that
purpose
at
least
anyways.
B
You
know
that
this
is.
I
think
this
is
just
a
a
discussion
between
the
panel,
but
you
know
it.
In
my
opinion,
the
architectural
elevations
showed
doors
in
different
spots
that
than
the
site
plan.
There's
a
again.
The
colors
are
far
different.
I
just
think
this
is
a
an
incomplete
submittal
that
I'd
I'd.
A
I
would
agree
with
you
josh.
If
you
know
per
my
comments.
I
just
think
there
are
a
number
of
things
I
mean
some
things
aren't
within
our
purview
that
are
in
the
staff
report,
but
there
are
enough
things
that
you
know
that
that
would
need
to
be
considered
the
dumpster
enclosure,
the
signage
both
on
this
on
the
freestanding
sign,
as
well
as
on
the
buildings,
any
lighting.
A
A
Mr
sharma,
any
any
input
on
that.
B
Sure
so,
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
request
the
applicant
make
the
following
modifications
to
the
package
and
resubmit
and
come
back
before
the
design
review
panel
number
one.
B
B
A
Very
good,
mr
sharma,
I
have
to
look
to
you.
Would
you
like
to
motion
that
or.
A
I'm
sorry
do
we
have
a
second
I'm
relying
on
you,
mr
sharma,
because
we
don't
have
any
other
panel
numbers
and
I'm
not
allowed.
C
A
G
A
Hi
and
mr
sharma
hi,
okay,
the
motion
carries
so
so
thank
you
for
presenting
and
we
will
see
you
back
with
revised
minor
revisions
to
this,
as
well
as
any
signage
and
any
refinements.
So
thank
you
for
this
evening
and
with
that
I
will
ask
a
panel
member
to
make
a
motion
to
adjourn.