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A
Amanda
I'm
the
chair
of
the
design
review
panel.
Before
we
get
into
the
meeting,
we
have
a
little
bit
of
housekeeping
to
do.
First
off
first
order
of
businesses
to
review
the
minutes
from
our
prior
meeting,
which
was
the
meeting
of
september
8th.
The
meeting
minutes
have
been
distributed
to
the
panel.
A
Are
there
any
questions
or
comments?
If
not,
can
we
have
a
motion
to
approve.
A
Roger
julie.
A
Thanks
raj
with
that,
the
minutes
from
the
seventh
september
meeting
has
been
approved.
A
Welcome
to
tonight's
meeting
before
we
start,
I
have
a
opening
statement:
baltimore
county
council
in
title
four
subtitle,
two
32-4
203
and
4
established
the
design
review
panel
drp
was
established
to
encourage
design
excellence
and
she'll
act
in
a
consulting
and
advisory
capacity
to
the
agencies
involved
in
the
process
for
reviewing
development
plans.
A
A
If
you're
speaking
on
behalf
of
a
community
group,
you
get
five
minutes
as
an
individual
two
minutes.
At
the
end
of
this
meeting,
the
design
review
panel
will
make
comments
and
recommendations
and
will
vote.
The
plan
will
either
be
approved,
approved
with
conditions
or
additional
review,
and
a
second
meeting
will
be
required
with
that.
A
I
would
like
to
turn
it
over
to
our
presenter.
The
project
tonight
is
a
residential
project
at
8315
bologna
avenue,
which
is
a
residential
review
with
that
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
the
design
team
or
the
owner
to
make
this
presentation.
D
Thank
you,
john.
Should
we
get
started
at
this
point,
it's.
A
D
You
have
the
floor.
Thank
you.
So
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
the
the
proposal
to
the
team.
Here
we
are
looking
to
create
a
single-family
residential
home
in
the
luxembourg
area,
community,
a
very
nice
green
home,
I
would
say
about
four
thousand
about
five
thousand
five
hundred
square
feet:
ballpark
on
the
that
is
part
of
the
ridge,
school
subdivision
property.
D
So
let's
go
to
the
next
type,
please
so
on
the
agenda
we
are
what
we
did
is.
Basically
we
took
the
the
checklist
provided
by
the
county
and
we
just
put
those
as
the
agenda
items.
We
will
talk
through
each
one
of
them,
hopefully
to
lay
out
the
plan
and
the
vision
that
we
have,
and
hopefully
the
the
community
here
would
agree
that
we
have
done
everything
that
we
could
to
to
satisfy
all
these
requirements
next
type,
please.
D
Thank
you
so
the
project
summary
we
are
looking
to
build
about
500
square
feet
between
5500
square
feet.
A
single
family
home
the
address
is
on
8315
below
avenue.
It's
part
of
the
ridge,
school
subdivision
property
that
was
created.
I
think
in
2002
the
lots
are
kind
of
really
secluded
private
lots.
It's
really
covered
by
or
surrounded
by
forests
on
basically
all
sites
other
than
the
the
road
facing
barona
bilona
avenue.
D
D
Due
to
the
home-
and
this
is
a
as
a
very
ski
plot
and
and
all
thanks
to
greg
that
we
have
had
to
design
this
home
to
kind
of
fit
the
lot.
This
was
not
a
typical
home
design
that
we
can,
just
you
know,
create
on
on
a
flat
lot.
So
greg
had
to
work
a
lot
with
the
with
the
train
to
make
this
make
this
possible.
So
thanks
a
lot
to
greg
for
making
this
happen,
and
we
are
looking
to
use
all
these
premium.
D
Architectural
finishes
that
helps
complement
the
area
of
construction
homes
are
the
area
homes
in
the
in
the
in
the
neighborhood,
as
well
as
the
environment,
because
you
know
this
is
a
very
beautiful
area
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
complementing
the
area
in
there.
Next
slide,
please
so
these
were
over.
Here
we
see
the
the
red
highlighted
box.
The
red
box
is
the
the
proposed
lock
that
we
are
planning
to
build
on.
D
That's
the
a315
lot,
as
you
can
see
it,
it
is
really
surrounded
by
the
forests
on
all
sides
and
on
the
back
side
on
the
circle
on
the
rich
school
circle,
we
have
some
really
nice
homes
that
are
about
5500
5000
square
feet,
plus
homes
to
the.
D
If
we
are
looking
at
this
image
to
the
left
of
this
image,
the
a305
and
8315,
the
two
properties
are
separated
by
a
pretty
significant
forest
buffer
to
the
point
where
you
cannot
even
quite
see
see
the
house
to
the
front
of
the
house,
we
have
the
the
there's
a
business
park
up
to
the
front
of
the
house
and
kind
of
to
the
to
the
north
west.
We
have
this
residential
community
pool
and
the
tennis
courts
and
we'll
see
more
details
of
this
picture
in
the
next
few
slides.
D
D
Okay,
this
is
an
interesting
picture,
because
the
site
was
very
dense.
What
I
did
is
I
stood
at
where
you
see
that
orange
camera,
that's
where
I
stood
and
each
of
these
cam
each
of
these
pictures
are
in
the
direction
that
I
have
pointed
the
arrows.
So
if
I
look
at
northwest
I'm
seeing
those
tennis
courts,
if
I
look
down
bellona
avenue,
that
is
a
shot
on
your
left.
D
If
I
look
kind
of
diagonally
towards
the
the
nelson
property,
my
neighbor's
property
you're,
seeing
the
kind
of
the
forest
cover
on
the
on
the
diagonal
corner
of
the
property.
If
you
look
in
the
the
center
bottom
picture,
that
is
the
front
facing
of
the
property.
It's
very
heavily
forested.
It's
very
heavily
covered
by
vegetation
kind
of
continuing
that
that
paranormal
panoramic
shock
view.
D
The
bottom
right
picture
is
looking
at
it:
diagonally
from
the
to
the
towards
the
east
corner
of
the
property
and
then
eventually
to
the
right.
We
have
the
shot
down
down
towards
charles
street
and,
ultimately
ending
it
northeast
looking
view
into
the
into
the
business
part
business
park
area.
So
we
try
to
give
you
the
panoramic
view
standing
on
the
opposite
corner
facing
the
facing
the
the
lot
that
we
are
talking
about
here.
D
So,
as
you
can
see,
it's
pretty
heavily
forested.
That's
basically
what
I
was
trying
to
get
to
here's
the
proposed
site
plan
for
the
property.
As
you
can
see,
the
grades
are
pretty
significant
because
of
the
steep
hill,
so
we
have
had
to
work
very
significantly
with
the
grade
and
kind
of
design
the
house
around
the
grade,
rather
than
the
opposite,
where
we
can
design
the
house
and
then
fit
it
on
the
lot.
D
We
have
actually
had
to
first
think
about
how
the
site
would
work
and
then
design
the
house
towards
that
site.
So
we
are
looking
at
the
driveway
and
and
these
this,
this
overall
plan
is
very
much
in
line
with
what
was
approved
by
the
original
development
plan.
When
this,
when
the
subdivision
was
created,
this
driveway
location
is
pretty
much
identical
to
that
same
to
that
proposed
development
plan,
including
the
retaining
walls
on
the
on
on
the
property.
For
the
most
part
they
are.
D
We
are
pretty
much
holding
the
the
approved
development
plan
that
that
that
was
submitted
and
approved
by
the
county
during
the
subdivision
process.
D
D
Next
time,
thank
you.
Here's
a
proposed
landscape
plan.
Obviously
this
site
would
would
have
some
landscape
because
we
are
looking
to
build
a
beautiful
home
there.
We
want
to
complement
that
with
appropriate
landscape,
so
we
work
with
devin
larry.
D
He
is
a
very
well-known
landscape
architect
to
to
come
up
with
this
landscape
plan
for
us
and,
as
you
can
see,
we
are
kind
of
again
leveraging
the
the
the
slope
of
the
land
and
putting
some
nice
native
trees
up
on
the
front
side
to
to
have
a
very
nice
frontage
along
below
avenue,
and
one
more
thing
to
be
called
out
is
we
have
called
out
that
a
certified
arborist
needs
to
be
present
when,
when
the
contractor,
or
the
builder
is,
is
taking
down
the
trees
on
the
lots
to
maintain
the
safety
of
the
crew
and
and
and
make
sure
that
the
trees
are
are
handled
well
with
utmost
care
and
proper
procedures
are
taken
to
to
make
sure
that
whatever
is
left
behind
is
is
left
behind
in
a
healthy
condition.
D
We
don't
want
to
disturb
the
the
surrounding
vegetations
so
that
that
note
it's
not
quite
clear
on
on
this
image,
but
that's
the
note
on
the
on
the
top
right,
where
you
see
bellona
avenue
that
note
is,
is
talking
about
that
certified
arborist
being
present
during
the
the
lot
clearing
process
next
slide,
please
what
a
photo
on
that.
So
for
this,
what
we
did
is.
I
actually
went
up.
D
I
climbed
up
on
the
hill
to
try
and
provide
photo
shots
up
from
all
the
different
angles,
while
standing
on
the
property.
So
this
this
is
the
picture
when
that
orange
camera-
that's
basically
that's
approximately
I
was
kind
of
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
guesswork
here,
but
that
orange
camera
is
where,
where
approximately
I
was
standing,
taking
a
look
towards
my
neighbor's
lock
and
you
can
see
it's
barely
even
visible.
D
D
Continuing
on
the
same
spot,
looking
south
towards
the
back
of
the
knot,
as
you
can
see,
you
know
just
because
I
know
that
the
retaining
walls
exist
in
the
back
on
the
on
the
corner
over
here.
That's
why
we,
we
can
see
them,
but
again
nothing
really
is
quite
visible
on
these.
D
Going
on
the
east
side,
it's
just
forest.
There's
really,
no
construction,
there's
nothing
on
the
east
side.
So
it's
it's
all
just
forest,
as
you
can
see
here,.
D
Then
what
we
did
is,
I
actually
came
back
down
towards
the
road,
and
this
is
approximately
where
the
house
front,
driveway
corner
would
be
or
the
parking
pad
would
be,
and
I
took
a
shot
off
from
that
point
to
the
road
facing
north
and,
as
you
can
see,
the
road
is
barely
visible.
It's
it's
kind
of
hard
to
see
through
the
through
the
the
brush
and
the
forest,
but
it
is,
it
is
partially
visible,
as
you
can
see
from
the
shot
here.
D
Now
this
is
we,
there
was
a
requirement
to
provide
surrounding
structures
and,
as
you
can
see,
there's
not
a
whole
lot
surrounding
the
the
lot.
So
what
I
did
is
I
drove
around
the
ridge
school
development.
D
D
South
side
on
the
circle
and
then
on
the
north
side,
we
have
this
big
business
park.
So
that's
the
shot
that
you
have
on
the
on
the
top
center
and
then
all
of
these
arrows
actually
point
actually
one
of
the
houses
that
is
under
construction
in
that
circle.
So
I
just
took
a
shot
off.
You
know
the
front
of
that
house,
but
these
these
shops
that
I
have
provided
basically
kind
of
show
the
lots
that
these
houses
are
situated
on
very
nice.
Looking
homes,
a
beautiful
community
over
there.
D
So,
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
kind
of
a
a
fairly
unique
house
plan
because
we
have
had
to
work
with
with
with
such
grades.
So
this
is
the
front
of
the
house.
We
have.
We
are
looking
at
the
garage
in
the
bottom
and
you
know
the
garage
is
kind
of
coming
out
in
the
front
and
it's
a
three-car
garage
home.
D
The
the
the
main
floor
is
the
we
have
got
the
kind
of
the
elevations
the
basement
regulation
is
at
410,
front,
elevation
would
be
427
and
the
second
for
elevation
will
be
440.
D
D
You
know
with
the
with
the
land
here
and
making
this
house
work
because
of
that
slope,
so
the
garage
is
is
really
all
above
ground
and
the
the
grade
of
the
land
is
such
that
garage
is
pretty
much
all
above
ground,
but
the
the
basement
is
all
underground,
and
then
the
house
kind
of
beca
using
the
garage
walls
and
the
basement.
We
are
able
to
kind
of
bring
the
house
above
above
ground.
Basically,
there
should
be
a
another
shot
that
would
this
is
the
right
side
of
the
elevation.
D
Again,
you
can
kind
of
see
the
the
braid
dropping
pretty
significantly
between
the
back
of
the
house
and
the
front
of
the
house
to
the
point
where
the
garage
is
pretty
much
all
above
ground
or
are
all
outside
the
ground,
and
the
basement
is
really
just
holding
allowing
us
to
come
up,
be
above
the
ground.
D
This
is
the
last
object,
so
you
can
see
this
is
the
the
the
current
grade.
This
dotted
line
on
the
the
diagonal
dotted
line
running
through
the
screen
is
the
current
rate
and
you
can
kind
of
see
how
the
house
is
lining
up,
so
we
have
had
to
kind
of
play
with
the
the
grade
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
the
proper
alignment
for
this
home
in
in
you.
G
D
Given
the
natural
crane
of
of
the
hill
of
the
lot,
so
we
are
cutting
in
into
the
hill
to
create
the
basement
and
using
the
basement
back
wall
as
a
kind
of
a
foundational
wall
to
hold
back
the
hill
over
there.
D
And
then
we
have
the
the
garage
and
the
parking
pad,
and
those
are
pretty
much
above
ground,
as
you
can
see
it's
partially
above
ground,
partially
and
ground
there,
and
then
the
first
floor
is
also
being
cut
into
the
cut
into
the
ground
a
little
bit
because
yeah,
just
that's
just
the
way
the
hill
was
falling
on
on
in
the
lab.
D
This
is
probably
the
more
interesting
one
is
the
floor
plans
as
you
can
see.
This
is
the
garage
on
the
front
side,
and
then
we
have
the
basement
in
the
back.
The
mud
room
climbing
up
the
stairs.
This
is
the
a
fairly
long
set
of
stairs.
That's
why
we
have
a
provision
for
an
elevator,
because
the
the
basement
would
be
there's
just
that
pure
number
of
steps
are
pretty
significant,
so
we
have
had
a
basement
pretty
high
basement
to
accommodate
for
the
slope
of
the
hill.
There.
D
This
is
the
main
floor,
so
you
can
see
here
that
in
the
basically
the
ceiling
of
the
garage
is
primarily,
you
know,
covered
patio
and
uncovered
patio.
This
is
really
all
the
garage
square
footage
here
and
then
towards
the
back
is
where
the
really
the
main
house
is
pretty
decent-sized
home.
We
believe
that
this
would
be
a
very
nice
looking
home
and
would
give
us
the
room
that
we
would
want
and
and
have
some
happy
memories
here.
D
So
we
have
a
living
room,
dining
room,
kitchen
study
and
a
guest
room
on
the
main
floor.
And
then,
if
we
flip
to
the
main
to
the
bedroom
floor,
we
have
the
master
bedroom.
On
the
main
floor,
you
had
the
master
bedroom
on
the
main
floor,
plus
two
additional
kids
bedroom
and
one
spare
bedroom
on.
On
the
second
floor.
D
So
since
this
house
is
really
not
built
yet
we
wanted
to
give
you
the
most
realistic,
look
and
feel
for
this
proposed
house.
So
as
a
consumer
as
a
homeowner,
I
know
as
an
architect
as
a
professional.
You
guys
would
be
able
to
envision
just
based
on
cut
sheet,
but
I
wanted
to
give
you
the
actual
feel
of
the
house
that
we
are
going
for
and
I
and
in
the
end
we
do
have
the
the
specified.
D
You
know
the
the
cut
sheets,
samples
and
all
those
called
out,
but
these
are
the
types
of
inspirational
pictures
that
that
we
are
really
going
for.
You
can
see
the
the
white
hardy
plank,
the
the
stone.
This
is
actually
a
home.
This
was
this
was
the
starting
point
of
our
inspirations,
and
this
is
a
home
that
was
actually
built
in
the
last
year,
maybe
two
years
in
in
roxton
and
it's
a
beautiful
home
in
modern
farmhouse,
that's
really
the
style
that
we
are
looking
for
as
well.
D
So
this
is
one
where
we
are
using
the
the
white
hardy
siding
the
black
roof,
the
black
windows.
You
know
very
modern,
farmhouse,
look
and
feel,
and
if
we
let's
go
to
the
next
slide
and
I'll
start,
calling
out
more
of
the
specific
features
that
we're
talking
about
so
here,
the
the
stonework
that
we
have
called
out
in
our
plans
is.
This
would
be
the
look
of
the
stone.
The
final
finished
stone
in
the
bottom.
D
We
have
called
out
the
types
of
lights.
These
are
basically
the
the
exact
form
of
light
for
this
modern
farmhouse.
We
called
out
the
wall
sconce
on
the
on
all
their
sphere,
doors
that
would
be
the
type
of
wall
sconce
that
we
have
called
out.
This
is
again
from
from
these
homes
that
we
have
put
here.
One
item
is
we
have
an
interplay
between
vertical
board
and
batten,
hardy
siding
and
horizontal
lap
siding
are
designing
both
in
arctic
white.
D
So
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
are
able
to
show
that
same,
look
and
feel
in
this
picture
as
well,
where
we
have
some
vertical
siding
going
on
and
then
right
next
to
it
is
it's
kind
of
being
complemented
by
some
some
horizontal
siding
as
well.
D
I'm
excited
this
is
a
my.
This
is
one
of
my
favorite
ones.
This
one
has
a
little
bit
more
detail,
more
clarity
to
the
picture.
This
one
calls
for
the
same
type
of
roof
that
we
have
called
out
for
the
standing
seam
metal
groove
that
we
have
called
out
for
for
the
all
the
accent
pieces
on
the
on
the
left,
and
this
one
has
all
the
casement
type
windows
that
we
have
called
out
for,
including
some
of
the
transom
style
windows.
D
On
the
top
floor
that
that
we
have
called
out
for
as
well
in
our
in
our
dining
room
and
and
things
of
that
nature.
So.
A
Excuse
me,
mr
shark,
with
these
inspirational
photos,
since
they
seem
to
be
getting
a
little
repetitive.
Can
we
just
go
on
to
the
actual
finishes,
you're
planning
to
use
absolutely
just
in
the
interest
of
time.
D
Absolutely
thank
you
so
yeah
we
can
skip
this
one
skip.
Okay,
there
we
go
so
these
are
the
actual
finishes.
We
have
called
out
the
the
again
modern
farmhouse
style
white
garage
doors.
This
is
the
stonework
that
we
have
called
out
for
it's
a
it's.
A
tight
stack,
stone,
stone
veneer,
the
all
these
vertical
sidings
that
you
see
are
all
board
and
baton
party
sightings.
D
The
windows
are
black
casement
windows.
The
french
doors
are
again
black
french
doors
with
full
panel
glass.
We
have
called
out
the
brass
cones
on
the
top.
I'm
gonna
show
what
that
extra
lighting
would
look
like
and
all
of
these
standing
metal
roof
that
you
see
on
the
picture.
These
are
all
basically
going
to
be
standing
standing,
seam,
metal,
roofing
at
the
roof,
the
main
roof
of
the
house.
D
We
are
going
to
explore
using
solar,
but
I
know,
given
the
terrain,
solar
may
or
may
not
be
possible,
and
we
won't
know
about
it.
Till
we
have
till
we
have
been
able
to
do
a
actual
study
on
the
efficacy
of
solar
in
the
area
of
of
the
solar
in
the
on
that
particular
house.
So
that's
why
we
have
called
out
for
either
or
either
it
will
be
a
solar
black
fiberglass
roof.
D
D
Next
slide,
please,
on
the
east
side,
kind
of
continuing
the
same
theme.
The
roofing
is
same
thing
on
this
one.
We
have
the
the
lap
siding
the
hardy
lap
siding
in
arctic
white.
We
have
called
out
the
casement
windows.
We
have
the
pivot
door
right
there
that
we
see
here
again.
The
same
cable
railing
is
continuing
on
on
the
east
side
as
well,
and
all
of
these
vertical
segments
that
you
see
are
again
called
out
with
the
the
same
wooden
batting
party
siding.
D
We
also
have
some
single
patio
door
entrances,
so
we
have
the
double
doors.
French
doors
that
is
called
out
as
again
in
black
with
full
panel
glass
and
the
single
doors
are
called
out
with
a
three-quarter
panel
gas,
because
that's
that
I
think
that
single
doors
look
better
with
three-quarter
pounder
rather
than
the
full
panel
glass.
D
Okay,
so,
regarding
the
committee
meeting,
we
actually,
I
actually
met
at
the
time
that
this
presentation
was
submitted.
These
calls
were
initiated,
but
but
subsequently
we
actually
have
met
with
the
the
drp.
I'm
sorry,
not
the
dip,
but
the
russian
writer
would
association
homeowners
association
as
well
as
with
the
ridge
school
association
as
well,
and
I
believe
there
will
be
some
members
on
the
call
from
from
both
of
them
and
the
feedback
that
we
received
was
very
positive.
D
The
feedback
we
received
was
that
you
know
just
making
sure
that
we
have
the
arborist
present
just
like
it
was
called
in
the
original
development
plan,
which
we
completely
intend
to
do
anyways.
So
there
was
no.
There
was
no
red
flags
that
were
raised
by
by
either
of
the
committees,
so
we
feel
very
good
about
that.
We
got
some
really
good
feedback
from
from
both
meetings
that
we
have
already
incorporated
into
into
our
plan
process.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
think
we
can
go
on
to
the
panel
portion
of
the
meeting.
Thank
you
since
this
is,
and
thank
you
thank
you
for
the
thoroughness
of
the
submitted
material
and
your
presentation
tonight.
Since
this
is
a
residential
project,
our
residential
reviewer
fran
anderson
will
go
first.
G
H
Oh
hi
there
thank
you
for
taking
a
call
charade.
Thank
you.
Your
presentation
was
exactly
as
we
remember
speaking
to
you
last
week.
I
just
simply
wanted
to
remind
the
panel
that,
as
part
of
the
bridget
ruxton
hoa,
the
final
architectural
approval
is
required
from
the
ridgid
ruxton
architectural
committee
per
covenants
that
we
have
at
this
stage.
H
G
G
B
For
the
very
thorough
presentation,
I'm
gonna
sort
of
give
you
some
of
the
the
context
of
what
my
comments
are
about
and
some
of
the
ones
we
sort
of
already
touched
on.
You
know,
if
you
look
at
your
photo
array
or
your
neighboring
properties,
I
think
it
was
that
you
had
shown
a
lot
of
the
the
ridge
ruxton
or
the
ridge
properties
and
the
commercial
property.
B
That's
all
fine,
but
but
to
be
perfectly
honest
with
you
when
I
look
at
this
property,
the
properties
that
provide
context
for
it
are
those
along
bologna
avenue,
not
those
behind
you.
Because
if
you
stand
on
bologna
and
look
at
your
house,
you
can't
see
the
homes
up
on
ridge
on
the
hill.
But,
as
you
drive
bellona,
you
see
the
other
homes
and
to
be
perfectly
fair,
the
other
homes
on
blowing.
Look
nothing
like
the
array
that
you
have
here
and
they're
quite
a
bit
smaller.
B
They
tend
to
be
much
more
secluded
and
covered
and
and
harder
to
see
and
not
have
the
three
floors
out
of
the
ground.
Basically,
because
you
have
your
garage
and
then
you
have
two
on
top
most
of
those
houses
tend
to
be
either
single
story
with
an
exposed
garage,
potentially
or
two-story,
where
the
where
the
garage
is
not
visible.
B
So
if
you
were
to
google
map-
and
you
know,
take
a
ride
down
blowing
or
whatever
you
want
to
do
to
me,
that's
the
context
in
which
you
need
to
sort
of
look
at
your
house
and
not
the
context
of
the
ridge
property,
because
you
just
can't
even
see
that
from
bologna
road.
So
my
comments
are
all
basically
about
sort
of
in
that
context,
not
in
the
context
of
the
other
properties,
and
I
would
encourage
the
other
members
of
the
panel
to
sort
of
think
about
the
same
way.
B
The
big
thing
is,
I
have
questions
about.
Is
I
don't
really
understand
the
areas
we
discussed
a
minute
ago
where
an
arborist
would
be
present,
because
what
I
want
to
see
happen
is
as
much
of
that
retaining
wall
we
have
in
the
front,
which
is
very
large
at
a
couple
spots.
It's
it's
upwards
of
11
feet
in
the
middle
of
the
retaining
wall
right
and
as
much
of
your
garage
to
become
as
to
disappear,
essentially
as
much
as
possible
right,
because
it
is
somewhat
abrupt
to
have
an
11
foot
retaining
wall.
B
J
Go
to
the
cross
section,
it's
a
little
bit
more
clear
and
by
the
way
the
hoa
is
the
one
that
required
the
barbarous
that
was
not
us
so
that
that
was
required
by
the
hoa
so,
which
is
fine
zoom
in
so
believe
me.
If,
if
you
think
we
shouldn't
have
the
arbor
chris
there,
I'm
sure
sharad
will
have
a
problem.
B
G
Interrupt
for
a
second,
this
is
jennifer
from
the
planning
department.
The
approved
development
plan
fran,
the
property
line
out
to
bologna
avenue
is
county
right-of-way,
so
they
cannot.
C
J
J
Zoom
in
on
the
lower
retaining
wall,
if
you
can,
you
know
and
unfortunate.
Unfortunately,
the
house
design
and
the
the
lot
in
the
retaining
wall
is
a
if
it's
a
if
it's
a
it's
a
terrible
word
to
use,
but
it's
a
casualty
of
the
grade,
sure
so
yeah.
So
unfortunately,
mrs
mccoonis
musculus
from
site
right
wasn't
able
to
make
this
meeting
and
she
could
speak
a
little
better
than
I
can.
But
it
is
a
nine
foot
retaining
wall,
not
an
11
foot.
B
B
Sure
and
then
it
goes
so
two
questions
one
did
you
consider
doing
a
stepped
instead
of
one
wall,
doing
a
tiered
terrorist
or
step
two
wall
approach?
There's
three
walls.
J
B
J
B
B
J
Excuse
me:
okay,
mrs
muscarinis
did
not
consider
that
no.
B
D
Exactly
that's
exactly
what
I'm
going
to
say
so
so,
in
fact,
what
I'm
going
to
say
fran
is
this
note
is
kind
of
hard
to
see
because
of
the
the
scale,
but
this
node
actually
calls
that
any
vegetation
we
would
in
fact
the
lod
says
that
it
will
follow
the
property
line,
kind
of
kind
of
way
close
to
where
the
retaining
wall
is
is
shown
on
the
on
the
sideline.
So
we
are
not
planning
on
touching
anything
beyond
that
anyways.
D
On
top
of
that,
we
also
called
saying
that
the
arborist
would
be
pleasant
even
for
the
area
that
we
are
removing
in
the
lot.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
the
arborist
is
present
so
that
we
don't
impact
anything
else
outside
of
it,
because
you
know
these
root
systems
could
be
all
intertwined
and
whatnot.
So
that's
the
reason
why
that
arborist
experts
was
called
out
to
make
sure
that
whatever
is
left
behind
is
is
left
in
a
healthy
condition,
understood.
B
D
Actually,
friends,
if
I
did,
I
have
the
source
document,
it
says
existing
wooded
area
to
remain
the
tree
and
it
says.
I
D
B
F
I
B
Moving
forward,
then,
under
the
auspices
that
that
is
going
to
stay,
my
concerns
about
the
exposure
of
the
wall
are
much
less
than
they
were.
If
you
can
just
go
then
to
the
architectural
front
elevation,
I
only
have
a
couple
of
comments.
B
So
one
question:
I
have
about
this
front
elevation
on
the
let's
see
right
hand:
side
as
you
look
at
the
elevation
you
have
party
plank
on
the
second
level
or
what
is
your
first
living
level
right,
yeah
right
where
your
cursor
is
right
there,
it's
really
busy.
You
got
the
board
and
baton
to
the
right,
the
board
and
bat
and
above
it
you
got
the
hardy
plank
going
across
is
the
intention
is
that
you're
carrying
it
across
from
the
left-hand
side?
Is
that
the
idea
that
it
continues
through
that
area
so.
D
Actually
this
because
we
are
looking
at
this
in
a
2d
view
and
not
a
3d
view,
it's
it's
yeah,
that's
very
busy.
The
thing
is
that
the
the
wall-
this
is
a
small
yeah,
the
area
under
that
that
awning
is
a
covered
patio,
so
this
will
be
broken
up,
because
this
will
be
13
feet
forward
behind
that
wall
that
you're
seeing
there
so
right
now
in
a
flat
view,
it
is
shown
as
a
it
has
all
merged
together,
but
in
a
3d
view
that
stone
wall
will
be
13
feet
in
the
front.
D
Hence
that
would
be
a
lot
more
aesthetically
pleasing.
I
did
this
personally
using
my
son's
3d
modeling
basic
3d
modeling
capability,
and-
and
we
felt
that
this
looked
really
good
in
an
actual
3d
view.
B
B
Right
that
makes
sense
now
it
makes
sense
to
me
because
it
was
very
busy
there,
it
kind
of
didn't
really
fit.
So
my
main
concern
is
I
like
what
you
did
you
know
trying
to
you.
I
know
you
have
a
lot
of
hill
behind
you
to
sort
of
disguise
the
mass
of
the
house,
but
again
going
back
to
the
context
of
what's
up
what
else
is
on
bologna.
B
My
main
concern
is
around
this
front:
pediment.
Okay,
if
you
go
to
a
side,
elevation
or
section
okay,
you
do
it
right
perfect.
Just
like
that,
you
do
a
nice
job,
stepping
the
house
back
after
the
garage.
That
makes
a
lot
of
sense
right
and
then
the
majority
of
the
top
floor
does
step
back.
But
you've
brought
this
one
section
with
where
this
pediment
is
out
forward
and
as
I
look
at
your
floor
plans,
you've
got
a
covered
patio
and
on
the
top
level
it
looks
like
a
large
open
space
right.
F
B
What
you
have
I
mean
from
my
perspective
and
I'd
be
interested
in
other
panel
members
to
talk
about
this.
If
they
care
to
you
know
if
the
house
continued
to
step
back
and
that
pediment
and
that
elevation
or
that
that
that
room
on
the
top
floor
also
stepped
back
a
little
bit
more
in
line
with
where
the
rest
of
the
floor
is
not
all
the
way
back,
because
I
know
you
have
an
elevator,
that's
coming
up
there
and
everything
just
across
from
there.
B
D
Of
things,
that's
the
comment
right,
so,
if
you
actually
flip
back
to
the
main
main
one,
please
we
initially
way
back
way
back.
When
we
first
started
this,
we
had
originally
thought
about
making
that
into
a
balcony
as
well,
but
then
it
really
looked
as
if
it
was
kind
of
like
a
flat
piece
of
paper
more
than
more
than
an
actual
dimension.
There
was
because
you
can
see
this
house
is
a
very
flat
house
from
all
the
other
sites.
There
was
just
no
other
dimension
in
the
house.
We
actually
intentionally.
D
You
can
see
that
in
the
floor
plan,
it's
not
like
we
have.
We
have
a
bedroom
there
about
anything,
and
it's
like
that
right
in
order
to
give
that
dimension.
This
view
to
me
as
a
homeowner
looks
a
lot
a
lot
better,
because
this
is
the
only
dimension.
This
is
the
only
face
of
the
house
that
has
some
dimension.
All
of
the
all
of
the
faces
of
the
house
are
flat,
so
we
were
actually
concerned
that
this
would
look
more
like
a
square
box
and
not
like
a
pretty
home.
B
Right
and
I
appreciate
I
appreciate
the
articulation
of
the
elevation
and-
and
I
think
that
you
could
potentially
pull
that
back
and
still
keep
it
as
a
feature,
but
you
got
to
realize
I'm
also.
What
I
keep
saying
is,
I
am
looking
at
this
in
the
context
of
the
neighborhood
and
the
other
homes
along
below,
okay,
not
just
individually
as
a
house,
and
I
appreciate
what
you're
saying
as
a
homeowner.
B
What
you're
looking
for,
I
just
think
flip
to,
if
you
just
flip
to
the
third
floor
floor
plan,
real,
quick
and
I'll
wrap
this
up,
because
I
know
we're
running
behind
you
know.
B
Let's
just
comment:
other
folks
in
the
panel
may
feel
differently.
Not
you
know
they
can
speak
to
that,
but
that
was
my
that
that
was
my
only
other
concern.
I'm
finished
john.
The.
A
I'm
sorry,
mr
rob
schrub
it's
at
point
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
rest
of
the
panel.
The
comments
been
made,
there'll
be
more
when
a
final
motion
is
made
up
with
that.
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
julie,
sauce.
C
I
echo
some
of
the
same
concerns
about
the
retaining
wall
height
and
also
as
a
landscape,
architect,
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
the
plant
material
on
the
back
on
the
back
wall
in
between
I,
like
that,
you
kept
the
trees
to
the
edge,
but
with
the
height
of
that
and
the
tie
backs,
I
think
you're
going
to
need
to
consult
the
retaining
wall
manufacturer
to
make
sure
that
you
can
plant
some
of
those
shrubs
back
there.
C
D
Right
so
I
think
that
once
the
walls
are
engineered,
then
we
would
have
a
little
bit
better
idea.
You
know
once
once
we
have
the
approval,
then
we
can
actually
get
to
the
geotechnical
side
of
the
wall
and
then
we
might
have
to
adjust
the
plant
material
on
the
top,
as
you
suggested.
A
A
So
I'm
gonna
go
down
my
comments
that
I
made
to
myself
prior
to
the
presentation,
so
I
I
picked
up
the
same
comment
that
fran
had
regarding
the
arborist
note.
I
still
have
some
concern
about
the
retaining
wall.
I
am
glad
to
hear
that
the
material
in
the
foreground,
the
plant
material
between
the
property
line
and
the
road,
or
essentially
from
your
limit
of
disturbance
to
the
extent
possible
to
the
property
line
and
then
from
the
property
line
to
the
road
will
be
undisturbed.
A
This
is
a
big
house
for
this
site.
As
fran
indicated
it's
much.
It's
got
more
mass
than
the
adjacent
properties.
That
said,
I
know
that
some
of
those
properties
probably
date
back
to
the
70s,
the
material
on
the
retaining
wall.
That's
going
to
be
a
segmented
retaining
wall.
D
And
that
picture
that
you
see
on
the
on
that
is
actually
from
the
existing
wall.
That
is
on
the
same
side.
So
we
want
to
maintain
that
same.
We
don't
want
like
a
patchwork
of
stuff.
We
want
to
maintain
that
same
harmony
with
the
other
walls
that
are,
on
the
same
same
location,.
A
E
A
A
You
know-
and
I
I
think
there
there
are
some
options
to
do.
You
know,
even
if
it's,
whether
you
step
that
loft
back
a
little
bit
or
you
maybe
use
a
truncated
hip
that
would
lower
the
mass
of
the
gable.
A
H
J
Sure
so
the
the
front
sticks
out
from
the
balcony
six
feet.
So
if
we
slide
it
back,
six
feet
from
a
2d
standpoint
is
that
is
that
the
difference
there.
J
That
doesn't
that
doesn't
interfere
with
the
balcony
because
that's
eight
feet
to
the
balcony,
but
it's
six
feet.
I'm
sorry,
eight
feet
to
the
elevator
and
six
feet
to
the
balcony.
So
if
we
slide
it
six
feet
back
again
from
a
2d
standpoint,
when
I
look
at
the
front
elevation,
it
slides
back
six
feet.
A
D
J
J
So
if
I'm
sliding
the
loft
back
six
feet
is
that
in
a
2d
presence
from
bologna
is
is,
is
that
is
that
what
we're
looking
for
here.
D
But
actually
greg,
I
don't
believe
that
just
that
there's
only
that's
that's
the
reason
why
we
have
those
balances
to
kind
of
taper
the
house
back
just
that
one
area
I
so
is
adds
to
the
dimension
of
the
house
moving
it
back.
I
did
that
on
my
son's
3d
model
and
it
looked,
it
did
not.
Look
if
you
remember
that's
how
we
had
started,
but
it
did
not
look
good
at
all.
No.
J
No,
I
tried,
I
completely
agree
with
you.
Excuse
me,
I
I'm
on
your
side
here
I.
What
I'm
asking
is
because,
based
on
the
comment
that
we
received
is
that
that
center
section
was
out
too
far.
So
is
six.
I
guess
I'm
asking
is
six
feet,
sliding
it
back
enough
that
it
would
not
be
as
opposing
as
what
it
may
seem.
I
guess
is
the
is
the
proper
terminology.
A
That's
a
great
question:
I
mean
it's
it's
if
it
was
a
three-dimensional
view
in
this
presentation,
we
probably
would
have
a
better
idea
of
that.
It's
just
it's
a
big
facade,
but
you
know
you
are,
you
know
fairly
far
back
from
the
road,
what
what's
the
distance
from
the
road
100
feet?
Yes,.
B
J
Well,
that's
the
landscape
plan.
There
you
go,
let's
see
yeah
60
feet
to
the
property
line,
but
that's
not
to
the
road.
A
And
to
answer
your
question,
I
think
greg
where
you
were
going
at
that
distance.
Is
that
six
feet
really
going
to
make
that
big
of
a
visual
difference
from
the
road
and
my
feeling,
probably
not
whether
it's
where
you've
got
it
shown
or
back
six
feet?
I
I
don't
think
it
has
a.
I
don't
think
the
difference
is
going
to
be
that
significant.
B
Okay,
some
kind
of
person's
going
to
be
john.
You
know
I
raised
that
point
as
a
point
of
conversation
here
to
get
to
this
conclusion
right
to
everybody's
opinion
as
to
will
it
have
an
impact.
So
so
I,
if,
if
we
as
a
panel,
think
it's
not
going
to
have
an
impact,
I'm
okay
with
that,
I
think
it's
a
reasonable
conversation
and
I
don't
think
that
there's
any
you
know
point
in
chasing
it.
If
it's
not
going
to
happen.
A
Okay
period,
thank
you
fran,
with
that
the
panel
part
of
the
discussion's
over
fran
as
a
residential
project.
Would
you
like
to
make
a
motion.
B
I
I
guess
the
only
my
only
hesitation
I
could
make
a
motion
is
sort
of
memorializing.
This
concept
that
that
you
know
the
the
the
area
between
blowing
the
road
and
the
the
property
line
is
not
going
to
be,
you
know,
pruned
or
tree
removal
happening
there
and
it
seemed
like
there
was
a
meeting
of
the
mines
with
the
homeowner
as
well.
Right,
you
know
I
just
my
concern
was
the
note
on
the
drawing
indicated
it
might
be.
A
Well,
I
think
we
just
note
in
the
motion
that
the
area
of
the
right-of-way,
the
area
within
the
right-of-way
will
not
be
disturbed
by
this
project.
Right.
Okay,.
B
B
So
the
motion
is
that
the
project
be
approved
at
the
area
within
the
right
way
not
be
disturbed,
except
for
the
driveway
and
entrance
area.
As
shown
on
the
drawing
okay.
F
A
G
Okay,
do
you
guys
think
you
captured
that
I
I
don't?
Was
it
a
conditional
approval.
E
G
It
right
so
when
we,
when
we
write
up
the
minutes
and
we
write
out
the
conditional,
you
know
approved
condition
upon
the
the
note
being
changed.