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A
D
C
And
just
to
check
mr
sharma.
C
Okay,
so
we'll
proceed
and
hope
that
he
will
join
us
so
tonight's
agenda,
we
will
be
reviewing
two
submittals:
the
carriello
residence
on
1405,
west
joppa,
road
and
banditos
restaurant
on
31,
allegheny
avenue.
C
Marta
is:
are
there
any
changes
to
the
agenda?
I
think
you
notice
noted
the
one
and
number
three
will
be
rescheduled.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
that's
correct,
very
good,
all
right,
we'll
move
on
to
the
minutes
of
the
october
13th
meeting
in
the
october
27th
email
that
the
panel
members
received
you
received
a
draft
of
those
minutes.
Has
everyone
on
the
panel
had
an
opportunity
to
review
the
draft
minutes.
C
C
I'll
assume
none.
I
know
everyone
did
review
them.
If
not,
who
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
accept
the
minutes
as
circulated.
C
Excellent,
thank
you
and
all
in
favor,
if
you
could
all
just
say,
aye
or.
E
C
Okay,
there
might
have
been
an
overlap,
but
unless
anyone
says
nay,
I
will
accept
that
as
a
as
a
unanimous
vote
of
approval
very
good.
So
I'm
going
to
read
an
opening
statement
just
to
go
over
the
the
the
process
of
the
design
review
panel
and
how
it
was
established.
C
C
C
These
can
relate
to
the
topographical
characteristics,
the
natural
and
built
features
of
the
site,
as
well
as
surrounding
areas
of
the
site,
visual
and
functional
integration
of
streetscapes,
pedestrian
pathways,
playgrounds,
recreational
amenities
and
parks,
streets
and
sidewalks,
and
to
be
sure
that
they
are
laid
out
in
a
safe
and
convenient
manner,
and
that
parking
is
a
positive
design
element.
Buildings,
parking
garages
and
other
structures
are
spatially
and
visually
integrated
and
suitable
to
their
surroundings
in
terms
of
mass
type
of
materials,
color,
signage
and
other
elements.
C
Plant
materials
are
selected
and
cited
to
define
the
site
and
provide
a
theme
frame,
views,
enhance
architecture
in
the
street
character
and
improve
the
micro
climate,
provide
transition
between
dissimilar
uses
and
screen,
objectionable
views
and
uses,
and
also
reduce
noise
levels
and
glare
and
carrying
out
its
duties.
The
drp
utilizes
guidelines,
plans
and
architectural
principles
and
the
comprehensive
manual
of
development
policies
and
or
master
plan,
as
well
as
other
guidelines.
Certain
areas
of
the
county
were
designated
by
the
county
council
to
require
review
by
the
drp
if
a
site
falls
within
it.
C
The
panel
will
provide
technical
review
of
the
proposed
projects
to
note
issues
relative
to
zoning
setback,
relief,
environmental
and
stormwater
management.
Traffic
regulations
do
not
fall
under
the
purview
of
the
drp
and
are
regulated
through
the
appropriate
agencies.
Therefore,
we
do
not
review
or
address
those
items,
and
the
panel,
as
we
noted,
consists
of
nine
member
members,
all
our
professionals
with
practical
knowledge
and
matters
of
design
and
for
the
purposes
of
making
recommendations
on
a
particular
project.
Three
of
those
members
shall
constitute
a
quorum.
We
have
a
quorum
this
evening,
so
we
will
proceed.
C
The
attendance
and
comments
of
each
member
will
be
recorded
in
the
minutes,
which
will
be
an
open
record
and
available
along
with
all
documents
submitted
to
the
panel
for
inspection
and
copying
by
the
public.
There
will
be
an
opportunity
for
the
community
to
offer
comments
and
suggestions
at
the
conclusion
of
the
applicant's
presentation.
C
I'll
just
note
that
there
are
up
on
screen
marta's
shared
screen.
You
can
see
how
to
submit
comments,
so
please
follow
those
directions
on
the
left
side
of
the
screen
when
a
speaker
is
called
up
to
speak.
Please
keep
your
comments
focused
on
design
perspectives
within
your
allotted
two
minutes
time.
If
you're
speaking
on
behalf
of
a
community
group,
you
will
get
five
minutes
at
the
conclusion
of
the
meeting.
The
department
of
planning
will
sum
up
the
recommendations
of
the
panel
before
a
motion
for
vote
is
suggested.
C
Recent
legislation
has
changed
the
panel's
recommendation
to
the
advisory
on
the
hearing
officer
and
the
various
county
agencies.
Unless
the
hearing
officer
agencies
find
that
the
panel's
actions
constitute
an
abuse
of
its
discretion
or
are
unsupported
by
the
documentation,
evidence
presented,
this
position
of
the
plan
will
be
determined
as
either
approved,
approved
with
conditions
or
additional
review,
with
a
second
meeting
being
required.
C
So
with
that,
we
will
move
to
the
the
first
agenda
item,
which
will
be
the
carriello
residence
on
1405,
joppa,
road
and
presenter.
You
have
the
floor.
Marta
will
move
through
your
slides.
Please
let
her
know
to
advance
the
floor.
Is
yours.
F
Thanks
cecily,
my
name
is
fred
sheckles,
I'm
the
owner
of
tenno's
homes,
I'm
here
tonight
with
my
client,
erica
carriello
and
my
work
colleague,
ali
jones
who's
done
a
lot
of
the
heavy
lifting
on
the
selections,
I'm
going
to
move
pretty
quickly,
there's
49
pages,
but
I'm
here,
but
I
know
everyone's
seen
this
and
exuded.
So
I'm
going
to
move
pretty
quick
on
next
slide.
Please!
F
F
F
This
is
a
look
from
the
driveway
or
the
lot
out
to
west
chapel
road,
the
property.
This
lot
itself
is
two
and
a
half
acres
of
which
about
0.7
acres
is
within
a
forest
buffer.
So
these
mature
trees
provide
a
good
buffer
to
west
chopper
road,
not
just
for
this
house,
but
the
other
two
houses
on
the
cul-de-sac.
Next
slide,
please
to
the
right
is
a
lot
we're.
Building
on
straight
ahead
is
the
adjacent
property
to
the
west
next
slide.
Please.
F
F
Again,
this
is
looking
back
up.
The
common
drive
great
mature
trees
in
the
backyard
next
slide.
Please,
these
are
the
two
houses
on
the
cul-de-sac.
1401
has
some
early
american
influences.
F
1403
is
is
a
lot
of
what
we're
seeing
now,
which
is
modern
farmhouse,
which
is,
and
both
houses
are
really
consistent
with
our
proposal
tonight,
we're
about
3
500
square
feet
again
consistent
with
a
couple
houses
on
this
cul-de-sac.
Next
slide.
Please.
F
F
F
There
are
mature
trees
in
the
backyard,
but
we're
providing
some
augmentation,
particularly
with
the
buffer
one,
to
provide
privacy
for
erica
and
also
as
you're
as
you're
coming
down.
You
know
that
entry
sequence
into
the
cul-de-sac
we
wanted
to
provide
some
screening
so
you're,
not
looking
immediately
at
the
back
inside
of
the
the
proposed
house
next
slide.
Please.
F
I'm
going
to
skip
over
a
lot
of
these
because
some
of
it
is
redundant.
We
do
our
a
lot
of
our
design
in-house
and
then
go
out
to
an
architect
for
our
permit
plans.
So
when
you
see
something
with
a
dimension,
that's
in
cad,
that's
from
our
architect,
if
you're
looking
for
any
particular
dimensions,
that's
what's
going
to
dictate,
but
we've
provided
our
design
as
well.
Next
slide.
Please
next
slide.
F
Okay,
here's
a
good
place
to
stop
for
a
second,
so
exterior
materials,
siding
is,
is
proposed
to
be
james,
hardy,
fiber
cement,
the
lab
siding
will
be
the
cobblestone
in
the
cedar.
Mill
finish.
The
board
and
batten
is
a
smooth
finish
board.
That's
going
to
be
timber
barking,
color,
roof
color
is
pewter
wood,
the
standing
seam
metal
roof
above
the
front.
Porch
is
matte
black
with
a
onyx
or
black
front
door.
F
F
Again,
a
close-up
of
the
roof,
probably
doesn't
do
it
any
justice
up
close,
but
next
slide,
please
here's
the
actual
front
door
next
slide,
please
some
light
fixtures.
These
are
the
light
fixtures
along
the
front
door.
By
the
way
the
windows
are
marvin
elevate
series,
it's
a
fiberglass,
composite
exterior
and
a
wood
interior
window.
It's
a
nice
window
for
marvin
next
slide,
please.
F
F
This
is
a
section
from
joppa
road
down
to
the
house,
there's
actually
about
15
feet
of
fall,
which
you
don't
really
appreciate
when
you
do
the
drive-
and
I
think
that's
because
of
the
wooded
buffer
in
between
you're-
not
noticing
15
feet.
Elevation
next
slide,
please.
F
F
These
are
the
neighbors
that
we
contacted
about
the
project.
We
did
get
one
response
back
from
the
neighbor
immediately
to
the
west
and
we
had
a
zoom
call,
I
believe,
on
november
4th.
The
only
really
question
was:
how
long
is
the
construction
going
to
take,
which
we
indicated
to
be
hopefully
less
than
a
year
supply
chain's
a
mess
right
now,
which
I'm
sure
everyone
knows
about,
but
I
think
we
can
get
it
done
in
10
or
11
months.
The
other
two
homeowners
on
the
cul-de-sac
erica's
met.
F
F
G
I
C
Thank
you.
I
do
believe
we.
We
saw
those
letters
of
support,
so
I
will
open
it
up
to
the
panel
members
for
discussion.
I'm
gonna
first
go
to
fran
anderson.
J
Actually,
I
think
it
looks
great.
It
fits
well
with
the
cul-de-sac,
the
other
architecture.
There.
I
saw
the
letter
from
mr
mud,
your
your
neighbor
he's
pretty
well
versed
in
real
estate
matters,
as
I
think
some
might
know.
My.
H
I
J
Actually
was,
and
I
didn't
get
a
real
close
look
at
your
landscape
plan
was
for
your
benefit.
Was
you
know,
cars
coming
down
your
drive
their
headlights?
You
know
coming
in
your
your
your
dining
area,
your
family
room,
your
kitchen
and
your
screening
area.
Just
pay
close
attention
to
your
screening
landscaping
there,
because
you're
going
to
get
some
headlights
in
there
sometimes
the
year,
but
I
think
it
looks
great
and
it
fits
really
well
and
I
don't
really
have
any
other
comments.
Thanks.
A
B
E
Yes,
okay,
I
heard
very
low,
so
there
are
some
speakers.
Yes,.
H
K
I
have
the
similar
comments
of
adding
more
buffering
along
the
driveway
and
I
also
would
add
a
little
bit
of
buffering
along
the
garage
side,
also
just
to
screen
that
from
the
neighbors
other
than
that.
I
think
it
looks
great.
D
Good
evening,
I
have
no
comments.
I
think
it's
nicely
executed
and
looks.
C
Very
good
so
I'll
just
add
in
I
you
know,
as
probably
those
of
you
who've
heard
my
comments
in
the
past.
I
you
know.
I
know
that
one
other
house
has
some
boxed
eve.
Rake
returns.
I
don't
think
of
those
as
a
very
traditional,
but
I
do
see
the
other
house
on
the
cul-de-sac.
Has
those
and
given
the
you
know
the
very
little
streetscape
or
public
realm
exposure?
C
I
think
that's
fine.
I
would
have
the
similar
comment.
The
stone
veneer,
I
think,
that's
manufactured
stone,
but
in
its
small
exposure
I
think
that's
suitable
for
this.
I
did
have
a
question
on
the
cementitious
sighting.
I
believe
there
was
both
a
wood
grain
on
the
lap,
siding
and
then
smooth
hardy
on
the
board
in
baton.
Unless
I
read
that
incorrectly
and
I
was
wondering
what
was
the-
why
the
two
different
textures
on
the
elevation.
F
C
Yeah,
typically,
I
mean
I
don't
you
know.
Unless
there's
a
specific,
you
know
rough-hewn
character
of
the
architecture.
I
would
always
recommend
smooth
because
it
mimics
what
you
would
find
in
wood
siding.
We
don't
typically
see
that
wood
grain.
Unless
again
it's
like
a
cedar,
look
or
a
rustic
look
which
I
don't
think
is
really
appropriate
to
this
architecture.
C
C
You
know
the
only
the
last
comment
I
would
make
is
the
decision
to
go
with
concrete
on
the
porch.
Again,
that's
a
personal
choice.
I
just
would
think
with
a
house
of
this
caliber.
You
would
tend
to
see
a
flagstone
paper
or
something
else
on
the
surface
and
the
walking
surface
of
the
porch.
I
believe
it
indicates
concrete
again
just
curious
on
that
decision.
F
C
Yeah,
I
I
don't
intend
to
put
these
in
the
motion.
I
just
you
know
just
just
flagged
those
as
things
that
I
would
typically
note
in
my
standard
review.
But
again
this
is
quite
a
distance,
so
I
just
wanted
to
go
back
and
ask
the
panel.
I
do
see
on
the
landscape
plan.
There
is
some
buffering
along
the
driveway.
C
I
just
wanted
to
ask
the
panel
members
if
they
thought
seeing
this
again,
that
there
was
a
need
for
additional.
I
think
they
have
placed
that
landscape
to
to
shield
the
house
and
also
just
the
the
rear
yard
space,
as
as
was
mentioned
in
the
presentation,
just
wanted
to
ask
the
panel
again
those
that
made
the
comment
if
they
feel
seeing
this
again,
that
there
is
a
need
for
additional.
I
understand,
there's
the
opposite
side,
where
there's
probably
not
a
lot
of
screening
for
the
driveway.
A
C
Good
consider
with
that,
unless
there's
any
further
discussion,
I
would
like
to
ask
if
someone
would
like
to
make
a
motion.
H
J
E
C
Excellent!
Okay.
So
now
with
that,
we'll
move
on
to
item
two,
the
banditos
restaurant
on
31
allegheny
avenue
in
downtown
towson
presenter.
The
floor
is
yours
and
please
direct
marta
to
advance
the
slides.
L
L
Marta
yeah,
so
the
project
involves
there's
the
existing
cafetroya
space
is
going
to
be
taken
from
one
type
of
restaurant
to
a
new
type
of
restaurant
shown
and
his
team
bought
the
building
and
were
trying
to
you
know
limit.
L
You
know
it's
replacing
a
restaurant
with
a
restaurant
so
with
that
we're
also
looking
at
exterior
modifications
to
the
main
parts
of
the
building
go
ahead
and
advance
locations
on
allegheny
on
the
west
side
is
parking
lot
on.
The
east
side
is
a
small
building
and
another
parking
lot
go
ahead
and
dance.
This
is
the
front
as
it
exists
today
there
are
it's
a
black
concrete
panel
building.
L
He
has
existing
awnings
red
awnings,
oval
awnings.
That
will
be
coming
off
the
there's.
You
know
a
couple
of
street
trees
and
a
street
light
parking
in
the
front
going
next.
L
This
is
the
side
facing
the
main
parking
lot
on
the
west,
which
currently
has
a
couple
of
murals
and
a
box
sign
for
the
restaurant
and
a
box
sign
for
one
of
the
office.
Tenants
above
go
ahead.
L
L
L
H
L
This
is
the
view
from
allegheny
looking
west
towards
the
building.
You'll
see,
there's
a
small
building
on
the
front
side
there
most
of
that
facade
is
covered
up.
There
currently
exists
a
couple
of
box
signs
as
well
cafe
troya
and
the
yoga
tenant.
L
L
This
is
the
overall
site
plan.
You
can
see
the
deck
in
the
back
existing.
There
are
two
existing
tree
wells
at
the
front
and
big
parking
lot.
We're
not
doing
a
whole
lot,
we're
not
doing
anything
with
the
existing
sidewalk
go
ahead.
L
This
is
the
floor
plan.
The
main
couple
of
items,
the
current
restaurant.
You
enter
the
restaurant
from
the
office
lobby,
we're
changing
that
to
have
the
entrance
of
the
restaurant
right
onto
the
sidewalk
directly
and
currently,
there
are
two
double
doors:
glass
doors
that
face
out
onto
the
sidewalk
from
the
restaurant,
we're
removing
those
and
putting
three
glass
roll-up
doors.
L
So
we're
increasing
the
amount
of
glass
on
the
sidewalk
facing
you
know
onto
the
sidewalk
and
also
having
the
ability
to
open
up
and
kind
of
the
restaurant
becomes
kind
of
an
extension
to
the
sidewalk
and
you'll
see
on
the
rear
where
the
deck
is.
We
are
removing
two
windows
and
replacing
them
with
folding
doors
so
that
it
opens
up
directly
into
the
onto
the
deck.
So
we
can
open
up
the
whole
upper
level
of
the
restaurant
next
slide.
L
L
What
we,
what
we're
proposing
is
a
sign
ban
above
the
new
rolling
doors
that
is
made
of
a
wooden
material
to
kind
of
give
it
some
warmth
right
now,
the
building's
a
big
concrete
panel
building
trying
to
you
know,
make
it
a
little
bit
more
friendly,
as
well
as
creating
a
new
entry
with
a
small
metal.
Canopy
metal
canopy
is
about
three
feet
by
five
feet
and
the
office
lobby
is
going
to
remain
where
it
is
next.
One.
L
This
is
the
facade
facing
the
parking
lot.
Our
proposal
is
to
paint
that
facade
with
a
mural
as
well
as
have
locations
for
new
tenants
or
the
office
tenants
above
which
would
be
painted
on
at
a
later
date
in
those
blocks
on
the
left
on
the
low
concrete
block
wall
on
the
back,
we
plan
to
do
another
type
of
mural
related
to
the
restaurant
as
well.
L
Next,
please,
the
rear
of
the
of
bandidos.
We
propose
one
sign
kind
of
above
the
outdoor
deck,
we're
gonna
paint
the
back
fence
and
paint
the
back
of
the
building
as
well
next
slide,
and
then
that
facade
also
painting
that
with
the
bandidos
logo
on
the
upper
facade.
So
these
are
good.
L
D
L
A
company
called
omega
light
products,
and
this
is
in
a
cyan
blue
color.
L
Next,
the
main
entry
to
the
restaurant
will
be
a
storefront
entry
door
with
a
kind
of
decorative
door
pull
there's
a
example
of
the
roll-up
doors
that
we're
gonna
do
in
the
center
and
then
on
the
back
facing
the
deck.
We
have
a
the
folding
doors,
which
is
a
nanoworm
product.
L
L
These
are
sign
drawings,
so
we
have
the
main
banditos
logo,
which
would
be
illuminated
above
the
garage
or
open.
You
know
the
roll-up
doors
and
we
have
some
paint
colors
selected
at
the
top.
L
And
these
are
just
the
detailed
drawings
for
the
murals
next,
and
then
this
relates
to
the
tenant
sign,
so
as
each
tenant
would
have
its
own
individual
sign
that
would
be
painted
as
well,
instead
of
a
big
box
sign
next,
the
rear.
B
L
C
G
I
This
is
jennifer
nugent,
I'm
the
chief
of
development
review
in
planning
and
what
I
wanted
to
do
with
our
report
before
marta
goes
ahead
and
reads
it.
I
wanted
the
panel
to
understand
the
dtd
and
what
the
drp's
role
and
responsibility
is
and
specifically
related
to
signage.
I
There
is
no
restriction
in
the
dtd
for
signage.
It
is
up
to
the
drp
to
decide.
I
Additionally,
a
tenant
of
a
building
would
not
be
permitted
to
have
signs
on
all
four
sides,
so
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
all
that
some
food
for
thought
as
you
go
through
this
review
and
and
weigh
that
carefully
at
what
kind
of
impact
this
will
have
in
the
gtd,
and
so
with
that
I
will
let
marta
read
the
report
into
the
record.
G
Thank
you
jen,
so
he
prepared
early
report
and
this
report
will
follow.
Baltimore
county's
only
regulations
quote
references
for
the
project,
conformance
with
the
regulations
as
set
forth
in
section
259
point
16
downtown
thousand
district.
G
The
applicant
does
not
change
the
existing
block.
Configuration
staff
recommend
approval
of
the
proposed
site
design
in
terms
of
parking.
The
applicant
proposes
to
use
the
existing
parking
since
there
are
no
changes.
Staff
recommends
approval
of
the
proposed
parking
in
regards
to
downtown
open
space.
G
Recommends
approval
of
the
proposed
open
space
subject
to
the
following
conditions:
number
one
provide
bike
racks
on
the
street
level
number
two
provide
an
accurate
site
plan
to
demonstrate
the
existing
conditions
and
the
correct
locations
of
the
existing
street
sheets
and
ship.
It's
along
allegheny
avenue
and
number
three
label
on
the
plan
and
provide
details
for
the
outdoor
seating
areas
along
allegheny
avenue
in
regards
to
building
principles
and
architecture.
G
Staff
recommends
approval
to
propose
architect,
architecture,
subject
to
the
following
condition:
provide
dimensions
for
the
metal,
canopy
overhangs
in
regards
to
building
materials.
The
proposed
materials
for
the
building
for
starter
innovation
are
wood,
ecothon,
aluminum,
composite
panel
system,
roll-up
doors
and
metal
economy
over
the
entryway
staff.
The
first
approval
of
the
materials
to
the
drp
in
terms
of
lighting
staff
is
unable
to
recommend
approval
of
the
lighting
based
on
the
following
number
one.
G
A
lighting
plan
showing
all
exterior
locations
of
the
light
fixtures
must
be
provided
to
make
a
proper
assessment
number
two
clarify
if
any
building
lights
will
be
provided,
if
so,
label
them
on
the
building.
Elevations
in
in
terms
of
signs
staff,
defers
approval
of
the
proposed
signage
and
the
mural
design
to
their
erp
and
offers
the
following
comments:
per
bccr,
section
450.,
the
proposed
murals
are
considered
as
a
science
and
non-mural
since
they
advertise
the
business
separately.
Signs
located
on
all
sides
of
the
building
are
not
allowed
in
any
area
of
the
county
number
two.
G
The
applicant
needs
to
consider
the
overuse
of
pink
and
blue
based
on
studies
of
other
bandits.
Restaurant,
the
application
is
more
an
accent
color
and
not
the
dominant
design
feature
in
number
three:
the
sign
advertising
the
building
address
needs
to
be
reviewed
and
accepted
the
baltimore
county
fire
department
for
appropriateness,
and
this
concludes
our
staff
report.
C
Thank
you
martha,
we'll
now
move
on
to
the
panel
discussion
when
we
will
start
with
mr
usefaro.
B
D
D
I
I
I'm
having
a
hard
time
understanding
the
murals
I'm
having
a
hard
time,
understanding
the
colors
and
to
me
it's
simply
overdone
in
terms
of
of
your
other
two
locations.
I
did.
I
did
review
those
and
I
I
first
looked
at
your
federal
hill
location
and-
and
I
looked
at
that
drove
by
and
did
the
the
google
earth
and
looked
at
it
and
it,
and
it
appears
that
you
know
that
kind
of
inline
space
has
a
sign.
M
No,
no
I'll,
let
you
finish.
We
don't
own
that
building.
So
there's
restrictions
from
the
landlord.
A
lot
of
the
color
evolutions
you're
seeing
are
the
evolution
of
our
brand
over
the
next
three
to
four
years.
Our
goal
is
to
open
up
25
bandidos,
so
we
have
five
coming
this
year:
arlington
fairfax
one
other
location
in
howard
county
that
we're
in
final
lease
terms
with
so
what
you're
seeing
here.
Just
so
you
so
you
all
are
clear
on
like
where
our
head
is.
As
far
as
this
doesn't
match.
M
Previous
banditos,
the
previous
banditos
downtown,
is
10
years
old.
So
this
is
an
evolution
of
where
we're
taking
the
brand
and
our
goal
is
eventually
to
get
to
50
and
beyond.
So
we're
looking
at
we're
working
with
people
right
now,
as
we
develop
our
brand
to
be
what
our
home
base
is
just
so
you're
clear
with
our
at
now.
If
we
have
to
tone
things
back
and
all
that
we're
absolutely
you
know,
that's
why
we're
having
these
discussions
we're
completely
open
to
whatever's
gonna
make
the
community
happy,
but
just
so
you
so
everyone's
clear.
M
The
evolution
of
our
brand
is
our
food
trucks,
all
pink
with
all
these
blues
that
we
just
purchased.
We
just
got
out
on
the
road
so
pink
and
the
blues,
and
that's
definitely
going
to
be
100
part
of
our
brand
as
we
move
forward.
But
I
completely
concur
with
a
lot
of
the
comments
that
I'm
already
hearing
as
far
as
it's
a
little
bit
much
so
I'll,
let
you
continue,
but
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there.
So
everybody
knows
where,
where
we're
coming
from.
On
our
end,.
B
D
Thank
you,
mr
white,
for
that,
so
so,
beyond
the
federal
hill.
I
then
noticed
you
had
one
in
white
marsh,
also
in
baltimore
county
and
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
avenue,
and
I
did
a
lot
of
engineering
work
on
on
that
property
and
and
noticed
that
the
colors
also
there
were
not
similar
to
this
one
and
similar
to
federal
hills.
D
You
know
you
know
a
single
sign
with
with
some
with
some
wood
on
it,
so
I
I
also
do
a
fair
amount
of
work
in
baltimore
county
as
it
relates
to
signs
and
and
what
the
outside
of
the
dt
zone
you're
you're
allowed
three
signs,
but
no
more
three
total
no
more
than
two
per
facade.
So
so
here
you're
showing
you
know
signs
around
the
building,
murals
count
for
signs,
and
I
think
it
would
really
set
a
a
poor
precedent
for
the
county.
D
From
that
standpoint,
so
you
know
I
I
when
you,
when
you
look
at
the
signage.
I
I
really
like
the
the
front,
the
the
front
kind
of
wood
paneling,
the
sign,
even
the
even
the
mural
kind
of
on
the
front.
I
I
don't
like
the
blue
and
pink
stripe
around
the
front.
I
I
don't
like
the
both
sides
with
the
pink
and
the
blue,
and
I
and
I
and
I
do
like
actually
the
sign
on
the
rear.
I
think
that's
tastefully
done
so
that.
C
I
am
going
to
see
if
I
can
bring
up
miss
raw's
comments,
of
course,
the
dog's
going
to
bark.
At
this
moment
she
had
to
step
away
to
teach
a
class
this
evening,
so
I
in
her
absence,
will
read
the
written
comments
that
she
sent
earlier
today.
So
again,
this
is
from
mizrah.
C
These
are
her
comments
for
the
banditos,
so
insufficient
information
to
grant
approval,
based
on
what
was
presented
more
information
is
desired.
On
the
following
outdoor
seating
arrangement
out
to
the
sidewalk,
two
different
versions
are
presented
or
was
submitted
and
how
they
affect
the
pedestrian
cord
or
a
lighting
level.
When
dark
lighting
plans
with
foot
candles
for
interior
exterior
would
be
helpful,
lead,
ngbs
level,
sustainability
measures.
Energy
efficiency
is
a
special
concern
with
all
the
windows
nano
doors,
though
good
for
day
lighting,
infantry
infiltration,
control,
fixtures,
etc,
recycled
or
reclaimed.
C
Materials
from
existing
restaurant
or
other
places
seems
to
go
with
the
style
depicted
and
more
sustainable.
That's
a
question:
how
is
construction
waste
going
to
be
managed
water
efficiency
measures
not
mentioned
waste
management
recycling
plan,
including
food
waste
management,
indoor,
air
quality
ventilation?
C
She
also
knows
mural
on
the
west
wall.
Colors
are
too
strong
and
don't
fit
into
the
streetscape,
also
unfair
to
surrounding
businesses,
as
their
signs
are
overshadowed
in
comparison,
recommend
considering
call
it
fuller,
palettes
closer
to
the
mural
at
bandito's
federal
hill
in
baltimore
last
comment:
mural
stripes
on
top
of
building
recommend
considering
something
closer
to
the
graphics
color
scheme
for
the
entry
door,
graphics.
So
that's
the
end
of
her
comments,
I'm
treating
those
into
record,
and
now
we
will
move
on
to
miss
sauce.
K
Thank
you
good
evening.
I
echo
some
of
the
thoughts
of
the
other
panelists
and
some
of
the
review
comments.
My
main
concern,
I
guess,
is
with
the
exterior
lighting.
K
I
know
it's
an
existing
parking
lot,
but
there
is,
it
is
towson
and-
and
we
need
to
be
mindful
of
of
creating
lit
areas
and
safe
environments
and
also
as
a
landscape
architect
from
the
from
the
front
view.
I
know
there's
that
mulch
panel
there
that's
supposed
to
be
landscaping
by
baltimore
county.
K
I
know
you're
not
really
doing
anything
any
upgrades
to
the
parking
lot,
but
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
there
was
some
additional
landscaping
put
in
in
there
for
screening
and
and
for
separating
the
parking
lot
from
pedestrian
circulation.
Thank
you.
B
Julie,
mr
sharma.
E
All
right,
I
guess
I
can
talk
now.
Thank
you
looks
like
the
color
combination
is
overpowering
rather
than
blending
into
the
you
know
the
status
table
or
the
environments.
On
that.
E
I
concur
with
the
department
of
planning's
comments.
One
more
question
I
have:
has
the
number
of
occupancy
changed
from
the
previous
business
to
the
do
you
propose
business.
C
E
Yes,
yes,.
C
Okay,
very
good,
we'll
move
to
matt
reynolds.
A
A
I
think
you
know,
I
think,
some
of
the
graphics,
the
you
know
like
with
the
view
on
the
on
the
screen.
You
know
the
some
of
the
signage
might
be
able
to
be
more
tastefully
done.
If
you
just
looked
at
using,
you
know
two
different
color
schemes
of
paint,
just
a
gloss
versus
a
matte.
You
know
a
gray
scheme
so
to
speak
so
that
you
could.
A
You
could
see
the
the
color
and
the
signage,
but
then
not
see
it.
Some
of
the
there's
some
murals
and
signage
on
the
circle.
East
property.
You
know
right
at
the
center
of
thousand,
where
they've
done
some
tricks
just
with
similar
paint
colors
but
different
finishes
where
you
get
some
texture
and
some
some
visibility,
but
it's
a
little
bit
simpler.
It
just
feels
like
a
lot
and
then
on
this
side
on
the
west
side.
A
I
think
there's
a
there's
a
view
with
the
additional
mural
on
the
side.
I
think
it's
just
you
know,
adding
different
types
of
murals
seems
to
complicate
it.
It
seems
like
there
could
be
a
you.
Could
ground
the
building
a
little
bit
and
pull
some
of
the
black
back
through
along
the
this
facade
of
the
building
to
again,
simplify
and
allow
that
facade
to
kind
of
read
around
the
corner
a
bit
more.
But
I
echo
all
the
statements.
A
I
think
it's
just
a
little
bit
too
colorful
and
the
signage
is
just
too
much
for
this
location
in
towson.
C
Right,
sorry,
that's
just
checking
off
names.
Sorry,
I
guess,
then
I'm
not.
I
think
I
went
through
everyone
else
so
so
I
would.
I
would
say
that
the
you
know
I
love
a
good
mural.
I
do
feel
like
the
side
panel.
Murals
are
more
about
signage
than
they
are
about
artistry.
So
I
do
echo
that
a
bit.
C
I
think
there
might
be
a
way
to
to
tone
it
down
a
bit,
but
still
have
some
of
that
I
mean
I
would
I
don't
mind
some
of
the
incorporation
of
the
the
brand,
the
the
taco
logo,
the
the
banditos
and
tacos
and
tequila
in
that,
but
I
agree
with
the
other
panelists
and
that
it's
a
little
bit
overdone
with
the
stripes
again
less
about.
Doesn't
let
the
artistry
of
that
logo
or
of
the
front
mural
stand
out
the
I
do.
C
I
do
like
the
idea
of
of
addressing
this
building
that
it's
a
concrete
panel
building
that
the
front
facade
is
black
and
the
the
wing
walls
are
are
more
colorful,
but
I
do
appreciate
and
echo
the
response
of
the
of
the
other
panelists
saying
that
some
of
the
building
materials
should
read
around
the
facade.
C
So
I
would
like
to
see
that
explored
and
I
you
know
I
would
echo
that
I
think
the
artistry
of
the
the
mural
at
the
entry
is
a
little
bit
more
dynamic
than
just
the
pink
and
blue
kind
of
logo
driven
mural
on
the
side
walls.
I
do
think
that
the
rear
elevation
is
appropriate.
The
signage
on
that
seems
appropriate,
and
I
know
people
do
move
along
that
alleyway.
It's
important
to
have
some
signage,
so
you
understand
where
you
might
park,
because
people
do
approach
from
the
rear
and
then
park.
C
I
believe
I
wanted
to
so
just
kind
of
echoing
the
other
comments,
the
the
other
items
that
the
county
had
brought
up.
That,
I
think,
are
important
here
are
the
bike
racks
they
indicated,
and
I
would
say
I
would
echo
that
there
should
be
bike.
Racks
installed
somewhere
on
the
parcel
that
could
be.
I
don't
know
if
there's
room
to
the
side
where
the
parking
is
that
doesn't
obscure
or
conflict
with
pedestrian
movement.
C
That
would
be
good.
I
imagine
that
there
are.
There
would
be
students
or
patrons,
but
student
workers
or
patrons
who
might
want
to
or
even
delivery
people
who
might
be
using
bicycles
to
come
to
the
restaurant.
I
think
it's
important
to
have
places
to
lock
those
lock
those
up
and
have
some
safety
and
that
goes
hand
in
hand
with
proper
lighting.
So
again,
we
need
to
see
the
the
lighting
plan,
both
building
lighting
as
well
as
any
sight
lighting.
I
don't
you
know
the
I
wouldn't
say
the
street
plantings
but
they're.
C
You
know
they're
pretty
scraggly
right
now.
I
don't
know
if
that
falls
in
your
purview,
if
that's
really
a
baltimore
county
domain,
but
it
certainly
would
be
nice
to
put
a
little
bit
of
attention
into
those
spaces
that
are
right
in
the
front
door.
So
I
think
we
have
two
questions
on
the
floor.
One
from
mr
sharma,
I
think
you
remind
me
again
about
your
question,
mr
sharma.
C
Thank
you,
okay
and
then
I
would
just
ask
the
applicant
to
also
respond
to
a
question
that
I
had
about
outdoor
seating
at
the
sidewalk.
If
you
can
address
that
that
comment
by
referring
to
to
your
drawings
or
what
your
intentions
are
for
that
on
the
street
side,.
C
Yeah
the
well
whether
the
occupants
have
increased
the
number
has
increased
over
the
previous
restaurants,
I
believe
was
the
question.
E
C
L
C
L
C
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that.
So
I
think
panel
has
discussed
some
a
number
of
issues
related
to
the
murals,
the
the
lighting,
signage
seating
locations
and
documenting
that
I'd
like
to
see.
If
I
can
ask
a
panel
member
to
make
a
motion
on
this
one-
and
I
will
remind
whoever's
making
the
motion
that
there
are
three
dispositions
as
either
it
can
be
determined
as
either
approved
approved
with
conditions
or
additional
review
with
a
second
meeting
required.
M
Can
I
ask
a
quick
question
as
far
as
for
the
murals
and
everything
so
the
murals
that
are
on
the
front
entrance
and
then
on?
If
you
go
back,
a
couple
slides
are
on
the
fence
on
the
back
side
of
the
building,
so
they're
more
day
of
the
dead-ish
matching
more
of
the
interior
of
our
white
marsh
location
in
downtown
lake.
But
for
this
slide
right
here,
the
back
fence
is
something
like
that
along
the
side
of
the
wall
proved,
or
is
that
too
artsy
and
too
detailed?
M
We
just
want
clarity
before
we
go
back
to
the
drawing
board.
If
we
have
to
represent
something
in
in
front
of
you
all
which
clearly
we're
going
to
have
to
here,
because
everyone's.
B
M
C
Get
off
there
because
we're
we're
kind
of
ready
to
make
a
motion.
So
I
appreciate
okay
requests
for
additional
information,
but
you
know
I
will
you
know
my
panel
okay
little
panel
members
can
and
disagree
with
me
if
they
choose
and
and
whoever's
making.
The
motion
can
can
put
further
words
to
this.
C
I
do
think
the
direction
that
I
heard
and
I'm
echoing
this
is
that
the
the
blue
and
pink
stripes
are
a
little
aggressive
and
too
much
about
signage
that
we
are
looking
for
something
that
has
a
little
bit
more
artistry.
Something
more,
I
would
say
something
more
similar
to
the
to
the
front.
Entryway
was
was
noted
a
number
of
times.
I
don't
I.
C
I
would
say
that
maybe
the
rear
fence
panel
is
a
little
bit
too
much
of
a
a
montage
that
it's
not
a
you
know
a
design
piece,
but
it's
really
a
just
a
a
montage
of
different
images.
So
I
I
would
lean-
and
I
don't
you
know
my
other
panel
members
who
are
making
the
motion-
can
give
a
little
bit
more
direction,
but
that
would
be
how
I
would
how
I
would
suggest
that
direction.
C
For
you
to
study
further
so
with
that,
I'm
going
to
ask
my
one
of
my
colleagues
here
on
the
panel
to
make
a
motion.
D
This
is
joseph
youssef
pharaoh.
I'd
be
happy
to
make
a
motion
cecily.
D
Removes
the
blue
and
pink
colors
on
all
four
locations
and.
L
D
Yeah,
I
I
I
think
from
from
what
is
being
shown,
it's
just
a
such
a
significant
change
that
it's
it's
just
too
powerful,
and
so
so
I
I'll
make
a
motion
to
revise
and
resubmit
removing
the
pink
and
blue
bands
around
the
four
sides
and
bringing
it
more
into
the
the
the
towson.
You
know
fabric.
If
you
will
further.
I
would
like
to
accept
the
department
of
planning's
comments
which
are
dated
dated
november
10th
of
2021.
E
C
Sorry
I
had
clicked
off
that
screen.
I
was
trying
to
look
for
the
date
and
didn't
realize
that
I
was
muted.
Thank
you
joe.
So
I
just
want
to
ask
you
a
question
on
your
motion.
So
did
you
want
to
give
them
any
further
direction
on
the
side
murals?
I
know
you
indicated,
I
think,
reducing
or
eliminating
entirely
the
blue
and
pink.
D
D
D
And
I
would.
I
would
also
move
that
the
applicant
keeps
within
the
maximum
of
three
signs
on
the
building,
which
would
be
consistent
with
the
baltimore
county
zoning
regulations.
C
In
total,
okay,
so
we
might
need
to
to
recap
that,
but
I'd
like
to
see
if
we
could
get
a
second
and
then
we'll
ask
the
county
to
recap
that
before
we
we
vote
on
that.
So
do
we
have
a
second.
A
I
just
think
that
joe,
I
think
the
other
thing
to
just
pick
up
is
the
idea
to
wrap
the
building
the
materiality
of
the
building
around,
at
least
on
the
west
side
of
the
facade,
and
then,
if
I
can
and
jennifer
this
may
be
a
question
for
you:
do
they
have
the
ability
to
come
with
a
couple
options
that
they
can
share,
or
do
they
have
to
come
back
with
one
like?
How
does
that
process
work.
G
A
You
know,
get
an
approval,
I'm
worried
if
they
came
back
with
another
design
and
it's
not
quite
there
they're
going
to
have
to
come
back
again,
but
if
they
have
the
ability
to
come
with
some
options,
it
might
help
them
to
move
forward.
So
just
if
we
can
put
that
in
the
motion
that-
and
the
group
agrees,
it
may
help
to
move
the
process
along
and
get
some
better
feedback
from
them.
C
I
agree
with
that
I'll
just
pause
here
and
just
ask
if
anyone
else
has
any
other
discussion
points
or
modifications
before
we
ask
joe
to
perhaps
recap
that
motion
to
begin.
C
Okay
hearing
none
I'm
going
to
turn
back
to
mr
yousafero
and
and
ask
you
again
to
to
go
through
the
motion
from
the
start.
If
you
would.
D
Okay,
so
so
I'll
make
a
motion
to
request
the
applicant
to
revise
and
resubmit
for
a
second
design
review
panel
meeting
with
the
following
comments:
number
one
on
the
front
facade
remove
the
upper
pink
and
blue
stripe.
D
Number
three:
this
is
matt's
coming
wrap
the
materiality
of
the
building
on
the
west
side.
D
A
Dustin,
I
think,
like
on
the
east,
like
on
the
elevations
on
the
east
side,
like
it's,
it's
much
simpler.
You
have
like
the
black
wall.
I
think
if
you
brought
some
of
the
black
around
on
both
the
side
elevations,
I
think
it
would
help
to
ground
the
building
a
bit
more
it
just
it
feels.
So
you
have
the
front
and
I
think
everyone
likes
the
front,
but
I
think
the
sides
are
really
struggling.
I
think,
if
you
could
you're
not
talking.
C
Matt,
sorry,
I'm
sorry
joe.
If
you
could
continue,
then.
D
Sure
my
my
next
condition
is
requests
the
applicant
to
bring
a
few
design
or
mural
options
to
the
public
meeting
and
we
hope
to
be
in
a
position
to
review
and
allow
the
applicant
to
proceed
and,
and
then
lastly,
I'd
like
to
make
the
department
of
planning
staff
comments
dated
november
10th
of
2021
a
condition
as
well.
G
And
I'm
sorry
cecily.
May
I
interrupt
joe
you
mentioned
in
your
first
motion
about
a
number
of
steins
max.
D
A
condition
excuse
me
would
be
that
the
applicant.
This
shows
the
a
maximum
of
three
signs
on
the
four
facades.
C
C
Thank
you
matt,
so
I'll
ask
for
a
vote.
Now,
all
in
favor
of
the
motion,
please
say:
aye.
E
C
Okay,
so
that
motion
carries,
and
so
that
concludes
the
second
item.
Again,
as
I
mentioned
item
number
three
is
deferred
to
a
later
drp
meeting
and
do
I
have
a
motion
to
adjourn
this
panel
meeting.
C
You
julie
all
in
favor,
hi.