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C
D
A
A
Excellent.
Thank
you
now
we'll
move
on
to
the
december
8th
meeting
minutes
on
january
6th
in
that
email.
You
receive
draft
minutes
for
that
meeting
on
december,
8th
as
everyone
on
the
panel
had
an
opportunity
to
review
the
draft
minutes
and
if
there
are
any
corrections
or
additions
to
the
minutes,
please
let
us
know.
B
F
A
Very
good
and
all
in
favor
say
aye.
A
A
32-4-2-3-3-2-4-2-4
establish
the
design
review
panel,
the
drp
was
established
to
encourage
design
excellence
and
shall
act
in
a
consulting
and
advisory
capacity
to
the
agencies
involved
in
the
process
for
reviewing
development
plans.
The
objective
for
drp's
assessment
include
spatial
visual
and
functional
relations,
relationships
to
the
topographical
characteristics,
the
natural
and
built
features
of
the
site,
as
well
as
the
surrounding
features
of
the
site.
A
Visual
and
functional
integration
of
streetscapes,
pedestrian
pathways,
playgrounds,
recreational
amenities
and
parks,
streets
and
sidewalks,
or
that
streets
and
sidewalks
are
laid
out
in
a
safe
and
convenient
manner
and
parking
is
a
positive
design.
Element.
Building
parking
garages
and
other
structures
are
spatially
and
visually
integrated
and
suitable
to
their
surroundings
in
proportion,
massing
and
type
of
materials
and
colors.
A
Signage
and
other
elements
of
urban
design
and
plant
materials
are
selected
and
cited
to
define
the
site,
provide
a
theme
frame
of
view,
enhance
architecture
and
street
character,
improve
the
micro
climate,
provide
transition
between
dissimilar
uses,
screen,
objectionable
views
and
uses
and
reduce
noise
levels
and
glare
in
carrying
out
its
duties.
The
drp
utilizes
the
guidelines,
plans
and
architectural
principles
in
the
comprehensive
manual
of
development
policies
and
or
master
plan,
as
well
as
other
guidelines
and
regulations
adopted
into
law.
A
The
panel
will
provide
a
technical
review
of
the
proposed
project
issues
relative
to
zoning
setback,
relief,
environmental
and
stormwater
management
and
traffic
regulations
do
not
fall
under
the
purview
of
the
drp
and
are
regulated
through
the
appropriate
agencies
responsible
for
those
aspects
of
the
development
plan
review
process.
The
panel
consists
of
nine
members
all
are
professionals
with
practical
knowledge
in
the
matters
of
design.
For
the
purposes
of
making
recommendations
on
a
particular
project,
three
members
shall
constitute
a
quorum.
A
The
attendance
and
comments
of
each
member
shall
be
recorded
in
the
minutes,
which
shall
be
an
open
record
and
available
along
with
all
documents
submitted
to
the
panel
panel
for
inspection
and
copying
by
the
public.
There
will
be
an
opportunity
for
the
community
to
offer
comments
and
suggestions
at
the
conclusion
of
the
applicant's
presentation.
A
These
comments
will
also
be
included
in
the
written
record
of
the
meeting
when
a
speaker
is
called
up
to
speak.
Please
keep
your
comments
focused
on
design
perspectives
within
your
allotted
two
minutes
time.
However,
if
you're
speaking
on
behalf
of
a
community
group,
you
will
have
five
minutes
at
the
conclusion
of
the
meeting.
The
department
of
planning
will
sum
up.
The
recommendations
of
the
panel
before
a
motion
for
vote
is
suggested.
A
Recent
legislation
has
changed
the
panel's
recommendations
to
be
advisory
on
the
hearing
officer
and
various
county
agencies.
Unless
the
hearing
officer
or
agencies
find
that
the
panel's
actions
constitute
an
abuse
of
its
discretion
were
unsupported
by
the
documentation
and
evidence
presented,
disposition
of
the
plan
will
be
determined
as
either
approved,
approved
with
conditions
or
additional
review
with
a
second
meeting
required.
A
So
thank
you
for
bearing
with
that
and
now
we
will
move
on
to
the
first
item
on
the
agenda.
The
only
item
on
the
agenda,
which
is
501
fairmont
avenue
within
the
downtown
towson,
and
this
is
for
a
commercial
sign
review.
So
with
that
we
will
move
to
the
first
item
and
presenter.
Please
present
your
project.
The
floor
is
yours,.
G
Yeah
good
evening,
everyone
can
you
hear
me:
okay,
all
right,
I'm
jacob
moore,
I'm
the
project
manager
with
strickler
signs
in
attendance
with
me
is
christopher
holt
and
patrick
ward.
They're
they're
going
to
represent
oarstown
bank
we're
seeking
approval
for
one
wall
sign
on
the
northern
exterior
facade.
G
This
first
page
you
see
on
the
screen
is
showing
an
ariel
where
I've
circled
it.
The
building
and
to
the
right
of
that
is
the
zoning
map
where
it's
on
vm.
G
Marta,
if
you
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
this
is
the
proposed
sign
where
it's
87
square
feet
and
is
also
showing
the
placement
on
the
facade.
G
Martin,
if
you
could
go
down
to
the
next
page
as
well
here
we're
showing
it
imposed
on
a
google
earth
view.
This
is
to
give
an
idea
of
how
this
manual
fit
into
the
neighborhood.
G
G
That's
just
to
show
again
that
the
the
background
is
not
illuminated.
The
leds
are
only
within
the
letters
and
the
stripes.
G
Matter,
if
you
could
go
down
again,
these
are
the
materials
and
colors
being
used
being
proposed.
I
should
say
the
black
is
on
the
sides
of
the
letters.
This
is
an
aluminum
and
then
on
the
front.
Letters,
as
I
said
earlier,
is
an
acrylic
white
and
then
there's
a
translucent
vinyl
orange
vinyl,
applied
on
the
stripes
and
then
the
the
background.
The
raceways
painted
the
oarstown
green
to
match
their
branding.
G
A
Very
good,
thank
you
jacob.
That
concludes
the
presentation.
Anyone
else
for
oars
town
wish
to
speak
at
this
time
just
to
check
in.
A
E
So
our
recommendations,
our
staff
report,
as
usually
prepared
by
based
on
downtown
thousand
over
the
time
guidelines
and
by
section
32-4-203.
E
And
section
32-4-204-f
of
the
baltimore
county
code,
so
our
recommendations
in
regards
to
sign
are
the
following:
stuff:
the
first
design
approval
to
drp
and
request
that
the
following
be
taken
in
the
consideration
by
drp.
There
are
currently
five
businesses
that
occupy
the
building,
including
the
oarstown
bank.
There
is
one
existing
sign
on
the
501
fairmont
avenue,
building's
north
facade,
located
at
the
third
floor
level
for
the
benefit
mall
business
the
permit
for
that
sign
was
issued
prior
to
establishment
of
their
pe
review
area.
E
The
applicant
proposes
the
earth
down
bank
assign
be
located
at
the
fourth
floor
level,
given
that
gtd
do
not
state
any
specifics.
Regarding
limiting
the
number
of
signs
per
facade,
the
department
of
planning
provides
the
recommendations
based
on
the
underlying
zoning,
which
is
bm
and
bccr
section
for
february.
E
A
single
enterprise
wall-mounted
sign,
may
not
be
more
than
150
square
feet
and
only
three
enterprise
signs
be
allowed
per
premises,
and
there
are
no
then
two
on
each
facade
of
a
building
are
allowed,
and
this
concludes
our
staff
report.
B
Oh,
thank
you.
I
just
have
two
comments,
or
possibly
three
it
looks
like
it
does
meet
the
requirement
for
being
less
than
100
square
feet.
If
there's
two
signs
on
the
same
facade
of
the
building,
I'm
curious.
If
the
applicant
can
speak
to
the
light
levels
that
are
in
that
are
in
the
rendering
on
page
seven,
how
it's
illuminated
at
night.
B
It
looks
particularly
bright
in
in
the
rendering
and
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it
complies
with
the
current
lighting
codes
and
then
the
last
question
is
more
of.
Is
there?
Is
there
a
black
or
a
dark
gray
in
the
color
palette
of
the
horsetown
bank
style
guide
that
might
complement
the
building
and
maybe
align
with
the
design
of
the
other
sign.
H
A
G
G
I'd
have
to
get
with,
I
guess
their
marketing
department
to
see
if,
if
a
darker
color
could
be
entertained
or
not,
and
as
far
as
the
lighting
is
concerned,
we've
done
studies
in
the
past
for
many
different
types
of
signs
and
what
we've
gathered
is.
If
you
were
to
stand
on
the
sidewalk
and
hold
a
light
meter
up
to
that
sign,
you
wouldn't
you,
wouldn't
it
wouldn't
read
anything
it
wouldn't
be
any
brighter
than
the
street
lamps.
It
would
be
washed
out.
G
The
the
rendering
is
showing
it
as
a
pretty
bright
white
and
they
are
white
leds.
But
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
from
this
from
the
sidewalk
of
the
pedestrian
view.
You,
wouldn't
you,
wouldn't
be
able
to
pick
up
any
light
with
a
light
meter.
B
C
Good
evening,
the
only
question
I
had
was
about
the
lighting
at
night,
so
that
was
answered
and
I
don't
have
any
further
questions.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
G
Yeah,
so
our
our
signs
are
designed
to
withstand
over
100
miles
per
hour,
wind
gusts,
as
it
is
right
now.
Baltimore
county
does
not
require
stamped
engineers
for
these
wall
signs.
But
if
it's
something
that
the
panel
is
requesting,
we
can
certainly
get
an
engineer
to
review
it
and
stamp.
D
D
A
A
Okay,
let's
see
mr
yusofaro.
C
F
Signage
expert-
and
I
think
this
question
is
more
to
jacob
in
in
this
situation.
You
have
an
existing
sign
on
a
building
that
appears
to
be
non-illuminated
and,
above
it
is,
is
you
know,
you're
proposing
an
illuminated
sign,
just
curious
for
that
application?
Do
you
run
into
this
often,
and
and
will
this
will
this
look
out
of
place,
one
illuminated,
one
non-illuminated
or
or
generally,
would
you
design
it
to
conform
to
the
building
the
surroundings,
and
you
know.
H
G
The
tough
to
answer
we,
we
certainly
have
in
many
instances,
put
eliminated
signs
and
non-limited
signs
together.
I'm
truthfully,
I'm
not
sure
if
the
benefit
mall
sign
illuminates
or
not
it
has,
it
has
the
characteristics
to
illuminate
it's.
Certainly,
a
deep
enough
sign,
perhaps
patrick
from
morristown,
could
confirm
whether
or
not
that
sign.
D
Eliminates
honestly,
I
can't
honor.
I
cannot
answer
that
question.
I
have
not
actually
been
there
that
night
to
see
it.
G
F
A
You're
good,
thank
you,
mister
you!
This
is
cecily.
I
you
know
my.
I
guess
my
one
question
would
be
is
the
sign
it
looks
like
the
sign
was
designed
to
fit
within
the
I'll
call
it
eve
detail
of
the
building
facade.
It
has
a
drop
down,
I'm
guessing
that's
efus
and
is
your
sign
centered
within
within
that
bay.
G
Yeah,
that's
how
we're
proposing
it
centered
left
to
right
within
that
and
then
top
to
bottom
within
that
space
as
well.
A
Okay,
yeah,
I
mean
one,
you
know
one
thing
I
you
know,
I
think
part
of
the
downtown
towson
guidelines
require
or
suggest
that
that
the
signs
we
have
a
pedestrian
scale
that
they
do
fit
within
the
buildings.
You
know
architecture.
I
think
you
have
accomplished
that.
A
I
do
feel,
however,
that
this
is
a
very
auto-centric
street
and
the
positioning
of
this,
especially
relative
to
the
other,
the
other
sign,
is
appropriate
for
the
fair
amount
is
what
five
lanes
across
at
this
juncture,
I
think
or
this
this
point
of
the
street,
so
I
do
feel
like
that's,
probably
an
appropriate
approach
to
put
the
signage
there
and,
as
we
can
see,
the
trees
they're
not
encroaching
upon
that
corner,
there's
a
little
bit
more
visibility
and
they
might
come
up
to
the
third
floor
level.
A
So
I
do
understand
about
putting
them
above
the
third
and
fourth
level,
so
that
all
seems
to
me
appropriate.
Given
the
location,
I
am
not
a
big
fan
of
channel
backlit
channel
letters,
but
I
do
think
the
fact
that
the
background
is
dark,
green
and
then
it
disappears
at
night
with
the
white
being
the
only
visible
element.
Also
seems
appropriate,
so
those
are
all
my
comments
if
there
are
no
further
comments
from
from
the
panel.
I
just
wanted
to
go
back
to
mr
sharma's
comment.
A
Mr
sherman,
do
you
feel,
like
you
have
the
information
that
you
need
based
on
your
comment
about
the
the
light
levels?
Was
there
I
didn't
know
if
you
were
asking,
would
they
reduce
the
light
or
just
if
they
could
so
I
just
wanted
to
return
to
that
before
we
move
forward.
I
G
It
it
would
be
adjustable,
it
could
be
dimmed,
but
again
in
terms
of
lumens
it.
It
would
all
depend
on
on
how
close
to
the
sign
you're
standing.
When
you
measure
the
light
output
and
from
street
level,
you,
wouldn't
you
wouldn't
pick
up
that
sign.
A
G
It
I
believe
it's
smaller,
but
the
same
aspect
ratio
I
can.
I
could
get
the
dimensions
of
it.
A
That's
it
that's!
Okay!
I
see
that
it's
fitting
within
okay,
if
there
are
no
other
further
comments
from
the
panel
I'd
like
to
ask,
if
there's
a
motion.
A
Oh,
thank
you,
sir
sorry.
I
didn't
know
that
julie
had
joined
and
sorry
matt.
If
I
had,
I
thought
I
called
matt
and
he
didn't
have
comments
but
julie.
Sorry,
if
you
do
have
comments
or
matt,
if
you
have
additional,
please
let
me
know,
I
don't
have
any
additional
comments.
I
think
everybody
covered
everything.
A
F
This
is
joseph
youssef
pharaoh.
I'd
be
happy
to
make
a
motion,
and
I
think
I
heard
one
comment
from
mr
sharma
about
requiring
a
a
a
licensed
engineer
to
stamp
the
sign
plan
as
it
relates
to
structural
integrity.
F
So
I
think
so
long
as
the
board's
on
the
same
page,
I'm
going
to
make
that
part
of
the
motion,
so
I
so
for
the
department
of
planning
staff
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
sign
as
presented
with
a
condition
that
the
applicant
submits
a
a
stamped
professional
engineer,
signage
plan,
as
it
relates
to
the
structural
integrity
of
the
sign.
A
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
on
the
floor.
Is
there
another
panel
member
who
would
like
to
second.
C
D
C
A
In
on
that,
any
nays
that
I
missed
anyone,
wouldn't
okay,
very
good
and
with
that
the
motion
carries
so
and
at
this
point
thank
you
presenters,
and
I
would
like
to
ask
again
my
panel
members,
if
they,
if
there's
a
motion
to
adjourn,
adjourn
this
meeting.
F
A
Yes,
it
was
are
definitely
on
record
as
one
of
our
shortest
and
do
I
have
a
second
I'll
say
julian.
Oh.
B
B
E
A
Fine
excellent
okay,
so
I
did
hear
a
second
from
miss
raw,
although
I
think
it
was
a
close
tie.
So
with
that
this,
this
session
of
the
drp
has
concluded
have
a
good
evening.
Everyone
thank
you.